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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack team podcast

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Speaker 1: from News Talks at be.

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Speaker 2: Mike Yrdley is our travel correspondent.

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Speaker 3: More Dinner, Good morning Jack. Now you've got to shout

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Speaker 3: out in christ Church. Last night I went to a

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Speaker 3: night at the Conclave which featured Cardinal John Joe sort

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Speaker 3: of like talking about all the workings a few months

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Speaker 3: ago in Rome. And yes, and you're a fantastic interview

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Speaker 3: with the cardinal. What was mentioned? So bravo bravo. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well I'll always you know, take being mentioned in

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Speaker 2: that kind of and that kind of context to Mike,

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Speaker 2: as you know, we can usually get mentioned for far

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Speaker 2: worse things, So that's that's great. How was the night?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, fabulous, just so down to worth. I think that's

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Speaker 3: what really blew people away. You know, you'd think, oh, yeah,

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Speaker 3: this might be some sort of frosty, stolid sort of Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: it was just so casual and real. It was just fantastic.

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Speaker 2: Oh wonderful. What a good thing to have done. And

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Speaker 2: great that they're kind of getting out on the road,

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Speaker 2: you know and explaining the stuff, giving people, you know,

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Speaker 2: very making things as approachable as possible. How interesting. Hey, anyway,

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Speaker 2: we're turning our attention to Liverpool in the UK. I've

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Speaker 2: never been always wanted to go, so very much interested

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Speaker 2: in your recommendations this morning, and you've been doing a

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Speaker 2: bit of a kind of swing around the UK for

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Speaker 2: us in the last few weeks. Why did Liverpool, of

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Speaker 2: all places win you over?

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Speaker 3: I reckon after London, Jack, this is England's best big city,

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Speaker 3: and the reason being, first of all, you've got this

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Speaker 3: really striking mishmash of older new architecture and it definitely

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Speaker 3: feels like a city that's being regenerated. I love how

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Speaker 3: Liverpool bears its soul, you know, it celebrates its pride,

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Speaker 3: it expresses its pains in terms of history and terrible events.

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Speaker 3: It just is a really charismatic sort of place, gritty, vital, grounded.

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Speaker 3: And the thing that I noticed is act you have

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Speaker 3: to spend a couple of days in Liverpool to get

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Speaker 3: a real flavor of real urban England and that Scouse spirit,

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Speaker 3: that really earthy assert of charm of the Liverpool Lands.

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Speaker 3: Just an amazing place.

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Speaker 2: Nice. So what are the headline sits on the Beatles parade?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well there's no avoiding Beetlemania. Are several museums. Then

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Speaker 3: you've got the magical mystery tour to a swag of

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Speaker 3: pilgrimage sites like the boyhood homes of John and Paul.

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Speaker 3: I saw the alam eleanor Rigby Grave site in Saint

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Speaker 3: Peter's churchyard and that's actually where McCartney and Lenin first

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Speaker 3: met at a church fate. I saw Penny Lane where

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Speaker 3: the street signs have to be regularly replaced. The Strawberry

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Speaker 3: Field site that is so evocative now, these gardens, they

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Speaker 3: were like a place of peace and refuge for a

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Speaker 3: young John Lennon, and of course that gave rise to

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Speaker 3: another Beetles anthem. So yeah, so much to explore.

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Speaker 2: Ah, yeah, that's it. I'm embarrassed to say that, naively.

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Speaker 2: I thought The Strawberry was written after the Strawberry Fields

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Speaker 2: in Central Park in New.

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Speaker 3: York, US front Yeah, so yeah. Strawberry Field was actually

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Speaker 3: was given to the Salvation Army about a century ago

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Speaker 3: in Liverpool and it was like a place for destitute children,

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Speaker 3: vulnerable children. And then the gardens were often like a

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Speaker 3: playground for a lot of people living, a lot of

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Speaker 3: kids living in Liverpool, including John Lennon.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, very good, Oh nice So where is the

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Speaker 2: Cavin Club located?

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Speaker 3: Yes, Matthew Street and it's amazing. Jack. I felt a

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Speaker 3: bit like I did when I first went to Beal

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Speaker 3: Street in Memphis. So it's this narrow bar lined street,

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Speaker 3: Matthew Street, ground zero for Beatles fans. That's where the

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Speaker 3: original Kevin Club was located. It's gone, but they have

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Speaker 3: built a mock up of the historic night spot a

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Speaker 3: few doors down from where it was originally located. The

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Speaker 3: other cool thing right across from the club, the Wall

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Speaker 3: of Fame. Jerry Marsden created this and every brick represents

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Speaker 3: an artist or band who played at the original Kevin Club.

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Speaker 3: All the rebuilt club and my god, it's like a

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Speaker 3: who's who of music. Royalty Adele, Suzi Quatro, Oasis, Jim Morrison,

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Speaker 3: you name them, they've been there. It's just incredible.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Nice. So Royal Albert Dock has been transformed for tourists

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Speaker 2: as well. What's worth exploring.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, those mighty red brick warehouses are now mainly used

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Speaker 3: as museum spaces and they've got some incredible museums. The

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Speaker 3: Maritime Museum. It dives deep into eight hundred years of

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Speaker 3: proud seafaring history. And then nearby the International Slavery Museum,

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Speaker 3: which does not flinch from fronting up to Liverpool's role

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Speaker 3: in the African slave trade. I took this awesome stroll

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Speaker 3: along the harbor Front, gazing across the Mersey all the

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Speaker 3: way to peer a Head, which is home to that

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Speaker 3: creamy cluster of Edwardian building known as the Three Graces

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Speaker 3: headquarters for qune Ard Lines. So yeah, there was just

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Speaker 2: Did you come across any New Zealand connections.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll go back to the nineteenth and twentieth century

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Speaker 3: and Liverpool of course was the major gateway for British

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Speaker 3: and Irish immigrants, so heading off to begin new lives

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Speaker 3: in the New World, including New Zealand. And just to

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Speaker 3: sullen old stone building emblazoned with New Zealand House on

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Speaker 3: its exterior. So back in the day its core business

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Speaker 3: was migration and meat. Today Jack it is still a

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Speaker 3: meat market of swords. Hooters has taken up residents on

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Speaker 2: I just said this moment of panic as I wondered

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Speaker 2: where you were going to go with that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Oh that's so funny, how incredible? Yeah, and so what

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Speaker 2: is it about the churches in Liverpool that make them

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Speaker 3: With the Yeah, I've got two showstoppers. First of all,

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Speaker 3: the Anglican Cathedral is the UK's biggest religious building. It's

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Speaker 3: a behemoth with the heaviest and highest bells in the world.

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Speaker 3: And the chap who designed it, SAJAIRA Scott, also created

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Speaker 3: Britain's iconic red telephone box and his grandfather Kiwi connection

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Speaker 3: Here designed christ Church Cathedral. But even more compelling Jack

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Speaker 3: Saint Luke's bombed out Church. That's what it's called, and

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Speaker 3: that's exactly what you see. It was decapitated during the

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Speaker 3: Blitz and it's been left hollowed out and roofless ever since.

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Speaker 3: So it's now this open air performance space which is

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Speaker 3: a stunning spot to catch some local culture. They have

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Speaker 3: all sorts of things on there all the time.

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Speaker 2: Oh nice. Well, any memorable hospitality highlights for you.

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Speaker 3: Well, aside from footing at Anfield, an unrivaled cultural experience

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Speaker 3: with the locals is to take a pub crawl in

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Speaker 3: the stately streets of the Georgia and Quarter and it's amazing.

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Speaker 3: Liverpool has a massive Irish population, so the vibe is

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Speaker 3: so similar to being in Dublin's Temple Bar district. The

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Speaker 3: pub to end all pubs, I'd have to say, it's

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Speaker 3: a place called the Philharmon Dining Rooms. I couldn't believe

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Speaker 3: this place. It would be the most palatial pub I

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Speaker 3: made of pink marble.

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, that's ridiculous. I have good though, the

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Speaker 2: problem is that you're sort of inviting people to start

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Speaker 2: photographing them and no one needs that.

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Speaker 3: That's true.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So what would it be like? Half an hour

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Speaker 3: Would right?

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Speaker 2: Half an hour? Twenty minutes. Yeah, it's pretty close.

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Speaker 3: Pretty much grab a fury across the Moosey jet, yeah

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Speaker 3: of course. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Well, given I'm a Liverpool fan, I want to make

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Speaker 2: sure I'm on the right side of it. Hey, thank you,

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Speaker 2: that sounds sounds fantastic. I'm digging the envious. Like I said,

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Speaker 2: some top tips there, Mike. We'll make sure that all

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Speaker 2: Mike's advice for tripping through Liverpool is up on the

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Speaker 2: news Talk z'b website.

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