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Speaker 1: Things turn pretty heated when politicians turn up at White Tangi. Today,

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Speaker 1: David Seymour's microphone was taken away halfway through his speech.

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Speaker 1: Protesters turns their back on him. At one point he's

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Speaker 1: with me now, minister, hello, hey Ryan. So how did

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Speaker 1: today go?

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Speaker 2: It depends how you measure it. I thought some people

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Speaker 2: behaved in ways that really let themselves down and unfortunately

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Speaker 2: gave a bad impression of the Maori world. Others I

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Speaker 2: thought behave very well. I count amongst them mister Shortland,

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Speaker 2: who actually brought the microphone back to me twice. And overall,

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Speaker 2: I think what's important to me at least is that

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Speaker 2: you know you can take away my microphone, you can

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Speaker 2: turn your back, you can do award answer in my face,

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Speaker 2: or whatever you like. At the end of the day,

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Speaker 2: the one thing I didn't hear was a compelling argument

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Speaker 2: for why our treaty should not be interpreted as an

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Speaker 2: agreement that gives us all equal rights under one parliament

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Speaker 2: that is obliged to uphold all of our rights equally.

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Speaker 2: And in that sense it was a failure, but it

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Speaker 2: gives me more encouragement to keep promoting the treaty principles.

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Speaker 1: Bill Shane Jones seemed to suggest that it would take

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Speaker 1: some money off them because of the way they behaved.

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Speaker 1: Is that a bit far?

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Speaker 2: Look, the one thing I will say about that is

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Speaker 2: that the White Dungey Trust bought a lot of people

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Speaker 2: don't realize this, but it's like Cornwall Park in Auckland.

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Speaker 2: It's not a public things. It's a privately owned piece

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Speaker 2: of land. It's got a great museum. They keep the

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Speaker 2: grounds and grant the treaty house the Mariah in great condition,

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Speaker 2: and they make a huge effort to try and make

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Speaker 2: this day work. It's not them that are ruining it,

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Speaker 2: if you know, ten million dollars to keep the place

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Speaker 2: up to scratch for the whole country. I think we

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Speaker 2: should be a bit wary of blaming them. But the

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Speaker 2: other one's trying to make it better.

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Speaker 1: David seymore, Happy White Dang You Day.

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Speaker 2: Happy White Dungey Day You do For more from Hither

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