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Speaker 1: Father due to see Ellen. Okay, so the police fitness

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Speaker 1: by the way, coming up seventeen past five. Police are

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Speaker 1: ordering their recruitment process now because it was revealed this

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Speaker 1: morning that three applicants were allowed to join the Police

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Speaker 1: College despite the fact that they failed the fitness test. Now,

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Speaker 1: Paul Lmrod is the vice president of the Police Association

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Speaker 1: with US. Now, Hey, Paul, hey Heather, do we still

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Speaker 1: need them to pass the fitness test?

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Speaker 2: Absolutely? You know, firstly, you do need a minimum standard

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Speaker 2: that all parties such as the union, police and government

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Speaker 2: have agreed to just to get into Police College. You

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Speaker 2: know that's a given. Secondly, Police College, you know it's

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Speaker 2: a pretty high pressure learning environment. It's not just class study.

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Speaker 2: There's driver training, firearms, taser, baton, hand to hand combat

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Speaker 2: and if your physical condition isn't up to at least

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Speaker 2: a minimum level, invariably you'll be injured and that'll put

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Speaker 2: more pressure on your learning and then it could probably

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Speaker 2: even delay your graduations. So you have to be fit

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Speaker 2: to get on there, to be able to not have

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Speaker 2: to concentrate on an added extra while you're at place.

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Speaker 1: Carp Do you suspect that these three have been added

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Speaker 1: to try to make up numbers in order to get

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Speaker 1: to the target of five hundred by November.

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Speaker 2: We haven't been told why these three, whoever they are,

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Speaker 2: have been given an exemption from the PA.

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Speaker 1: Is there possibly another explanation?

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Speaker 2: No, I don't think so.

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Speaker 1: So you think that it's to make up the numbers

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Speaker 1: to get to five hundred.

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Speaker 2: Well, the PAT the scoring system has changed. So when

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Speaker 2: I went in a number of years ago, you either

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Speaker 2: passed or you failed. So now that it's on a

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Speaker 2: points system, so you have to get eleven points of

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Speaker 2: the PAT and that's broken up into the run, the jump,

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Speaker 2: push ups in a grip test. So they've kind of

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Speaker 2: realized that maybe the heavier set BMI such as our

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Speaker 2: rugby players wouldn't fit into the mold. So they've gone, okay,

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Speaker 2: well we can score it differently and you know that

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Speaker 2: will help get people into colline.

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Speaker 1: Is it possible that somebody who needs to get to

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Speaker 1: eleven points got to ten and almost there but not quite.

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Speaker 1: But then somebody up at the upper levels was like, look,

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Speaker 1: this person is a super brain. We need them to

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Speaker 1: come and do the scam fighting. So they're going to

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Speaker 1: be sitting behind a desk. They're not really going to

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Speaker 1: be tackling anybody on the street past them.

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Speaker 2: No, because everyone has to do that when you start, Heather,

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Speaker 2: So it doesn't matter you know what your your cognitive

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Speaker 2: level is in that space. Yeah, you can move into

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Speaker 2: the area, but you're still a police officer, and a

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Speaker 2: police officer has minimum requirements and if you are sworn

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Speaker 2: then you're expected to be able to do the job

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Speaker 2: as every other police sworn police.

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Speaker 1: Hey, Paul, thank you. I really appreciate your time.

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Speaker 2: Mate.

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Speaker 1: This Paul Elmrod, who's the New Zealand Police Association vice president.

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