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Speaker 1: And so the Holidays Act will be changed. It'll be

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Speaker 1: simpler to implement. Apparently pro write a sick leave driven

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Speaker 1: by ours, not work days, and ours based a cruel

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Speaker 1: for and you will leave and if you're on acc

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Speaker 1: you don't get annually building up anymore. Bred Jacobs is

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Speaker 1: a coffee club CEO franchise Association chair and as with

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Speaker 1: us bread morning to.

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Speaker 2: You money, Mike, you like what you heard? Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: we do, Yes, we do. Look. I think everyone has

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Speaker 2: probably said it in the last twenty four hours, but

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Speaker 2: this has been a problem for as long as I've

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Speaker 2: ever been in business in New Zealand twenty odd years.

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Speaker 2: It can't come soon enough.

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Speaker 1: And does it look like it fixes it?

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Speaker 2: I think at first glance, yes, everything I've read I like.

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Speaker 2: I do have one concern. I noticed that the official

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Speaker 2: Beehive press release didn't talk about the calculation of ordinary

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Speaker 2: working days and this is around, you know, sort of

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Speaker 2: public holidays and an alternative day and loo, and none

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Speaker 2: of the media coverage yesterday seemed to cover it. I

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Speaker 2: went digging last night and I eventually found two sentences

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Speaker 2: in an eleven page document from MB and I still

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Speaker 2: found it very, very, A lot of gray area. So

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Speaker 2: I'm really hoping that one doesn't get missed because that's

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Speaker 2: a significant problem in our business with lots of cafes

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Speaker 2: trading on public holidays and that what is a normal

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Speaker 2: working day. It's very hard to calculate.

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Speaker 1: We'll follow it up and get an answer. The fact

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Speaker 1: that hasn't been done before. When you talk about twenty years,

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Speaker 1: why has no one done it?

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Speaker 2: Good question? Good question, As I say, as long as

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Speaker 2: I've ever been in business in New Zealand, it's been

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Speaker 2: talked about as a problem, and it concerns me that

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Speaker 2: it's still three years away. I hear people referring in

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Speaker 2: the last day or so to twenty four months, two years.

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Speaker 2: The reality is this bill doesn't even pass until sometime

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Speaker 2: next year, and then another twenty four months from there.

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Speaker 2: So we're looking at the best part of three years

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Speaker 2: really before we actually.

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Speaker 1: Exactly and even longer for teachers. Is it the tech thing?

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Speaker 1: Everyone's explaining the tech we're just so antiquated and old

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Speaker 1: that whatever adjustments just take.

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Speaker 2: For River I heard you say that before, and I

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Speaker 2: probably can't quite agree on that. I just don't believe

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Speaker 2: that the resources of the massive payroll providers out there

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Speaker 2: couldn't build these systems much faster if if they really

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Speaker 2: wanted to. Perhaps the government systems can't, and maybe they're

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Speaker 2: the handbrake, but I would have thought it's be the

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Speaker 2: private businesses, you know, the zeros and the smartlies and

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Speaker 2: those kind of people. They could build this quicker if

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Speaker 2: they needed to and wanted to.

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Speaker 1: Good insight. Bread appreciate it very much. Brad Jacob's Coffee

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