1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,720 Speaker 1: And the Commerce Commission has rejected food Stuff's proposal to 2 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:06,240 Speaker 1: merge their North and South Island entities. The report sites 3 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:09,720 Speaker 1: concerns around market competition and the effect on suppliers, reducing 4 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:12,800 Speaker 1: major buyers in New Zealand from three to two. Chris Quinn, 5 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 1: there's food Stuffs North Island CEO and is with a 6 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:19,919 Speaker 1: skelder jack as it stands, Chris, do the North and 7 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 1: South Island food Stuff's arms compete not at all. 8 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 2: So they are, you know, we are entirely separate from 9 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 2: a geographic point of view. You know, it's one of 10 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 2: the wonders of New Zealand that the North and South 11 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:37,280 Speaker 2: Island geography is quite separated, and we have you know, 12 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 2: the merger proposal was essentially going to see the same 13 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:42,519 Speaker 2: stores and the same communities owned by the same families 14 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:48,599 Speaker 2: and bringing together the support operation for the retail stores, 15 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 2: which is out of sight of customers and part of 16 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 2: retail competition, bring it together in a more efficient way 17 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 2: so that we could keep delivering value on innovation for 18 00:00:57,240 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 2: New Zealanders. That's the disappointing thing about today's outcome. 19 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, what do you think of the ComCom decision? Why 20 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 1: do they make it. 21 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 2: Look, we're not clear on the why yet. We've got 22 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:10,760 Speaker 2: a press release we've seen today. We have been told 23 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:13,679 Speaker 2: that we will get the full explanation of the decision 24 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:16,760 Speaker 2: by the twenty third of October. You know, we'll do 25 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 2: the right thing, which is to wait for that and 26 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 2: read it through and properly understand it and understand the 27 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 2: points that are in there. But at this point in time, 28 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:28,479 Speaker 2: we don't understand why we have failed to be successful, 29 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 2: which with what is a pretty known legal test for 30 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:32,120 Speaker 2: these events. 31 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I mean the question is whether or 32 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 1: not going from what the ComCom says as effectively three buyers, 33 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 1: but having those two separate entities become one will mean 34 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:47,120 Speaker 1: that from a suppliers perspective, you as the buyer have 35 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 1: more power or less power than before. And in the 36 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 1: eyes of some going from two to one will mean 37 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 1: you have more more power when negotiating with supplies. 38 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 2: Right. Yeah, Look, I think the acquisition market argument that 39 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 2: it was mentioned in the press release, and we'll wait 40 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 2: for the detail, but essentially what we have today is 41 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:09,360 Speaker 2: an organization that buys in the North Island and another 42 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 2: organization that buys on the south on it in terms 43 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 2: of the large grocery retailers that sits alongside our competition 44 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:19,639 Speaker 2: war Works Australia, and what we would have after a 45 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:22,240 Speaker 2: merger is two players in the North and the South 46 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:25,920 Speaker 2: Island each. So our view was it doesn't change the 47 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 2: number of channels available to supplies. For one hundred and 48 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:31,799 Speaker 2: two years, we've been really proud to work alongside a 49 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 2: hip Hop and New Zealand Supplies and bring them to 50 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:36,799 Speaker 2: life through one store at a time, or ten stores, 51 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 2: or one region or one of our through retail manners. 52 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 2: So all of those things we think we're part of 53 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:45,360 Speaker 2: the reason why we saw benefit in this for our 54 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 2: supplier partners. 55 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:47,360 Speaker 1: Is this going to the High Court? 56 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 2: Well, we're going to wait until we get the determination 57 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 2: document from the Commission. We'll properly read it and consider 58 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 2: it open. But based on what we know today, we 59 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 2: can't see why we've failed the legal test here and 60 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 2: if there isn't anything new from the process we've been 61 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:07,360 Speaker 2: in for the last ten months, we would likely appeal this. 62 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:09,799 Speaker 1: Thanks Chris, appreciate it. That is Chris Quinn. 63 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:13,639 Speaker 2: For more from Hither Dupless Allen Drive listen live to 64 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 2: news talks. 65 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 1: It'd be from four pm weekdays or follow the podcast 66 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 1: on iHeartRadio