1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,680 Speaker 1: Murray Old's Australia correspondents with us. Now he mus very 2 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:06,360 Speaker 1: good afternoon, Heather. Okay, so please tell me mus that 3 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:08,079 Speaker 1: we are getting to the point where the jury is 4 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:12,360 Speaker 1: going to go out. Yes, yes, yes. This is a 5 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 1: case of the accused alleged triple murderer, Aaron Patterson, and 6 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:21,800 Speaker 1: the allegation, of course that she denies that she deliberately 7 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:26,280 Speaker 1: killed three of her in laws and other relatives and 8 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 1: one survived. So after an eight week trial, there was 9 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:32,239 Speaker 1: a lot for the judge, mister Justice Biale to go 10 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 1: through in instructing the jury. I've struggled trying to sum 11 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 1: it up for you, to be honest, there's lots to 12 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 1: get through. Look. The key point, it seems to me 13 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:45,639 Speaker 1: is a non lawyer. I never did any legal units 14 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 1: at university at all. But he's basically said to the jury, 15 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 1: you must be sure about the evidence that you're weighing 16 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:57,279 Speaker 1: up right, how credible were witnesses. You must use what 17 00:00:57,320 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 1: you believe to be true and disregard the rest of it. 18 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 1: He's spoken about the evidence, for example, of Aaron Patterson's 19 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 1: children different to it than mother's and you know you 20 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:08,960 Speaker 1: put the accused on the stand. Was that a good movie? 21 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:11,320 Speaker 1: He said it was. Her decision was not required to 22 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:15,400 Speaker 1: give evidence in her own behalf. If the jury agrees 23 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 1: with her and supports the idea that her evidence was true, 24 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 1: you must acquit. If the jury believes that the prosecution 25 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:28,399 Speaker 1: has failed to make the case to the standard required 26 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 1: and that is beyond reasonable doubt, the jury must also equit. 27 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 1: And then he's gone through a long list of I mean, 28 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 1: a real shopping list. If you like heather of evidence. 29 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 1: I mean, clearly you need a very big brain to 30 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 1: be a Supreme Court judge. And he has certainly shamed 31 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 1: me this afternoon. I've just got a headache just trying 32 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 1: to follow it. But imagine being in that jury box 33 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 1: after all this time, all this time, and I must 34 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 1: be thinking, bloody, how will you shut up and let 35 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 1: us go and start delivery. Wasn't it last week that 36 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 1: you I'm sure it was like last Tuesday, if not 37 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 1: the thursday before that you and I was say, oh, 38 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 1: it's going to wrap up by the end of this week, 39 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 1: and here we are, We're still We're still waiting for us. 40 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:12,080 Speaker 1: So I mean, yeah, anyway, well, hopefully it's worth it 41 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 1: so much to take in I mean with the plates 42 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 1: different colors. Was her plate a different color to the 43 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:20,080 Speaker 1: deadly plates? I mean, there's so much for the jury. 44 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 1: I really feel like you could whip through that summary 45 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 1: quite fast. Don't you think are really getting their money's 46 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:29,920 Speaker 1: worth you? Anyway, listen, tell me what's going on with 47 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 1: the flights because of the conflict. Okay, well, you got 48 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:36,519 Speaker 1: Quantus and Virgin operating I think daily flights, certainly in 49 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 1: Quantus's case, I think Virgin as well, which is operating 50 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 1: in conjunction with Cutter Airways. So there were flights to 51 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 1: and from London and Sydney and various spots across Australia, Brisbane, Melbourne, 52 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:52,959 Speaker 1: Perth as well. Now some flights, for example, this morning 53 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 1: the Perth to London flight for Quantus was diverted to 54 00:02:57,600 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 1: Singapore when Iran targeted that American air base and Cutter 55 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 1: the flight Perth to Paris was turned back by Quantus 56 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 1: back to Western Australia. But this puzzles me here and 57 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:15,640 Speaker 1: my geography might not be too good. But Sydney to London, 58 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 1: London Sydney via Singapore will are operating normally, as are 59 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:21,800 Speaker 1: flights from Perth to Rome and Rome to Perth and 60 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:24,679 Speaker 1: Perth to London. So there's a couple of flights to 61 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:27,680 Speaker 1: Doha from Sydney and Brisbane this afternoon heading up to 62 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:32,519 Speaker 1: Doha on Cutter Airways the courtesy of Virgin and those 63 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 1: flights are going ahead as well last time I checked 64 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:39,559 Speaker 1: in the newsroom, those flights are proceeding, but obviously delays 65 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 1: will be applied here because they want to make one 66 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 1: hundred and one percent sure of the airspace is clear. 67 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 1: Until that, of course, both airlines saying you're out of 68 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 1: your mind. I think we're going to risk airline passengers 69 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 1: and crew and of course they're very expensive aircraft. It's 70 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 1: good to talk to you always, as we'll talk to 71 00:03:57,040 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 1: you hopefully next time we talked to you that that 72 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 1: jury has gone out there. It's very old Australia Correspondent. 73 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 1: For more from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive, listen live to 74 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 1: news talks. It'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow 75 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio.