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Speaker 1: Do you remember the story that we told you last

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Speaker 1: week about the woman who was fined for being in

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Speaker 1: a private car park for just twenty seven seconds. Well,

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Speaker 1: now a christ Church man has revealed he was payed

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Speaker 1: by the same company in exactly the same car park

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Speaker 1: for parking for only eight seconds. Mike Kelly is the

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Speaker 1: chair of the New Zealand Parking Association and is with us.

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Speaker 2: Hello Mike good here, how are you?

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Speaker 1: Well? Thank you. That's pretty outrageous though, isn't it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, certainly not what we would consider to be a

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Speaker 2: fair and reasonable practice.

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Speaker 1: So what do we do about it?

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Speaker 2: Well, what the Parking Association is doing? Just yesterday actually

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Speaker 2: we formerly released our updated Code of Practice, which is

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Speaker 2: as a set of guidelines that we give out to

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Speaker 2: the industry. Members can subscribe to that they can use

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Speaker 2: that as a way of showing the public that they

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Speaker 2: are actually operating an a fair and transparent and a

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Speaker 2: reasonable manner. The thing with private parking is that every

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Speaker 2: time you enter that site, you in effect enter into

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Speaker 2: a contract with that operator and so that that's private.

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Speaker 2: You know that that's a person to a company that

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Speaker 2: have entered into that but that contract has to be

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Speaker 2: fair and reasonable and that's what that's what our code

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Speaker 2: sets out to lay out for people, things things like

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Speaker 2: clear signing.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I'm hang on a SI mike before we go

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Speaker 1: down this path. Is Parking Services Limited the company that

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Speaker 1: we're talking about one of your members?

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Speaker 2: No they are not, Okay, So what good.

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Speaker 1: Is your code of conduct to anyone who's been pained

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Speaker 1: by them if that, if this lot is not one

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Speaker 1: of your members.

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Speaker 2: So the code of Practice is really there to assure

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Speaker 2: the public that when they are when they're entering a

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Speaker 2: car park, or they're going to use the services of

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Speaker 2: a vendor that or that are an operator, that that

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Speaker 2: operator is put some effort into making sure that this.

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Speaker 1: Operator, this operator is not abiding by the code of practice,

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Speaker 1: is it?

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Speaker 2: No, they're not. No, do so.

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Speaker 1: So then basically you're on your own as a punter,

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Speaker 1: right if you go in this park car park and

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Speaker 1: these cowboys come at you, you're on your own. So

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Speaker 1: should you just look at look at a ticket that

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Speaker 1: they issue you and go that's ridiculous and not pay it.

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Speaker 2: I think you know, you have to engage. You can't

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Speaker 2: just ignore it and take it away. But you know,

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Speaker 2: because at the end of the day, you know that

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Speaker 2: they will they will just keep taking taking it further

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Speaker 2: and further and further.

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Speaker 1: So what happens at the end then.

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Speaker 2: Well, in this case, what the Dispatch tribunal appears to

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Speaker 2: have found and I can't speak specifically about the case,

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Speaker 2: but the appears to have found that they did not

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Speaker 2: operate an affair and reason more manner.

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Speaker 1: What happens if they keep taking it? Like, keep coming

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Speaker 1: at you, keep coming at you, keep coming at you.

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Speaker 1: What's the worse that can happen?

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Speaker 2: That I couldn't answer. That's a legal question. I'm afraid

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Speaker 2: another lawyer, so potentially, but it could also you know,

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Speaker 2: could also have consequences that you know, I couldn't describe.

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Speaker 1: So why can't you describe them?

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Speaker 2: I'm not a lawyer. You know. The difficulty is that

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Speaker 2: this is a contract between that organization and this person,

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Speaker 2: and you know it is feared to that an now

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Speaker 2: view that is far from fear and reasonable.

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Speaker 1: It's how outrageous, isn't it? Okay, Mike, thank you very much,

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Speaker 1: Mike Kelly, Chair of the New Zealand Parking Association. Heather.

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Speaker 1: I dropped some washing off one day and I did

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Speaker 1: some more the next day, which I think is at

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Speaker 1: the same car park, because the car parks the laundromat

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Speaker 1: car park. I got a ticket for parking overnight, huge invoice,

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Speaker 1: and then I didn't pay it. I think, I think

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Speaker 1: we might have discovered the way that you deal with

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Speaker 1: parking services Limited, which is possibly that you ignore them

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Speaker 1: and then you see what happens. I don't know, be

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Speaker 1: as vexatious as they are. For more from Heather Duplessy

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