1 00:00:07,133 --> 00:00:10,453 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack Team podcast 2 00:00:10,573 --> 00:00:14,453 Speaker 1: from News Talks at b oh. 3 00:00:14,213 --> 00:00:20,093 Speaker 2: Yeah, and that brings old skeletons when our ladies could 4 00:00:20,093 --> 00:00:22,333 Speaker 2: be nicking the most of hard time. In his spad 5 00:00:22,453 --> 00:00:23,933 Speaker 2: move put a man in. 6 00:00:23,933 --> 00:00:30,933 Speaker 3: This tonight, excicularly you do anything for me. 7 00:00:32,413 --> 00:00:33,013 Speaker 4: The morning. 8 00:00:36,413 --> 00:00:40,373 Speaker 3: That is Ed's share on the songs called Skeletons. So 9 00:00:40,493 --> 00:00:44,293 Speaker 3: he's just dropped a deluxe edition of his most recent 10 00:00:44,333 --> 00:00:49,173 Speaker 3: album Play. The first version of Play had thirteen tracks, right, 11 00:00:49,173 --> 00:00:52,693 Speaker 3: pretty reasonable, pretty standard. The deluxe edition has twenty seven, 12 00:00:52,813 --> 00:00:55,853 Speaker 3: so he's more than double the initial count. But I'm 13 00:00:55,893 --> 00:00:58,333 Speaker 3: sure the d fans won't be upset about that, right. 14 00:00:58,493 --> 00:01:00,253 Speaker 3: It is twenty two minutes to ten on News Talks. 15 00:01:01,213 --> 00:01:03,933 Speaker 3: Francisca Rudkin has our film reviewers. She's here with us 16 00:01:04,013 --> 00:01:04,533 Speaker 3: this morning. 17 00:01:04,613 --> 00:01:06,213 Speaker 4: Killed he good. 18 00:01:06,973 --> 00:01:10,053 Speaker 3: Hey, We're going to be talking to James Vanderbilt, the 19 00:01:10,053 --> 00:01:12,773 Speaker 3: director of Nuremberg after thirteen o'clock this morning. I know 20 00:01:12,853 --> 00:01:14,373 Speaker 3: that you're probably going to do that next week, but 21 00:01:14,413 --> 00:01:15,093 Speaker 3: have you seen it yet? 22 00:01:16,693 --> 00:01:19,173 Speaker 4: I have, and I'm very excited to say that. We 23 00:01:19,213 --> 00:01:20,973 Speaker 4: are also talking to Russell. 24 00:01:20,693 --> 00:01:23,213 Speaker 5: Krauss tomorrow, but we're going to talk about Nuremberg, but 25 00:01:23,293 --> 00:01:25,013 Speaker 5: also going to talk about rugby league. 26 00:01:24,813 --> 00:01:27,773 Speaker 4: And winning Oscars and singing and all sorts of stuff. 27 00:01:27,813 --> 00:01:30,053 Speaker 4: Do you think, really it's fabulous. 28 00:01:30,053 --> 00:01:32,053 Speaker 3: Do you think he's going to be like he's an 29 00:01:32,093 --> 00:01:33,773 Speaker 3: Oscar's territory? 30 00:01:34,893 --> 00:01:35,093 Speaker 1: Yeah? 31 00:01:35,253 --> 00:01:39,973 Speaker 5: Possibly, yeah, possibly, And yeah, and he's really interesting about them. 32 00:01:40,013 --> 00:01:42,093 Speaker 5: I ask him, you know, whether he gets involved with 33 00:01:42,093 --> 00:01:43,933 Speaker 5: the hype and he's really interesting about it is in 34 00:01:43,933 --> 00:01:47,053 Speaker 5: my twenties, I was all in it was really important. 35 00:01:47,133 --> 00:01:50,373 Speaker 5: And he has quite a different approach to it now 36 00:01:50,693 --> 00:01:53,893 Speaker 5: and quite a different approach to It's a fascinating interview. 37 00:01:54,493 --> 00:02:01,013 Speaker 3: Oh, very good, fantastic, Oh it's bas Okay, So we've 38 00:02:01,053 --> 00:02:03,253 Speaker 3: got we've got a couple of films to talk through 39 00:02:03,293 --> 00:02:06,253 Speaker 3: this morning. Let us begin with a film streaming on 40 00:02:06,373 --> 00:02:08,813 Speaker 3: it Flix at the moment. This is Train Dreams. 41 00:02:12,293 --> 00:02:17,013 Speaker 2: This is Jim not just on the boat. We just 42 00:02:17,013 --> 00:02:24,893 Speaker 2: cut down trees with Ben here five hundred years I've said, 43 00:02:24,933 --> 00:02:26,773 Speaker 2: some man Saul where they're recognized it or not? 44 00:02:31,493 --> 00:02:34,613 Speaker 3: Okay, that is Trained Dreams. Tell us about it franchise. 45 00:02:35,373 --> 00:02:37,773 Speaker 4: Oh look, the trailer did not promote that film. 46 00:02:37,973 --> 00:02:40,853 Speaker 3: Well I could only understand what he was saying at first, 47 00:02:40,853 --> 00:02:42,293 Speaker 3: but yeah, there is. 48 00:02:42,213 --> 00:02:47,093 Speaker 5: That watching this film was the best part of my week. 49 00:02:47,293 --> 00:02:52,373 Speaker 5: This is a devastatingly beautiful film on Netflix. It's been 50 00:02:52,413 --> 00:02:55,373 Speaker 5: going into cinemas just very briefly before hitting Netflix, and 51 00:02:55,373 --> 00:02:57,613 Speaker 5: that is so that it can be eligible for the 52 00:02:57,653 --> 00:03:00,613 Speaker 5: Award Season next year. Directed by Clint bent Me, It's 53 00:03:00,653 --> 00:03:03,733 Speaker 5: based on a novala by Dennis Johnson. It stars Joel Edgerton, 54 00:03:03,813 --> 00:03:05,133 Speaker 5: Flisty Jones, and William H. 55 00:03:05,213 --> 00:03:05,533 Speaker 4: Macy. 56 00:03:06,013 --> 00:03:09,293 Speaker 5: It look, if full on actions your kind of thing, 57 00:03:09,573 --> 00:03:10,893 Speaker 5: and you know comedy and. 58 00:03:10,853 --> 00:03:12,573 Speaker 4: Stuff is your kind of thing, this isn't a film 59 00:03:12,613 --> 00:03:14,813 Speaker 4: for you. This is a film for the discerning film lover, an. 60 00:03:14,773 --> 00:03:17,333 Speaker 5: Art house lover, someone who was really happy just to 61 00:03:17,373 --> 00:03:20,093 Speaker 5: sit and let a film unfold, and you just kind 62 00:03:20,093 --> 00:03:24,653 Speaker 5: of get drawn into this beautiful meditation of life and 63 00:03:24,693 --> 00:03:26,293 Speaker 5: what it all means and its purpose and. 64 00:03:26,213 --> 00:03:31,053 Speaker 4: Things it really is. It really is quite stunning, and 65 00:03:31,093 --> 00:03:34,373 Speaker 4: it's really a story. It just about an ordinary man's life. 66 00:03:34,533 --> 00:03:37,493 Speaker 5: Look, we follow that this character Robert for eighty years 67 00:03:37,493 --> 00:03:38,293 Speaker 5: of his life. 68 00:03:38,573 --> 00:03:39,493 Speaker 4: He was an awphume. 69 00:03:40,133 --> 00:03:42,173 Speaker 5: He doesn't know who his parents were or how they died, 70 00:03:42,213 --> 00:03:45,293 Speaker 5: but he was sort of brought up in Idaho and 71 00:03:45,373 --> 00:03:47,493 Speaker 5: he kind of wandered for a bit and then became 72 00:03:47,533 --> 00:03:49,733 Speaker 5: a logger and was doing a lot of work. This 73 00:03:49,853 --> 00:03:52,253 Speaker 5: is at this sort of the beginning of the nineteen 74 00:03:52,333 --> 00:03:55,813 Speaker 5: hundreds on the Great Northern Railway. And then he finds 75 00:03:55,813 --> 00:03:58,053 Speaker 5: purpose in his life and he meets Gladys played by 76 00:03:58,053 --> 00:04:02,733 Speaker 5: Felicity Jones. Johel Edgerton is Robert, and they fall in 77 00:04:02,773 --> 00:04:05,453 Speaker 5: love and they build this beautiful cabin by river. 78 00:04:05,493 --> 00:04:07,053 Speaker 4: They have a very simple life. 79 00:04:07,293 --> 00:04:11,253 Speaker 5: They work hard, you know, and just as they're sort 80 00:04:11,253 --> 00:04:13,133 Speaker 5: of starting to get to a point in their lives where, 81 00:04:13,493 --> 00:04:16,133 Speaker 5: you know, Robert may no longer have to leave home 82 00:04:16,213 --> 00:04:19,773 Speaker 5: for months on end for the logging season, a tragedy 83 00:04:19,853 --> 00:04:22,733 Speaker 5: strikes and Robert had then has to kind of recover 84 00:04:22,853 --> 00:04:23,893 Speaker 5: from that, and. 85 00:04:23,853 --> 00:04:26,493 Speaker 4: We just follow him. He's an observer of the world. 86 00:04:26,693 --> 00:04:29,133 Speaker 4: He is haunted by. 87 00:04:31,253 --> 00:04:33,413 Speaker 5: An awful thing that he saw happen when he was 88 00:04:33,453 --> 00:04:36,653 Speaker 5: working on the railway, whereby one of his coworkers, a 89 00:04:36,733 --> 00:04:40,253 Speaker 5: Chinese worker was thrown off a bridge and killed. And 90 00:04:40,293 --> 00:04:44,133 Speaker 5: he's haunted by that, and it kind of he feels 91 00:04:43,813 --> 00:04:47,693 Speaker 5: that something bad is about to happen and he because 92 00:04:47,693 --> 00:04:49,693 Speaker 5: he couldn't stop that, that that was going to affect 93 00:04:49,693 --> 00:04:50,133 Speaker 5: his life. 94 00:04:50,533 --> 00:04:51,533 Speaker 4: But he's just an observer. 95 00:04:52,053 --> 00:04:54,053 Speaker 5: The amazing thing about the period of time that this 96 00:04:54,093 --> 00:04:56,373 Speaker 5: film was shot is that the whole world is changing. 97 00:04:56,933 --> 00:05:00,733 Speaker 5: It's gone from a very manual world to technology and innovation, 98 00:05:00,893 --> 00:05:03,853 Speaker 5: and this train is opening up America and he goes 99 00:05:03,893 --> 00:05:06,133 Speaker 5: from an acts to a chainsaw. So we're also just 100 00:05:06,373 --> 00:05:10,013 Speaker 5: seeing how the world changed so dramatically over these eighty 101 00:05:10,093 --> 00:05:12,133 Speaker 5: years of his life, and he's just trying to find 102 00:05:12,693 --> 00:05:15,653 Speaker 5: what his purpose and his meaning is. Joel Edgerton is fantastic. 103 00:05:15,693 --> 00:05:18,053 Speaker 5: I think what I loved about him was he was 104 00:05:18,213 --> 00:05:22,053 Speaker 5: happy to be that observer. I can imagine another actor 105 00:05:22,093 --> 00:05:24,133 Speaker 5: coming in and going, oh my gosh, I'm going to win 106 00:05:24,133 --> 00:05:25,293 Speaker 5: an Oscar for this and I'm going. 107 00:05:25,293 --> 00:05:28,773 Speaker 4: To really throw myself at There'll be a lot more done. 108 00:05:28,853 --> 00:05:31,773 Speaker 4: But he doesn't. He just embodies this person and this character. 109 00:05:32,333 --> 00:05:34,493 Speaker 4: It's just the thought. I mean, I did cry away. 110 00:05:35,133 --> 00:05:37,093 Speaker 5: It was just it was just a couple of hours 111 00:05:37,093 --> 00:05:38,933 Speaker 5: of absolute beauty. 112 00:05:39,293 --> 00:05:41,533 Speaker 4: This week. I loved it. So it's on Netflix. This 113 00:05:41,693 --> 00:05:46,253 Speaker 4: is a little quiet yeah, just you do just need 114 00:05:46,253 --> 00:05:48,693 Speaker 4: to sink into it. It's slow and ponderous. It's a 115 00:05:48,693 --> 00:05:50,133 Speaker 4: slow burner, but I just loved it. 116 00:05:50,253 --> 00:05:53,653 Speaker 3: That sounds fantastic. Okay, thank you, so that's Trained Dreams. 117 00:05:53,893 --> 00:05:57,213 Speaker 3: It's streaming on Netflix at the moment. Your next film 118 00:05:57,253 --> 00:05:59,973 Speaker 3: for us is in cinemas. It is completely different, to 119 00:05:59,973 --> 00:06:03,373 Speaker 3: say the least. This is Christmas karma. 120 00:06:05,173 --> 00:06:08,653 Speaker 2: These kids should be arrested for making such a terrible noise. 121 00:06:09,093 --> 00:06:17,013 Speaker 2: Somebody's on the Northwest. 122 00:06:15,853 --> 00:06:20,493 Speaker 1: And listen. Free Spirits will come to you tonight. 123 00:06:22,253 --> 00:06:22,413 Speaker 4: Dan. 124 00:06:23,493 --> 00:06:28,613 Speaker 3: So, this is a Bollywood inspired British musical nuts. 125 00:06:29,213 --> 00:06:30,893 Speaker 5: I know that there are people out there that the 126 00:06:30,933 --> 00:06:34,693 Speaker 5: minute December hurts, they just love tuning through Christmas film. 127 00:06:34,773 --> 00:06:37,213 Speaker 5: So if you are looking for something a little bit 128 00:06:37,253 --> 00:06:39,653 Speaker 5: sentimental in sweet, you might want to try Christmas Camera. 129 00:06:39,853 --> 00:06:42,813 Speaker 5: I don't know how many adaptations of Charles Dickens a 130 00:06:42,893 --> 00:06:44,093 Speaker 5: Christmas Carol there has been. 131 00:06:44,213 --> 00:06:46,493 Speaker 4: It's like it's its own form genre, to be honest 132 00:06:46,493 --> 00:06:46,733 Speaker 4: with you. 133 00:06:47,093 --> 00:06:50,493 Speaker 5: And this one is directed by Grinda Chada who did 134 00:06:50,693 --> 00:06:52,613 Speaker 5: Bend It like Beckham, so I was really interested to 135 00:06:52,653 --> 00:06:54,933 Speaker 5: see what she did with this film. 136 00:06:55,133 --> 00:06:57,413 Speaker 4: And it is this crazy. 137 00:06:57,093 --> 00:07:00,773 Speaker 5: Mix kind of Bollywood and mine and then it's infused 138 00:07:00,813 --> 00:07:04,333 Speaker 5: with kind of Latin and South Asian and African culture 139 00:07:04,333 --> 00:07:07,133 Speaker 5: and history. It all takes place in London. The Swift's 140 00:07:07,133 --> 00:07:11,533 Speaker 5: throw in all these ideas of this film, and some 141 00:07:11,573 --> 00:07:13,213 Speaker 5: of them stick and some of them don't. I think 142 00:07:13,213 --> 00:07:16,133 Speaker 5: probably the main problem is that the budget for this 143 00:07:16,213 --> 00:07:18,453 Speaker 5: film isn't quite what it really needs to be, so 144 00:07:18,533 --> 00:07:20,773 Speaker 5: it looks it feels a little bit more like sort 145 00:07:20,773 --> 00:07:22,853 Speaker 5: of a TV movie or a TV series, and it 146 00:07:22,893 --> 00:07:24,453 Speaker 5: does the film, and I think if a little bit 147 00:07:24,493 --> 00:07:26,053 Speaker 5: more money been thrown it, it might have been able 148 00:07:26,093 --> 00:07:29,653 Speaker 5: to pull it off a little bit better. Knar Laya 149 00:07:29,773 --> 00:07:33,213 Speaker 5: from Big Bang Theory. He stars as our scrooge, mister sud. 150 00:07:33,453 --> 00:07:37,213 Speaker 5: He's exactly as you expect. He's grumpy, he's this typefisted businessman. 151 00:07:37,293 --> 00:07:40,453 Speaker 5: He's a Hindu, so he doesn't understand also why in London, 152 00:07:40,533 --> 00:07:42,493 Speaker 5: why it's filled with all these different cultures, many of 153 00:07:42,533 --> 00:07:44,733 Speaker 5: them who don't believe in Christmas, who drop everything to 154 00:07:44,773 --> 00:07:45,733 Speaker 5: celebrate Christmas. 155 00:07:46,093 --> 00:07:47,253 Speaker 4: But he's got this really. 156 00:07:47,093 --> 00:07:50,173 Speaker 5: Interesting backstory Jack and he's part of the Ugandan South 157 00:07:50,213 --> 00:07:53,733 Speaker 5: Asian community that was expelled and sent to Britain and 158 00:07:53,733 --> 00:07:55,653 Speaker 5: that's happened when he was a child. So this is 159 00:07:55,653 --> 00:07:58,333 Speaker 5: the interesting thing, right, Some of this is really kind 160 00:07:58,333 --> 00:08:01,853 Speaker 5: of obvious and fun, and then there's these really interesting 161 00:08:01,933 --> 00:08:04,413 Speaker 5: kind of other aspects in there. It talks about racism, 162 00:08:04,493 --> 00:08:07,773 Speaker 5: and racial discrimination and re fugees and fitting in and 163 00:08:07,813 --> 00:08:11,133 Speaker 5: assimilation that is all these other ideas forgiveness and things. 164 00:08:11,413 --> 00:08:13,893 Speaker 4: But it's all a bit nutty. I mean it studs Hu. 165 00:08:13,893 --> 00:08:16,413 Speaker 5: Bonnieville, who's in it for about five minutes even long 166 00:08:16,453 --> 00:08:18,613 Speaker 5: Goora starts as one of the spirits, Billy Porter, and 167 00:08:18,613 --> 00:08:20,373 Speaker 5: boy George turns up, and even boy George to me, 168 00:08:20,533 --> 00:08:21,853 Speaker 5: so if you didn't really look like you when he 169 00:08:21,933 --> 00:08:26,373 Speaker 5: was doing there. The music's by Gary Barlow, to be honest, 170 00:08:26,413 --> 00:08:28,213 Speaker 5: the songs quite memorable. 171 00:08:28,413 --> 00:08:30,093 Speaker 4: So look, it's just it's just. 172 00:08:30,133 --> 00:08:33,773 Speaker 3: It's a bit of Christmas. Yeah, if you love, if you. 173 00:08:33,933 --> 00:08:36,853 Speaker 4: Like Christmas, I think you'll probably Christmas movies and you 174 00:08:36,853 --> 00:08:38,533 Speaker 4: don't mind them. Send me one sweet. 175 00:08:38,693 --> 00:08:40,733 Speaker 5: There are some moving moments in this film, but I 176 00:08:40,813 --> 00:08:43,493 Speaker 5: just think, wow, there's a lot going on. 177 00:08:45,893 --> 00:08:51,733 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, okay, it sounds entertaining, if not necessarily great, 178 00:08:53,973 --> 00:08:57,253 Speaker 3: like yeah, yeah, busy. So that's Christmas karma that's showing 179 00:08:57,293 --> 00:09:01,133 Speaker 3: in cinemas. Francesca's first film is Train Dreams. That's the 180 00:09:01,173 --> 00:09:03,493 Speaker 3: one on Netflix, and both of those films will be 181 00:09:03,613 --> 00:09:05,973 Speaker 3: up on the News Talk He'd be a website. 182 00:09:05,933 --> 00:09:09,053 Speaker 1: For more From Saturday Morning with Jack Tame. Listen live 183 00:09:09,173 --> 00:09:11,973 Speaker 1: to news Talks ed B from nine am Saturday, or 184 00:09:12,053 --> 00:09:13,893 Speaker 1: follow the podcast on iHeartRadio