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Speaker 1: Barry Soper, senior political correspondence with US. Now, hey, Barry,

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Speaker 1: good afternoon. What do you make of the third quarter list?

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Speaker 2: It's interesting, isn't it. All governments come out and you

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Speaker 2: remember labor one year, they called it the Year of

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Speaker 2: Deliverables and delivered Jasinda Durn delivered virtually nothing in that year.

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Speaker 2: It was probably one of the worst years. Yet there's

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Speaker 2: always a danger when you come out with lists and

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Speaker 2: saying this is what we're going to achieve. But you've

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Speaker 2: got to say and you know, I can't remember a

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Speaker 2: time when a government has actually tackled most of the

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Speaker 2: things it said what It's got a whole list there

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Speaker 2: with a stamp done at its side of thirty six,

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Speaker 2: I think there was thirty seven points that they wanted

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Speaker 2: to achieve in the second quarter. They got thirty six,

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Speaker 2: but a lot of them are sort of progress of legislation.

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Speaker 2: And similarly, when you look at the third quarter, it's

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Speaker 2: like things like releasing the draft of a second Mission's

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Speaker 2: Reduction Plan. Well, you know, that's good, Tony a draft,

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Speaker 2: so it's not actually introducing it. So there's a lot

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Speaker 2: of sort of soft stuff.

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Speaker 1: Well marking the steps that they're taking. Towards the thing right.

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Speaker 2: Here they are, and you know, you've got to say

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Speaker 2: that's a pretty good thing. The three components of the

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Speaker 2: third quarter will be rebuilding the economy and easing the

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Speaker 2: cost of living. And there's a lot of steps that

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Speaker 2: they talk in the budget, of course, that they would

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Speaker 2: say achieved that restore law and order, the old gang patches,

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Speaker 2: things that law will go through, delivering better public services,

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Speaker 2: what's left of the public service, it'll you know, there's

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Speaker 2: a number of aspects of that that they've outlined, and

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Speaker 2: I've got to say Lason was in a positive spin

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Speaker 2: mode saying the targets set will see better times ahead.

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Speaker 2: Here is a few minutes ago.

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Speaker 3: We're doing a lot, as you can see every quarter.

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Speaker 3: We're being very disciplined about what we are doing and

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Speaker 3: what we're not doing. And that's the way that we

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Speaker 3: have to be in order to turn the country around.

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Speaker 3: That's what's needed in a turnaround job. But I think

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Speaker 3: a lot of what we want to do in the

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Speaker 3: space in the coming quarters get the infrastructure that we

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Speaker 3: know that we need to get going to improve the

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Speaker 3: productivity of New Zealand. I know it's tough now, but

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Speaker 3: we actually have a fantastic future ahead of us in

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Speaker 3: this country.

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Speaker 2: See, I guess the good thing is they're setting targets

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Speaker 2: and they're measuring themselves against the targets. So if they fail,

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Speaker 2: I'll have to admit it by notating every target that's

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Speaker 2: forty in the third quarter, then you know you can

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Speaker 2: measure them against and how far they've gone to achieve

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Speaker 2: what they say that some of the.

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Speaker 1: Stuff is the end of the matter as well, the

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Speaker 1: end of the process. About nine of the things is

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Speaker 1: actually passing the legislation at its end point in gazetting

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Speaker 1: things and so on. So it's not all bad. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: So not a surprise really that the majority of us,

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Speaker 1: quite the plurality of us, want to see a new plane.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a Talbot Mills pole, which is the Labor

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Speaker 2: Party pollsters. The main supports, not surprisingly, come from the

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Speaker 2: coalition government parties. If you look at the National supporters,

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Speaker 2: sixty one percent of them say that we should have

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Speaker 2: planes that can land when the Prime Minister travels overseas,

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Speaker 2: sixty percent very close again New Zealand first, and fifty

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Speaker 2: nine percent for ACT. So there's a strong body of

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Speaker 2: support for new planes from the coalition parties look at

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Speaker 2: the other side. Of course, Labour's interesting forty nine percent

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Speaker 2: say that these planes should be replaced. Then you get

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Speaker 2: down to the Maori party thirty five percent and the Greens,

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Speaker 2: of course they would tend to have us out in

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Speaker 2: rowing boats to get where.

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Speaker 1: The Green I'll never ever, we don't need to fly

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Speaker 1: because of the climate and there's no such thing as war.

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Speaker 2: True that, and so thirty three percent of the Green

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Speaker 2: say yes they should. But Luxon has been very reluctant,

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Speaker 2: saying that at a time of the cost of living crisis,

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Speaker 2: it's very hard to be forking out on planes. Yep.

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Speaker 2: But he's got a lot of trips coming up this year,

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Speaker 2: you know, before the year's out. He's talking about going

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Speaker 2: to India in the coming month, as well as the

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Speaker 2: NATO summit and Washington, DC, APEC and which is in

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Speaker 2: Peru this year, so there's a lot of travel. If

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Speaker 2: he doesn't take the air Force plans, you may not

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Speaker 2: get the same media coverage that Prome ministers like to have.

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Speaker 1: You can probably live without it, how about you, I

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Speaker 1: could yes, yeah, okay, good settled, don't take the media. Hey,

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Speaker 1: what did you think of the Trump Biden debate.

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Speaker 2: Then, Oh, I've got to say the highlight or the

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Speaker 2: low light of my weekend. Really, I mean, I was

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Speaker 2: watched it. Like I said on Friday, political tragic. You've

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Speaker 2: got to sit in front of television and watch these

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Speaker 2: two men. One a geriatric and I'm not nothing against

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Speaker 2: elderly people. Now he's a man that's got a real problem,

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Speaker 2: and the other one is a blatant liar telling so

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Speaker 2: many lies. Basically, Trump gave seven of the ten longest

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Speaker 2: answers during the cour the debate, not surprising either, because

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Speaker 2: he dominated the microphone more. And it's interesting. You've got

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Speaker 2: moderators there, but they do nothing. They simply sit there

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Speaker 2: because they've got the mute buttons, and they don't answer

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Speaker 2: follow up questions, which is frustrating. The next day, though,

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Speaker 2: I've got to say, in North Carolina, Biden sounded like

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Speaker 2: a totally different person.

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Speaker 1: Here he is, I like the other guy.

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Speaker 2: We're going to stand up the dictators like prudent because

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Speaker 2: mer composed and no one, no one, no one ever.

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Speaker 2: Did you see Trump last night? I guess he said.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's sincerely a new record for the most

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Speaker 2: lies tall of a single debate. See the thing is

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Speaker 2: that we were told he had a cold the night before.

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Speaker 2: He sounded pretty clear.

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Speaker 1: Was that address before four o'clock? Because four o'clock, that's right.

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Speaker 1: They do all of it between ten am and four pm,

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Speaker 1: and then he can still function and sound. Barry. Thank

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Speaker 1: you very much, Barry so for seeing your political correspondent.

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