WEBVTT - The Resident Builder podcast: June 16, 2024 0:00:06.855 --> 0:00:10.055 You're listening to the Resident build Up podcast with Peter 0:00:10.175 --> 0:00:12.015 wolf Camp from News Talks at b. 0:00:13.415 --> 0:00:15.495 Squeaky Door or Squeaky Floor. 0:00:16.015 --> 0:00:19.015 Get the right advice from Peter wolf Camp the Resident 0:00:19.095 --> 0:00:23.695 Builder with Light four Solar offering affordable solar solutions News Talks. 0:00:23.735 --> 0:00:27.175 It be in the home stretch. 0:00:28.375 --> 0:00:29.135 Of the herd. 0:00:31.215 --> 0:00:35.175 It took a heart left, but we're. 0:00:35.095 --> 0:00:44.695 All, yeah, la sure cantra so love Louie b we 0:00:45.495 --> 0:00:50.055 do this right. Is so somethings they ever gonna moved it. 0:00:50.175 --> 0:00:54.815 When the bones are good restat you the bank of field. 0:00:55.255 --> 0:00:59.215 That's the shadow of the woody this you and I 0:00:59.375 --> 0:01:07.975 remain when the crack in the foundation, debbiean Man Stone 0:01:08.055 --> 0:01:12.815 well person the time talk about we stayed the hat 0:01:13.175 --> 0:01:14.775 fall in the bones. 0:01:14.535 --> 0:01:18.335 And m. 0:01:21.095 --> 0:01:22.695 We call it up. 0:01:24.415 --> 0:01:32.495 Baby, you can't even this Nobby boots drive. 0:01:36.095 --> 0:01:36.935 Way go. 0:01:38.415 --> 0:01:43.535 Way, we planny. But the wolves came and went. 0:01:45.015 --> 0:01:46.975 Were still standing on the ball. 0:01:48.215 --> 0:01:54.615 The stone man, the pain Restora came this. 0:01:54.855 --> 0:01:55.935 You wouldn't have a man. 0:01:55.975 --> 0:02:03.255 Stay in a crack in the foundation, baby, Not a 0:02:03.375 --> 0:02:05.175 way stops. 0:02:04.975 --> 0:02:10.255 A little hasn't fallen about. 0:02:38.535 --> 0:02:41.015 Well, very very good morning, and welcome along to the 0:02:41.095 --> 0:02:44.095 Resident Builder. On Sunday, you were me people wolf Camp 0:02:44.175 --> 0:02:47.175 the resident builder, And this is a show. Well, to 0:02:47.255 --> 0:02:49.295 be blunt, it's kind of a show about your place. 0:02:49.335 --> 0:02:53.615 It's about things that might be happening quietly in the background. 0:02:54.655 --> 0:02:59.975 Rust is active, decay happens, Maintenance is a constant requirement 0:03:00.095 --> 0:03:02.175 on our properties. And how do we deal with all 0:03:02.215 --> 0:03:03.935 of that. Well, we've got to be active. We've got 0:03:04.015 --> 0:03:05.735 to be in there, we've got to be searching it out, 0:03:05.855 --> 0:03:09.695 and we've got to be targeting those repairs and that maintenance. 0:03:09.775 --> 0:03:12.015 And that's what this show is all about. So if 0:03:12.055 --> 0:03:14.775 you've got a question of a building nature, the lines 0:03:14.815 --> 0:03:17.935 are open for you. It is eight hundred eighty ten eighty. 0:03:18.055 --> 0:03:20.375 You can text as well, which is nine two nine 0:03:20.455 --> 0:03:23.375 two ISBZB from mobile phone and if you'd like to 0:03:23.415 --> 0:03:25.655 send me an email, you're more than welcome. It's Pete 0:03:25.735 --> 0:03:29.455 at newstalksb dot co dot nz. So trust you've had 0:03:29.495 --> 0:03:32.655 a good week and if you've been trying to get 0:03:32.735 --> 0:03:35.695 something around the house done, then I trust that you've 0:03:35.695 --> 0:03:39.135 had a productive and successful week as well. We can 0:03:39.215 --> 0:03:44.775 talk all things building a construction, products, selection ideas, issues 0:03:44.895 --> 0:03:50.375 with legislation, regulation that controls what we can do and 0:03:50.535 --> 0:03:53.175 when we can do it, and any other sort of 0:03:53.215 --> 0:03:56.935 building and construction related issues that you'd like to raise. 0:03:57.455 --> 0:03:59.575 Eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call. 0:03:59.615 --> 0:04:01.095 Like I say, I hope you've had a really good week. 0:04:01.655 --> 0:04:05.255 I have to say, just very briefly, I had the 0:04:05.335 --> 0:04:07.975 opportunity to go down and be part of Field Days 0:04:08.135 --> 0:04:11.575 for a coup couple of days, so Thursday Friday down 0:04:11.655 --> 0:04:14.495 in Hamilton and staying out or staying in Hamilton out 0:04:14.535 --> 0:04:17.095 at Field Days both days, and I have to And 0:04:17.175 --> 0:04:22.335 I'm a slightly embarrassingly kind of a late convert to 0:04:22.455 --> 0:04:25.255 field Days in the sense that you know, I think 0:04:25.295 --> 0:04:27.495 the first time I went was probably six or seven 0:04:27.575 --> 0:04:30.495 years ago, eight years ago maybe, and I've been there 0:04:30.695 --> 0:04:34.655 fairly regularly since then. But I feel I've probably missed 0:04:34.695 --> 0:04:37.135 out on something over the last thirty or forty odd 0:04:37.215 --> 0:04:38.935 years that I could have been going to Field Days. 0:04:39.015 --> 0:04:42.575 It is a fantastic event every single year, and for me, 0:04:42.855 --> 0:04:44.775 just quickly, one of the things that I most enjoy. 0:04:45.815 --> 0:04:48.135 One it's the opportunity just to have a chat with 0:04:48.175 --> 0:04:50.615 a whole bunch of people. And the other part of 0:04:50.655 --> 0:04:52.335 it is that when you get the opportunity to talk 0:04:52.375 --> 0:04:56.415 to young people at field Days. It would be too 0:04:56.495 --> 0:04:59.055 easy to say they're kind of different than city kids. 0:04:59.175 --> 0:05:02.735 But undoubtedly I come away from field Days chatting with 0:05:03.495 --> 0:05:07.255 a classic. I'm there doing some stuff with Apex boots, 0:05:07.335 --> 0:05:09.295 and people are coming in. They're looking for new safety 0:05:09.375 --> 0:05:11.255 gear and that sort of thing. And then there'll be 0:05:11.295 --> 0:05:13.655 a bunch of young fellas and so they're standing there 0:05:13.735 --> 0:05:16.775 and their gum boots and their Swan dryers or their 0:05:17.015 --> 0:05:19.655 Stony creek and all their attire and wet weather gear 0:05:19.695 --> 0:05:22.215 and you needed that at field Days this year. And 0:05:22.295 --> 0:05:23.895 then I'll go, Okay, so what are you guys up to, 0:05:24.135 --> 0:05:27.295 and young fellow goes, oh, I work in air traffic 0:05:27.375 --> 0:05:28.415 control at Total. 0:05:28.295 --> 0:05:28.855 On the airport. 0:05:28.935 --> 0:05:29.295 Awesome. 0:05:30.175 --> 0:05:33.295 The other young chap oh, I'm studying at Lincoln University 0:05:33.375 --> 0:05:36.855 for an agricultural a finance agricultural degree. I'm like, this 0:05:37.055 --> 0:05:37.495 is awesome. 0:05:38.415 --> 0:05:38.535 You know. 0:05:38.575 --> 0:05:41.855 A couple of others were either into training or into jobs. 0:05:42.015 --> 0:05:45.695 They were motivated. They were not waiting around for the 0:05:45.775 --> 0:05:48.175 world to help them out or anything. They just go 0:05:48.335 --> 0:05:49.895 get us. And I think that's the really nice thing 0:05:49.895 --> 0:05:52.495 about being at field Days is that pretty much everyone 0:05:52.575 --> 0:05:55.055 you meet is doing stuff and that's awesome. That's what 0:05:55.135 --> 0:05:56.455 we want to be doing. We want to be doing 0:05:56.495 --> 0:05:58.135 stuff around the house. So if you need a hand 0:05:58.175 --> 0:06:01.815 with that, I can help by talking and chatting and discussing. 0:06:02.375 --> 0:06:05.215 Maybe not on the end of a hammer or giving 0:06:05.255 --> 0:06:07.095 a hand with a paint brush, but let's get stuck 0:06:07.135 --> 0:06:09.535 into it. Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the 0:06:09.615 --> 0:06:12.575 number to call pretty much all calls today on the program, 0:06:12.615 --> 0:06:14.695 which I'm delighted about. I love having the guests, but 0:06:15.615 --> 0:06:18.695 the opportunity to just spend the entire morning talking about 0:06:18.735 --> 0:06:20.935 your place is great. So let's get into it. Oh 0:06:21.015 --> 0:06:23.655 eight hundred eighty ten eighty the number to call all 0:06:23.735 --> 0:06:26.535 things building construction. This is the resident builder on Sunday 0:06:26.815 --> 0:06:29.575 and Marty A very good morning to you all. 0:06:29.695 --> 0:06:30.375 Good morning, Pete. 0:06:30.375 --> 0:06:30.655 How are you. 0:06:30.935 --> 0:06:31.855 I'm very well. Thanks. 0:06:33.495 --> 0:06:34.095 We're just looking. 0:06:34.615 --> 0:06:38.015 We've got a property that we're looking at. It's a rural, 0:06:38.695 --> 0:06:41.495 rural property. It's a it's got to shed on it, 0:06:42.055 --> 0:06:45.495 nothing's permitted. It's got a shed on it, which I 0:06:45.615 --> 0:06:50.015 think would be you know, built under the amount of 0:06:50.055 --> 0:06:53.295 squares needed. Short no permanent, but they've got a but 0:06:53.415 --> 0:06:58.575 they've put an living accommodations a fireplace. Nothing's permitted. They've 0:06:58.615 --> 0:07:00.735 got off the side of the shed. 0:07:00.775 --> 0:07:01.255 They've got a. 0:07:02.775 --> 0:07:06.935 You could call a utility room with a kitchen, at toilet, 0:07:07.015 --> 0:07:10.455 shower set, The tanks are all there. There's two of 0:07:10.495 --> 0:07:15.535 them on the property. What's the what's the go about 0:07:15.615 --> 0:07:18.895 getting it permitted through the council? 0:07:20.935 --> 0:07:27.015 Ah, okay, Look, to be fair, it's a little bit 0:07:27.055 --> 0:07:34.295 of a tortuous pro you know, pathway. So, with the 0:07:34.455 --> 0:07:37.335 risk of repeating myself, one of the things, like back 0:07:37.335 --> 0:07:40.895 in the day, let's say you're in a situation like 0:07:40.975 --> 0:07:44.375 this where either you're looking at purchasing the property or 0:07:44.975 --> 0:07:47.055 something like that, and you've found something that is non 0:07:47.175 --> 0:07:49.455 compliant in the sense that there was never a consent 0:07:49.575 --> 0:07:52.215 for the work. But clearly that sort of work does 0:07:52.415 --> 0:07:54.655 require a consent. When you first said, look, there's a 0:07:54.655 --> 0:07:57.695 shit on the property and it's not consented, I'm like, yeah, well, okay, 0:07:57.775 --> 0:08:00.895 that's probably not an issue regardless. But because it's a 0:08:00.975 --> 0:08:05.135 habitable space and because it's got plumbing in it, it 0:08:05.535 --> 0:08:08.535 would those sorts of buildings always require a consent. 0:08:09.455 --> 0:08:11.535 I don't know whether the shed's got plumbing in it, 0:08:11.695 --> 0:08:14.535 that sheds a standalone everything, okay. 0:08:14.295 --> 0:08:17.255 But adjacent to it, is this living space. 0:08:17.055 --> 0:08:18.335 This accommodation beside. 0:08:18.415 --> 0:08:21.375 Yeah, yeah, so they put a fire box in the 0:08:21.615 --> 0:08:26.695 shed itself yep. And a bedroom, but the kitchenette and 0:08:26.855 --> 0:08:29.775 the share and that sort of things in a separate area. 0:08:30.815 --> 0:08:33.455 And whether it's over a septic tank or a plugs 0:08:33.495 --> 0:08:34.335 into a septic tank. 0:08:34.855 --> 0:08:39.375 Yeah, okay. Like the pathway would typically be to apply 0:08:39.535 --> 0:08:43.575 for a certificate of acceptance, so you won't get it. 0:08:43.735 --> 0:08:47.415 There's no such thing anymore as a retro retrospective building consent, 0:08:48.055 --> 0:08:52.495 so you could go for a CoA certificate of acceptance. 0:08:52.935 --> 0:08:59.895 The burden of proof is very similar to basically to 0:09:00.015 --> 0:09:02.615 putting in a building consent, So you've got to prove 0:09:02.815 --> 0:09:06.495 that the structure is up to it and whether you 0:09:06.575 --> 0:09:08.135 can do that in terms of you know, is it 0:09:08.255 --> 0:09:11.335 framed with the correct material, are the LINTL sizes correct? 0:09:11.735 --> 0:09:14.255 Are the foundations correct? Then you have to prove that 0:09:14.335 --> 0:09:17.855 the plumbing systems are compliant with the code, so you 0:09:17.975 --> 0:09:23.295 need to have someone assess the septic system. You need 0:09:23.375 --> 0:09:28.535 to get a consent or a certificate for the fireplace, 0:09:28.655 --> 0:09:32.735 because they that alone triggers the requirement for a building consent. 0:09:33.575 --> 0:09:37.535 It might be doable, and potentially rural areas might have 0:09:37.655 --> 0:09:40.655 a slightly different approach to these sorts of structures than 0:09:40.975 --> 0:09:46.495 urban areas, but in terms of actually getting it fully compliant, 0:09:47.415 --> 0:09:48.815 it is quite the process. 0:09:50.455 --> 0:09:53.615 Okay, yeah, cost wise too, it would be. 0:09:53.935 --> 0:09:57.335 And again, at the risk of repeating myself, I've often 0:09:57.415 --> 0:10:00.735 told this story where let's say a couple of years ago, 0:10:00.735 --> 0:10:02.895 you used to have safe and sanitary reports. Right, So 0:10:03.815 --> 0:10:05.615 let's say you discovered that part of a house that 0:10:05.695 --> 0:10:07.975 you were interested and had work that had been done 0:10:08.095 --> 0:10:11.255 that obviously didn't get a building consent, and so you 0:10:11.375 --> 0:10:13.695 rang the council. They came out, they had a walk around, 0:10:13.735 --> 0:10:15.495 they went, yep, it looks like it's not going to 0:10:15.535 --> 0:10:19.215 fall down, and it looks like it's reasonably sanitary, and 0:10:19.375 --> 0:10:22.575 they'll issue you a safe and sanitary But people started 0:10:22.655 --> 0:10:25.775 to take advantage of that by going I'm going to 0:10:25.855 --> 0:10:27.175 do the work and then I'm just going to ask 0:10:27.215 --> 0:10:28.895 for a safe and sanitary at the end or a 0:10:29.015 --> 0:10:32.295 CoA at the end. Ooh, sorry, silly me, I forgot 0:10:32.375 --> 0:10:35.455 to get one. And now councils have really tightened up 0:10:35.735 --> 0:10:39.175 on the issuing of those, and the burden, like I say, 0:10:39.815 --> 0:10:43.935 is the burden of proof is equivalent to a building consent, 0:10:44.975 --> 0:10:49.335 all right now, And I guess the other part of 0:10:49.375 --> 0:10:51.415 this is, so what happens if you don't do it? Like, 0:10:51.495 --> 0:10:52.255 what are the issues? 0:10:52.335 --> 0:10:52.495 Right? 0:10:53.055 --> 0:10:53.255 Yeah? 0:10:54.775 --> 0:10:59.055 And I certainly I have noticed that both in terms 0:10:59.095 --> 0:11:03.575 of lending and in terms of insurance, those sorts of 0:11:03.655 --> 0:11:06.015 things tend to be a real big red flag now 0:11:06.935 --> 0:11:09.895 for insurers and for lenders. And then the other part 0:11:09.935 --> 0:11:13.015 of it, A yeah, I've just heard of people not 0:11:13.135 --> 0:11:15.775 being able to get lending because a building doesn't have 0:11:15.815 --> 0:11:20.495 a CCC, for example, and you won't get a CCC 0:11:20.695 --> 0:11:22.655 for work that doesn't have a well, you won't get 0:11:22.695 --> 0:11:25.655 a CCC regardless if you get to see a certificate 0:11:25.695 --> 0:11:30.415 of acceptance. That's not like having a code compliance certificate. 0:11:31.335 --> 0:11:34.895 And then I you know, insurers might be reluctant to 0:11:35.255 --> 0:11:37.415 ensure a property because they don't know anything about how 0:11:37.455 --> 0:11:40.495 it's been put together and whether it's compliant, right yeah. 0:11:41.295 --> 0:11:43.495 And then the other part of it is when you 0:11:43.615 --> 0:11:47.335 go to sell, then you've got you're passing on the 0:11:47.375 --> 0:11:48.375 issue to another person. 0:11:49.375 --> 0:11:50.095 Yeah, so. 0:11:51.855 --> 0:11:55.695 So yeah, maybe you could maybe if you buy with 0:11:55.855 --> 0:11:59.495 the leave it, leave it uncomplied. 0:12:00.215 --> 0:12:00.775 But then. 0:12:02.255 --> 0:12:06.015 Through the time pull down and replace. 0:12:06.375 --> 0:12:09.895 Well, yeah, absolutely, I mean look if like in your instance, 0:12:09.935 --> 0:12:11.455 and I certainly I can tell you what to do, 0:12:11.615 --> 0:12:14.295 But the I guess you're in a position where if 0:12:14.375 --> 0:12:17.335 it's a secondary dwelling on the property and you don't 0:12:17.375 --> 0:12:20.735 need it for your use, then potentially you could either 0:12:20.815 --> 0:12:23.575 pull it down or replace it, or you could work 0:12:23.615 --> 0:12:25.775 away on that as a project over a period of 0:12:25.855 --> 0:12:29.015 time to get it up to stand it. I suppose 0:12:29.055 --> 0:12:32.015 it's very different if the building that you were going 0:12:32.135 --> 0:12:37.135 to occupy was non compliant. Someone else's text through actually 0:12:37.295 --> 0:12:40.215 and said, you know, are you sure that you're allowed 0:12:40.295 --> 0:12:42.695 to habitable dwellings on that section? 0:12:44.695 --> 0:12:45.495 Are you sure you're what? 0:12:46.015 --> 0:12:48.175 Well, someone has just texted through and said, hey, look, 0:12:48.215 --> 0:12:52.015 the biggest problem is that only one dwelling might be 0:12:52.095 --> 0:12:53.935 allowed on that section. So you'd want to go and 0:12:54.015 --> 0:12:56.815 check planning regulation as to whether or not you're actually 0:12:56.855 --> 0:13:00.335 allowed to have multiple dwellings on one title. Even if 0:13:00.375 --> 0:13:00.895 it is right. 0:13:02.615 --> 0:13:06.055 It is one dwelling although they have put an up, 0:13:06.295 --> 0:13:10.375 they put a little sleep out further up away from 0:13:10.415 --> 0:13:14.415 the shed, and they put a septic tank in there, 0:13:14.695 --> 0:13:18.015 so that you know that can be non user. But 0:13:18.855 --> 0:13:23.015 the what I'm looking at I thought, well, the shed's 0:13:23.495 --> 0:13:27.975 properly built. It's got steel beams, you know and all 0:13:28.055 --> 0:13:31.975 that sort of thing, proper steel beams. But what they've 0:13:32.055 --> 0:13:37.535 done is just added on, added on a smaller shed 0:13:37.735 --> 0:13:39.815 off the side of that shed. I don't think they've 0:13:40.615 --> 0:13:45.615 they've done anything to the shed to incorporate the other building, 0:13:45.775 --> 0:13:49.335 so it's sort of stand alone ish. So you know, 0:13:49.495 --> 0:13:52.455 you could, yeah, you could sort of take that away 0:13:52.535 --> 0:13:55.735 and then do something properly, you know what I mean, Yeah, 0:13:56.255 --> 0:13:57.775 with the council compliance and all. 0:13:57.695 --> 0:14:00.015 That sort of crowd Yeah, that's right, but you would 0:14:00.055 --> 0:14:00.535 want to check. 0:14:01.175 --> 0:14:04.015 So, yeah, the building that we've. 0:14:03.895 --> 0:14:05.495 Been talking about, is that the one that you would 0:14:05.535 --> 0:14:07.375 live in. Is its secondary too? 0:14:08.095 --> 0:14:08.255 Well? 0:14:08.455 --> 0:14:12.415 Yeah, the shed, what were the main The main building 0:14:12.535 --> 0:14:15.095 is the shed that they've put on it, and it's 0:14:15.215 --> 0:14:21.975 proper it's you know, it's done right. But these other 0:14:22.055 --> 0:14:27.335 buildings and the septic tank obviously aren't permitted, but they've 0:14:27.415 --> 0:14:29.615 sort of been. And they look at a little bit 0:14:29.695 --> 0:14:33.055 too that they've been put on as an after thoughts 0:14:33.175 --> 0:14:34.935 or you know, we're kind of kitchen in here, or 0:14:34.975 --> 0:14:36.895 we won't put it in part of the shed sort 0:14:36.935 --> 0:14:37.215 of thing. 0:14:38.375 --> 0:14:43.335 Yeah, mmm. I mean, it just does sound like there's 0:14:43.455 --> 0:14:45.775 you know, there's lots of well this is not quite 0:14:45.855 --> 0:14:47.975 right and that's not quite right. But look, you know 0:14:48.095 --> 0:14:50.175 you've got to do your own due diligence on all 0:14:50.215 --> 0:14:52.775 of that. So good luck with that. I hope it 0:14:52.815 --> 0:14:57.935 all works out for you, Kathy. If you just be 0:14:58.095 --> 0:14:59.735 with us a moment, we'll take the break and then 0:14:59.775 --> 0:15:01.775 we'll come back and talk to Kathy in just a moment. 0:15:01.975 --> 0:15:03.975 If you'd like to join us, talk all Things building. 0:15:04.055 --> 0:15:08.175 Construction Maintenance Regulations eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is 0:15:08.215 --> 0:15:11.615 the number to call your news talk ZB and Pete 0:15:11.615 --> 0:15:13.815 Wolf camp with you this morning talking all things building. 0:15:13.855 --> 0:15:16.655 Good morning, Kathy, Oh, good morning. 0:15:16.695 --> 0:15:17.295 How are you today? 0:15:17.335 --> 0:15:20.015 Morning? Very well on yourself, good good. 0:15:21.095 --> 0:15:23.815 Hey, You've been very helpful to me over the years. 0:15:23.855 --> 0:15:26.975 And I've got another little problem that needs a teaching. 0:15:27.455 --> 0:15:32.215 I've got it was a verandah out the front of 0:15:32.295 --> 0:15:36.175 my place. It's a ninety late nineteen sixty house, and 0:15:36.855 --> 0:15:41.535 the previous zoners put a conservatory over the top, and 0:15:41.735 --> 0:15:44.015 so they built out the branda a little bit and 0:15:44.295 --> 0:15:49.535 used concrete blocks right the corner block right in the corner, 0:15:50.895 --> 0:15:55.655 you know, the outside corner head was cracked when I 0:15:55.775 --> 0:15:59.535 bought it, but now it's actually fallen out and it's 0:15:59.575 --> 0:16:00.175 actually gone. 0:16:00.215 --> 0:16:00.575 I don't know. 0:16:00.615 --> 0:16:05.175 I've picked it up and you know, just probably about 0:16:05.295 --> 0:16:09.375 a food of the block. Right, So the corner, the 0:16:09.495 --> 0:16:12.455 corner of the conservatory sort of sitting on the area, 0:16:13.255 --> 0:16:15.815 but there is blocked underneath that, the top blockers. So 0:16:15.895 --> 0:16:17.695 I'm just wondering how the best. 0:16:21.415 --> 0:16:25.295 Okay, So is the block the piece that's fallen out, 0:16:25.495 --> 0:16:28.775 is that behind it? Was it solid filled or is 0:16:28.855 --> 0:16:31.935 it the blocks are laid with mortar, but they're not 0:16:32.055 --> 0:16:41.415 full with concrete yellow Kathy, Hello, yeah, Hi, Sorry, it's 0:16:41.495 --> 0:16:44.415 not a great line, Kathy. So that the peak, can 0:16:44.455 --> 0:16:44.775 you hear me? 0:16:46.255 --> 0:16:46.455 Yeah? 0:16:46.815 --> 0:16:47.015 Yeah? 0:16:47.135 --> 0:16:50.375 Okay, So the piece that's fallen out behind it is 0:16:50.455 --> 0:16:52.935 there like a void? Is there space or is there 0:16:53.015 --> 0:16:54.175 solid concrete behind it? 0:16:55.895 --> 0:16:57.495 There's solid concrete? 0:16:57.775 --> 0:17:02.295 Okay. If you had the piece, potentially you could glue 0:17:02.335 --> 0:17:07.335 it in. Look, you could make up a render of 0:17:07.575 --> 0:17:10.855 sand and cement, maybe with a bit of a plasticize. 0:17:10.895 --> 0:17:14.175 And you can actually buy like concrete patch repair kits 0:17:14.655 --> 0:17:19.335 which have a sementitious material in them which you can use. 0:17:19.415 --> 0:17:21.575 You can mix it up and what you probably can't 0:17:21.615 --> 0:17:23.935 do is fill it all in one go, but you 0:17:24.015 --> 0:17:26.935 could mix up a little bit, apply a layer maybe 0:17:26.935 --> 0:17:30.015 a centimeter thick or something like that, let that dry off, 0:17:31.095 --> 0:17:34.655 then apply another layer and build it up over two 0:17:34.735 --> 0:17:37.895 or three applications and fill that piece in given that 0:17:37.935 --> 0:17:40.935 you've got something solid for it to adhere to. And 0:17:41.055 --> 0:17:43.095 what you're looking for with those sorts of things is 0:17:43.215 --> 0:17:48.095 that you get a product that has an adhesive included 0:17:48.135 --> 0:17:50.375 in it, which most of the repair kits do have. 0:17:51.895 --> 0:17:53.575 Okay, and so where would I get that? 0:17:54.255 --> 0:17:56.295 All of the large hardware stores will have it, and 0:17:56.455 --> 0:18:00.295 it'll typically be either a Seeker or a ce Mix brand, 0:18:01.215 --> 0:18:04.575 So C mixes ce M I X and then Seeker 0:18:04.815 --> 0:18:08.975 is s I KA. They would be the two largest 0:18:09.175 --> 0:18:11.495 supplies of those types of products. But all of the 0:18:11.615 --> 0:18:12.535 large stores will have it. 0:18:13.855 --> 0:18:19.935 Oh great, yeap, Okay, I'm I've got another question. I 0:18:20.215 --> 0:18:24.295 recently had the store of my house insulated. 0:18:28.095 --> 0:18:29.655 And I'll tell you what, Kathy, we might have to 0:18:29.695 --> 0:18:31.495 get you back on another line because I couldn't hear 0:18:31.615 --> 0:18:33.895 the question. Unfortunate. I hope I've helped you out with 0:18:34.175 --> 0:18:38.615 the bricks hell they're grig okaybe agreed. 0:18:39.455 --> 0:18:46.415 A yeah, question about Falkland council permits. Right, I had 0:18:46.495 --> 0:18:51.015 a free standing fire installed seven years ago. Now I 0:18:51.055 --> 0:18:52.975 was just cleaning it up the other day, doing the 0:18:53.055 --> 0:18:56.535 chimney and the flu sort of thing, and I thought, 0:18:56.775 --> 0:19:00.415 I never sided a completion certificate for this sort of thing, 0:19:00.975 --> 0:19:04.455 so I paid for it when they did the quote, Yeah, 0:19:04.455 --> 0:19:07.655 there's two hundred and ninety five dollars with a permit 0:19:07.735 --> 0:19:10.455 there sort of thing. Should have something been sent to 0:19:10.535 --> 0:19:14.855 me by counsel or by them or yeah, that's a question. 0:19:15.215 --> 0:19:20.135 Oh hey, that's a great question. So all right, let's 0:19:20.175 --> 0:19:24.415 just work through this. So you had obviously a registered 0:19:24.495 --> 0:19:28.695 installer come and install the free standing fireplace, and in 0:19:28.855 --> 0:19:32.255 their quote to you, they said, look, we will do 0:19:32.495 --> 0:19:34.855 the compliance part of it, so we'll make an application 0:19:35.055 --> 0:19:37.775 for a consent, a building consent and it can be 0:19:37.815 --> 0:19:41.255 a limited building consent just to that right. So they 0:19:41.295 --> 0:19:45.775 would have hopefully provided some documentation to council. Council would 0:19:45.775 --> 0:19:51.655 have issued a building consent number and then they may 0:19:51.775 --> 0:19:55.095 not necessarily need to come and inspect that like you 0:19:55.215 --> 0:19:58.655 might not have had a council inspection for it. So 0:19:58.895 --> 0:20:02.695 some types of building work, what happens is and this 0:20:02.815 --> 0:20:06.055 can often be the case with let's say retrofitting insulation. Right, 0:20:06.535 --> 0:20:10.255 so counsel know what the process is, know who the 0:20:12.415 --> 0:20:15.175 companies are that are doing it, and you still have 0:20:15.335 --> 0:20:18.375 to have the formality of applying for a building consent. 0:20:18.495 --> 0:20:21.495 The building consent is granted, but they don't necessarily come 0:20:21.655 --> 0:20:26.535 and do an inspection. They're reliant on a producer statement 0:20:27.095 --> 0:20:30.855 from the installer to say that they've done it in 0:20:30.895 --> 0:20:35.815 accordance with the building code and then and the specifications 0:20:35.855 --> 0:20:46.575 of the precisely specific fireplace. Yeah, I'm just I suppose 0:20:46.655 --> 0:20:48.775 what I'm a little bit unsure about is whether or 0:20:48.815 --> 0:20:51.695 not how you get like typically the last part of 0:20:51.775 --> 0:20:54.175 that process. So you apply for a building consent, you 0:20:54.215 --> 0:20:57.175 have the inspections, you provide the documentations, you apply for 0:20:57.895 --> 0:21:02.095 a Code Compliance Certificate CCC, and then if there's nothing 0:21:02.175 --> 0:21:08.335 missing in there, they will issue you with a CCC statement. Right, 0:21:09.815 --> 0:21:12.815 So in this instance here you don't necessarily need inspection. 0:21:13.415 --> 0:21:17.575 Does that mean that they you immediately get a CCC 0:21:17.815 --> 0:21:20.575 for it? I guess the thing would be is if 0:21:20.615 --> 0:21:24.215 you could go back to the installer and see whether 0:21:24.295 --> 0:21:27.575 or not they've got any paperwork, or you could actually 0:21:27.655 --> 0:21:30.535 go directly to council, give them the address and say 0:21:30.855 --> 0:21:35.655 is there a building consent for this type of work registered? A? 0:21:35.895 --> 0:21:37.895 Right? Yeah, that's yeah, that's that's sort of wondering if 0:21:37.935 --> 0:21:38.895 I could go. 0:21:39.095 --> 0:21:42.495 There and in fact whatever even if you get a 0:21:42.615 --> 0:21:45.335 limb right, a land information memorandum on the. 0:21:46.175 --> 0:21:47.575 That's another four hundred backs on it. 0:21:48.695 --> 0:21:51.815 You can get the property file for about seventy odd bucks. 0:21:54.095 --> 0:21:56.375 Yeah, yeah, you're true, but. 0:21:58.415 --> 0:22:00.935 Like like if not paid for it, Oh hey, look 0:22:01.015 --> 0:22:04.975 in that case, what I in seventy years? Yeah, that's 0:22:05.215 --> 0:22:08.455 fair enough to but looks you know seven years ago, 0:22:08.455 --> 0:22:11.535 it's not that long. If the company is still in existence, right, 0:22:12.295 --> 0:22:13.855 then you go back to them and go, hey, look, 0:22:13.895 --> 0:22:16.175 I'm the owner of such and such property. You came 0:22:16.255 --> 0:22:19.255 and did this work. Can you show me that you've 0:22:19.295 --> 0:22:22.135 completed the work and that I'm now compliant? So that 0:22:22.175 --> 0:22:24.695 would be a first date. Let's say they're not still there, 0:22:25.015 --> 0:22:27.255 or they've lost the paperwork, or they had a fire 0:22:27.455 --> 0:22:30.815 d D. Then I would probably go directly to counsel 0:22:30.975 --> 0:22:33.575 and go, can you provide me with the records for 0:22:33.655 --> 0:22:36.175 any building consents that were applied for at this property? 0:22:36.535 --> 0:22:40.255 And then you can track it from there and I'm 0:22:40.335 --> 0:22:42.255 just trying to think. Let's say the worst case scenario 0:22:42.455 --> 0:22:45.095 is they go, yep, we received a building consent application, 0:22:45.575 --> 0:22:48.415 but we haven't received any documentation from the installer to 0:22:48.455 --> 0:22:51.135 say that it's compliant. What you could do is get 0:22:51.375 --> 0:22:54.615 or yeah that's right. But what you could do is 0:22:54.735 --> 0:22:59.095 then get someone who's licensed in terms of fireplace installation 0:22:59.455 --> 0:23:04.015 right to come assess it, give you a certificate that says, look, 0:23:04.375 --> 0:23:07.415 I've checked it, it's compliant. You could then submit that 0:23:07.495 --> 0:23:12.535 to council and they should hopefully just issue you with 0:23:13.095 --> 0:23:15.055 a sort of a completion certificate. 0:23:15.135 --> 0:23:19.255 Basically, yeah, yeah, I've done where you suggest that I've 0:23:19.295 --> 0:23:21.975 been in touch with the installers, they're still operational. 0:23:22.215 --> 0:23:22.415 Good. 0:23:23.575 --> 0:23:25.335 But if yeah, they don't come through with it. I 0:23:25.415 --> 0:23:27.455 think I was just wondering what the next step was, 0:23:27.975 --> 0:23:30.975 or even even if when that was issued, the consent 0:23:31.255 --> 0:23:37.335 was completed, whether us being the owner, we get a 0:23:37.415 --> 0:23:40.895 copy or it's just just put on filet council. 0:23:43.055 --> 0:23:48.135 If you've applied for a c ccply you know what 0:23:48.175 --> 0:23:55.375 I mean. Installers, Look, it might it may well be 0:23:55.575 --> 0:23:58.215 that it's sitting on a council record, right and they 0:23:58.295 --> 0:24:00.295 haven't sent it to you because you didn't apply for 0:24:00.375 --> 0:24:06.815 it directly. So let's remember that in the legislation, the 0:24:07.775 --> 0:24:11.095 getting a CCC is required. Right, So if you've had 0:24:11.135 --> 0:24:14.135 a building, if you've had work done restricted building work done, 0:24:14.175 --> 0:24:16.895 you've had a consent, you must apply for a CCC. 0:24:18.895 --> 0:24:23.695 And the responsibility for applying for the CCC is always 0:24:24.415 --> 0:24:25.455 the homeowner. 0:24:25.055 --> 0:24:28.175 On the owner. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know that too. 0:24:28.735 --> 0:24:34.655 Or you've learned that now. Yeah. Look, hopefully you know 0:24:34.735 --> 0:24:37.535 it'll be one of those things where it might take you, 0:24:38.015 --> 0:24:40.175 you know, a little bit of effort to get it, 0:24:40.295 --> 0:24:41.375 but hopefully it should. 0:24:41.135 --> 0:24:41.575 All be there. 0:24:43.695 --> 0:24:44.255 Good luck with it. 0:24:45.775 --> 0:24:46.215 One of the things. 0:24:46.255 --> 0:24:46.735 Yeah, go for it. 0:24:46.775 --> 0:24:50.655 One other things. Just looking at buying a block of 0:24:51.215 --> 0:24:56.215 four flats down down Hamilton left and in the in 0:24:56.295 --> 0:24:59.175 the bathroom and a couple of them. It's got pony 0:24:59.255 --> 0:25:04.175 floor dodge, Yes, right, you can, you can. You can 0:25:04.215 --> 0:25:06.855 always put your foot through it. Can you cut out 0:25:07.375 --> 0:25:10.215 the dodgy bit? Or does the whole bathroom need to 0:25:10.255 --> 0:25:12.695 be cut out and replaced with ply sort of thing? 0:25:13.335 --> 0:25:15.575 Funny I was looking at it, well, not funny haha, 0:25:15.735 --> 0:25:19.535 but I was looking at exactly that on Monday, where 0:25:19.815 --> 0:25:22.135 in an area that had kind of been used as 0:25:22.175 --> 0:25:26.095 a kitchenette and so on. It was particle board flooring. 0:25:26.175 --> 0:25:29.295 It was kind of nineteen nineties and they obviously hadn't 0:25:29.295 --> 0:25:33.095 done a great job in seventy Yeah, okay, so yeah, 0:25:33.135 --> 0:25:36.015 if it's had a slow, persistent leak there, that floor 0:25:36.095 --> 0:25:41.055 will be pretty average. The challenge is often that joys 0:25:41.135 --> 0:25:42.975 are laid down, the flooring is laid down, and the 0:25:43.135 --> 0:25:46.055 timber frames sit on top, right, and so yeah, you 0:25:46.095 --> 0:25:47.775 can cut the floor out, but how do you get 0:25:47.815 --> 0:25:50.455 that piece of flooring out from underneath the bottom plate, 0:25:51.535 --> 0:25:53.855 And in some cases you can't. You just leave it 0:25:53.935 --> 0:25:56.455 in there. You cut alongside the bottom plate, nouget, and 0:25:56.535 --> 0:25:59.135 then sheet in a new piece. Look, I mean, if 0:25:59.215 --> 0:26:01.975 you're going to you know, if you're going to the 0:26:02.055 --> 0:26:05.615 extent of repairing part of it, knowing perhaps that there 0:26:05.735 --> 0:26:09.255 is some decay that's on the way, but isn't that 0:26:09.375 --> 0:26:11.055 bad and the rest of it? Wouldn't you try and 0:26:11.175 --> 0:26:13.455 do the whole floor? But then that's stripping out a 0:26:13.495 --> 0:26:14.415 whole bathroom. 0:26:15.695 --> 0:26:20.335 Yeah, it's taken out the Yeah that the vanity the 0:26:20.415 --> 0:26:23.295 bath the isn't it. 0:26:26.175 --> 0:26:29.335 I mean, look, you know you've obviously got to. 0:26:29.575 --> 0:26:34.495 Just keep taking it away until you get to sound, yes, ideally, yeah, yeah, 0:26:35.095 --> 0:26:38.135 but so so yeah, once you get the sound, it's 0:26:38.215 --> 0:26:40.575 not you don't necessarily have to take the whole thing 0:26:40.615 --> 0:26:44.375 out of the bathroom. It can be replaced. Well, these days, 0:26:44.375 --> 0:26:46.455 I think you replace it with ply. It's got to 0:26:46.495 --> 0:26:49.735 be so it's nice and smooth and put your line down. 0:26:49.935 --> 0:26:51.335 Yeah, yeah, that's right. 0:26:51.415 --> 0:26:53.735 And sometimes this is what happens. You know, typically the 0:26:53.855 --> 0:26:56.975 leak is in one area, right, in this case, the 0:26:57.055 --> 0:26:58.895 one that I was looking at, it was actually not 0:26:59.055 --> 0:27:01.215 from any of the fittings inside the room. It was 0:27:01.415 --> 0:27:04.695 poor flashing detail on the joinery, right, and so water 0:27:04.735 --> 0:27:07.135 are tracked in there and and right on the corner 0:27:07.255 --> 0:27:10.615 of the joinery, you know, that's where it had like 0:27:10.775 --> 0:27:13.055 literally I could put my hand through the floor it was. 0:27:13.295 --> 0:27:16.215 It was in that sort of state. So yeah, in 0:27:16.335 --> 0:27:18.735 this instance here, because we're changing the use of the room, 0:27:19.015 --> 0:27:22.175 we've stripped out the entire floor. But you don't necessarily 0:27:22.255 --> 0:27:23.775 need to do that. You can sort of take a 0:27:23.855 --> 0:27:28.735 targeted approach. No good, all right, good luck with that, Okay, 0:27:29.055 --> 0:27:32.535 take care. Nice to see people still getting into property investment. 0:27:33.015 --> 0:27:35.975 I suppose now is god I heard a story like that, 0:27:36.535 --> 0:27:39.735 you know, lots of talk about the property market and 0:27:39.775 --> 0:27:43.175 where it's at. So a property that I'm aware of 0:27:44.015 --> 0:27:49.815 has a CV of about one point six vendor expectation 0:27:50.135 --> 0:27:54.855 being realistic, was maybe one point two offer on the 0:27:54.975 --> 0:28:01.615 table eight point fifty. Yeah, that might indicate where part 0:28:01.695 --> 0:28:03.575 of the housing market is. But good on your greg 0:28:03.615 --> 0:28:05.775 for having a crack. Eight hundred and eighty ten eighty 0:28:05.935 --> 0:28:08.495 is the call, Margaret. We will come back to you 0:28:08.655 --> 0:28:09.855 straight after the break. 0:28:10.975 --> 0:28:14.935 Measure twice god once, but maybe call Pete first. 0:28:15.135 --> 0:28:18.695 Peter wild Gap, the resident builder with late four solar 0:28:18.935 --> 0:28:21.535 offering affordable solar solutions, used. 0:28:23.255 --> 0:28:25.775 Your news talks B. We're taking your calls on all 0:28:25.855 --> 0:28:30.455 things building, construction, renovating and maintenance, and Margaret are very 0:28:30.495 --> 0:28:31.095 good morning to you. 0:28:31.895 --> 0:28:35.855 Good morning, Peter morning. I have a garage that's part 0:28:35.935 --> 0:28:39.775 of my house and I want to extend the garage 0:28:40.095 --> 0:28:43.135 door and get a new electric door. Do I need 0:28:43.255 --> 0:28:43.815 a permit? 0:28:45.295 --> 0:28:47.535 Okay? So there's two parts of that one. You say 0:28:47.615 --> 0:28:50.015 you wanted to extend your garage door. Do you want 0:28:50.055 --> 0:28:51.455 to make the opening wider? 0:28:52.375 --> 0:28:52.575 Yes? 0:28:52.935 --> 0:28:57.095 Okay, So making the opening wider will trigger a requirement 0:28:57.175 --> 0:29:02.055 for a building consent. Changing the door itself won't so 0:29:02.455 --> 0:29:05.415 because because making the doorway open means that you've got 0:29:05.495 --> 0:29:09.215 to extend the lintel the beam that spans that opening, 0:29:09.975 --> 0:29:12.055 and so counsel will want to know that that work 0:29:12.175 --> 0:29:15.175 is done to the building code. Therefore you'll need a 0:29:15.255 --> 0:29:16.175 building consent for that. 0:29:17.055 --> 0:29:19.335 So that's not the same as a permit, or is it? 0:29:19.855 --> 0:29:20.095 Yees? 0:29:20.215 --> 0:29:23.255 So in the it's a change in language. So prior 0:29:23.335 --> 0:29:26.975 to about nineteen ninety we had building permits. After nineteen 0:29:27.095 --> 0:29:31.215 ninety ish we've got building consents. So yes, a building 0:29:31.255 --> 0:29:32.935 consent is the new terminology. 0:29:33.815 --> 0:29:35.415 Yes, so thank you very much for that. 0:29:35.855 --> 0:29:38.655 But yes, you will need a building consent for that. Yes, 0:29:38.815 --> 0:29:41.095 thank you, No trouble at all. Margaret, all the best, 0:29:42.295 --> 0:29:44.135 and Craig, a very good morning to you. 0:29:45.135 --> 0:29:46.095 Good morning. How's the game today? 0:29:46.215 --> 0:29:46.735 Not bad things? 0:29:47.895 --> 0:29:50.615 I thought a continuity projud I was stalking the other 0:29:50.695 --> 0:29:56.975 day about the underground lab. Oh yes, yeah, we've done 0:29:57.015 --> 0:29:58.735 a bit of a cleanout, had a whole of plywood 0:29:58.775 --> 0:30:01.095 floor on that. Basically the property. You come up like 0:30:01.175 --> 0:30:03.335 a hell to the house. It's sound like about a 0:30:04.495 --> 0:30:10.495 ten Aker site. Yeah, it's kind of ruish, not two 0:30:10.535 --> 0:30:12.055 close to neighbors, but yeah, you come up the house. 0:30:12.455 --> 0:30:13.855 You got the house there, and then you've got the 0:30:15.255 --> 0:30:18.895 pre mentioned underground place underneath it. But then the back 0:30:19.015 --> 0:30:21.895 lawns all got gardens of flower gardens you would and 0:30:21.975 --> 0:30:23.735 couldn't really tell at all. But then right at the 0:30:23.775 --> 0:30:27.015 back of the back lawn there's a big concrete wall 0:30:27.095 --> 0:30:31.095 and behind that it steps down to like a pond. 0:30:31.295 --> 0:30:34.135 There's got like probably about a probably about a one 0:30:34.215 --> 0:30:37.935 acre pond there with like ducks and stuff on it. Yeah, 0:30:38.055 --> 0:30:40.375 it's kind of a little little jutty thing. You could 0:30:40.375 --> 0:30:42.055 sit on there. Fish, but I think you didn't catch much, 0:30:42.095 --> 0:30:45.815 probably carp and eels. But anyway, we're cleaning up the 0:30:46.855 --> 0:30:49.095 the underground part. They're taking all the plot in the 0:30:49.135 --> 0:30:52.055 corner and we found there's like a little hole in 0:30:52.215 --> 0:30:54.375 the corner, so we cleared it out, and what we 0:30:54.455 --> 0:30:57.815 found is is in the corner it's got like about 0:30:57.855 --> 0:30:59.735 a meter and a half pipe to go straight down 0:30:59.855 --> 0:31:02.215 congrege pipe, and there's all the mud in the bottoms. 0:31:02.215 --> 0:31:03.895 It cleared down and it started flooding the wood. And 0:31:03.975 --> 0:31:05.615 what worked out is it goes down from there and 0:31:05.655 --> 0:31:08.575 then does the right nineteen, goes under and then pops 0:31:08.615 --> 0:31:12.375 out in the pond. Crighty, So I think the guy 0:31:12.455 --> 0:31:13.935 must have been in to dive in or whatever it 0:31:14.015 --> 0:31:17.975 may be used to. Just I don't know that's where 0:31:18.015 --> 0:31:18.375 and where. 0:31:19.015 --> 0:31:20.535 I have to say, it's got to be one of 0:31:20.615 --> 0:31:24.375 the best stories I've heard ever while I've been doing 0:31:24.415 --> 0:31:26.175 the show. It's just extraordinary. 0:31:27.175 --> 0:31:28.575 So it's fine for us too. 0:31:28.975 --> 0:31:32.015 For a bit of context without going into too much detail. 0:31:32.055 --> 0:31:34.695 This is a native yours who's purchased a property to 0:31:34.895 --> 0:31:38.695 uncover a tunnel that leads to a subterranean room. And 0:31:39.495 --> 0:31:41.655 I'm right with the sizes. A you're talking like it's 0:31:41.695 --> 0:31:43.895 six meters by twenty meters. 0:31:44.015 --> 0:31:46.415 And it's about nine meters by twenty meters nine. 0:31:48.495 --> 0:31:53.215 Yeah, it's massive, massive, like genuinely massive. And it's not 0:31:53.415 --> 0:31:55.815 like it's nine foot by twenty foot eight. We're talking 0:31:55.975 --> 0:31:58.255 the right measurements. It's nine meters. 0:31:58.415 --> 0:31:58.615 Yeah. 0:31:59.175 --> 0:31:59.375 Yeah. 0:31:59.815 --> 0:32:02.455 So I'm looking out here at the studio that we're in, 0:32:03.135 --> 0:32:06.175 and I mean it's a big space. 0:32:06.375 --> 0:32:10.575 It's actually bigger than the footprint of the foundation footprint 0:32:10.615 --> 0:32:10.975 of the house. 0:32:11.135 --> 0:32:12.615 And then, to be fair, when we were talking about 0:32:12.615 --> 0:32:14.575 it last week, I was thinking, hey, on how in 0:32:14.655 --> 0:32:17.815 a standard residential dwelling you're never going to fit this 0:32:17.975 --> 0:32:20.695 on right, just won't fit onto a five six hundred 0:32:20.695 --> 0:32:23.775 and seven hundred square meter section, but obviously it's slightly rural. 0:32:24.815 --> 0:32:27.655 But yeah, and then a connection to a pond, it 0:32:27.815 --> 0:32:30.055 must make that space incredibly damp. 0:32:32.695 --> 0:32:34.495 It's not too bad now I've actually gone through. And 0:32:34.775 --> 0:32:37.575 what I've done is put a whole lot of about 0:32:37.655 --> 0:32:40.935 throwing the mill round PBC pipes through down the hallway 0:32:40.975 --> 0:32:42.815 front the main building with their conditioners and put a 0:32:42.855 --> 0:32:45.135 fan on drawlerway down through it. And then what we've 0:32:45.175 --> 0:32:47.775 done is actually just got the old skilly out and 0:32:47.815 --> 0:32:50.415 cut slits in the pipe every kind of moll all 0:32:50.415 --> 0:32:52.215 the way down it. Yep, so you get quite a 0:32:52.255 --> 0:32:54.055 lot of warm here coming through. So it's actually driven 0:32:54.055 --> 0:32:56.175 it quite a lot. But the question I've got is 0:32:56.295 --> 0:32:58.735 the floor, And it's just concrete. What we're looking to 0:32:58.815 --> 0:33:00.615 do and is putting down some floor, And I was running, 0:33:00.615 --> 0:33:02.535 could I probably just use the same sort of stuff 0:33:02.575 --> 0:33:05.855 you put like in marine gray carpet, you using like 0:33:05.935 --> 0:33:08.335 garret because they don't really work underlayer or anything. Just 0:33:08.375 --> 0:33:10.935 something like that, which means it should tide it up 0:33:10.975 --> 0:33:12.375 a little bit and then give it a little bit 0:33:13.135 --> 0:33:14.415 resistance to getting. 0:33:14.175 --> 0:33:18.255 Wet garage carpet's great in that location because you know, 0:33:18.375 --> 0:33:20.535 if you think about it's designed to get wet, right, 0:33:20.615 --> 0:33:22.095 you drive on it with your car and the water 0:33:22.175 --> 0:33:24.695 drops down onto it. So yeah, in that sense, yeah, 0:33:24.735 --> 0:33:27.575 that would be ideal. And the other you'd want to 0:33:27.655 --> 0:33:31.175 check with the garage carpet guys. But depending on the 0:33:32.295 --> 0:33:35.055 condition of the concrete, you may also want to apply 0:33:35.255 --> 0:33:37.855 like a vapor barrier to the concrete before you put 0:33:38.455 --> 0:33:42.335 the flooring down, just just to help keep moisture out 0:33:42.335 --> 0:33:42.975 of that space. 0:33:44.215 --> 0:33:46.015 Well, funny you should say that we're already done that 0:33:46.095 --> 0:33:48.015 with done if we've got a whole lot of this stuff. 0:33:48.055 --> 0:33:51.375 We did the floor the other day and the so 0:33:51.575 --> 0:33:54.935 called tunnel and also the walls or the everything it 0:33:55.015 --> 0:33:56.815 was also in the blocks or congrue. Basically done the 0:33:56.855 --> 0:34:00.255 whole thing. Fantast a little bit extra layer because we 0:34:00.335 --> 0:34:04.215 thought possibly later on putting lining around the walls, and 0:34:04.255 --> 0:34:07.055 we're looking at possibly just using probably marine imply just 0:34:07.095 --> 0:34:08.815 to give it a little bit more protection in case 0:34:09.375 --> 0:34:11.375 around just to get well, i'd rather look into concrete 0:34:11.415 --> 0:34:12.735 walls because you're standing here for a while and it 0:34:12.775 --> 0:34:16.855 looks like you're in a prison cell. So we started 0:34:16.895 --> 0:34:20.535 doing that. Just what I've done is we've got eighty 0:34:20.655 --> 0:34:23.855 more mariingray ply. I atually showed about twenty something of 0:34:23.895 --> 0:34:25.535 that and cut it in the strips, and this year 0:34:25.655 --> 0:34:27.135 there for Bettons to go onto the wall. 0:34:27.015 --> 0:34:30.695 And plan and then yeah, yeah. 0:34:30.695 --> 0:34:33.655 That's all kind of but yeah, it's just like we're 0:34:33.695 --> 0:34:36.215 moving on sole plan in the corner and nearly fell 0:34:36.255 --> 0:34:37.735 in this whole and ago there's a hole down here, 0:34:37.775 --> 0:34:41.015 and he goes, so he started cleaning out and goes, no, 0:34:41.215 --> 0:34:45.095 that's around concrete pipe, and I go, were jaking, Go, 0:34:45.175 --> 0:34:47.175 I wonder where that goes. Maybe there's another layup, maybe 0:34:47.175 --> 0:34:48.175 there's another level blow. 0:34:49.655 --> 0:34:51.135 But that's just extraordinary. 0:34:51.975 --> 0:34:53.775 Kind of makes sense because when we moved the kidney 0:34:53.775 --> 0:34:54.775 out of the way, there was a whole lot of 0:34:54.855 --> 0:34:56.855 old diving equipment and National. 0:34:56.655 --> 0:34:57.695 Metal Government yep. 0:34:58.015 --> 0:35:00.175 So I was thinking he probably used to just maybe 0:35:00.295 --> 0:35:02.535 worried about the zombie populace or whatever. I thought, well, 0:35:02.615 --> 0:35:04.295 you have an escape plane. You can just go into 0:35:04.335 --> 0:35:05.775 the pond. But it's like, well, once you get it 0:35:05.815 --> 0:35:09.775 where you can, well, i'll keep you update. 0:35:09.575 --> 0:35:12.855 Of you please do I love the story a work 0:35:12.895 --> 0:35:16.535 in progress. Hey really appreciate it's fantastic. That's absolutely stunning. 0:35:17.615 --> 0:35:21.215 Eight one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call. Robbie. 0:35:21.295 --> 0:35:21.895 Greetings to you. 0:35:23.455 --> 0:35:26.495 Yes, good morning, Pete. Hey there, just wondering if you 0:35:26.575 --> 0:35:33.295 can remember you often referred to a wood restorer. What 0:35:33.455 --> 0:35:35.575 I've got. I've got to patch up some stuff from 0:35:35.655 --> 0:35:41.055 my daughter's place. And the bottom of the little piece 0:35:41.135 --> 0:35:43.695 of form one ground the outside of the window is 0:35:43.815 --> 0:35:46.935 rotten at the bottom. Yes, of those about twenty five 0:35:47.055 --> 0:35:50.295 miles And I'm just wondering with that. I've tried a 0:35:50.375 --> 0:35:52.215 couple of hardware out that's. 0:35:52.455 --> 0:35:53.615 I don't know what I'm talking. 0:35:53.775 --> 0:35:55.735 Yeah, sure, that Builder's. 0:35:55.415 --> 0:35:58.455 Bog or something like that. Do you have a brand 0:35:58.695 --> 0:35:58.935 for this? 0:35:59.535 --> 0:35:59.735 Yeah? 0:36:00.415 --> 0:36:02.895 Yeah, it is so the product that I use, and 0:36:03.015 --> 0:36:05.255 I tend like I'm just thinking about something that's twenty 0:36:05.335 --> 0:36:08.895 five mil Ideally, what you should do is cut that 0:36:09.095 --> 0:36:11.815 section out and put in another piece of timber, because 0:36:11.855 --> 0:36:15.015 it's a lot of filler to put in there. But 0:36:15.335 --> 0:36:19.415 what just because it's quicker, right Ultimately, So if you've 0:36:19.455 --> 0:36:21.735 got access to a multi tool, that's where these things 0:36:21.815 --> 0:36:25.775 come in handy, you could get in there cut cut 0:36:25.855 --> 0:36:28.975 out a little bit of the timber, apply some timber 0:36:29.055 --> 0:36:34.175 preservative to the exposed grain that'll stop the decay from expanding. 0:36:35.295 --> 0:36:38.175 And then find a piece of tantalized or treated timber, 0:36:38.655 --> 0:36:41.215 just roughly cut that to size, glue that in with 0:36:41.375 --> 0:36:44.055 some exterior wood glue, and then if it's still a 0:36:44.095 --> 0:36:46.415 little bit hollow, which it will be, because it's easier 0:36:46.535 --> 0:36:49.415 just to put a piece in there, right, and then 0:36:50.335 --> 0:36:56.135 grab The one that I use is it's called Repair Care, right, 0:36:57.175 --> 0:37:00.775 Repair Care, and you can buy it from Rasine color shops. 0:37:01.815 --> 0:37:05.615 They've got it. Read the instructions. It's a little bit 0:37:05.615 --> 0:37:08.295 of a process. It has like a primer that you 0:37:08.415 --> 0:37:13.015 apply and then it extrudes and mixes together. And then 0:37:13.375 --> 0:37:16.255 the beauty of it is is that it's it's an 0:37:16.335 --> 0:37:19.215 adhesive and a filler, and so you can apply it 0:37:19.695 --> 0:37:21.815 and then you can shape it and finish it and 0:37:21.935 --> 0:37:24.935 sand it and then paint it. So Repair Care is 0:37:25.015 --> 0:37:26.135 the one that we're talking about. 0:37:27.055 --> 0:37:29.935 Yep, yep. I think I'd probably have to take the 0:37:30.015 --> 0:37:32.895 effort and take those off and get a bit of 0:37:32.975 --> 0:37:36.015 form one terenalized just place the whole thing. 0:37:36.135 --> 0:37:36.415 Jolly. 0:37:37.335 --> 0:37:39.775 It may well be easier to do, but you know, sometimes, 0:37:39.815 --> 0:37:41.535 like I've done, it where you might have a little 0:37:41.535 --> 0:37:43.415 bit of rot, let's say in the corner of a sill. 0:37:43.855 --> 0:37:45.735 You don't have to take the whole sill out because 0:37:45.975 --> 0:37:48.415 essentially go take the window out and in that instance, 0:37:48.495 --> 0:37:51.175 if you can cut out any of that rotten material, 0:37:51.615 --> 0:37:56.455 chizzle it out, apply some timber preservative to stop it 0:37:57.175 --> 0:38:01.055 that decay extending and expanding and continuing to grow in 0:38:01.095 --> 0:38:04.215 that space, dropping a piece of tantalize, and then finish 0:38:04.735 --> 0:38:11.655 the with the repair care is great, all the best, the. 0:38:11.775 --> 0:38:14.455 Likes of Buss. 0:38:14.935 --> 0:38:20.455 And there will be similar types of products possibly, but 0:38:20.535 --> 0:38:22.295 I just know that if you go to Razine you'll 0:38:22.335 --> 0:38:26.255 find it there. Yes, mate, so thank you my pleasure, 0:38:26.415 --> 0:38:28.495 all the best, Take care, Craig. We'll take a break. 0:38:28.535 --> 0:38:31.055 We'll be back with some texts before new sport and 0:38:31.175 --> 0:38:32.815 we're the top of the hour at seven, which is 0:38:33.335 --> 0:38:34.375 nine minutes away. 0:38:35.055 --> 0:38:36.135 Doing other house sporting. 0:38:36.215 --> 0:38:39.015 The garden asked Pete for a hand the resident builder 0:38:39.175 --> 0:38:42.295 with Peter Wildcam and Life for Dollar now offering a 0:38:42.375 --> 0:38:43.815 free battery upgrade. 0:38:47.855 --> 0:38:49.735 Your news talks b We're coming up to news time. 0:38:49.775 --> 0:38:53.255 Couple of texts before then, Hey Pete, A sparky I 0:38:53.415 --> 0:38:57.535 E and electrician in the formal language, installed two bathroom 0:38:57.615 --> 0:38:59.855 fans for us about a year ago. I've discovered that 0:38:59.975 --> 0:39:03.055 he did not vent them to the outside properly. He 0:39:03.175 --> 0:39:06.175 also did not leave us with the COC. Is the 0:39:06.575 --> 0:39:08.535 problem and if so, what recourse do I have? 0:39:10.815 --> 0:39:11.015 Yeah? 0:39:11.055 --> 0:39:13.895 I mean, look, that's poor work, right. The whole point 0:39:13.935 --> 0:39:16.295 of putting a fan is that you extend it to 0:39:16.375 --> 0:39:19.135 the exterior and make sure that it vents either through 0:39:19.175 --> 0:39:21.175 the cladding or the roof or the safita or something 0:39:21.295 --> 0:39:25.175 like that. So that's poor work. And yes, all electricians, 0:39:25.255 --> 0:39:28.055 the best of my knowledge, should leave with their clients 0:39:28.495 --> 0:39:33.255 a COC certificate of compliance after they finished the job. 0:39:33.295 --> 0:39:37.055 That's standard practice. I guess you could go back to 0:39:37.135 --> 0:39:41.735 them in the first instance. But electricians are also registered, right, 0:39:41.855 --> 0:39:45.335 so you could go to the Electrical Safety Board Electrical 0:39:45.415 --> 0:39:49.175 Registration Board and point out that this is poor work 0:39:49.215 --> 0:39:51.455 on their part. So maybe tell them that you're going 0:39:51.495 --> 0:39:52.935 to do it, and I hope that they'll come back 0:39:52.975 --> 0:39:55.135 and do the work and make sure that it's compliant. 0:39:56.455 --> 0:39:59.375 And you could also have the work assessed by an 0:39:59.415 --> 0:40:03.215 inspector as well if you wanted to talk of the bunker, 0:40:03.775 --> 0:40:06.175 because undoubtedly we're going to be talking about this for years. 0:40:07.135 --> 0:40:10.015 Nobody really knows what it was ever designed to do. 0:40:11.775 --> 0:40:14.975 This is the great mystery that we have uncovered, right. 0:40:14.975 --> 0:40:17.375 Another text, is it possible to replace a corner shower 0:40:17.415 --> 0:40:20.295 tray which has developed a crack? Very hard to take 0:40:20.335 --> 0:40:23.615 the shower tray out without taking the doors and the 0:40:23.735 --> 0:40:28.335 wall lining off? In fact, pretty much almost impossible. And 0:40:28.935 --> 0:40:31.655 a fairly large number of texts with regard to the 0:40:31.775 --> 0:40:36.135 change in opening song for the show. Some love it, 0:40:36.415 --> 0:40:42.895 some don't. I'm inclined to persevere and we'll come back 0:40:42.895 --> 0:40:46.175 with a couple more texts. Now, quick, qu quick, very quick. 0:40:46.855 --> 0:40:48.575 I have a corner valiante for an on suite. We 0:40:48.695 --> 0:40:50.535 want to take this corner vanity out and replace it 0:40:50.575 --> 0:40:52.335 with a standard vanity with a bowl on top. Do 0:40:52.455 --> 0:40:54.415 we need to inform the council due to the change 0:40:55.255 --> 0:40:57.815 as on the plans it shows Da da da da da. No, 0:40:58.455 --> 0:41:01.375 you can change the vanity without conforming the council. There 0:41:01.375 --> 0:41:02.695 you go back hard and break. 0:41:04.455 --> 0:41:07.215 The ceiling, fixing the fence. Wondering how to fix that 0:41:07.295 --> 0:41:09.615 hole in the water, you give Peter Wolf Cabin call 0:41:09.735 --> 0:41:12.855 on oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty The resident builder 0:41:13.015 --> 0:41:17.015 with Late four Solar offering affordable solar solutions news talks. 0:41:17.015 --> 0:41:20.255 There'd be righty, Oh, good morning, welcome back to the 0:41:20.295 --> 0:41:22.855 program at Pete Wolf Camp with you the Resident Builder 0:41:23.015 --> 0:41:27.655 here on a Sunday doing a not particularly imaginatively named 0:41:27.695 --> 0:41:29.375 show called The Resident Builder on Sunday. 0:41:29.455 --> 0:41:29.815 There you go. 0:41:29.975 --> 0:41:32.375 Let's keep it simple. Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty 0:41:32.535 --> 0:41:34.455 is the number to call if you would like to 0:41:34.535 --> 0:41:40.455 talk construction, building renovations, compliance regulations, dealing with tradespeople. So 0:41:40.615 --> 0:41:42.455 just before the news we rushed through a couple of 0:41:42.495 --> 0:41:44.975 texts there, including one that said, Hey, look, I've had 0:41:45.015 --> 0:41:48.895 an electrician come to install two fans and I presume 0:41:48.975 --> 0:41:52.935 in two separate bathrooms, and all I've done seemingly is 0:41:53.095 --> 0:41:55.495 put the fan in the ceiling, hocked it up, but 0:41:55.655 --> 0:41:58.215 haven't ducted it to outside. Maybe they had some ducting 0:41:58.295 --> 0:42:00.855 that kind of ran somewhere through the ceiling, but it 0:42:00.935 --> 0:42:03.335 didn't go to outside. And look, there's two parts of that. 0:42:03.455 --> 0:42:07.255 One is, how did it take you, with the growth 0:42:07.295 --> 0:42:08.855 of respect, how did it take you a year to 0:42:08.975 --> 0:42:11.295 notice that there was no ducting on the outside, Because 0:42:11.335 --> 0:42:15.415 that's kind of quite straightforward, to be really honest. But 0:42:15.695 --> 0:42:19.055 the fact that they didn't do it knowing full well 0:42:19.415 --> 0:42:22.175 that that's the proper thing to do, would say that 0:42:22.255 --> 0:42:26.335 they're not a terribly good electrician. And then, to the 0:42:26.415 --> 0:42:29.935 best of my knowledge, all electrical work, so electrician comes, 0:42:30.215 --> 0:42:34.255 let's say, adds a PowerPoint or does some changing the 0:42:34.335 --> 0:42:36.255 light bulb, they're not going to issue you with a COC. 0:42:37.095 --> 0:42:39.455 But typically for all electrical work at the end of 0:42:39.735 --> 0:42:41.255 the work, at the end of the job, they will 0:42:41.655 --> 0:42:45.855 write down what they did and issue you with a statement. 0:42:45.975 --> 0:42:48.575 So like on a triplicate form that goes this is 0:42:48.895 --> 0:42:52.615 a COC, a certificate of compliance for the electrical work 0:42:52.655 --> 0:42:55.935 that's done. And my understanding is that all electricians must 0:42:56.135 --> 0:42:58.895 issue that for the work that they do. So the 0:42:58.975 --> 0:43:01.615 fact that this one didn't vent to the outside and 0:43:01.815 --> 0:43:04.775 didn't issue a COEOC would say that they have breached 0:43:04.815 --> 0:43:10.415 their guidelines. Reations and electricians, a little bit like gas 0:43:10.455 --> 0:43:15.775 fitters and so on, are self regulating in the sense 0:43:15.855 --> 0:43:17.775 that if you get a if you're doing an alteration 0:43:18.015 --> 0:43:20.735 or you've done a new build, the electrician will come, 0:43:20.935 --> 0:43:23.975 they will do the work. There's no council inspector that 0:43:24.135 --> 0:43:28.775 looks at the electrical work. You might get an inspector, 0:43:29.295 --> 0:43:33.855 another electrical inspector to come and check their work at 0:43:33.895 --> 0:43:36.975 the end, particularly for work that's done on distribution board. 0:43:37.375 --> 0:43:41.015 But there's no outside authority that comes and checks their work. 0:43:41.055 --> 0:43:46.855 So they are self regulating. So I suppose the requirements 0:43:47.015 --> 0:43:49.175 around the type of work that they do would be 0:43:49.335 --> 0:43:52.455 higher because they are self certifying. That's what I'm trying 0:43:52.495 --> 0:43:54.895 to say. So yeah, and in that sense, I would 0:43:54.895 --> 0:43:58.815 also be thinking seriously perhaps about registering a complaint with 0:43:59.255 --> 0:44:02.215 the Electrical Registration Board on that type of behavior and 0:44:02.255 --> 0:44:04.495 that type of work as well. Oh, eight one hundred 0:44:04.655 --> 0:44:08.535 eighty ten eighty is number to call. And somebody liked 0:44:08.535 --> 0:44:10.775 what I said about field days, and yeah, I have 0:44:10.895 --> 0:44:15.815 spent Thursday Friday of this week just past at field Days, 0:44:16.415 --> 0:44:17.975 and I mentioned then I'm a bit of a late 0:44:18.095 --> 0:44:20.815 convert to it, but I always enjoyed the time. And 0:44:20.975 --> 0:44:23.055 one of the things I most enjoy is that typically 0:44:23.535 --> 0:44:27.135 you're there with people who are doers. They are people 0:44:27.215 --> 0:44:29.975 who are doing stuff, and I love that they're making stuff, 0:44:29.975 --> 0:44:33.095 they're active and they're involved, whether that's you know, the 0:44:33.175 --> 0:44:35.375 old farmer that I was chatting to, who's kind of 0:44:35.615 --> 0:44:38.655 you know, semi retired off the farm because the back 0:44:38.735 --> 0:44:41.295 sow and the knees giving out, and you know, life's 0:44:41.415 --> 0:44:44.415 about more than just working. Through to the younguns who 0:44:44.415 --> 0:44:47.255 are looking at a career knowing that there are real 0:44:47.415 --> 0:44:50.815 challenges to this industry and to that sector of the economy, 0:44:51.175 --> 0:44:55.935 but wanting to be active and engaged. And they're motivated 0:44:56.015 --> 0:44:59.135 and they're smart and they're dedicated, and I love every 0:44:59.215 --> 0:45:01.335 bit of that. And I've got to say one of 0:45:01.335 --> 0:45:03.295 the nicest things about doing these sorts of events is 0:45:03.335 --> 0:45:04.935 that I get to chat to all sorts of people, 0:45:05.695 --> 0:45:07.655 including a a lightful woman who came up to me 0:45:07.775 --> 0:45:11.015 in the Ryobi stand and said, look, my dad listens 0:45:11.055 --> 0:45:14.895 to the show regularly and really enjoys the show, which 0:45:14.975 --> 0:45:17.415 is lovely. He tells us all about it later in 0:45:17.495 --> 0:45:19.255 the day and you can imagine what that's like at 0:45:19.375 --> 0:45:21.935 family lunch later in the day. So I said that 0:45:22.015 --> 0:45:25.815 I would definitely say hello to Brian Cleary Kerry, who 0:45:26.335 --> 0:45:30.495 is in fielding, who is probably listening right now, Thank 0:45:30.535 --> 0:45:33.935 you for listening, thank you for your kind words. Lovely 0:45:34.015 --> 0:45:36.575 to meet your daughter at field Days the other day, 0:45:36.615 --> 0:45:39.775 and Brian, I hope you well today. Oh eight hundred 0:45:39.775 --> 0:45:41.935 and eighty ten eighty is the number to call. David 0:45:42.015 --> 0:45:43.095 A very good morning to you. 0:45:43.935 --> 0:45:45.335 Oh Peter, how are you this morning? 0:45:45.415 --> 0:45:46.575 I'm very well, thank you, David. 0:45:47.215 --> 0:45:52.255 Good Thanks Peter. I've got a question here at our house. 0:45:52.655 --> 0:45:55.015 We're wondering about whether we can rent the downstairs or not. 0:45:56.255 --> 0:45:59.455 I understand it well. I think you need to have 0:45:59.575 --> 0:46:02.815 fire proof the floor and or at least the setting 0:46:02.855 --> 0:46:06.495 of the downstairs, and so it's one about rules to 0:46:07.375 --> 0:46:08.375 how would you do that work? 0:46:09.655 --> 0:46:16.495 Okay? So yep, all right. So essentially, in order to 0:46:16.935 --> 0:46:21.135 create a sublet within an existing building, you have to 0:46:21.335 --> 0:46:24.975 prove that that building is isolated in terms of acoustics, 0:46:25.015 --> 0:46:28.415 but in particular in terms of fire from the rest 0:46:28.495 --> 0:46:31.335 of the dwelling. And you might find that that's not 0:46:31.575 --> 0:46:33.735 just the case of it of doing fire rating on 0:46:33.815 --> 0:46:36.895 the ceiling, it may also extend to walls. There are 0:46:36.975 --> 0:46:40.855 some other requirements as well, around things like egress and 0:46:41.015 --> 0:46:45.855 so on. You'd also need. Ultimately, short answer is you're 0:46:45.855 --> 0:46:49.015 going to need a building consent for that work, right yep. 0:46:50.175 --> 0:46:52.695 And in order to get that, you'll need to have 0:46:52.775 --> 0:46:55.735 someone draw ups and plans. You'll need to check that 0:46:55.855 --> 0:46:59.535 in fact it is permissible under planning regulations to have 0:46:59.895 --> 0:47:05.095 a separate rental unit attached. You wouldn't look to change 0:47:05.135 --> 0:47:07.375 the title. It's not like you going to crod a 0:47:07.415 --> 0:47:11.655 new title and effectively subdivide that off. It's always going 0:47:11.735 --> 0:47:13.815 to be part of one dwelling. But you want a 0:47:13.935 --> 0:47:19.975 legal sublet in the on the ground floor, let's say yep, yeah, yeah, 0:47:20.455 --> 0:47:24.775 definitely building consent. You probably in terms of the scope 0:47:24.815 --> 0:47:27.335 of the work, I would imagine you probably end up 0:47:27.375 --> 0:47:30.135 having to take down the existing ceilings replace them with 0:47:30.375 --> 0:47:35.495 fire rated ceilings. There'll be a bunch you know, like that. 0:47:35.695 --> 0:47:37.855 If there's a door that connects that unit to the 0:47:37.895 --> 0:47:40.415 rest of the house, that door will need to be 0:47:40.415 --> 0:47:46.135 birated door. Any walls that adjoin the other habitable part 0:47:46.215 --> 0:47:48.455 of the property will also need to be fire rated. 0:47:48.975 --> 0:47:51.935 In some cases, that fire rating might be able to 0:47:52.015 --> 0:47:54.855 be achieved by putting a lining on one side, but 0:47:55.055 --> 0:47:57.495 most likely the lining's got to go on both sides 0:47:57.535 --> 0:48:02.975 of the wall. So yeah, it's all doable, but don't 0:48:03.135 --> 0:48:06.095 underestimate the scope of the work that you're going to 0:48:06.135 --> 0:48:09.655 have to undertake to make it compliant. And then from 0:48:09.735 --> 0:48:12.215 what I've heard talking about this with people, you know 0:48:12.455 --> 0:48:15.455 the risk of courses. If you decide, gosh, that seems 0:48:15.495 --> 0:48:16.975 like a lot of work, I'm just going to rent 0:48:17.055 --> 0:48:21.535 it quietly and so on. If there's a problem, then 0:48:21.615 --> 0:48:23.815 you might find that your insurance is not that keen 0:48:23.895 --> 0:48:25.935 on paying out exactly. 0:48:26.175 --> 0:48:28.495 Yeah, so I guess our first first port of call 0:48:28.535 --> 0:48:30.495 would we go to counsel and find out what their 0:48:30.535 --> 0:48:30.895 rules are? 0:48:31.335 --> 0:48:34.255 Yeah, I think so so. And typically most councils have 0:48:34.415 --> 0:48:36.895 like a building helpline or a you know, and you 0:48:36.975 --> 0:48:39.015 might be able to say, look, my intention is to 0:48:39.735 --> 0:48:43.695 formalize having a sublet in my on my ground floor. 0:48:44.375 --> 0:48:47.255 What are the planning regulations? And then from there on 0:48:47.415 --> 0:48:51.295 and if it's permissible, And council may not want to 0:48:51.415 --> 0:48:53.295 answer that question, so you might have to go to 0:48:53.375 --> 0:48:56.135 a planner or to a surveyor and ask that question. 0:48:56.215 --> 0:48:58.855 And of then if they know the rules for the area, 0:48:59.175 --> 0:49:01.855 they might say yes, it's permissible. Then you're off to 0:49:02.375 --> 0:49:05.615 someone to draw up plans for that, submit the building consent. 0:49:05.895 --> 0:49:08.495 Then it's restricted building work. So you've got to have 0:49:08.575 --> 0:49:12.615 an LBP either do or supervise the work, undertake the work, 0:49:12.855 --> 0:49:15.535 do the final inspection, do the CCC, and the can 0:49:15.615 --> 0:49:18.575 go these your income. 0:49:19.935 --> 0:49:23.695 Right, So building planner is that an architect or is 0:49:23.735 --> 0:49:24.575 that a super. 0:49:25.975 --> 0:49:30.535 So in order to submit plans like draw plans and 0:49:30.575 --> 0:49:33.895 submit them to counsel, you have to be a design LBP. Now, 0:49:35.135 --> 0:49:39.855 by default, all architects are design lbps in the same 0:49:39.895 --> 0:49:43.775 way that architectural designers. So someone who's a member of 0:49:43.815 --> 0:49:48.775 the New Zealand Institute of Architectural Draftsmen or Architectural Designers 0:49:49.415 --> 0:49:52.495 will be one. But yes, so you have to have 0:49:52.535 --> 0:49:56.335 a now under the new legislation not so new ten 0:49:56.375 --> 0:49:59.055 to fifteen years, you've got to be a design LBP 0:49:59.215 --> 0:50:02.615 in order to submit plans. And the reason that that's 0:50:02.735 --> 0:50:05.815 kind of interesting is that back in the day, anyone 0:50:05.935 --> 0:50:08.815 could plans as long as the plans were up to standard, 0:50:09.615 --> 0:50:12.655 and it wasn't uncommon to work with people who were 0:50:12.695 --> 0:50:14.975 builders who would also do their own plans. And that's 0:50:15.055 --> 0:50:18.935 a little bit uncommon these days. So there's a few 0:50:19.615 --> 0:50:21.095 hurdles to jump over. 0:50:21.975 --> 0:50:24.215 There are Well, that's pretty helpful, thank you for. 0:50:24.975 --> 0:50:27.615 Yeah, all the very best. You take it over them. 0:50:28.695 --> 0:50:33.575 That's one of those things that it's like funny, I've 0:50:33.615 --> 0:50:35.975 been to a couple of places, you know, sort of 0:50:36.055 --> 0:50:38.455 pre purchased inspections and that sort of thing, and you're 0:50:38.495 --> 0:50:40.535 looking around and someone will say, oh, yeah, and we've 0:50:40.575 --> 0:50:43.335 got this little flat downstairs and you know, we get 0:50:43.455 --> 0:50:45.015 three hundred bucks a week for it, et cetera. And 0:50:45.055 --> 0:50:48.495 then you go, so is that actually compliant in terms 0:50:48.535 --> 0:50:52.455 of was it designed to be a sublet or if 0:50:52.455 --> 0:50:54.655 you just added you know, you might have a big 0:50:55.015 --> 0:50:57.255 bedroom and a rumpus room downstairs and it happened to 0:50:57.295 --> 0:50:59.495 have an on sweet and then you plug in a 0:50:59.815 --> 0:51:01.615 pop and a sink in the corner and add a 0:51:01.655 --> 0:51:04.375 little cooker and hey, presto, there's our sublet. And that's 0:51:04.735 --> 0:51:09.735 typically if that's the case, that's not compliant. So if 0:51:09.775 --> 0:51:11.975 you're looking at them, they're either compliant or they're not. 0:51:12.295 --> 0:51:14.455 Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to 0:51:14.495 --> 0:51:25.535 call ah interesting one. Oh here we go. So we're 0:51:25.575 --> 0:51:32.815 talking about we're talking about the electrical work that was 0:51:32.855 --> 0:51:36.255 done by someone who texts and someone's just sent through, 0:51:36.335 --> 0:51:39.815 Hey Pete, I've just had three separate electrical jobs done. 0:51:40.375 --> 0:51:44.135 All were issued as coc by email. Okay, so that's 0:51:44.175 --> 0:51:46.255 the new way of doing it as well. Used to 0:51:46.295 --> 0:51:49.935 be on triplicate form. Obviously, these days, digitally you can 0:51:49.975 --> 0:51:52.215 do it as well. The interesting thing with that comment 0:51:52.375 --> 0:51:57.975 via the text is that the person did the electrician 0:51:58.055 --> 0:52:01.375 did issue a COC and I my understand, and then 0:52:01.455 --> 0:52:03.975 someone else's text through Hey, Pete, I thought a COC 0:52:04.255 --> 0:52:06.335 was only required to be issued by an independent and 0:52:06.735 --> 0:52:09.575 when a building consent was involved, would an electrician just 0:52:09.655 --> 0:52:12.935 not issue a PS four? Electricians don't issue PS fours 0:52:13.215 --> 0:52:17.775 that I even for work that I've had done by 0:52:17.815 --> 0:52:21.935 an electrician that doesn't wasn't done with a building consent, 0:52:22.375 --> 0:52:26.095 they have still issued me COC and I think that's 0:52:26.095 --> 0:52:29.215 standard practice. I'll find out. Oh eight hundred eighty ten 0:52:29.255 --> 0:52:30.775 eighty is the number. We've got a couple of spare 0:52:30.815 --> 0:52:35.495 lines for those who might be supporting Albania. You would 0:52:35.535 --> 0:52:38.895 have got very excited with the opening of the euro 0:52:39.135 --> 0:52:41.535 match that's on at the moment, when Albania shocked the 0:52:41.655 --> 0:52:46.615 world by going one nil up over Italy. But anyway, 0:52:46.695 --> 0:52:48.775 Italy are two one up at the moment, and you 0:52:48.855 --> 0:52:50.695 can see this being a big score for Italy. But 0:52:51.375 --> 0:52:54.055 they looked a little surprised when the Albanians went one 0:52:54.175 --> 0:52:56.135 nil up within the first four minutes of the game. 0:52:56.575 --> 0:52:58.815 Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call. 0:52:59.375 --> 0:53:01.455 Squeaky door or Squeaky floored. 0:53:01.975 --> 0:53:05.375 Get the right advice from Beata Walcam the resident builder 0:53:05.615 --> 0:53:09.375 with late Solar now offering a free battery upgrade decencies 0:53:09.415 --> 0:53:10.815 a way news dogs be. 0:53:12.375 --> 0:53:14.495 Just on the electrical And who was I gos? I 0:53:14.535 --> 0:53:15.935 was talking to someone the other day. It might have 0:53:15.975 --> 0:53:19.255 been at Field Days actually who was an electrician, And 0:53:20.335 --> 0:53:24.535 I said, look, I'm happy to comment on electrical matters, 0:53:24.575 --> 0:53:27.735 but I do hasten to point out the fact that 0:53:27.815 --> 0:53:31.895 I'm obviously not a registered electrician, and that I'm trying 0:53:32.015 --> 0:53:35.375 to restrain my comments to things that I know something about. 0:53:35.415 --> 0:53:39.335 But ultimately it's a very specialist task. And if in 0:53:39.455 --> 0:53:43.695 any doubt, because of the safety issues around electricity and 0:53:43.735 --> 0:53:47.175 the horrible things that can go wrong, you should always 0:53:47.215 --> 0:53:50.935 be using a registered electrician. And this might apply to 0:53:51.015 --> 0:53:54.255 the person that's just text as well. My electrics keep 0:53:54.335 --> 0:53:58.255 turning off after a few minutes. The kettle boils, turns off, 0:53:58.335 --> 0:54:01.415 then won't restart. Sounds like an expense. Now, it depends 0:54:01.455 --> 0:54:03.775 on whether it's is it a problem with the kettle 0:54:03.895 --> 0:54:09.295 or is the kettle overloading the circuit and the circuit 0:54:09.455 --> 0:54:13.255 or the breaker on the board is tripping out, which 0:54:13.295 --> 0:54:18.095 it shouldn't. Just for a kettle either way, if you've 0:54:18.215 --> 0:54:20.815 just moved and if you own it, I would suggest, 0:54:21.135 --> 0:54:23.975 in fact, what I would suggest for anyone who's maybe 0:54:24.215 --> 0:54:27.495 moving into a new house or you've purchased a property 0:54:27.495 --> 0:54:30.415 and you don't know who's worked on the property and 0:54:30.735 --> 0:54:32.815 all the rest of it is actually get an electrician 0:54:32.975 --> 0:54:36.575 in a registered electrician, ideally an electrical inspector, which is 0:54:36.655 --> 0:54:39.095 kind of the next step up, and get them to 0:54:39.175 --> 0:54:42.895 come through and test the house because there are fantastic 0:54:43.615 --> 0:54:48.055 testing equipment that they have that can identify a fault 0:54:48.495 --> 0:54:53.095 that might in the future cause, you know, a fire 0:54:53.255 --> 0:54:55.455 or something like that. So you can have your whole 0:54:55.495 --> 0:54:58.615 house tested by an electrical inspector. And I think that 0:54:58.655 --> 0:55:03.055 would actually be money well spent, oh eight hundred eight. 0:55:03.135 --> 0:55:05.615 And for the person who's got the kettle, if that's 0:55:05.855 --> 0:55:08.455 tripping the board, then yes, I would get an electrician 0:55:08.495 --> 0:55:11.015 to come and check that as well. Oh eight hundred 0:55:11.015 --> 0:55:17.735 and eighty ten eighty. Hello they're headley, Oh goody, I 0:55:17.775 --> 0:55:19.375 don't have a question, I have information. 0:55:20.975 --> 0:55:25.895 I'm an electrical inspector. Awesome, So your man that's installed 0:55:25.975 --> 0:55:30.255 the bathroom fan. He if any instant, any electrical work 0:55:30.295 --> 0:55:33.135 that requires a running of cables or relocating things or 0:55:33.255 --> 0:55:37.215 anything like that has to have a COC issued and 0:55:38.015 --> 0:55:40.095 when it's completed in love, and it has to have 0:55:40.135 --> 0:55:41.655 an electrical safety certificate. 0:55:42.815 --> 0:55:46.655 Any stock, Yeah, yep, and no not only stock. 0:55:46.735 --> 0:55:49.055 That's a completely separate thing. And that's too big for 0:55:49.135 --> 0:55:52.935 this session. Okay, elect an electrical safety certificate. If I 0:55:53.095 --> 0:55:56.535 replace a light switch, an electrical safety certificate, ifire replace 0:55:56.615 --> 0:56:01.295 of PowerPoint and electrical safety certificate. So you must do 0:56:01.495 --> 0:56:03.815 that paperwork, and you must give it to the person 0:56:03.855 --> 0:56:08.335 who contracted you to do the work. If you don't 0:56:08.655 --> 0:56:12.935 give that paperwork, you've committed two offenses, failing to certify 0:56:13.055 --> 0:56:15.975 and failing to provide the document. So you're in trouble already. 0:56:17.535 --> 0:56:20.055 The fans not being vented to the outside. It's probably 0:56:20.095 --> 0:56:23.335 not an electrical problem, but most certainly, and it would 0:56:23.335 --> 0:56:24.575 be a breach of the building code. 0:56:24.895 --> 0:56:26.895 Well, it speaks to poor workmanship, doesn't it. 0:56:27.855 --> 0:56:31.855 Absolutely. There are also boxes on the COOC to tick, 0:56:32.375 --> 0:56:35.535 and one of those boxes is in relation to complying 0:56:35.575 --> 0:56:40.815 with manufacturers instructions right, and most manufacturers instructions for a 0:56:41.455 --> 0:56:44.615 for a fan probably say things like stick it out 0:56:44.695 --> 0:56:47.135 through this, defeat all of you know whatever the roof. 0:56:47.735 --> 0:56:50.255 You know, just vending them into the sailing space was 0:56:50.335 --> 0:56:52.535 like thirty years ago, no longer acceptable. 0:56:52.935 --> 0:56:56.095 But is there any electrical I'm just thinking about practical 0:56:56.175 --> 0:56:58.215 things that you might call an electrician in to do. 0:56:58.535 --> 0:57:01.575 Is there any work at all where an electrician would 0:57:01.575 --> 0:57:04.855 do the work but not be expected to issue a COEC, 0:57:05.375 --> 0:57:07.735 which is a certificate of compliance, isn't it? 0:57:09.015 --> 0:57:11.855 Yeah, the typical compliance actually requires you to do some 0:57:12.015 --> 0:57:15.135 physical work. The only thing that you probably would get 0:57:15.175 --> 0:57:17.615 away with not certifying would be if you just went 0:57:17.695 --> 0:57:18.535 in and did testing. 0:57:19.095 --> 0:57:19.855 Okay, so you went. 0:57:20.935 --> 0:57:28.175 But there's another document called a certificate verification, which is 0:57:28.215 --> 0:57:31.255 typically issued when you want to relive on a property 0:57:31.255 --> 0:57:33.095 after it's been turned off for more than six months. 0:57:33.655 --> 0:57:36.175 But you can get an electrician to do a certificate 0:57:36.175 --> 0:57:40.015 of verification at any time, and you can get an 0:57:40.055 --> 0:57:42.735 inspector to do one as well. And a certificate verification 0:57:43.895 --> 0:57:47.935 has several levels. There are several sort of sections of 0:57:48.095 --> 0:57:52.735 the standard that you do them under, so ranges from 0:57:52.775 --> 0:57:57.535 having has got to look at it to you know, 0:57:57.695 --> 0:58:00.415 like a visual inspection, and then there's kind of a 0:58:00.455 --> 0:58:03.575 physical inspection, and then there's a testing inspection. So there's 0:58:03.615 --> 0:58:07.415 three different layers. You can go to bed and but 0:58:07.535 --> 0:58:08.695 you issue a certificate of. 0:58:08.775 --> 0:58:14.215 Verification, right, I'm just thinking in terms of practical terms. 0:58:14.255 --> 0:58:17.335 People like a story that people might relate to. Let's 0:58:17.335 --> 0:58:22.095 say you've got the old, old fashioned incandescent down lights 0:58:22.175 --> 0:58:26.375 right circa nineteen ninety and so you decide, I'm going 0:58:26.415 --> 0:58:31.255 to upgrade those and put in new energy efficient LED replacements, 0:58:32.615 --> 0:58:34.935 so no building work required, but I'm going to take 0:58:35.015 --> 0:58:38.735 out that old incandescent fitting and replace it. You do 0:58:38.895 --> 0:58:44.575 that work. It's relatively straightforward, I guess would that work automate? 0:58:44.655 --> 0:58:47.575 You would expect a COC from the electrician for that. 0:58:47.655 --> 0:58:52.655 Work, and most likely just electrical safety. 0:58:52.375 --> 0:58:54.095 Certificate, right, okay. 0:58:54.775 --> 0:58:57.215 Which is if you look at a COC if you've 0:58:57.215 --> 0:58:59.695 ever seen the triple get one. Yep, the bottom seach 0:58:59.775 --> 0:59:02.135 and the bottom two inches or so. Yes, the electrical 0:59:02.255 --> 0:59:04.855 safety certificate part of it. So you're filling everything else, 0:59:05.215 --> 0:59:07.215 but you have to sign the bottom but the electrical 0:59:07.295 --> 0:59:12.015 safe testificate because you haven't done any you haven't run 0:59:12.015 --> 0:59:15.895 any cables. What you've done is replaced fittings. Yes, and 0:59:16.015 --> 0:59:19.655 that makes it that's low risk work. And the only 0:59:19.735 --> 0:59:24.375 work that requires inspection with the capital is high risk 0:59:24.455 --> 0:59:29.535 work which is relating to mainz and main earthing systems. So, 0:59:30.255 --> 0:59:36.655 but typically your inspectors responsibilities for a new build or 0:59:37.735 --> 0:59:40.695 stop at the main switch in the main switchboard. He's 0:59:40.935 --> 0:59:43.535 the inspector is only required to inspect the mains in 0:59:43.575 --> 0:59:46.615 the main earthing system. That's that's kind of his remit. 0:59:46.735 --> 0:59:51.495 There After that, the electrician self certifies exactly the same 0:59:51.575 --> 0:59:54.735 as the gaft fitter or the or the plumber. But 0:59:55.495 --> 0:59:58.975 if if the guy has done the work, I would 0:59:59.055 --> 1:00:02.255 ring him and offer him the opportunity to remedy. 1:00:02.255 --> 1:00:02.935 For work. 1:00:05.295 --> 1:00:08.095 That and then for your refuses, and he won't give 1:00:08.095 --> 1:00:11.615 you paperwork your avenue of complaints to the electric work 1:00:11.615 --> 1:00:15.375 as a registration board, and they'll be only too happy 1:00:15.455 --> 1:00:18.935 to come along and you know, Tip's pockets out and 1:00:19.095 --> 1:00:22.415 give my good telling off. But you must offered him 1:00:22.415 --> 1:00:23.615 the opportunity to rectify. 1:00:24.215 --> 1:00:25.735 That would be the smart hope, wouldn't it. 1:00:26.335 --> 1:00:29.335 I know, I know circumstances where where the customers come 1:00:29.375 --> 1:00:31.095 back to the electricians said they want their money back, 1:00:31.535 --> 1:00:34.815 and he said no, I'll come and fix it. And 1:00:35.415 --> 1:00:37.775 you know, it didn't go well for the customer in 1:00:37.815 --> 1:00:41.935 the head didn't go so good for the electrician either, 1:00:41.975 --> 1:00:45.015 because he knew he'd made a mistake, but he wasn't 1:00:45.095 --> 1:00:46.015 going to be you. 1:00:46.055 --> 1:00:46.895 Know, blackmail. 1:00:47.615 --> 1:00:50.935 Yeah, fair enough too. No, No, I mean again, I 1:00:51.015 --> 1:00:55.255 think it's pretty clear. And most electricians, you would hope 1:00:56.055 --> 1:00:59.895 they're aware of what their you know, requirements, legal requirements 1:00:59.935 --> 1:01:03.255 are and they should comply with you know, I suppose 1:01:03.335 --> 1:01:05.135 what it is is that you're given a great deal 1:01:05.175 --> 1:01:08.775 of responsibility and of being able to self certify right, 1:01:08.895 --> 1:01:12.775 and so given that people are entrusting you with that, 1:01:13.175 --> 1:01:17.175 and that your training and professionalism would say that you're 1:01:17.375 --> 1:01:20.495 up to the standard, then it must be disappointing within 1:01:20.575 --> 1:01:23.975 the industry where you see people within the industry letting 1:01:24.055 --> 1:01:25.055 down those standards. 1:01:26.855 --> 1:01:30.975 Oh yeah, I mean I've been doing this for forty years, 1:01:32.175 --> 1:01:35.815 speak of a more than tweety and I haven't had 1:01:36.495 --> 1:01:40.135 much need to complain about people. But a few people 1:01:40.175 --> 1:01:44.575 I have complained about, you know, they learn the lesson, 1:01:44.655 --> 1:01:45.015 I hope. 1:01:45.215 --> 1:01:50.375 Yeah, good good. I really appreciate you phoning through all 1:01:50.415 --> 1:01:52.575 the very best you headly take care by I think 1:01:53.295 --> 1:01:57.855 so hopefully that was reasonably clear. So there's COCs, which 1:01:57.935 --> 1:02:02.775 is a certificate of compliance with relation to electrical work, 1:02:03.095 --> 1:02:07.575 and then there's an electrical Safety Certificate as well, and 1:02:07.695 --> 1:02:10.135 there in some cases they're the same thing, but they're 1:02:10.175 --> 1:02:13.855 also separate things, and one might be issued with the 1:02:13.975 --> 1:02:17.895 other or issued separately. And then the point about the 1:02:18.375 --> 1:02:21.615 requirement to have an electrical inspector. Typically, if you think 1:02:21.655 --> 1:02:24.615 about like if you're changing the distribution board at home, 1:02:24.695 --> 1:02:27.095 maybe you've got an old board. You're doing some renovations 1:02:27.215 --> 1:02:29.815 or some extensions, and as part of that work you 1:02:29.975 --> 1:02:34.055 end up taking out the old board. It might still 1:02:34.095 --> 1:02:35.975 have fuse wires in it, you know, and I've been 1:02:36.015 --> 1:02:38.975 in plenty of houses where the old board is still there. 1:02:39.055 --> 1:02:41.815 Let's say you're upgrading the board, which also means that 1:02:41.855 --> 1:02:43.975 you've got a new connection to the mains because you'll 1:02:44.015 --> 1:02:46.135 have to disconnect the mains while the board comes out. 1:02:46.615 --> 1:02:50.895 That work then typically is the inspected by an electrical 1:02:50.975 --> 1:02:54.735 inspector who is not the electrician who has done the work. 1:02:54.855 --> 1:02:58.095 So there's those checks and balances in the system as well. Oh, 1:02:58.175 --> 1:03:00.575 eight hundred and eighty ten eighty we're talking all things 1:03:00.655 --> 1:03:04.455 building construction, and you know, happy to talk about sort 1:03:04.495 --> 1:03:07.855 of other parts of the building world, let's say, in 1:03:07.975 --> 1:03:10.135 terms of electrical and plumbing and that sort of thing. 1:03:10.415 --> 1:03:14.375 But fully accepting the fact that I'm not a registered electrician, 1:03:16.295 --> 1:03:19.175 but I guess as part of the project management of 1:03:19.215 --> 1:03:21.775 a job, typically you end up being engaged with all 1:03:21.815 --> 1:03:24.975 of these other trades as well to get the job done. 1:03:25.255 --> 1:03:27.375 I W eight hundred eighty ten eighty the number to call. 1:03:27.375 --> 1:03:29.175 We've got a spare line for the first time this morning, 1:03:29.215 --> 1:03:31.215 So if you've got a question, call us right now. 1:03:31.335 --> 1:03:32.895 I eight hundred eighty ten. 1:03:32.815 --> 1:03:37.295 Eighty helping you get those DIY projects done. 1:03:37.495 --> 1:03:37.695 Right. 1:03:37.935 --> 1:03:41.615 The resident builder with Peter Wolfcap and Light four Solar 1:03:41.895 --> 1:03:46.535 offering affordable solar solutions used TALKSB a couple. 1:03:46.295 --> 1:03:49.535 Of quick texts before we talk to Chris Electricians. We 1:03:49.735 --> 1:03:52.815 are not permitted to withhold a COC because the bill 1:03:52.935 --> 1:03:56.935 has not been paid. We're obliged to issue it on completion. 1:03:57.135 --> 1:04:00.895 That's from Howard. I think, thank you very much for that, Howard. 1:04:01.615 --> 1:04:06.135 And it's true for LBPS as well. So you know 1:04:06.575 --> 1:04:11.215 I'm a carpentry LBP, right, so if I do restricted 1:04:11.375 --> 1:04:14.935 building work, the requirement is that I issue a record 1:04:14.975 --> 1:04:17.935 of works or a memorandum to describe the work and 1:04:18.215 --> 1:04:22.255 to state that it complies with the building code. And 1:04:22.615 --> 1:04:24.815 I must do that as soon as I finish the work. 1:04:26.175 --> 1:04:30.935 And I can't withhold it, let's say, because I'm worried 1:04:30.975 --> 1:04:33.495 that I won't get paid by the client. So when 1:04:33.535 --> 1:04:37.175 the work is done, you're expected to issue the either 1:04:37.255 --> 1:04:39.695 record of work, all those sorts of things, you can't 1:04:39.735 --> 1:04:42.535 withhold it. I do know one instance where a guy, 1:04:44.135 --> 1:04:48.175 it was building related work, it was LBP, he was 1:04:48.215 --> 1:04:50.415 an LBP. He needed to assue a record of work. 1:04:51.015 --> 1:04:54.055 He had a sense that the client was not going 1:04:54.135 --> 1:04:58.495 to pay the final invoice, right, so there'd been some changes, 1:04:58.535 --> 1:05:00.975 there are a few extras, And he did the work 1:05:01.775 --> 1:05:04.855 and said I'll give you the record of work when 1:05:05.135 --> 1:05:08.295 I've been paid, didn't get paid, refused to issue the 1:05:08.375 --> 1:05:13.655 record of work. The client took him to the disciplinary board, 1:05:14.135 --> 1:05:18.175 and the disciplinary board find him two thousand dollars. The 1:05:18.255 --> 1:05:20.375 irony of that is the final invoice was about two 1:05:20.415 --> 1:05:24.575 thousand dollars as well. So yeah, it might seem unfair, 1:05:24.615 --> 1:05:26.815 but the reality is, if you're an LVP or in 1:05:26.855 --> 1:05:30.535 this case electricians and so on and you're expected to 1:05:30.815 --> 1:05:36.375 issue documentation about compliance of your work. You must, regardless 1:05:36.375 --> 1:05:39.775 of whether or not you've been paid. Quick text as well, 1:05:40.215 --> 1:05:42.175 what are the rules for older houses in Auckland having 1:05:42.215 --> 1:05:44.695 insulation and double glazing? I'm a tenant and the house 1:05:44.815 --> 1:05:50.255 is cold, Okay, Well, in a nutshell, your landlord should 1:05:50.575 --> 1:05:53.535 there should have been when you signed your residential tendency 1:05:53.615 --> 1:05:59.255 agreement a healthy home certificate attached to that, and to 1:05:59.415 --> 1:06:01.495 rent out a property now you have to comply with 1:06:01.655 --> 1:06:05.135 healthy homes requirements in terms of insulation, that is that 1:06:05.255 --> 1:06:09.255 there needs to be insula in accessible ceiling and subfloor spaces. 1:06:10.535 --> 1:06:10.895 That's it. 1:06:11.935 --> 1:06:14.215 So if, for example, it's a skillion roof and you 1:06:14.255 --> 1:06:18.215 can't get into it, then there's no requirement to add 1:06:18.375 --> 1:06:22.135 insulation there. If it's not there already, if it's inaccessible 1:06:22.175 --> 1:06:24.615 subfloor space or a concrete slab, you can't do anything 1:06:24.655 --> 1:06:29.335 about that. Double glazing is not required. Draft proofing reasonable 1:06:29.415 --> 1:06:34.015 draft proofing is a fixed form of heating, is a requirement, 1:06:34.495 --> 1:06:36.575 so I think Sarah, for you, the first thing to 1:06:36.655 --> 1:06:38.655 do is to go back and check that when you 1:06:38.815 --> 1:06:41.855 signed your residential tendency agreement that it did have a 1:06:41.975 --> 1:06:45.375 healthy home certificate attached to it. If it didn't, I'd 1:06:45.415 --> 1:06:47.735 either be talking to the property manager or to the 1:06:48.095 --> 1:06:53.335 landlord about why that wasn't available. And then I guess 1:06:53.375 --> 1:06:56.575 you could also look whether or not that healthy home 1:06:56.655 --> 1:06:59.935 standard is in fact correct or has it simply been 1:06:59.975 --> 1:07:02.935 issued by someone who's kind of incohoots with a property 1:07:02.975 --> 1:07:08.415 manager or the landlord to issue a false statement. It's unlikely, 1:07:08.535 --> 1:07:12.215 but it's possible. Interesting to note too, just briefly, that 1:07:12.455 --> 1:07:16.655 government decided not to go ahead with proposed legislation to 1:07:16.895 --> 1:07:21.415 register property managers. So they've been quite a lot of 1:07:21.495 --> 1:07:28.775 work done by previous administration to introduce a basically a 1:07:28.935 --> 1:07:33.975 qualification regime and a registration of property managers. Because right 1:07:34.095 --> 1:07:38.815 now anyone can start up business as a property manager, 1:07:39.615 --> 1:07:42.855 and while there are guidelines, there's no requirement to actually 1:07:46.615 --> 1:07:51.935 stand by those guidelines, right but National and their wisdom 1:07:51.975 --> 1:07:53.535 have said, no, we're not going to go ahead with that. 1:07:56.935 --> 1:07:59.375 Interesting to your get your thoughts on that. Actually, oh 1:07:59.415 --> 1:08:02.015 eight hundred eighty ten eighty the number to call Chris, Hello. 1:08:01.935 --> 1:08:08.615 There, got a query. But problem Actually we've got with 1:08:08.735 --> 1:08:13.815 a retaining wall. It's found the back of the house 1:08:14.615 --> 1:08:18.815 and it's supportable section so it drops away from the house. 1:08:20.775 --> 1:08:25.055 Reasonable size, I'm not sure six or seven meters high? 1:08:26.455 --> 1:08:28.935 Sorry, just I want to be absolutely clear. The retaining 1:08:28.975 --> 1:08:33.175 wall is six or seven meters high, yes, yeah. 1:08:34.055 --> 1:08:44.535 Quite quite tall, it's yeah. And it's made out of wooden, 1:08:45.215 --> 1:08:51.655 you know, it's like wooden crimp. Yes, not concrete, surprise that. 1:08:53.575 --> 1:08:58.535 And it's got a bow in it. It's got running 1:08:58.815 --> 1:09:05.135 running through it, the storm water and sewerage, and it's 1:09:05.175 --> 1:09:08.535 also got an easy on the property coming over some 1:09:08.655 --> 1:09:12.575 perendicular to the road, down through the property and then 1:09:12.655 --> 1:09:19.015 along along the retainable ametha back end from the retaining wall, 1:09:19.335 --> 1:09:23.095 but buried there's a council. 1:09:24.215 --> 1:09:24.455 Water. 1:09:24.895 --> 1:09:27.655 There's water running through there up on the street. There's 1:09:27.775 --> 1:09:32.455 pity of water running parallel to the road, but there's 1:09:32.455 --> 1:09:36.015 an easement and running off the road and through their property. 1:09:36.015 --> 1:09:40.375 There's also water which runs down to other properties. 1:09:40.415 --> 1:09:43.815 I presume when you say water running is the storm 1:09:43.895 --> 1:09:46.575 water or is the main supply? 1:09:47.735 --> 1:09:54.255 Main supply is blue wine, blue line. The council don't 1:09:54.255 --> 1:10:01.575 want to know anything about the bulge, and so we're 1:10:01.575 --> 1:10:04.575 still sort of working through that. I suppose. My first 1:10:04.655 --> 1:10:11.335 question is about remedying whether a remedy for it is 1:10:11.975 --> 1:10:14.895 to sort of another retaining wall in front of what's 1:10:14.935 --> 1:10:19.815 already there, or is the best practice to take out 1:10:20.015 --> 1:10:23.295 the wall and replace the war. 1:10:25.615 --> 1:10:30.135 Yeah, I would imagine that. The one of the questions 1:10:30.215 --> 1:10:34.855 then would be is there sufficient space, let's say, downhill 1:10:34.935 --> 1:10:38.375 from the existing wall, to build a new retaining wall 1:10:38.495 --> 1:10:40.135 that would still be on your property. 1:10:43.415 --> 1:10:47.415 I'm not exactly sure the boundary I would probably imagine not, 1:10:47.895 --> 1:10:51.135 but the land below us is council land. 1:10:52.495 --> 1:10:54.695 Yeah, but you still you can't build on their land, 1:10:57.455 --> 1:11:00.735 I would have thought without either express permission from them, 1:11:01.815 --> 1:11:03.495 in which case then you would have to get an 1:11:03.535 --> 1:11:07.655 easement on their title for their land. And you can 1:11:07.695 --> 1:11:10.815 imagine that's not going to happen. So in terms of 1:11:11.295 --> 1:11:15.615 practical solutions for remediating that, because you know, given the 1:11:15.695 --> 1:11:20.975 height of it, and it's bulging, right, and it wasn't 1:11:21.015 --> 1:11:23.295 designed to bulge, So if it was straight once and 1:11:23.375 --> 1:11:25.415 it's bent now, that's not a good sign with a 1:11:25.455 --> 1:11:30.335 six meter high retaining wall. The engineering involved in that 1:11:30.615 --> 1:11:36.255 because obviously the land that it's supporting, right, so the 1:11:36.375 --> 1:11:39.615 land behind the retaining wall, is any of that supporting 1:11:39.735 --> 1:11:40.655 the house that you're in. 1:11:42.455 --> 1:11:46.655 The house is about I think it's about eight meters. 1:11:46.415 --> 1:11:47.815 Back, so it is. 1:11:48.975 --> 1:11:51.895 Yeah, okay, so it's getting close. I mean typically a 1:11:52.015 --> 1:11:54.455 line of inference would be at forty five degrees from 1:11:54.455 --> 1:11:56.095 the base of the wall, right, So I at six 1:11:56.215 --> 1:11:59.295 meters high, you go back six meters, that's about forty 1:11:59.335 --> 1:12:02.255 five degrees. You know, anything on top of that in 1:12:02.375 --> 1:12:05.975 that area and that triangle would be loading up on 1:12:06.055 --> 1:12:08.695 the wall. So your house is set back slightly more 1:12:08.735 --> 1:12:11.375 than that. But again I think any engineer looking at 1:12:11.415 --> 1:12:14.255 it would say, well, actually, that retaining wall, should it fail, 1:12:15.015 --> 1:12:19.455 is likely to undermine your house, in which case the 1:12:19.575 --> 1:12:25.775 engineering of that wall would be extensive, right, And if 1:12:25.815 --> 1:12:29.895 it's on your property, my understanding is it is your responsibility. 1:12:31.215 --> 1:12:37.335 It's a fairly significant wall. Getting an engineer, most of 1:12:37.415 --> 1:12:40.455 whom are risk averse, they will design something for you 1:12:41.135 --> 1:12:47.735 that will rival the Hoover Dam in its scale, and 1:12:48.295 --> 1:12:50.695 the number of zeros at the end of that project 1:12:51.095 --> 1:12:58.295 could be quite extensive. So I can understand in this 1:12:58.455 --> 1:13:02.415 instance why perhaps counsel are saying it's not our responsibility. 1:13:02.455 --> 1:13:05.015 And given it's not on their land, it might be 1:13:05.095 --> 1:13:07.935 interesting to talk to a lot about you know, if 1:13:07.975 --> 1:13:11.135 there's an easement, right, and other people have the benefit 1:13:11.575 --> 1:13:16.095 of the passageway through your property for their services. Whether 1:13:16.175 --> 1:13:19.095 you could then go back and ask them to contribute 1:13:19.655 --> 1:13:22.495 because obviously if the retaining wall fails, it will it 1:13:22.535 --> 1:13:25.055 will damage all of those services, right, which means it 1:13:25.135 --> 1:13:27.535 has an impact on a neighbor. So if a neighbor 1:13:27.855 --> 1:13:30.855 has the benefit of an easement, then maybe they could 1:13:30.935 --> 1:13:35.615 contribute something to the cost of it. Look, I guess 1:13:35.735 --> 1:13:39.735 a planner then a geotechnical engineer is probably going to 1:13:39.775 --> 1:13:43.095 be a next steps in terms of remediation. But it's 1:13:43.175 --> 1:13:47.455 going that's that's a big wall and it's going to 1:13:47.535 --> 1:13:50.415 be a lot of work, and trust me, it'll be 1:13:50.455 --> 1:13:51.135 a lot of money. 1:13:52.255 --> 1:13:56.095 Right, Yes, okay, you know. 1:13:56.855 --> 1:14:00.455 Could could you go to your insurer and say my 1:14:00.575 --> 1:14:03.335 retaining wall has collapsed or is endangered? 1:14:04.535 --> 1:14:08.455 Yeah, we are. We are talking with them, just trying 1:14:08.535 --> 1:14:12.535 to find out and really the counselor's involvement as well, 1:14:14.135 --> 1:14:18.055 because we were there all the time that an initial 1:14:18.295 --> 1:14:22.935 neighbor said that the section wasn't planned for our house. 1:14:23.055 --> 1:14:28.815 It was originally for the counsel to have this access 1:14:28.895 --> 1:14:37.095 going through, and then later in the development the developers 1:14:37.135 --> 1:14:39.015 are presumed. I not quite. You can't quite get the 1:14:39.535 --> 1:14:44.175 right decided that for the section there as well, And 1:14:46.575 --> 1:14:50.655 so yeah, I'm trying. 1:14:52.215 --> 1:14:54.975 I wonder whether some of this, Yeah, is also going 1:14:55.055 --> 1:14:58.775 to be like an experienced property lawyer to act on 1:14:58.895 --> 1:15:01.975 your behalf, because I think if I would say that, 1:15:02.095 --> 1:15:05.575 if it seems to me that if counsel are deriving 1:15:05.695 --> 1:15:08.775 some benefit it right from the easement, they should then 1:15:08.895 --> 1:15:12.575 contribute to the cost of it, or you could use 1:15:12.655 --> 1:15:16.655 that as leverage, that would change things. Because the fact 1:15:16.695 --> 1:15:20.695 that there's an easement to provide services, so that's a 1:15:20.735 --> 1:15:23.095 benefit to someone else. I think you could use that 1:15:23.255 --> 1:15:27.815 to get a contribution from someone else. But it's I 1:15:27.895 --> 1:15:31.815 can imagine this is going to be a very involved process, 1:15:33.455 --> 1:15:36.735 and that's to try and understand who might be responsible, 1:15:37.015 --> 1:15:39.615 who could contribute, And then once you get into the 1:15:39.695 --> 1:15:43.775 actual engineering of it again, you know it's going to 1:15:43.775 --> 1:15:46.415 be a fairly significant wall that's going to go in 1:15:46.535 --> 1:15:49.375 there to replace it, and what's access like. 1:15:51.615 --> 1:15:54.855 Access from the bottom will be fine, Okay, well, so 1:15:54.935 --> 1:15:59.095 long accounts and yes, and we can come around the 1:15:59.175 --> 1:16:01.615 sign in the honds to work from the top. Yeah, 1:16:04.015 --> 1:16:07.175 but it should probably not should probably. 1:16:07.975 --> 1:16:12.295 Okay, hey, look, there's a lot to try and dig 1:16:12.375 --> 1:16:15.975 through now, but pardon the punt, but yeah, good luck. 1:16:15.855 --> 1:16:16.175 With it all. 1:16:17.215 --> 1:16:19.535 And you suggested what was a property is lawyer? 1:16:20.655 --> 1:16:20.695 What? 1:16:21.535 --> 1:16:23.855 I guess it would be really good to have someone 1:16:23.895 --> 1:16:26.095 else look at the situation from a legal point of 1:16:26.175 --> 1:16:31.575 view to give you, especially because of the easement that's involved. Right, 1:16:32.135 --> 1:16:36.975 So for someone to review your property file, to look 1:16:37.055 --> 1:16:41.455 at the terms of the easement and to explain to 1:16:41.575 --> 1:16:45.855 you what whether or not there's any other someone else 1:16:45.935 --> 1:16:48.255 might have some liability for this as well, that's what 1:16:48.335 --> 1:16:51.015 you're looking for. And then if they do, could you 1:16:51.175 --> 1:16:53.775 then draw them in in terms of contributing to the 1:16:53.815 --> 1:16:54.695 cost of the repair. 1:16:55.855 --> 1:16:56.015 Right. 1:16:57.255 --> 1:16:59.415 I did go to the counselor to get the file 1:17:00.015 --> 1:17:04.535 or applied for our property and that seemed to be 1:17:04.615 --> 1:17:08.575 a bit difficult. So that star for the neighboring property 1:17:08.655 --> 1:17:12.175 because they've got the same right, they share the same war. 1:17:12.335 --> 1:17:15.735 I was going to ask that actually, but they don't 1:17:15.815 --> 1:17:16.375 have them. 1:17:16.535 --> 1:17:19.695 They don't have the easement issue. But I'm just trying 1:17:19.695 --> 1:17:22.935 to find a bit of history about yeah, how the 1:17:23.015 --> 1:17:26.135 wall got built because it awarded crid wall to me 1:17:26.295 --> 1:17:27.015 seems a read it. 1:17:28.775 --> 1:17:31.495 Well but again, you know, back in the day, it 1:17:31.615 --> 1:17:34.775 might be thirty forty years ago. I do remember seeing 1:17:34.895 --> 1:17:40.215 them being built, and perhaps today they wouldn't get approval, 1:17:40.615 --> 1:17:43.015 but I suspect that at that time it would have 1:17:43.055 --> 1:17:45.375 got approval. And then what would be interesting too, is 1:17:45.775 --> 1:17:47.975 if it did get approval and it had let's say 1:17:48.295 --> 1:17:51.855 a maximum a minimum life span. Let's say there was 1:17:51.895 --> 1:17:55.815 a building consent issued for that work and the expectation 1:17:56.015 --> 1:17:59.095 is that it would be it would have a lifespan 1:17:59.215 --> 1:18:02.015 of twenty years. Then you're probably outside of that. Let's 1:18:02.015 --> 1:18:03.935 say it had a lifespan of fifty years. Then you 1:18:04.015 --> 1:18:09.295 could go, well, actually might then they've issued the consent, 1:18:09.495 --> 1:18:11.455 they've said that it's going to last fifty years, they've 1:18:11.495 --> 1:18:14.775 accepted it. If it all got signed off and now 1:18:14.855 --> 1:18:17.735 it has failed within that time period, again, could you 1:18:17.815 --> 1:18:19.895 get them to have a you know, could you get 1:18:19.975 --> 1:18:22.895 them to contribute all of which is legal? Right, So 1:18:23.175 --> 1:18:25.415 I think the next step is probably going to be 1:18:26.015 --> 1:18:29.895 spend a bit of money with the lawyer. Yeah, good luck, 1:18:29.975 --> 1:18:32.855 christ all the very best. You take care and let 1:18:32.935 --> 1:18:34.375 us know how you get on. I'll give you an 1:18:34.455 --> 1:18:37.615 update on our last week's retaining will story straight after 1:18:37.655 --> 1:18:38.175 the break. 1:18:38.575 --> 1:18:42.575 Measured twice, God once, but maybe call Peid first. 1:18:42.735 --> 1:18:46.535 Peter Wolfgav the resident builder with Light four Solar now 1:18:46.615 --> 1:18:48.975 offering a free battery upgrade seas in seed the. 1:18:48.975 --> 1:18:51.015 Playing us dogs. I'll tell you what. 1:18:51.055 --> 1:18:53.015 I'll give you an update on the retaining will story 1:18:53.135 --> 1:18:56.055 after the news that. We'll talk to Tracy first. Hello, Tracy. 1:18:57.015 --> 1:19:00.535 Yeah, I'm just curious. 1:19:01.935 --> 1:19:06.295 When tig Or was given the opportunity they got given extra. 1:19:06.135 --> 1:19:10.655 Time to do their healthy owns plants yeap. 1:19:10.575 --> 1:19:14.855 Healthy climate, Yes, with all apply to providers that they 1:19:15.055 --> 1:19:19.895 sold properties do to back in twenty sixteen, seventeen? 1:19:22.455 --> 1:19:24.895 No Ah, Oh, that's a very good question. So what 1:19:24.935 --> 1:19:26.855 you're saying is, let's say there's an old kayn or 1:19:26.975 --> 1:19:30.455 a house it's been sold to not a private individual, 1:19:30.535 --> 1:19:35.335 but a community housing network type group. Do they also 1:19:35.495 --> 1:19:43.615 get that extension? I suspect that they probably do, but 1:19:43.975 --> 1:19:47.655 that extension is rapidly running out. I think we're talking 1:19:47.735 --> 1:19:49.335 twenty twenty five, isn't it. 1:19:50.575 --> 1:19:55.655 Yeah, well there's where I'm talking. We're talking twelve houses, yep, 1:19:55.935 --> 1:20:01.535 just in complete that basically the original leaky homes they 1:20:01.575 --> 1:20:05.815 were built in eighty six, so before anyone started building 1:20:05.895 --> 1:20:13.695 with the chains hardy product. These houses built as press tapes, yep. 1:20:13.975 --> 1:20:19.775 So it's pretty sad that they're still standing, Right's shocking 1:20:20.295 --> 1:20:23.295 the abs that you're rotten, you know. And I believe 1:20:23.375 --> 1:20:26.295 they won't pull them down because the second they take 1:20:26.375 --> 1:20:29.615 the cletting off that everyone's going to see what's behind. 1:20:30.535 --> 1:20:32.855 And that's quite and maybe what they'll do is they'll 1:20:32.935 --> 1:20:36.135 just say, well, look, we're just going to keep letting 1:20:36.215 --> 1:20:38.535 them because we don't have to comply with the healthy 1:20:38.615 --> 1:20:41.415 home standard until the day that we do, at which 1:20:41.495 --> 1:20:44.535 case we'll probably evict people and pull the houses down, 1:20:46.775 --> 1:20:49.455 which is not ideal. But you know, we're also in 1:20:49.535 --> 1:20:53.175 that space where there's a tension between you know, do 1:20:53.255 --> 1:20:55.815 we set a set of standards that exclude people from 1:20:55.895 --> 1:20:58.415 housing even if it's poor housing, given that we have 1:20:58.535 --> 1:21:03.015 such a huge demand for social housing, right so, you know, 1:21:03.815 --> 1:21:06.335 would you rather sleep in a car or sleep in 1:21:06.375 --> 1:21:09.175 the house that's not compliant? Probably want to be in 1:21:09.215 --> 1:21:12.295 a house that's not compliant, even if it's it's. 1:21:12.135 --> 1:21:15.455 Still you know, long term illnesses. 1:21:15.615 --> 1:21:18.495 Not I'm not ignoring that. I'm not ignoring that, but 1:21:19.535 --> 1:21:21.415 you know, I'm just raising that as an issue. I 1:21:21.495 --> 1:21:24.135 think there are some that would that would argue that, hey, look, 1:21:25.215 --> 1:21:28.495 you know, setting up a whole series of regulations around 1:21:28.535 --> 1:21:31.855 housing at the time of a housing crisis might not 1:21:31.975 --> 1:21:33.695 have been the best way to ensure that people have 1:21:33.775 --> 1:21:35.975 at least got somewhere to live, even if it's not great. 1:21:36.015 --> 1:21:39.095 And I'm a huge supporter of good housing for people. Right, 1:21:39.175 --> 1:21:42.455 I'm just being practical as well. Appreciate the comics, Tracy. Right, 1:21:42.575 --> 1:21:44.415 We'll give you an update on the retaining wall straight 1:21:44.455 --> 1:21:47.295 afternoons Sport and weather at eight and remember we're into 1:21:47.335 --> 1:21:49.975 the garden with a red cling past from eight point 1:21:49.975 --> 1:21:51.215 thirty this morning as well. 1:21:56.615 --> 1:21:58.295 Doing other house sorting the garden. 1:21:58.415 --> 1:22:01.935 Asked Pete for ahead the resident builder with Peter Wolfcamp 1:22:02.015 --> 1:22:05.775 and Light four Solar offering affordable solar solutions. 1:22:07.935 --> 1:22:11.015 Be welcome back to the program. Eight hundred and eighty 1:22:11.095 --> 1:22:14.255 ten eighty is the number to call an update on 1:22:14.375 --> 1:22:18.495 a story that we talked about, or a caller last 1:22:18.535 --> 1:22:21.575 week to the program around this time. Actually, Arian who 1:22:22.375 --> 1:22:26.295 lives in Auckland, I think on the north Shore, rang 1:22:26.375 --> 1:22:29.135 and said, look, I've got a retaining wall that's on 1:22:29.255 --> 1:22:32.575 the boundary. It's on my side of the boundary and 1:22:32.695 --> 1:22:39.495 it's collapsing and it borders a council reserve, and so 1:22:39.615 --> 1:22:43.655 I've gone to council to say, hey, look the wall's collapsing, 1:22:44.855 --> 1:22:46.735 you know, can you help out and they've said no, 1:22:47.015 --> 1:22:49.415 not our responsibility. It's on your side of the boundary. 1:22:49.455 --> 1:22:51.895 And to be fair, that was listening to the story 1:22:52.015 --> 1:22:55.135 last week, that's exactly what I thought would be the 1:22:55.335 --> 1:22:58.255 likely outcome. If it's on your side of the boundary, 1:22:58.695 --> 1:23:03.455 it's your wall, you as the homeowner, are responsible for it. However, 1:23:03.575 --> 1:23:05.815 these things are never as simple as they seem, and 1:23:06.615 --> 1:23:10.255 a mate who at the stage will just remain nameless, 1:23:10.855 --> 1:23:13.815 who's very experienced in this area, contacted me, flipped me 1:23:13.855 --> 1:23:16.615 a text while we were talking and said, hey, I 1:23:16.695 --> 1:23:18.175 could go and have a look at that. I've got 1:23:18.215 --> 1:23:21.695 some experience in this field. And he did, and I 1:23:22.215 --> 1:23:24.855 got an email from Rianne saying thank you very much. 1:23:24.935 --> 1:23:29.095 He was very helpful, very knowledgeable, very experienced. And there 1:23:29.215 --> 1:23:32.495 is more to the story, as in the reason that 1:23:32.575 --> 1:23:35.055 the retaining wall is collapsing is because the land, the 1:23:35.175 --> 1:23:41.455 council land is collapsing, is falling away, is eroding, and 1:23:41.615 --> 1:23:47.695 that's undermined the retaining wall of the private property, let's say, so, 1:23:47.815 --> 1:23:49.895 I think there's going to be a little bit more 1:23:49.935 --> 1:23:53.335 to the story over the next couple of months, and 1:23:53.775 --> 1:23:56.615 a geotech engineer is going to go out and investigate 1:23:56.655 --> 1:23:58.135 it as well. So if I get an update, I 1:23:58.135 --> 1:24:00.095 will let you know. Now, just prior to the news 1:24:00.135 --> 1:24:03.175 we were talking with Tracy, she mentioned ko or or 1:24:04.055 --> 1:24:09.135 houses and whether or not. So when Healthy Homes legislation 1:24:09.295 --> 1:24:13.015 came in, which was about twenty seventeen, and houses need 1:24:13.135 --> 1:24:16.455 to be compliant from about twenty nineteen, then I guess, 1:24:16.495 --> 1:24:18.735 with a whole lot of reasons for delay, some of 1:24:18.815 --> 1:24:22.135 those deadlines were pushed out, but most private landlords by 1:24:22.255 --> 1:24:25.855 now would need to be compliant with the new healthy 1:24:25.975 --> 1:24:31.375 Homes standards. So that's around extraction, around insulation, fixed form 1:24:31.455 --> 1:24:33.655 of heating, vapor b areas, et cetera, et cetera, all 1:24:33.695 --> 1:24:37.015 of the regulations that we've become reasonably familiar with now. 1:24:39.255 --> 1:24:45.575 So but interestingly enough, the government's own housing provider, being 1:24:46.015 --> 1:24:50.175 kol kind of order, they had an extension to those 1:24:50.255 --> 1:24:52.375 deadlines so they didn't have to do the same sort 1:24:52.415 --> 1:24:57.215 of work as a private landlord would have to do. Interesting, 1:24:57.335 --> 1:24:59.895 I just thought, I'll see where we're at because my 1:25:00.015 --> 1:25:03.095 understanding was, Okay, they've got slightly longer to do the work, 1:25:03.775 --> 1:25:07.135 but it's actually not that much longer. So I'm looking 1:25:07.175 --> 1:25:11.615 at A press release from November twenty twenty two updates 1:25:11.695 --> 1:25:15.015 to the Healthy Home Standards compliance dates taking effect from 1:25:15.055 --> 1:25:18.015 the twenty sixth of November twenty twenty two. The Government 1:25:18.055 --> 1:25:20.615 has extended the time frame to comply with the Healthy 1:25:20.695 --> 1:25:24.455 Home Standards for private landslords for coming order and for 1:25:24.615 --> 1:25:27.895 community housing providers who have not yet been required to 1:25:27.975 --> 1:25:31.815 comply under the Healthy Home Standards. So all private rentals 1:25:31.975 --> 1:25:34.535 must comply with the Healthy Home Standards within one hundred 1:25:34.535 --> 1:25:37.575 and twenty days of any new or renewed tenancy, with 1:25:37.775 --> 1:25:42.455 all private rentals complying by the first of July twenty 1:25:42.535 --> 1:25:44.775 twenty five. Now, the reason that it's first of July 1:25:44.935 --> 1:25:48.095 twenty twenty five is, let's say you have an existing tenant. 1:25:49.055 --> 1:25:52.375 You haven't renewed the tenancy because they've gone from fixed 1:25:52.455 --> 1:25:55.135 term to periodical or whatever it is. So you might 1:25:55.215 --> 1:25:56.775 have a tenant who's been in the house for five 1:25:56.895 --> 1:25:58.935 years and who plans to stay for another five years. 1:25:59.015 --> 1:26:01.615 So as a private landlord, you haven't actually had to 1:26:01.695 --> 1:26:05.415 comply with the regulations because nobody's moved out. Short answer, 1:26:05.695 --> 1:26:07.655 but you will have to comply by the first of 1:26:07.775 --> 1:26:10.935 July twenty twenty five, regardless of the nature of the 1:26:11.015 --> 1:26:15.175 tenancy or the agreement. Second part of that, all houses 1:26:15.215 --> 1:26:18.455 rented by a congora formerly Housing New Zealand and registered 1:26:18.535 --> 1:26:23.655 community housing providers must comply by the first of July 1:26:23.815 --> 1:26:28.215 twenty twenty four, end of the month beginning of next month. 1:26:28.775 --> 1:26:31.415 That's going to be really interesting to see. All boarding 1:26:31.455 --> 1:26:34.655 houses must already comply with the Healthy Home standards as 1:26:34.735 --> 1:26:39.335 of the first of July twenty twenty one. And then 1:26:39.375 --> 1:26:42.535 there's some useful tools to have a look at. And 1:26:42.575 --> 1:26:44.735 all of this is from the Tenancy dot gov dot 1:26:44.975 --> 1:26:52.295 NZ website. That's that deadline first of July twenty twenty 1:26:52.335 --> 1:26:55.575 four for all KO houses. That's going to be really 1:26:55.615 --> 1:26:57.655 interesting to see how that works out in the next 1:26:57.855 --> 1:27:02.695 what fifteen days before the or less until the first 1:27:02.735 --> 1:27:06.215 of July. Certainly for private landlords if you're doing it 1:27:06.375 --> 1:27:09.295 new tenancy, new tenancy agreement's got to be in there. Oh, 1:27:09.335 --> 1:27:11.695 eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call. 1:27:12.055 --> 1:27:14.895 What was the other quick text that came through? Good morning, 1:27:15.015 --> 1:27:17.455 Do you need a building consent to fully replace an 1:27:17.535 --> 1:27:22.975 old tile roof with a tinroof from Craig, Yes, would 1:27:23.015 --> 1:27:26.295 be my answer. And part of that is I worked 1:27:26.335 --> 1:27:29.175 my way through during the break through what I find 1:27:29.295 --> 1:27:34.335 actually is a very useful government website, so it's tied 1:27:34.375 --> 1:27:36.815 in with it, you know, building dot gov dot enz. 1:27:37.655 --> 1:27:40.775 If you are ever unsure about what work requires a 1:27:40.815 --> 1:27:45.255 building consent and what doesn't, go to canibuild it dot 1:27:45.375 --> 1:27:48.935 gov dot enz. So can I build it all one 1:27:49.015 --> 1:27:52.655 word effectively all lower case dot gov dot nz And 1:27:52.815 --> 1:27:55.175 in fact, I'll put that a link to that up 1:27:55.255 --> 1:27:58.815 on my Facebook page this morning, so if you go 1:27:58.895 --> 1:28:01.415 to resident builder you'll find the link there. I find it. 1:28:01.655 --> 1:28:03.935 I mean, it's not one hundred percent like you may 1:28:03.975 --> 1:28:05.895 not get all of the answers, but it will give 1:28:05.935 --> 1:28:09.055 you an indication of whether or not you require a 1:28:09.095 --> 1:28:11.775 building consent for certain types of work. So I worked 1:28:11.815 --> 1:28:14.975 my way through that with that question do I need 1:28:15.095 --> 1:28:17.695 a building consent to fully replace an old tile roof? 1:28:18.375 --> 1:28:21.735 And it said yes. And the reason for it being 1:28:22.135 --> 1:28:24.935 is that if you are planning a substantial or complete 1:28:25.015 --> 1:28:28.295 replacement of any component or assembly that contributes to the 1:28:28.375 --> 1:28:34.255 building's structural behavior, or fire safety. So swapping a heavy 1:28:34.335 --> 1:28:36.895 roof to a light roof has an impact on uplift 1:28:37.215 --> 1:28:40.335 and that might then trigger a requirement for a building consent. 1:28:40.615 --> 1:28:42.815 But either way, on my Facebook page, I will put 1:28:42.895 --> 1:28:46.815 up a link to that site. This morning, Oh eight 1:28:46.935 --> 1:28:48.855 hundred eighty ten eighty is then number to call goes 1:28:48.895 --> 1:28:52.095 good morning to you. Wait there you go out, augur, 1:28:52.375 --> 1:28:54.335 Please tell me that you're best made? Is Maverick. 1:28:56.895 --> 1:29:00.495 He comes to a sticky geam though, all right, girls, 1:29:00.535 --> 1:29:05.135 what's up? I retains, I'll just listening to your story. Yes, 1:29:05.415 --> 1:29:08.055 on reading a oldest boys looking at buying a house 1:29:08.135 --> 1:29:12.095 over at Wanganui. We went over last week and it 1:29:12.295 --> 1:29:13.735 opened over and had a good look at it. It's 1:29:13.775 --> 1:29:16.695 a beauty or house being Bolton Lne Scene sixteen, but 1:29:16.895 --> 1:29:19.615 one of a retaining wall. On the section that we 1:29:19.735 --> 1:29:23.335 hopefully he does get there's about four foot lower than 1:29:23.415 --> 1:29:26.815 the section beside him, and that's got a concrete drive 1:29:27.455 --> 1:29:30.095 leaning into the retaining wall, and the retaining wall has 1:29:30.135 --> 1:29:32.055 falling over that much as it's sets you leaning up 1:29:32.095 --> 1:29:36.095 against the garage. Then you can see people have tried 1:29:36.135 --> 1:29:38.135 to image it further down along the side of the 1:29:38.175 --> 1:29:42.095 house by putting pillars in it. But that's full of 1:29:42.255 --> 1:29:44.775 black scens like that all the sections of black seeds. 1:29:44.935 --> 1:29:45.135 Yeah. 1:29:47.335 --> 1:29:48.975 Is that because it will be on the boundary. Is 1:29:49.015 --> 1:29:50.415 that a cost of both parties? 1:29:50.775 --> 1:29:50.815 No? 1:29:51.615 --> 1:29:55.575 No, Like my typical rule of thumb is that you 1:29:55.655 --> 1:29:58.735 know if it's if it's on let's say it's on 1:29:59.455 --> 1:30:02.015 your mate who's interested in the property. If it's on 1:30:02.615 --> 1:30:04.855 his side of the boundary or her side of the boundary, 1:30:05.215 --> 1:30:09.175 it'll be their response ability. So it's typically who benefits 1:30:09.215 --> 1:30:12.215 from the retaining wall. So again, if I'm on the 1:30:12.295 --> 1:30:15.215 high side and i want a level back section, I'm 1:30:15.255 --> 1:30:18.375 going to put a retaining wall in inside the boundary 1:30:18.415 --> 1:30:21.775 on my side of the boundary line and then backfill 1:30:21.815 --> 1:30:24.495 it to get a level garden. Then I'm responsible for it. 1:30:24.615 --> 1:30:27.815 Let's say the neighbor goes, actually I need to be 1:30:27.895 --> 1:30:30.255 able to excavate down in order to get my house 1:30:30.375 --> 1:30:33.495 to fit underneath the heightened relation to boundary line. So 1:30:33.575 --> 1:30:36.015 I'm going to put a retaining wall on on my 1:30:36.175 --> 1:30:38.935 side of the boundary and excavate down. Well, then they're 1:30:38.975 --> 1:30:42.535 responsible for it. But it sounds like the one that 1:30:42.615 --> 1:30:47.775 you're interested in is the retaining walls on the property 1:30:48.215 --> 1:30:50.295 that you're interested in or your friend is interested in. 1:30:50.695 --> 1:30:52.855 If it's failing, it'll be your responsibility. 1:30:53.695 --> 1:30:56.695 Oh yeah, it's quite a big one because the cock 1:30:56.895 --> 1:30:59.215 drawing is actually slip and the water's going off the 1:30:59.295 --> 1:31:02.015 drive down into the black scene and it's just pushed 1:31:02.015 --> 1:31:04.255 it all over. But to do the draw properly you 1:31:04.375 --> 1:31:06.175 have to you have to remove part of this joy 1:31:08.255 --> 1:31:10.335 and then input it. But if it's on the boundary 1:31:10.415 --> 1:31:12.255 rights on too, on the boundary pigs and it's half 1:31:12.295 --> 1:31:13.815 each side, that's a different story. 1:31:14.095 --> 1:31:17.375 I don't know that that would Well, hopefully that's not 1:31:17.575 --> 1:31:21.215 the case, right because you know, retaining walls are different 1:31:21.375 --> 1:31:24.615 to fences, right, and it's not uncommon to put a fence. 1:31:25.095 --> 1:31:27.415 You know, you can go, you can agree with your neighbor. 1:31:27.455 --> 1:31:29.455 Here's the boundary, and we're going to put the post 1:31:29.775 --> 1:31:32.815 half on your side, half on my side. Retaining wolves 1:31:32.855 --> 1:31:34.895 are not like that. They shouldn't be built like that. 1:31:35.735 --> 1:31:38.855 Retaining walls should be solely on one property or the other. 1:31:39.935 --> 1:31:41.455 Okay, well, we can find it. 1:31:41.575 --> 1:31:46.335 Probably, well it might not be in the limb. And 1:31:46.975 --> 1:31:51.295 also don't assume, like if there's not an actual legal 1:31:51.495 --> 1:31:55.975 boundary marker there don't listen to anybody, because I've had 1:31:56.015 --> 1:31:58.855 this once before where someone said, oh, hey, the fence 1:31:58.975 --> 1:32:01.815 is on the boundary, and then when we've actually had 1:32:01.855 --> 1:32:05.215 the survey done founded in fact the boundary was a 1:32:05.295 --> 1:32:08.895 meter and a half, they're away. So unless there's a 1:32:08.975 --> 1:32:14.135 legal boundary peg, Yeah, don't don't take anybody's word for it. 1:32:14.935 --> 1:32:17.415 What we can do then, because because he's done the 1:32:17.975 --> 1:32:19.855 cheat the different things, and then when you probably end 1:32:19.935 --> 1:32:23.095 up owning it, which switch it. Well, it's really the 1:32:23.175 --> 1:32:23.575 best way. 1:32:24.215 --> 1:32:26.735 Yeah. Look, if you make wants to buy it, then 1:32:26.815 --> 1:32:29.895 they're going to and the boundary, the retaining wall is 1:32:29.975 --> 1:32:32.375 on their property. They're going to be liable for the repair. 1:32:33.775 --> 1:32:35.815 So as long as he knows that he's got you know, 1:32:36.055 --> 1:32:38.095 tens of thousands of dollars to spend. 1:32:38.495 --> 1:32:41.535 Yeah, that's right, that will refleet the price, or say 1:32:41.575 --> 1:32:42.535 but i'll get morning them. 1:32:42.615 --> 1:32:47.975 Yeah, absolutely, all right, buddy, all the best, take care everybody, 1:32:48.575 --> 1:32:52.055 Ghost fantastic, got to be Maverick's best mate. Oh eight 1:32:52.175 --> 1:32:54.775 hundred and eighty ten eighty is that number to call? 1:32:57.615 --> 1:32:59.615 Here we go. I knew that would start a bit 1:32:59.655 --> 1:33:02.335 of stuff around the tendancy stuff morning Peak. I've got 1:33:02.415 --> 1:33:04.655 two ghost homes that I personally can live in, but 1:33:04.775 --> 1:33:06.575 sadly I'm not allowed to rent out you to the 1:33:06.615 --> 1:33:09.095 Healthy home standard. Not worth fixing it. Sad but true 1:33:14.575 --> 1:33:17.255 because to be blunt, I don't find that the healthy 1:33:17.295 --> 1:33:21.695 home standard is like, it's not a terribly high bar. Right, 1:33:24.055 --> 1:33:30.015 And to be fair, I have I understand that you know, 1:33:30.095 --> 1:33:32.935 if you choose not to upgrade your property to make 1:33:33.015 --> 1:33:36.535 it Healthy Homes compliant, that's completely up to you as 1:33:36.535 --> 1:33:40.815 a landlord and as a property owner. But to be blunt, 1:33:40.855 --> 1:33:43.615 I've got very little time for landlords who complain about 1:33:44.895 --> 1:33:48.175 complying with the Healthy Home standards because it's just not 1:33:48.335 --> 1:33:51.975 that high a bar. And I speak for experience. It 1:33:52.135 --> 1:33:55.055 is eighteen and a half minutes after eight. We'll take 1:33:55.095 --> 1:33:56.495 short break, then we're going to talk to Ash, then 1:33:56.495 --> 1:33:58.095 we're going to talk to Monty, and then we're going 1:33:58.175 --> 1:34:00.895 to jump into the garden with the root climb passed 1:34:00.895 --> 1:34:01.695 from eight thirty. 1:34:01.575 --> 1:34:05.855 This morning, with a painting the ceiling, fixing the van soil, 1:34:05.935 --> 1:34:08.095 wondering how to fix that hole in the wall. You 1:34:08.215 --> 1:34:10.815 give Peter Wolf Cabin call on oh eight hundred eighty 1:34:10.935 --> 1:34:14.295 ten eighty the resident builder with light four Solar now 1:34:14.375 --> 1:34:15.815 offering a free battery upgrade. 1:34:15.815 --> 1:34:16.495 It is in season. 1:34:16.615 --> 1:34:20.415 Lying NEWSTALKSB your news talks B. I've popped up the 1:34:20.495 --> 1:34:23.055 link on my Facebook page that you search for a 1:34:23.095 --> 1:34:25.255 resident builder on Facebook, you'll find it there to that 1:34:25.815 --> 1:34:29.775 can I Build It dot gov dot NZ website which 1:34:29.895 --> 1:34:32.495 helps sort of guide you through kind of a yes no, 1:34:33.015 --> 1:34:35.255 sort of flow chart pattern to figure out whether or 1:34:35.295 --> 1:34:38.215 not you might need a building consent for certain types 1:34:38.255 --> 1:34:40.455 of building work. I found it quite useful, so have 1:34:40.535 --> 1:34:43.055 a look at that. And then I found a picture 1:34:43.095 --> 1:34:45.575 of myself at field Days. I might put that up 1:34:45.575 --> 1:34:47.095 as well. We had a great time at field Days. 1:34:47.175 --> 1:34:49.175 I eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number. Ash 1:34:49.255 --> 1:34:54.495 Good morning, Hello, Ash Hey, good morning, Good morning, sir. 1:34:56.495 --> 1:34:56.695 Hey. 1:34:57.455 --> 1:35:03.615 I wanted to know about subsident. Yes, we've recently discovered 1:35:03.695 --> 1:35:06.815 that one of our properties has got subsident along the 1:35:06.935 --> 1:35:10.695 fence side and it's more kind of on the neighbors 1:35:11.535 --> 1:35:15.175 side that it has got more impact on their site, 1:35:16.215 --> 1:35:18.815 but it does touch our boundary. 1:35:20.615 --> 1:35:24.855 Yes, I'm just wondering is. 1:35:24.855 --> 1:35:27.735 There a way to get this fixed or is there 1:35:27.775 --> 1:35:32.535 a way because neighbors quite elderly person and they're probably 1:35:32.735 --> 1:35:34.455 not interested in doing anything. 1:35:35.615 --> 1:35:39.535 So I mean, these things do get complicated. So broadly speaking, 1:35:39.895 --> 1:35:43.175 there has been some movement of the land on your 1:35:43.335 --> 1:35:48.335 neighbour's property which has then caused slumping or subsidence on 1:35:48.455 --> 1:35:49.095 your property. 1:35:50.375 --> 1:35:54.135 That's correct, And only where I found out is when 1:35:54.175 --> 1:35:56.175 I put it back on the market. I've tried to 1:35:56.295 --> 1:36:01.495 sell it and the potential purchaser got a report in 1:36:01.655 --> 1:36:11.135 which the subsidence has shown. So we're just wondering what 1:36:11.295 --> 1:36:12.215 could be the next step. 1:36:12.335 --> 1:36:13.175 How do I affect it. 1:36:19.055 --> 1:36:21.095 Without seeing it. It's a little bit difficult to say. 1:36:21.175 --> 1:36:24.775 I mean, you know, if ground has moved, let's say, 1:36:25.375 --> 1:36:29.615 because typically you know, if there's a slope and the 1:36:29.735 --> 1:36:33.255 slope is moving, and that's considered like a slip or 1:36:33.295 --> 1:36:36.095 a landslide or something like that, then you might end 1:36:36.175 --> 1:36:39.095 up going to EQC and having them engaged. But if 1:36:39.175 --> 1:36:44.135 it's ground movement caused by let's say your neighbor's retaining 1:36:44.295 --> 1:36:47.575 wall giving way and that undermining yours, then you could 1:36:47.735 --> 1:36:51.175 take action against your neighbor potentially. I understand what you're 1:36:51.215 --> 1:36:53.295 saying that they are an elderly person and you don't 1:36:53.335 --> 1:36:57.895 necessarily want to cause upset. The next stage might be 1:36:58.055 --> 1:37:03.255 to have a geotechnical engineer assess the situation, inspect both properties, 1:37:03.495 --> 1:37:06.495 and determine what the cause of it is. And if 1:37:07.295 --> 1:37:10.495 the cause is related to a failure something that your 1:37:10.535 --> 1:37:14.575 neighbor is responsible for, then I suppose you could take 1:37:14.575 --> 1:37:18.695 the attitude well, regardless of age and circumstance, they are 1:37:18.775 --> 1:37:23.615 still responsible for that they're causing potential damage or movement 1:37:23.695 --> 1:37:26.295 to my property as a result of their lack of 1:37:26.415 --> 1:37:30.055 maintenance or poor workmanship in the first place, In which 1:37:30.135 --> 1:37:33.335 case it does, age and circumstance doesn't absolve you of 1:37:33.415 --> 1:37:37.215 your responsibilities. You could go to them, But I suspect 1:37:37.255 --> 1:37:39.335 that your next call is probably going to be to 1:37:39.415 --> 1:37:40.655 a geotechnical engineer. 1:37:41.655 --> 1:37:46.695 Sure, and just pointing that out, this section that we 1:37:46.855 --> 1:37:52.255 have is a quarterreca flat pancake section. The QUARTERCA so 1:37:53.215 --> 1:37:54.855 it's not on a s law, right. 1:37:59.815 --> 1:38:03.375 You sure the subsidence isn't caused by something like a 1:38:03.535 --> 1:38:05.855 pipe collapsing underground or something like that. 1:38:07.455 --> 1:38:08.455 I have no clue. 1:38:08.695 --> 1:38:13.015 Yeah, okay, I think I think a geotechnical investigation is 1:38:13.095 --> 1:38:15.695 going to be your next stage because and the reason 1:38:15.735 --> 1:38:18.295 that that might be valuable is also that if there's 1:38:18.375 --> 1:38:21.415 going to be any remedial work done. It's also going 1:38:21.495 --> 1:38:25.975 to require assessment by a geotechnical engineer, so you know, 1:38:26.055 --> 1:38:28.455 any money that you might spend, you'll find that it's 1:38:28.575 --> 1:38:32.855 useful as part of the repair process. Sure, okay, good, 1:38:33.175 --> 1:38:36.175 all the best us take care, Thank you, I think 1:38:36.215 --> 1:38:37.975 and Monty just very quickly, how are you? 1:38:39.095 --> 1:38:39.295 Yeah? 1:38:39.375 --> 1:38:39.575 Good? 1:38:40.255 --> 1:38:44.335 Yeah, thanks McCall beck. You very kindly gave me the 1:38:44.455 --> 1:38:48.095 name of the of a seiler for doing the joints 1:38:48.215 --> 1:38:51.775 and a deck fib like deck. I cannot all those damned? 1:38:53.575 --> 1:38:55.655 Can you what the brand? 1:38:55.735 --> 1:38:56.855 What I should go for? 1:38:57.215 --> 1:38:59.935 Chances are it would have been fixed All. So I 1:39:00.015 --> 1:39:02.575 f I X A double L and that's made by 1:39:02.695 --> 1:39:04.175 sud L h. 1:39:05.735 --> 1:39:08.735 D A L so you d A L. 1:39:08.895 --> 1:39:11.935 Yeah, Pseudor is the brand, and then fix All would 1:39:11.975 --> 1:39:14.415 have been the product. And the great thing with that 1:39:14.655 --> 1:39:19.095 is it's a mixture of a silicon so filler with 1:39:19.295 --> 1:39:22.095 an adhesive as well. So once if you've got the 1:39:22.175 --> 1:39:25.975 substrate prepared well and you put that in, it will stay. 1:39:25.815 --> 1:39:27.775 There right now? 1:39:27.815 --> 1:39:29.415 Will that be able to be painted over with? 1:39:30.255 --> 1:39:31.695 You can paint fix All? 1:39:31.935 --> 1:39:32.135 Yeah? 1:39:32.615 --> 1:39:32.775 Yeah. 1:39:33.095 --> 1:39:35.535 For preparations where the thing makes all the difference and 1:39:35.575 --> 1:39:37.375 that's what I'm endeavoring to do and do it properly. 1:39:37.495 --> 1:39:42.215 So it's always it's always about the preparation. Yeah, you're 1:39:42.295 --> 1:39:45.135 so right, and we don't want to hear that when 1:39:45.215 --> 1:39:48.015 we're trying to clean something or we're standing something, or 1:39:48.015 --> 1:39:52.095 we're scraping something or whatever. But ultimately, you know, it's 1:39:52.255 --> 1:39:56.535 always preparation. Good preparation, good result. Poor preparation, no matter 1:39:56.615 --> 1:39:58.615 how good the product is, it ain't going to work. 1:39:59.535 --> 1:40:00.575 No, No, that's great. 1:40:00.815 --> 1:40:01.735 Oh, thank so so much. 1:40:02.015 --> 1:40:05.015 Once again, nice to take care, take care, all the best, 1:40:06.135 --> 1:40:09.495 think your news talks. It'd be let's jump into the garden. 1:40:09.895 --> 1:40:12.655 Rid klimb Past is with us. If you've got a 1:40:12.735 --> 1:40:16.135 question for Ridd, anything to do with plants, the wonderful 1:40:16.135 --> 1:40:19.255 world of entomology as well. Rudd will be with us 1:40:19.415 --> 1:40:20.335 in just a moment. 1:40:21.815 --> 1:40:25.335 Gardening with still sharp massive field days savings on still 1:40:25.415 --> 1:40:26.215 tools now. 1:40:28.375 --> 1:40:30.415 Squeaky door or squeaky floor. 1:40:31.015 --> 1:40:34.415 Get the right advice from Peter Wolfcare, the resident builder 1:40:34.615 --> 1:40:37.895 with Light four Solar offering affordable solar solutions. 1:40:38.095 --> 1:40:38.975 News talks, it'd be. 1:40:40.775 --> 1:40:40.895 Right. 1:40:41.215 --> 1:40:43.975 That must be my turn, and more importantly, Rudd, it's 1:40:44.055 --> 1:40:44.495 your turn. 1:40:45.015 --> 1:40:47.135 Hello, good a how are you. 1:40:47.335 --> 1:40:51.015 You're good, very good and slightly you know, taking a 1:40:51.135 --> 1:40:53.215 Rosie view of the world after having spent a couple 1:40:53.215 --> 1:40:56.055 of days at field days because they're just such good people. 1:40:56.175 --> 1:40:58.735 Evan been there for a while, but I always I 1:40:58.735 --> 1:41:01.535 always enjoy I've always find I have not enough time. 1:41:01.855 --> 1:41:05.255 Yeah, I know, I know, And it's amazing. What's you 1:41:05.335 --> 1:41:08.335 know like and like I say, I've only been going 1:41:08.375 --> 1:41:10.375 the last on seven or eight years or something like that. 1:41:10.535 --> 1:41:13.975 But you know, you're wandering along and these drones that 1:41:14.055 --> 1:41:17.975 you can use for spraying or you know, the technology 1:41:18.095 --> 1:41:21.295 side of it is amazing. The equipment, of course is fascinating. 1:41:21.415 --> 1:41:24.815 And I just find that the people because they're all doers, right, 1:41:24.935 --> 1:41:29.135 everyone's if everyone's engaged, and I love being around people 1:41:29.175 --> 1:41:29.375 like that. 1:41:29.895 --> 1:41:33.335 Certainly is talk about drone spraying. You know, when we 1:41:33.455 --> 1:41:37.255 do predator free New Zealand, And for instance, we noticed 1:41:37.295 --> 1:41:40.175 that well not me or but you know the people 1:41:40.215 --> 1:41:42.415 that do it, they knows that the helicopter has missed 1:41:42.455 --> 1:41:45.615 let's say ten meters. Yeah, sure, and obviously they send 1:41:45.695 --> 1:41:48.015 a drone into to fix that. That sort of stuff 1:41:48.135 --> 1:41:49.175 is really cool start. 1:41:49.455 --> 1:41:51.855 But even some of that technology and the use of 1:41:52.015 --> 1:41:56.215 AI to identify predators and pests and traps. 1:41:56.735 --> 1:41:57.415 Yep, you know. 1:41:57.535 --> 1:42:00.855 The I guess the old way of trapping was that 1:42:00.975 --> 1:42:03.495 you had lots of people walking miles and miles through 1:42:03.575 --> 1:42:05.935 the forest and that sort of thing. And now some 1:42:06.055 --> 1:42:09.015 of them, you traps, will recognize what they've captured, they'll 1:42:09.095 --> 1:42:11.255 release ort of you know, it's just incredible. 1:42:11.855 --> 1:42:14.295 You have to remember that I was at in in 1:42:15.575 --> 1:42:19.095 Queenstown this last week where we had a kiwi WHOI 1:42:19.455 --> 1:42:22.655 so whoey about kiwi? Three days of talks about kiwi 1:42:23.015 --> 1:42:26.695 and ai. Stuff is becoming more and more. It comes 1:42:26.775 --> 1:42:29.655 more and more to the actually quite interesting. So these 1:42:29.735 --> 1:42:32.455 traps now identify who's at the front of the trap, 1:42:32.975 --> 1:42:34.695 and then they are to said, no, it's not it's 1:42:34.735 --> 1:42:36.535 not it's not a pest, it's a kiwi or it's 1:42:36.575 --> 1:42:39.455 a you know, something we like, and they hold back, 1:42:39.535 --> 1:42:42.735 they shut up. That's it. But the moment of comes 1:42:43.895 --> 1:42:44.495 make my day. 1:42:45.255 --> 1:42:45.615 That's right. 1:42:45.735 --> 1:42:46.855 Bring it on, sunshine. 1:42:47.415 --> 1:42:50.055 Yeah, hey, you're talking about that. This is just a 1:42:50.135 --> 1:42:52.575 couple of little little things. First of all, we stayed 1:42:52.615 --> 1:42:56.295 in a wonderful little place at Lakeland Christian Camp and 1:42:56.535 --> 1:42:58.935 and there was this is the other thing about this. 1:42:59.055 --> 1:43:00.775 So you go to a place like that and you're 1:43:00.815 --> 1:43:03.415 there with one hundred and something people, and then there's 1:43:03.535 --> 1:43:06.695 Rachel Paula who feed you everything that you can have. 1:43:06.855 --> 1:43:09.375 It's just unbelievable. I just want to shout out to 1:43:09.415 --> 1:43:12.415 these guys. That's wonderful. That is exactly the way it was. 1:43:12.735 --> 1:43:14.775 And the other thing that I think a lot of 1:43:14.815 --> 1:43:17.015 people that are not in the South Island will forget 1:43:17.495 --> 1:43:20.335 is that we now have very soon on the twenty 1:43:20.375 --> 1:43:27.775 first of June, that famous place, the Wanica Mountain Film 1:43:27.855 --> 1:43:30.615 Festival is starting on the twenty first For about sixty 1:43:30.775 --> 1:43:33.855 nine bucks or so, you can actually get yourself a 1:43:34.255 --> 1:43:37.175 subscription for the whole month to watch all these amazing films. 1:43:37.455 --> 1:43:40.775 If you see the trailer of the film Festival, the 1:43:40.935 --> 1:43:44.295 Film Festival in Wanica, you will watch it. I'll bet 1:43:44.335 --> 1:43:46.735 you you will. It is unbelievable. 1:43:46.775 --> 1:43:51.335 I just thought i'd tell you fantastic. Right, let's get 1:43:51.335 --> 1:43:55.095 amongst the calls, fullball calls already and lislie. Let's start 1:43:55.135 --> 1:43:58.695 with you Heally, Hello, Rode. 1:43:59.175 --> 1:44:01.415 I want to know if you can help me. My 1:44:01.615 --> 1:44:08.135 passion fruit has gone feral. It's gone everywhere, and the 1:44:08.255 --> 1:44:12.495 fruit is there as well, so what can I do? 1:44:12.775 --> 1:44:15.655 When should I prune and how far should I prune it? 1:44:16.375 --> 1:44:19.055 I would first of all, let those fruit ripen if 1:44:19.095 --> 1:44:22.535 that's still happening, and then do it afterwards. Yeah, in 1:44:22.575 --> 1:44:24.815 the winter time, you can prune it back. Don't go 1:44:24.935 --> 1:44:28.375 over the top. But but but make it suit your sight, 1:44:28.735 --> 1:44:28.935 you know. 1:44:28.935 --> 1:44:29.335 What I mean. 1:44:30.175 --> 1:44:35.255 Yes, it's okay, thank you, no problem have you? 1:44:35.455 --> 1:44:36.455 Is it still ripening? 1:44:36.535 --> 1:44:40.655 You think, well, I'm not sure that it's just producing 1:44:40.775 --> 1:44:41.655 more fruit. 1:44:42.655 --> 1:44:47.935 Where you were from where you're ringing, you don't have 1:44:48.015 --> 1:44:51.575 any frost. So take it while it goes, keep going. 1:44:52.495 --> 1:44:55.255 But you can then take off at the moment if 1:44:55.295 --> 1:44:57.975 you want to start early, take off those particular vines 1:44:58.255 --> 1:45:00.415 that haven't got fruit on if you like. You can 1:45:00.695 --> 1:45:02.295 prune those back already. 1:45:02.895 --> 1:45:06.175 And probably pinch back the ends with that help. 1:45:07.295 --> 1:45:09.695 Not necessarily, but you could try it. You might find 1:45:09.735 --> 1:45:11.735 it starts to spread out a bit more. You know, 1:45:11.775 --> 1:45:15.855 it starts to put new new branches off just beyond 1:45:15.935 --> 1:45:16.815 the way you pruned it. 1:45:18.695 --> 1:45:25.175 That's six feet high and about about twelve feet wide 1:45:26.055 --> 1:45:27.415 and lush all over. 1:45:28.015 --> 1:45:29.815 And that's why I want you to prune it for 1:45:29.935 --> 1:45:33.575 your own. If you like your own size and height 1:45:33.695 --> 1:45:35.415 that you can reach comfortably. 1:45:36.335 --> 1:45:40.935 I say, right, I'll do that, Okay, all very busy 1:45:40.975 --> 1:45:43.535 to take care, Leslie and Andrew A very good morning 1:45:43.575 --> 1:45:43.735 to you. 1:45:45.095 --> 1:45:52.335 Morning morning, Rude. Oh on a dairy farm, and we've 1:45:52.415 --> 1:45:55.975 got a lot of native planting that we're interested in going. 1:45:56.015 --> 1:45:59.455 We've already started. But what I was wanting to know 1:45:59.735 --> 1:46:03.095 is a couple of things. How easy is it to 1:46:03.255 --> 1:46:05.695 grow notice from cuttings? 1:46:06.775 --> 1:46:12.055 Quite easy, some of them quite easy, I'll give you. Oh, 1:46:13.375 --> 1:46:18.775 there so many things, peosporums, quite easy, lots of different things, 1:46:18.895 --> 1:46:21.335 whatever you want to do. Are you thinking of hedges 1:46:21.535 --> 1:46:24.655 or just basically trees that are going to be becoming 1:46:25.255 --> 1:46:26.695 trees or shrubs. 1:46:27.815 --> 1:46:33.175 Everything. We've got probably three kilometers just of road frontage 1:46:33.255 --> 1:46:37.415 on a boundary, and then a couple of weird areas, 1:46:39.055 --> 1:46:45.175 some internal planting as well. It's various stages. But I'm 1:46:45.255 --> 1:46:48.855 just wondering, is there any particular site or book or 1:46:48.895 --> 1:46:51.015 anything that you can point me to that might help 1:46:51.095 --> 1:46:53.295 me out and understanding this a bit bitter? 1:46:53.815 --> 1:46:57.215 Absolutely, I think there is quite I am not sure 1:46:57.215 --> 1:46:59.135 I've got it. For instance, a Yates garden guard here, 1:46:59.175 --> 1:47:01.895 which I usually take with me to the studio. But 1:47:02.135 --> 1:47:04.815 I know that I've at home, I've got quite a 1:47:04.855 --> 1:47:09.975 few books on and taking cuttings and all that sort 1:47:09.975 --> 1:47:12.255 of stuff, but also how you can take cuttings by, 1:47:12.335 --> 1:47:15.415 for instance, layering we call that layering, such as certain 1:47:15.495 --> 1:47:19.575 branches underground by literally digging them into the ground, put 1:47:19.615 --> 1:47:22.415 a brick on them, and basically those little twigs will 1:47:22.535 --> 1:47:25.975 also form roots. You can then cut it off after 1:47:26.055 --> 1:47:28.375 a year if they're all okay, and you use that 1:47:28.455 --> 1:47:31.175 as a new plant. And to be quite honest, if 1:47:31.175 --> 1:47:34.255 you're talking about three and a half kilometers of frontage, 1:47:34.815 --> 1:47:37.295 you might want to save yourself some dish by doing 1:47:37.375 --> 1:47:40.295 it yourself. And for that reason, I suggest get something 1:47:40.455 --> 1:47:43.975 like a shade house that is usually very useful for 1:47:45.255 --> 1:47:47.615 seeds but also for cuttings. 1:47:48.975 --> 1:47:52.815 Okay, Can I jump in as well and just say 1:47:53.455 --> 1:47:56.655 the other thing, Andrew is have a look around your community, 1:47:56.815 --> 1:48:02.575 right and undoubtedly you'll find some ecological restoration groups that 1:48:02.695 --> 1:48:04.975 have sprung up because you know this bitter than I do. 1:48:05.335 --> 1:48:08.655 They're everywhere now, which is so awesome. And get the 1:48:08.735 --> 1:48:11.855 advice and connect with them. And again, I'm thinking about 1:48:11.935 --> 1:48:15.135 restoring takodonghaki that work me where I am you know 1:48:15.255 --> 1:48:18.055 this community group that's now developed a nursery and is 1:48:18.095 --> 1:48:21.695 propagating maybe as many as forty thousand seedlings a year. 1:48:21.975 --> 1:48:24.415 So you know, if you connect with a local group 1:48:24.895 --> 1:48:27.735 and then get some advice and some guidance from them, 1:48:27.855 --> 1:48:30.815 or perhaps work collaboratively with them, you know, you don't 1:48:30.815 --> 1:48:32.015 have to reinvent the wheel, do you. 1:48:32.535 --> 1:48:37.895 No, sorry, one to look on a thing quickly. So 1:48:38.055 --> 1:48:41.135 the pest protectors that you put on to protect plants 1:48:41.135 --> 1:48:44.335 when they're young, how long would you leave them on for? 1:48:44.535 --> 1:48:48.335 Because we do have pakekiko and other birds on farm 1:48:48.855 --> 1:48:53.415 that can be but a little frustrating if you take 1:48:53.495 --> 1:48:57.415 them off or don't even put the protectors on initially. 1:48:57.575 --> 1:48:58.935 So I was just wondering how long you'd. 1:48:58.815 --> 1:48:59.175 Leave them on. 1:48:59.735 --> 1:49:01.775 Well, the problem is that I haven't. I haven't got 1:49:01.815 --> 1:49:04.015 a good because we don't, thank god, haven't got many 1:49:04.055 --> 1:49:06.615 pook kickers where I have been and where i'm so 1:49:06.775 --> 1:49:09.815 I'm not that good at this. But protectors are always 1:49:09.815 --> 1:49:12.215 good for the first year or two sometimes because it 1:49:12.295 --> 1:49:17.015 also stops weeds overgrowing your new plants. That's quite an 1:49:17.015 --> 1:49:19.575 important thing. But you know what if I have if 1:49:19.615 --> 1:49:22.495 I were really cheeky, I would say, especially if you're 1:49:22.535 --> 1:49:26.415 near Christchurch, go to Burnside Primary and ask the years, 1:49:26.815 --> 1:49:29.335 the kids who are eight, nine, ten years because they 1:49:29.495 --> 1:49:35.575 actually build gardens to reintroduce a rather amazing butterfly back 1:49:35.615 --> 1:49:38.295 into the city of Grossiers. And they now to take cuttings, 1:49:38.455 --> 1:49:41.055 no how to do the seeds. They know it all. 1:49:41.295 --> 1:49:43.135 That's what I'm saying. You know, connect with your local 1:49:43.415 --> 1:49:46.975 ecological groups and you know just so much information and 1:49:47.135 --> 1:49:50.935 so much goodwill as well. Great one, Andrew, Thanks, appreciate 1:49:51.015 --> 1:49:52.775 it and love the w that you're about to do. 1:49:52.895 --> 1:49:55.535 I think that's super exciting. We should take a break 1:49:55.575 --> 1:49:57.255 and then we'll talk to Bruce and then we'll be 1:49:57.335 --> 1:49:58.615 back in just a moment. 1:50:00.255 --> 1:50:03.255 Helping you get those DIY projects done right. 1:50:03.495 --> 1:50:07.455 The resident builder with Peter Wolfcare and four Solar now 1:50:07.575 --> 1:50:11.095 offering a free vttery upgrade season season playing News Talks. 1:50:11.615 --> 1:50:13.815 Your News Talks. It been Bruce. Good morning to you, sir, 1:50:14.775 --> 1:50:15.415 is good morning. 1:50:15.695 --> 1:50:18.535 I've got a problem with strawberries. 1:50:19.455 --> 1:50:20.215 What's the problem. 1:50:21.215 --> 1:50:26.695 Wonderful plants, great rubbers, but no throat. All I produce 1:50:27.055 --> 1:50:30.135 is some rubbers after runner after runner. 1:50:30.495 --> 1:50:33.095 Which is good because there was a real scarcity of 1:50:33.255 --> 1:50:34.215 plants last year. 1:50:34.335 --> 1:50:39.095 Remember that's right. And I've now got probably fifty plants. 1:50:39.695 --> 1:50:42.815 That's fine, that's okay, But here we go from here on. 1:50:42.975 --> 1:50:46.015 What do you use as fertilized bruise, Well. 1:50:46.175 --> 1:50:50.855 The normal strawberry fertilizer, and of I've got a few 1:50:51.015 --> 1:50:55.095 extra plants on the glasshouse and I've got so potters 1:50:55.255 --> 1:50:55.535 on them. 1:50:56.095 --> 1:50:58.815 Yes you don't, you don't. That's quite often the way 1:50:58.815 --> 1:51:00.255 to go. But you have to remember that this time 1:51:00.295 --> 1:51:02.255 of the year. Of course, there's not much flowering going 1:51:02.295 --> 1:51:05.855 on in nothing, no, no, no, but it does pay 1:51:05.935 --> 1:51:09.495 to give him from from early spring, really early spring, 1:51:09.615 --> 1:51:14.055 let's say August September, a little bit of that potage 1:51:14.135 --> 1:51:18.455 to just remind them, hello, wake up, time to flower. Yeah, 1:51:18.815 --> 1:51:20.535 and that is probably the way to go. Have you 1:51:20.615 --> 1:51:21.575 done that last year too? 1:51:22.295 --> 1:51:24.695 Well? I thought I did last year, but all my 1:51:24.815 --> 1:51:28.095 producer was runner Still I just think them out or 1:51:29.615 --> 1:51:31.655 keep persevering, Yeah. 1:51:31.535 --> 1:51:33.895 Keep persevering. But that potage should do it. That's self 1:51:33.935 --> 1:51:36.735 made of potash. If you water that into the soil, 1:51:37.175 --> 1:51:39.095 you know, of course, the soil's got to be nice 1:51:39.135 --> 1:51:41.935 and well drained and full of organic material. As you know, 1:51:42.575 --> 1:51:44.895 you do that too, I'm sure yeah, yeah, I'm sure. 1:51:45.335 --> 1:51:47.655 Well then it's the potage that should really wake those 1:51:47.695 --> 1:51:49.455 plants up. I would persevere with it. 1:51:50.295 --> 1:51:51.495 Okay, Well, thanks for that. 1:51:52.815 --> 1:51:54.015 Good luck, Bruce, bye bye. 1:51:54.495 --> 1:51:56.735 All the best Bruce, you take care, and Diane a 1:51:56.935 --> 1:51:57.535 very good morning. 1:51:58.495 --> 1:52:01.855 Good morning Rose. I've got a bit of a challenge, 1:52:01.895 --> 1:52:04.055 and you helped me once before with my gloggy soil. 1:52:04.135 --> 1:52:06.055 It's about three or four years ago. But now I 1:52:06.135 --> 1:52:11.895 have gardens full of breastcas and spinach and silver beet 1:52:11.895 --> 1:52:14.735 at for different stages and all sorts of varieties of things. 1:52:15.535 --> 1:52:18.135 My leaks, however, have green soil. 1:52:18.655 --> 1:52:19.415 What have I done? 1:52:20.215 --> 1:52:22.495 Everything tiled apart from around my leaks. 1:52:23.495 --> 1:52:26.175 Oh, so, so the leaks are still in? What you 1:52:26.255 --> 1:52:30.055 mean you haven't? You haven't literally this is a new 1:52:30.135 --> 1:52:33.375 winter garden, okay. And what's wrong with the leaks. 1:52:34.015 --> 1:52:36.575 Well, the soil around the leaks has gone green. 1:52:37.975 --> 1:52:41.775 Soil has gone green? What with wheat or what? 1:52:46.975 --> 1:52:47.055 Am? 1:52:47.135 --> 1:52:48.975 I started it with a with a. 1:52:51.175 --> 1:52:55.135 Put the normal sheep poos and then chicken pools, and 1:52:55.255 --> 1:52:57.975 then I put the leaks in. After that, so normal 1:52:58.055 --> 1:52:59.295 trenching and then put the leaks in. 1:52:59.855 --> 1:53:01.535 That is the way I would do it for leaks. 1:53:01.575 --> 1:53:06.415 Because leaks are very nitrogen hungry things, aren't they. And 1:53:07.055 --> 1:53:08.895 but they are not growing very well. Is that what 1:53:09.015 --> 1:53:09.455 you're saying. 1:53:09.655 --> 1:53:12.895 No, they're not growing. But the soil, the soil has 1:53:13.695 --> 1:53:16.135 has got a green tinge. So the rist of guns 1:53:16.135 --> 1:53:18.815 fine toiled and everything, but the soil around the lakes 1:53:18.855 --> 1:53:19.695 has gone green. 1:53:20.295 --> 1:53:23.455 I would I've never seen it like described like that, 1:53:23.655 --> 1:53:25.695 or never seen it like the way you described it. 1:53:25.775 --> 1:53:27.255 Let's put it that way. I'm not sure what that 1:53:27.415 --> 1:53:30.935 green tinge means, and it might be that it wants 1:53:31.015 --> 1:53:35.215 some uh, phosphates for the for the roots of the 1:53:35.255 --> 1:53:37.775 plants to grow with, you know what I mean. So 1:53:38.335 --> 1:53:41.415 you can't just you can't just have an animal manure. 1:53:41.615 --> 1:53:44.815 I suppose on plants like that you sometimes do have 1:53:44.935 --> 1:53:47.295 to give them a little bit of general fertilizer with 1:53:47.415 --> 1:53:50.655 the normal balance of N, P and K. But in 1:53:50.735 --> 1:53:52.695 this case, especially the P you don't need the K, 1:53:52.855 --> 1:53:55.175 you don't want it the flower, but the phosphate is 1:53:55.215 --> 1:53:56.295 the one that might be lacking. 1:53:57.175 --> 1:53:59.495 Okay, I'll give that a try. Thank you very much 1:53:59.535 --> 1:53:59.975 for your help. 1:54:02.655 --> 1:54:05.015 Thank you, Diane, take care and Jerry, hey. 1:54:04.895 --> 1:54:09.695 There, good morning. I'd like to speaks rude about blackberries. 1:54:09.775 --> 1:54:11.095 Please go for it. 1:54:11.335 --> 1:54:12.535 Tell me what's the problem. 1:54:12.855 --> 1:54:16.535 We're we have some lovely BlackBerry wines. We get a 1:54:16.615 --> 1:54:19.255 lot of blackberries off them, but we find that the 1:54:19.375 --> 1:54:23.975 fruit is not as sweet as the local nature blackberries. 1:54:24.335 --> 1:54:27.175 What can I add to the soil to improve that sweetness? 1:54:27.695 --> 1:54:31.415 Potash? I know that for a fact. It goes for 1:54:31.495 --> 1:54:33.935 a lot of different plants like this, especially the berry plants. 1:54:34.255 --> 1:54:36.495 If you give them a little bit of selfate of potash, 1:54:36.855 --> 1:54:39.415 they not only set more fruit and are more willing 1:54:39.455 --> 1:54:42.015 to put more fruit, but the fruits also become sweeter. 1:54:42.455 --> 1:54:45.495 The same with the with the citrus as well. By 1:54:45.575 --> 1:54:48.735 the way, Oh great, yeah, So get yourself a little 1:54:48.735 --> 1:54:53.495 big selfate of potash already. Yeah, And you use it 1:54:53.615 --> 1:54:55.495 with and you use it as an add on to 1:54:55.655 --> 1:54:59.015 the normal general fertilizer like United Fosco Blue or whatever 1:54:59.095 --> 1:55:00.175 you use, and. 1:55:00.255 --> 1:55:02.255 You'll find it occasionally throughout. 1:55:02.015 --> 1:55:03.055 The year or. 1:55:04.735 --> 1:55:08.375 Night when you remember there you were just a bit 1:55:08.655 --> 1:55:08.935 thank you. 1:55:09.095 --> 1:55:11.935 And on another line, you will know Peter Sware Sport 1:55:12.615 --> 1:55:15.615 with the Doctor in college. Yeah yeah, what a great 1:55:15.935 --> 1:55:16.775 what a great band. 1:55:17.375 --> 1:55:19.655 Yeah, I know the trinkle has been You don't worry, 1:55:20.935 --> 1:55:22.335 do you know? I'm a Jespianist. 1:55:24.495 --> 1:55:26.775 I did. That's one reason why I mentioned it, because 1:55:26.775 --> 1:55:27.895 I know you're into chat. 1:55:28.855 --> 1:55:34.175 Playing all of this theory. Take care and Jason, a 1:55:34.335 --> 1:55:35.095 very good morning to you. 1:55:36.335 --> 1:55:42.895 Oh hello, hello Jason. Where are you? Madiard? 1:55:42.895 --> 1:55:46.495 Thank you list. I went to the walk to Point Ship, 1:55:46.535 --> 1:55:49.815 which is an Auckland western springs at the zoo. Yeah, 1:55:50.895 --> 1:55:54.895 and it was raining and I spripped back two treezes 1:55:55.055 --> 1:55:56.975 bar and I couldn't see one water. 1:55:58.215 --> 1:55:59.775 Oh where did where? 1:55:59.775 --> 1:55:59.855 Did? 1:56:00.015 --> 1:56:00.215 Where? 1:56:00.255 --> 1:56:01.135 Did you look for them? 1:56:02.695 --> 1:56:04.735 Just in the It was raining at the time, so 1:56:04.815 --> 1:56:07.855 I was under under a shelter of the trees. Yeah, 1:56:07.855 --> 1:56:11.775 you know, I thought I barking under some subs under 1:56:11.775 --> 1:56:15.415 the lea leaves and stuff, and I didn't see one 1:56:15.495 --> 1:56:16.575 meta wondering. 1:56:16.375 --> 1:56:17.095 W fot them? 1:56:17.695 --> 1:56:20.255 Well, if you if you go in that area. I 1:56:20.415 --> 1:56:23.535 used to find them hidden in the back of large 1:56:23.655 --> 1:56:24.455 pine trees, for. 1:56:24.535 --> 1:56:26.735 Instance, pine trees. 1:56:26.855 --> 1:56:29.735 Okay, well, no, they don't eat pine trees. But what 1:56:29.855 --> 1:56:31.415 I mean is, do you know how pine tree bark 1:56:31.655 --> 1:56:33.415 has got these wonderful grooves in it? 1:56:34.815 --> 1:56:35.015 Yeah? 1:56:35.455 --> 1:56:39.095 Not not okay, Well there you go. It's stuff like that. 1:56:39.535 --> 1:56:41.655 That's one place where you'd find them. The second place 1:56:41.695 --> 1:56:44.895 you could find them is especially when it's dark. Of course, 1:56:45.135 --> 1:56:47.335 when they come out is when they come out of 1:56:47.535 --> 1:56:51.975 old holes made by poor moth caterpillars. And you can 1:56:52.015 --> 1:56:54.535 find those not only in poor but also in the 1:56:54.935 --> 1:56:57.455 wetter in trees like that. And you'll find them coming 1:56:57.535 --> 1:57:00.775 out of those holes in Aukland, especially at night. 1:57:02.415 --> 1:57:04.015 What what what are these words for? 1:57:04.135 --> 1:57:04.375 Quite? 1:57:05.695 --> 1:57:07.935 What do these their worms look like? What do you mean? 1:57:10.695 --> 1:57:10.815 Oh? 1:57:10.895 --> 1:57:12.135 What do those holes look like? 1:57:13.335 --> 1:57:13.735 The holes? 1:57:13.815 --> 1:57:14.015 Yeah? 1:57:14.095 --> 1:57:17.775 Yeah, the holes look like somebody has chewed a little 1:57:17.775 --> 1:57:21.655 bit on the bark in a diamond shaped pattern. There's 1:57:21.695 --> 1:57:23.935 a hole in the middle that goes into the tree 1:57:24.055 --> 1:57:26.415 and down in the shape of a seven. And that 1:57:26.615 --> 1:57:29.495 is a second hand dwelling for a tree weather and 1:57:29.615 --> 1:57:32.535 you'll find them even in the Chinese privet trees. They 1:57:32.615 --> 1:57:35.615 seem to love Chinese privt trees. So those holes are 1:57:35.655 --> 1:57:39.095 made by caterpillars over about five year time spent, and 1:57:39.175 --> 1:57:41.935 when they have emerged as big moths and flown away 1:57:41.935 --> 1:57:43.695 and did their mating and all that sort of stuff, 1:57:44.055 --> 1:57:47.175 the holes remain and weather go like this is my 1:57:47.455 --> 1:57:51.615 house and they take it over really well, never go. 1:57:53.695 --> 1:57:54.575 You do they bite? 1:57:55.815 --> 1:57:58.375 Yeah, they do, especially if you pick them up. But 1:57:58.495 --> 1:58:00.495 if you let them walk on you. When you let 1:58:00.735 --> 1:58:03.415 let them walk on you and you touch their antenna 1:58:04.735 --> 1:58:06.895 so they know what you smell like and get used 1:58:06.895 --> 1:58:09.655 to you, you can have a weather literally as a pet. 1:58:09.735 --> 1:58:11.575 And most of the kids that have worked with me 1:58:12.015 --> 1:58:16.655 will know exactly. My girlfriend is Dorothy. She's a female weather. 1:58:17.015 --> 1:58:20.655 She goes to all the schools and and she walks 1:58:20.695 --> 1:58:23.495 over the kids. She does everything. But initially, if you, 1:58:23.575 --> 1:58:26.455 for instance, mishandle them, Yep, they can bite and it 1:58:26.615 --> 1:58:27.135 can hurt. 1:58:29.135 --> 1:58:32.935 Well, I see them and I think, well they must 1:58:33.295 --> 1:58:34.655 arg you, but they don't. 1:58:34.735 --> 1:58:36.695 Well they can, they can. 1:58:36.895 --> 1:58:41.415 Okay, thank you, Jason, you have a great day, and 1:58:41.735 --> 1:58:43.335 ian a very good morning to you. 1:58:44.775 --> 1:58:45.415 Good morning to you. 1:58:46.975 --> 1:58:51.695 I'm looking to take cuttings off Lily Pilly and grow 1:58:51.775 --> 1:58:54.015 it and I'm watching to see what sort of length 1:58:54.655 --> 1:58:58.855 I should be cutting them out, and then what sort 1:58:58.895 --> 1:59:02.335 of media I should put it into. Tried putting it 1:59:02.415 --> 1:59:07.575 into a promised next, but it didn't seem to take 1:59:07.735 --> 1:59:08.135 very well. 1:59:08.735 --> 1:59:11.335 Okay are you And the reason you've said promise is 1:59:11.375 --> 1:59:13.175 because you needed You know that you need to take 1:59:13.215 --> 1:59:18.455 cuttings in reasonably well drained materials, right, Yeah, okay, what 1:59:18.615 --> 1:59:20.495 I do with Look, first of all, why would you 1:59:20.615 --> 1:59:22.375 use lily Pilly? By the way, can I ask some 1:59:22.415 --> 1:59:27.215 I'm quite quite curious about that for hedge for a hedge, okay, 1:59:28.335 --> 1:59:32.415 may I warning warning, Lily Pilly will get sillots, they 1:59:32.455 --> 1:59:35.655 will get honeyjew on them, they get sooty mold on them. 1:59:35.975 --> 1:59:39.975 Lily Pilly are also the plants that can transmit myrtle rust. 1:59:42.295 --> 1:59:45.615 So as a hedge, I think lily Pilly should from 1:59:45.695 --> 1:59:49.615 now on bee band. As an Australian interloper or South America, 1:59:49.695 --> 1:59:52.255 I might never is sure where they're from. Australian or 1:59:52.335 --> 1:59:56.375 South American interloper. That is actually causing usually more questions 1:59:56.415 --> 2:00:02.615 to this talkback radio show than any other plants. So 2:00:02.855 --> 2:00:05.415 if you, if you're a nice hatch, get yourself a 2:00:05.575 --> 2:00:08.655 native one, a karakia or a bit of sporum or 2:00:08.735 --> 2:00:11.415 something like that. Where where where do you? Where are 2:00:11.455 --> 2:00:12.055 you ringing from? 2:00:12.055 --> 2:00:12.255 Ian? 2:00:12.295 --> 2:00:12.895 Where do you live? 2:00:14.335 --> 2:00:14.575 Hy? 2:00:16.055 --> 2:00:16.975 Is that near Auckland? 2:00:18.335 --> 2:00:18.455 Uh? 2:00:18.735 --> 2:00:19.895 No, it's out of. 2:00:21.455 --> 2:00:24.055 Oh there? Okay, See if you can go to a 2:00:24.135 --> 2:00:27.775 local the Hamilton Botannic Gardens would problems probably have really 2:00:27.815 --> 2:00:29.735 good examples of what you can plant in your area 2:00:30.135 --> 2:00:32.455 and find a really nice native thing that you can 2:00:32.575 --> 2:00:35.135 use as a hedge. And to me quite honest, the 2:00:35.255 --> 2:00:40.575 cuttings go. Here's my recipe, half botting mix, half fine pumas, 2:00:41.015 --> 2:00:43.575 and probably it's the lack of the potting miss mix 2:00:43.655 --> 2:00:46.375 that caused it to dry out too quick. Your your cuttings, 2:00:46.415 --> 2:00:47.975 you know what I mean, And that's why they failed. 2:00:49.375 --> 2:00:53.655 Okay, ex no, you know everything you can do it 2:00:54.215 --> 2:00:56.615 probably not where Ian thought the conversation was going to go, 2:00:56.735 --> 2:00:58.455 But as soon as he said, Lily Pili I'm going 2:00:58.455 --> 2:01:00.495 to I was like, Hey, I'm wondering how long it's 2:01:00.495 --> 2:01:03.375 going to take for the hammer drops any gues? Yeah, 2:01:04.015 --> 2:01:04.855 not a great plant. 2:01:05.255 --> 2:01:06.695 I might as well be honest about that. 2:01:06.775 --> 2:01:09.495 Absolutely it is. Yeah, yeah, No, I mean anyone I 2:01:09.575 --> 2:01:13.815 know who's put on lipoli hedges it just Ton pain, Yeah, 2:01:13.895 --> 2:01:16.695 and contributing to, you know, the spirad of metal rust, 2:01:16.735 --> 2:01:18.935 which is not a great thing. So yeah, you're right, 2:01:19.055 --> 2:01:21.975 let's let's get rid of the damn thing. There you go, right, 2:01:22.335 --> 2:01:25.455 A very quick final call from you, Roger, how are you? Sir? 2:01:26.095 --> 2:01:31.055 Oh coo moya one minds lives in our isn't. 2:01:32.415 --> 2:01:33.735 Sorry? Sorry I could didn't get that. 2:01:33.855 --> 2:01:38.775 Sorry, one unranger knew and fun guard and one blows 2:01:38.815 --> 2:01:42.935 to believe and one loss leaves yet oh that. 2:01:43.055 --> 2:01:47.375 Could be because it's a different genetic genetic genetic species 2:01:47.415 --> 2:01:52.015 if you like. And also you're fertilized them both, have you. Yeah, 2:01:52.535 --> 2:01:55.015 well then they should be going all right, don't worry, 2:01:55.055 --> 2:01:56.855 it's just a matter of time. They might be a 2:01:56.935 --> 2:01:57.735 couple of weeks late. 2:01:57.855 --> 2:02:00.735 There you are, thank you don't always have to freak 2:02:00.775 --> 2:02:02.095 out a that's. 2:02:01.975 --> 2:02:02.855 Right, certainly not. 2:02:03.855 --> 2:02:08.935 Stay calm and yours too. In fact, let's do it 2:02:08.975 --> 2:02:12.335 again next week. Take care of mate, all the best now. 2:02:12.495 --> 2:02:14.455 Last week, a couple of weeks ago on the show, 2:02:14.495 --> 2:02:16.575 we did a little giveaway from my mates at Roobe, 2:02:16.655 --> 2:02:19.295 which was great and Cheryl was the winner of that, 2:02:19.455 --> 2:02:22.895 and as it happens, she lived not too far from 2:02:22.895 --> 2:02:24.495 where I had to run some errand, so I dropped 2:02:24.535 --> 2:02:27.695 in to see her last Sunday, which was delightful and 2:02:28.095 --> 2:02:32.135 a very worthy recipient of that prize pack from Raobi, 2:02:32.255 --> 2:02:34.815 so that was a big pleasure. That was lovely. Actually 2:02:34.895 --> 2:02:36.655 last week Cheryl having a bit of a chat with you, 2:02:37.375 --> 2:02:41.015 and actually turns out today's my nephew next birthday, so 2:02:41.135 --> 2:02:43.055 I'm going to embarrass him by saying happy birthday and 2:02:43.095 --> 2:02:43.535 lots of love. 2:02:43.615 --> 2:02:43.815 Mate. 2:02:44.815 --> 2:02:47.055 Right, let's go and do this all again next Sunday. 2:02:47.135 --> 2:02:50.775 Have a great week and we will see you, Oh Joseph. 2:02:50.855 --> 2:02:54.775 Technical Dreamcoat on at the Art Center starts on Friday, Friday, 2:02:54.855 --> 2:02:56.535 Saturday Sunday. Get your tickets. 2:03:05.495 --> 2:03:08.415 For more from the Resident Builder with Peter Wolfcamp, listen 2:03:08.575 --> 2:03:11.295 live to Newstalk zet B on Sunday mornings from six, 2:03:11.655 --> 2:03:13.695 or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.