1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:02,520 Speaker 1: The information provided in this program is of a general 2 00:00:02,600 --> 00:00:05,320 Speaker 1: nature and is not intended to be personalized financial advice. 3 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:07,760 Speaker 1: We encourage you to seek appropriate advice from a qualified 4 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 1: professional to suit your individual circumstances. I'm inside the New 5 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 1: Zealand Stock Exchange where a gold mining company just went public. 6 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 1: Could this mark our economies minerals moment? 7 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:23,239 Speaker 2: It could well be. 8 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 3: You know, I think mccraze started off as an internex 9 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 3: listed company. 10 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:28,960 Speaker 4: You know, if mining's going to grow a little bit more, 11 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:32,479 Speaker 4: help with the growth of the economy, helped with jobs 12 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:36,159 Speaker 4: and be respectful to the environment, then fantastic. 13 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 1: We were one of the first to show you New 14 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 1: Zealand's biggest gold discovery in forty years, tugged amid the 15 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 1: hills in central Otago's Bend Togo station, an hour out 16 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 1: of Queenstown. The Australian listed company exploring it, Santana Minerals, 17 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 1: expects to earn up to four billion dollars over a 18 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:06,320 Speaker 1: ten year period once it starts open pit and underground 19 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 1: mining here. Its annual production would be second only to 20 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:14,479 Speaker 1: the nearby McCrae's mine that's owned by Oceana Gold, which 21 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 1: delisted from our market in twenty sixteen, Santana's CEO revealed 22 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 1: in our first interview that it was considering going public. 23 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 1: Surely an ended x listening at some stake, Damien A. 24 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:29,840 Speaker 3: Look, we're certainly are giving it serious consideration, the pros 25 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:32,679 Speaker 3: and cons up doing that and working through that. Obviously, 26 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 3: our primary listing is still remains ax and what the 27 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:38,400 Speaker 3: future holds will see. 28 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 1: That's what's led us here to the Index Capital Market Center, 29 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:46,120 Speaker 1: where Santana is officially listing on the New Zealand Stock Exchange. 30 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 1: I'm taking you inside the invite only event. Santana will 31 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 1: be the second gold offering to investors. So Mike Thiss 32 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 1: mark our mineral's moment. 33 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 4: Well, it's not the minerals moment. We've had minerals moments before. 34 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 4: But to see this come back into New Zealand, I 35 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 4: think it adds a dimension to our market, which you 36 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 4: know we could probably do a little bit more of. 37 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 4: You really want a market to be representing your economy 38 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 4: in the proportion of GDP, and you know, if mining 39 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:20,080 Speaker 4: is going to grow a little bit more, help with 40 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:23,920 Speaker 4: the growth of the economy, help with jobs, and be 41 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 4: respectful to the environment, then fantastic. 42 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:28,079 Speaker 1: As as a sign of more listenings to come. 43 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 4: Mark, Well, we're always hoping, aren't we. 44 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 1: The only other gold related stock on the insiet X 45 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 1: is New Talisman Gold Mines, which operates the historical mine 46 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 1: in the Corimandel's Karanga Hockey Gorge. Santana is now dual 47 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 1: listed on the ASEX and insiet X. It's a foreign 48 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 1: exempt issue here, meaning its primary market is still Australia. 49 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:52,920 Speaker 1: What it's not exempt from, though, are our mining rules 50 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 1: and regulations. It still needs a full resource consent and 51 00:02:56,800 --> 00:03:00,800 Speaker 1: permit it plans to apply later this year. It also 52 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 1: has to pay royalties to the government, which is currently 53 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 1: set at two percent of revenue or ten percent of 54 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:09,800 Speaker 1: accounting profits, whichever is higher. 55 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 2: We will pay our legal rulesies that we do to pay. 56 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 1: You see today that if the project all works, our 57 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:18,960 Speaker 1: fingers crossed that nine hundred million dollars would go back 58 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:22,360 Speaker 1: to Central government and royalties, but also in corporate tax. 59 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 1: Do you feel like that's enough of the four billion 60 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 1: you're going to earn, well. 61 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 3: Four billion's revenue, so we've also got costs to come 62 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 3: off on that. So yeah, look, it's about what it's 63 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 3: about twenty percent, twenty five percent of the in ground value. 64 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 3: It takes a lot of cost to get that out 65 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 3: of the ground, and of course our shareholders will be 66 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 3: stumping up the capital to get that out, so they're 67 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 3: putting their capital and money at. 68 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 2: Risk, So it's only fear that they get a return. 69 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 3: And look all in all, as I've been saying on 70 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 3: my presentations of the in value in ground valley of 71 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 3: the goal, this potentially a sixty percent of that value 72 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 3: will remain in New Zealant or more because of our 73 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 3: local spending as well. 74 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 1: Whylist, you were already listed on the Australian Stock Exchange. 75 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 3: Look, certainly technology has allowed the ability to trade in 76 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 3: the ASEX very easily from virtually anywhere in the world. 77 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 3: But I think it's important to provide that ability to 78 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 3: invest in New Zealand dollars in a New Zealand's listed 79 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 3: stock and ultimately potentially when we do start paying dividends, 80 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 3: it's all in the same currency and whatever tax credits 81 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 3: are provided they come through on that same currency. 82 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:27,600 Speaker 2: But it's also about letting anyone who thinks I want 83 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 2: to part dissipate. 84 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 3: But also you know, there's no doubt a bit of 85 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:34,280 Speaker 3: promotion in Bolt and it puts us out there and 86 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 3: let's see everyone know what we're doing, so that ultimately 87 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:39,159 Speaker 3: when we do get to keep mining, we're doing so 88 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 3: for the benefit of not only ourselves as shareholders. 89 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 2: But the community. 90 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:44,240 Speaker 1: I was going to ask you about that cheekily, is 91 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 1: any of this or all of this and means to 92 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:49,720 Speaker 1: garner public support before you guys at out full resource 93 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:51,040 Speaker 1: consent and full mining them. 94 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 3: Well, look, any sort of promotion is obviously putting us 95 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 3: out there, but it's also making sure that we're how 96 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:02,840 Speaker 3: accountable to what we say. So I think if I 97 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:06,919 Speaker 3: say we're going to be a responsible minor that will 98 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 3: produce the goal, but do so in the way that 99 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 3: there's no net loss or potentially even a net benefit 100 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 3: to the environment, that's what we're going to do. 101 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 2: So I think it's just been transparent and open. 102 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 1: Is this New Zealand's minerals moment Damien. 103 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:21,839 Speaker 2: To well be? 104 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:22,159 Speaker 1: You know? 105 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 3: I think mccraze started off as an inject listed company. 106 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 3: Obviously now it's fully delisted out of Australasia as to 107 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 3: gold into two six. 108 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 2: But yeah, there's other discoveries out. 109 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 3: There, mainly by ax junior companies that could well do 110 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:41,479 Speaker 3: look to the future to see what we do and 111 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 3: join the the insedics here. 112 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 2: And Golden Opportunity, one could say, absolutely. 113 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 3: Lots of puns, meaningful puns. 114 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:53,600 Speaker 1: Thank you so much your time, dave In, and congratulations again. 115 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 1: Time will tell to see if it pays off, but 116 00:05:57,760 --> 00:05:59,839 Speaker 1: at least the exchange is back in action. 117 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 2: They unstans by sun Stars, Why time by doun by 118 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 2: stop sis