1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: And in the Brady UK correspondent with us Hello, Inda. 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:05,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're great to speak to you again. 3 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:07,840 Speaker 1: Any word from your government on Tony Blair's involvement. 4 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:10,600 Speaker 2: No, but I think there will be some today. So 5 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 2: clearly it's Labor Party conference week here Stummer is going 6 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:15,680 Speaker 2: to speak and I would imagine as soon as journal 7 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 2: let's get near the Prime Minister that will be one 8 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 2: of the first questions. But look, the UK government has 9 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:23,080 Speaker 2: been equivocal on this. The hostages have to be returned, 10 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:25,279 Speaker 2: there needs to be a ceasefire, and there needs to 11 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 2: be an end to the war in Gaza. 12 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 1: Do you guys have much given what Blair has managed 13 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 1: to do in terms of the Good Friday Agreement and 14 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 1: so on, Do you hold hope that he's able to 15 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 1: do something here not in. 16 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:39,920 Speaker 2: The Middle East? Personally, I think his name is Mud 17 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:44,160 Speaker 2: in the Muslim world because of Iraq, so it's hugely controversial. Yes, 18 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 2: he did great things in Ireland. I've interviewed him many 19 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 2: times over the years and that remains I would say 20 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:53,160 Speaker 2: one of his proudest achievements getting peace in Ireland, which 21 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 2: is something that growing up there in the eighties I 22 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 2: never would have thought was possible and the country we 23 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 2: have now piece we have. Yes, he played a huge, 24 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 2: huge part in that. I think this is so different. 25 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 2: He carries a lot of baggage because of the Iraq War. 26 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 2: He is not popular in the Muslim world. But let's 27 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 2: just see, let's give him a chance. 28 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:15,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, what about this chep who's the chief suspect 29 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 1: of the metal and macann disappearance? Was he got to 30 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 1: say for himself? 31 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 2: So incredibly He's given an interview to Sky News. Obviously, 32 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 2: I was there for nearly two decades, and I know 33 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:29,119 Speaker 2: the teams have been working to try and find this guy, 34 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 2: to get him to sit down and do an interview. 35 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:33,760 Speaker 2: He speaks good English, but he spoke mostly in German. 36 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 2: Christian Bruckner is his name. So he's just got out 37 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 2: of prison. He's on an ankle tag. He has served 38 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:43,960 Speaker 2: a significant sentence for a sex attack on a pensioner, 39 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 2: a female pensioner in Portugal a long time ago. He 40 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 2: is now, on the face of it, a free man, 41 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 2: but he doesn't believe he is. So he took himself 42 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 2: off to the prosecutor's office in the nearest town in 43 00:01:57,080 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 2: Germany yesterday to demand the face the face meeting, and 44 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 2: he says he wants his life back, he wants the 45 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 2: prosecutor to stop investigating him for the disappearance of Madeline 46 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 2: the Can, and he also asked for some money so 47 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 2: that he could get his life back on track. Now 48 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 2: it's very difficult to feel sympathy for this man. He 49 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 2: is a convicted sex attacker. He has always denied anything 50 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 2: to do with the disappearance of little Madeline. However, when 51 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 2: he was asked the question did you abduct and murder 52 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:27,959 Speaker 2: Madeline the Can, which is what the German police clearly 53 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 2: believe he did, he refused to answer. And he said, 54 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:33,519 Speaker 2: my lawyers have told me that I can't answer the 55 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 2: answer this. I mean, it's a pretty straightforward yes or 56 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 2: no answer, isn't it yes? And he refused to answer. 57 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 2: So there are significant question marks against this guy, but 58 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 2: for now he is free. He denies any wrongdoing whatsoever. 59 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 2: But he has a hell of a situation on his 60 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:56,520 Speaker 2: hands because what I understand, the German authorities put him 61 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:59,640 Speaker 2: into a house at the weekend. He now so recognizing 62 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:02,800 Speaker 2: so well known across Germany that with now was the 63 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 2: base had to turn up rescue him from his names. 64 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:07,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that doesn't surprise me at all. Hell, listen 65 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 1: to the dog walkers that have been banned from going 66 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 1: anywhere near Kate and William's house. 67 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 2: What are they said about, Well, I've always been able 68 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:17,519 Speaker 2: to use the park in great windsor The problem now 69 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:19,679 Speaker 2: is you've got future King and the King after him 70 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 2: all living under one roof in Forest Lodge. And what 71 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 2: they've done is they've brought in some new legislation so 72 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 2: effectively put it in barriers, more CCTV cameras and as 73 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 2: a two point three mile perimeter around Forest Lodge, which 74 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 2: Kate and William view is there forever home with the 75 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 2: children are upset. They've come to the newspapers. They've complained. 76 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 2: They said they weren't consulted on this. But look, the 77 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 2: future King, as I say, and the King after him, 78 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 2: there's only going to be one winner here and you 79 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 2: can't argue about the securities he needed to protect William 80 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 2: and his family. 81 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, fair enough, and thank you so much. I appreciate it. 82 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 1: We talk to you in a couple of days in 83 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 1: the Brady UK Correspondent. 84 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 2: For more from Hither Duke, see Allen Drive. 85 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 1: Listen live to news talks it b from four pm weekdays, 86 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 1: or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio