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Speaker 1: Dubois and you sick might happen first. Although should you

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Speaker 2: That sounds you know what? That sounds confusing? You trying

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Speaker 1: Help good to see you, by the way, And so

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Speaker 1: you've been on holiday and you look amazing.

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Speaker 2: Beautiful time of the family, had a great holidays more

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Speaker 1: There you go, So let me just just help us

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Speaker 2: It could be a rematch, But do you sick? And

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Speaker 2: Dubois looking at unifying the belts Dubois has one title

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Speaker 2: They've made me mandatory, which means I should fight Yusick next.

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Speaker 2: But there's a lot of things happening in the background

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Speaker 1: Right, where do you sit right now this morning talking

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Speaker 2: all I'm focused on now is just training. I got

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Speaker 1: How do you prepare physically for something that you don't know.

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Speaker 2: I am driven and I'm motivated. My goal is to

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Speaker 2: But I don't even know what's next. But I love it.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what's next, but I love it. I

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Speaker 2: I do get grumpy a lot faster with the kids.

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Speaker 1: Were talking about the softare and the Lockhoart thing is interesting.

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Speaker 1: What appears to me to have happened to you is

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Speaker 1: Is that fair?

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Speaker 2: That is fair. As a fighter, you think you know everything,

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Speaker 2: best balance in training. But I was missing all of that.

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Speaker 2: Now I have the perfect balance in terms of strength conditioning, boxing, training, recovery,

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Speaker 2: But the one thing that I was missing was George

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Speaker 1: Food is it? The answer is everything the gut, the gut,

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Speaker 2: What I like to do is fight Dubai okay, and

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Speaker 1: Usick present and then you get then you get his titles.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, undisputed probably be the biggest and the best achievement

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Speaker 1: So if you could, if you could, if it was possible,

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Speaker 2: No, that's not unless they have a sounds so complicated.

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Speaker 1: Well it is complicated. It is complicated. But but you

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Speaker 2: Joshua lost to Daniel Dubois, so he's looking for a

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Speaker 2: comeback fight. I don't feel like he's the money fight

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Speaker 2: He put bumps on seats. I'm not looking for a

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but the problem is the money men want the

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Speaker 2: Honey men want the money, and the money men make

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I'm going to start making them. And this it

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Speaker 2: Sorry? I say you don't want the money fight because

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Speaker 1: Where's Joshua at? Do you reckon? He doesn't strike me

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Speaker 1: Because I didn't see use it coming either in the

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Speaker 2: You break it down, U six footwork, his hand movements,

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Speaker 2: that's something that's someone I would love to fight, just

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Speaker 1: World on a scale of the is he the best

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Speaker 2: Better than Dubois, better than in order in order to

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Speaker 2: Do you think I think he's out at the moment,

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Speaker 2: enjoying family time and enjoying time for himself. But boxing

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Speaker 2: I feel like Tyson's addicted to boxing, addicted to training,

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Speaker 1: Boxing, because he's one of those that correct me, I'm wrong.

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Speaker 2: He is a freak. And when I had the train

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Speaker 2: My thing is, when you retire, I think you shou

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Speaker 1: So well, yeah, well I read somewhere Higgins said this

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Speaker 1: is this is it for you? So you've got about

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Speaker 1: a year left? Is that what I read?

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Speaker 2: About? Two years left?

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Speaker 1: Two years left?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, five years old, sometime in about thirty five.

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Speaker 1: So you win a title, you win all the titles,

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Speaker 1: you are the undisputed heavyweight champion of the world, and

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Speaker 1: you do.

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Speaker 2: What defend him a few times? Yes, and then when

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Speaker 2: I'm thirty five, it just says I'm about to turn

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Speaker 2: thirty six, I'll retire.

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Speaker 1: But do you lose them and retire or do you

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Speaker 1: hold them and retire?

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Speaker 2: Hold him and retire, would bet just like what Lennox

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Speaker 2: law is, did.

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Speaker 1: You retire at the champion of the world.

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Speaker 2: Champion of the world, undisputed, unified champion of the world.

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Speaker 1: Let's say that's true, and we all wanted to believe

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Speaker 1: it is. At that point, what do you how do

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Speaker 1: you feel the rest of your life given that that

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Speaker 1: is the I mean, no one gets that moment.

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Speaker 2: No one gets that buzz or that moment of winning

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Speaker 2: a fight or celebrating after a fight. But when you've

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Speaker 2: achieved everything you set out to achieve, and you have

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Speaker 2: a beautiful, loving family who's just at home waiting for you,

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Speaker 2: and you're content, then it's some for you to do

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Speaker 2: something else. And I just got to it's just about

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Speaker 2: setting goals. If you have other goals in life that

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Speaker 2: you want to achieve, go and do that.

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Speaker 1: That's fantastic. I enjoy your company. I always enjoy your company.

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Speaker 1: I'm glad you could come and thank you because you

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Speaker 1: didn't have to. And the cap I will give back

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Speaker 1: to you.

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Speaker 2: But keep it, because.

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Speaker 1: How many of these are there?

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Speaker 2: There's one more left in my house.

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Speaker 1: There's two. This is one of two.

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Speaker 2: It's one of ten, one of one of one.

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Speaker 1: Of ten. Good to see you, Thank you, Joseph Parker.

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