1 00:00:01,520 --> 00:00:03,440 Speaker 1: Tour of time, of course, and the war a lot 2 00:00:03,480 --> 00:00:05,160 Speaker 1: to be thinking about in Europe at the moment, So 3 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: Catherine Field and France for us in a couple of 4 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:10,080 Speaker 1: moments time meantime. Back here Auckland Council I have approved 5 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 1: the next steps for flood affected land. By the end 6 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 1: of this year, apparently more than twelve hundred high risk 7 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 1: climbs will have been purchased the bill of three hundred 8 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 1: and fifty two million dollars. Large amount of land is 9 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 1: going to be retained for flood resilience. Some safer areas 10 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 1: could be sold for development. The Auckland Council's Policy and 11 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:25,639 Speaker 1: Planning Committee Chair Richard Hills is with us on this 12 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 1: Richard morning to you. 13 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 2: Good morning mate. 14 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 1: Now for the rest of the country not to bore 15 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 1: them witless. This comes out of the storm a couple 16 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:33,199 Speaker 1: of years ago. Why is it taken so long to 17 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:33,640 Speaker 1: get here? 18 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 2: First of all, it took us quite a while to 19 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 2: negotiate with the last government to get a deal, and 20 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:42,879 Speaker 2: then it was we had most of last year that 21 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 2: people could apply to be categorized, and then unfortunately every 22 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 2: single house needed an individual assessment to assess whether it 23 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 2: needed to be purchased a lot. So that's engineering flood. 24 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 2: You know. I think about three and a half thousand 25 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 2: people put themselves forward and we're going to end up 26 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 2: with about twelve hundred properties that are a risk to life. 27 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:06,559 Speaker 1: So would you argue you've done as well as you can? 28 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 2: No, having I would have loved it to be faster. 29 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 2: But a lot of people also put themselves in quite late. 30 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:18,480 Speaker 2: I mean, it's pretty hard for people to decide whether 31 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 2: they want to leave the home. They might have lived 32 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:23,199 Speaker 2: in their whole lives or for a very long time, 33 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:25,960 Speaker 2: and they're starting to see their neighbors being brought out 34 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 2: and thinking, okay, I'm going to put myself into. So 35 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:32,319 Speaker 2: it has taken it some time, but we're hopefully moving 36 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 2: forward this year. A lot of people are happy that 37 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 2: they're able to purchase the house. 38 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 1: When it comes to flood resilience, are you only looking 39 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 1: at the land that got whacked by the storm or 40 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:45,480 Speaker 1: are you're thinking more broadly afield what could happen climatically 41 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 1: over the next dozen years or so and thinking, you know, 42 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 1: along those lines. 43 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, so we do do that anyway. So there are 44 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 2: some projects before the storms, such as in Northcote where 45 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 2: we removed a bunch of houses and removed the pipes 46 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 2: and roads and made sort of a river through Northcote, 47 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 2: which actually fared well during the floods. So we're doing 48 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 2: that in conjunction with this work. So there with twelve 49 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 2: hundred properties, we want to make them safe. We will 50 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 2: look to see if we can sell a big chunk 51 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:15,399 Speaker 2: back to the market if we can make them safe. 52 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:17,239 Speaker 2: So you've got a house on a slab at the 53 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:20,079 Speaker 2: bottom of the section, you may say, you may say 54 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:21,639 Speaker 2: we can build it on stilts at the top of 55 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:23,360 Speaker 2: the section and sell it back to the market, but 56 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 2: a lot of it will be used for. 57 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:29,680 Speaker 1: You'll be trying to sell me something on stilts not still, you. 58 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 2: Know, piles as opposed to sorry, not stilt. 59 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 1: Yes, you're not in real estate retroduce. Stick to the council. 60 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:37,679 Speaker 1: And what have you learned out of all of this? 61 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:40,119 Speaker 1: In people's dealings? I mean I followed with a great 62 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 1: deal of interest out West Auckland. You know the communities 63 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:44,800 Speaker 1: out there, and that we've lived here for it, you know, 64 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 1: the emotion around it and stuff like that. What have 65 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 1: you learned out of all. 66 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 2: Oh, look, it's really hard and it's not like the 67 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 2: Hawks Bay as time where where you might be able 68 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 2: to see from a helicopter where the issues were. In Auckland, 69 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 2: you might have two houses the stuffed next to two 70 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:01,799 Speaker 2: houses that are fine. So there are areas like Milford 71 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:03,640 Speaker 2: where you've got one hundred and forty you know, big 72 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 2: two meters of water went through some of those host 73 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 2: people climbing on their roofs. I think a lot of 74 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 2: Auckland don't know what happened to the people who were 75 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:14,640 Speaker 2: hit the hardest, so it's quite quite jarring for people. 76 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 2: So it's going to be a long row. People are 77 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:19,799 Speaker 2: going to find it hard seeing houses removed from the 78 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 2: street they live on. But hopefully over time we'll be 79 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 2: able to work with the community better to understand where 80 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 2: flooding is and going forward, if we get the government 81 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:32,360 Speaker 2: legislation changes, we'll be able to change our planning rules 82 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 2: to ensure less of this happens in the future. 83 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 1: Good stuff. Richard appreciate it. Richard Hills as an Northland 84 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 1: City Council The Golden Visa I knew it was and 85 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 1: I'm so pleased it's been proved to be true. Was 86 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 1: a good idea. And not only is it a good idea. 87 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 1: It looks to be a smash hit. 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