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Speaker 2: of Weekend Sport on News Talks edby. February nine, Happy

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Speaker 2: birthday to Glenn McGrath. I'm Jason Pine, Show producer Anny McDonald.

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Speaker 2: We have three hours of sport for you to get

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Speaker 2: amongst berg Super Rugby show for you today. The twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty five season starts on Friday. All six New Zealand

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Speaker 2: show today, Vern Cottup and Rob Penny this hour, Tana

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Speaker 2: So as mentioned, we're chatting today with all six New

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Speaker 2: Zealand based Super Rugby head coaches. Let's start with the

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Speaker 2: defending champions.

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Speaker 4: We've got to regather.

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Speaker 1: They teck it, they teck it backwards, it's going to.

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Speaker 5: Go over the line.

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Speaker 2: Blue days have loved to hear these words again the Blues.

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Speaker 6: I'm Super Rugby.

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Speaker 5: Champion for the first time. It's twenty one year.

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Speaker 2: Blues head coach Vern Kinda joins us. Then you're defending champions,

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Speaker 2: so does that mean that you've now got a blueprint

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Speaker 4: That's a really good question. I think we enjoyed the success,

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Speaker 4: So that there was last year and this is another year,

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Speaker 4: there's parts of our performance that we like to double

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Speaker 2: Sam Dowry had a big season for you in twenty

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Speaker 6: So yeah, it's a loss, but it's also.

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Speaker 4: An example of what we what we want and there's

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Speaker 4: He's he had a great season last year and that

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Speaker 4: Even were disappointed for Sam.

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Speaker 2: Boden Barrett's back. Will he play first five and fullback

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Speaker 2: So with Stephen, perhaps doubtful. For the first little while.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that could happen.

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Speaker 4: Harry did a great job and he led the team

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Speaker 4: Oh, we've got bits of things all around the place.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, well we'll.

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Speaker 4: Name a team this week to the Chiefs big game

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Speaker 2: I bet they will. Seven new faces, seven new Super

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Speaker 2: his feats in the sevens game. How's he fitted into

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: That really good.

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Speaker 4: He's a great pat, he's got a great future and

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Speaker 7: You know.

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Speaker 4: There's there's another young player, Rica Simpson. I think zav

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Speaker 4: Taylor who was the founder twenties. We've got some good

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Speaker 2: Did you learn some good stuff last year? And you've

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Speaker 4: We're always learning, Pioneer. Yeah, so you know, No, there's

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Speaker 4: good key learnings just about ourselves and the competition because

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Speaker 3: I really enjoyed it.

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Speaker 4: So it's you know, and hopefully you know, the things

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Speaker 6: I'm happy here.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, no, no, no that there'll be somebody else.

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Speaker 4: But Joe's done a good job. He's good, made of

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Speaker 2: Thanks for chatting Vern, all the best in your quest

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Speaker 4: Back mate good man, thank you ches just pinning, No.

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Speaker 2: Thanks Van Vern Cootter, head coach of the Blues. As mentioned,

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Speaker 2: the first month Chiefs, Highlands, Hurricanes, Brumbies. That's tough. Blues

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Speaker 2: it says grikey. We've got Rob Penny on this hour

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Speaker 2: Twelve twenty six on News Talks, Abe it's our Super

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Speaker 2: Rugby preview show across the afternoon, chatting with all six

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Speaker 2: of the New Zealand based Super Rugby head coaches. Rob

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Speaker 2: Penny standing by the chat to us, Henry says, Piney,

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Speaker 2: it's tough this year to rank these teams, but I've

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Speaker 2: gone Blues, Chiefs, Crusaders, Hurricanes, Highlanders, Mowana PACIFICA thanks. Henry

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Speaker 2: Peter says the Hurricanes would have won the whole comp

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Speaker 2: If cam Roygard hadn't been injured, they won the round robin.

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Speaker 8: Under advantage down the short time leffore Tony to backus Spragger,

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Speaker 2: That was a rare bright spot for the Crusaders last year,

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Speaker 6: In some regards yes, and in some regards probably not

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Speaker 6: you know, we're sending ourselves up for a great occasion

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I saw that Dallas and George had gone off.

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Speaker 2: All right, Well, we wish him the best in his recovery,

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Speaker 2: You only got five games out of Ethan blackhead of

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Speaker 2: last season. How's he come through pre season?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, well, maybe there's a wee bit of a message

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Speaker 6: in this. Ethan's come in week two of our pre

434
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Speaker 6: season in November. He's come all the way through, never

435
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Speaker 6: had a problem at all and had two hit outs.

436
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Speaker 6: He had thirty odd minutes against the Blues, he had

437
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Speaker 6: forty minutes last week against the Highlanders, and his efficiencies

438
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Speaker 6: as great as ever. And you know, he's such a

439
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Speaker 6: energizer around the group and his commitment to the cause

440
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Speaker 6: is unbelievable. And you know, having him in the group

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Speaker 6: and around the group as a vice captain the years

442
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Speaker 6: is tremendous and you know, the proofs and the putting

443
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Speaker 6: around the fact that he had a protracted conditioning block

444
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Speaker 6: during the pre season and we hope that will really

445
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Speaker 6: set him up for a great Crusades program and beyond.

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Speaker 2: David HARVILLI will be your captain this year. How did

447
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Speaker 2: you arrive at that decision?

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Speaker 6: After lots of negotiation and discussion with many many people,

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Speaker 6: many different components of the organization. It was clear early

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Speaker 6: on that Davy was a front runner. It was just

451
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Speaker 6: really I guess, ensuring that anyone that wanted to have

452
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Speaker 6: a view on it was able to express that, and

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Speaker 6: it was it was very clear early on that Davy was,

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Speaker 6: as I say, the front runner to take over from Scoot.

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Speaker 6: And you know he's he's really embraced the role. He

456
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Speaker 6: played tremendous on his forty minute spell against the Honders

457
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Speaker 6: last week and leading from the front as he does,

458
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Speaker 6: and he set up the leadership group which is going

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Speaker 6: to be or allow him to play hopefully at his

460
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Speaker 6: best and also grow people around him. And it's an

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Speaker 6: exciting transition to a slightly different leadership style.

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Speaker 2: And you lost one of your coaching team, Tummoty Ellison

463
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Speaker 2: to the All Blacks and a full time capacity brad More,

464
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Speaker 2: though has rejoined the staff. How's he fitted back in?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, well, Toms was a big, a big piece of

466
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Speaker 6: the puzzle, you know, taken away from the organization at

467
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Speaker 6: the end of la season, as you say, and we

468
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Speaker 6: really really proud of the fact that he's gone back

469
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Speaker 6: or gone into the all black environment and established himself there.

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Speaker 6: But Brad as quality coach, quality man. He's been in

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Speaker 6: the organization, he had success before, a very smart rugby

472
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Speaker 6: coach and in combination with James Marshall, putting together you know,

473
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Speaker 6: the offensive side of the ball really really efficiency and

474
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Speaker 6: excited about the you know, the direction that we're taking

475
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Speaker 6: and hopefully, you know, on the back of the work

476
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Speaker 6: that they're doing and the players import we can really

477
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Speaker 6: you know, establish something pretty special in that area.

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Speaker 2: Just to finish rub As you look forward to twenty

479
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Speaker 2: twenty five, what were the biggest lessons you learned in

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty four?

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Speaker 6: Every environment when you come into it, you know, there's

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Speaker 6: some processes and systems and structures that are established. And

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Speaker 6: because of the sex the success of the organization in

484
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Speaker 6: recent history. Done an amazing job with the staff and

485
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Speaker 6: the and the organization that had seven in a row

486
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Speaker 6: without you know, assumption to mate, I guess that everything

487
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Speaker 6: will roll on. With the removal of some some iconic

488
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Speaker 6: players out of the environment, changes in the structure of

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Speaker 6: TIMS went from defense coach to attack coach. Toddy came

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Speaker 6: in as a new defense coach. You know, there was

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Speaker 6: some There was some I guess, some internal bits and

492
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Speaker 6: pieces that just needed adjusting. The off season has been

493
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Speaker 6: been a powerful part of not a not a massive revolution,

494
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Speaker 6: but an evolution. I would describe it as within the

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Speaker 6: organization around the high performance area. And you know, I

496
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Speaker 6: guess the outcomes on game day where everyone will dictate

497
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Speaker 6: whether it's been a success or not. But it already

498
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Speaker 6: feels like we've made progress in a number of areas.

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Speaker 6: And the worst ethic of the people in the organizations unquestionable.

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Speaker 6: And so we put those combinations of those two things

501
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Speaker 6: together and I'm really boyed and boyant about what the

502
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Speaker 6: future holds for the organization. And I'm sure that the

503
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Speaker 6: players will embrace what they need to to be the

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Speaker 6: best they can be every week for the Crusader.

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Speaker 2: Fans can't wait to see you kick things off against

506
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Speaker 2: the Hurricanes to start the season. Rob, thanks so much

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Speaker 2: for chatting to us, mate.

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Speaker 6: Pleasure yeah, looking forward to the super aguous. So it's

509
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Speaker 6: going to be an exciting year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let's so. Rob. Thanks and Rob Penny, Crusader's head coach,

511
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Speaker 2: as they look to bounce back from one of their

512
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Speaker 2: worst seasons. Sugarcoated. Twenty twenty four was a really challenging

513
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Speaker 2: season for Crusaders fans. You might want to share your

514
00:28:14,867 --> 00:28:18,147
Speaker 2: optimism ahead of twenty twenty five. Crusaders fans, Oh, eight

515
00:28:18,267 --> 00:28:21,067
Speaker 2: hundred and eighty ten eighty, do you feel as though

516
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Speaker 2: what happened last year is just an outlier, just an aberration,

517
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Speaker 2: and the things are going to turn around again in

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty five. I don't think your favorite.

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Speaker 7: I don't.

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Speaker 2: As I said before, I think the Blues are favorites,

521
00:28:32,907 --> 00:28:40,867
Speaker 2: Chiefs probably close behind. But yeah, I don't think the

522
00:28:40,907 --> 00:28:45,147
Speaker 2: Crusaders can be can be as bad again. And you

523
00:28:45,227 --> 00:28:48,107
Speaker 2: look at the players who weren't there last year for

524
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Speaker 2: large periods. Will Jordan didn't play it all last season,

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Speaker 2: having Will Jordan coming into team. I talked about having

526
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Speaker 2: Boden Barrett coming in to the Blues, having Will Jordan

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Speaker 2: coming back massive huge Breidon Enol didn't play it all

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Speaker 2: last season either, And I don't know whether he is

529
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Speaker 2: fit this season either and to check on braden En

530
00:29:06,227 --> 00:29:07,827
Speaker 2: or but he didn't play it all last season. Scott

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Speaker 2: Barrett only played five games, Ethan Black out of five games,

532
00:29:11,827 --> 00:29:18,187
Speaker 2: Cody Taylor four games last season, so massive chunk out

533
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Speaker 2: of that team. And then the first five Mary Go

534
00:29:21,187 --> 00:29:25,987
Speaker 2: rounds as they tried to find a replacement for Richie Moongar,

535
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Speaker 2: reverz Rahana Tahakimada, Riley Halhepper, David Harvilli and Fergus burkh

536
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Speaker 2: Is now also gone. All tried in the ten jumper

537
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Speaker 2: no One rarely with any consistent success this season. It

538
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Speaker 2: looks like Tahakimata and James O'Connor a head to head

539
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Speaker 2: for that ten. Jersey wouldn't be at all surprised if

540
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Speaker 2: it is James O'Connor who wears ten when the Crusaders

541
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Speaker 2: line up for the first game of the season Friday

542
00:29:51,667 --> 00:29:56,027
Speaker 2: night against the Hurricanes. But Crusaders fans optimists that you

543
00:29:56,187 --> 00:29:58,427
Speaker 2: are are you willing to put twenty twenty four behind

544
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Speaker 2: you and say twenty twenty five is going to be us?

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Speaker 2: We're back again, Steven says, here's your order of the

546
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Speaker 2: New Zealand teams. Hurricanes, Highlanders, Chiefs, Blues, Crusaders more one

547
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Speaker 2: of PACIFICA. My dark horses, Stephen, are the Highlanders. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I just don't know whether they quite have the quality.

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00:30:15,947 --> 00:30:20,627
Speaker 2: I've had trouble as usual recruiting down there. Jamie Joseph

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Speaker 2: with us after two he can give us an idea

551
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Speaker 2: of how he thinks the team is shaping up. I

552
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Speaker 2: think having him back on the grasses massive, that's a big,

553
00:30:29,227 --> 00:30:32,667
Speaker 2: a big change. Clarkdermody clearly a good rugby coach, but

554
00:30:32,787 --> 00:30:37,427
Speaker 2: Jamie Joseph as Jamie Joseph, so ten years on from

555
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Speaker 2: winning it with the Highlanders as head coach in twenty fifteen,

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Speaker 2: can he repeat the dose lines open twenty to one

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Speaker 2: oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty nine, two ninety two

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Speaker 2: one text back at a.

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Speaker 4: Moment you be the TMO.

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Speaker 1: Have your say on eight hundred and eighty ten eighty

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Speaker 1: weekends for it with Jason him and G. J. Garbnerholmes,

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Speaker 1: New Zealand's most trusted home builder news Dogs, there'd.

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Speaker 2: Be sixteen to one. Jamie Joseph is like a modern

564
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Speaker 2: day Laurie Mains, says the sticks from Nigel looking forward

565
00:31:05,467 --> 00:31:07,947
Speaker 2: to year one of us new Ragin, Sami. Nigel, so

566
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Speaker 2: am I the Crusaders need grizz to give the Crusaders

567
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Speaker 2: up that ever a rav up, says Scotty. Well, let's

568
00:31:14,067 --> 00:31:16,307
Speaker 2: see what happens when they get underway and lead us

569
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Speaker 2: off in five days from now, when Super Raki gets

570
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Speaker 2: underway for twenty twenty five. The black Caps, I'm not

571
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Speaker 2: sure if you've caught this news. Overnight a seventy eight

572
00:31:24,507 --> 00:31:27,747
Speaker 2: run win against Pakistan in their One day tri series

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Speaker 2: opener in Lahore, three hundred and thirty for six, batting

574
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Speaker 2: first Glenn Phillips one hundred and six night out of

575
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Speaker 2: seventy four balls. It's his first od I century. I

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Speaker 2: would have thought he'd have one by now. In reply,

577
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Speaker 2: Pakistan all at two five to two, Mitchell, Santna and

578
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Speaker 2: Matt Henry taking three wickets each. New Zealand place South

579
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Speaker 2: Africa tomorrow is the built up to the champions Trophy

580
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Speaker 2: continues that starts for New Zealand on Wednesday week Coast

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Speaker 2: to Coast yesterday was great to get all the coverage

582
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Speaker 2: on the radio from Coast to Coast. Tasmanian Alex Hunt

583
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Speaker 2: the winner yesterday of the men's race Hamish Elliot second,

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Speaker 2: Sam Clark was third, and in the women's race it

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Speaker 2: was Deborah Lynch who won from Simone Mayer and Usher

586
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Speaker 2: in third place and sale GP on Sydney Harbor Yesterday

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Speaker 2: wasn't a happy first day for New Zealand. Australia lead

588
00:32:15,947 --> 00:32:19,547
Speaker 2: after a dominant first day on home waters. New Zealand

589
00:32:19,667 --> 00:32:22,427
Speaker 2: eighth and seventh in the first two races, but then

590
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Speaker 2: suffered damage to their rudder control system and race three.

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00:32:26,667 --> 00:32:28,427
Speaker 2: They were moving up the field and race three, but

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Speaker 2: then a nosedive damaged the rudder control system and saw

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Speaker 2: them cross the line last. Because they couldn't get back

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Speaker 2: up on the foils, they were forced to retire from

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Speaker 2: the fourth and final race of the day, so ninth

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Speaker 2: heading into day two highly unlikely to make the three

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Speaker 2: boat final racing underway this afternoon on Sydney Harbor on

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Speaker 2: day two at five o'clock twelve forty five. Next weekend,

599
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Speaker 2: more than twenty of the world's best riders going to

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Speaker 2: compete in the largest mountain bike event to ever be

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Speaker 2: held in New Zealand's natural selection bike contested on the

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Speaker 2: iconic Mount Dua in Queenstown Saturday, February fifteen. That's next

603
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Speaker 2: time our world class mountain bike course has been built there.

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Speaker 2: The competition features a men's and women's division and combines

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Speaker 2: the three most dynamic disciplines in mountain biking, Big Mountain,

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Speaker 2: Big Mountain Free Ride that is, slope style, and downhill.

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Speaker 2: The rider lineup includes twenty two riders from nine countries,

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Speaker 2: including our top rider, New Zealander Robin Gooms, who joins

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Speaker 2: us now. Robin, thanks for taking the time for a chat.

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Speaker 2: How much you're looking forward to riding in front of

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Speaker 2: your home crowd next weekend?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I'm stojo Car. Wait can it be a good

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Speaker 9: week I haven't Yeah, i haven't had like a free

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Speaker 9: ride event of this scale in New Zealand, so I'm

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Speaker 9: pretty pumped to be able to do it in front

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Speaker 9: of the front of the home.

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Speaker 2: Is you know how big is this event? Just sort

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Speaker 2: of put us put it into context for us.

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Speaker 9: Oh, it's world class, Like all of the best riders

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Speaker 9: from all over the planet are coming here, and yeah,

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Speaker 9: it's gonna be big.

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Speaker 2: Explain the three disciplines to us, Big Mountain free Ride,

623
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Speaker 2: slope style and down hill.

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Speaker 9: So Big Mountain Free Ride is like kind of more

625
00:34:11,547 --> 00:34:16,507
Speaker 9: natural terrain riding things rugged and raw and pretty much

626
00:34:16,627 --> 00:34:20,347
Speaker 9: just going big. Downhill is more of a race format

627
00:34:20,427 --> 00:34:24,227
Speaker 9: where everything is just like fast paced, pop to bottom

628
00:34:24,307 --> 00:34:29,187
Speaker 9: timed run, technical features, jumps, things like that. And then

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Speaker 9: slope style is like a judge competition that's based on

630
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Speaker 9: like style and amplitude and bigger tricks and so yeah,

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Speaker 9: it's just like a combination of those things.

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Speaker 2: And for you, of the three of them, is there

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Speaker 2: is there one or more in particular that you that

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Speaker 2: you are stronger in, that you specialize in, that you

635
00:34:50,867 --> 00:34:51,467
Speaker 2: focus more on.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, so I spend more time doing like the big

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00:34:55,707 --> 00:34:58,027
Speaker 9: mountain free ride and a bit of slope style as well.

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00:34:58,147 --> 00:35:01,187
Speaker 9: So yeah, I guess two areas. And I've also competed

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00:35:01,227 --> 00:35:05,427
Speaker 9: in downhill, so a little bit of experience there, and

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Speaker 9: I think, yeah, just anyone who's got the balance of

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00:35:07,827 --> 00:35:10,107
Speaker 9: all three is going to do good.

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Speaker 2: Tell us about the track that you'll be riding on

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00:35:12,787 --> 00:35:14,067
Speaker 2: at Mount Juan next weekend.

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Speaker 9: So the courses natural terrain, well it's man made using

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Speaker 9: natural terrain, So the existing rolling hills and terrain that

646
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Speaker 9: is there.

647
00:35:26,747 --> 00:35:28,027
Speaker 10: The course builders have.

648
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Speaker 9: Just gone in and cut lips and landings into the

649
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Speaker 9: hills and kind of like minimal shaping, but enough for

650
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Speaker 9: you to do jumps and tricks and put together the

651
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Speaker 9: run you want to put together.

652
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Speaker 2: So cool. You had a huge year last year, including

653
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Speaker 2: winning the iconic Red Ball Rampage in Utah. That was

654
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Speaker 2: the first time female writers had been included in that event.

655
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Speaker 2: You were the first female to drop in. How big

656
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Speaker 2: a moment was that for you?

657
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Speaker 9: Yeah, that was the biggest moment of my life probably

658
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Speaker 9: it was. Yeah, it was pretty picktic being the first

659
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Speaker 9: one to drop in, just like that, the intense feeling

660
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Speaker 9: like you're sitting at the top of the hill and

661
00:36:08,027 --> 00:36:11,107
Speaker 9: you can just feel the whole crowd looking up what

662
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Speaker 9: being like, it felt like a pretty heavy moment, and

663
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Speaker 9: then yeah, the wind was like pretty special.

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Speaker 2: I'll watched some of that rampage footage. Man, it's it's

665
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Speaker 2: just incredible what you do. How much courage do you

666
00:36:24,747 --> 00:36:25,547
Speaker 2: need for the sport?

667
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Speaker 9: You know, Like, it's definitely scary. I think most of

668
00:36:32,547 --> 00:36:35,067
Speaker 9: the time I'm scared and you just have to like

669
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Speaker 9: overcome it, and it's always really rewarding when you do.

670
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Speaker 2: How do you do that? Because from looking at you

671
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Speaker 2: right on this footage, it seems like you're just feelss,

672
00:36:43,747 --> 00:36:46,147
Speaker 2: but you do experience doubts on occasion.

673
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Speaker 9: Yeah, I think fear is always there, but and yeah,

674
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Speaker 9: I guess there is doubt. That's kind of what fear

675
00:36:56,027 --> 00:36:59,227
Speaker 9: is is just like the unknown of things. But it's

676
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Speaker 9: just learning how to use that to drive you and

677
00:37:03,187 --> 00:37:07,347
Speaker 9: just kind of switching off doubt and focusing on the

678
00:37:07,667 --> 00:37:10,947
Speaker 9: kind of positives, like you know, what goes good. So

679
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Speaker 9: that's kind of how I try to.

680
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Speaker 11: Deal with it.

681
00:37:14,107 --> 00:37:16,947
Speaker 2: So apart from having that real mental strength, what do

682
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Speaker 2: you reckon? The other main reasons for your success have.

683
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Speaker 9: Been I'd say luck is definitely a part of it. Like, yeah,

684
00:37:25,667 --> 00:37:29,067
Speaker 9: you've got to work hard and do the right things,

685
00:37:29,747 --> 00:37:31,307
Speaker 9: but you're so kind of good to get lucky.

686
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Speaker 2: I guess, yeah, Well, I imagine that's a part of it.

687
00:37:35,707 --> 00:37:38,027
Speaker 2: I want to imagine you make your own your own

688
00:37:38,067 --> 00:37:40,227
Speaker 2: luck to a large degree. I read that you're also

689
00:37:40,347 --> 00:37:43,667
Speaker 2: developing your own dedicated training space. How's that going.

690
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Speaker 7: Yeah, it's going really good.

691
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Speaker 9: Actually, yeah, I've been pretty again I say lucky to

692
00:37:50,387 --> 00:37:52,707
Speaker 9: be able to get a better land and start building

693
00:37:52,747 --> 00:37:55,627
Speaker 9: this training compound. So I think going forward, it'll just

694
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Speaker 9: allow me to like train and like just drill in

695
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Speaker 9: what I want to learn and just be better. So

696
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Speaker 9: looking forward to it.

697
00:38:02,907 --> 00:38:05,307
Speaker 2: And where are we in your season, Robin? Where does

698
00:38:05,387 --> 00:38:08,907
Speaker 2: this event fall and what is immediately next after this one?

699
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Speaker 7: For you?

700
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Speaker 9: Natural Selection is actually the first event of the season

701
00:38:14,947 --> 00:38:17,507
Speaker 9: and then it kind of kicks off where crank works Roder,

702
00:38:17,867 --> 00:38:20,587
Speaker 9: I'll be doing slope styles there and then yeah, it

703
00:38:20,667 --> 00:38:22,907
Speaker 9: just goes roll straight into the international season.

704
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Speaker 2: And so traveling far and wide, do you ever sort

705
00:38:25,947 --> 00:38:27,947
Speaker 2: of think to yourself, Man, I'm actually doing this, this

706
00:38:28,147 --> 00:38:30,267
Speaker 2: is this is what I do for a job now.

707
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Speaker 9: Yeah, I respect. On the end of the time, it's

708
00:38:32,907 --> 00:38:36,787
Speaker 9: pretty crazy. Just yeah, literally living the dream, traveling the world,

709
00:38:36,907 --> 00:38:38,467
Speaker 9: riding bikes in crazy places.

710
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Speaker 2: Yeah, doing it well too. Hey, Robin, we can't wait

711
00:38:41,027 --> 00:38:43,427
Speaker 2: for next weekend in Queenstown. Thanks so much for chatting

712
00:38:43,427 --> 00:38:45,347
Speaker 2: to us and all the best at Mount Dua for

713
00:38:45,427 --> 00:38:47,347
Speaker 2: Natural Selection Bike Sick.

714
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Speaker 9: Thank you have a good one.

715
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Speaker 2: You have a good one too, Robin. Thanks indeed, Robin

716
00:38:50,227 --> 00:38:52,747
Speaker 2: gooms there one of our top mountain bike riders. Natural

717
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Speaker 2: Selection Bike Mount Dua, Queenstown next Saturday. World class stuff this.

718
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Speaker 2: We'll try and bring you some updates on the show

719
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Speaker 2: next Saturday. It's eight and a half to one. New

720
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Speaker 2: Stalks Ever.

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Speaker 1: Breaking down the Hail Mary's and the epic fail weekends

722
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Speaker 1: for it with Jason Lyme News.

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Speaker 2: Talk ZENB coming up five to one. Let's update you

724
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Speaker 2: on some live sport. Halliburton Johnston Sheeld cricket. This is

725
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Speaker 2: the women's fifty over comp Otago are the runaway leaders

726
00:39:21,987 --> 00:39:24,387
Speaker 2: in this competition. It's a full round robin, so ten

727
00:39:24,507 --> 00:39:27,627
Speaker 2: games each and then the top two go into the final.

728
00:39:28,307 --> 00:39:30,987
Speaker 2: Otago have won all seven of their games so far

729
00:39:31,147 --> 00:39:34,467
Speaker 2: and cannot be topped, so they will host the final

730
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Speaker 2: regardless of what happens in their last three games. Central

731
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Speaker 2: are closest to them and then Wellington, Auckland and Canterbury

732
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Speaker 2: also in the mix. So games today in New Plymouth

733
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Speaker 2: where Northern Districts won the toss elected to bat first

734
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Speaker 2: against Central one ninety one for five and the thirty

735
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Speaker 2: fourth over. Otago are actually not up against it necessarily,

736
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Speaker 2: but Auckland are giving them a good run for their money.

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Speaker 2: In Auckland they won the toss Auckland elected to bat

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Speaker 2: They're won eighty for three and the forty second over

739
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Speaker 2: and at the base from Reserve and Wellington. Canterbury won

740
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Speaker 2: the toss, they decided to bat first against the Wellington

741
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Speaker 2: Blaze and through to one hundred and forty five for

742
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Speaker 2: five at the end of the thirty fifth over. So

743
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Speaker 2: we'll keep updating you on the cricket across the afternoon,

744
00:40:15,747 --> 00:40:19,067
Speaker 2: as we will on other bits and pieces. Super Bowl tomorrow,

745
00:40:19,747 --> 00:40:22,867
Speaker 2: super Bowl fifty nine. It's I guess, the one day

746
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Speaker 2: of the year that a lot of people watch American

747
00:40:25,347 --> 00:40:28,107
Speaker 2: football when they wouldn't ordinarily watch it, not just here

748
00:40:28,627 --> 00:40:30,907
Speaker 2: but even in the US Super Bowl Sunday as it

749
00:40:31,027 --> 00:40:35,347
Speaker 2: is over there, absolutely massive. The viewership is just through

750
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Speaker 2: the roof, much much bigger than anything else in an

751
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Speaker 2: American sporting sense. I've got a Super Bowl preview for

752
00:40:42,547 --> 00:40:46,387
Speaker 2: you after two o'clock actually, but after the news at

753
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Speaker 2: one we're back into our Super Rugby preview and chatting

754
00:40:49,907 --> 00:40:53,187
Speaker 2: to a couple of coaches who, yeah, I'm really looking

755
00:40:53,227 --> 00:40:56,547
Speaker 2: forward to hearing from. Actually, Tana Umager took over as

756
00:40:56,627 --> 00:41:00,707
Speaker 2: Mona PACIFICA coach last year and this year has managed

757
00:41:00,747 --> 00:41:04,187
Speaker 2: to attract Ardie Savia to his franchise. Has made him

758
00:41:04,227 --> 00:41:07,307
Speaker 2: captain what are more on a Pacific as a realistic

759
00:41:07,387 --> 00:41:10,867
Speaker 2: goals and ambitions for twenty twenty five and then the Hurricanes.

760
00:41:11,147 --> 00:41:13,827
Speaker 2: Clark Laidlaw had a good season first season and charged

761
00:41:13,867 --> 00:41:16,147
Speaker 2: last year. How's he looking ahead of twenty twenty five?

762
00:41:17,907 --> 00:41:20,707
Speaker 1: The only place to discuss the biggest FOCE issues on

763
00:41:21,187 --> 00:41:22,267
Speaker 1: and after field.

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Speaker 4: It's all on Weekend.

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Speaker 1: Sport with Jason Vane on your home of Sport News Talks, News.

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Speaker 2: Talk's he been Weekend Sports seven past one. Thanks for

767
00:41:34,147 --> 00:41:36,267
Speaker 2: joining us this afternoon. If you're on your way back

768
00:41:36,347 --> 00:41:41,027
Speaker 2: from your long weekend, your manufactured long weekend. If you

769
00:41:41,107 --> 00:41:47,147
Speaker 2: took Friday off and enjoyed a four day sojourn somewhere

770
00:41:47,187 --> 00:41:48,867
Speaker 2: and you're on your way back, ready for work tomorrow.

771
00:41:48,907 --> 00:41:50,507
Speaker 2: Good day have you with us. Thanks for tuning in.

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00:41:50,627 --> 00:41:52,947
Speaker 2: We'll try and keep your company and keep you interested

773
00:41:53,147 --> 00:41:55,907
Speaker 2: educated even over the next couple of hours. Sports Wise,

774
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Speaker 2: you've landed in the middle of our Super Rugby preview show,

775
00:42:00,267 --> 00:42:03,947
Speaker 2: looking forward to the competition getting underway on Friday. We

776
00:42:04,067 --> 00:42:09,067
Speaker 2: heard from Vern Cotter, coach of the defending champion Blues.

777
00:42:09,187 --> 00:42:11,907
Speaker 2: Last hour, Rob Penny, as well out of the Crusaders.

778
00:42:12,427 --> 00:42:15,347
Speaker 2: After two o'clock Clayton McMillan from the Chiefs. I still

779
00:42:15,347 --> 00:42:19,547
Speaker 2: think their favorite, still think their favorite. I thought they

780
00:42:19,587 --> 00:42:22,947
Speaker 2: were favorite last year as well. And also Jamie Joseph

781
00:42:23,387 --> 00:42:27,147
Speaker 2: back at the Helm of the Highlanders. He was director

782
00:42:27,187 --> 00:42:30,147
Speaker 2: of rugby or head of rugby or something similar last

783
00:42:30,227 --> 00:42:33,907
Speaker 2: year whatever that meant. But now he is head coach again.

784
00:42:34,347 --> 00:42:36,787
Speaker 2: So Jamie Joseph after two this our Clark laid law

785
00:42:36,907 --> 00:42:38,947
Speaker 2: from the Hurricanes. But we're going to kick it off

786
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Speaker 2: with Mowana Pacifica.

787
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Speaker 7: Good quickball, hot ely hot heely up to Tanny Twala,

788
00:42:45,707 --> 00:42:49,427
Speaker 7: Tenny Towala, preach, pass, think on a score and it's

789
00:42:49,547 --> 00:42:50,507
Speaker 7: lotto ay see.

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Speaker 5: He comes round behind the posts and dots it down.

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Speaker 7: Boy.

792
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Speaker 11: They deserve that, Jacob Sittilating.

793
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Speaker 6: Game A forty and the Battle on the.

794
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Speaker 11: Pacific has been won by Mowanna Pacifica.

795
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Speaker 2: Pacifica back again this season and looking to improve upon

796
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Speaker 2: their performances of the last three seasons. Last year, just

797
00:43:15,307 --> 00:43:18,467
Speaker 2: to remind you, Miner Pacifica finished eleventh on the twelve

798
00:43:18,547 --> 00:43:22,507
Speaker 2: team table with four wins, ten defeats eighteen points, which

799
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Speaker 2: had them about eight points outside the top eight who

800
00:43:25,267 --> 00:43:28,907
Speaker 2: made it through to the to the quarterfinals. Course different

801
00:43:28,947 --> 00:43:32,507
Speaker 2: this year, only eleven teams only a top six will

802
00:43:32,587 --> 00:43:34,867
Speaker 2: go through to the playoffs which have been rejinked, and

803
00:43:34,907 --> 00:43:37,187
Speaker 2: we can obviously talk more about that as the season

804
00:43:37,227 --> 00:43:39,427
Speaker 2: goes on. But whine A Pacific A head coach Tana

805
00:43:39,587 --> 00:43:41,987
Speaker 2: Umaga is with us a ton of thanks for joining

806
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Speaker 2: us on weekend sport. First of all, have you arrived

807
00:43:45,307 --> 00:43:47,667
Speaker 2: at the start line or thereabouts of Super Rugby with

808
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Speaker 2: with a fully fit squad after a couple of preseason outings.

809
00:43:51,987 --> 00:43:53,547
Speaker 3: Yeah, how's it going, Jason?

810
00:43:54,547 --> 00:43:54,787
Speaker 7: We have.

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Speaker 3: Actually, it's been pleasing, to be honest. You know, I

812
00:43:59,267 --> 00:44:04,347
Speaker 3: think one of my pet fears obviously in the preseason

813
00:44:04,507 --> 00:44:08,907
Speaker 3: is just getting injuries, and we've we haven't done too

814
00:44:08,947 --> 00:44:11,747
Speaker 3: bad apart from just yesterday against the Chiefs we lost

815
00:44:13,187 --> 00:44:17,707
Speaker 3: Nico Jones, so that could be a little bit concerning

816
00:44:18,027 --> 00:44:18,667
Speaker 3: going forward.

817
00:44:19,627 --> 00:44:23,187
Speaker 2: Is that Are we talking weeks here for Nico?

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00:44:24,827 --> 00:44:25,027
Speaker 10: Yeah?

819
00:44:25,067 --> 00:44:28,147
Speaker 3: I think so. Look what I haven't had the final report,

820
00:44:28,307 --> 00:44:30,427
Speaker 3: but it didn't look at yet a bit of an

821
00:44:30,907 --> 00:44:35,547
Speaker 3: elbow injury and it had to come straight off the game,

822
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Speaker 3: off the field, and he was in a sling at

823
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Speaker 3: the end of the game and had to go to

824
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Speaker 3: hospital for scans. So yeah, yeah, hopefully I need more

825
00:44:46,747 --> 00:44:48,187
Speaker 3: about that today than tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: All right, we'll keep our fingers crossed for him. Other

827
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Speaker 2: than that, in terms of the way your team's played

828
00:44:53,707 --> 00:44:55,467
Speaker 2: in the couple of preseason games you've had, as you

829
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Speaker 2: look ahead to your first couple of matches over the Tasman,

830
00:44:58,947 --> 00:45:01,187
Speaker 2: are you happy with the way your side is looking

831
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Speaker 2: on the field.

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Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, I am. Actually, you know, I think we've

833
00:45:07,147 --> 00:45:11,387
Speaker 3: improved in terms of our overall fitness from last year,

834
00:45:11,467 --> 00:45:15,827
Speaker 3: but also just our execution about what we're trying to do.

835
00:45:16,907 --> 00:45:19,747
Speaker 3: I can see these a little bit more understanding around things,

836
00:45:21,187 --> 00:45:24,267
Speaker 3: and you know, obviously when you're fitter and you're organized,

837
00:45:25,947 --> 00:45:27,827
Speaker 3: makes the game a little bit easier. But you know,

838
00:45:29,307 --> 00:45:32,147
Speaker 3: as we know, pre seasons not a precursor for what

839
00:45:32,227 --> 00:45:35,467
Speaker 3: happens in the during the season. So you know, we've

840
00:45:35,507 --> 00:45:37,347
Speaker 3: got a bit of a hard gig going away to

841
00:45:38,627 --> 00:45:42,347
Speaker 3: person the heat. So it's actually been good training and

842
00:45:42,587 --> 00:45:46,147
Speaker 3: playing and Orphan at the moment because long May the

843
00:45:46,267 --> 00:45:48,907
Speaker 3: summer half, not just.

844
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Speaker 2: In Auckland, right around the country. Has it also helped

845
00:45:52,907 --> 00:45:54,507
Speaker 2: you think kind of that You've you've got a pretty

846
00:45:54,507 --> 00:45:56,947
Speaker 2: strong core of players back from twenty twenty.

847
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Speaker 6: Four, Oh totally totally, and.

848
00:46:02,427 --> 00:46:06,707
Speaker 3: You know those players have come back motivated and again

849
00:46:06,827 --> 00:46:09,667
Speaker 3: come back and good Nick. You know we've had I've

850
00:46:09,667 --> 00:46:12,827
Speaker 3: got a few plans that have on their way back

851
00:46:12,867 --> 00:46:14,587
Speaker 3: from injury. So I haven't paid a lot of rugby

852
00:46:14,707 --> 00:46:18,227
Speaker 3: leading up to this season, but they've got two good

853
00:46:18,267 --> 00:46:24,187
Speaker 3: hitouts under their belts, you know, And so yeah, I

854
00:46:24,307 --> 00:46:26,947
Speaker 3: think very much. So you know, that group of core

855
00:46:27,467 --> 00:46:32,507
Speaker 3: experienced plans, which is what we need, and leadership I

856
00:46:32,587 --> 00:46:35,507
Speaker 3: think is a big thing for us on field leadership

857
00:46:35,587 --> 00:46:39,667
Speaker 3: and obviously having an Ardie Savi return coming to play

858
00:46:39,707 --> 00:46:44,027
Speaker 3: for us now you know that we improve in that

859
00:46:44,187 --> 00:46:45,027
Speaker 3: area immensely.

860
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Speaker 2: How noticeable has Adie Save's influence been on your team?

861
00:46:50,907 --> 00:46:58,507
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, very noticeable, even you know, he only played

862
00:46:58,587 --> 00:47:05,267
Speaker 3: fifteen minutes yesterday and you know, you could just see

863
00:47:06,627 --> 00:47:11,747
Speaker 3: the players lift around him. You know, he just gives

864
00:47:11,827 --> 00:47:15,227
Speaker 3: people confidence and obviously that's a big you know that

865
00:47:15,387 --> 00:47:18,987
Speaker 3: obviously comes with his his abilities, but also comes with

866
00:47:19,067 --> 00:47:20,947
Speaker 3: a bit of pressure on him too. And if he

867
00:47:21,147 --> 00:47:26,067
Speaker 3: understands that, you know, he just goes around and does

868
00:47:26,147 --> 00:47:28,747
Speaker 3: his business and plays the game that he wants to play.

869
00:47:29,387 --> 00:47:31,387
Speaker 3: And I think the players just get him behind that

870
00:47:32,427 --> 00:47:37,667
Speaker 3: and also that's that's kind of art his style too.

871
00:47:37,747 --> 00:47:40,627
Speaker 3: You know, he said at our first meeting that he's

872
00:47:40,667 --> 00:47:46,467
Speaker 3: here in their respect first, and you know, he's everything

873
00:47:46,547 --> 00:47:49,267
Speaker 3: he does, whether it's on the field off the field.

874
00:47:50,867 --> 00:47:55,267
Speaker 3: I think, you know, he's really got these guys behind him,

875
00:47:55,627 --> 00:47:57,827
Speaker 3: and you know, he doesn't have to do much. You know,

876
00:47:58,067 --> 00:48:02,627
Speaker 3: obviously his reputation precedes him when he comes here. But

877
00:48:03,067 --> 00:48:04,907
Speaker 3: I think now that they're with him, you know, I

878
00:48:04,947 --> 00:48:06,987
Speaker 3: can see a lot more players talk to him now.

879
00:48:07,107 --> 00:48:09,347
Speaker 3: I think there was a little bit of you know,

880
00:48:09,387 --> 00:48:15,387
Speaker 3: a little bit nervous talking to legends. Pretty funny, yeah, exactly,

881
00:48:17,467 --> 00:48:20,387
Speaker 3: but no, no, look, he's made an impact, you know,

882
00:48:21,227 --> 00:48:22,227
Speaker 3: as soon as he got here.

883
00:48:22,427 --> 00:48:23,067
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love that.

884
00:48:23,187 --> 00:48:23,587
Speaker 6: I love that.

885
00:48:23,707 --> 00:48:26,227
Speaker 2: I can imagine there be a few nervous, nervous young men,

886
00:48:26,307 --> 00:48:28,467
Speaker 2: but great to know that they're starting to have a

887
00:48:28,587 --> 00:48:31,147
Speaker 2: chat with with Ardie. Now there has been talked to her.

888
00:48:31,187 --> 00:48:32,907
Speaker 2: I'm sure you've heard it of other New Zealand players

889
00:48:32,947 --> 00:48:35,907
Speaker 2: following his lead and joining me one to PACIFICA. Is

890
00:48:35,987 --> 00:48:38,827
Speaker 2: that something that you will actively try to make happen.

891
00:48:40,867 --> 00:48:43,987
Speaker 3: Look, well, we're here to make our program better and

892
00:48:45,187 --> 00:48:50,067
Speaker 3: you know, if you know other players that play alongside

893
00:48:50,147 --> 00:48:54,347
Speaker 3: the ARDI and for their countries, then would be silly

894
00:48:54,467 --> 00:48:58,547
Speaker 3: not to. You know, it's, as we've seen with Ardie,

895
00:48:58,547 --> 00:49:01,187
Speaker 3: when you've got the color of player like that coming in,

896
00:49:01,307 --> 00:49:04,587
Speaker 3: it just lifts everybody. And that's what we're about. You know,

897
00:49:04,667 --> 00:49:06,987
Speaker 3: we want to uplift our players around them. You know,

898
00:49:07,027 --> 00:49:09,587
Speaker 3: we can't have a team full of them because we

899
00:49:09,627 --> 00:49:12,627
Speaker 3: don't afford it. But you know, if we can pick

900
00:49:12,747 --> 00:49:16,667
Speaker 3: ones that we know will approve the program and lift

901
00:49:16,707 --> 00:49:19,387
Speaker 3: those around them, you know, not just with their play,

902
00:49:19,467 --> 00:49:22,107
Speaker 3: but with their off field leadership as well, you know,

903
00:49:22,227 --> 00:49:26,747
Speaker 3: then we're definitely interested. And yeah, I think it would

904
00:49:26,747 --> 00:49:28,147
Speaker 3: be silly for us not to look into that.

905
00:49:28,787 --> 00:49:31,627
Speaker 2: You start the season, as you say, with away trip

906
00:49:32,227 --> 00:49:34,947
Speaker 2: the Force, then the Reds. Presumably you'll stay in Australia

907
00:49:34,987 --> 00:49:37,187
Speaker 2: between games. So will that be a good thing for

908
00:49:37,387 --> 00:49:39,627
Speaker 2: solidifying the sides together aess early in the season.

909
00:49:41,347 --> 00:49:44,467
Speaker 3: Well, touring is always great for doing that.

910
00:49:44,707 --> 00:49:44,827
Speaker 1: You know.

911
00:49:44,907 --> 00:49:47,187
Speaker 3: The sad things we can't take a whole squad with us,

912
00:49:47,427 --> 00:49:50,267
Speaker 3: so you know we're still going to be leaving a

913
00:49:50,387 --> 00:49:52,787
Speaker 3: group of us behind. And you're right, we are staying

914
00:49:52,867 --> 00:49:58,507
Speaker 3: over there for our two game Australian tour and it

915
00:49:58,667 --> 00:50:02,987
Speaker 3: just makes sense as well. But yeah, I look that

916
00:50:03,107 --> 00:50:05,507
Speaker 3: group that does get to go, they're fortunate enough that

917
00:50:05,667 --> 00:50:08,467
Speaker 3: you know, will be within that squad that takes care

918
00:50:08,467 --> 00:50:11,627
Speaker 3: of those first two games, and we'll be doing a

919
00:50:11,707 --> 00:50:14,867
Speaker 3: lot to grow our connections. And that's been a big

920
00:50:14,947 --> 00:50:17,507
Speaker 3: part of our pre season two. It's just growing those

921
00:50:17,587 --> 00:50:21,427
Speaker 3: connections within our players and understanding that everyone's got a role,

922
00:50:21,467 --> 00:50:24,827
Speaker 3: whether you get to play or you don't get to play,

923
00:50:24,987 --> 00:50:27,827
Speaker 3: and how we can make sure that we're helping each other,

924
00:50:28,187 --> 00:50:31,107
Speaker 3: you know, achieve what we want to achieve as a group.

925
00:50:31,747 --> 00:50:34,387
Speaker 2: You won four games last season, six or seven would

926
00:50:34,427 --> 00:50:38,507
Speaker 2: get you into the playoff conversation? Is that something you

927
00:50:38,627 --> 00:50:40,707
Speaker 2: talk about, Tanna? Do you talk about the number of

928
00:50:40,827 --> 00:50:44,267
Speaker 2: wins or is it really just performance and the results

929
00:50:44,307 --> 00:50:45,347
Speaker 2: will take care of themselves.

930
00:50:47,587 --> 00:50:51,107
Speaker 3: Oh, look, we don't talk about that to everybody. You know,

931
00:50:51,187 --> 00:50:56,707
Speaker 3: we kind of know the know the equations of what

932
00:50:56,827 --> 00:51:00,227
Speaker 3: we need to get to the finals forty and obviously

933
00:51:00,307 --> 00:51:01,147
Speaker 3: that's where we want to be.

934
00:51:02,067 --> 00:51:02,547
Speaker 6: We talked.

935
00:51:02,987 --> 00:51:06,267
Speaker 3: I think you have to talk about it. The problem

936
00:51:06,467 --> 00:51:08,907
Speaker 3: problem is everyone's talking about and every team's got the

937
00:51:08,947 --> 00:51:10,747
Speaker 3: same goal. You know, we all want to be in

938
00:51:10,867 --> 00:51:13,787
Speaker 3: their final six. And then then it comes down to

939
00:51:13,867 --> 00:51:16,107
Speaker 3: what you talked about. You know, just our performances and

940
00:51:16,147 --> 00:51:18,587
Speaker 3: the results will take care of themselves. But you know,

941
00:51:19,067 --> 00:51:20,747
Speaker 3: we have to make sure that we've got a goal.

942
00:51:20,947 --> 00:51:23,987
Speaker 3: Our goal is to be successful, you know, as everybody is.

943
00:51:24,067 --> 00:51:26,027
Speaker 3: We want to get to the to the top six.

944
00:51:26,147 --> 00:51:28,907
Speaker 3: Once you get there, you know, things will take care

945
00:51:28,907 --> 00:51:32,027
Speaker 3: of themselves. But you know, we want to improve from

946
00:51:32,107 --> 00:51:34,227
Speaker 3: last year. We know we've got a long way to

947
00:51:34,307 --> 00:51:36,787
Speaker 3: go to do that, and we just got to work

948
00:51:36,787 --> 00:51:39,187
Speaker 3: away and put our heads down and think. You know,

949
00:51:39,267 --> 00:51:41,507
Speaker 3: that's something that we get from ADI as well as that.

950
00:51:41,747 --> 00:51:42,907
Speaker 12: You know, look, our.

951
00:51:42,907 --> 00:51:46,667
Speaker 3: Talking, we have to let our actions do the talking

952
00:51:46,787 --> 00:51:49,867
Speaker 3: for us because you know, words alone won't get us

953
00:51:49,867 --> 00:51:50,667
Speaker 3: to where we want to get to.

954
00:51:51,507 --> 00:51:53,627
Speaker 2: And just to finish, Tony, You've done plenty in your

955
00:51:53,707 --> 00:51:56,067
Speaker 2: rug Big career, both as a player and as a coach.

956
00:51:56,547 --> 00:51:59,027
Speaker 2: Where does coaching Moana Pacifica sit for you?

957
00:52:03,427 --> 00:52:03,627
Speaker 10: Yeah?

958
00:52:03,747 --> 00:52:06,787
Speaker 3: No, I think it's for me at the moment, it's right. Yeah,

959
00:52:07,907 --> 00:52:11,667
Speaker 3: obviously I have a connection, a real passion to help

960
00:52:12,747 --> 00:52:17,747
Speaker 3: the specific people I feel, you know, I feel a

961
00:52:17,787 --> 00:52:21,827
Speaker 3: real strong purpose connected to this franchise, to this club

962
00:52:22,907 --> 00:52:29,787
Speaker 3: and to my people. So you know, yeah, look it's

963
00:52:29,827 --> 00:52:32,787
Speaker 3: a tough one for some but you know, I really

964
00:52:33,267 --> 00:52:36,827
Speaker 3: love what I do. I enjoy getting up every morning

965
00:52:36,947 --> 00:52:41,227
Speaker 3: to go to work, and I love what we're doing,

966
00:52:41,267 --> 00:52:44,347
Speaker 3: and I see things happen every day, you know, the

967
00:52:44,467 --> 00:52:49,187
Speaker 3: improvements on players, just little things, the improvements and even

968
00:52:49,267 --> 00:52:51,987
Speaker 3: and within our staff and helping them achieve what they

969
00:52:52,067 --> 00:52:52,667
Speaker 3: want to achieve.

970
00:52:52,747 --> 00:52:52,907
Speaker 5: You know.

971
00:52:53,027 --> 00:52:56,827
Speaker 3: That's yeah. Look, I think this is probably, you know,

972
00:52:56,947 --> 00:52:58,987
Speaker 3: one of the top things I've done, probably in my

973
00:52:59,107 --> 00:53:00,787
Speaker 3: life to be honest, brilliant.

974
00:53:01,067 --> 00:53:02,987
Speaker 2: Wish you all the best parents, Well there is that,

975
00:53:03,107 --> 00:53:05,467
Speaker 2: so yeah, good safe, good sighte ye're good? Save good

976
00:53:05,547 --> 00:53:08,227
Speaker 2: save at the end of what's she all the best

977
00:53:08,267 --> 00:53:10,547
Speaker 2: mate for twenty twenty five, travel safe to Australia and

978
00:53:10,627 --> 00:53:12,107
Speaker 2: look forward to catching up throughout the season.

979
00:53:13,267 --> 00:53:14,627
Speaker 3: I appreciate talking to you, Jase.

980
00:53:14,747 --> 00:53:15,227
Speaker 6: You take care.

981
00:53:15,587 --> 00:53:18,027
Speaker 2: You take care too, Tana. Thanks indeed, Tana Umonga there

982
00:53:18,387 --> 00:53:22,787
Speaker 2: who else head coach of Mawana Pacifica. What a quality

983
00:53:22,947 --> 00:53:26,787
Speaker 2: human being he is, Tana, as I was just chatting

984
00:53:26,827 --> 00:53:28,947
Speaker 2: to him then, just you remember how good a player

985
00:53:29,027 --> 00:53:32,787
Speaker 2: he was and you know, moving into coaching. It didn't

986
00:53:32,827 --> 00:53:34,307
Speaker 2: work out, I'm sure, as he would have hoped that

987
00:53:34,347 --> 00:53:37,267
Speaker 2: the Blues, but my wanna Pacifica it just seems like

988
00:53:37,387 --> 00:53:40,707
Speaker 2: the right fit, doesn't it to have a guy like

989
00:53:40,827 --> 00:53:45,107
Speaker 2: tana Umanga there? How big is Ardie Savia to Mouna

990
00:53:45,147 --> 00:53:47,667
Speaker 2: pacifica that is I guess going to play out on

991
00:53:47,707 --> 00:53:50,547
Speaker 2: the field. Look, one guy isn't going to turn them

992
00:53:50,587 --> 00:53:53,707
Speaker 2: into a championship team, but you can hear they're from

993
00:53:53,787 --> 00:53:56,347
Speaker 2: the way tana Umunga talks about Artie Savia inside that

994
00:53:56,507 --> 00:53:58,747
Speaker 2: environment and all of the stuff that I've heard coming

995
00:53:58,747 --> 00:54:00,827
Speaker 2: out of that campus that he just makes everybody around

996
00:54:00,907 --> 00:54:02,667
Speaker 2: him better and he does that on any team he

997
00:54:02,747 --> 00:54:04,547
Speaker 2: plays for. He was the same at the Hurricanes, same

998
00:54:04,627 --> 00:54:07,987
Speaker 2: in the All Blacks. Savez and your team, you, I mean,

999
00:54:08,667 --> 00:54:10,387
Speaker 2: you just want to be as good as you can

1000
00:54:10,947 --> 00:54:15,147
Speaker 2: for him. That's the kind of aura that he has.

1001
00:54:15,747 --> 00:54:17,827
Speaker 2: Will he be able to lift them into playoff contention?

1002
00:54:17,987 --> 00:54:20,907
Speaker 2: That is an entirely different conversation. You might have a view,

1003
00:54:21,507 --> 00:54:23,787
Speaker 2: oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty. As always, our lines

1004
00:54:23,827 --> 00:54:27,107
Speaker 2: are open. We're taking texts as well on what you

1005
00:54:27,347 --> 00:54:29,627
Speaker 2: perceive the finishing order to be of the New Zealand

1006
00:54:29,667 --> 00:54:31,987
Speaker 2: teams this year. This is the last time we'll speak

1007
00:54:32,027 --> 00:54:34,627
Speaker 2: on Weekend Sport before the season gets underwat So everybody's

1008
00:54:34,667 --> 00:54:37,107
Speaker 2: on zero at the moment. Nine two ninety two is

1009
00:54:37,147 --> 00:54:39,827
Speaker 2: our text line if you'd like to predict the finishing

1010
00:54:39,987 --> 00:54:42,667
Speaker 2: order of the of the New Zealand teams, including Mona

1011
00:54:42,707 --> 00:54:46,707
Speaker 2: PACIFICA nine two ninety two. As far as the Mona

1012
00:54:46,707 --> 00:54:49,427
Speaker 2: Pacific side is concerned, they are away. As I mentioned

1013
00:54:50,067 --> 00:54:52,827
Speaker 2: during that chat with Tannhumunga. They take on the Western

1014
00:54:52,987 --> 00:54:56,787
Speaker 2: Force first up away next weekend, so they're all over

1015
00:54:56,867 --> 00:54:59,267
Speaker 2: to Perth for that one. Then they will stay in

1016
00:54:59,547 --> 00:55:03,067
Speaker 2: Australia and take on the Reds the following week, so

1017
00:55:03,227 --> 00:55:06,747
Speaker 2: two games away from home and away from New Zeeland

1018
00:55:07,267 --> 00:55:10,467
Speaker 2: to start things off for more Warner PACIFICA, and then

1019
00:55:10,747 --> 00:55:12,827
Speaker 2: back home for a couple of games. Now home now

1020
00:55:12,907 --> 00:55:15,067
Speaker 2: for the team. Also, this has been I guess a

1021
00:55:15,147 --> 00:55:19,227
Speaker 2: point of contention. You might say North Harbor Stadium is

1022
00:55:19,347 --> 00:55:24,267
Speaker 2: now home for Wuner PACIFICA. They've previously played games at

1023
00:55:24,627 --> 00:55:29,027
Speaker 2: Go Media Stadium, but North Harbor. I don't know whether

1024
00:55:29,067 --> 00:55:33,347
Speaker 2: that will affect the crowds they get. I get the

1025
00:55:33,387 --> 00:55:35,747
Speaker 2: feeling if they start winning games that the crowds will

1026
00:55:35,787 --> 00:55:38,707
Speaker 2: turn up. But they've been based there in terms of

1027
00:55:38,747 --> 00:55:43,507
Speaker 2: their administrative and high performance training operations since late twenty

1028
00:55:43,587 --> 00:55:46,507
Speaker 2: twenty three, so it kind of makes sense to play

1029
00:55:46,587 --> 00:55:49,387
Speaker 2: their home games there as well. Having said that, though

1030
00:55:49,427 --> 00:55:51,587
Speaker 2: Auckland FC, the football team are also based at North

1031
00:55:51,627 --> 00:55:53,467
Speaker 2: Harbor and they played their games at Mount Smart anyway,

1032
00:55:54,067 --> 00:55:57,827
Speaker 2: North Harbor and Auckland venues and WNA Pacifica have clearly

1033
00:55:57,907 --> 00:56:00,787
Speaker 2: come to an arrangement so to watch Morener Pacifica this

1034
00:56:00,907 --> 00:56:02,547
Speaker 2: year at home it will be at North Harbor Stadium.

1035
00:56:03,667 --> 00:56:07,547
Speaker 2: Four wins last year, the one in twenty twenty three

1036
00:56:07,747 --> 00:56:10,507
Speaker 2: and a couple in twenty twenty two, so seven wins

1037
00:56:10,987 --> 00:56:15,267
Speaker 2: across their three seasons. Again, listening to Tana, I just

1038
00:56:15,387 --> 00:56:18,307
Speaker 2: want good things to happen for that site. It just

1039
00:56:18,387 --> 00:56:22,467
Speaker 2: seems like such a figurehead and such a good man

1040
00:56:22,667 --> 00:56:27,067
Speaker 2: with the with the deep intent of improving rugby for

1041
00:56:28,427 --> 00:56:31,147
Speaker 2: Tongan and Somn players, because that's what that that's what

1042
00:56:31,267 --> 00:56:33,867
Speaker 2: this franchise is for. Yes, they want to win Super

1043
00:56:33,907 --> 00:56:36,107
Speaker 2: Rugby matches and yes the likes of Ardie Savier and

1044
00:56:36,227 --> 00:56:38,507
Speaker 2: others in the future will help with that, but at

1045
00:56:38,507 --> 00:56:41,947
Speaker 2: the heart of their existence and their reason for being

1046
00:56:42,107 --> 00:56:45,467
Speaker 2: is the development of of rugby players from the Pacific region.

1047
00:56:46,187 --> 00:56:49,747
Speaker 2: That's what they're all about. Oh, eight hundred and eighty

1048
00:56:49,787 --> 00:56:52,667
Speaker 2: ten eighties O number nine two ninety two. If you

1049
00:56:52,707 --> 00:56:55,227
Speaker 2: would like to send a text text here I can

1050
00:56:55,227 --> 00:56:59,747
Speaker 2: see Patrick Twee pilot to moving to Muwaita PACIFICA. Maybe

1051
00:56:59,827 --> 00:57:03,867
Speaker 2: Boden Barrett as well. Yeah, Bodenbarrass made some interesting comments

1052
00:57:03,867 --> 00:57:05,627
Speaker 2: in the last week. Isn't he about Japanese sites coming

1053
00:57:05,627 --> 00:57:08,667
Speaker 2: into the competition as well? Look, I feel as though

1054
00:57:09,267 --> 00:57:13,667
Speaker 2: Artie Savia is the best possible first guy to do

1055
00:57:13,787 --> 00:57:16,027
Speaker 2: it at the moment. We mentioned this on the show

1056
00:57:16,067 --> 00:57:19,467
Speaker 2: yesterday that at the moment, under the competition rules, Morena

1057
00:57:19,507 --> 00:57:24,147
Speaker 2: Pacifica can have three players three New Zealand rugby contracted

1058
00:57:24,187 --> 00:57:26,787
Speaker 2: players if you like three who are all blacks eligible,

1059
00:57:27,987 --> 00:57:31,307
Speaker 2: just the three And that feels right when you go

1060
00:57:31,427 --> 00:57:33,107
Speaker 2: back to what I just said about the reason for

1061
00:57:33,187 --> 00:57:36,547
Speaker 2: being the developing of players from the Pacific. But if

1062
00:57:36,587 --> 00:57:38,907
Speaker 2: they are going to improve and be competitive, which we

1063
00:57:38,987 --> 00:57:42,827
Speaker 2: all want, then you know, if I'm them, I'm trying

1064
00:57:42,867 --> 00:57:45,827
Speaker 2: to find two others. And if Artie's there, what are

1065
00:57:45,907 --> 00:57:49,707
Speaker 2: selling point? Come and play your rugby with Artie Savia

1066
00:57:50,947 --> 00:57:53,587
Speaker 2: one twenty three Back in a moment here on News Talks,

1067
00:57:53,627 --> 00:57:55,347
Speaker 2: there'll be lines open oh, eight hundred and eighty ten

1068
00:57:55,427 --> 00:57:57,267
Speaker 2: eighty or via text on nineteen ninet two.

1069
00:57:57,867 --> 00:58:01,227
Speaker 1: It's more than just a game Weekends for It with

1070
00:58:01,467 --> 00:58:05,067
Speaker 1: Jason Fine and GJ. Gunnomes, New Zealand's most.

1071
00:58:04,947 --> 00:58:10,587
Speaker 2: Trusted home builder, Newsky one twenty six Enjoying our little

1072
00:58:10,747 --> 00:58:14,587
Speaker 2: journey around the New Zealand based super rugby franchises. This afternoon,

1073
00:58:15,267 --> 00:58:16,987
Speaker 2: we've landed in the Hurricanes country.

1074
00:58:17,267 --> 00:58:23,067
Speaker 6: Cameron the Craw twenty five thousand, obeying for blood, obeying

1075
00:58:23,147 --> 00:58:23,627
Speaker 6: for a miss.

1076
00:58:23,907 --> 00:58:25,427
Speaker 3: He hooked the last one to the left.

1077
00:58:25,587 --> 00:58:27,387
Speaker 6: Yeah, show yourself and Gloriou Sun, did you get this

1078
00:58:27,467 --> 00:58:30,147
Speaker 6: one over? Well, it's a hero or a zero kick.

1079
00:58:30,947 --> 00:58:32,227
Speaker 6: He steps in, he.

1080
00:58:32,347 --> 00:58:33,507
Speaker 3: Hits them with the right foot.

1081
00:58:33,787 --> 00:58:38,667
Speaker 8: Peace put it over at twenty points to seven eight

1082
00:58:39,147 --> 00:58:41,227
Speaker 8: in the Hurricanes and won it for death.

1083
00:58:42,107 --> 00:58:45,227
Speaker 2: Hurricanes head coach Clarke laid Law is with us. Clark,

1084
00:58:45,227 --> 00:58:47,827
Speaker 2: you wrapped up your preseason preparation with one over the

1085
00:58:47,867 --> 00:58:50,627
Speaker 2: Blues in wan Uyamata on Friday. How do you feel

1086
00:58:50,667 --> 00:58:53,627
Speaker 2: you're placed heading into twenty twenty five in general terms?

1087
00:58:53,627 --> 00:58:55,107
Speaker 2: First of all, yeah, it.

1088
00:58:55,147 --> 00:58:56,987
Speaker 13: Was nice to finish off, as you say, preseason of

1089
00:58:57,027 --> 00:59:00,667
Speaker 13: and Y Nui and it was a great day, you know,

1090
00:59:00,867 --> 00:59:02,987
Speaker 13: the community and then you know the amount of people

1091
00:59:03,027 --> 00:59:06,227
Speaker 13: that came out and watched, and yeah, we really enjoyed

1092
00:59:06,507 --> 00:59:10,027
Speaker 13: this sort of afternoon across there. So yeah, preseasons. I

1093
00:59:10,067 --> 00:59:12,147
Speaker 13: guess it's pre season, isn't it. You know, we feel

1094
00:59:12,187 --> 00:59:17,267
Speaker 13: pre organized. We've really enjoyed demand sort of application since

1095
00:59:17,587 --> 00:59:21,547
Speaker 13: you know, then in November started December, it's been slightly different,

1096
00:59:21,547 --> 00:59:24,947
Speaker 13: I guess around you know, with all Blacks coming back

1097
00:59:25,067 --> 00:59:28,027
Speaker 13: later All Black fifteen to two, which you know, ment

1098
00:59:28,067 --> 00:59:31,307
Speaker 13: guys started at different times. So so yeah, we Fuerey.

1099
00:59:31,307 --> 00:59:34,347
Speaker 13: We sort of navigated that part reasonably well, and you know,

1100
00:59:34,467 --> 00:59:38,147
Speaker 13: trying to get our consistency now of of preparation with

1101
00:59:38,227 --> 00:59:41,147
Speaker 13: the full squad ins. You know, the next step isn't

1102
00:59:41,147 --> 00:59:42,507
Speaker 13: it to be ready for Friday night.

1103
00:59:43,187 --> 00:59:45,347
Speaker 2: Let's talk about some positions. The key one a guest

1104
00:59:45,387 --> 00:59:47,667
Speaker 2: first five for you, Brick Cameron had a brilliant season

1105
00:59:47,987 --> 00:59:49,907
Speaker 2: at first five and twenty twenty four, he's picked up

1106
00:59:49,907 --> 00:59:52,307
Speaker 2: a long him injury that Idan Morgan's gone off show.

1107
00:59:52,427 --> 00:59:53,947
Speaker 2: So how are you placed in the team, Jersey.

1108
00:59:55,827 --> 00:59:59,027
Speaker 13: Yeah, it's you know, for the most part, we still

1109
00:59:59,027 --> 01:00:01,347
Speaker 13: feel really excited around the players. We've got you know

1110
01:00:01,387 --> 01:00:06,747
Speaker 13: you've got young Harry Godfrey, Riley Copa, we're both play there,

1111
01:00:06,827 --> 01:00:10,147
Speaker 13: but Calm Harkin in his injury recover and injury cover

1112
01:00:11,307 --> 01:00:12,507
Speaker 13: and obviously Ruben once.

1113
01:00:12,387 --> 01:00:13,867
Speaker 12: He's back and can play ten.

1114
01:00:14,107 --> 01:00:17,227
Speaker 13: So you know, as you say, to lose a couple

1115
01:00:17,227 --> 01:00:20,827
Speaker 13: of players like we did, you know, once Ruben's back

1116
01:00:21,627 --> 01:00:25,187
Speaker 13: with the guys I mentioned, it still feels it feels

1117
01:00:25,227 --> 01:00:25,987
Speaker 13: like we're strong there.

1118
01:00:26,107 --> 01:00:29,227
Speaker 12: It does. It's a big selection around. Yeah, it gets

1119
01:00:29,307 --> 01:00:29,827
Speaker 12: first cracked.

1120
01:00:29,867 --> 01:00:33,347
Speaker 13: I think you know, both Harry and Riley have played

1121
01:00:33,427 --> 01:00:35,707
Speaker 13: well in the two weeks but have trained well. You know,

1122
01:00:35,907 --> 01:00:37,907
Speaker 13: it's not just you know obviously the trial games, it's

1123
01:00:38,867 --> 01:00:39,147
Speaker 13: it's what.

1124
01:00:39,147 --> 01:00:39,907
Speaker 12: They're doing every day.

1125
01:00:39,947 --> 01:00:42,547
Speaker 13: So we'll have a good look at the game and yeah,

1126
01:00:42,587 --> 01:00:45,027
Speaker 13: we'll pick the team tomorrow over the next couple of

1127
01:00:45,107 --> 01:00:46,987
Speaker 13: days and you get into it with them.

1128
01:00:47,347 --> 01:00:50,347
Speaker 2: So just on Rubens. So he's an option at first

1129
01:00:50,467 --> 01:00:52,387
Speaker 2: five when he comes back, or are you talking about

1130
01:00:52,427 --> 01:00:53,987
Speaker 2: him going going to fall back, freeing up someone like

1131
01:00:54,067 --> 01:00:57,467
Speaker 2: Harry Godfrey or could Ruben love with the team Jersey,

1132
01:00:57,547 --> 01:00:58,467
Speaker 2: I guess is what I'm asking.

1133
01:00:59,267 --> 01:01:01,987
Speaker 13: Yeah, either either and short answer, yes, you know he's

1134
01:01:01,987 --> 01:01:04,667
Speaker 13: put a lot at ten, but we have noticed with

1135
01:01:04,867 --> 01:01:09,187
Speaker 13: Rubin coming back this year, feels like, yeah, he's really

1136
01:01:09,227 --> 01:01:13,347
Speaker 13: start to mature, really start to probably trust himself as

1137
01:01:13,467 --> 01:01:15,347
Speaker 13: as a young rugby player. You know, his opinions and

1138
01:01:15,467 --> 01:01:19,627
Speaker 13: his thoughts. He had an amazing year last year, obviously

1139
01:01:19,667 --> 01:01:22,867
Speaker 13: at throwback, but he did cover ten. You know, most

1140
01:01:22,947 --> 01:01:25,027
Speaker 13: weeks we didn't carry and I went out turning the bench.

1141
01:01:25,147 --> 01:01:27,827
Speaker 13: So he's had a lot of training reps there. So

1142
01:01:28,267 --> 01:01:31,107
Speaker 13: you know, if you'd been fitting healthy and and hadn't

1143
01:01:31,107 --> 01:01:32,507
Speaker 13: been in all blacks, it might have been a different

1144
01:01:32,507 --> 01:01:34,347
Speaker 13: picture as we led into the season. But you know

1145
01:01:34,387 --> 01:01:36,107
Speaker 13: he's going to start a bit later and find his

1146
01:01:36,187 --> 01:01:37,587
Speaker 13: way back in. But he's definitely an option.

1147
01:01:38,267 --> 01:01:40,707
Speaker 2: You only got five games had a camera guad last season.

1148
01:01:40,787 --> 01:01:43,627
Speaker 2: Five pretty good games died before he suffered that serious injury.

1149
01:01:43,987 --> 01:01:46,387
Speaker 2: Has said. Looking hitting into twenty twenty five.

1150
01:01:48,307 --> 01:01:49,987
Speaker 13: Yeah, he's one of those players. You know, if you

1151
01:01:50,067 --> 01:01:52,467
Speaker 13: watched him and Pierre Lackaye both played yesterday, they don't

1152
01:01:52,507 --> 01:01:55,067
Speaker 13: take long to get back up to speed. You know,

1153
01:01:55,107 --> 01:01:58,907
Speaker 13: he's super fit, he's really clear in his own game.

1154
01:01:58,947 --> 01:02:01,067
Speaker 13: He's super friends. He's here and he wants to improve.

1155
01:02:01,267 --> 01:02:04,587
Speaker 13: But yeah, we yeah, we were excited to see him

1156
01:02:04,587 --> 01:02:07,227
Speaker 13: in the field yesterday. He's standing to.

1157
01:02:07,227 --> 01:02:10,507
Speaker 12: Really lead, you know, with a they've departure of TJ.

1158
01:02:10,707 --> 01:02:13,067
Speaker 13: You know he has to step forward now and understand

1159
01:02:13,107 --> 01:02:16,027
Speaker 13: how he leads the men, and it leads from half

1160
01:02:16,067 --> 01:02:18,107
Speaker 13: park in his own area. So you know, again that's

1161
01:02:18,187 --> 01:02:20,907
Speaker 13: like another little evolution of his development and something he

1162
01:02:20,947 --> 01:02:22,627
Speaker 13: seems really up for one.

1163
01:02:22,507 --> 01:02:24,947
Speaker 2: Thing, you do have a lot of choice in one area.

1164
01:02:24,947 --> 01:02:27,467
Speaker 2: You've got a lot of choice. You lose forwards, Bread

1165
01:02:27,507 --> 01:02:29,707
Speaker 2: Shields paid a lot of duplessy if your brand in

1166
01:02:29,747 --> 01:02:33,827
Speaker 2: your site, David Flanders, you've headed our ec plico from Taranaki.

1167
01:02:34,347 --> 01:02:36,427
Speaker 2: How are you going to shuffle your your luses from

1168
01:02:36,427 --> 01:02:36,947
Speaker 2: week to wag.

1169
01:02:38,827 --> 01:02:41,507
Speaker 13: Yeah, they'll probably shuffle themselves, I guess with the body

1170
01:02:41,587 --> 01:02:44,707
Speaker 13: is the way they play, you know, they play with

1171
01:02:44,787 --> 01:02:47,747
Speaker 13: no regard for the body, all of them. So yeah,

1172
01:02:47,787 --> 01:02:50,467
Speaker 13: I'm sure it'll help fin out of times and we'll

1173
01:02:50,507 --> 01:02:52,987
Speaker 13: need them all and if we do have those issues

1174
01:02:53,027 --> 01:02:54,707
Speaker 13: then you know we can we can.

1175
01:02:54,667 --> 01:02:55,307
Speaker 12: Mix and match.

1176
01:02:55,547 --> 01:02:57,187
Speaker 13: It's quite often around as we can cover on the

1177
01:02:57,227 --> 01:02:59,907
Speaker 13: bench and then come on if you go a five

1178
01:02:59,987 --> 01:03:01,987
Speaker 13: three or six two, it can it can change it too.

1179
01:03:02,147 --> 01:03:05,787
Speaker 13: So see it's you know, as I say, we always well,

1180
01:03:05,787 --> 01:03:07,547
Speaker 13: always talking about these selection headaches.

1181
01:03:07,587 --> 01:03:09,867
Speaker 12: We very rarely get it. So if we do, I'll

1182
01:03:09,907 --> 01:03:12,507
Speaker 12: be I'll be happy with the Yeah, I guess.

1183
01:03:12,307 --> 01:03:14,187
Speaker 13: A little bit sleepless nights around who who fills the

1184
01:03:14,227 --> 01:03:15,467
Speaker 13: four spots in the twenty three.

1185
01:03:15,907 --> 01:03:18,147
Speaker 2: And you've lost a bit of experience you mentioned TJ.

1186
01:03:18,347 --> 01:03:21,427
Speaker 2: Pitanata departing, Jordy Barrett's and Ireland. Of course you didn't

1187
01:03:21,467 --> 01:03:24,187
Speaker 2: have Artie last year, but he's gone now to how

1188
01:03:24,227 --> 01:03:26,347
Speaker 2: do you feel that how do you fill that experience

1189
01:03:26,387 --> 01:03:28,467
Speaker 2: in that leadership void in the squad.

1190
01:03:29,747 --> 01:03:31,707
Speaker 13: He's got to grow them, haven't you. There's no shortcuts

1191
01:03:31,787 --> 01:03:36,547
Speaker 13: to experience in leadership. But you know, we've been working

1192
01:03:36,627 --> 01:03:40,867
Speaker 13: hard enough season around on field. How do we get

1193
01:03:40,867 --> 01:03:43,907
Speaker 13: the guys to really communicate well before things and during

1194
01:03:43,987 --> 01:03:46,467
Speaker 13: then after and how do you get them to lead

1195
01:03:46,507 --> 01:03:48,427
Speaker 13: to you know, in meetings or before meetings or after

1196
01:03:48,507 --> 01:03:52,467
Speaker 13: meetings into training. So yeah, it's been a fair bit

1197
01:03:52,507 --> 01:03:55,627
Speaker 13: of thought and in practice. And then you know, we

1198
01:03:55,707 --> 01:03:58,987
Speaker 13: do have some leaders that have captain their sides the

1199
01:03:59,187 --> 01:04:02,587
Speaker 13: lading areas, you know, right across the field really with

1200
01:04:02,707 --> 01:04:07,147
Speaker 13: Braid and Brad Dupes of all captain the side. Peter

1201
01:04:07,267 --> 01:04:11,867
Speaker 13: mana Jens and Billy of captain teams, So so they

1202
01:04:11,947 --> 01:04:13,827
Speaker 13: know what it's like to lead, but alimate it's actions,

1203
01:04:13,867 --> 01:04:15,427
Speaker 13: isn't it. You know, if they can all play well

1204
01:04:15,507 --> 01:04:18,747
Speaker 13: and you know game drivers around the tactics and the

1205
01:04:19,307 --> 01:04:20,867
Speaker 13: you know, the flow of the game, then they can

1206
01:04:20,947 --> 01:04:22,507
Speaker 13: lead that. Then you know there should be an.

1207
01:04:22,427 --> 01:04:25,067
Speaker 12: Affair to to build off.

1208
01:04:25,147 --> 01:04:27,187
Speaker 13: But yeah, it's definitely been something we've put a bit

1209
01:04:27,187 --> 01:04:28,187
Speaker 13: of working to have.

1210
01:04:28,307 --> 01:04:33,387
Speaker 2: You disorder on your captain Yep. When will it be announced?

1211
01:04:34,867 --> 01:04:37,227
Speaker 13: Ye, in the next few days. We're going to announce

1212
01:04:37,227 --> 01:04:39,987
Speaker 13: it to the team tomorrow. What we're going to do

1213
01:04:40,067 --> 01:04:44,947
Speaker 13: there is it quickly? Maybe a little bit, But that

1214
01:04:45,107 --> 01:04:47,667
Speaker 13: shared responsibility is definitely something we've been thinking a lot around.

1215
01:04:47,707 --> 01:04:50,987
Speaker 13: So how do we yeah, share the responsibility leading the

1216
01:04:51,027 --> 01:04:52,947
Speaker 13: team as well as grow each individual in their own

1217
01:04:52,987 --> 01:04:55,667
Speaker 13: game is something I've been really well, we've been really

1218
01:04:55,707 --> 01:05:00,547
Speaker 13: conscious of. You know, sometimes leaders end up looking after

1219
01:05:00,587 --> 01:05:03,587
Speaker 13: everybody else rather than themselves, so that's something as I say,

1220
01:05:03,587 --> 01:05:07,227
Speaker 13: I'm really conscious of how we how we get that balance.

1221
01:05:08,387 --> 01:05:10,427
Speaker 12: And allowed the men to play really well at the same.

1222
01:05:10,347 --> 01:05:13,027
Speaker 2: Time, right and just to finish your top the regular

1223
01:05:13,067 --> 01:05:16,067
Speaker 2: season that latter last year before losing to the Chiefs

1224
01:05:16,667 --> 01:05:19,587
Speaker 2: in the semi finals. It was your first season as

1225
01:05:19,627 --> 01:05:21,947
Speaker 2: a Super rugby head coach. What were the biggest lessons

1226
01:05:22,347 --> 01:05:23,707
Speaker 2: you took out of twenty twenty four.

1227
01:05:26,707 --> 01:05:28,907
Speaker 13: Oh yeah, there was a lot, obviously, you say my

1228
01:05:28,947 --> 01:05:32,667
Speaker 13: first year, maybe a long listing phone call, but yeah,

1229
01:05:32,947 --> 01:05:36,227
Speaker 13: you got to you've got to try and really focus

1230
01:05:36,307 --> 01:05:38,427
Speaker 13: hard at the end of the year on keeping your

1231
01:05:38,467 --> 01:05:41,747
Speaker 13: game nice and simple and and really executing. You know,

1232
01:05:41,827 --> 01:05:45,867
Speaker 13: everything feels a little bit faster, each collision feels a

1233
01:05:45,867 --> 01:05:50,147
Speaker 13: little bit tougher, so making sure you were really clear

1234
01:05:50,187 --> 01:05:51,707
Speaker 13: on the game at the back end and we can

1235
01:05:51,787 --> 01:05:55,467
Speaker 13: execute under you know, under pressure. But you know, we

1236
01:05:56,507 --> 01:05:58,427
Speaker 13: we enjoyed your season last year. It'll be a different

1237
01:05:58,427 --> 01:05:59,907
Speaker 13: season this year. As I say, we're going to start

1238
01:05:59,947 --> 01:06:02,267
Speaker 13: slightly different, you know, with some big key with Derby's early,

1239
01:06:03,627 --> 01:06:05,307
Speaker 13: a few players you know, going to be a little

1240
01:06:05,307 --> 01:06:08,107
Speaker 13: bit later started. So you know, we get to that

1241
01:06:08,187 --> 01:06:11,627
Speaker 13: situation again and we're in playoffs. There's definitely things we

1242
01:06:11,707 --> 01:06:14,187
Speaker 13: looked at around a weekend of preparation and how we

1243
01:06:14,227 --> 01:06:14,707
Speaker 13: get that right.

1244
01:06:14,827 --> 01:06:16,547
Speaker 12: But yeah, we're gonna be good enough to get there.

1245
01:06:16,467 --> 01:06:19,627
Speaker 13: Again, I guess, So we're not looking too much further

1246
01:06:19,707 --> 01:06:22,547
Speaker 13: I had and then a big challenge down So next week.

1247
01:06:22,547 --> 01:06:26,307
Speaker 2: Yep, Crusaders to start. Exciting start for the Super Rugby competition.

1248
01:06:26,387 --> 01:06:28,507
Speaker 2: All the best, Clark for twenty twenty five, thanks for having.

1249
01:06:28,427 --> 01:06:30,347
Speaker 6: A chatte Thanks mate.

1250
01:06:30,387 --> 01:06:33,707
Speaker 2: That is Clarke Laidlaw, head coach of the Hurricanes, who open,

1251
01:06:33,907 --> 01:06:36,307
Speaker 2: as we all know, with the opening game of the

1252
01:06:36,347 --> 01:06:39,027
Speaker 2: competition Friday against the Crusaders down in christ j It's

1253
01:06:39,027 --> 01:06:42,267
Speaker 2: then there at home, although this game is in Napier

1254
01:06:42,627 --> 01:06:45,667
Speaker 2: against the Fiji and Drewer home to the Blues and

1255
01:06:45,747 --> 01:06:49,947
Speaker 2: away at Mona Pacifica. So yeah, some pretty interesting games

1256
01:06:49,987 --> 01:06:52,187
Speaker 2: there in the first month for Clark laid Law and

1257
01:06:52,347 --> 01:06:55,747
Speaker 2: his team last year. I don't think anybody expected if

1258
01:06:55,787 --> 01:06:58,907
Speaker 2: we were chatting a year ago. I don't think there

1259
01:06:58,947 --> 01:07:01,747
Speaker 2: were too many people who picked the Hurricanes to finish

1260
01:07:01,867 --> 01:07:06,187
Speaker 2: top of the regular season last year. But they did

1261
01:07:06,427 --> 01:07:09,267
Speaker 2: only lost a couple of games. They lost to the

1262
01:07:09,347 --> 01:07:13,067
Speaker 2: Brumbies and to the Blues. Those were the only two

1263
01:07:13,147 --> 01:07:16,787
Speaker 2: games they lost in the regular season. Got past the

1264
01:07:16,867 --> 01:07:19,387
Speaker 2: Rebels with no problem in the quarterfinal, but then came

1265
01:07:19,467 --> 01:07:21,427
Speaker 2: up against the Chief side at sky Stadium in the

1266
01:07:21,467 --> 01:07:24,627
Speaker 2: semis and you remember that was just an absolute breakout

1267
01:07:24,667 --> 01:07:28,147
Speaker 2: performance from Wallace a titi. I think we knew he

1268
01:07:28,387 --> 01:07:32,867
Speaker 2: was getting good during during the Super Rugby regular season

1269
01:07:32,907 --> 01:07:34,747
Speaker 2: in the back end of it last year, but that

1270
01:07:35,147 --> 01:07:38,867
Speaker 2: night at Sky Stadium he was just absolutely immense. In fact,

1271
01:07:38,907 --> 01:07:42,147
Speaker 2: he probably sealed his place in the All Blacks with

1272
01:07:42,227 --> 01:07:44,587
Speaker 2: that performance and so it all ended at the semi

1273
01:07:44,627 --> 01:07:48,067
Speaker 2: final stage for the Hurricanes last season, they have lost

1274
01:07:48,867 --> 01:07:53,787
Speaker 2: some pretty key players Jordy Barrett a massive loss at

1275
01:07:53,827 --> 01:07:56,267
Speaker 2: Ireland and Ireland of course he'll be back next season.

1276
01:07:56,307 --> 01:07:58,827
Speaker 2: T J Pettinado, Well, you've got cam Roy guards, so

1277
01:07:59,307 --> 01:08:02,707
Speaker 2: I think the sum is probably at least equal and

1278
01:08:02,787 --> 01:08:05,947
Speaker 2: probably even better with cam Roy guard. They're provided, you know,

1279
01:08:06,027 --> 01:08:08,307
Speaker 2: the same thing doesn't happen to him that happened last

1280
01:08:08,347 --> 01:08:11,107
Speaker 2: season when he got that season ending injury against the

1281
01:08:11,147 --> 01:08:14,787
Speaker 2: Highlanders in round six. The captaincy thing is really interesting

1282
01:08:14,867 --> 01:08:16,947
Speaker 2: to me. Brad Shields was the captain of the Hurricanes

1283
01:08:17,027 --> 01:08:20,547
Speaker 2: last season and a suffer one more and Jordy Barrett

1284
01:08:20,587 --> 01:08:22,627
Speaker 2: were the co captain, sorry, the co vice captains.

1285
01:08:23,147 --> 01:08:23,307
Speaker 7: Now.

1286
01:08:23,427 --> 01:08:25,547
Speaker 2: I just wonder whether we're looking at a co captain

1287
01:08:25,627 --> 01:08:28,587
Speaker 2: situation for the Hurricanes this year. Just the way that

1288
01:08:29,187 --> 01:08:32,547
Speaker 2: Clarke laid Law was talking there about shared responsibility, the

1289
01:08:32,667 --> 01:08:36,147
Speaker 2: fact that they haven't unveiled their captain yet. I just

1290
01:08:36,227 --> 01:08:39,747
Speaker 2: wonder whether we might see a shared responsibility. Maybe it's

1291
01:08:39,787 --> 01:08:42,547
Speaker 2: Brad Shields and a suffer one more as co captains.

1292
01:08:43,027 --> 01:08:44,587
Speaker 2: The other think about Brad Shields is he's in a

1293
01:08:44,627 --> 01:08:47,427
Speaker 2: real battle in those loose forward positions to play every week.

1294
01:08:48,307 --> 01:08:51,907
Speaker 2: I mean, he is definitely in that mix without a question,

1295
01:08:52,307 --> 01:08:54,707
Speaker 2: a really good season last year, but he might not

1296
01:08:54,787 --> 01:08:57,387
Speaker 2: play every week. The other guy who I think might

1297
01:08:57,427 --> 01:08:58,747
Speaker 2: be a bit of a smoky, bit of a dark

1298
01:08:58,787 --> 01:09:00,987
Speaker 2: horse for a leadership role in that team is Billy Procter,

1299
01:09:02,507 --> 01:09:06,307
Speaker 2: superb super rugby season last year, into the All Back,

1300
01:09:06,547 --> 01:09:09,787
Speaker 2: into the All Blacks, criminally underused in the All Blacks

1301
01:09:09,867 --> 01:09:12,547
Speaker 2: last year, it must be said, but a guy who

1302
01:09:12,627 --> 01:09:17,747
Speaker 2: has massive respect around the Hurricanes environment. So I wonder

1303
01:09:17,787 --> 01:09:20,587
Speaker 2: whether he might be in the mix in some fashion

1304
01:09:21,267 --> 01:09:24,107
Speaker 2: as well. And then you've got a guy like Duplaskrifi,

1305
01:09:24,187 --> 01:09:28,027
Speaker 2: of course, who led the Lions to the NPC championship

1306
01:09:28,107 --> 01:09:31,907
Speaker 2: last season and is also highly regarded in the leadership sense.

1307
01:09:32,147 --> 01:09:33,667
Speaker 2: So maybe you don't even have to pick a captain.

1308
01:09:33,707 --> 01:09:36,307
Speaker 2: You just say look, you blokes are the leadership group.

1309
01:09:36,347 --> 01:09:39,587
Speaker 2: You decide who's the armband and does the postmatch interviews

1310
01:09:40,427 --> 01:09:42,667
Speaker 2: and otherwise we'll just go out there and we'll all lead.

1311
01:09:43,947 --> 01:09:45,707
Speaker 2: I guess we'll find out what is Clark Station to

1312
01:09:45,787 --> 01:09:48,667
Speaker 2: tell the team tomorrow what they've decided, So I guess

1313
01:09:48,667 --> 01:09:51,627
Speaker 2: we'll find out in due course. Scott says Richie mu

1314
01:09:51,627 --> 01:09:55,747
Speaker 2: Wonga would be a good or even better acquisition from

1315
01:09:55,787 --> 01:09:57,747
Speaker 2: Winer PACIFICA than Nardie next year. Look out for it.

1316
01:09:58,587 --> 01:10:00,947
Speaker 2: Would Richie Wonger come back and play for more Iner PACIFICA.

1317
01:10:01,027 --> 01:10:04,627
Speaker 2: He might. You'd think you go back to the Crusaders, but.

1318
01:10:06,427 --> 01:10:06,747
Speaker 6: We might.

1319
01:10:07,747 --> 01:10:10,867
Speaker 2: Nothing off the table. Nothing off the table. Twenty two

1320
01:10:10,907 --> 01:10:13,667
Speaker 2: away from two, it's like a break come back. James

1321
01:10:13,747 --> 01:10:15,547
Speaker 2: mcconey in his regular Sunday slot.

1322
01:10:15,987 --> 01:10:19,707
Speaker 1: The Tough Questions Off the Turf Weekend Sport with Jason

1323
01:10:19,787 --> 01:10:23,667
Speaker 1: Pyne and GJ. Gunnerholmes, New Zealand's most trusted home builder.

1324
01:10:25,667 --> 01:10:28,787
Speaker 2: Eighteen away from two, Tony says Jason cam royguard would

1325
01:10:28,787 --> 01:10:32,387
Speaker 2: be my choice for Kine's captain, Yeah, but early from

1326
01:10:32,467 --> 01:10:34,987
Speaker 2: maybe Tony. I think in the future absolutely, he's got

1327
01:10:35,067 --> 01:10:38,067
Speaker 2: leadership qualities. I just let him be his awesome self,

1328
01:10:38,507 --> 01:10:43,067
Speaker 2: unencumbered by any leadership responsibility. Hello, James, are you encumbered

1329
01:10:43,067 --> 01:10:45,067
Speaker 2: by any leadership responsibility?

1330
01:10:45,867 --> 01:10:46,147
Speaker 7: We have?

1331
01:10:46,267 --> 01:10:49,387
Speaker 5: I just interrupted hurricanes, fim, what's going on?

1332
01:10:50,707 --> 01:10:51,907
Speaker 2: You have welcome aboard?

1333
01:10:54,627 --> 01:10:57,227
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, I know you've got first five issues.

1334
01:10:57,387 --> 01:10:57,987
Speaker 3: This is all I know.

1335
01:10:58,107 --> 01:11:00,467
Speaker 5: But you've still got enough talent to win the whole thing.

1336
01:11:00,667 --> 01:11:04,507
Speaker 5: So they get it right. The biggest decision is dup

1337
01:11:05,547 --> 01:11:09,147
Speaker 5: versus being a larky. That's who starts.

1338
01:11:10,147 --> 01:11:14,027
Speaker 2: It's big. I thought maybe you and Chief Country might

1339
01:11:14,067 --> 01:11:15,347
Speaker 2: have given us Josh Jacob.

1340
01:11:16,907 --> 01:11:18,947
Speaker 5: Yeah, well that's the thing. He's been playing so well

1341
01:11:18,987 --> 01:11:21,667
Speaker 5: in pre season. It looks like he might maybe get

1342
01:11:21,707 --> 01:11:24,267
Speaker 5: the ten jersey to start with the mac roaming out

1343
01:11:24,307 --> 01:11:24,627
Speaker 5: the back.

1344
01:11:24,987 --> 01:11:26,427
Speaker 2: Do you think you think that's what they might do?

1345
01:11:27,307 --> 01:11:27,427
Speaker 7: Well?

1346
01:11:27,507 --> 01:11:29,907
Speaker 5: Shawn Stevenson's gone to Japan on a bit of a

1347
01:11:29,987 --> 01:11:33,347
Speaker 5: sabbatical slash. I'm going to end some more money up here,

1348
01:11:34,027 --> 01:11:37,387
Speaker 5: and that means that they are short of full back

1349
01:11:37,707 --> 01:11:39,907
Speaker 5: and there are you know, Nadawa can play there, No

1350
01:11:40,187 --> 01:11:43,787
Speaker 5: Studo can play there. But maybe it's just easier if

1351
01:11:43,867 --> 01:11:47,347
Speaker 5: Jacob's in such good form to let the Mac play

1352
01:11:47,387 --> 01:11:47,827
Speaker 5: out the back.

1353
01:11:49,787 --> 01:11:53,347
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, but greedy, we're trying to we're trying to

1354
01:11:53,387 --> 01:11:54,867
Speaker 2: work out how to play there. You've got about three

1355
01:11:54,947 --> 01:11:55,227
Speaker 2: up there.

1356
01:11:56,107 --> 01:12:00,107
Speaker 5: The greediest team are the Blues, but I meant the right.

1357
01:12:00,427 --> 01:12:03,427
Speaker 5: They are the champions and now they've got Bowden back

1358
01:12:03,547 --> 01:12:08,107
Speaker 5: with Harry Plummer, Stephen Peerfetta and Evans Sullivan, so so

1359
01:12:08,267 --> 01:12:11,467
Speaker 5: much to choose in the tens to the fifteen area there.

1360
01:12:11,987 --> 01:12:14,867
Speaker 2: Absolutely you want to get to Super rugby in a bit,

1361
01:12:14,987 --> 01:12:18,827
Speaker 2: but let's start chronologically, or this isn't actually chronological, but

1362
01:12:19,507 --> 01:12:22,507
Speaker 2: something has already happened as the black Caps last night

1363
01:12:22,587 --> 01:12:24,867
Speaker 2: in a fifty over game three hundred and thirty for

1364
01:12:24,907 --> 01:12:28,427
Speaker 2: six against Pakistan, Glenn Phillips one oh six of seventy

1365
01:12:28,467 --> 01:12:30,387
Speaker 2: four balls and then your bowl Pakistan out for two

1366
01:12:30,507 --> 01:12:32,907
Speaker 2: fifty two. That's a pretty good day's work, isn't it.

1367
01:12:33,867 --> 01:12:34,547
Speaker 3: It really is.

1368
01:12:34,747 --> 01:12:37,907
Speaker 5: I mean they're in Lahore, they're pretty much that the

1369
01:12:37,987 --> 01:12:42,027
Speaker 5: local side is expecting to win. But I think I've

1370
01:12:42,067 --> 01:12:44,587
Speaker 5: said this to you before party. I think the fifty

1371
01:12:44,667 --> 01:12:48,587
Speaker 5: over game is our best discipline, best format for this

1372
01:12:48,747 --> 01:12:52,067
Speaker 5: New Zealand side. Even when you see the team names,

1373
01:12:52,107 --> 01:12:55,147
Speaker 5: you just can't find a weakness from the start to

1374
01:12:55,227 --> 01:12:58,827
Speaker 5: the top to the bottom. There so to bet. You know,

1375
01:12:59,587 --> 01:13:02,867
Speaker 5: with the batting you had Dalal Mitchell with his eighty one,

1376
01:13:02,987 --> 01:13:06,787
Speaker 5: Kine got another another fifty, but Glenn Philip one oh

1377
01:13:06,947 --> 01:13:09,347
Speaker 5: six not out just shows he is a really an

1378
01:13:09,387 --> 01:13:14,667
Speaker 5: outstanding white ball cricketer. And then you've got Mitch Santner

1379
01:13:14,947 --> 01:13:18,987
Speaker 5: and Matt Henry for three wickets apiece. It's pretty good going.

1380
01:13:19,627 --> 01:13:24,467
Speaker 5: And when you wonder about the Pakistani team, well, Shaheena

1381
01:13:24,547 --> 01:13:27,427
Speaker 5: Freedi was bowling the big tall guy with the perfect

1382
01:13:27,467 --> 01:13:30,707
Speaker 5: hair and he got smashed for about eighty runs off

1383
01:13:30,747 --> 01:13:33,347
Speaker 5: as ten eighty eight off his ten overs. And then

1384
01:13:33,547 --> 01:13:36,707
Speaker 5: don't take me to the Broadcasting Standards authority, but fuck

1385
01:13:36,787 --> 01:13:41,427
Speaker 5: as a man scored eighty four, you know there will.

1386
01:13:41,307 --> 01:13:46,947
Speaker 2: Be no there will be no complaints proffered there. I

1387
01:13:47,067 --> 01:13:49,147
Speaker 2: know Mitchell Santon has just been given the job of

1388
01:13:49,187 --> 01:13:51,507
Speaker 2: white ball captain, but if he were to be injured

1389
01:13:51,547 --> 01:13:54,427
Speaker 2: or something, would you give Glenn Phillips a crack as

1390
01:13:54,507 --> 01:13:55,587
Speaker 2: captain of the white ball team.

1391
01:13:57,107 --> 01:13:59,467
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think he would be a good option. I

1392
01:13:59,547 --> 01:14:03,107
Speaker 5: mean it's one of those ones where at the moment

1393
01:14:03,187 --> 01:14:06,227
Speaker 5: he's a nailed on selection, So yes, he is an

1394
01:14:06,347 --> 01:14:08,667
Speaker 5: option the captain. But you just don't know who the

1395
01:14:08,707 --> 01:14:12,667
Speaker 5: good tacticians are sometimes I mean Kin Williamson. I mean

1396
01:14:12,747 --> 01:14:16,827
Speaker 5: he won us a World Test Championship as captain. But

1397
01:14:17,347 --> 01:14:19,067
Speaker 5: I said, I have it on pretty good authority that

1398
01:14:19,747 --> 01:14:21,427
Speaker 5: you know, for a lot of his games he leant

1399
01:14:21,467 --> 01:14:24,707
Speaker 5: heavily on the likes of Ross Taylor and Salved himself

1400
01:14:24,827 --> 01:14:28,747
Speaker 5: was really a collective. So you know there will be

1401
01:14:28,827 --> 01:14:33,027
Speaker 5: someone there who who was always got Tom Latham as well,

1402
01:14:33,147 --> 01:14:35,827
Speaker 5: you know, so his clear leadership all the way through

1403
01:14:35,907 --> 01:14:38,707
Speaker 5: and future captain Rauch and Ravender as well.

1404
01:14:39,427 --> 01:14:41,507
Speaker 2: Speaking of right and your face from the field in

1405
01:14:41,587 --> 01:14:45,227
Speaker 2: this game, struck in the forehead attempting a catch. He

1406
01:14:45,307 --> 01:14:48,907
Speaker 2: sustained a laceration to his forehead. He's otherwise, it was

1407
01:14:48,987 --> 01:14:52,067
Speaker 2: treated otherwise okay, came through his hia well and will

1408
01:14:52,107 --> 01:14:54,347
Speaker 2: be continue to be monitored. So that's good news for

1409
01:14:54,547 --> 01:14:57,747
Speaker 2: rich and moving forward Super Bowl tomorrow. Are you going

1410
01:14:57,827 --> 01:14:58,467
Speaker 2: to be parked up?

1411
01:15:00,267 --> 01:15:02,747
Speaker 5: We'll be parked up at craig as Wild. We're on air,

1412
01:15:03,347 --> 01:15:05,707
Speaker 5: so who we have trying to think about who's going

1413
01:15:05,747 --> 01:15:07,547
Speaker 5: to bring the hot as it usually falls on me

1414
01:15:07,867 --> 01:15:10,947
Speaker 5: to go and get me the frankfurters and the buns

1415
01:15:11,027 --> 01:15:15,587
Speaker 5: and all that sort of stuff. So yes, we'll be

1416
01:15:15,667 --> 01:15:18,027
Speaker 5: packed up here thinking, well, who's it going to be?

1417
01:15:18,067 --> 01:15:20,227
Speaker 5: Is it going to be a Chief's manner? Will it

1418
01:15:20,307 --> 01:15:23,867
Speaker 5: be the Eagles? At the moment, they're very the Chiefs

1419
01:15:23,947 --> 01:15:27,987
Speaker 5: and narrow favorites, but too tough to pick. Really, I'm

1420
01:15:28,027 --> 01:15:31,467
Speaker 5: just hoping that there's going to be plenty of plenty

1421
01:15:31,507 --> 01:15:33,947
Speaker 5: of touchdowns. I don't want to down if it needs

1422
01:15:33,987 --> 01:15:38,027
Speaker 5: to be something exciting, something that you know, there's obviously

1423
01:15:38,067 --> 01:15:41,627
Speaker 5: plenty of Taylor Swift sightings as well to Kendrick Lamar

1424
01:15:41,707 --> 01:15:46,787
Speaker 5: at halftime, but really tough to pick. If anything, I'd

1425
01:15:46,907 --> 01:15:50,227
Speaker 5: say maybe the Eagles with their defense could get the

1426
01:15:50,347 --> 01:15:50,787
Speaker 5: job done.

1427
01:15:51,187 --> 01:15:52,707
Speaker 2: All right, we've got a bit of a Super Bowl

1428
01:15:52,747 --> 01:15:54,867
Speaker 2: preview after two o'clock. But yeah, I think you can

1429
01:15:54,947 --> 01:15:57,907
Speaker 2: even bet on anders and overs the number of times

1430
01:15:58,307 --> 01:16:00,867
Speaker 2: Taylor Swift appears in the broadcast coverage.

1431
01:16:01,867 --> 01:16:05,947
Speaker 5: Well, I'd rather bet on that than the actual the result,

1432
01:16:06,027 --> 01:16:08,627
Speaker 5: because right now I'm just thinking, oh, surely you know

1433
01:16:09,387 --> 01:16:14,427
Speaker 5: Patrick Mahomes is going to get it done with Taylor's boyfriend,

1434
01:16:14,587 --> 01:16:17,347
Speaker 5: you know, Travis Kelcey. But then you go, say, Kwon

1435
01:16:17,387 --> 01:16:19,587
Speaker 5: Barclay on the other side of the running backs for

1436
01:16:19,707 --> 01:16:22,427
Speaker 5: the Ages he's you know, there's just there's a lot

1437
01:16:22,467 --> 01:16:27,587
Speaker 5: to like. It's a santalizing proposition this game and looking

1438
01:16:27,587 --> 01:16:30,227
Speaker 5: forward to the half time mad for queasiest to sort

1439
01:16:30,227 --> 01:16:31,947
Speaker 5: of go on YouTube or watch those.

1440
01:16:32,467 --> 01:16:34,707
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sure they'll Yeah, they'll pop up pretty quickly.

1441
01:16:34,707 --> 01:16:36,427
Speaker 2: Whin they will be able to watch those. Hey, staying

1442
01:16:36,747 --> 01:16:39,507
Speaker 2: in the United States, I know it's sort of not

1443
01:16:39,627 --> 01:16:42,107
Speaker 2: old news, but it's happened a little while ago. Now

1444
01:16:42,147 --> 01:16:45,107
Speaker 2: as the whole Luca Doncic trade to the LA Lakers,

1445
01:16:45,147 --> 01:16:46,227
Speaker 2: do you have any reflections on this?

1446
01:16:47,347 --> 01:16:47,747
Speaker 3: Yeah, I do.

1447
01:16:47,947 --> 01:16:51,187
Speaker 5: I think everyone thinks it's madness, and Luca Donches is

1448
01:16:51,267 --> 01:16:54,267
Speaker 5: an absolute superstar. He has trouble with his fitness. I

1449
01:16:54,347 --> 01:16:58,307
Speaker 5: mean I can relate with his weight. Again, definitely relate

1450
01:16:58,387 --> 01:17:02,627
Speaker 5: to Luca, but his skill is not in question, so

1451
01:17:02,827 --> 01:17:06,227
Speaker 5: he is truly pretty much. I think ninety nine percent

1452
01:17:06,427 --> 01:17:09,307
Speaker 5: of people said this is madness as trade isn't worth anything.

1453
01:17:09,627 --> 01:17:14,507
Speaker 5: But the one percent consisted included Charles Berkley, the Great

1454
01:17:14,947 --> 01:17:18,147
Speaker 5: Charles Barkley. He said, this isn't a bad deal. Anthony

1455
01:17:18,227 --> 01:17:21,307
Speaker 5: Davis goes across to the other side, the mono brow.

1456
01:17:21,547 --> 01:17:24,427
Speaker 5: You know, most famous mono brow s free de Carlo,

1457
01:17:24,587 --> 01:17:28,707
Speaker 5: the Mexican painter, so you know, he is a proper

1458
01:17:29,107 --> 01:17:33,627
Speaker 5: superstar himself and will make the the Dallas Maverick's better

1459
01:17:33,747 --> 01:17:36,907
Speaker 5: in the short term. But I was thinking that I

1460
01:17:37,027 --> 01:17:38,867
Speaker 5: was trying to work out what would be the trade

1461
01:17:38,907 --> 01:17:42,387
Speaker 5: that would would resemble this, and I was thinking, we've

1462
01:17:42,427 --> 01:17:45,307
Speaker 5: almost We don't necessarily trade in New Zealand, but I

1463
01:17:45,387 --> 01:17:49,627
Speaker 5: think Alex Pulson going to All GRUNDSD because a lot

1464
01:17:49,667 --> 01:17:52,427
Speaker 5: of drama, sorry if for you, and Boden Barratt going

1465
01:17:52,467 --> 01:17:54,027
Speaker 5: to the Blues was quite big as well.

1466
01:17:57,707 --> 01:18:01,067
Speaker 2: Thanks for driving deep into the heart of hurricane CFM.

1467
01:18:02,627 --> 01:18:04,747
Speaker 3: TV right right at un right now.

1468
01:18:09,627 --> 01:18:13,147
Speaker 2: But what those things did, though James was was create talk,

1469
01:18:13,347 --> 01:18:16,707
Speaker 2: right And that's what this, this this trade in the

1470
01:18:16,827 --> 01:18:18,627
Speaker 2: NBA has shown us there is that the off court

1471
01:18:18,747 --> 01:18:22,667
Speaker 2: narratives can really blow up. Everybody was talking about about

1472
01:18:22,867 --> 01:18:25,307
Speaker 2: the Don chicch trade, even though people who didn't really

1473
01:18:25,467 --> 01:18:27,787
Speaker 2: know one end of a basketball caught from another.

1474
01:18:28,907 --> 01:18:31,827
Speaker 5: It's a really good point because the NBA has been struggling.

1475
01:18:32,027 --> 01:18:36,427
Speaker 5: NFL is bigger than ever college football, American football is massive,

1476
01:18:36,667 --> 01:18:39,827
Speaker 5: and the final for that was a ratings bonanza. So

1477
01:18:40,387 --> 01:18:43,227
Speaker 5: the NBA sitt and needed something, and they're coming up

1478
01:18:43,267 --> 01:18:46,787
Speaker 5: to the All Star weekend, which is always such a flop.

1479
01:18:46,827 --> 01:18:49,987
Speaker 5: It's just a massive kind of like non contested a

1480
01:18:50,107 --> 01:18:53,867
Speaker 5: game of social basketball. It's better watching the actual celebrity

1481
01:18:53,947 --> 01:18:55,867
Speaker 5: game where you know, you sort of get some random

1482
01:18:55,947 --> 01:18:58,667
Speaker 5: rappers they can they can ensure it or whatever, you know,

1483
01:18:58,907 --> 01:19:03,067
Speaker 5: like that's actually worth watching. But then now this gives

1484
01:19:03,107 --> 01:19:05,387
Speaker 5: them what they need, which is buzz, which is people

1485
01:19:05,467 --> 01:19:09,547
Speaker 5: thinking about their saying it's a big deal, exactly what

1486
01:19:09,667 --> 01:19:12,267
Speaker 5: Adam Silver, the commissioner of the NBA.

1487
01:19:12,187 --> 01:19:16,747
Speaker 2: Wants, just to finish. Wales played Italy overnight and Italy won.

1488
01:19:16,947 --> 01:19:19,147
Speaker 2: If that was a football game, we wouldn't even raise

1489
01:19:19,147 --> 01:19:21,107
Speaker 2: an eyebrow. It's a rugby game. And actually I'm not

1490
01:19:21,347 --> 01:19:23,827
Speaker 2: I'm not sure we're raising an eyebrow now that it's

1491
01:19:23,867 --> 01:19:27,387
Speaker 2: a rugby game. Wales are terrible. Fourteen straight defeats.

1492
01:19:28,507 --> 01:19:32,467
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's totally in rebuild mode. I feel sorry for

1493
01:19:32,507 --> 01:19:34,467
Speaker 5: Warren Gatland, but it doesn't look good at a CV

1494
01:19:34,627 --> 01:19:37,267
Speaker 5: because he I think he went eleven games straight. I'm

1495
01:19:37,347 --> 01:19:40,347
Speaker 5: losing with the Chiefs and now he's got this fourteen

1496
01:19:40,467 --> 01:19:40,627
Speaker 5: or it?

1497
01:19:40,747 --> 01:19:42,747
Speaker 2: Yeah fourteen yeah, so.

1498
01:19:44,347 --> 01:19:47,067
Speaker 5: And I mean it is tough because I actually think

1499
01:19:47,107 --> 01:19:51,427
Speaker 5: Italy are really good. They've got recently, you've got this

1500
01:19:51,907 --> 01:19:54,307
Speaker 5: Argentinian coach. His name escapes from I've met the guy

1501
01:19:54,347 --> 01:19:56,667
Speaker 5: as well. You'll think of him while I'm while I'm speaking,

1502
01:19:56,707 --> 01:20:02,347
Speaker 5: But anyway, he is Italy. Last year they beat Wales,

1503
01:20:02,747 --> 01:20:05,947
Speaker 5: they beat Scotland and they drew with France and lost

1504
01:20:06,067 --> 01:20:09,227
Speaker 5: in by three points. So they know about these days,

1505
01:20:09,267 --> 01:20:12,467
Speaker 5: the Italians. But yeah, it just doesn't look good Forgets

1506
01:20:12,507 --> 01:20:16,147
Speaker 5: and I can't see when happening. You can't see too

1507
01:20:16,187 --> 01:20:18,347
Speaker 5: many Welsh players being in the in the British and

1508
01:20:18,387 --> 01:20:21,747
Speaker 5: Irish Lions this year. It's a really it's a tough

1509
01:20:21,827 --> 01:20:24,907
Speaker 5: one for Gats and look that they might be knocking

1510
01:20:24,987 --> 01:20:27,467
Speaker 5: on his door saying enough is enough. But it doesn't

1511
01:20:27,507 --> 01:20:30,187
Speaker 5: mean he's a bad coach. It's just he's been caught

1512
01:20:30,507 --> 01:20:35,107
Speaker 5: with circumstances where a golden generation retires on that and

1513
01:20:35,267 --> 01:20:36,067
Speaker 5: this is what happens.

1514
01:20:36,587 --> 01:20:40,827
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the Argentinian player now Italian rugby coach

1515
01:20:40,827 --> 01:20:43,467
Speaker 2: whose name escapes you as Gonzalo Carsades.

1516
01:20:43,707 --> 01:20:49,267
Speaker 5: Is that him, Yeah, Gonzale Casado. Yeah, my deepest apologies

1517
01:20:49,347 --> 01:20:53,787
Speaker 5: lociento which is Spanish because he speaks Spanish, even though

1518
01:20:53,827 --> 01:20:56,867
Speaker 5: he probably speaks Italian as well. But yeah, I mean

1519
01:20:56,987 --> 01:20:58,707
Speaker 5: this is all stuff and trying to add value to

1520
01:20:58,787 --> 01:21:02,707
Speaker 5: Hurricanes ZFM here, but yeah, look out for those Chiefs

1521
01:21:02,747 --> 01:21:06,147
Speaker 5: though still strong.

1522
01:21:06,667 --> 01:21:06,987
Speaker 6: All right.

1523
01:21:06,987 --> 01:21:09,187
Speaker 2: Well, CLAYT. McMillan's leading us off after two, so I'll

1524
01:21:09,387 --> 01:21:11,067
Speaker 2: check him with him about who he's got in store

1525
01:21:11,467 --> 01:21:17,347
Speaker 2: to replace Wallace. Enjoy Super Bowl, James, Let's catch up

1526
01:21:17,347 --> 01:21:18,067
Speaker 2: again next Sunday.

1527
01:21:18,987 --> 01:21:21,107
Speaker 5: Love too, Thanks Piney, cheers mate.

1528
01:21:21,267 --> 01:21:23,507
Speaker 2: Thanks James. James mcconey a huge part of our Sundays

1529
01:21:23,747 --> 01:21:26,987
Speaker 2: around this time every Sunday afternoon here on Weekend Sports

1530
01:21:27,027 --> 01:21:28,547
Speaker 2: seven and a half to two New Stalks.

1531
01:21:28,587 --> 01:21:32,787
Speaker 1: Hebby analyzing every view from every angle in the sporting

1532
01:21:32,867 --> 01:21:36,267
Speaker 1: world weekends for it with Jason five. They call eight

1533
01:21:36,347 --> 01:21:38,227
Speaker 1: hundred and eighty eighty US Talk.

1534
01:21:38,147 --> 01:21:41,827
Speaker 2: ZBB, coming up four to two. After two o'clock, we

1535
01:21:42,467 --> 01:21:46,147
Speaker 2: continue our journey around the Super rugby franchises based in

1536
01:21:46,227 --> 01:21:48,067
Speaker 2: New Zealand. We've been to the Blues, We've been to

1537
01:21:48,147 --> 01:21:51,507
Speaker 2: the Crusaders, to Wita Pacifica and the Hurricanes. First up

1538
01:21:51,547 --> 01:21:54,467
Speaker 2: after two o'clock. Clayton McMillan out of the Chiefs. I

1539
01:21:54,547 --> 01:21:56,907
Speaker 2: still think their favorites. I still think the Chiefs are

1540
01:21:56,907 --> 01:22:00,507
Speaker 2: Super Rugby favorites. And Jamie Joseph back in the head

1541
01:22:00,547 --> 01:22:04,027
Speaker 2: coaching role with the Highlanders, can he recreate the magic

1542
01:22:04,387 --> 01:22:09,107
Speaker 2: of ten years ago when the Highlanders won Super Rugby

1543
01:22:11,667 --> 01:22:15,067
Speaker 2: even though that ball was never down in the final,

1544
01:22:15,627 --> 01:22:19,747
Speaker 2: never down anyway, We digress Jamie Joseph and Clayton McMillan.

1545
01:22:19,827 --> 01:22:22,987
Speaker 2: After two o'clock and with Super Bowl fifty nine set

1546
01:22:23,067 --> 01:22:25,867
Speaker 2: to go at twelve thirty tomorrow afternoon New Zealand time,

1547
01:22:25,907 --> 01:22:28,147
Speaker 2: We've got a preview for you and it comes from

1548
01:22:28,227 --> 01:22:33,867
Speaker 2: a slightly slightly left wing source. I haven't got time

1549
01:22:33,947 --> 01:22:36,347
Speaker 2: to tell you before two, so i'll tell you after two.

1550
01:22:37,427 --> 01:22:41,547
Speaker 1: The only place for the big names, the big issues,

1551
01:22:42,347 --> 01:22:47,227
Speaker 1: the big controversies and the big conversations. It's all on

1552
01:22:47,387 --> 01:22:51,147
Speaker 1: Weekend Sport with Jason Vain on your home of Sport

1553
01:22:51,627 --> 01:22:52,707
Speaker 1: News Talk said been.

1554
01:22:54,307 --> 01:22:57,627
Speaker 2: Till seven final our Weekend Sport before we hand over

1555
01:22:57,707 --> 01:23:00,987
Speaker 2: to Tim Beverage. For that we can collect a Sunday edition.

1556
01:23:01,827 --> 01:23:04,547
Speaker 2: But to get through between now and three though, Super

1557
01:23:04,587 --> 01:23:08,147
Speaker 2: Bowl preview for you can the City Chiefs Philadelphia Eagles

1558
01:23:08,227 --> 01:23:14,507
Speaker 2: twelve thirty tomorrow, one of our regular correspondents is going

1559
01:23:14,587 --> 01:23:17,867
Speaker 2: to give us the Super Bowl preview this year. More

1560
01:23:17,907 --> 01:23:20,907
Speaker 2: on that in just a moment. We'll continue our journey

1561
01:23:20,947 --> 01:23:24,187
Speaker 2: around the New Zealand Super Rugby franchises. Two to go,

1562
01:23:25,307 --> 01:23:28,987
Speaker 2: Clayton McMillan from the Chiefs, Jamie Joseph from the Highlanders

1563
01:23:29,027 --> 01:23:31,427
Speaker 2: with us inside the next half hour or so. You

1564
01:23:31,547 --> 01:23:33,427
Speaker 2: can get in touch whenever you're like, oh, eight hundred

1565
01:23:33,467 --> 01:23:35,427
Speaker 2: and eighty ten eighty is our phone number, nine two,

1566
01:23:35,547 --> 01:23:38,507
Speaker 2: nine to two. On text. Jamie says on text Pinty

1567
01:23:38,547 --> 01:23:41,587
Speaker 2: that ball was ruled to be down from Elliott Dixon

1568
01:23:41,627 --> 01:23:44,587
Speaker 2: in twenty fifteen. Yes, the rugby gods were on the

1569
01:23:44,667 --> 01:23:48,227
Speaker 2: southern side that day, but there have been occasions when

1570
01:23:48,307 --> 01:23:51,827
Speaker 2: it hasn't been Jamie, You're right, You're right. I should

1571
01:23:51,867 --> 01:23:53,507
Speaker 2: get over It's been ten years. I need to let

1572
01:23:53,547 --> 01:23:56,267
Speaker 2: it go. Hurricanes win. I won it the next year anyway,

1573
01:23:56,307 --> 01:23:59,107
Speaker 2: so no harm done, as they say. Looking forward to

1574
01:23:59,147 --> 01:24:01,027
Speaker 2: hearing from Jamie Joseph. Though he came back to the

1575
01:24:01,147 --> 01:24:03,547
Speaker 2: Highlanders last year and a kind of a I don't know,

1576
01:24:03,627 --> 01:24:06,147
Speaker 2: strategic role ahead of rugby, Director of Rugby, whatever you

1577
01:24:06,147 --> 01:24:07,787
Speaker 2: want to call up, didn't really get him on the

1578
01:24:07,827 --> 01:24:10,227
Speaker 2: grass though always felt to me as though Jamie Joseph

1579
01:24:10,307 --> 01:24:13,707
Speaker 2: wasn't on the grass kind of rugby coach. That director

1580
01:24:13,747 --> 01:24:16,347
Speaker 2: of rugby thing never really seemed to suit him. I

1581
01:24:16,387 --> 01:24:18,987
Speaker 2: think he'd be much happier with the boots on and

1582
01:24:19,027 --> 01:24:21,667
Speaker 2: the whistle and the mouth, standing on the grass, putting

1583
01:24:21,707 --> 01:24:23,947
Speaker 2: his team through their paces. We'll find out when he

1584
01:24:24,067 --> 01:24:28,307
Speaker 2: joins us shortly. Just updating you on the first innings

1585
01:24:28,387 --> 01:24:31,627
Speaker 2: of Halliburton Johnston Sheal cricket as well. Northern Districts have

1586
01:24:31,787 --> 01:24:34,187
Speaker 2: score two hundred and ninety two batting first against Central

1587
01:24:34,227 --> 01:24:36,987
Speaker 2: and New Plymouth, Auckland two fifty eight for eight batting

1588
01:24:37,067 --> 01:24:40,227
Speaker 2: first against Otago in Auckland and Canterby two point fifteen

1589
01:24:40,427 --> 01:24:43,027
Speaker 2: for six batting first against Wellington at the basin. So

1590
01:24:43,107 --> 01:24:46,827
Speaker 2: the respective chases will begin very shortly. But as we

1591
01:24:46,987 --> 01:24:50,547
Speaker 2: tick closer to nine pass two, as we always do

1592
01:24:50,907 --> 01:24:54,387
Speaker 2: at this time on weekend Sport, let's get you up

1593
01:24:54,387 --> 01:24:56,587
Speaker 2: to date with the things you might have missed in

1594
01:24:56,827 --> 01:24:58,827
Speaker 2: case you missed it, as our feature where we do

1595
01:24:59,187 --> 01:25:01,787
Speaker 2: just that after two every Saturday and Sunday. Going to

1596
01:25:01,867 --> 01:25:06,107
Speaker 2: start with sale GP a rough outing on the waters

1597
01:25:06,107 --> 01:25:09,067
Speaker 2: of Sidney Harbor for the Black foils yesterday's trillions as

1598
01:25:09,107 --> 01:25:12,067
Speaker 2: they now have increased their lead over two hundred meters

1599
01:25:12,427 --> 01:25:16,107
Speaker 2: over second place in France. So you see New Zealand,

1600
01:25:16,187 --> 01:25:18,427
Speaker 2: they are just limping through the course. They're going to

1601
01:25:18,467 --> 01:25:20,507
Speaker 2: finish dead lesson points and stev I think it's got

1602
01:25:20,587 --> 01:25:22,747
Speaker 2: to be some kind of mechanical, some kind of issue

1603
01:25:22,787 --> 01:25:25,907
Speaker 2: on board. It was rudder damage for the Black Boys

1604
01:25:25,907 --> 01:25:28,747
Speaker 2: who missed the fourth race altogether. So they go into

1605
01:25:28,867 --> 01:25:31,587
Speaker 2: day two starting at five o'clock this afternoon, in ninth place.

1606
01:25:31,627 --> 01:25:33,947
Speaker 2: Only the top three, of course, make it through to

1607
01:25:34,267 --> 01:25:37,747
Speaker 2: the final. Still in Sydney, a goal fest in the

1608
01:25:37,867 --> 01:25:40,467
Speaker 2: A League's Sydney Derby, shut tout bag.

1609
01:25:40,547 --> 01:25:43,227
Speaker 12: It was pushed it by tots and sids in the

1610
01:25:43,347 --> 01:25:44,187
Speaker 12: room of the days.

1611
01:25:44,867 --> 01:25:52,387
Speaker 2: Undlievable by today Jure Sarah's Sydney Upsee the great tough

1612
01:25:52,707 --> 01:25:54,227
Speaker 2: teams in the league.

1613
01:25:54,387 --> 01:25:55,427
Speaker 3: Have done it again.

1614
01:25:55,907 --> 01:25:59,027
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Sydney Derby always delivered us. Western Sydney were

1615
01:25:59,107 --> 01:26:01,627
Speaker 2: three to one ahead, very very late in the game

1616
01:26:02,107 --> 01:26:04,587
Speaker 2: before Sydney scored twice to bring it back to three

1617
01:26:04,627 --> 01:26:09,347
Speaker 2: to three and a split of the points. Last night

1618
01:26:09,387 --> 01:26:11,267
Speaker 2: on the women's side of the A League, a great

1619
01:26:11,307 --> 01:26:13,147
Speaker 2: start and potty doer for the Phoenix yesterday.

1620
01:26:13,227 --> 01:26:17,667
Speaker 1: This ninety seconds played good Loongo and it's the quarterstation.

1621
01:26:17,907 --> 01:26:19,307
Speaker 10: They've got an early goal.

1622
01:26:19,947 --> 01:26:24,667
Speaker 2: Stunning seventies fling for the Willington Phoenix and they have

1623
01:26:24,827 --> 01:26:28,227
Speaker 2: gone away to the best possible star. Mia mac cutcheon

1624
01:26:28,267 --> 01:26:30,667
Speaker 2: with the headed goal early on. Couldn't hold on though

1625
01:26:31,067 --> 01:26:34,267
Speaker 2: the Phoenix and finished one all against Melbourne. Victory still

1626
01:26:34,787 --> 01:26:38,027
Speaker 2: a good result keeps them in top six contention. A

1627
01:26:38,147 --> 01:26:40,987
Speaker 2: big win for the black Caps overnight, led by Glenn Phillips.

1628
01:26:42,067 --> 01:26:44,387
Speaker 2: On the other side, he is to.

1629
01:26:45,947 --> 01:26:46,747
Speaker 4: Es is big.

1630
01:26:48,547 --> 01:26:52,427
Speaker 2: And just says yes, say night, I pick it what

1631
01:26:52,787 --> 01:26:53,067
Speaker 2: it is.

1632
01:26:53,147 --> 01:26:58,547
Speaker 11: This has been destructive seventy one two balls only here.

1633
01:26:58,667 --> 01:27:01,107
Speaker 2: Really good innings from Glenn Phillips. Really good win for

1634
01:27:01,147 --> 01:27:04,947
Speaker 2: the black Caps as they continue their Champion's Trophy preparations

1635
01:27:05,347 --> 01:27:09,707
Speaker 2: and to Rugby six Nations Italy sinking wiles to even

1636
01:27:10,187 --> 01:27:10,827
Speaker 2: new depths.

1637
01:27:12,307 --> 01:27:22,867
Speaker 11: It's a contay wlsh rugby lies broken in the ruins

1638
01:27:22,907 --> 01:27:29,147
Speaker 11: of Rome. It will be eight four teage consecutive to.

1639
01:27:29,227 --> 01:27:33,427
Speaker 2: Fee incredible Italy winning twenty two fifteen. But for England

1640
01:27:34,307 --> 01:27:36,747
Speaker 2: one of the great turnarounds from last week to beat

1641
01:27:37,107 --> 01:27:39,027
Speaker 2: one of the hot favorites to win. The whole thing

1642
01:27:39,187 --> 01:27:41,427
Speaker 2: of the bucket up more Mitchell takes it.

1643
01:27:42,507 --> 01:27:43,747
Speaker 11: Bucket goes, j.

1644
01:27:43,987 --> 01:27:45,947
Speaker 9: The Center day goes.

1645
01:27:47,707 --> 01:27:49,107
Speaker 2: All day long.

1646
01:27:49,747 --> 01:27:58,627
Speaker 11: It's a choice, Jelly Daily Angles, the phones, the che

1647
01:27:59,147 --> 01:28:03,227
Speaker 11: gone off, run in the dying numbers and ticket.

1648
01:28:02,987 --> 01:28:09,147
Speaker 1: Of breaking down the Hail Mary's and the weekends for

1649
01:28:09,347 --> 01:28:11,507
Speaker 1: it with Jason nine News Talk.

1650
01:28:11,627 --> 01:28:15,227
Speaker 2: Zenby dramatic stuff in the Six Nations at Twickenham with

1651
01:28:15,307 --> 01:28:17,867
Speaker 2: England winning twenty six twenty five over France. Scotland v

1652
01:28:18,067 --> 01:28:22,387
Speaker 2: Ireland at Murrayfield tomorrow morning at four o'clock New Zealand.

1653
01:28:22,427 --> 01:28:26,987
Speaker 2: Time to wrap the second weekend of Six Nations. This

1654
01:28:27,147 --> 01:28:29,467
Speaker 2: is Weekend Sport on News Talk s ed B. We're

1655
01:28:29,547 --> 01:28:31,507
Speaker 2: less than a week away from the start of Super

1656
01:28:31,587 --> 01:28:35,827
Speaker 2: Rugby Pacific twenty twenty five. Let's continue our journey around

1657
01:28:35,827 --> 01:28:39,107
Speaker 2: the New Zealand franchises and we land with the Chiefs.

1658
01:28:39,107 --> 01:28:41,867
Speaker 3: Josh Huwani to make it thirty three twenty nine.

1659
01:28:42,387 --> 01:28:44,947
Speaker 8: He steps in, He puts the ball at the posts.

1660
01:28:45,187 --> 01:28:51,187
Speaker 8: It's going, it's going. It's going, men and gentlemen, and

1661
01:28:51,347 --> 01:28:53,707
Speaker 8: the Chiefs have got there out of nowhere.

1662
01:28:54,107 --> 01:28:56,947
Speaker 2: Chiefs head coach Clayton McMillan is with us get Clayton.

1663
01:28:56,947 --> 01:28:58,667
Speaker 2: You wrapped your pre season with a win over more

1664
01:28:58,707 --> 01:29:02,427
Speaker 2: One of PACIFICA yesterday. Did you come through unscathed injury

1665
01:29:02,507 --> 01:29:05,067
Speaker 2: wise and did you sort of got what you needed

1666
01:29:05,107 --> 01:29:06,867
Speaker 2: out of these two precis and games?

1667
01:29:08,027 --> 01:29:11,947
Speaker 7: Yeah? I think so. Funny it's it's always our biggest concern,

1668
01:29:12,067 --> 01:29:17,827
Speaker 7: isn't it coming out of preseason unscathed. And there's a

1669
01:29:17,867 --> 01:29:19,907
Speaker 7: couple of little weed niggles here in the yesterday, as

1670
01:29:19,947 --> 01:29:23,347
Speaker 7: you would expect coming out of preseason game, but nothing

1671
01:29:23,427 --> 01:29:26,347
Speaker 7: that's going to cause us any concern. Heending the week one, all.

1672
01:29:26,387 --> 01:29:28,987
Speaker 2: Right, So arrive at the start line or just out

1673
01:29:29,027 --> 01:29:31,707
Speaker 2: from the start line, how good is shape? Do you

1674
01:29:31,787 --> 01:29:32,267
Speaker 2: think you're in.

1675
01:29:35,267 --> 01:29:35,467
Speaker 10: To be?

1676
01:29:35,507 --> 01:29:35,867
Speaker 12: Perfully?

1677
01:29:35,947 --> 01:29:38,547
Speaker 7: Honest, I was hoping for us to take a bigger

1678
01:29:38,587 --> 01:29:43,387
Speaker 7: step forward yesterday. Then we did. We showed some good

1679
01:29:43,467 --> 01:29:48,747
Speaker 7: signs last week against the Hurricanes and whilst it was

1680
01:29:48,787 --> 01:29:51,787
Speaker 7: good to get some more minutes into the lads yesterday

1681
01:29:51,827 --> 01:29:54,187
Speaker 7: and the Alblets come back and they and they put

1682
01:29:54,227 --> 01:29:58,547
Speaker 7: in a pretty decent shift in the second half. Yeah,

1683
01:29:58,587 --> 01:30:00,227
Speaker 7: we didn't quite know the things I think that we've

1684
01:30:00,267 --> 01:30:03,547
Speaker 7: worked on in the week. So what's a big, big

1685
01:30:03,627 --> 01:30:05,947
Speaker 7: focus on on this week as we head up to Blues.

1686
01:30:05,987 --> 01:30:08,667
Speaker 7: But from a squad perspective, we know we've got depth,

1687
01:30:08,747 --> 01:30:12,707
Speaker 7: we know we've got quality, and if we're now the basics,

1688
01:30:12,747 --> 01:30:15,347
Speaker 7: well then we'll give ourselves a decent chance that being

1689
01:30:15,387 --> 01:30:15,947
Speaker 7: there at the end.

1690
01:30:16,467 --> 01:30:18,427
Speaker 2: So it was the basics yesterday? What were they the

1691
01:30:18,547 --> 01:30:22,027
Speaker 2: things that you had hoped for better improvement on?

1692
01:30:23,867 --> 01:30:25,667
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think so, mate, Like I scrub and line

1693
01:30:25,707 --> 01:30:30,667
Speaker 7: out functioned pretty well, just the basic fundamentals, just your carry,

1694
01:30:30,707 --> 01:30:35,947
Speaker 7: clean game, skill, execution under pressure, some decision making and

1695
01:30:36,107 --> 01:30:37,427
Speaker 7: nothing that we can't iron out.

1696
01:30:37,627 --> 01:30:37,867
Speaker 5: Was just.

1697
01:30:39,507 --> 01:30:41,707
Speaker 7: Disappointing that we didn't take that step forward I think

1698
01:30:42,787 --> 01:30:46,347
Speaker 7: from last week. So con sort of senset amongst the

1699
01:30:46,387 --> 01:30:49,747
Speaker 7: players yesterday. But you know, weeks a long time in rugby.

1700
01:30:49,867 --> 01:30:52,267
Speaker 7: So as I said, no doubt, we'll iron a few

1701
01:30:52,307 --> 01:30:53,827
Speaker 7: things out and be better against the Booths.

1702
01:30:53,907 --> 01:30:57,147
Speaker 2: Will need to be no Wallace the TT this season.

1703
01:30:57,507 --> 01:30:58,827
Speaker 2: How big a blow is that for you?

1704
01:31:00,467 --> 01:31:04,307
Speaker 7: By a big blow? You know, it's Fairy special players

1705
01:31:04,307 --> 01:31:07,307
Speaker 7: and he's sort of exploded on the scene last year

1706
01:31:07,387 --> 01:31:10,147
Speaker 7: for the Chiefs and was able to go to another

1707
01:31:10,267 --> 01:31:13,547
Speaker 7: level throughout the international season. He's got a real point

1708
01:31:13,587 --> 01:31:18,307
Speaker 7: of difference around his athleticism and skill, so you know

1709
01:31:18,427 --> 01:31:20,947
Speaker 7: we'll miss them. But by the same toaken, we were

1710
01:31:21,027 --> 01:31:23,467
Speaker 7: really pleased with the depth of our loose forwards. We've

1711
01:31:23,507 --> 01:31:27,587
Speaker 7: got people that can play multiple positions and it's going

1712
01:31:27,667 --> 01:31:29,187
Speaker 7: to be a real dogfight for the guys that we

1713
01:31:29,307 --> 01:31:31,307
Speaker 7: got to in an opportunity to play each week.

1714
01:31:31,387 --> 01:31:34,107
Speaker 12: So yeah, well Muslim, but life goes on as.

1715
01:31:34,027 --> 01:31:37,947
Speaker 7: It always does. Every team, you know, loses players, influential

1716
01:31:37,987 --> 01:31:40,587
Speaker 7: players in their squad, and we're no different.

1717
01:31:41,187 --> 01:31:42,547
Speaker 2: Just before we move on from him, can you just

1718
01:31:42,627 --> 01:31:44,667
Speaker 2: clarify did you know that he'd picked up an injury

1719
01:31:44,707 --> 01:31:46,827
Speaker 2: on the All Black s end of season tour last year?

1720
01:31:46,827 --> 01:31:49,947
Speaker 2: I read some comments from you. Were you fully aware

1721
01:31:50,027 --> 01:31:51,627
Speaker 2: of the injury he'd picked up?

1722
01:31:53,827 --> 01:31:56,027
Speaker 7: We're weare. Were just probably weren't aware of the extent.

1723
01:31:56,267 --> 01:31:59,547
Speaker 7: I don't think anybody did. To be perfectly fair, He's

1724
01:31:59,787 --> 01:32:03,187
Speaker 7: pretty tough and resilient young men. So what he presented

1725
01:32:03,267 --> 01:32:05,107
Speaker 7: with was just your sort of normal wear and tear.

1726
01:32:05,187 --> 01:32:10,027
Speaker 7: Injury wasn't until it was and so it was scanned

1727
01:32:10,067 --> 01:32:12,627
Speaker 7: that you know that the extent of the injury became

1728
01:32:14,267 --> 01:32:18,747
Speaker 7: truly known, and yeah, and so there was a it

1729
01:32:18,867 --> 01:32:19,987
Speaker 7: was a surprise to everybody.

1730
01:32:20,387 --> 01:32:23,307
Speaker 2: All Right, we wish you may speedy recovery. Let's look

1731
01:32:23,307 --> 01:32:25,947
Speaker 2: at some of the players you've brought in. Josh Jacob's

1732
01:32:25,987 --> 01:32:28,387
Speaker 2: been in your environment. Obviously, he was promoted from the

1733
01:32:28,427 --> 01:32:31,987
Speaker 2: wider training group last year, played four games full time

1734
01:32:32,067 --> 01:32:33,907
Speaker 2: contract this year. How do you make sure he gets

1735
01:32:33,947 --> 01:32:36,787
Speaker 2: good opportunities Clayton when he plays in the same position

1736
01:32:36,867 --> 01:32:37,907
Speaker 2: as Damien McKenzie.

1737
01:32:41,467 --> 01:32:44,227
Speaker 7: It's a balancing act, but ultimately it comes down to

1738
01:32:44,307 --> 01:32:47,467
Speaker 7: nailing your opportunities when you get them. So you know,

1739
01:32:47,627 --> 01:32:50,067
Speaker 7: nobody in our team has a rider passage to pulling

1740
01:32:50,067 --> 01:32:53,747
Speaker 7: on the jersey. It's earned through time in the jersey.

1741
01:32:54,307 --> 01:32:58,387
Speaker 7: What you what you deliver it training and ultimately you

1742
01:32:58,467 --> 01:33:00,947
Speaker 7: know what you can produce when given an opportunity to

1743
01:33:00,987 --> 01:33:04,107
Speaker 7: get out on the field. So he's talented young men,

1744
01:33:04,307 --> 01:33:08,867
Speaker 7: you know, he's competitor, competitor and pace certainly not there

1745
01:33:08,907 --> 01:33:10,907
Speaker 7: to just make up the numbers and roll over and

1746
01:33:10,987 --> 01:33:12,347
Speaker 7: give Damien that pre vide.

1747
01:33:12,427 --> 01:33:14,347
Speaker 12: So looking forward to that battle.

1748
01:33:14,507 --> 01:33:16,147
Speaker 7: You know the other person in the mix of his

1749
01:33:16,347 --> 01:33:19,547
Speaker 7: you know, Caleb Trask, who's had an unfortunate sort of

1750
01:33:19,587 --> 01:33:22,467
Speaker 7: run of injuries, just welcomed the new baby over the

1751
01:33:22,587 --> 01:33:25,947
Speaker 7: last couple of days. But he's another one who's got

1752
01:33:26,827 --> 01:33:29,467
Speaker 7: who looked really good. I thought last year running a

1753
01:33:29,547 --> 01:33:31,627
Speaker 7: Cardiff a bar Penny at ten and he could come

1754
01:33:31,667 --> 01:33:34,467
Speaker 7: into the equation too. So we're blessed in the net spot,

1755
01:33:35,307 --> 01:33:37,147
Speaker 7: but it will course cause us a few headaches just

1756
01:33:37,227 --> 01:33:39,307
Speaker 7: making sure we get the balance of given them game time.

1757
01:33:39,747 --> 01:33:41,547
Speaker 2: Hell is Damien McKenzie looking.

1758
01:33:43,587 --> 01:33:45,747
Speaker 7: No, he looked you know, he looked fresh and as

1759
01:33:45,867 --> 01:33:49,787
Speaker 7: normal usual self. Yesterday has did all the all blacks.

1760
01:33:49,827 --> 01:33:52,547
Speaker 7: I think they recognize that they've come and you know,

1761
01:33:52,667 --> 01:33:55,187
Speaker 7: fairly late in the police. I've only had sort of

1762
01:33:55,227 --> 01:33:58,387
Speaker 7: a week and a half pool training, played forty minutes

1763
01:33:58,427 --> 01:34:01,427
Speaker 7: yesterday and they could see that the balance of the

1764
01:34:01,467 --> 01:34:03,187
Speaker 7: rest of the squad have done the hard yards pre

1765
01:34:03,347 --> 01:34:06,467
Speaker 7: Christmas and post Christmas of work bat really hard. A

1766
01:34:06,507 --> 01:34:08,587
Speaker 7: little bit behind the eight well, not not necessarily in

1767
01:34:08,707 --> 01:34:10,867
Speaker 7: terms of conditioning, but just getting up the speed with

1768
01:34:11,067 --> 01:34:12,867
Speaker 7: some of the adjustments that we've made in the game.

1769
01:34:14,347 --> 01:34:16,987
Speaker 7: And you know, they showed a Williams yesterday and make

1770
01:34:17,027 --> 01:34:19,427
Speaker 7: sure that they're in the in the mixer come selection

1771
01:34:19,547 --> 01:34:20,067
Speaker 7: for next week.

1772
01:34:20,467 --> 01:34:22,267
Speaker 2: Do you have a time frame, Clayton for the return

1773
01:34:22,347 --> 01:34:23,867
Speaker 2: of Summersauny Tokyojo.

1774
01:34:25,867 --> 01:34:29,267
Speaker 7: He's looking really positive. To be feared, had a set

1775
01:34:29,347 --> 01:34:33,307
Speaker 7: back early on in as rehead, but you know he's

1776
01:34:33,707 --> 01:34:40,227
Speaker 7: he's been really diligentary and as rehead he's progressing really nicely.

1777
01:34:40,387 --> 01:34:44,147
Speaker 7: He's almost back into full training, so we anticipate that

1778
01:34:44,267 --> 01:34:47,667
Speaker 7: sort of around three to four three or four he

1779
01:34:47,747 --> 01:34:50,987
Speaker 7: could likely return. But of course it's it's one of

1780
01:34:51,067 --> 01:34:52,747
Speaker 7: those injuries to a front rower that you want to

1781
01:34:52,787 --> 01:34:55,307
Speaker 7: make sure you get one hundred percent right. So if

1782
01:34:55,347 --> 01:34:58,947
Speaker 7: it happens to extend by a week or two, you know,

1783
01:34:59,067 --> 01:35:01,067
Speaker 7: to to ensure that he's one hundred percent and then's

1784
01:35:01,067 --> 01:35:01,427
Speaker 7: what we'll do.

1785
01:35:02,267 --> 01:35:05,267
Speaker 2: And you and New Zealand Rugby presumably have allowed Sewan

1786
01:35:05,347 --> 01:35:07,467
Speaker 2: Stevenson to have a brief sabbatical in Japan. He all

1787
01:35:07,507 --> 01:35:10,227
Speaker 2: missed the opening three weeks of the season. How did

1788
01:35:10,267 --> 01:35:11,627
Speaker 2: you arrive at that decision?

1789
01:35:15,307 --> 01:35:20,307
Speaker 7: Just common sense prevailed. I think you know, we we

1790
01:35:22,947 --> 01:35:26,267
Speaker 7: were we were always aware that Sean had an appetite

1791
01:35:26,307 --> 01:35:28,547
Speaker 7: and want to head overseas, if not this year, then

1792
01:35:28,587 --> 01:35:31,347
Speaker 7: next year. So it wasn't like we were blindsided by it.

1793
01:35:31,987 --> 01:35:34,467
Speaker 7: It was really just that the request came at a

1794
01:35:34,627 --> 01:35:39,067
Speaker 7: very late stage. Given an injury or a departure of

1795
01:35:39,387 --> 01:35:42,067
Speaker 7: a player from Camboda, the team that he's gone to,

1796
01:35:42,187 --> 01:35:44,747
Speaker 7: that that came through really late, and it's kind of

1797
01:35:45,747 --> 01:35:48,227
Speaker 7: didn't really allow time to go and find, you know,

1798
01:35:49,307 --> 01:35:53,347
Speaker 7: a suitable replacement, and so it wasn't it was never

1799
01:35:53,427 --> 01:35:56,187
Speaker 7: a case of not wanting Shoulder to go, but but

1800
01:35:56,347 --> 01:36:00,907
Speaker 7: but finding a balance between him going and us being

1801
01:36:00,947 --> 01:36:04,747
Speaker 7: able to find a replacement. And so that that part

1802
01:36:04,827 --> 01:36:07,707
Speaker 7: didn't really quite work out. But all parties, using repe

1803
01:36:07,787 --> 01:36:12,627
Speaker 7: included as said, comes to a sensible conclusion that we

1804
01:36:12,747 --> 01:36:14,587
Speaker 7: can accept them going up and dipping his toes in

1805
01:36:14,627 --> 01:36:17,227
Speaker 7: the water and helping out Coboda in their time of need,

1806
01:36:17,987 --> 01:36:20,907
Speaker 7: and then having them come back to us fit, ready

1807
01:36:20,987 --> 01:36:27,307
Speaker 7: to go and no doubt sort of keen to, you know,

1808
01:36:27,427 --> 01:36:29,747
Speaker 7: get that one hundred game cap for the Chiefs, which

1809
01:36:29,747 --> 01:36:31,867
Speaker 7: I think is about four games away from achieving. So

1810
01:36:31,947 --> 01:36:34,307
Speaker 7: we've got every confidence he'll come back and just fit

1811
01:36:34,427 --> 01:36:36,627
Speaker 7: in like a lucky glove.

1812
01:36:37,307 --> 01:36:39,467
Speaker 2: And you look back at the last two seasons, you've

1813
01:36:39,507 --> 01:36:42,147
Speaker 2: lost just eight of your thirty four games in the

1814
01:36:42,227 --> 01:36:45,987
Speaker 2: last two seasons. Unfortunately two of those were Grand Finals.

1815
01:36:46,067 --> 01:36:48,307
Speaker 2: So how do you make sure that it's third time

1816
01:36:48,387 --> 01:36:49,547
Speaker 2: Lucky in twenty twenty five.

1817
01:36:52,947 --> 01:36:55,467
Speaker 7: Just to be honest around where you're at with your game.

1818
01:36:56,987 --> 01:36:58,987
Speaker 7: We've got no dramas about our squad. We feel like

1819
01:36:59,027 --> 01:37:00,947
Speaker 7: we've got the squad that can take us deep into

1820
01:37:00,987 --> 01:37:06,307
Speaker 7: the competition finals show that. You know, it's about who

1821
01:37:06,427 --> 01:37:09,987
Speaker 7: can deliver a performance on the day. But but some

1822
01:37:10,187 --> 01:37:14,067
Speaker 7: things are slightly different. You know, as you get towards

1823
01:37:14,107 --> 01:37:18,667
Speaker 7: the back end of the season, the game tightens up.

1824
01:37:19,347 --> 01:37:23,267
Speaker 7: It's the way it starts to come into can can

1825
01:37:23,347 --> 01:37:26,907
Speaker 7: come into the equations. So we still want to we

1826
01:37:26,947 --> 01:37:30,187
Speaker 7: don't want to change fundamentally how we play Chiefs rugby,

1827
01:37:30,267 --> 01:37:32,227
Speaker 7: which is, you know, give the ball some there and

1828
01:37:32,387 --> 01:37:35,787
Speaker 7: and have a go and ask our players to be courageous,

1829
01:37:36,587 --> 01:37:41,747
Speaker 7: but also recognize that teams understand what what it looks

1830
01:37:41,787 --> 01:37:45,747
Speaker 7: like when we're playing well and how they can impose

1831
01:37:45,867 --> 01:37:48,547
Speaker 7: their game on us to potentially suffocate us. And that

1832
01:37:48,907 --> 01:37:50,627
Speaker 7: and that that means that we've got to evolve and

1833
01:37:50,747 --> 01:37:54,147
Speaker 7: get better and have other games that we can go

1834
01:37:54,307 --> 01:37:56,667
Speaker 7: to when it when you know, when the situation or

1835
01:37:56,747 --> 01:38:00,067
Speaker 7: the or the moment requires. So there's been our focuses

1836
01:38:00,267 --> 01:38:06,107
Speaker 7: around growing our overall game. Whilst they true to our identity's.

1837
01:38:04,907 --> 01:38:07,307
Speaker 2: She all the best the twenty twenty five Clayton, thanks

1838
01:38:07,347 --> 01:38:09,667
Speaker 2: for joining us, look forward to catching up throughout the season. Yea,

1839
01:38:11,147 --> 01:38:12,947
Speaker 2: you have a great day too, Clayton. Thanks indeed, Clayton

1840
01:38:13,027 --> 01:38:15,867
Speaker 2: McMillan there, head coach of the Chiefs. So they start

1841
01:38:15,987 --> 01:38:20,107
Speaker 2: against the Blues re match replay of last year's Grand

1842
01:38:20,187 --> 01:38:24,827
Speaker 2: Final that is on Saturday night at Eden Park, and

1843
01:38:24,947 --> 01:38:28,027
Speaker 2: then at home to the Crusaders, at home to the

1844
01:38:28,107 --> 01:38:31,587
Speaker 2: Brumbies and up to Latoka to take on the Fijian Drewer.

1845
01:38:31,907 --> 01:38:35,147
Speaker 2: That's the opening month for the Chiefs. If Wallace a

1846
01:38:35,227 --> 01:38:38,267
Speaker 2: Teiti was fit, they would for me be firm favorites.

1847
01:38:39,507 --> 01:38:42,707
Speaker 2: I think the tab have the Blues as favorites. I

1848
01:38:42,827 --> 01:38:45,547
Speaker 2: think the Chiefs and I think I said this last year.

1849
01:38:45,587 --> 01:38:47,627
Speaker 2: I think the Chiefs are super rugby favorites. Again, you

1850
01:38:47,707 --> 01:38:50,707
Speaker 2: look at the roster, the Blues and the Chiefs seem

1851
01:38:50,747 --> 01:38:54,987
Speaker 2: to me to be the two best teams going into

1852
01:38:55,987 --> 01:38:59,507
Speaker 2: twenty twenty five. I know that means little when the

1853
01:38:59,827 --> 01:39:04,067
Speaker 2: season starts and injuries happen and all that sort of thing,

1854
01:39:04,187 --> 01:39:11,027
Speaker 2: but feel like it's the Chief's time again. I'm almost

1855
01:39:11,107 --> 01:39:12,907
Speaker 2: certain I would have said last year at this time,

1856
01:39:12,947 --> 01:39:15,467
Speaker 2: you've got to lose one to win one. Because the

1857
01:39:15,587 --> 01:39:18,387
Speaker 2: Chiefs had lost the final and twenty twenty three to

1858
01:39:18,587 --> 01:39:22,187
Speaker 2: the Crusaders. They lost the twenty twenty four final to

1859
01:39:22,307 --> 01:39:24,627
Speaker 2: the Blues, so maybe you've got to lose two to

1860
01:39:24,707 --> 01:39:27,907
Speaker 2: win one. I don't know. Still them, you know they'll

1861
01:39:27,907 --> 01:39:31,787
Speaker 2: be there or thereabouts. Just eight losses in the last

1862
01:39:31,827 --> 01:39:36,747
Speaker 2: two seasons. That's thirty four games, fourteen regular season, three

1863
01:39:36,827 --> 01:39:39,347
Speaker 2: playoff games in each of the last two seasons. Have

1864
01:39:39,507 --> 01:39:43,987
Speaker 2: made two straight grand finals without winning one. Chiefs twenty

1865
01:39:44,067 --> 01:39:49,107
Speaker 2: twenty five your year, maybe I think their favorite two

1866
01:39:49,227 --> 01:39:51,107
Speaker 2: twenty four News Talk said, be let's take a break,

1867
01:39:51,147 --> 01:39:54,107
Speaker 2: come back and head down south. Jamie Joseph back at

1868
01:39:54,147 --> 01:39:56,107
Speaker 2: the helm of the Highlanders. How's he feeling about that?

1869
01:39:56,307 --> 01:40:01,227
Speaker 2: And how are the Highlanders placed for a for a

1870
01:40:01,307 --> 01:40:03,987
Speaker 2: bit of an injection, a boost, maybe a you know,

1871
01:40:05,227 --> 01:40:07,587
Speaker 2: get them back up to where they were when Jamie

1872
01:40:07,667 --> 01:40:10,987
Speaker 2: Joseph was last there in the mid twenty tens. Can

1873
01:40:11,027 --> 01:40:12,947
Speaker 2: you see it happening? Jamie Joseph on the show right

1874
01:40:12,987 --> 01:40:13,307
Speaker 2: after this?

1875
01:40:14,067 --> 01:40:17,547
Speaker 1: The biggest things in sports are on Weekend Sports with

1876
01:40:17,747 --> 01:40:21,867
Speaker 1: Jason Paine and GJ. Gunnerholmes, New Zealand's most trusted home

1877
01:40:21,907 --> 01:40:22,707
Speaker 1: builder News.

1878
01:40:22,627 --> 01:40:26,987
Speaker 2: Talks EDB two twenty seven on News Talks EDB. So

1879
01:40:27,107 --> 01:40:29,467
Speaker 2: we've been to the Blues, We've been to the Crusaders,

1880
01:40:29,587 --> 01:40:32,987
Speaker 2: to Mwana Pacifica, to the Hurricanes and to the Chiefs.

1881
01:40:33,107 --> 01:40:37,107
Speaker 2: So let's finish our rap of super rugby coach chats

1882
01:40:37,267 --> 01:40:39,307
Speaker 2: with the Highlanders. Trying to find the space.

1883
01:40:39,467 --> 01:40:40,707
Speaker 11: He's starting a little camp.

1884
01:40:40,587 --> 01:40:43,907
Speaker 2: Helps camp fella camp.

1885
01:40:43,787 --> 01:40:44,587
Speaker 5: Feller's got one.

1886
01:40:44,907 --> 01:40:47,107
Speaker 2: Oh goodness, gracious be it.

1887
01:40:47,307 --> 01:40:48,547
Speaker 5: I went for the heartedness.

1888
01:40:48,867 --> 01:40:50,227
Speaker 2: They tanked them four points.

1889
01:40:50,547 --> 01:40:53,747
Speaker 13: They worked hard. It was Champagne rugby from.

1890
01:40:53,627 --> 01:40:57,987
Speaker 2: The opening whistle. Highlander's head coach is Jamie Joseph, who

1891
01:40:58,067 --> 01:41:00,067
Speaker 2: joins us now. Jamie, thanks for taking the time for

1892
01:41:00,147 --> 01:41:03,147
Speaker 2: a chat. You've moved from ahead of rugby role with

1893
01:41:03,227 --> 01:41:06,827
Speaker 2: the Highlanders last year to the head coach role that

1894
01:41:06,867 --> 01:41:09,107
Speaker 2: you held for six years from twenty eleven to twenty

1895
01:41:09,187 --> 01:41:13,107
Speaker 2: sixteen inclusive. Is that head coaching role one that you're

1896
01:41:13,147 --> 01:41:13,947
Speaker 2: a bit happier in.

1897
01:41:15,707 --> 01:41:17,747
Speaker 6: Well, it's a it's a it's a club that I'm

1898
01:41:17,747 --> 01:41:20,427
Speaker 6: really passionate about, Jason, and it's nice to be home.

1899
01:41:21,227 --> 01:41:23,547
Speaker 6: Being away for I guess that's a long time. And

1900
01:41:23,627 --> 01:41:26,467
Speaker 6: then coming back into the club that I that I left.

1901
01:41:27,307 --> 01:41:29,867
Speaker 6: It's really nice, really nice field to be back. Obviously,

1902
01:41:29,947 --> 01:41:31,787
Speaker 6: the players a little bit younger. I'm a little bit older,

1903
01:41:31,827 --> 01:41:34,987
Speaker 6: but no, really really exciting to get back into it.

1904
01:41:35,427 --> 01:41:37,467
Speaker 2: And as far as the change of role is concerned,

1905
01:41:38,307 --> 01:41:41,307
Speaker 2: I presume you'll have a lot more hands on contact

1906
01:41:41,347 --> 01:41:44,187
Speaker 2: this time around last year. Was that was there any

1907
01:41:44,227 --> 01:41:46,387
Speaker 2: opportunity for you to have a real on the grass

1908
01:41:46,427 --> 01:41:47,627
Speaker 2: impact with the team or not?

1909
01:41:47,747 --> 01:41:51,747
Speaker 6: Really? No, No, my role last last year really was

1910
01:41:54,107 --> 01:41:57,427
Speaker 6: really was just the assis the club. There's these new owners.

1911
01:41:57,667 --> 01:42:02,907
Speaker 6: I'm obviously excited about about the future. So with new owners,

1912
01:42:02,987 --> 01:42:05,547
Speaker 6: you know, you get a new board, a new chairman.

1913
01:42:05,667 --> 01:42:07,427
Speaker 6: So that was one part of it. The other part

1914
01:42:07,427 --> 01:42:12,467
Speaker 6: of it had a very i guess a relatively inexperienced them,

1915
01:42:12,587 --> 01:42:16,547
Speaker 6: particularly with with heat coaching. So Clark is a fine coach,

1916
01:42:16,627 --> 01:42:18,827
Speaker 6: has been around and coaching the Honds for some years,

1917
01:42:18,867 --> 01:42:21,067
Speaker 6: but it was invest and so giving him some support

1918
01:42:21,147 --> 01:42:23,587
Speaker 6: and the coaching teams and support was a big part

1919
01:42:23,627 --> 01:42:27,507
Speaker 6: of my role. I mean, I guess just looking looking

1920
01:42:27,547 --> 01:42:29,627
Speaker 6: at the recruitment side of things was another big part

1921
01:42:29,667 --> 01:42:32,227
Speaker 6: of it. So looking looking for the future, looking at

1922
01:42:32,267 --> 01:42:34,227
Speaker 6: young guys, and trying to bring them back down to

1923
01:42:34,307 --> 01:42:35,627
Speaker 6: the South to play for the Honders.

1924
01:42:36,147 --> 01:42:38,947
Speaker 2: You prefer being on the grass and in an office,

1925
01:42:38,987 --> 01:42:39,387
Speaker 2: wouldn't you.

1926
01:42:40,547 --> 01:42:44,747
Speaker 6: Yeah, well, yeah, yeah, Well the head of rg B

1927
01:42:44,907 --> 01:42:47,187
Speaker 6: thing wasn't something I sought after, was something that the

1928
01:42:47,267 --> 01:42:49,947
Speaker 6: club approached me with and asked me if I was interested.

1929
01:42:50,707 --> 01:42:53,867
Speaker 6: To be fair, I was. I was pretty pretty tired

1930
01:42:53,907 --> 01:42:56,427
Speaker 6: after being away for such a long time too World

1931
01:42:56,427 --> 01:42:59,867
Speaker 6: Cup campaigns, so I was reasonably had with just having,

1932
01:43:00,107 --> 01:43:01,747
Speaker 6: you know, having a bit of a break from coaching.

1933
01:43:01,867 --> 01:43:03,907
Speaker 6: But this role, I guess allowed me to have a

1934
01:43:03,947 --> 01:43:06,227
Speaker 6: look at the club and in assess where it was,

1935
01:43:06,587 --> 01:43:09,747
Speaker 6: and then you know, and then when this opportunity came

1936
01:43:09,787 --> 01:43:12,267
Speaker 6: in to get back on the craft, I obviously grabbed it.

1937
01:43:12,707 --> 01:43:13,067
Speaker 6: All right.

1938
01:43:13,147 --> 01:43:15,427
Speaker 2: So you've been mo Onea PACIFICA and the Crusaders and

1939
01:43:15,507 --> 01:43:19,307
Speaker 2: two preseason games, so I know results aren't necessarily important,

1940
01:43:19,347 --> 01:43:21,707
Speaker 2: but did you get everything you wanted out of those

1941
01:43:21,707 --> 01:43:22,187
Speaker 2: two games?

1942
01:43:23,747 --> 01:43:24,467
Speaker 3: Yeah? Well, yeah, yeah.

1943
01:43:24,547 --> 01:43:26,907
Speaker 6: You've trained for a couple of months over getting the

1944
01:43:26,947 --> 01:43:29,027
Speaker 6: guys first, and that's a big part of the preseason,

1945
01:43:29,107 --> 01:43:30,747
Speaker 6: and then that sort of culminates in a couple of

1946
01:43:31,267 --> 01:43:33,867
Speaker 6: couple of matches where you try to give everyone a run.

1947
01:43:34,147 --> 01:43:37,507
Speaker 6: And in the Minor Pacific, you know, both both teams

1948
01:43:37,587 --> 01:43:41,867
Speaker 6: had a real open posse around around change. We had

1949
01:43:41,987 --> 01:43:44,307
Speaker 6: thirty two players, they had about forty five players, so

1950
01:43:44,667 --> 01:43:47,107
Speaker 6: it never really the game was quite missy, but the

1951
01:43:47,147 --> 01:43:50,707
Speaker 6: game against Crusaders was more of a match and more

1952
01:43:50,747 --> 01:43:53,107
Speaker 6: of a real sort of test around where we were.

1953
01:43:53,307 --> 01:43:56,947
Speaker 6: So we're reasonably proud about their performance. But we lost

1954
01:43:56,947 --> 01:43:59,147
Speaker 6: a couple of players, and I think they lost a

1955
01:43:59,147 --> 01:44:01,987
Speaker 6: couple of players as well, so quite costly in terms of,

1956
01:44:02,587 --> 01:44:05,347
Speaker 6: you know, injuries, and for both sides.

1957
01:44:05,867 --> 01:44:08,507
Speaker 2: Anyone you're going to lose for a long time or

1958
01:44:08,507 --> 01:44:11,027
Speaker 2: are they more sort of minor niggles.

1959
01:44:12,387 --> 01:44:18,987
Speaker 6: Yeah, look it's it's with Nriki Joan and Ricqui. Kakie

1960
01:44:19,747 --> 01:44:21,747
Speaker 6: already made the sub and he rolled his ankle and

1961
01:44:21,827 --> 01:44:25,667
Speaker 6: the kind of his last play, and initially it looked okay,

1962
01:44:25,787 --> 01:44:27,147
Speaker 6: but then he woke up the next morning and it

1963
01:44:27,187 --> 01:44:30,787
Speaker 6: was quite swollen and sore, and so that's that looks

1964
01:44:31,147 --> 01:44:33,707
Speaker 6: that looks at least, you know, three to four weeks.

1965
01:44:34,507 --> 01:44:37,867
Speaker 6: And then we've got a player tick held and stranger's

1966
01:44:37,867 --> 01:44:40,507
Speaker 6: hamstring and I mean they can be neglie, but they

1967
01:44:40,547 --> 01:44:44,147
Speaker 6: can also turn around reasonably fast as well, so when

1968
01:44:44,227 --> 01:44:46,387
Speaker 6: when the players come back into work tomorrow, we'll have

1969
01:44:46,507 --> 01:44:47,387
Speaker 6: more of an idea.

1970
01:44:47,147 --> 01:44:49,827
Speaker 2: Where we are all right, we'll wish them a speedy recovery.

1971
01:44:50,347 --> 01:44:52,787
Speaker 2: In a squad with with fewer all blacks than the

1972
01:44:52,827 --> 01:44:55,867
Speaker 2: other New Zealand sides, how much more important are guys

1973
01:44:56,067 --> 01:44:58,627
Speaker 2: like Ethan de Group for example, full our fuckatava those

1974
01:44:58,827 --> 01:45:00,227
Speaker 2: who have worn the black jersey.

1975
01:45:01,947 --> 01:45:03,707
Speaker 6: Yeah, well, I think you grab hold of all of

1976
01:45:03,747 --> 01:45:09,667
Speaker 6: your experienced players. So our average age was waked us out.

1977
01:45:09,707 --> 01:45:13,667
Speaker 6: It's twenty two point four, so very young team. Ethan

1978
01:45:14,267 --> 01:45:16,747
Speaker 6: a massive impact on the team obviously because he's our

1979
01:45:16,787 --> 01:45:19,587
Speaker 6: season all black, but he and he just joined us

1980
01:45:19,667 --> 01:45:23,067
Speaker 6: last week as well, so he's been absent for the

1981
01:45:23,147 --> 01:45:27,907
Speaker 6: whole whole preseason flow, just you know, recovering from a

1982
01:45:27,987 --> 01:45:31,267
Speaker 6: knee operation after last year's inn PC he was he

1983
01:45:31,427 --> 01:45:35,827
Speaker 6: was out for pretty much all of the preseasons. So yeah, look,

1984
01:45:35,987 --> 01:45:40,307
Speaker 6: they're obviously huge for our side, but we've had to

1985
01:45:40,347 --> 01:45:43,227
Speaker 6: go ahead without them really and start to build a

1986
01:45:43,307 --> 01:45:47,307
Speaker 6: team without that experience, and I guess that's become a

1987
01:45:47,427 --> 01:45:50,147
Speaker 6: slight advantage because the fact that we don't have a

1988
01:45:50,187 --> 01:45:52,227
Speaker 6: lot of war Blacks and a lot of guys out

1989
01:45:52,267 --> 01:45:55,107
Speaker 6: of out of out of training, we've we've pretty much

1990
01:45:55,147 --> 01:45:55,867
Speaker 6: got our group together.

1991
01:45:56,347 --> 01:45:58,667
Speaker 2: Well, I think one guy we all know will in

1992
01:45:58,747 --> 01:46:01,707
Speaker 2: all likelihood being all Black and probably for a while

1993
01:46:01,747 --> 01:46:04,027
Speaker 2: as Fabian Holland. He turned plenty of heads last year,

1994
01:46:04,467 --> 01:46:06,787
Speaker 2: call up to the All Blacks fifteen, had a standout

1995
01:46:06,827 --> 01:46:10,227
Speaker 2: performance against Munster, joined the All Blacks as an injury replacement.

1996
01:46:10,307 --> 01:46:13,067
Speaker 2: Still only twenty two, he's around that average that you

1997
01:46:13,227 --> 01:46:15,387
Speaker 2: talked about. What do you protect for him in the future.

1998
01:46:18,627 --> 01:46:21,027
Speaker 6: Yeah, look, I think you're right. I think he's got

1999
01:46:21,067 --> 01:46:23,147
Speaker 6: the partitial of being all Black. There's a few of

2000
01:46:23,187 --> 01:46:26,907
Speaker 6: those boys flowing around around New Zealand. I guess for

2001
01:46:27,067 --> 01:46:30,667
Speaker 6: Sam Darry as I understand, has got a season in

2002
01:46:30,667 --> 01:46:33,267
Speaker 6: an injury, which is unfortunate for for that player, but

2003
01:46:34,187 --> 01:46:37,027
Speaker 6: that sort of makes it makes the line a little

2004
01:46:37,027 --> 01:46:39,987
Speaker 6: bit less. But all I can really focus on with

2005
01:46:40,107 --> 01:46:43,747
Speaker 6: Fabian is there's very hungry and since he's been back

2006
01:46:43,787 --> 01:46:46,587
Speaker 6: with us, you know that hunger is showing out in

2007
01:46:46,707 --> 01:46:48,827
Speaker 6: terms of how he's preparing, how he's training. And then

2008
01:46:49,387 --> 01:46:52,187
Speaker 6: they played really well against the Crusaders. Is you know,

2009
01:46:52,267 --> 01:46:54,307
Speaker 6: it's a funny old game he's just got to, you know,

2010
01:46:54,627 --> 01:46:57,467
Speaker 6: get that consistency that the best players have and keep

2011
01:46:57,547 --> 01:46:59,307
Speaker 6: on turning in performances. And if he can do that,

2012
01:46:59,467 --> 01:47:01,787
Speaker 6: then yeah, that's going to really benefit the team.

2013
01:47:02,267 --> 01:47:04,347
Speaker 2: You're won super RBA. Of course, as Highland as head

2014
01:47:04,387 --> 01:47:07,827
Speaker 2: coach in twenty fifteen. Is there anything that's still key

2015
01:47:08,387 --> 01:47:11,747
Speaker 2: today Jamie to replicating that success a decade later?

2016
01:47:14,187 --> 01:47:16,707
Speaker 6: Well, the consistencies for the Highlanders as there were a

2017
01:47:16,787 --> 01:47:20,147
Speaker 6: team that predominantly recruits from outside the region. I think

2018
01:47:20,187 --> 01:47:23,027
Speaker 6: we've got about eight or nine percent of the playing

2019
01:47:23,107 --> 01:47:25,747
Speaker 6: based based down in Duneda and another cargo, so we

2020
01:47:25,867 --> 01:47:28,787
Speaker 6: go out of the region to get our players. Which

2021
01:47:28,867 --> 01:47:32,147
Speaker 6: is that which is the biggest challenge the lot myself.

2022
01:47:32,267 --> 01:47:33,907
Speaker 6: You know, a lot of the players come down here

2023
01:47:34,467 --> 01:47:37,027
Speaker 6: to apply their traders Rebby players and then end up

2024
01:47:37,067 --> 01:47:41,267
Speaker 6: having families and staying here. So as the consistencies, the

2025
01:47:41,307 --> 01:47:44,027
Speaker 6: people who we represent and play for are proud, they

2026
01:47:44,067 --> 01:47:46,947
Speaker 6: are proud Ragby people down here in the Deep South.

2027
01:47:48,067 --> 01:47:51,427
Speaker 6: We've always had quality coaches, you know, over the decades

2028
01:47:51,467 --> 01:47:55,267
Speaker 6: of rugby, and so those are kind of consistent themes

2029
01:47:55,707 --> 01:47:58,987
Speaker 6: if you like, that are always the same in Daneda.

2030
01:47:58,987 --> 01:48:00,827
Speaker 6: And then and what I found with the players and

2031
01:48:01,027 --> 01:48:03,587
Speaker 6: my time coaching instantly playing is that that's been quite

2032
01:48:03,667 --> 01:48:05,827
Speaker 6: enjoyable and the players actually really enjoy once they get

2033
01:48:05,867 --> 01:48:06,107
Speaker 6: used to it.

2034
01:48:06,547 --> 01:48:08,347
Speaker 2: I think I saw a photo with Tony Brown at

2035
01:48:08,387 --> 01:48:10,187
Speaker 2: one of your trainings this week. Is he there an

2036
01:48:10,227 --> 01:48:12,387
Speaker 2: official capacity or just helping out?

2037
01:48:13,947 --> 01:48:18,227
Speaker 6: Yeah, officially helping out, I guess you might. You might

2038
01:48:18,347 --> 01:48:21,387
Speaker 6: say he's obviously a local head and loves the team

2039
01:48:21,427 --> 01:48:24,827
Speaker 6: as well, loves the club, played played a little rugby

2040
01:48:24,947 --> 01:48:28,067
Speaker 6: for the Highlanders and coach the Hollanders with me, and

2041
01:48:28,267 --> 01:48:30,907
Speaker 6: his base is a coach overseas, so when he's home

2042
01:48:31,267 --> 01:48:34,627
Speaker 6: it's always nice to get him in to apply a

2043
01:48:34,867 --> 01:48:37,667
Speaker 6: peer of fresh eyes over the crew and give the

2044
01:48:37,707 --> 01:48:41,707
Speaker 6: coaches some feedback and and he's a really experienced good

2045
01:48:41,707 --> 01:48:43,267
Speaker 6: back and say this nice dad Momble.

2046
01:48:43,787 --> 01:48:45,947
Speaker 2: Great to have you back in the head coaching role, Jamie.

2047
01:48:45,987 --> 01:48:47,427
Speaker 2: All the best for the season they had, Mate, Really

2048
01:48:47,427 --> 01:48:50,107
Speaker 2: appreciate you taking the time for a chat, good man.

2049
01:48:50,227 --> 01:48:53,227
Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you, Jamie. Jamie Joseph there wrapping our

2050
01:48:53,307 --> 01:48:57,547
Speaker 2: wrap of super Rugby head coaches. Just before we carry on,

2051
01:48:57,627 --> 01:49:00,027
Speaker 2: I just want to thank all six of the franchises

2052
01:49:00,067 --> 01:49:02,867
Speaker 2: and their respective media teams for making the six head

2053
01:49:02,907 --> 01:49:04,467
Speaker 2: coaches available to us. I know it's a bit of

2054
01:49:04,507 --> 01:49:10,187
Speaker 2: an undertaking to to get guys to chat to us

2055
01:49:10,707 --> 01:49:12,507
Speaker 2: at times when they are, many of them on a

2056
01:49:12,627 --> 01:49:15,907
Speaker 2: day off, so we do appreciate their accessibility to us.

2057
01:49:15,987 --> 01:49:19,067
Speaker 2: For the Highlanders, they start with a game against the Waratars.

2058
01:49:19,387 --> 01:49:23,067
Speaker 2: It's actually on opening night. We've got the Crusaders Hurricanes

2059
01:49:23,107 --> 01:49:26,427
Speaker 2: first of all, and then straight away the Highlanders against

2060
01:49:26,467 --> 01:49:29,627
Speaker 2: the Waratars, so that's Friday night, then at home to

2061
01:49:29,707 --> 01:49:33,347
Speaker 2: the Blues the following week away at Mona Pacifica and

2062
01:49:33,427 --> 01:49:36,387
Speaker 2: then the bye for the Highlanders. So three games and

2063
01:49:36,427 --> 01:49:39,627
Speaker 2: then they get a bye, so it's I wouldn't say

2064
01:49:39,707 --> 01:49:43,227
Speaker 2: the most arduous of starts. I think they'd backed themselves

2065
01:49:43,307 --> 01:49:45,827
Speaker 2: certainly to go to the Waratars end probably Mojana Pacifica

2066
01:49:45,867 --> 01:49:47,787
Speaker 2: and get wins and then under the roof in Dunedin

2067
01:49:48,347 --> 01:49:51,507
Speaker 2: first home game, who knows what might happen against the Blues.

2068
01:49:51,587 --> 01:49:54,987
Speaker 2: Jamie Joseph is a very very powerful force when it

2069
01:49:55,027 --> 01:49:58,307
Speaker 2: comes to rugby. We all know this. We know his record.

2070
01:49:59,187 --> 01:50:02,227
Speaker 2: He's won Super Rugby before, albeit a decade ago with

2071
01:50:02,347 --> 01:50:06,187
Speaker 2: the same team. He absolutely loves the region and that

2072
01:50:06,467 --> 01:50:12,427
Speaker 2: rugby team and the fans who follow the Highlanders internationally.

2073
01:50:12,587 --> 01:50:15,027
Speaker 2: He and Tony Brown obviously what they did with Japan,

2074
01:50:16,787 --> 01:50:20,747
Speaker 2: it could be a big, big, you know, game changer

2075
01:50:20,787 --> 01:50:23,427
Speaker 2: for them getting Jamie Joseph back into that head coaching role.

2076
01:50:23,827 --> 01:50:26,587
Speaker 2: We wait and see that. I guess the cattle is

2077
01:50:26,627 --> 01:50:28,507
Speaker 2: the thing, right. It doesn't matter how good a coach

2078
01:50:28,547 --> 01:50:30,747
Speaker 2: you are, you can only work with the cattle that

2079
01:50:30,867 --> 01:50:33,547
Speaker 2: you have. And there's no denying that. Of all of

2080
01:50:33,627 --> 01:50:37,467
Speaker 2: the well, the five New Zealand you know super rugby

2081
01:50:37,507 --> 01:50:39,747
Speaker 2: franchise is the ones with the New Zealand contracted players

2082
01:50:39,787 --> 01:50:41,467
Speaker 2: in them. If we' leaven Wine and Pacific or off

2083
01:50:41,507 --> 01:50:43,187
Speaker 2: to one side at the moment, there's no doubt that

2084
01:50:43,307 --> 01:50:46,347
Speaker 2: the Highlanders have fewer all blacks than anybody else. It's

2085
01:50:46,387 --> 01:50:51,427
Speaker 2: always been difficult to get you know, high quality players

2086
01:50:52,067 --> 01:50:57,267
Speaker 2: to move to Duneda. Ethan de Groot becomes very important

2087
01:50:57,307 --> 01:51:00,107
Speaker 2: in their front row. For La Fuckatava as well, even

2088
01:51:00,107 --> 01:51:01,987
Speaker 2: though he's only played a couple of all blacks tests

2089
01:51:02,027 --> 01:51:03,987
Speaker 2: and who knows, might not ever play for them again.

2090
01:51:04,027 --> 01:51:07,187
Speaker 2: We don't know is the other one. Others have been

2091
01:51:07,267 --> 01:51:10,067
Speaker 2: in and around Fabian Holland. Another big season coming up

2092
01:51:10,107 --> 01:51:13,547
Speaker 2: for him. I'm not sure about his eligibility whether he

2093
01:51:13,707 --> 01:51:15,627
Speaker 2: becomes eligible for the All Blacks this year or not.

2094
01:51:16,587 --> 01:51:19,627
Speaker 2: With Sam Dowry injured and having been drafted into the

2095
01:51:19,667 --> 01:51:22,307
Speaker 2: All Blacks last year. If Fabian Holland is eligible and

2096
01:51:22,387 --> 01:51:24,507
Speaker 2: he was in the wider training group at the back

2097
01:51:24,587 --> 01:51:27,667
Speaker 2: end of last year off the back of the All

2098
01:51:27,707 --> 01:51:30,947
Speaker 2: Blacks fifteen selection, I need to check that. But as

2099
01:51:31,027 --> 01:51:32,707
Speaker 2: soon as he's available, he's certainly going to be a

2100
01:51:32,747 --> 01:51:36,267
Speaker 2: guy who is in the conversation for All Black selection.

2101
01:51:36,427 --> 01:51:38,947
Speaker 2: But yeah, I don't know. I feel like the Highlanders

2102
01:51:38,947 --> 01:51:43,267
Speaker 2: of everybody's favorite other team. If your team isn't playing

2103
01:51:43,267 --> 01:51:45,707
Speaker 2: the Highlanders, then you want them to win. That's how

2104
01:51:45,747 --> 01:51:49,987
Speaker 2: I feel. Anyway, We'll see how they go. Twenty two

2105
01:51:50,147 --> 01:51:52,547
Speaker 2: away from three, let's take a break. When we come

2106
01:51:52,627 --> 01:51:54,387
Speaker 2: back to wrap the show, We're going to do it

2107
01:51:54,467 --> 01:51:59,907
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2108
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2109
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2116
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2118
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2119
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2120
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Speaker 11: had it in an overtime.

2121
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Speaker 2: He is the best.

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Speaker 3: He is the standard. You're Michael Jordan's rins.

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Speaker 2: It again here. So Kansas City up against the Philadelphia Eagles,

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Speaker 2: who they beat in the twenty twenty three Super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: Now regular listeners to the show will have enjoyed, as

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Speaker 2: I have, the regular emailed thoughts of Leon in Melbourne,

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01:53:08,067 --> 01:53:12,187
Speaker 2: among other things, a massive NFL fan, and not just that,

2128
01:53:12,427 --> 01:53:16,267
Speaker 2: completing a dissertation as part of his university studies on

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01:53:16,387 --> 01:53:19,987
Speaker 2: the impact of the transfer portal and name, image and

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01:53:20,187 --> 01:53:23,667
Speaker 2: likeness as an abridgement between college and professional sports in

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01:53:23,707 --> 01:53:27,907
Speaker 2: North America, specifically the NFL and the NBA. So we thought,

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Speaker 2: let's get Leon on to preview Super Bowl. Leon from

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Speaker 2: Melbourne is with us, Leon Busby to give him his

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Speaker 2: full title. Thanks for joining us, Leon, How are you mate?

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Speaker 10: I'm great? Thanks Jason, Thanks and foremotes. Thanks for allowing

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01:53:41,107 --> 01:53:43,467
Speaker 10: me to come on your show. You know, I know

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01:53:43,587 --> 01:53:46,707
Speaker 10: you're an award winner. Then you're the top of the

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01:53:46,867 --> 01:53:49,947
Speaker 10: totem pole, say to speak, but living here in Melbourne,

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01:53:49,987 --> 01:53:52,827
Speaker 10: I have listened to a show and I love your work.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's great to have you as part of the

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Speaker 2: show today because we, as I say, assume that you

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Speaker 2: would be right across this. So let's go team from team,

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Speaker 2: starting with the Kansas City Chiefs. They've made Super Bowl

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Speaker 2: five times in the l six, I've won the last two.

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01:54:08,067 --> 01:54:11,387
Speaker 2: It's a faersly competitive sport. What has made the chief

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01:54:11,507 --> 01:54:14,747
Speaker 2: so good for so long? And do you back them

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01:54:14,867 --> 01:54:16,307
Speaker 2: to go three on the trot?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, there's a number of reasons why the two time

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01:54:20,907 --> 01:54:23,707
Speaker 10: defending champions are back to try and win an unpressed

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01:54:23,707 --> 01:54:26,787
Speaker 10: and even third straight Super Bowl. Why don't we start

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01:54:26,867 --> 01:54:29,747
Speaker 10: with the guy everyone plays under center for Kansas City.

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01:54:29,827 --> 01:54:33,547
Speaker 10: Its Patrick Mahomes. So he's played in seven straight conference

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01:54:33,627 --> 01:54:36,747
Speaker 10: championship game since he became the starting quarterback for Casey,

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01:54:36,787 --> 01:54:40,387
Speaker 10: which is unheard of. This will be a fifth Super Bowl,

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01:54:40,467 --> 01:54:42,627
Speaker 10: having won three and lost one. The one he did lose,

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01:54:43,747 --> 01:54:46,227
Speaker 10: he had most of them studying offensive lineout injured. So

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Speaker 10: and this is all before he's so Mahomes is a depth.

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01:54:50,107 --> 01:54:51,947
Speaker 10: They're finding a way to lead his team to a win,

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Speaker 10: particularly in the moments, in a matter of the most

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Speaker 10: part of his identity that you can't replicate his own.

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Speaker 10: There's such a force of football that a lot of

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01:55:01,387 --> 01:55:03,707
Speaker 10: people often just call him number fifteen now, so even

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01:55:03,867 --> 01:55:05,507
Speaker 10: a lot of people are calling them the goat and.

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Speaker 2: Waiting Homes Travis Kelcey connection, let's talk about that. Why

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Speaker 2: is that such an effective combination? And is it one

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Speaker 2: of the greatest we've ever seen?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, so the chiefs of a well balanced offense with

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Speaker 10: their wide receivers and running backs. But yeah, it's tidy

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Speaker 10: in Travis Kelcey. He's crucial to Kansas City's success. So

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Speaker 10: he forms a lethal passing past catching tandem with his quarterback,

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Speaker 10: among the very best in the NFL player for history.

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01:55:33,067 --> 01:55:37,347
Speaker 10: So I think it's something like combined for seventeen and

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01:55:37,427 --> 01:55:41,987
Speaker 10: forty five yards, nineteen touchdowns, and twenty postseason games together

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Speaker 10: positioning three Super Bowl wins. They're given the numbers and

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Speaker 10: the eight they are. I mean, this is going to

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Speaker 10: carry on for a little while longer. I mean we

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Speaker 10: think about guys like Domnt Cannon during rights and how

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Speaker 10: they had that connection from Mahomes and Kelsey have really

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Speaker 10: taken it to another level. So you know, there's they're

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Speaker 10: really hard to stop, and they've just got their unbelievable

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Speaker 10: connection between both of them year.

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Speaker 6: All right.

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Speaker 2: So apart from those two and the incredible consistency that

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Speaker 2: you've talked about, what else is it about the Kansas

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Speaker 2: City Chief specifically this season that has been so impressive?

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Speaker 10: Well for your listeners who have been following their progression

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Speaker 10: the season, they've achieved what we call the won twelve

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Speaker 10: games by like one score, which is sort of unheard of.

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Speaker 10: So they just find a way to win. They know

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Speaker 10: how to sort of bring up the players in the

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Speaker 10: big moments. And one of the main people in their

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Speaker 10: coaching staff is a guy known as Spags or dag Nola.

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Speaker 10: He's their defensive coordinator. So he's the only defensive coordinator

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Speaker 10: I think in NFL history is won for Super Bowl.

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Speaker 10: So he has a way of sort of lining up

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Speaker 10: their defense against teams, and especially more so against a

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Speaker 10: team like like Philadelphia have a really potent offense. So yeah,

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Speaker 10: their defense has really stepped up to see and sort

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Speaker 10: of kept them going. A lot of people have criticized

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Speaker 10: Kansas City because the offense hasn't been great, but you

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Speaker 10: know what, they still find a way to win and

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Speaker 10: that's what makes the champion team.

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Speaker 2: Indeed, all right, well, there are two teams in Super Bowl,

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Speaker 2: so we should perhaps talk about the Philadelphia Eagles as well.

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Speaker 2: Are they capable of stopping this juggernaut that is the

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Speaker 2: Kansas City Chiefs.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, Well, the NFC champions love had a really great

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01:57:25,307 --> 01:57:27,947
Speaker 10: year and that's been based on the purchase and your

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Speaker 10: season of running back Saquon Barkley. So Barkley has really

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Speaker 10: been the difference for the team this year. Philadelphia have

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Speaker 10: some great wide receivers and a really good tight end

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Speaker 10: as well, but really Barkley has been the difference the team.

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Speaker 10: I think he passed the magical what they call two

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Speaker 10: thousand mark rushing for the He actually could have broken

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Speaker 10: the regular season record, but they decided to wrest them

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01:57:56,707 --> 01:57:58,267
Speaker 10: in the last game, so that was a bit of

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01:57:58,307 --> 01:58:01,267
Speaker 10: a shame. But he only needs thirty more yards to

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Speaker 10: get the all season rushing record in the Super Bowl,

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Speaker 10: so I'm pretty sure he'll do that. But yes, he's

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Speaker 10: definitely been a difference for the Seagles. Sorry for the

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01:58:09,587 --> 01:58:10,307
Speaker 10: Eagles this year.

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Speaker 2: What about at quarterback Jalen Hurts. We're now about Patrick Mahomes.

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Speaker 2: How do you assess Jalen Hurt's ability to step up

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Speaker 2: for this big occasion?

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Speaker 10: Yes, they hurt. If we think about the Super Bowl

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01:58:25,267 --> 01:58:27,227
Speaker 10: from two years ago, in Super Bowl fifty seven, he

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01:58:27,387 --> 01:58:30,227
Speaker 10: was actually he actually played Mahomes in that game, but

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Speaker 10: obviously because they lost the game, he didn't get Super

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01:58:33,347 --> 01:58:35,107
Speaker 10: Bowl MVP, but he could have if they had won.

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Speaker 10: So he's another good player who can do a lot

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01:58:37,907 --> 01:58:40,947
Speaker 10: of damage from the pocket with his arm. But he's

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01:58:40,987 --> 01:58:45,667
Speaker 10: also another threat on the ground. So besides Barkley, if

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Speaker 10: we look at the championship game when they beat Washington,

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Speaker 10: he ran for three touchdown scores as well as Barkley.

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Speaker 10: So he's a threat from the pocket and also with

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Speaker 10: his legs as well. So that gives Philadelfia a lot

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Speaker 10: more options in terms of their offense as well.

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Speaker 2: Both great offenses though Leon so who has the better defense?

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Speaker 10: You know what, Pinier, I've got to be honest that

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Speaker 10: this could be like on the toss of a coin,

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Speaker 10: because they're both so good. We look at Kansas City,

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01:59:15,307 --> 01:59:18,587
Speaker 10: they have a ficial Hall of Fame and Chris Jones,

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01:59:18,627 --> 01:59:22,787
Speaker 10: who he's considered the business position as a defensive tackle,

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01:59:22,907 --> 01:59:25,427
Speaker 10: so he gets out of the quarterback and quite often

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01:59:25,467 --> 01:59:27,067
Speaker 10: he's one of those guys that has to be double

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01:59:27,107 --> 01:59:31,587
Speaker 10: teams as well. Philadelphia have some guys there in the

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01:59:31,627 --> 01:59:33,627
Speaker 10: offensive line you can cause a lot of havoc as well.

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Speaker 10: So it's really hard. It's going to be hard to

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Speaker 10: pick the winner because it's so close and even he match,

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Speaker 10: and if we look at the current odds, both teams

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Speaker 10: are pretty even. I think Kansas City are like a

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01:59:43,187 --> 01:59:45,867
Speaker 10: point and a half favorite, which isn't a lot when

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01:59:45,907 --> 01:59:48,147
Speaker 10: you think about it. But yeah, it's going to be

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01:59:48,227 --> 01:59:49,987
Speaker 10: really close. It's going to be a hard one to pick.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, indeed, so and that I won't ask you to

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Speaker 2: make a pick, but I will ask you what will

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Speaker 2: decide it? What is it likely to be a one

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01:59:56,947 --> 01:59:58,867
Speaker 2: score game? Will it be decided on a moment of

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01:59:58,907 --> 02:00:03,027
Speaker 2: inspiration by by one of the two quarterbacks? How do

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Speaker 2: you see this one being decided tomorrow?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I think if you look at Kansas City, their

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Speaker 10: head coach, Andy Reid, he's nickname big Red, that's his nickname.

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Speaker 10: But he's been in the situation many times before. Interestingly,

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Speaker 10: a lot of your cause, so a lot of your

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02:00:19,027 --> 02:00:22,667
Speaker 10: listeners may not know that Andy Reid actually has the

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Speaker 10: winning this record for both teams because he was at

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Speaker 10: Philadelphia for about twelve years and took them to a

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Speaker 10: super Bowl. I think they won five AFC Championship Kansas Bowl,

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Speaker 10: so and obviously with his success in Kansas City, he's

2270
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Speaker 10: got that experience. So I think in terms of that,

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Speaker 10: you can't really replact experience. But in saying that, I

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Speaker 10: think the biggest factor in this game will be whether

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Speaker 10: Kansas City can shut down Philadelphia's running game because Barkley's lethal.

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Speaker 10: So often in games you'll see he might get three yards,

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02:00:56,987 --> 02:00:59,907
Speaker 10: five yard, ten yards, seven yards, and then he'll just

2276
02:00:59,987 --> 02:01:02,667
Speaker 10: go off on a sixty yard run. So they need

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Speaker 10: to clar I think that's going to be the determining

2278
02:01:04,947 --> 02:01:06,747
Speaker 10: factor who's going to win this game if they need

2279
02:01:06,827 --> 02:01:10,707
Speaker 10: to shut down Barkley. If they can, that shuts down

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Speaker 10: Philadelphia's options in terms of attack. So I think really

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Speaker 10: that's the biggest fact of a lot of experts are

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Speaker 10: talking about that if Kansas City can somehow close down

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Speaker 10: Barkley's running game, then Kansas City could definitely threepeat.

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Speaker 2: Leon, You've given us great analysis, Mate, Thanks so much

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Speaker 2: for joining us. Really really pleased that you could do so.

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Speaker 2: Enjoy the game tomorrow. I know you're a Chiefs fan,

2287
02:01:31,347 --> 02:01:33,027
Speaker 2: so you'll be able to now that you've given us

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Speaker 2: the very objective analysis you get your Kansas City Chiefs

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Speaker 2: care on and hopefully cheer your voice home. Thanks so

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Speaker 2: much for joining us today.

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Speaker 10: Mate, No, thanks a lot, Poini, thank you for having

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Speaker 10: me on.

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Speaker 2: No, thanks for joining us.

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Speaker 9: Lee on.

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Speaker 2: Leon Busby one of our regular contributors, and on the

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Speaker 2: basis of what we've just heard there, I think a

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Speaker 2: regular contributor moving forward as well.

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Speaker 6: There you go.

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Speaker 2: Super Bowl fifty nine tomorrow, twelve thirty Kansas City Chiefs

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Speaker 2: against the Philadelphia Eagles. Just a point of clarification, I

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Speaker 2: said an unprecedented three peat. That is true as far

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Speaker 2: as Super Bowls are concerned. I've had a pointed out

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Speaker 2: to me that the Green Bay Pass won three in

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Speaker 2: a row, but that was before Super Bowl was a thing.

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Speaker 2: They won three straight championships when it was determined by

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Speaker 2: the regular season record, that twice actually nineteen twenty nine

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Speaker 2: through nineteen thirty one, and also nineteen sixty five through

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Speaker 2: nineteen sixty seven, but no team has ever won three

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Speaker 2: straight Super Bowls since that came into being in nineteen

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Speaker 2: sixty seven. Eight to three News Talks.

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Speaker 1: V when it's down to the line, you made a

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Speaker 1: call on eight hundred and eighty ten eighty Weekend Sports

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Speaker 1: with Jason Pine Us Talks.

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Speaker 2: VV five to three and that is us on Weekend

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Speaker 2: Sport for today and four the Weekend. Tim Beveridge takes

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Speaker 2: over after three o'clock with the Sunday edition of the

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Speaker 2: Weekend Collective. Thank you so much for tuning in this afternoon.

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Speaker 2: I hope you enjoyed hearing from all six New Zealand

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Speaker 2: based Super Rugby coaches with our hopes, dreams, aspirations, et cetera.

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Speaker 2: For the season ahead, which starts on Friday. We'll have

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Speaker 2: producing the show as always, Thanks mate, Enjoy the rest

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Speaker 2: of your afternoon, and you enjoy the rest of yours

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Speaker 2: as well, taking us out as far as the song

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Speaker 2: is concerned today, just a slightly mellow one to help

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Speaker 2: you through the middle part of you somenday and maybe

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Speaker 2: prepare you for the fact that your public holidays and

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Speaker 2: your long weekends are going to be done, all done

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Speaker 2: from now on. And I guess the next thing to

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Speaker 2: look forward to is Easter. In that regard. This is

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Speaker 2: Adele with her take on the song originally written by

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Speaker 2: Bob Dylan. This is off her debut studio album nineteen.

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Speaker 2: Make you Feel My Love, Enjoy, enjoy the last bit

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Speaker 2: of it and I'll see you tomorrow night on Sports

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Speaker 2: Talk seven through eight by f Now.

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Speaker 10: Go to Andy for you.

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Speaker 5: To make you fell Loo.

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Speaker 2: To make a film Illo.

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Speaker 1: Thank you.

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Speaker 5: For more.

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Speaker 2: From Weekends Sport with Jason Fine.

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Speaker 1: Listen live to News Talks it B Weekends from midday,

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