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Speaker 1: Didn't end well for Janet Dixon. So she's the real

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Speaker 1: estate agent who refused to do the seed as it's called,

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Speaker 1: which is the Maria Tetility treaty. Course, all real estate

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Speaker 1: agents must do as of twenty twenty three when they

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Speaker 1: made it compulsory. This was fought in the courts, and

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Speaker 1: yesterday the judge r all the real estate agent's authority were

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Speaker 1: within their rights to make it compulsory. So what now

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Speaker 1: Janet Dixon's will this? Good morning?

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Speaker 2: Hey mornning mate.

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Speaker 1: I saw I saw this coming, not because you're not right,

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Speaker 1: but because courts don't necessarily deal with common sense. They

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Speaker 1: deal with the sort of the rule of law. Are

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Speaker 1: you Are you disappointed?

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Speaker 2: Correct? Yeah? No, no, No, I mean personally I had no

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Speaker 2: hopes because I just didn't believe that anyone would have

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Speaker 2: the courage to front up. Yeah two bigger too, bigger,

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Speaker 2: two bigger kickback to come exactly because of the issues.

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Speaker 1: Has it been worth the fight in your view?

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Speaker 2: Oh gosh, yes, because we are fired up for step two.

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Speaker 2: Just to clarify the As a real estate salesperson, I've

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Speaker 2: been forced to try to Mari Tikkanga and the Treaty

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Speaker 2: of tonguey enforced compulsory education. I said, no, they will

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Speaker 2: take my license. The thing is, the result says that

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Speaker 2: the court believes that it is okay actually to force

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Speaker 2: the entire country, in all work to do the same thing,

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Speaker 2: to go through this kind of brainwashing with no relation

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Speaker 2: whatsoever to your work. And I have been brought up

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Speaker 2: amongst Maori. I've taught in a Mari school, et cetera,

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Speaker 2: et cetera. I don't need it.

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Speaker 1: No, And for practical purposes, it doesn't make any difference

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Speaker 1: in selling a house, or having an open home, or

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Speaker 1: going to tender any of that. Does it or does it?

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Speaker 2: It has no reflection on our work none where to

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Speaker 2: do with contract law and disclosure and you know, buying

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Speaker 2: and selling properties.

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Speaker 1: Yep. What I find interesting is that I thought real

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Speaker 1: estate agent, so this was the association that had, according

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Speaker 1: to the court, the right to impose this particular law

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Speaker 1: and make it compulsory. I thought you guys were self employed.

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Speaker 2: Yes, but we still are under a ah, the Justice Department,

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Speaker 2: the Real Estate Authority is a Crown entity. So yeah,

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Speaker 2: we've got obligations under there, and they've at this point

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Speaker 2: they've got the power to do it, and you know what,

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Speaker 2: the in the act it says it doesn't, so they can't. No,

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Speaker 2: nobody ever dreamed that anyone would do this. And our

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Speaker 2: next thing is to change the lawmak that's what we're.

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Speaker 1: Doing, well, changing the law. What about change? What about

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Speaker 1: the body itself? Is the body itself of an ideological

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Speaker 1: stand that if you've got different people within that body,

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Speaker 1: they would take a different decision to the one they've

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Speaker 1: taken or not.

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Speaker 2: I believe so. Yes, I think it's this particular crowd,

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Speaker 2: the CEO leading yep. I believe so, and they've been

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Speaker 2: on it for a couple of years before it started. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: What about the counter argument? And that is that in

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Speaker 1: life sometimes you've got to suck up some stuff and

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Speaker 1: it is what it is.

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Speaker 2: Mike, this was way over the line. I will not

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Speaker 2: sit down and learn how to worship the Maori gods.

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Speaker 2: I'm a full one hundred percent con Christian. Sorry, that

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Speaker 2: does not work for me. Nobody can make me do that.

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Speaker 2: And you know, if for nothing else, that was it?

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Speaker 2: No way.

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Speaker 1: So what are you going to do now? Because your

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Speaker 1: license will be suspended. I'm taking yep.

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Speaker 2: I've got twenty days to for you know to recount,

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Speaker 2: but we've now been joined by the Free Speech Union.

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Speaker 2: So we've got Hops, we've got Frank's Ogilvy amazing busy

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Speaker 2: writing the law and Hops and Fredge during the funding

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Speaker 2: and others. And now we've got the Free Speech Union.

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Speaker 2: We're tooling up, not stepping back.

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Speaker 1: Nice to talk to Janet Jennet Dixon, real estate agent.

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