1 00:00:06,667 --> 00:00:10,427 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Vine 2 00:00:10,707 --> 00:00:11,747 Speaker 1: from Newstalks EDB. 3 00:00:13,027 --> 00:00:17,067 Speaker 2: The Crusaders have moved to second on the Super Rugby 4 00:00:17,147 --> 00:00:20,227 Speaker 2: table with a fifty five thirty three win over the 5 00:00:20,227 --> 00:00:23,427 Speaker 2: Western Force in Christ. Here is yesterday, on another beautiful day, 6 00:00:23,587 --> 00:00:27,467 Speaker 2: they ran a nine christ to four. Winger Macha Springer 7 00:00:27,987 --> 00:00:32,307 Speaker 2: scored a record equalling five of those tries in Or Well. 8 00:00:32,227 --> 00:00:35,027 Speaker 3: Jordan, he'll put the years back. He gets it out 9 00:00:35,067 --> 00:00:38,747 Speaker 3: to Maccastragger and it's finds up to the Marco man 10 00:00:39,227 --> 00:00:42,387 Speaker 3: kicks through, bounce up all me interesting, goes over in 11 00:00:42,587 --> 00:00:46,387 Speaker 3: Or and lands in the lap of a Crusader who 12 00:00:46,427 --> 00:00:50,587 Speaker 3: falls over the line. It's Macchus Spragger again. Oh kinda 13 00:00:50,667 --> 00:00:53,627 Speaker 3: holds the pass for Jordan. He eventually sent to White 14 00:00:53,707 --> 00:00:58,347 Speaker 3: to Maccus Bragger and now the Cregger's got a hat trick. Jordan, 15 00:00:58,627 --> 00:01:02,667 Speaker 3: lovely Harborbridge pass Tomaccas Spragger dances down the touch on. 16 00:01:02,867 --> 00:01:09,147 Speaker 3: Oh Becca Stragger, that is his beast in the afternoon. 17 00:01:09,347 --> 00:01:12,067 Speaker 3: Can't three up Springer? Who wants five? He might get 18 00:01:12,067 --> 00:01:19,307 Speaker 3: a chancellor Macca Sprager. Oh wow, five of the best 19 00:01:20,507 --> 00:01:22,067 Speaker 3: for young Backus Springer. 20 00:01:22,467 --> 00:01:24,467 Speaker 2: High excitement in the crowd and in the cold try 21 00:01:24,507 --> 00:01:27,347 Speaker 2: box too, brilliantly called by Nick Gully. There yesterday, Macca 22 00:01:27,427 --> 00:01:31,347 Speaker 2: Springer just the second man in Super Rugby history to 23 00:01:31,387 --> 00:01:33,147 Speaker 2: score five tries in the game. The other was the 24 00:01:33,227 --> 00:01:35,987 Speaker 2: late Sean wan Nui, who did so for the Chiefs 25 00:01:36,027 --> 00:01:38,747 Speaker 2: against the war A Tars back in two thousand and one. 26 00:01:39,027 --> 00:01:41,787 Speaker 2: Macca Springer is with us on weekends for congrats mate. 27 00:01:41,787 --> 00:01:44,467 Speaker 2: When was the last time you scored five tries in 28 00:01:44,507 --> 00:01:46,147 Speaker 2: one game? Was it back at school or something? 29 00:01:47,667 --> 00:01:50,947 Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I've never scored five tries in the game, 30 00:01:51,467 --> 00:01:53,787 Speaker 4: so the first from me, that's pretty special. 31 00:01:54,187 --> 00:01:56,787 Speaker 2: It's well something you've given the overnight tests. Now are 32 00:01:56,827 --> 00:01:59,347 Speaker 2: you woken up? I mean, how do you reflect on 33 00:01:59,347 --> 00:02:01,027 Speaker 2: on what played out yesterday, not just for you but 34 00:02:01,107 --> 00:02:02,227 Speaker 2: for the Crusaders as well. 35 00:02:05,147 --> 00:02:07,267 Speaker 4: I still don't really think it's through. I don't think 36 00:02:07,307 --> 00:02:10,107 Speaker 4: it's really kicked in on you know, a few messages 37 00:02:10,147 --> 00:02:14,267 Speaker 4: coming in, but it's pretty special for me and obviously 38 00:02:14,627 --> 00:02:17,907 Speaker 4: Bick from the teams did a lot to help me 39 00:02:17,907 --> 00:02:20,907 Speaker 4: get those five pretty much took the credit to them. 40 00:02:20,947 --> 00:02:24,707 Speaker 4: But yeah, it's a tough game. Leading in thirty three points, 41 00:02:24,707 --> 00:02:26,707 Speaker 4: it's probably not ideal for a super team, so we 42 00:02:26,787 --> 00:02:28,387 Speaker 4: could feel the points, but we're going to be able 43 00:02:28,427 --> 00:02:29,667 Speaker 4: to defend it as well. 44 00:02:30,187 --> 00:02:31,867 Speaker 2: A couple of year tries were on the end of 45 00:02:31,907 --> 00:02:34,627 Speaker 2: back line moves, but you also went hunting for work 46 00:02:34,627 --> 00:02:36,547 Speaker 2: as well. I want to talk about your kick and 47 00:02:36,587 --> 00:02:38,667 Speaker 2: chase in the moment, but the second try good evidence 48 00:02:38,667 --> 00:02:41,027 Speaker 2: of that you like sort of you know, popping up 49 00:02:41,067 --> 00:02:43,907 Speaker 2: in different places rather than just hanging out on the fringes. 50 00:02:45,267 --> 00:02:47,067 Speaker 4: Yeah. I think it's a bit of a work on 51 00:02:47,147 --> 00:02:49,827 Speaker 4: from my season last year. Just getting a bit more 52 00:02:49,867 --> 00:02:52,787 Speaker 4: involved in getting the hands on the ball. So you 53 00:02:52,827 --> 00:02:54,547 Speaker 4: watched the news game and see how much it gets 54 00:02:54,547 --> 00:02:57,067 Speaker 4: involved and you touched he gets took a little bit 55 00:02:57,067 --> 00:02:59,267 Speaker 4: out of there and just just wanted to get as 56 00:02:59,307 --> 00:03:01,187 Speaker 4: involved as much as I could. And I guess it 57 00:03:01,227 --> 00:03:01,867 Speaker 4: showed as well. 58 00:03:02,227 --> 00:03:03,907 Speaker 2: And the fourth one that the kick and chase down 59 00:03:03,947 --> 00:03:05,787 Speaker 2: the left wing side, you must have enjoyed that. I 60 00:03:05,827 --> 00:03:08,827 Speaker 2: think you said afterwards a Tom Marshall trick from back 61 00:03:08,867 --> 00:03:09,427 Speaker 2: in Tasman. 62 00:03:10,587 --> 00:03:13,707 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a Tom Marshall's special when he started coaching, 63 00:03:13,747 --> 00:03:16,787 Speaker 4: you told me. He actually told me that, so we'll 64 00:03:16,827 --> 00:03:17,747 Speaker 4: credit to him for that. 65 00:03:18,107 --> 00:03:20,107 Speaker 2: What do you what sort of pictures are you seeing 66 00:03:20,107 --> 00:03:21,707 Speaker 2: when you you know, because you get it. I think 67 00:03:21,747 --> 00:03:24,747 Speaker 2: on about halfway, Uh you know what, what what is 68 00:03:24,787 --> 00:03:26,707 Speaker 2: going through your mind in the in the split second 69 00:03:26,747 --> 00:03:29,107 Speaker 2: that you have to make your decision about what. 70 00:03:29,027 --> 00:03:32,947 Speaker 4: You do next. I think it's just where the defense is, 71 00:03:33,147 --> 00:03:35,307 Speaker 4: how fast they're coming up, and so I can get 72 00:03:35,307 --> 00:03:37,747 Speaker 4: to that outside and put on the foot, then we'll 73 00:03:37,827 --> 00:03:40,347 Speaker 4: take it. But it's a kind of trying to do 74 00:03:40,347 --> 00:03:42,667 Speaker 4: it at training, so it comes as an instinct. 75 00:03:42,827 --> 00:03:44,907 Speaker 2: When he did to a game and you made on 76 00:03:44,907 --> 00:03:47,427 Speaker 2: the other wing, seev Reese, he got a hat trick 77 00:03:47,467 --> 00:03:49,507 Speaker 2: as well. Now just one short of the all time 78 00:03:49,587 --> 00:03:52,747 Speaker 2: Super Rugby try scoring record, he's got sixty four. Now 79 00:03:53,067 --> 00:03:55,187 Speaker 2: how much of a helpers has he been to you 80 00:03:55,267 --> 00:03:56,707 Speaker 2: as you developed your career. 81 00:03:58,347 --> 00:04:01,827 Speaker 4: Yeah, he's a special player. He's obviously got I'll beck 82 00:04:01,867 --> 00:04:05,427 Speaker 4: to have been a huge part of my career. Obviously 83 00:04:05,627 --> 00:04:08,227 Speaker 4: a few years with them, learn a lot a lot 84 00:04:08,907 --> 00:04:11,267 Speaker 4: from both of them, so you know, they are pretty 85 00:04:11,267 --> 00:04:13,787 Speaker 4: extraordinary players. And to be able to rub shoulders with 86 00:04:13,827 --> 00:04:18,107 Speaker 4: them every day, every week and even in the games 87 00:04:18,347 --> 00:04:20,547 Speaker 4: was awesome. So you have to take a lot from them, 88 00:04:20,947 --> 00:04:23,267 Speaker 4: but to keep picking their brains with a bit. 89 00:04:23,147 --> 00:04:25,867 Speaker 2: More so, Yeah, as you say, see a recent Will Jordan, 90 00:04:26,187 --> 00:04:28,387 Speaker 2: it's not a bad bad couple of players to be 91 00:04:28,427 --> 00:04:31,067 Speaker 2: part of a back three with. Are you still able though? 92 00:04:31,107 --> 00:04:34,147 Speaker 2: Do you feel able to contribute your voice during the 93 00:04:34,467 --> 00:04:37,187 Speaker 2: back three conversations as a game is playing out. 94 00:04:38,707 --> 00:04:42,827 Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely. They're always asking questions what I'm saying, What 95 00:04:42,987 --> 00:04:45,587 Speaker 4: are saying? They're telling me feedback, and I'm giving them 96 00:04:45,587 --> 00:04:47,707 Speaker 4: a bit of feedback too, so I always feel comfortable 97 00:04:47,787 --> 00:04:49,107 Speaker 4: talk to them. It's a funny thing. 98 00:04:49,347 --> 00:04:51,667 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's some pretty stuff competition for the outside back 99 00:04:51,707 --> 00:04:54,187 Speaker 2: spots and the side even to get on the bench. 100 00:04:54,827 --> 00:04:57,347 Speaker 2: Do you feel like if you've given an opportunity you 101 00:04:57,467 --> 00:04:58,947 Speaker 2: really have to take it. 102 00:05:00,347 --> 00:05:03,627 Speaker 4: Yeah. This season just definitely there. You know, she'd like 103 00:05:03,707 --> 00:05:05,667 Speaker 4: to be around this playing in our perform and he 104 00:05:05,827 --> 00:05:08,227 Speaker 4: runs healthy at the moment, so as soon as you 105 00:05:08,227 --> 00:05:10,507 Speaker 4: get the opportunity to play, you've got to take with 106 00:05:10,587 --> 00:05:14,387 Speaker 4: their hands. And yeah, it's good for the team obviously. 107 00:05:14,427 --> 00:05:17,827 Speaker 4: It's real healthy, actually pushed heart of each each game. 108 00:05:17,947 --> 00:05:20,907 Speaker 2: So it'd be pretty hard to drop you out to 109 00:05:20,907 --> 00:05:24,387 Speaker 2: scoring five tries on him, I imagine, But I guess 110 00:05:24,227 --> 00:05:26,507 Speaker 2: it's just it's just one part of it. You guys 111 00:05:26,507 --> 00:05:29,067 Speaker 2: are only your head by what twenty points to eighteen 112 00:05:29,107 --> 00:05:31,627 Speaker 2: at halftime? Why don't you think you could quite shake 113 00:05:31,667 --> 00:05:33,147 Speaker 2: them off in the first half. 114 00:05:35,427 --> 00:05:37,827 Speaker 4: I think a little bit of discipline probably didn't help 115 00:05:37,867 --> 00:05:40,107 Speaker 4: getting them in and are in the field and they 116 00:05:40,107 --> 00:05:43,107 Speaker 4: were just getting points from that. So we're just our 117 00:05:43,107 --> 00:05:46,147 Speaker 4: discipline in our own half, but probably just a little 118 00:05:46,147 --> 00:05:48,587 Speaker 4: bit of connection stuff as well wasn't really clicking until 119 00:05:48,627 --> 00:05:49,347 Speaker 4: that second half. 120 00:05:50,507 --> 00:05:52,947 Speaker 2: And if we look back to last year after Round five, 121 00:05:53,067 --> 00:05:56,547 Speaker 2: last year the Crusaders were zero and five. Without wanting 122 00:05:56,547 --> 00:05:58,787 Speaker 2: to dwell on that at all, what other big differences 123 00:05:58,827 --> 00:05:59,587 Speaker 2: mac of this season? 124 00:06:02,267 --> 00:06:05,067 Speaker 4: I think I just I think the culture has obviously 125 00:06:05,107 --> 00:06:07,427 Speaker 4: grind last year. We've taken a lot out of the 126 00:06:07,467 --> 00:06:11,747 Speaker 4: season last year and you get to learn from that, 127 00:06:11,787 --> 00:06:14,147 Speaker 4: and you gotta learn quick. With the super rug bes every 128 00:06:14,187 --> 00:06:17,227 Speaker 4: teams is a threat now, so you come up to 129 00:06:17,267 --> 00:06:20,387 Speaker 4: each game and I think, yeah, you reflect on what 130 00:06:20,507 --> 00:06:23,547 Speaker 4: happened last year. I think it's a big, big improvement 131 00:06:23,627 --> 00:06:24,787 Speaker 4: with the boys. 132 00:06:24,587 --> 00:06:27,147 Speaker 2: Certainly, and beardy afternoon in christ Church, how much do 133 00:06:27,227 --> 00:06:29,667 Speaker 2: you enjoy playing with a bit of sun on your back? 134 00:06:30,747 --> 00:06:34,667 Speaker 4: Oh it's beautiful? Any too hot for christ towards that thing? Oh? 135 00:06:34,707 --> 00:06:36,427 Speaker 2: You're from Nelson. May you be used to, wouldn't you? 136 00:06:37,347 --> 00:06:42,907 Speaker 4: Yeah, you've been Christians for a couple of months. You climatize, and. 137 00:06:43,267 --> 00:06:45,667 Speaker 2: I mean, obviously that would have been nice. But the 138 00:06:45,747 --> 00:06:48,427 Speaker 2: new christ Church Stadium well and truly taking shape. You 139 00:06:48,867 --> 00:06:50,907 Speaker 2: you drive down, you know, down the middle of town 140 00:06:50,947 --> 00:06:52,667 Speaker 2: and you see it there rising up. Now have you 141 00:06:52,667 --> 00:06:54,707 Speaker 2: thought about what it might be like to play in 142 00:06:54,747 --> 00:06:56,067 Speaker 2: that brand new venue next year? 143 00:06:57,627 --> 00:06:59,787 Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely had thoughts about it. It would be pretty spec 144 00:07:00,267 --> 00:07:03,867 Speaker 4: once it's open to see it, and obviously hope to 145 00:07:03,907 --> 00:07:06,307 Speaker 4: play in it as well. So now pretty excited for 146 00:07:06,427 --> 00:07:08,147 Speaker 4: that to open up. And I think it'd be good 147 00:07:08,147 --> 00:07:10,867 Speaker 4: for the community and enter the team as well. 148 00:07:11,227 --> 00:07:13,147 Speaker 2: And what happens when you score five tries? Did you 149 00:07:13,187 --> 00:07:13,627 Speaker 2: have to shout? 150 00:07:13,667 --> 00:07:20,027 Speaker 4: Last nights going round there to shout? I think two 151 00:07:20,027 --> 00:07:21,507 Speaker 4: boys told me I was a bit greedy as well, 152 00:07:21,587 --> 00:07:24,467 Speaker 4: So it be fine when I come in on Monday. 153 00:07:24,547 --> 00:07:27,507 Speaker 4: I don't know what they will be, but I'll be paying. 154 00:07:27,227 --> 00:07:30,867 Speaker 2: Something, which I'm just trying to think about. Which try 155 00:07:30,947 --> 00:07:33,307 Speaker 2: you could be accused of being greedy? And maybe maybe 156 00:07:33,347 --> 00:07:35,787 Speaker 2: the last one, maybe the last one I don't. 157 00:07:35,667 --> 00:07:38,387 Speaker 4: Know, I think was will was inside me on that 158 00:07:39,387 --> 00:07:40,907 Speaker 4: when I did the cover down the sideline, so he 159 00:07:40,947 --> 00:07:42,667 Speaker 4: wasn't too happy after he gave me that first one 160 00:07:42,707 --> 00:07:44,987 Speaker 4: as well. So he sadly won one back. 161 00:07:45,867 --> 00:07:47,867 Speaker 2: Well did know? I think? Well he got the last one, 162 00:07:47,867 --> 00:07:49,387 Speaker 2: didn't he. So you get to if you get to 163 00:07:49,667 --> 00:07:52,147 Speaker 2: eight tries and Will Jordan hasn't got one, he probably 164 00:07:52,147 --> 00:07:56,027 Speaker 2: would get a bit grumpy on image. Good to see 165 00:07:56,067 --> 00:07:57,467 Speaker 2: him get one of the end though. He made hard 166 00:07:57,467 --> 00:07:58,707 Speaker 2: work at out one of the end though didn't he 167 00:07:58,787 --> 00:08:00,627 Speaker 2: was sort of crawling on his hands and knees to 168 00:08:00,667 --> 00:08:01,027 Speaker 2: get over. 169 00:08:02,227 --> 00:08:05,387 Speaker 4: Yeah, we did have a laugh afterwards. Found it look 170 00:08:05,467 --> 00:08:09,387 Speaker 4: like he found a bit tough to stand up find 171 00:08:09,427 --> 00:08:10,587 Speaker 4: the way to get there he does. 172 00:08:10,827 --> 00:08:12,827 Speaker 2: It was most Unwill Jordan like, but he did get 173 00:08:12,827 --> 00:08:15,627 Speaker 2: his try, Amca. Was terrific to watch last you know, 174 00:08:15,747 --> 00:08:19,307 Speaker 2: watch yesterday you know the outside backs running with such 175 00:08:19,587 --> 00:08:22,907 Speaker 2: freedom and scoring tries. Mate, Well done, big big week 176 00:08:22,947 --> 00:08:24,667 Speaker 2: this week. As as you look forward to the Blues 177 00:08:24,667 --> 00:08:27,027 Speaker 2: of Eaton Park this coming Saturday, you'll know how to 178 00:08:27,067 --> 00:08:28,307 Speaker 2: get back on the tools on Monday. 179 00:08:29,547 --> 00:08:32,627 Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely back to the new week. Was he blues? 180 00:08:33,267 --> 00:08:36,187 Speaker 4: Pretty bit of hate watching the game last nighting gets 181 00:08:36,187 --> 00:08:38,707 Speaker 4: a chase a pretty tight game, so they'll be rearing 182 00:08:38,747 --> 00:08:38,987 Speaker 4: to go. 183 00:08:39,627 --> 00:08:41,627 Speaker 2: Congrats again, Macca, thanks for taking the time for a 184 00:08:41,707 --> 00:08:44,067 Speaker 2: chat mate, No, thank you very much, thanks Maca Maca 185 00:08:44,107 --> 00:08:47,587 Speaker 2: Springer there scorer or five tries yesterday. That's a but 186 00:08:47,747 --> 00:08:52,507 Speaker 2: rough being told he was greedy. I it's the fifth try. Yeah, 187 00:08:52,587 --> 00:08:53,827 Speaker 2: perhaps he could have passed it. 188 00:08:53,867 --> 00:08:54,267 Speaker 4: I don't know. 189 00:08:54,747 --> 00:08:57,667 Speaker 2: Will Jordan gave him the first one, didn't he. If 190 00:08:57,707 --> 00:08:59,867 Speaker 2: you've seen these tries, there's a line up out to 191 00:08:59,907 --> 00:09:02,947 Speaker 2: the left and Will Jordan probably could have gone on 192 00:09:03,027 --> 00:09:05,907 Speaker 2: himself at one more passcase Maca Spring of the try, 193 00:09:05,907 --> 00:09:07,867 Speaker 2: he probably thought, well, I'll give the young killer chance. 194 00:09:08,187 --> 00:09:10,387 Speaker 2: It was his first game of the season. Two Machis 195 00:09:10,387 --> 00:09:14,747 Speaker 2: Spring hasn't played up until yesterday. Five tries in one game. 196 00:09:14,787 --> 00:09:18,067 Speaker 2: Talk about seizing your opportunities. Ian Will Jordan right at 197 00:09:18,107 --> 00:09:21,587 Speaker 2: the end, just kidding. A try was kind of ankle tapped, 198 00:09:21,627 --> 00:09:25,107 Speaker 2: got up, went again, crawled towards the line, reach out, scored, 199 00:09:25,107 --> 00:09:28,627 Speaker 2: He almost scored his try and installments really in slow motion. 200 00:09:29,387 --> 00:09:32,587 Speaker 1: For more from Weekend Sport with Jason Fine, listen live 201 00:09:32,667 --> 00:09:35,947 Speaker 1: to News Talk set B weekends from midday, or follow 202 00:09:35,987 --> 00:09:37,627 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio.