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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Resident build Up podcast with Peter

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Speaker 1: wolf Camp from News Talks at b.

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Speaker 2: Squeaky Door or Squeaky Floor.

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Speaker 1: Get the right advice from Peter wolf Camp the Resident

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Speaker 1: Builder with Light four Solar offering affordable solar solutions News Talks.

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Speaker 3: It be in the home stretch.

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Speaker 4: Of the herd.

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Speaker 2: It took a heart left, but we're.

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Speaker 5: All, yeah, la sure cantra so love Louie b we

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Speaker 5: do this right. Is so somethings they ever gonna moved it.

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Speaker 5: When the bones are good restat you the bank of field.

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Speaker 5: That's the shadow of the woody this you and I

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Speaker 5: remain when the crack in the foundation, debbiean Man Stone

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Speaker 5: well person the time talk about we stayed the hat

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Speaker 5: fall in the bones.

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Speaker 1: And m.

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Speaker 6: We call it up.

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Speaker 2: Baby, you can't even this Nobby boots drive.

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Speaker 7: Way go.

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Speaker 6: Way, we planny. But the wolves came and went.

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Speaker 2: Were still standing on the ball.

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Speaker 5: The stone man, the pain Restora came this.

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Speaker 3: You wouldn't have a man.

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Speaker 5: Stay in a crack in the foundation, baby, Not a

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Speaker 5: way stops.

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Speaker 2: A little hasn't fallen about.

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Speaker 3: Well, very very good morning, and welcome along to the

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Speaker 3: Resident Builder. On Sunday, you were me people wolf Camp

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Speaker 3: the resident builder, And this is a show. Well, to

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Speaker 3: be blunt, it's kind of a show about your place.

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Speaker 3: It's about things that might be happening quietly in the background.

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Speaker 3: Rust is active, decay happens, Maintenance is a constant requirement

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Speaker 3: on our properties. And how do we deal with all

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Speaker 3: of that. Well, we've got to be active. We've got

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Speaker 3: to be in there, we've got to be searching it out,

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Speaker 3: and we've got to be targeting those repairs and that maintenance.

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Speaker 3: And that's what this show is all about. So if

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Speaker 3: you've got a question of a building nature, the lines

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Speaker 3: are open for you. It is eight hundred eighty ten eighty.

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Speaker 3: You can text as well, which is nine two nine

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Speaker 3: two ISBZB from mobile phone and if you'd like to

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Speaker 3: send me an email, you're more than welcome. It's Pete

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Speaker 3: at newstalksb dot co dot nz. So trust you've had

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Speaker 3: a good week and if you've been trying to get

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Speaker 3: something around the house done, then I trust that you've

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Speaker 3: had a productive and successful week as well. We can

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Speaker 3: talk all things building a construction, products, selection ideas, issues

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Speaker 3: with legislation, regulation that controls what we can do and

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Speaker 3: when we can do it, and any other sort of

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Speaker 3: building and construction related issues that you'd like to raise.

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Speaker 3: Eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

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Speaker 3: Like I say, I hope you've had a really good week.

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Speaker 3: I have to say, just very briefly, I had the

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Speaker 3: opportunity to go down and be part of Field Days

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Speaker 3: for a coup couple of days, so Thursday Friday down

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Speaker 3: at Field Days both days, and I have to And

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Speaker 3: I'm a slightly embarrassingly kind of a late convert to

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Speaker 3: the first time I went was probably six or seven

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Speaker 3: It is a fantastic event every single year, and for me,

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Speaker 3: just quickly, one of the things that I most enjoy.

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Speaker 3: One it's the opportunity just to have a chat with

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Speaker 3: easy to say they're kind of different than city kids.

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Speaker 3: and people are coming in. They're looking for new safety

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Speaker 2: On the airport.

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Speaker 3: The other young chap oh, I'm studying at Lincoln University

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Speaker 3: A couple of others were either into training or into jobs.

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Speaker 3: we want to be doing. We want to be doing

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Speaker 3: Maybe not on the end of a hammer or giving

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Speaker 3: into it. Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the

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Speaker 3: which I'm delighted about. I love having the guests, but

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Speaker 3: the opportunity to just spend the entire morning talking about

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Speaker 3: your place is great. So let's get into it. Oh

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Speaker 3: eight hundred eighty ten eighty the number to call all

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Speaker 3: things building construction. This is the resident builder on Sunday

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Speaker 3: and Marty A very good morning to you all.

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Speaker 9: Good morning, Pete.

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Speaker 8: How are you.

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Speaker 3: I'm very well. Thanks.

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Speaker 10: We're just looking.

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Speaker 9: We've got a property that we're looking at. It's a rural,

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Speaker 9: rural property. It's a it's got to shed on it,

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Speaker 9: nothing's permitted. It's got a shed on it, which I

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Speaker 9: think would be you know, built under the amount of

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Speaker 9: they've put an living accommodations a fireplace. Nothing's permitted. They've

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Speaker 9: got off the side of the shed.

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Speaker 11: They've got a.

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Speaker 9: You could call a utility room with a kitchen, at toilet,

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Speaker 9: shower set, The tanks are all there. There's two of

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Speaker 9: them on the property. What's the what's the go about

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Speaker 9: getting it permitted through the council?

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Speaker 3: Ah, okay, Look, to be fair, it's a little bit

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Speaker 3: for the work. But clearly that sort of work does

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Speaker 3: require a consent. When you first said, look, there's a

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Speaker 3: shit on the property and it's not consented, I'm like, yeah, well, okay,

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Speaker 3: would those sorts of buildings always require a consent.

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Speaker 9: I don't know whether the shed's got plumbing in it,

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Speaker 9: that sheds a standalone everything, okay.

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Speaker 3: But adjacent to it, is this living space.

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Speaker 11: This accommodation beside.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, so they put a fire box in the

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Speaker 9: shed itself yep. And a bedroom, but the kitchenette and

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Speaker 9: the share and that sort of things in a separate area.

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Speaker 9: And whether it's over a septic tank or a plugs

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay. Like the pathway would typically be to apply

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Speaker 3: There's no such thing anymore as a retro retrospective building consent,

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Speaker 3: so you could go for a CoA certificate of acceptance.

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Speaker 3: The burden of proof is very similar to basically to

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Speaker 3: because they that alone triggers the requirement for a building consent.

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Speaker 3: It might be doable, and potentially rural areas might have

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Speaker 3: a slightly different approach to these sorts of structures than

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Speaker 3: it is quite the process.

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Speaker 11: Okay, yeah, cost wise too, it would be.

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Speaker 3: And again, at the risk of repeating myself, I've often

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Speaker 11: Right?

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Speaker 3: And I certainly I have noticed that both in terms

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Speaker 3: for work that doesn't have a well, you won't get

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Speaker 3: a CCC regardless if you get to see a certificate

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Speaker 3: of acceptance. That's not like having a code compliance certificate.

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Speaker 3: And then I you know, insurers might be reluctant to

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Speaker 3: it's been put together and whether it's compliant, right yeah.

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Speaker 3: And then the other part of it is when you

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Speaker 12: Yeah, so.

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Speaker 9: So yeah, maybe you could maybe if you buy with

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Speaker 9: the leave it, leave it uncomplied.

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Speaker 7: But then.

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Speaker 9: Through the time pull down and replace.

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Speaker 3: and I certainly I can tell you what to do,

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Speaker 3: But the I guess you're in a position where if

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Speaker 3: need it for your use, then potentially you could either

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Speaker 3: pull it down or replace it, or you could work

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Speaker 3: time to get it up to stand it. I suppose

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Speaker 3: it's very different if the building that you were going

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Speaker 3: and said, you know, are you sure that you're allowed

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Speaker 3: to habitable dwellings on that section?

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Speaker 9: It is one dwelling although they have put an up,

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Speaker 9: Yeah, the shed, what were the main The main building

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Speaker 3: Construction Maintenance Regulations eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is

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Speaker 3: Good morning, Kathy, Oh, good morning.

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Speaker 13: How are you today?

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Speaker 3: Morning? Very well on yourself, good good.

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Speaker 13: Hey, You've been very helpful to me over the years.

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Speaker 13: And I've got another little problem that needs a teaching.

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Speaker 13: I've got it was a verandah out the front of

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Speaker 13: the previous zoners put a conservatory over the top, and

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Speaker 13: used concrete blocks right the corner block right in the corner,

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Speaker 13: I've picked it up and you know, just probably about

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Speaker 3: Okay, So is the block the piece that's fallen out,

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Speaker 3: full with concrete yellow Kathy, Hello, yeah, Hi, Sorry, it's

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Speaker 3: not a great line, Kathy. So that the peak, can

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Speaker 13: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Okay, So the piece that's fallen out behind it is

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Speaker 9: There's solid concrete?

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Speaker 3: Okay. If you had the piece, potentially you could glue

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Speaker 3: And you can actually buy like concrete patch repair kits

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Speaker 3: You can mix it up and what you probably can't

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Speaker 13: Okay, and so where would I get that?

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Speaker 3: All of the large hardware stores will have it, and

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Speaker 3: it'll typically be either a Seeker or a ce Mix brand,

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Speaker 13: Oh great, yeap, Okay, I'm I've got another question. I

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Speaker 13: recently had the store of my house insulated.

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Speaker 3: And I'll tell you what, Kathy, we might have to

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Speaker 15: A yeah, question about Falkland council permits. Right, I had

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Speaker 15: I never sided a completion certificate for this sort of thing,

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Speaker 15: so I paid for it when they did the quote, Yeah,

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Speaker 15: there's two hundred and ninety five dollars with a permit

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Speaker 15: me by counsel or by them or yeah, that's a question.

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Speaker 3: Oh hey, that's a great question. So all right, let's

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Speaker 3: just work through this. So you had obviously a registered

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Speaker 3: the compliance part of it, so we'll make an application

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Speaker 3: some types of building work, what happens is and this

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Speaker 3: The building consent is granted, but they don't necessarily come

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Speaker 3: So in this instance here you don't necessarily need inspection.

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Speaker 3: Does that mean that they you immediately get a CCC

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Speaker 3: is there a building consent for this type of work registered? A?

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Speaker 15: Right? Yeah, that's yeah, that's that's sort of wondering if

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Speaker 3: There and in fact whatever even if you get a

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Speaker 15: That's another four hundred backs on it.

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Speaker 3: You can get the property file for about seventy odd bucks.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you're true, but.

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Speaker 3: fair enough to but looks you know seven years ago,

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Speaker 3: And then you can track it from there and I'm

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Speaker 3: or yeah that's right. But what you could do is

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Speaker 15: Basically, yeah, yeah, I've done where you suggest that I've

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Speaker 3: Good.

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Speaker 15: But if yeah, they don't come through with it. I

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Speaker 3: If you've applied for a c ccply you know what

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Speaker 3: haven't sent it to you because you didn't apply for

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Speaker 3: And the responsibility for applying for the CCC is always

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Speaker 15: On the owner. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know that too.

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Speaker 3: Or you've learned that now. Yeah. Look, hopefully you know

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Speaker 3: it'll be one of those things where it might take you,

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Speaker 3: but hopefully it should.

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Speaker 2: All be there.

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Speaker 11: Good luck with it.

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Speaker 15: One of the things.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, go for it.

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Speaker 15: One other things. Just looking at buying a block of

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Speaker 15: the bathroom and a couple of them. It's got pony

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Speaker 15: floor dodge, Yes, right, you can, you can. You can

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Speaker 15: always put your foot through it. Can you cut out

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Speaker 3: a kitchenette and so on. It was particle board flooring.

439
00:25:26,175 --> 00:25:29,295
Speaker 3: It was kind of nineteen nineties and they obviously hadn't

440
00:25:29,295 --> 00:25:33,095
Speaker 3: done a great job in seventy Yeah, okay, so yeah,

441
00:25:33,135 --> 00:25:36,015
Speaker 3: if it's had a slow, persistent leak there, that floor

442
00:25:36,095 --> 00:25:41,055
Speaker 3: will be pretty average. The challenge is often that joys

443
00:25:41,135 --> 00:25:42,975
Speaker 3: are laid down, the flooring is laid down, and the

444
00:25:43,135 --> 00:25:46,055
Speaker 3: timber frames sit on top, right, and so yeah, you

445
00:25:46,095 --> 00:25:47,775
Speaker 3: can cut the floor out, but how do you get

446
00:25:47,815 --> 00:25:50,455
Speaker 3: that piece of flooring out from underneath the bottom plate,

447
00:25:51,535 --> 00:25:53,855
Speaker 3: And in some cases you can't. You just leave it

448
00:25:53,935 --> 00:25:56,455
Speaker 3: in there. You cut alongside the bottom plate, nouget, and

449
00:25:56,535 --> 00:25:59,135
Speaker 3: then sheet in a new piece. Look, I mean, if

450
00:25:59,215 --> 00:26:01,975
Speaker 3: you're going to you know, if you're going to the

451
00:26:02,055 --> 00:26:05,615
Speaker 3: extent of repairing part of it, knowing perhaps that there

452
00:26:05,735 --> 00:26:09,255
Speaker 3: is some decay that's on the way, but isn't that

453
00:26:09,375 --> 00:26:11,055
Speaker 3: bad and the rest of it? Wouldn't you try and

454
00:26:11,175 --> 00:26:13,455
Speaker 3: do the whole floor? But then that's stripping out a

455
00:26:13,495 --> 00:26:14,415
Speaker 3: whole bathroom.

456
00:26:15,695 --> 00:26:20,335
Speaker 15: Yeah, it's taken out the Yeah that the vanity the

457
00:26:20,415 --> 00:26:23,295
Speaker 15: bath the isn't it.

458
00:26:26,175 --> 00:26:29,335
Speaker 3: I mean, look, you know you've obviously got to.

459
00:26:29,575 --> 00:26:34,495
Speaker 15: Just keep taking it away until you get to sound, yes, ideally, yeah, yeah,

460
00:26:35,095 --> 00:26:38,135
Speaker 15: but so so yeah, once you get the sound, it's

461
00:26:38,215 --> 00:26:40,575
Speaker 15: not you don't necessarily have to take the whole thing

462
00:26:40,615 --> 00:26:44,375
Speaker 15: out of the bathroom. It can be replaced. Well, these days,

463
00:26:44,375 --> 00:26:46,455
Speaker 15: I think you replace it with ply. It's got to

464
00:26:46,495 --> 00:26:49,735
Speaker 15: be so it's nice and smooth and put your line down.

465
00:26:49,935 --> 00:26:51,335
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's right.

466
00:26:51,415 --> 00:26:53,735
Speaker 3: And sometimes this is what happens. You know, typically the

467
00:26:53,855 --> 00:26:56,975
Speaker 3: leak is in one area, right, in this case, the

468
00:26:57,055 --> 00:26:58,895
Speaker 3: one that I was looking at, it was actually not

469
00:26:59,055 --> 00:27:01,215
Speaker 3: from any of the fittings inside the room. It was

470
00:27:01,415 --> 00:27:04,695
Speaker 3: poor flashing detail on the joinery, right, and so water

471
00:27:04,735 --> 00:27:07,135
Speaker 3: are tracked in there and and right on the corner

472
00:27:07,255 --> 00:27:10,615
Speaker 3: of the joinery, you know, that's where it had like

473
00:27:10,775 --> 00:27:13,055
Speaker 3: literally I could put my hand through the floor it was.

474
00:27:13,295 --> 00:27:16,215
Speaker 3: It was in that sort of state. So yeah, in

475
00:27:16,335 --> 00:27:18,735
Speaker 3: this instance here, because we're changing the use of the room,

476
00:27:19,015 --> 00:27:22,175
Speaker 3: we've stripped out the entire floor. But you don't necessarily

477
00:27:22,255 --> 00:27:23,775
Speaker 3: need to do that. You can sort of take a

478
00:27:23,855 --> 00:27:28,735
Speaker 3: targeted approach. No good, all right, good luck with that, Okay,

479
00:27:29,055 --> 00:27:32,535
Speaker 3: take care. Nice to see people still getting into property investment.

480
00:27:33,015 --> 00:27:35,975
Speaker 3: I suppose now is god I heard a story like that,

481
00:27:36,535 --> 00:27:39,735
Speaker 3: you know, lots of talk about the property market and

482
00:27:39,775 --> 00:27:43,175
Speaker 3: where it's at. So a property that I'm aware of

483
00:27:44,015 --> 00:27:49,815
Speaker 3: has a CV of about one point six vendor expectation

484
00:27:50,135 --> 00:27:54,855
Speaker 3: being realistic, was maybe one point two offer on the

485
00:27:54,975 --> 00:28:01,615
Speaker 3: table eight point fifty. Yeah, that might indicate where part

486
00:28:01,695 --> 00:28:03,575
Speaker 3: of the housing market is. But good on your greg

487
00:28:03,615 --> 00:28:05,775
Speaker 3: for having a crack. Eight hundred and eighty ten eighty

488
00:28:05,935 --> 00:28:08,495
Speaker 3: is the call, Margaret. We will come back to you

489
00:28:08,655 --> 00:28:09,855
Speaker 3: straight after the break.

490
00:28:10,975 --> 00:28:14,935
Speaker 2: Measure twice god once, but maybe call Pete first.

491
00:28:15,135 --> 00:28:18,695
Speaker 1: Peter wild Gap, the resident builder with late four solar

492
00:28:18,935 --> 00:28:21,535
Speaker 1: offering affordable solar solutions, used.

493
00:28:23,255 --> 00:28:25,775
Speaker 3: Your news talks B. We're taking your calls on all

494
00:28:25,855 --> 00:28:30,455
Speaker 3: things building, construction, renovating and maintenance, and Margaret are very

495
00:28:30,495 --> 00:28:31,095
Speaker 3: good morning to you.

496
00:28:31,895 --> 00:28:35,855
Speaker 16: Good morning, Peter morning. I have a garage that's part

497
00:28:35,935 --> 00:28:39,775
Speaker 16: of my house and I want to extend the garage

498
00:28:40,095 --> 00:28:43,135
Speaker 16: door and get a new electric door. Do I need

499
00:28:43,255 --> 00:28:43,815
Speaker 16: a permit?

500
00:28:45,295 --> 00:28:47,535
Speaker 3: Okay? So there's two parts of that one. You say

501
00:28:47,615 --> 00:28:50,015
Speaker 3: you wanted to extend your garage door. Do you want

502
00:28:50,055 --> 00:28:51,455
Speaker 3: to make the opening wider?

503
00:28:52,375 --> 00:28:52,575
Speaker 8: Yes?

504
00:28:52,935 --> 00:28:57,095
Speaker 3: Okay, So making the opening wider will trigger a requirement

505
00:28:57,175 --> 00:29:02,055
Speaker 3: for a building consent. Changing the door itself won't so

506
00:29:02,455 --> 00:29:05,415
Speaker 3: because because making the doorway open means that you've got

507
00:29:05,495 --> 00:29:09,215
Speaker 3: to extend the lintel the beam that spans that opening,

508
00:29:09,975 --> 00:29:12,055
Speaker 3: and so counsel will want to know that that work

509
00:29:12,175 --> 00:29:15,175
Speaker 3: is done to the building code. Therefore you'll need a

510
00:29:15,255 --> 00:29:16,175
Speaker 3: building consent for that.

511
00:29:17,055 --> 00:29:19,335
Speaker 16: So that's not the same as a permit, or is it?

512
00:29:19,855 --> 00:29:20,095
Speaker 11: Yees?

513
00:29:20,215 --> 00:29:23,255
Speaker 3: So in the it's a change in language. So prior

514
00:29:23,335 --> 00:29:26,975
Speaker 3: to about nineteen ninety we had building permits. After nineteen

515
00:29:27,095 --> 00:29:31,215
Speaker 3: ninety ish we've got building consents. So yes, a building

516
00:29:31,255 --> 00:29:32,935
Speaker 3: consent is the new terminology.

517
00:29:33,815 --> 00:29:35,415
Speaker 16: Yes, so thank you very much for that.

518
00:29:35,855 --> 00:29:38,655
Speaker 3: But yes, you will need a building consent for that. Yes,

519
00:29:38,815 --> 00:29:41,095
Speaker 3: thank you, No trouble at all. Margaret, all the best,

520
00:29:42,295 --> 00:29:44,135
Speaker 3: and Craig, a very good morning to you.

521
00:29:45,135 --> 00:29:46,095
Speaker 11: Good morning. How's the game today?

522
00:29:46,215 --> 00:29:46,735
Speaker 3: Not bad things?

523
00:29:47,895 --> 00:29:50,615
Speaker 11: I thought a continuity projud I was stalking the other

524
00:29:50,695 --> 00:29:56,975
Speaker 11: day about the underground lab. Oh yes, yeah, we've done

525
00:29:57,015 --> 00:29:58,735
Speaker 11: a bit of a cleanout, had a whole of plywood

526
00:29:58,775 --> 00:30:01,095
Speaker 11: floor on that. Basically the property. You come up like

527
00:30:01,175 --> 00:30:03,335
Speaker 11: a hell to the house. It's sound like about a

528
00:30:04,495 --> 00:30:10,495
Speaker 11: ten Aker site. Yeah, it's kind of ruish, not two

529
00:30:10,535 --> 00:30:12,055
Speaker 11: close to neighbors, but yeah, you come up the house.

530
00:30:12,455 --> 00:30:13,855
Speaker 11: You got the house there, and then you've got the

531
00:30:15,255 --> 00:30:18,895
Speaker 11: pre mentioned underground place underneath it. But then the back

532
00:30:19,015 --> 00:30:21,895
Speaker 11: lawns all got gardens of flower gardens you would and

533
00:30:21,975 --> 00:30:23,735
Speaker 11: couldn't really tell at all. But then right at the

534
00:30:23,775 --> 00:30:27,015
Speaker 11: back of the back lawn there's a big concrete wall

535
00:30:27,095 --> 00:30:31,095
Speaker 11: and behind that it steps down to like a pond.

536
00:30:31,295 --> 00:30:34,135
Speaker 11: There's got like probably about a probably about a one

537
00:30:34,215 --> 00:30:37,935
Speaker 11: acre pond there with like ducks and stuff on it. Yeah,

538
00:30:38,055 --> 00:30:40,375
Speaker 11: it's kind of a little little jutty thing. You could

539
00:30:40,375 --> 00:30:42,055
Speaker 11: sit on there. Fish, but I think you didn't catch much,

540
00:30:42,095 --> 00:30:45,815
Speaker 11: probably carp and eels. But anyway, we're cleaning up the

541
00:30:46,855 --> 00:30:49,095
Speaker 11: the underground part. They're taking all the plot in the

542
00:30:49,135 --> 00:30:52,055
Speaker 11: corner and we found there's like a little hole in

543
00:30:52,215 --> 00:30:54,375
Speaker 11: the corner, so we cleared it out, and what we

544
00:30:54,455 --> 00:30:57,815
Speaker 11: found is is in the corner it's got like about

545
00:30:57,855 --> 00:30:59,735
Speaker 11: a meter and a half pipe to go straight down

546
00:30:59,855 --> 00:31:02,215
Speaker 11: congrege pipe, and there's all the mud in the bottoms.

547
00:31:02,215 --> 00:31:03,895
Speaker 11: It cleared down and it started flooding the wood. And

548
00:31:03,975 --> 00:31:05,615
Speaker 11: what worked out is it goes down from there and

549
00:31:05,655 --> 00:31:08,575
Speaker 11: then does the right nineteen, goes under and then pops

550
00:31:08,615 --> 00:31:12,375
Speaker 11: out in the pond. Crighty, So I think the guy

551
00:31:12,455 --> 00:31:13,935
Speaker 11: must have been in to dive in or whatever it

552
00:31:14,015 --> 00:31:17,975
Speaker 11: may be used to. Just I don't know that's where

553
00:31:18,015 --> 00:31:18,375
Speaker 11: and where.

554
00:31:19,015 --> 00:31:20,535
Speaker 3: I have to say, it's got to be one of

555
00:31:20,615 --> 00:31:24,375
Speaker 3: the best stories I've heard ever while I've been doing

556
00:31:24,415 --> 00:31:26,175
Speaker 3: the show. It's just extraordinary.

557
00:31:27,175 --> 00:31:28,575
Speaker 11: So it's fine for us too.

558
00:31:28,975 --> 00:31:32,015
Speaker 3: For a bit of context without going into too much detail.

559
00:31:32,055 --> 00:31:34,695
Speaker 3: This is a native yours who's purchased a property to

560
00:31:34,895 --> 00:31:38,695
Speaker 3: uncover a tunnel that leads to a subterranean room. And

561
00:31:39,495 --> 00:31:41,655
Speaker 3: I'm right with the sizes. A you're talking like it's

562
00:31:41,695 --> 00:31:43,895
Speaker 3: six meters by twenty meters.

563
00:31:44,015 --> 00:31:46,415
Speaker 11: And it's about nine meters by twenty meters nine.

564
00:31:48,495 --> 00:31:53,215
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's massive, massive, like genuinely massive. And it's not

565
00:31:53,415 --> 00:31:55,815
Speaker 3: like it's nine foot by twenty foot eight. We're talking

566
00:31:55,975 --> 00:31:58,255
Speaker 3: the right measurements. It's nine meters.

567
00:31:58,415 --> 00:31:58,615
Speaker 17: Yeah.

568
00:31:59,175 --> 00:31:59,375
Speaker 11: Yeah.

569
00:31:59,815 --> 00:32:02,455
Speaker 3: So I'm looking out here at the studio that we're in,

570
00:32:03,135 --> 00:32:06,175
Speaker 3: and I mean it's a big space.

571
00:32:06,375 --> 00:32:10,575
Speaker 11: It's actually bigger than the footprint of the foundation footprint

572
00:32:10,615 --> 00:32:10,975
Speaker 11: of the house.

573
00:32:11,135 --> 00:32:12,615
Speaker 3: And then, to be fair, when we were talking about

574
00:32:12,615 --> 00:32:14,575
Speaker 3: it last week, I was thinking, hey, on how in

575
00:32:14,655 --> 00:32:17,815
Speaker 3: a standard residential dwelling you're never going to fit this

576
00:32:17,975 --> 00:32:20,695
Speaker 3: on right, just won't fit onto a five six hundred

577
00:32:20,695 --> 00:32:23,775
Speaker 3: and seven hundred square meter section, but obviously it's slightly rural.

578
00:32:24,815 --> 00:32:27,655
Speaker 3: But yeah, and then a connection to a pond, it

579
00:32:27,815 --> 00:32:30,055
Speaker 3: must make that space incredibly damp.

580
00:32:32,695 --> 00:32:34,495
Speaker 11: It's not too bad now I've actually gone through. And

581
00:32:34,775 --> 00:32:37,575
Speaker 11: what I've done is put a whole lot of about

582
00:32:37,655 --> 00:32:40,935
Speaker 11: throwing the mill round PBC pipes through down the hallway

583
00:32:40,975 --> 00:32:42,815
Speaker 11: front the main building with their conditioners and put a

584
00:32:42,855 --> 00:32:45,135
Speaker 11: fan on drawlerway down through it. And then what we've

585
00:32:45,175 --> 00:32:47,775
Speaker 11: done is actually just got the old skilly out and

586
00:32:47,815 --> 00:32:50,415
Speaker 11: cut slits in the pipe every kind of moll all

587
00:32:50,415 --> 00:32:52,215
Speaker 11: the way down it. Yep, so you get quite a

588
00:32:52,255 --> 00:32:54,055
Speaker 11: lot of warm here coming through. So it's actually driven

589
00:32:54,055 --> 00:32:56,175
Speaker 11: it quite a lot. But the question I've got is

590
00:32:56,295 --> 00:32:58,735
Speaker 11: the floor, And it's just concrete. What we're looking to

591
00:32:58,815 --> 00:33:00,615
Speaker 11: do and is putting down some floor, And I was running,

592
00:33:00,615 --> 00:33:02,535
Speaker 11: could I probably just use the same sort of stuff

593
00:33:02,575 --> 00:33:05,855
Speaker 11: you put like in marine gray carpet, you using like

594
00:33:05,935 --> 00:33:08,335
Speaker 11: garret because they don't really work underlayer or anything. Just

595
00:33:08,375 --> 00:33:10,935
Speaker 11: something like that, which means it should tide it up

596
00:33:10,975 --> 00:33:12,375
Speaker 11: a little bit and then give it a little bit

597
00:33:13,135 --> 00:33:14,415
Speaker 11: resistance to getting.

598
00:33:14,175 --> 00:33:18,255
Speaker 3: Wet garage carpet's great in that location because you know,

599
00:33:18,375 --> 00:33:20,535
Speaker 3: if you think about it's designed to get wet, right,

600
00:33:20,615 --> 00:33:22,095
Speaker 3: you drive on it with your car and the water

601
00:33:22,175 --> 00:33:24,695
Speaker 3: drops down onto it. So yeah, in that sense, yeah,

602
00:33:24,735 --> 00:33:27,575
Speaker 3: that would be ideal. And the other you'd want to

603
00:33:27,655 --> 00:33:31,175
Speaker 3: check with the garage carpet guys. But depending on the

604
00:33:32,295 --> 00:33:35,055
Speaker 3: condition of the concrete, you may also want to apply

605
00:33:35,255 --> 00:33:37,855
Speaker 3: like a vapor barrier to the concrete before you put

606
00:33:38,455 --> 00:33:42,335
Speaker 3: the flooring down, just just to help keep moisture out

607
00:33:42,335 --> 00:33:42,975
Speaker 3: of that space.

608
00:33:44,215 --> 00:33:46,015
Speaker 11: Well, funny you should say that we're already done that

609
00:33:46,095 --> 00:33:48,015
Speaker 11: with done if we've got a whole lot of this stuff.

610
00:33:48,055 --> 00:33:51,375
Speaker 11: We did the floor the other day and the so

611
00:33:51,575 --> 00:33:54,935
Speaker 11: called tunnel and also the walls or the everything it

612
00:33:55,015 --> 00:33:56,815
Speaker 11: was also in the blocks or congrue. Basically done the

613
00:33:56,855 --> 00:34:00,255
Speaker 11: whole thing. Fantast a little bit extra layer because we

614
00:34:00,335 --> 00:34:04,215
Speaker 11: thought possibly later on putting lining around the walls, and

615
00:34:04,255 --> 00:34:07,055
Speaker 11: we're looking at possibly just using probably marine imply just

616
00:34:07,095 --> 00:34:08,815
Speaker 11: to give it a little bit more protection in case

617
00:34:09,375 --> 00:34:11,375
Speaker 11: around just to get well, i'd rather look into concrete

618
00:34:11,415 --> 00:34:12,735
Speaker 11: walls because you're standing here for a while and it

619
00:34:12,775 --> 00:34:16,855
Speaker 11: looks like you're in a prison cell. So we started

620
00:34:16,895 --> 00:34:20,535
Speaker 11: doing that. Just what I've done is we've got eighty

621
00:34:20,655 --> 00:34:23,855
Speaker 11: more mariingray ply. I atually showed about twenty something of

622
00:34:23,895 --> 00:34:25,535
Speaker 11: that and cut it in the strips, and this year

623
00:34:25,655 --> 00:34:27,135
Speaker 11: there for Bettons to go onto the wall.

624
00:34:27,015 --> 00:34:30,695
Speaker 3: And plan and then yeah, yeah.

625
00:34:30,695 --> 00:34:33,655
Speaker 11: That's all kind of but yeah, it's just like we're

626
00:34:33,695 --> 00:34:36,215
Speaker 11: moving on sole plan in the corner and nearly fell

627
00:34:36,255 --> 00:34:37,735
Speaker 11: in this whole and ago there's a hole down here,

628
00:34:37,775 --> 00:34:41,015
Speaker 11: and he goes, so he started cleaning out and goes, no,

629
00:34:41,215 --> 00:34:45,095
Speaker 11: that's around concrete pipe, and I go, were jaking, Go,

630
00:34:45,175 --> 00:34:47,175
Speaker 11: I wonder where that goes. Maybe there's another layup, maybe

631
00:34:47,175 --> 00:34:48,175
Speaker 11: there's another level blow.

632
00:34:49,655 --> 00:34:51,135
Speaker 3: But that's just extraordinary.

633
00:34:51,975 --> 00:34:53,775
Speaker 11: Kind of makes sense because when we moved the kidney

634
00:34:53,775 --> 00:34:54,775
Speaker 11: out of the way, there was a whole lot of

635
00:34:54,855 --> 00:34:56,855
Speaker 11: old diving equipment and National.

636
00:34:56,655 --> 00:34:57,695
Speaker 3: Metal Government yep.

637
00:34:58,015 --> 00:35:00,175
Speaker 11: So I was thinking he probably used to just maybe

638
00:35:00,295 --> 00:35:02,535
Speaker 11: worried about the zombie populace or whatever. I thought, well,

639
00:35:02,615 --> 00:35:04,295
Speaker 11: you have an escape plane. You can just go into

640
00:35:04,335 --> 00:35:05,775
Speaker 11: the pond. But it's like, well, once you get it

641
00:35:05,815 --> 00:35:09,775
Speaker 11: where you can, well, i'll keep you update.

642
00:35:09,575 --> 00:35:12,855
Speaker 3: Of you please do I love the story a work

643
00:35:12,895 --> 00:35:16,535
Speaker 3: in progress. Hey really appreciate it's fantastic. That's absolutely stunning.

644
00:35:17,615 --> 00:35:21,215
Speaker 3: Eight one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call. Robbie.

645
00:35:21,295 --> 00:35:21,895
Speaker 3: Greetings to you.

646
00:35:23,455 --> 00:35:26,495
Speaker 14: Yes, good morning, Pete. Hey there, just wondering if you

647
00:35:26,575 --> 00:35:33,295
Speaker 14: can remember you often referred to a wood restorer. What

648
00:35:33,455 --> 00:35:35,575
Speaker 14: I've got. I've got to patch up some stuff from

649
00:35:35,655 --> 00:35:41,055
Speaker 14: my daughter's place. And the bottom of the little piece

650
00:35:41,135 --> 00:35:43,695
Speaker 14: of form one ground the outside of the window is

651
00:35:43,815 --> 00:35:46,935
Speaker 14: rotten at the bottom. Yes, of those about twenty five

652
00:35:47,055 --> 00:35:50,295
Speaker 14: miles And I'm just wondering with that. I've tried a

653
00:35:50,375 --> 00:35:52,215
Speaker 14: couple of hardware out that's.

654
00:35:52,455 --> 00:35:53,615
Speaker 11: I don't know what I'm talking.

655
00:35:53,775 --> 00:35:55,735
Speaker 2: Yeah, sure, that Builder's.

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Speaker 14: Bog or something like that. Do you have a brand

657
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Speaker 14: for this?

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Speaker 8: Yeah?

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00:36:00,415 --> 00:36:02,895
Speaker 3: Yeah, it is so the product that I use, and

660
00:36:03,015 --> 00:36:05,255
Speaker 3: I tend like I'm just thinking about something that's twenty

661
00:36:05,335 --> 00:36:08,895
Speaker 3: five mil Ideally, what you should do is cut that

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00:36:09,095 --> 00:36:11,815
Speaker 3: section out and put in another piece of timber, because

663
00:36:11,855 --> 00:36:15,015
Speaker 3: it's a lot of filler to put in there. But

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Speaker 3: what just because it's quicker, right Ultimately, So if you've

665
00:36:19,455 --> 00:36:21,735
Speaker 3: got access to a multi tool, that's where these things

666
00:36:21,815 --> 00:36:25,775
Speaker 3: come in handy, you could get in there cut cut

667
00:36:25,855 --> 00:36:28,975
Speaker 3: out a little bit of the timber, apply some timber

668
00:36:29,055 --> 00:36:34,175
Speaker 3: preservative to the exposed grain that'll stop the decay from expanding.

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Speaker 3: And then find a piece of tantalized or treated timber,

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Speaker 3: just roughly cut that to size, glue that in with

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00:36:41,375 --> 00:36:44,055
Speaker 3: some exterior wood glue, and then if it's still a

672
00:36:44,095 --> 00:36:46,415
Speaker 3: little bit hollow, which it will be, because it's easier

673
00:36:46,535 --> 00:36:49,415
Speaker 3: just to put a piece in there, right, and then

674
00:36:50,335 --> 00:36:56,135
Speaker 3: grab The one that I use is it's called Repair Care, right,

675
00:36:57,175 --> 00:37:00,775
Speaker 3: Repair Care, and you can buy it from Rasine color shops.

676
00:37:01,815 --> 00:37:05,615
Speaker 3: They've got it. Read the instructions. It's a little bit

677
00:37:05,615 --> 00:37:08,295
Speaker 3: of a process. It has like a primer that you

678
00:37:08,415 --> 00:37:13,015
Speaker 3: apply and then it extrudes and mixes together. And then

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00:37:13,375 --> 00:37:16,255
Speaker 3: the beauty of it is is that it's it's an

680
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Speaker 3: adhesive and a filler, and so you can apply it

681
00:37:19,695 --> 00:37:21,815
Speaker 3: and then you can shape it and finish it and

682
00:37:21,935 --> 00:37:24,935
Speaker 3: sand it and then paint it. So Repair Care is

683
00:37:25,015 --> 00:37:26,135
Speaker 3: the one that we're talking about.

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Speaker 14: Yep, yep. I think I'd probably have to take the

685
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Speaker 14: effort and take those off and get a bit of

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00:37:32,975 --> 00:37:36,015
Speaker 14: form one terenalized just place the whole thing.

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Speaker 8: Jolly.

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Speaker 3: It may well be easier to do, but you know, sometimes,

689
00:37:39,815 --> 00:37:41,535
Speaker 3: like I've done, it where you might have a little

690
00:37:41,535 --> 00:37:43,415
Speaker 3: bit of rot, let's say in the corner of a sill.

691
00:37:43,855 --> 00:37:45,735
Speaker 3: You don't have to take the whole sill out because

692
00:37:45,975 --> 00:37:48,415
Speaker 3: essentially go take the window out and in that instance,

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00:37:48,495 --> 00:37:51,175
Speaker 3: if you can cut out any of that rotten material,

694
00:37:51,615 --> 00:37:56,455
Speaker 3: chizzle it out, apply some timber preservative to stop it

695
00:37:57,175 --> 00:38:01,055
Speaker 3: that decay extending and expanding and continuing to grow in

696
00:38:01,095 --> 00:38:04,215
Speaker 3: that space, dropping a piece of tantalize, and then finish

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00:38:04,735 --> 00:38:11,655
Speaker 3: the with the repair care is great, all the best, the.

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Speaker 14: Likes of Buss.

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00:38:14,935 --> 00:38:20,455
Speaker 3: And there will be similar types of products possibly, but

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00:38:20,535 --> 00:38:22,295
Speaker 3: I just know that if you go to Razine you'll

701
00:38:22,335 --> 00:38:26,255
Speaker 3: find it there. Yes, mate, so thank you my pleasure,

702
00:38:26,415 --> 00:38:28,495
Speaker 3: all the best, Take care, Craig. We'll take a break.

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Speaker 3: We'll be back with some texts before new sport and

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Speaker 3: we're the top of the hour at seven, which is

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Speaker 3: nine minutes away.

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Speaker 2: Doing other house sporting.

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Speaker 1: The garden asked Pete for a hand the resident builder

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00:38:39,175 --> 00:38:42,295
Speaker 1: with Peter Wildcam and Life for Dollar now offering a

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Speaker 1: free battery upgrade.

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Speaker 3: Your news talks b We're coming up to news time.

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Speaker 3: Couple of texts before then, Hey Pete, A sparky I

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Speaker 3: E and electrician in the formal language, installed two bathroom

713
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Speaker 3: fans for us about a year ago. I've discovered that

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Speaker 3: he did not vent them to the outside properly. He

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Speaker 3: also did not leave us with the COC. Is the

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Speaker 3: problem and if so, what recourse do I have?

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Speaker 11: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I mean, look, that's poor work, right. The whole point

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Speaker 3: of putting a fan is that you extend it to

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Speaker 3: the exterior and make sure that it vents either through

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Speaker 3: the cladding or the roof or the safita or something

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Speaker 3: like that. So that's poor work. And yes, all electricians,

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Speaker 3: the best of my knowledge, should leave with their clients

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Speaker 3: a COC certificate of compliance after they finished the job.

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Speaker 3: That's standard practice. I guess you could go back to

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Speaker 3: them in the first instance. But electricians are also registered, right,

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00:39:41,855 --> 00:39:45,335
Speaker 3: so you could go to the Electrical Safety Board Electrical

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Speaker 3: Registration Board and point out that this is poor work

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Speaker 3: on their part. So maybe tell them that you're going

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Speaker 3: to do it, and I hope that they'll come back

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Speaker 3: and do the work and make sure that it's compliant.

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Speaker 3: And you could also have the work assessed by an

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Speaker 3: inspector as well if you wanted to talk of the bunker,

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Speaker 3: because undoubtedly we're going to be talking about this for years.

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Speaker 3: Nobody really knows what it was ever designed to do.

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Speaker 3: This is the great mystery that we have uncovered, right.

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Speaker 3: Another text, is it possible to replace a corner shower

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Speaker 3: tray which has developed a crack? Very hard to take

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Speaker 3: the shower tray out without taking the doors and the

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Speaker 3: wall lining off? In fact, pretty much almost impossible. And

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Speaker 3: a fairly large number of texts with regard to the

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Speaker 3: change in opening song for the show. Some love it,

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Speaker 3: some don't. I'm inclined to persevere and we'll come back

744
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Speaker 3: with a couple more texts. Now, quick, qu quick, very quick.

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Speaker 3: I have a corner valiante for an on suite. We

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Speaker 3: want to take this corner vanity out and replace it

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Speaker 3: with a standard vanity with a bowl on top. Do

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Speaker 3: we need to inform the council due to the change

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Speaker 3: as on the plans it shows Da da da da da. No,

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Speaker 3: you can change the vanity without conforming the council. There

751
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Speaker 3: you go back hard and break.

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Speaker 1: The ceiling, fixing the fence. Wondering how to fix that

753
00:41:07,295 --> 00:41:09,615
Speaker 1: hole in the water, you give Peter Wolf Cabin call

754
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Speaker 1: on oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty The resident builder

755
00:41:13,015 --> 00:41:17,015
Speaker 1: with Late four Solar offering affordable solar solutions news talks.

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Speaker 3: There'd be righty, Oh, good morning, welcome back to the

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Speaker 3: program at Pete Wolf Camp with you the Resident Builder

758
00:41:23,015 --> 00:41:27,655
Speaker 3: here on a Sunday doing a not particularly imaginatively named

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Speaker 3: show called The Resident Builder on Sunday.

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Speaker 6: There you go.

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Speaker 3: Let's keep it simple. Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty

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Speaker 3: is the number to call if you would like to

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Speaker 3: talk construction, building renovations, compliance regulations, dealing with tradespeople. So

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Speaker 3: just before the news we rushed through a couple of

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Speaker 3: texts there, including one that said, Hey, look, I've had

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Speaker 3: an electrician come to install two fans and I presume

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Speaker 3: in two separate bathrooms, and all I've done seemingly is

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Speaker 3: put the fan in the ceiling, hocked it up, but

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Speaker 3: haven't ducted it to outside. Maybe they had some ducting

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Speaker 3: that kind of ran somewhere through the ceiling, but it

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Speaker 3: didn't go to outside. And look, there's two parts of that.

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Speaker 3: One is, how did it take you, with the growth

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Speaker 3: of respect, how did it take you a year to

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Speaker 3: notice that there was no ducting on the outside, Because

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00:42:11,335 --> 00:42:15,415
Speaker 3: that's kind of quite straightforward, to be really honest. But

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Speaker 3: the fact that they didn't do it knowing full well

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Speaker 3: that that's the proper thing to do, would say that

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Speaker 3: they're not a terribly good electrician. And then, to the

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Speaker 3: best of my knowledge, all electrical work, so electrician comes,

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Speaker 3: let's say, adds a PowerPoint or does some changing the

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00:42:34,335 --> 00:42:36,255
Speaker 3: light bulb, they're not going to issue you with a COC.

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Speaker 3: But typically for all electrical work at the end of

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Speaker 3: the work, at the end of the job, they will

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Speaker 3: write down what they did and issue you with a statement.

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Speaker 3: So like on a triplicate form that goes this is

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Speaker 3: a COC, a certificate of compliance for the electrical work

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Speaker 3: that's done. And my understanding is that all electricians must

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Speaker 3: issue that for the work that they do. So the

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Speaker 3: fact that this one didn't vent to the outside and

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Speaker 3: didn't issue a COEOC would say that they have breached

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00:43:04,815 --> 00:43:10,415
Speaker 3: their guidelines. Reations and electricians, a little bit like gas

792
00:43:10,455 --> 00:43:15,775
Speaker 3: fitters and so on, are self regulating in the sense

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Speaker 3: that if you get a if you're doing an alteration

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00:43:18,015 --> 00:43:20,735
Speaker 3: or you've done a new build, the electrician will come,

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Speaker 3: they will do the work. There's no council inspector that

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00:43:24,135 --> 00:43:28,775
Speaker 3: looks at the electrical work. You might get an inspector,

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00:43:29,295 --> 00:43:33,855
Speaker 3: another electrical inspector to come and check their work at

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Speaker 3: the end, particularly for work that's done on distribution board.

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Speaker 3: But there's no outside authority that comes and checks their work.

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00:43:41,055 --> 00:43:46,855
Speaker 3: So they are self regulating. So I suppose the requirements

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Speaker 3: around the type of work that they do would be

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00:43:49,335 --> 00:43:52,455
Speaker 3: higher because they are self certifying. That's what I'm trying

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00:43:52,495 --> 00:43:54,895
Speaker 3: to say. So yeah, and in that sense, I would

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00:43:54,895 --> 00:43:58,815
Speaker 3: also be thinking seriously perhaps about registering a complaint with

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00:43:59,255 --> 00:44:02,215
Speaker 3: the Electrical Registration Board on that type of behavior and

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00:44:02,255 --> 00:44:04,495
Speaker 3: that type of work as well. Oh, eight one hundred

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00:44:04,655 --> 00:44:08,535
Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty is number to call. And somebody liked

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Speaker 3: what I said about field days, and yeah, I have

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00:44:10,895 --> 00:44:15,815
Speaker 3: spent Thursday Friday of this week just past at field Days,

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00:44:16,415 --> 00:44:17,975
Speaker 3: and I mentioned then I'm a bit of a late

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00:44:18,095 --> 00:44:20,815
Speaker 3: convert to it, but I always enjoyed the time. And

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00:44:20,975 --> 00:44:23,055
Speaker 3: one of the things I most enjoy is that typically

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00:44:23,535 --> 00:44:27,135
Speaker 3: you're there with people who are doers. They are people

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Speaker 3: who are doing stuff, and I love that they're making stuff,

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Speaker 3: they're active and they're involved, whether that's you know, the

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Speaker 3: old farmer that I was chatting to, who's kind of

817
00:44:35,615 --> 00:44:38,655
Speaker 3: you know, semi retired off the farm because the back

818
00:44:38,735 --> 00:44:41,295
Speaker 3: sow and the knees giving out, and you know, life's

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Speaker 3: about more than just working. Through to the younguns who

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Speaker 3: are looking at a career knowing that there are real

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Speaker 3: challenges to this industry and to that sector of the economy,

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Speaker 3: but wanting to be active and engaged. And they're motivated

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Speaker 3: and they're smart and they're dedicated, and I love every

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Speaker 3: bit of that. And I've got to say one of

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Speaker 3: the nicest things about doing these sorts of events is

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Speaker 3: that I get to chat to all sorts of people,

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Speaker 3: including a a lightful woman who came up to me

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Speaker 3: in the Ryobi stand and said, look, my dad listens

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Speaker 3: to the show regularly and really enjoys the show, which

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Speaker 3: is lovely. He tells us all about it later in

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Speaker 3: the day and you can imagine what that's like at

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Speaker 3: family lunch later in the day. So I said that

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Speaker 3: I would definitely say hello to Brian Cleary Kerry, who

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Speaker 3: is in fielding, who is probably listening right now, Thank

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Speaker 3: you for listening, thank you for your kind words. Lovely

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Speaker 3: to meet your daughter at field Days the other day,

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Speaker 3: and Brian, I hope you well today. Oh eight hundred

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Speaker 3: and eighty ten eighty is the number to call. David

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Speaker 3: A very good morning to you.

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Speaker 18: Oh Peter, how are you this morning?

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Speaker 3: I'm very well, thank you, David.

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00:45:47,215 --> 00:45:52,255
Speaker 18: Good Thanks Peter. I've got a question here at our house.

843
00:45:52,655 --> 00:45:55,015
Speaker 18: We're wondering about whether we can rent the downstairs or not.

844
00:45:56,255 --> 00:45:59,455
Speaker 18: I understand it well. I think you need to have

845
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Speaker 18: fire proof the floor and or at least the setting

846
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Speaker 18: of the downstairs, and so it's one about rules to

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Speaker 18: how would you do that work?

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Speaker 3: Okay? So yep, all right. So essentially, in order to

849
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Speaker 3: create a sublet within an existing building, you have to

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Speaker 3: prove that that building is isolated in terms of acoustics,

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00:46:25,015 --> 00:46:28,415
Speaker 3: but in particular in terms of fire from the rest

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00:46:28,495 --> 00:46:31,335
Speaker 3: of the dwelling. And you might find that that's not

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00:46:31,575 --> 00:46:33,735
Speaker 3: just the case of it of doing fire rating on

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00:46:33,815 --> 00:46:36,895
Speaker 3: the ceiling, it may also extend to walls. There are

855
00:46:36,975 --> 00:46:40,855
Speaker 3: some other requirements as well, around things like egress and

856
00:46:41,015 --> 00:46:45,855
Speaker 3: so on. You'd also need. Ultimately, short answer is you're

857
00:46:45,855 --> 00:46:49,015
Speaker 3: going to need a building consent for that work, right yep.

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Speaker 3: And in order to get that, you'll need to have

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00:46:52,775 --> 00:46:55,735
Speaker 3: someone draw ups and plans. You'll need to check that

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00:46:55,855 --> 00:46:59,535
Speaker 3: in fact it is permissible under planning regulations to have

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00:46:59,895 --> 00:47:05,095
Speaker 3: a separate rental unit attached. You wouldn't look to change

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00:47:05,135 --> 00:47:07,375
Speaker 3: the title. It's not like you going to crod a

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00:47:07,415 --> 00:47:11,655
Speaker 3: new title and effectively subdivide that off. It's always going

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00:47:11,735 --> 00:47:13,815
Speaker 3: to be part of one dwelling. But you want a

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Speaker 3: legal sublet in the on the ground floor, let's say yep, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: definitely building consent. You probably in terms of the scope

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Speaker 3: of the work, I would imagine you probably end up

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Speaker 3: having to take down the existing ceilings replace them with

869
00:47:30,375 --> 00:47:35,495
Speaker 3: fire rated ceilings. There'll be a bunch you know, like that.

870
00:47:35,695 --> 00:47:37,855
Speaker 3: If there's a door that connects that unit to the

871
00:47:37,895 --> 00:47:40,415
Speaker 3: rest of the house, that door will need to be

872
00:47:40,415 --> 00:47:46,135
Speaker 3: birated door. Any walls that adjoin the other habitable part

873
00:47:46,215 --> 00:47:48,455
Speaker 3: of the property will also need to be fire rated.

874
00:47:48,975 --> 00:47:51,935
Speaker 3: In some cases, that fire rating might be able to

875
00:47:52,015 --> 00:47:54,855
Speaker 3: be achieved by putting a lining on one side, but

876
00:47:55,055 --> 00:47:57,495
Speaker 3: most likely the lining's got to go on both sides

877
00:47:57,535 --> 00:48:02,975
Speaker 3: of the wall. So yeah, it's all doable, but don't

878
00:48:03,135 --> 00:48:06,095
Speaker 3: underestimate the scope of the work that you're going to

879
00:48:06,135 --> 00:48:09,655
Speaker 3: have to undertake to make it compliant. And then from

880
00:48:09,735 --> 00:48:12,215
Speaker 3: what I've heard talking about this with people, you know

881
00:48:12,455 --> 00:48:15,455
Speaker 3: the risk of courses. If you decide, gosh, that seems

882
00:48:15,495 --> 00:48:16,975
Speaker 3: like a lot of work, I'm just going to rent

883
00:48:17,055 --> 00:48:21,535
Speaker 3: it quietly and so on. If there's a problem, then

884
00:48:21,615 --> 00:48:23,815
Speaker 3: you might find that your insurance is not that keen

885
00:48:23,895 --> 00:48:25,935
Speaker 3: on paying out exactly.

886
00:48:26,175 --> 00:48:28,495
Speaker 18: Yeah, so I guess our first first port of call

887
00:48:28,535 --> 00:48:30,495
Speaker 18: would we go to counsel and find out what their

888
00:48:30,535 --> 00:48:30,895
Speaker 18: rules are?

889
00:48:31,335 --> 00:48:34,255
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so so. And typically most councils have

890
00:48:34,415 --> 00:48:36,895
Speaker 3: like a building helpline or a you know, and you

891
00:48:36,975 --> 00:48:39,015
Speaker 3: might be able to say, look, my intention is to

892
00:48:39,735 --> 00:48:43,695
Speaker 3: formalize having a sublet in my on my ground floor.

893
00:48:44,375 --> 00:48:47,255
Speaker 3: What are the planning regulations? And then from there on

894
00:48:47,415 --> 00:48:51,295
Speaker 3: and if it's permissible, And council may not want to

895
00:48:51,415 --> 00:48:53,295
Speaker 3: answer that question, so you might have to go to

896
00:48:53,375 --> 00:48:56,135
Speaker 3: a planner or to a surveyor and ask that question.

897
00:48:56,215 --> 00:48:58,855
Speaker 3: And of then if they know the rules for the area,

898
00:48:59,175 --> 00:49:01,855
Speaker 3: they might say yes, it's permissible. Then you're off to

899
00:49:02,375 --> 00:49:05,615
Speaker 3: someone to draw up plans for that, submit the building consent.

900
00:49:05,895 --> 00:49:08,495
Speaker 3: Then it's restricted building work. So you've got to have

901
00:49:08,575 --> 00:49:12,615
Speaker 3: an LBP either do or supervise the work, undertake the work,

902
00:49:12,855 --> 00:49:15,535
Speaker 3: do the final inspection, do the CCC, and the can

903
00:49:15,615 --> 00:49:18,575
Speaker 3: go these your income.

904
00:49:19,935 --> 00:49:23,695
Speaker 18: Right, So building planner is that an architect or is

905
00:49:23,735 --> 00:49:24,575
Speaker 18: that a super.

906
00:49:25,975 --> 00:49:30,535
Speaker 3: So in order to submit plans like draw plans and

907
00:49:30,575 --> 00:49:33,895
Speaker 3: submit them to counsel, you have to be a design LBP. Now,

908
00:49:35,135 --> 00:49:39,855
Speaker 3: by default, all architects are design lbps in the same

909
00:49:39,895 --> 00:49:43,775
Speaker 3: way that architectural designers. So someone who's a member of

910
00:49:43,815 --> 00:49:48,775
Speaker 3: the New Zealand Institute of Architectural Draftsmen or Architectural Designers

911
00:49:49,415 --> 00:49:52,495
Speaker 3: will be one. But yes, so you have to have

912
00:49:52,535 --> 00:49:56,335
Speaker 3: a now under the new legislation not so new ten

913
00:49:56,375 --> 00:49:59,055
Speaker 3: to fifteen years, you've got to be a design LBP

914
00:49:59,215 --> 00:50:02,615
Speaker 3: in order to submit plans. And the reason that that's

915
00:50:02,735 --> 00:50:05,815
Speaker 3: kind of interesting is that back in the day, anyone

916
00:50:05,935 --> 00:50:08,815
Speaker 3: could plans as long as the plans were up to standard,

917
00:50:09,615 --> 00:50:12,655
Speaker 3: and it wasn't uncommon to work with people who were

918
00:50:12,695 --> 00:50:14,975
Speaker 3: builders who would also do their own plans. And that's

919
00:50:15,055 --> 00:50:18,935
Speaker 3: a little bit uncommon these days. So there's a few

920
00:50:19,615 --> 00:50:21,095
Speaker 3: hurdles to jump over.

921
00:50:21,975 --> 00:50:24,215
Speaker 18: There are Well, that's pretty helpful, thank you for.

922
00:50:24,975 --> 00:50:27,615
Speaker 3: Yeah, all the very best. You take it over them.

923
00:50:28,695 --> 00:50:33,575
Speaker 3: That's one of those things that it's like funny, I've

924
00:50:33,615 --> 00:50:35,975
Speaker 3: been to a couple of places, you know, sort of

925
00:50:36,055 --> 00:50:38,455
Speaker 3: pre purchased inspections and that sort of thing, and you're

926
00:50:38,495 --> 00:50:40,535
Speaker 3: looking around and someone will say, oh, yeah, and we've

927
00:50:40,575 --> 00:50:43,335
Speaker 3: got this little flat downstairs and you know, we get

928
00:50:43,455 --> 00:50:45,015
Speaker 3: three hundred bucks a week for it, et cetera. And

929
00:50:45,055 --> 00:50:48,495
Speaker 3: then you go, so is that actually compliant in terms

930
00:50:48,535 --> 00:50:52,455
Speaker 3: of was it designed to be a sublet or if

931
00:50:52,455 --> 00:50:54,655
Speaker 3: you just added you know, you might have a big

932
00:50:55,015 --> 00:50:57,255
Speaker 3: bedroom and a rumpus room downstairs and it happened to

933
00:50:57,295 --> 00:50:59,495
Speaker 3: have an on sweet and then you plug in a

934
00:50:59,815 --> 00:51:01,615
Speaker 3: pop and a sink in the corner and add a

935
00:51:01,655 --> 00:51:04,375
Speaker 3: little cooker and hey, presto, there's our sublet. And that's

936
00:51:04,735 --> 00:51:09,735
Speaker 3: typically if that's the case, that's not compliant. So if

937
00:51:09,775 --> 00:51:11,975
Speaker 3: you're looking at them, they're either compliant or they're not.

938
00:51:12,295 --> 00:51:14,455
Speaker 3: Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to

939
00:51:14,495 --> 00:51:25,535
Speaker 3: call ah interesting one. Oh here we go. So we're

940
00:51:25,575 --> 00:51:32,815
Speaker 3: talking about we're talking about the electrical work that was

941
00:51:32,855 --> 00:51:36,255
Speaker 3: done by someone who texts and someone's just sent through,

942
00:51:36,335 --> 00:51:39,815
Speaker 3: Hey Pete, I've just had three separate electrical jobs done.

943
00:51:40,375 --> 00:51:44,135
Speaker 3: All were issued as coc by email. Okay, so that's

944
00:51:44,175 --> 00:51:46,255
Speaker 3: the new way of doing it as well. Used to

945
00:51:46,295 --> 00:51:49,935
Speaker 3: be on triplicate form. Obviously, these days, digitally you can

946
00:51:49,975 --> 00:51:52,215
Speaker 3: do it as well. The interesting thing with that comment

947
00:51:52,375 --> 00:51:57,975
Speaker 3: via the text is that the person did the electrician

948
00:51:58,055 --> 00:52:01,375
Speaker 3: did issue a COC and I my understand, and then

949
00:52:01,455 --> 00:52:03,975
Speaker 3: someone else's text through Hey, Pete, I thought a COC

950
00:52:04,255 --> 00:52:06,335
Speaker 3: was only required to be issued by an independent and

951
00:52:06,735 --> 00:52:09,575
Speaker 3: when a building consent was involved, would an electrician just

952
00:52:09,655 --> 00:52:12,935
Speaker 3: not issue a PS four? Electricians don't issue PS fours

953
00:52:13,215 --> 00:52:17,775
Speaker 3: that I even for work that I've had done by

954
00:52:17,815 --> 00:52:21,935
Speaker 3: an electrician that doesn't wasn't done with a building consent,

955
00:52:22,375 --> 00:52:26,095
Speaker 3: they have still issued me COC and I think that's

956
00:52:26,095 --> 00:52:29,215
Speaker 3: standard practice. I'll find out. Oh eight hundred eighty ten

957
00:52:29,255 --> 00:52:30,775
Speaker 3: eighty is the number. We've got a couple of spare

958
00:52:30,815 --> 00:52:35,495
Speaker 3: lines for those who might be supporting Albania. You would

959
00:52:35,535 --> 00:52:38,895
Speaker 3: have got very excited with the opening of the euro

960
00:52:39,135 --> 00:52:41,535
Speaker 3: match that's on at the moment, when Albania shocked the

961
00:52:41,655 --> 00:52:46,615
Speaker 3: world by going one nil up over Italy. But anyway,

962
00:52:46,695 --> 00:52:48,775
Speaker 3: Italy are two one up at the moment, and you

963
00:52:48,855 --> 00:52:50,695
Speaker 3: can see this being a big score for Italy. But

964
00:52:51,375 --> 00:52:54,055
Speaker 3: they looked a little surprised when the Albanians went one

965
00:52:54,175 --> 00:52:56,135
Speaker 3: nil up within the first four minutes of the game.

966
00:52:56,575 --> 00:52:58,815
Speaker 3: Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

967
00:52:59,375 --> 00:53:01,455
Speaker 2: Squeaky door or Squeaky floored.

968
00:53:01,975 --> 00:53:05,375
Speaker 1: Get the right advice from Beata Walcam the resident builder

969
00:53:05,615 --> 00:53:09,375
Speaker 1: with late Solar now offering a free battery upgrade decencies

970
00:53:09,415 --> 00:53:10,815
Speaker 1: a way news dogs be.

971
00:53:12,375 --> 00:53:14,495
Speaker 3: Just on the electrical And who was I gos? I

972
00:53:14,535 --> 00:53:15,935
Speaker 3: was talking to someone the other day. It might have

973
00:53:15,975 --> 00:53:19,255
Speaker 3: been at Field Days actually who was an electrician, And

974
00:53:20,335 --> 00:53:24,535
Speaker 3: I said, look, I'm happy to comment on electrical matters,

975
00:53:24,575 --> 00:53:27,735
Speaker 3: but I do hasten to point out the fact that

976
00:53:27,815 --> 00:53:31,895
Speaker 3: I'm obviously not a registered electrician, and that I'm trying

977
00:53:32,015 --> 00:53:35,375
Speaker 3: to restrain my comments to things that I know something about.

978
00:53:35,415 --> 00:53:39,335
Speaker 3: But ultimately it's a very specialist task. And if in

979
00:53:39,455 --> 00:53:43,695
Speaker 3: any doubt, because of the safety issues around electricity and

980
00:53:43,735 --> 00:53:47,175
Speaker 3: the horrible things that can go wrong, you should always

981
00:53:47,215 --> 00:53:50,935
Speaker 3: be using a registered electrician. And this might apply to

982
00:53:51,015 --> 00:53:54,255
Speaker 3: the person that's just text as well. My electrics keep

983
00:53:54,335 --> 00:53:58,255
Speaker 3: turning off after a few minutes. The kettle boils, turns off,

984
00:53:58,335 --> 00:54:01,415
Speaker 3: then won't restart. Sounds like an expense. Now, it depends

985
00:54:01,455 --> 00:54:03,775
Speaker 3: on whether it's is it a problem with the kettle

986
00:54:03,895 --> 00:54:09,295
Speaker 3: or is the kettle overloading the circuit and the circuit

987
00:54:09,455 --> 00:54:13,255
Speaker 3: or the breaker on the board is tripping out, which

988
00:54:13,295 --> 00:54:18,095
Speaker 3: it shouldn't. Just for a kettle either way, if you've

989
00:54:18,215 --> 00:54:20,815
Speaker 3: just moved and if you own it, I would suggest,

990
00:54:21,135 --> 00:54:23,975
Speaker 3: in fact, what I would suggest for anyone who's maybe

991
00:54:24,215 --> 00:54:27,495
Speaker 3: moving into a new house or you've purchased a property

992
00:54:27,495 --> 00:54:30,415
Speaker 3: and you don't know who's worked on the property and

993
00:54:30,735 --> 00:54:32,815
Speaker 3: all the rest of it is actually get an electrician

994
00:54:32,975 --> 00:54:36,575
Speaker 3: in a registered electrician, ideally an electrical inspector, which is

995
00:54:36,655 --> 00:54:39,095
Speaker 3: kind of the next step up, and get them to

996
00:54:39,175 --> 00:54:42,895
Speaker 3: come through and test the house because there are fantastic

997
00:54:43,615 --> 00:54:48,055
Speaker 3: testing equipment that they have that can identify a fault

998
00:54:48,495 --> 00:54:53,095
Speaker 3: that might in the future cause, you know, a fire

999
00:54:53,255 --> 00:54:55,455
Speaker 3: or something like that. So you can have your whole

1000
00:54:55,495 --> 00:54:58,615
Speaker 3: house tested by an electrical inspector. And I think that

1001
00:54:58,655 --> 00:55:03,055
Speaker 3: would actually be money well spent, oh eight hundred eight.

1002
00:55:03,135 --> 00:55:05,615
Speaker 3: And for the person who's got the kettle, if that's

1003
00:55:05,855 --> 00:55:08,455
Speaker 3: tripping the board, then yes, I would get an electrician

1004
00:55:08,495 --> 00:55:11,015
Speaker 3: to come and check that as well. Oh eight hundred

1005
00:55:11,015 --> 00:55:17,735
Speaker 3: and eighty ten eighty. Hello they're headley, Oh goody, I

1006
00:55:17,775 --> 00:55:19,375
Speaker 3: don't have a question, I have information.

1007
00:55:20,975 --> 00:55:25,895
Speaker 19: I'm an electrical inspector. Awesome, So your man that's installed

1008
00:55:25,975 --> 00:55:30,255
Speaker 19: the bathroom fan. He if any instant, any electrical work

1009
00:55:30,295 --> 00:55:33,135
Speaker 19: that requires a running of cables or relocating things or

1010
00:55:33,255 --> 00:55:37,215
Speaker 19: anything like that has to have a COC issued and

1011
00:55:38,015 --> 00:55:40,095
Speaker 19: when it's completed in love, and it has to have

1012
00:55:40,135 --> 00:55:41,655
Speaker 19: an electrical safety certificate.

1013
00:55:42,815 --> 00:55:46,655
Speaker 3: Any stock, Yeah, yep, and no not only stock.

1014
00:55:46,735 --> 00:55:49,055
Speaker 19: That's a completely separate thing. And that's too big for

1015
00:55:49,135 --> 00:55:52,935
Speaker 19: this session. Okay, elect an electrical safety certificate. If I

1016
00:55:53,095 --> 00:55:56,535
Speaker 19: replace a light switch, an electrical safety certificate, ifire replace

1017
00:55:56,615 --> 00:56:01,295
Speaker 19: of PowerPoint and electrical safety certificate. So you must do

1018
00:56:01,495 --> 00:56:03,815
Speaker 19: that paperwork, and you must give it to the person

1019
00:56:03,855 --> 00:56:08,335
Speaker 19: who contracted you to do the work. If you don't

1020
00:56:08,655 --> 00:56:12,935
Speaker 19: give that paperwork, you've committed two offenses, failing to certify

1021
00:56:13,055 --> 00:56:15,975
Speaker 19: and failing to provide the document. So you're in trouble already.

1022
00:56:17,535 --> 00:56:20,055
Speaker 19: The fans not being vented to the outside. It's probably

1023
00:56:20,095 --> 00:56:23,335
Speaker 19: not an electrical problem, but most certainly, and it would

1024
00:56:23,335 --> 00:56:24,575
Speaker 19: be a breach of the building code.

1025
00:56:24,895 --> 00:56:26,895
Speaker 3: Well, it speaks to poor workmanship, doesn't it.

1026
00:56:27,855 --> 00:56:31,855
Speaker 19: Absolutely. There are also boxes on the COOC to tick,

1027
00:56:32,375 --> 00:56:35,535
Speaker 19: and one of those boxes is in relation to complying

1028
00:56:35,575 --> 00:56:40,815
Speaker 19: with manufacturers instructions right, and most manufacturers instructions for a

1029
00:56:41,455 --> 00:56:44,615
Speaker 19: for a fan probably say things like stick it out

1030
00:56:44,695 --> 00:56:47,135
Speaker 19: through this, defeat all of you know whatever the roof.

1031
00:56:47,735 --> 00:56:50,255
Speaker 19: You know, just vending them into the sailing space was

1032
00:56:50,335 --> 00:56:52,535
Speaker 19: like thirty years ago, no longer acceptable.

1033
00:56:52,935 --> 00:56:56,095
Speaker 3: But is there any electrical I'm just thinking about practical

1034
00:56:56,175 --> 00:56:58,215
Speaker 3: things that you might call an electrician in to do.

1035
00:56:58,535 --> 00:57:01,575
Speaker 3: Is there any work at all where an electrician would

1036
00:57:01,575 --> 00:57:04,855
Speaker 3: do the work but not be expected to issue a COEC,

1037
00:57:05,375 --> 00:57:07,735
Speaker 3: which is a certificate of compliance, isn't it?

1038
00:57:09,015 --> 00:57:11,855
Speaker 19: Yeah, the typical compliance actually requires you to do some

1039
00:57:12,015 --> 00:57:15,135
Speaker 19: physical work. The only thing that you probably would get

1040
00:57:15,175 --> 00:57:17,615
Speaker 19: away with not certifying would be if you just went

1041
00:57:17,695 --> 00:57:18,535
Speaker 19: in and did testing.

1042
00:57:19,095 --> 00:57:19,855
Speaker 3: Okay, so you went.

1043
00:57:20,935 --> 00:57:28,175
Speaker 19: But there's another document called a certificate verification, which is

1044
00:57:28,215 --> 00:57:31,255
Speaker 19: typically issued when you want to relive on a property

1045
00:57:31,255 --> 00:57:33,095
Speaker 19: after it's been turned off for more than six months.

1046
00:57:33,655 --> 00:57:36,175
Speaker 19: But you can get an electrician to do a certificate

1047
00:57:36,175 --> 00:57:40,015
Speaker 19: of verification at any time, and you can get an

1048
00:57:40,055 --> 00:57:42,735
Speaker 19: inspector to do one as well. And a certificate verification

1049
00:57:43,895 --> 00:57:47,935
Speaker 19: has several levels. There are several sort of sections of

1050
00:57:48,095 --> 00:57:52,735
Speaker 19: the standard that you do them under, so ranges from

1051
00:57:52,775 --> 00:57:57,535
Speaker 19: having has got to look at it to you know,

1052
00:57:57,695 --> 00:58:00,415
Speaker 19: like a visual inspection, and then there's kind of a

1053
00:58:00,455 --> 00:58:03,575
Speaker 19: physical inspection, and then there's a testing inspection. So there's

1054
00:58:03,615 --> 00:58:07,415
Speaker 19: three different layers. You can go to bed and but

1055
00:58:07,535 --> 00:58:08,695
Speaker 19: you issue a certificate of.

1056
00:58:08,775 --> 00:58:14,215
Speaker 3: Verification, right, I'm just thinking in terms of practical terms.

1057
00:58:14,255 --> 00:58:17,335
Speaker 3: People like a story that people might relate to. Let's

1058
00:58:17,335 --> 00:58:22,095
Speaker 3: say you've got the old, old fashioned incandescent down lights

1059
00:58:22,175 --> 00:58:26,375
Speaker 3: right circa nineteen ninety and so you decide, I'm going

1060
00:58:26,415 --> 00:58:31,255
Speaker 3: to upgrade those and put in new energy efficient LED replacements,

1061
00:58:32,615 --> 00:58:34,935
Speaker 3: so no building work required, but I'm going to take

1062
00:58:35,015 --> 00:58:38,735
Speaker 3: out that old incandescent fitting and replace it. You do

1063
00:58:38,895 --> 00:58:44,575
Speaker 3: that work. It's relatively straightforward, I guess would that work automate?

1064
00:58:44,655 --> 00:58:47,575
Speaker 3: You would expect a COC from the electrician for that.

1065
00:58:47,655 --> 00:58:52,655
Speaker 19: Work, and most likely just electrical safety.

1066
00:58:52,375 --> 00:58:54,095
Speaker 3: Certificate, right, okay.

1067
00:58:54,775 --> 00:58:57,215
Speaker 19: Which is if you look at a COC if you've

1068
00:58:57,215 --> 00:58:59,695
Speaker 19: ever seen the triple get one. Yep, the bottom seach

1069
00:58:59,775 --> 00:59:02,135
Speaker 19: and the bottom two inches or so. Yes, the electrical

1070
00:59:02,255 --> 00:59:04,855
Speaker 19: safety certificate part of it. So you're filling everything else,

1071
00:59:05,215 --> 00:59:07,215
Speaker 19: but you have to sign the bottom but the electrical

1072
00:59:07,295 --> 00:59:12,015
Speaker 19: safe testificate because you haven't done any you haven't run

1073
00:59:12,015 --> 00:59:15,895
Speaker 19: any cables. What you've done is replaced fittings. Yes, and

1074
00:59:16,015 --> 00:59:19,655
Speaker 19: that makes it that's low risk work. And the only

1075
00:59:19,735 --> 00:59:24,375
Speaker 19: work that requires inspection with the capital is high risk

1076
00:59:24,455 --> 00:59:29,535
Speaker 19: work which is relating to mainz and main earthing systems. So,

1077
00:59:30,255 --> 00:59:36,655
Speaker 19: but typically your inspectors responsibilities for a new build or

1078
00:59:37,735 --> 00:59:40,695
Speaker 19: stop at the main switch in the main switchboard. He's

1079
00:59:40,935 --> 00:59:43,535
Speaker 19: the inspector is only required to inspect the mains in

1080
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Speaker 19: the main earthing system. That's that's kind of his remit.

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Speaker 19: There After that, the electrician self certifies exactly the same

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Speaker 19: as the gaft fitter or the or the plumber. But

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Speaker 19: if if the guy has done the work, I would

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Speaker 19: ring him and offer him the opportunity to remedy.

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Speaker 14: For work.

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Speaker 19: That and then for your refuses, and he won't give

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Speaker 19: you paperwork your avenue of complaints to the electric work

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Speaker 19: as a registration board, and they'll be only too happy

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Speaker 19: to come along and you know, Tip's pockets out and

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Speaker 19: give my good telling off. But you must offered him

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Speaker 19: the opportunity to rectify.

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Speaker 3: That would be the smart hope, wouldn't it.

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Speaker 19: I know, I know circumstances where where the customers come

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Speaker 19: back to the electricians said they want their money back,

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Speaker 19: and he said no, I'll come and fix it. And

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Speaker 19: you know, it didn't go well for the customer in

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Speaker 19: the head didn't go so good for the electrician either,

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Speaker 19: because he knew he'd made a mistake, but he wasn't

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Speaker 19: going to be you.

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Speaker 7: Know, blackmail.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, fair enough too. No, No, I mean again, I

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Speaker 3: think it's pretty clear. And most electricians, you would hope

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Speaker 3: they're aware of what their you know, requirements, legal requirements

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Speaker 3: are and they should comply with you know, I suppose

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Speaker 3: what it is is that you're given a great deal

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Speaker 3: of responsibility and of being able to self certify right,

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Speaker 3: and so given that people are entrusting you with that,

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Speaker 3: and that your training and professionalism would say that you're

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Speaker 3: up to the standard, then it must be disappointing within

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Speaker 3: the industry where you see people within the industry letting

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Speaker 3: down those standards.

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Speaker 19: Oh yeah, I mean I've been doing this for forty years,

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Speaker 19: speak of a more than tweety and I haven't had

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Speaker 19: much need to complain about people. But a few people

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Speaker 19: I have complained about, you know, they learn the lesson,

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Speaker 19: I hope.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, good good. I really appreciate you phoning through all

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Speaker 3: the very best you headly take care by I think

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Speaker 3: so hopefully that was reasonably clear. So there's COCs, which

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Speaker 3: is a certificate of compliance with relation to electrical work,

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Speaker 3: and then there's an electrical Safety Certificate as well, and

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Speaker 3: there in some cases they're the same thing, but they're

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Speaker 3: also separate things, and one might be issued with the

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Speaker 3: other or issued separately. And then the point about the

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Speaker 3: requirement to have an electrical inspector. Typically, if you think

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Speaker 3: about like if you're changing the distribution board at home,

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Speaker 3: maybe you've got an old board. You're doing some renovations

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Speaker 3: or some extensions, and as part of that work you

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Speaker 3: end up taking out the old board. It might still

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Speaker 3: have fuse wires in it, you know, and I've been

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Speaker 3: in plenty of houses where the old board is still there.

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Speaker 3: Let's say you're upgrading the board, which also means that

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Speaker 3: you've got a new connection to the mains because you'll

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Speaker 3: have to disconnect the mains while the board comes out.

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Speaker 3: That work then typically is the inspected by an electrical

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Speaker 3: inspector who is not the electrician who has done the work.

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Speaker 3: So there's those checks and balances in the system as well. Oh,

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Speaker 3: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty we're talking all things

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Speaker 3: building construction, and you know, happy to talk about sort

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Speaker 3: of other parts of the building world, let's say, in

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Speaker 3: terms of electrical and plumbing and that sort of thing.

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Speaker 3: But fully accepting the fact that I'm not a registered electrician,

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Speaker 3: but I guess as part of the project management of

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Speaker 3: a job, typically you end up being engaged with all

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Speaker 3: of these other trades as well to get the job done.

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Speaker 3: I W eight hundred eighty ten eighty the number to call.

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Speaker 3: We've got a spare line for the first time this morning,

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Speaker 3: So if you've got a question, call us right now.

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Speaker 3: I eight hundred eighty ten.

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Speaker 1: Eighty helping you get those DIY projects done.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: The resident builder with Peter Wolfcap and Light four Solar

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Speaker 1: offering affordable solar solutions used TALKSB a couple.

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Speaker 3: Of quick texts before we talk to Chris Electricians. We

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Speaker 3: are not permitted to withhold a COC because the bill

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Speaker 3: has not been paid. We're obliged to issue it on completion.

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Speaker 3: That's from Howard. I think, thank you very much for that, Howard.

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Speaker 3: And it's true for LBPS as well. So you know

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Speaker 3: I'm a carpentry LBP, right, so if I do restricted

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Speaker 3: building work, the requirement is that I issue a record

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Speaker 3: of works or a memorandum to describe the work and

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Speaker 3: to state that it complies with the building code. And

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Speaker 3: I must do that as soon as I finish the work.

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Speaker 3: And I can't withhold it, let's say, because I'm worried

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Speaker 3: that I won't get paid by the client. So when

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Speaker 3: the work is done, you're expected to issue the either

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Speaker 3: record of work, all those sorts of things, you can't

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Speaker 3: withhold it. I do know one instance where a guy,

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Speaker 3: it was building related work, it was LBP, he was

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Speaker 3: an LBP. He needed to assue a record of work.

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Speaker 3: He had a sense that the client was not going

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Speaker 3: to pay the final invoice, right, so there'd been some changes,

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Speaker 3: there are a few extras, And he did the work

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Speaker 3: and said I'll give you the record of work when

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Speaker 3: I've been paid, didn't get paid, refused to issue the

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Speaker 3: record of work. The client took him to the disciplinary board,

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Speaker 3: and the disciplinary board find him two thousand dollars. The

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Speaker 3: irony of that is the final invoice was about two

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Speaker 3: thousand dollars as well. So yeah, it might seem unfair,

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Speaker 3: but the reality is, if you're an LVP or in

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Speaker 3: this case electricians and so on and you're expected to

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Speaker 3: issue documentation about compliance of your work. You must, regardless

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Speaker 3: of whether or not you've been paid. Quick text as well,

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Speaker 3: what are the rules for older houses in Auckland having

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Speaker 3: insulation and double glazing? I'm a tenant and the house

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Speaker 3: is cold, Okay, Well, in a nutshell, your landlord should

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Speaker 3: there should have been when you signed your residential tendency

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Speaker 3: agreement a healthy home certificate attached to that, and to

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Speaker 3: rent out a property now you have to comply with

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Speaker 3: healthy homes requirements in terms of insulation, that is that

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Speaker 3: there needs to be insula in accessible ceiling and subfloor spaces.

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Speaker 2: That's it.

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Speaker 3: So if, for example, it's a skillion roof and you

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Speaker 3: can't get into it, then there's no requirement to add

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Speaker 3: insulation there. If it's not there already, if it's inaccessible

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Speaker 3: subfloor space or a concrete slab, you can't do anything

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Speaker 3: about that. Double glazing is not required. Draft proofing reasonable

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Speaker 3: draft proofing is a fixed form of heating, is a requirement,

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Speaker 3: so I think Sarah, for you, the first thing to

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Speaker 3: do is to go back and check that when you

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Speaker 3: signed your residential tendency agreement that it did have a

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Speaker 3: healthy home certificate attached to it. If it didn't, I'd

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Speaker 3: either be talking to the property manager or to the

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Speaker 3: landlord about why that wasn't available. And then I guess

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Speaker 3: you could also look whether or not that healthy home

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Speaker 3: standard is in fact correct or has it simply been

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Speaker 3: issued by someone who's kind of incohoots with a property

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Speaker 3: manager or the landlord to issue a false statement. It's unlikely,

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Speaker 3: but it's possible. Interesting to note too, just briefly, that

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Speaker 3: government decided not to go ahead with proposed legislation to

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Speaker 3: register property managers. So they've been quite a lot of

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Speaker 3: work done by previous administration to introduce a basically a

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Speaker 3: qualification regime and a registration of property managers. Because right

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Speaker 3: now anyone can start up business as a property manager,

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Speaker 3: and while there are guidelines, there's no requirement to actually

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Speaker 3: stand by those guidelines, right but National and their wisdom

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Speaker 3: have said, no, we're not going to go ahead with that.

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Speaker 3: Interesting to your get your thoughts on that. Actually, oh

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Speaker 3: eight hundred eighty ten eighty the number to call Chris, Hello.

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Speaker 17: There, got a query. But problem Actually we've got with

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Speaker 17: a retaining wall. It's found the back of the house

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Speaker 17: and it's supportable section so it drops away from the house.

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Speaker 17: Reasonable size, I'm not sure six or seven meters high?

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Speaker 3: Sorry, just I want to be absolutely clear. The retaining

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Speaker 3: wall is six or seven meters high, yes, yeah.

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Speaker 17: Quite quite tall, it's yeah. And it's made out of wooden,

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Speaker 17: you know, it's like wooden crimp. Yes, not concrete, surprise that.

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Speaker 17: And it's got a bow in it. It's got running

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Speaker 17: running through it, the storm water and sewerage, and it's

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Speaker 17: also got an easy on the property coming over some

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Speaker 17: perendicular to the road, down through the property and then

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Speaker 17: along along the retainable ametha back end from the retaining wall,

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Speaker 17: but buried there's a council.

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Speaker 7: Water.

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Speaker 17: There's water running through there up on the street. There's

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Speaker 17: pity of water running parallel to the road, but there's

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Speaker 17: an easement and running off the road and through their property.

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Speaker 17: There's also water which runs down to other properties.

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Speaker 3: I presume when you say water running is the storm

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Speaker 3: water or is the main supply?

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Speaker 17: Main supply is blue wine, blue line. The council don't

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Speaker 17: want to know anything about the bulge, and so we're

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Speaker 17: still sort of working through that. I suppose. My first

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Speaker 17: question is about remedying whether a remedy for it is

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Speaker 17: to sort of another retaining wall in front of what's

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Speaker 17: already there, or is the best practice to take out

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Speaker 17: the wall and replace the war.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I would imagine that. The one of the questions

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01:10:30,215 --> 01:10:34,855
Speaker 3: then would be is there sufficient space, let's say, downhill

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01:10:34,935 --> 01:10:38,375
Speaker 3: from the existing wall, to build a new retaining wall

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Speaker 3: that would still be on your property.

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Speaker 17: I'm not exactly sure the boundary I would probably imagine not,

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Speaker 17: but the land below us is council land.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but you still you can't build on their land,

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Speaker 3: I would have thought without either express permission from them,

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Speaker 3: in which case then you would have to get an

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Speaker 3: easement on their title for their land. And you can

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01:11:07,695 --> 01:11:10,815
Speaker 3: imagine that's not going to happen. So in terms of

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Speaker 3: practical solutions for remediating that, because you know, given the

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Speaker 3: height of it, and it's bulging, right, and it wasn't

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Speaker 3: designed to bulge, So if it was straight once and

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Speaker 3: it's bent now, that's not a good sign with a

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Speaker 3: six meter high retaining wall. The engineering involved in that

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Speaker 3: because obviously the land that it's supporting, right, so the

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Speaker 3: land behind the retaining wall, is any of that supporting

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Speaker 3: the house that you're in.

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Speaker 17: The house is about I think it's about eight meters.

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Speaker 11: Back, so it is.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, so it's getting close. I mean typically a

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Speaker 3: line of inference would be at forty five degrees from

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Speaker 3: the base of the wall, right, So I at six

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Speaker 3: meters high, you go back six meters, that's about forty

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Speaker 3: five degrees. You know, anything on top of that in

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Speaker 3: that area and that triangle would be loading up on

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Speaker 3: the wall. So your house is set back slightly more

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01:12:08,735 --> 01:12:11,375
Speaker 3: than that. But again I think any engineer looking at

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Speaker 3: it would say, well, actually, that retaining wall, should it fail,

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01:12:15,015 --> 01:12:19,455
Speaker 3: is likely to undermine your house, in which case the

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Speaker 3: engineering of that wall would be extensive, right, And if

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Speaker 3: it's on your property, my understanding is it is your responsibility.

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Speaker 3: It's a fairly significant wall. Getting an engineer, most of

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01:12:37,415 --> 01:12:40,455
Speaker 3: whom are risk averse, they will design something for you

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Speaker 3: that will rival the Hoover Dam in its scale, and

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Speaker 3: the number of zeros at the end of that project

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Speaker 3: could be quite extensive. So I can understand in this

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Speaker 3: instance why perhaps counsel are saying it's not our responsibility.

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Speaker 3: And given it's not on their land, it might be

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Speaker 3: interesting to talk to a lot about you know, if

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Speaker 3: there's an easement, right, and other people have the benefit

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01:13:11,575 --> 01:13:16,095
Speaker 3: of the passageway through your property for their services. Whether

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01:13:16,175 --> 01:13:19,095
Speaker 3: you could then go back and ask them to contribute

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01:13:19,655 --> 01:13:22,495
Speaker 3: because obviously if the retaining wall fails, it will it

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01:13:22,535 --> 01:13:25,055
Speaker 3: will damage all of those services, right, which means it

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01:13:25,135 --> 01:13:27,535
Speaker 3: has an impact on a neighbor. So if a neighbor

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01:13:27,855 --> 01:13:30,855
Speaker 3: has the benefit of an easement, then maybe they could

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01:13:30,935 --> 01:13:35,615
Speaker 3: contribute something to the cost of it. Look, I guess

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01:13:35,735 --> 01:13:39,735
Speaker 3: a planner then a geotechnical engineer is probably going to

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01:13:39,775 --> 01:13:43,095
Speaker 3: be a next steps in terms of remediation. But it's

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01:13:43,175 --> 01:13:47,455
Speaker 3: going that's that's a big wall and it's going to

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01:13:47,535 --> 01:13:50,415
Speaker 3: be a lot of work, and trust me, it'll be

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01:13:50,455 --> 01:13:51,135
Speaker 3: a lot of money.

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Speaker 17: Right, Yes, okay, you know.

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01:13:56,855 --> 01:14:00,455
Speaker 3: Could could you go to your insurer and say my

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01:14:00,575 --> 01:14:03,335
Speaker 3: retaining wall has collapsed or is endangered?

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01:14:04,535 --> 01:14:08,455
Speaker 17: Yeah, we are. We are talking with them, just trying

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01:14:08,535 --> 01:14:12,535
Speaker 17: to find out and really the counselor's involvement as well,

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01:14:14,135 --> 01:14:18,055
Speaker 17: because we were there all the time that an initial

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01:14:18,295 --> 01:14:22,935
Speaker 17: neighbor said that the section wasn't planned for our house.

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01:14:23,055 --> 01:14:28,815
Speaker 17: It was originally for the counsel to have this access

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01:14:28,895 --> 01:14:37,095
Speaker 17: going through, and then later in the development the developers

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01:14:37,135 --> 01:14:39,015
Speaker 17: are presumed. I not quite. You can't quite get the

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01:14:39,535 --> 01:14:44,175
Speaker 17: right decided that for the section there as well, And

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01:14:46,575 --> 01:14:50,655
Speaker 17: so yeah, I'm trying.

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Speaker 3: I wonder whether some of this, Yeah, is also going

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01:14:55,055 --> 01:14:58,775
Speaker 3: to be like an experienced property lawyer to act on

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01:14:58,895 --> 01:15:01,975
Speaker 3: your behalf, because I think if I would say that,

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01:15:02,095 --> 01:15:05,575
Speaker 3: if it seems to me that if counsel are deriving

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01:15:05,695 --> 01:15:08,775
Speaker 3: some benefit it right from the easement, they should then

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01:15:08,895 --> 01:15:12,575
Speaker 3: contribute to the cost of it, or you could use

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01:15:12,655 --> 01:15:16,655
Speaker 3: that as leverage, that would change things. Because the fact

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01:15:16,695 --> 01:15:20,695
Speaker 3: that there's an easement to provide services, so that's a

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01:15:20,735 --> 01:15:23,095
Speaker 3: benefit to someone else. I think you could use that

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01:15:23,255 --> 01:15:27,815
Speaker 3: to get a contribution from someone else. But it's I

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01:15:27,895 --> 01:15:31,815
Speaker 3: can imagine this is going to be a very involved process,

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01:15:33,455 --> 01:15:36,735
Speaker 3: and that's to try and understand who might be responsible,

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01:15:37,015 --> 01:15:39,615
Speaker 3: who could contribute, And then once you get into the

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01:15:39,695 --> 01:15:43,775
Speaker 3: actual engineering of it again, you know it's going to

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01:15:43,775 --> 01:15:46,415
Speaker 3: be a fairly significant wall that's going to go in

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01:15:46,535 --> 01:15:49,375
Speaker 3: there to replace it, and what's access like.

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Speaker 17: Access from the bottom will be fine, Okay, well, so

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01:15:54,935 --> 01:15:59,095
Speaker 17: long accounts and yes, and we can come around the

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01:15:59,175 --> 01:16:01,615
Speaker 17: sign in the honds to work from the top. Yeah,

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Speaker 17: but it should probably not should probably.

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Speaker 3: Okay, hey, look, there's a lot to try and dig

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01:16:12,375 --> 01:16:15,975
Speaker 3: through now, but pardon the punt, but yeah, good luck.

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Speaker 12: With it all.

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Speaker 17: And you suggested what was a property is lawyer?

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01:16:20,655 --> 01:16:20,695
Speaker 2: What?

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01:16:21,535 --> 01:16:23,855
Speaker 3: I guess it would be really good to have someone

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01:16:23,895 --> 01:16:26,095
Speaker 3: else look at the situation from a legal point of

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01:16:26,175 --> 01:16:31,575
Speaker 3: view to give you, especially because of the easement that's involved. Right,

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01:16:32,135 --> 01:16:36,975
Speaker 3: So for someone to review your property file, to look

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01:16:37,055 --> 01:16:41,455
Speaker 3: at the terms of the easement and to explain to

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01:16:41,575 --> 01:16:45,855
Speaker 3: you what whether or not there's any other someone else

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01:16:45,935 --> 01:16:48,255
Speaker 3: might have some liability for this as well, that's what

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01:16:48,335 --> 01:16:51,015
Speaker 3: you're looking for. And then if they do, could you

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01:16:51,175 --> 01:16:53,775
Speaker 3: then draw them in in terms of contributing to the

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01:16:53,815 --> 01:16:54,695
Speaker 3: cost of the repair.

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Speaker 11: Right.

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Speaker 17: I did go to the counselor to get the file

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01:17:00,015 --> 01:17:04,535
Speaker 17: or applied for our property and that seemed to be

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01:17:04,615 --> 01:17:08,575
Speaker 17: a bit difficult. So that star for the neighboring property

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01:17:08,655 --> 01:17:12,175
Speaker 17: because they've got the same right, they share the same war.

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Speaker 3: I was going to ask that actually, but they don't

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01:17:15,815 --> 01:17:16,375
Speaker 3: have them.

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Speaker 17: They don't have the easement issue. But I'm just trying

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01:17:19,695 --> 01:17:22,935
Speaker 17: to find a bit of history about yeah, how the

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01:17:23,015 --> 01:17:26,135
Speaker 17: wall got built because it awarded crid wall to me

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01:17:26,295 --> 01:17:27,015
Speaker 17: seems a read it.

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Speaker 3: Well but again, you know, back in the day, it

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01:17:31,615 --> 01:17:34,775
Speaker 3: might be thirty forty years ago. I do remember seeing

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01:17:34,895 --> 01:17:40,215
Speaker 3: them being built, and perhaps today they wouldn't get approval,

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01:17:40,615 --> 01:17:43,015
Speaker 3: but I suspect that at that time it would have

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01:17:43,055 --> 01:17:45,375
Speaker 3: got approval. And then what would be interesting too, is

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01:17:45,775 --> 01:17:47,975
Speaker 3: if it did get approval and it had let's say

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Speaker 3: a maximum a minimum life span. Let's say there was

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01:17:51,895 --> 01:17:55,815
Speaker 3: a building consent issued for that work and the expectation

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01:17:56,015 --> 01:17:59,095
Speaker 3: is that it would be it would have a lifespan

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Speaker 3: of twenty years. Then you're probably outside of that. Let's

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01:18:02,015 --> 01:18:03,935
Speaker 3: say it had a lifespan of fifty years. Then you

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01:18:04,015 --> 01:18:09,295
Speaker 3: could go, well, actually might then they've issued the consent,

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Speaker 3: they've said that it's going to last fifty years, they've

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Speaker 3: accepted it. If it all got signed off and now

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Speaker 3: it has failed within that time period, again, could you

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01:18:17,815 --> 01:18:19,895
Speaker 3: get them to have a you know, could you get

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01:18:19,975 --> 01:18:22,895
Speaker 3: them to contribute all of which is legal? Right, So

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01:18:23,175 --> 01:18:25,415
Speaker 3: I think the next step is probably going to be

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01:18:26,015 --> 01:18:29,895
Speaker 3: spend a bit of money with the lawyer. Yeah, good luck,

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01:18:29,975 --> 01:18:32,855
Speaker 3: christ all the very best. You take care and let

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01:18:32,935 --> 01:18:34,375
Speaker 3: us know how you get on. I'll give you an

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01:18:34,455 --> 01:18:37,615
Speaker 3: update on our last week's retaining will story straight after

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01:18:37,655 --> 01:18:38,175
Speaker 3: the break.

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Speaker 2: Measured twice, God once, but maybe call Peid first.

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01:18:42,735 --> 01:18:46,535
Speaker 1: Peter Wolfgav the resident builder with Light four Solar now

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01:18:46,615 --> 01:18:48,975
Speaker 1: offering a free battery upgrade seas in seed the.

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01:18:48,975 --> 01:18:51,015
Speaker 2: Playing us dogs. I'll tell you what.

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01:18:51,055 --> 01:18:53,015
Speaker 3: I'll give you an update on the retaining will story

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01:18:53,135 --> 01:18:56,055
Speaker 3: after the news that. We'll talk to Tracy first. Hello, Tracy.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, I'm just curious.

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01:19:01,935 --> 01:19:06,295
Speaker 20: When tig Or was given the opportunity they got given extra.

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01:19:06,135 --> 01:19:10,655
Speaker 3: Time to do their healthy owns plants yeap.

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Speaker 20: Healthy climate, Yes, with all apply to providers that they

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01:19:15,055 --> 01:19:19,895
Speaker 20: sold properties do to back in twenty sixteen, seventeen?

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Speaker 3: No Ah, Oh, that's a very good question. So what

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01:19:24,935 --> 01:19:26,855
Speaker 3: you're saying is, let's say there's an old kayn or

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01:19:26,975 --> 01:19:30,455
Speaker 3: a house it's been sold to not a private individual,

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01:19:30,535 --> 01:19:35,335
Speaker 3: but a community housing network type group. Do they also

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01:19:35,495 --> 01:19:43,615
Speaker 3: get that extension? I suspect that they probably do, but

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01:19:43,975 --> 01:19:47,655
Speaker 3: that extension is rapidly running out. I think we're talking

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty five, isn't it.

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Speaker 20: Yeah, well there's where I'm talking. We're talking twelve houses, yep,

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01:19:55,935 --> 01:20:01,535
Speaker 20: just in complete that basically the original leaky homes they

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01:20:01,575 --> 01:20:05,815
Speaker 20: were built in eighty six, so before anyone started building

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01:20:05,895 --> 01:20:13,695
Speaker 20: with the chains hardy product. These houses built as press tapes, yep.

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01:20:13,975 --> 01:20:19,775
Speaker 20: So it's pretty sad that they're still standing, Right's shocking

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01:20:20,295 --> 01:20:23,295
Speaker 20: the abs that you're rotten, you know. And I believe

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01:20:23,375 --> 01:20:26,295
Speaker 20: they won't pull them down because the second they take

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01:20:26,375 --> 01:20:29,615
Speaker 20: the cletting off that everyone's going to see what's behind.

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01:20:30,535 --> 01:20:32,855
Speaker 3: And that's quite and maybe what they'll do is they'll

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01:20:32,935 --> 01:20:36,135
Speaker 3: just say, well, look, we're just going to keep letting

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01:20:36,215 --> 01:20:38,535
Speaker 3: them because we don't have to comply with the healthy

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01:20:38,615 --> 01:20:41,415
Speaker 3: home standard until the day that we do, at which

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01:20:41,495 --> 01:20:44,535
Speaker 3: case we'll probably evict people and pull the houses down,

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01:20:46,775 --> 01:20:49,455
Speaker 3: which is not ideal. But you know, we're also in

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01:20:49,535 --> 01:20:53,175
Speaker 3: that space where there's a tension between you know, do

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01:20:53,255 --> 01:20:55,815
Speaker 3: we set a set of standards that exclude people from

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01:20:55,895 --> 01:20:58,415
Speaker 3: housing even if it's poor housing, given that we have

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01:20:58,535 --> 01:21:03,015
Speaker 3: such a huge demand for social housing, right so, you know,

1419
01:21:03,815 --> 01:21:06,335
Speaker 3: would you rather sleep in a car or sleep in

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01:21:06,375 --> 01:21:09,175
Speaker 3: the house that's not compliant? Probably want to be in

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01:21:09,215 --> 01:21:12,295
Speaker 3: a house that's not compliant, even if it's it's.

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01:21:12,135 --> 01:21:15,455
Speaker 21: Still you know, long term illnesses.

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01:21:15,615 --> 01:21:18,495
Speaker 3: Not I'm not ignoring that. I'm not ignoring that, but

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01:21:19,535 --> 01:21:21,415
Speaker 3: you know, I'm just raising that as an issue. I

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01:21:21,495 --> 01:21:24,135
Speaker 3: think there are some that would that would argue that, hey, look,

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01:21:25,215 --> 01:21:28,495
Speaker 3: you know, setting up a whole series of regulations around

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01:21:28,535 --> 01:21:31,855
Speaker 3: housing at the time of a housing crisis might not

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01:21:31,975 --> 01:21:33,695
Speaker 3: have been the best way to ensure that people have

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01:21:33,775 --> 01:21:35,975
Speaker 3: at least got somewhere to live, even if it's not great.

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01:21:36,015 --> 01:21:39,095
Speaker 3: And I'm a huge supporter of good housing for people. Right,

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01:21:39,175 --> 01:21:42,455
Speaker 3: I'm just being practical as well. Appreciate the comics, Tracy. Right,

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01:21:42,575 --> 01:21:44,415
Speaker 3: We'll give you an update on the retaining wall straight

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01:21:44,455 --> 01:21:47,295
Speaker 3: afternoons Sport and weather at eight and remember we're into

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01:21:47,335 --> 01:21:49,975
Speaker 3: the garden with a red cling past from eight point

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01:21:49,975 --> 01:21:51,215
Speaker 3: thirty this morning as well.

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01:21:56,615 --> 01:21:58,295
Speaker 2: Doing other house sorting the garden.

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01:21:58,415 --> 01:22:01,935
Speaker 1: Asked Pete for ahead the resident builder with Peter Wolfcamp

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01:22:02,015 --> 01:22:05,775
Speaker 1: and Light four Solar offering affordable solar solutions.

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01:22:07,935 --> 01:22:11,015
Speaker 3: Be welcome back to the program. Eight hundred and eighty

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01:22:11,095 --> 01:22:14,255
Speaker 3: ten eighty is the number to call an update on

1441
01:22:14,375 --> 01:22:18,495
Speaker 3: a story that we talked about, or a caller last

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01:22:18,535 --> 01:22:21,575
Speaker 3: week to the program around this time. Actually, Arian who

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01:22:22,375 --> 01:22:26,295
Speaker 3: lives in Auckland, I think on the north Shore, rang

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01:22:26,375 --> 01:22:29,135
Speaker 3: and said, look, I've got a retaining wall that's on

1445
01:22:29,255 --> 01:22:32,575
Speaker 3: the boundary. It's on my side of the boundary and

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01:22:32,695 --> 01:22:39,495
Speaker 3: it's collapsing and it borders a council reserve, and so

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01:22:39,615 --> 01:22:43,655
Speaker 3: I've gone to council to say, hey, look the wall's collapsing,

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01:22:44,855 --> 01:22:46,735
Speaker 3: you know, can you help out and they've said no,

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01:22:47,015 --> 01:22:49,415
Speaker 3: not our responsibility. It's on your side of the boundary.

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01:22:49,455 --> 01:22:51,895
Speaker 3: And to be fair, that was listening to the story

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01:22:52,015 --> 01:22:55,135
Speaker 3: last week, that's exactly what I thought would be the

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01:22:55,335 --> 01:22:58,255
Speaker 3: likely outcome. If it's on your side of the boundary,

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01:22:58,695 --> 01:23:03,455
Speaker 3: it's your wall, you as the homeowner, are responsible for it. However,

1454
01:23:03,575 --> 01:23:05,815
Speaker 3: these things are never as simple as they seem, and

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01:23:06,615 --> 01:23:10,255
Speaker 3: a mate who at the stage will just remain nameless,

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01:23:10,855 --> 01:23:13,815
Speaker 3: who's very experienced in this area, contacted me, flipped me

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01:23:13,855 --> 01:23:16,615
Speaker 3: a text while we were talking and said, hey, I

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01:23:16,695 --> 01:23:18,175
Speaker 3: could go and have a look at that. I've got

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01:23:18,215 --> 01:23:21,695
Speaker 3: some experience in this field. And he did, and I

1460
01:23:22,215 --> 01:23:24,855
Speaker 3: got an email from Rianne saying thank you very much.

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01:23:24,935 --> 01:23:29,095
Speaker 3: He was very helpful, very knowledgeable, very experienced. And there

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01:23:29,215 --> 01:23:32,495
Speaker 3: is more to the story, as in the reason that

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01:23:32,575 --> 01:23:35,055
Speaker 3: the retaining wall is collapsing is because the land, the

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01:23:35,175 --> 01:23:41,455
Speaker 3: council land is collapsing, is falling away, is eroding, and

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01:23:41,615 --> 01:23:47,695
Speaker 3: that's undermined the retaining wall of the private property, let's say, so,

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01:23:47,815 --> 01:23:49,895
Speaker 3: I think there's going to be a little bit more

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01:23:49,935 --> 01:23:53,335
Speaker 3: to the story over the next couple of months, and

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01:23:53,775 --> 01:23:56,615
Speaker 3: a geotech engineer is going to go out and investigate

1469
01:23:56,655 --> 01:23:58,135
Speaker 3: it as well. So if I get an update, I

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01:23:58,135 --> 01:24:00,095
Speaker 3: will let you know. Now, just prior to the news

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01:24:00,135 --> 01:24:03,175
Speaker 3: we were talking with Tracy, she mentioned ko or or

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01:24:04,055 --> 01:24:09,135
Speaker 3: houses and whether or not. So when Healthy Homes legislation

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01:24:09,295 --> 01:24:13,015
Speaker 3: came in, which was about twenty seventeen, and houses need

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01:24:13,135 --> 01:24:16,455
Speaker 3: to be compliant from about twenty nineteen, then I guess,

1475
01:24:16,495 --> 01:24:18,735
Speaker 3: with a whole lot of reasons for delay, some of

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01:24:18,815 --> 01:24:22,135
Speaker 3: those deadlines were pushed out, but most private landlords by

1477
01:24:22,255 --> 01:24:25,855
Speaker 3: now would need to be compliant with the new healthy

1478
01:24:25,975 --> 01:24:31,375
Speaker 3: Homes standards. So that's around extraction, around insulation, fixed form

1479
01:24:31,455 --> 01:24:33,655
Speaker 3: of heating, vapor b areas, et cetera, et cetera, all

1480
01:24:33,695 --> 01:24:37,015
Speaker 3: of the regulations that we've become reasonably familiar with now.

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01:24:39,255 --> 01:24:45,575
Speaker 3: So but interestingly enough, the government's own housing provider, being

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01:24:46,015 --> 01:24:50,175
Speaker 3: kol kind of order, they had an extension to those

1483
01:24:50,255 --> 01:24:52,375
Speaker 3: deadlines so they didn't have to do the same sort

1484
01:24:52,415 --> 01:24:57,215
Speaker 3: of work as a private landlord would have to do. Interesting,

1485
01:24:57,335 --> 01:24:59,895
Speaker 3: I just thought, I'll see where we're at because my

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01:25:00,015 --> 01:25:03,095
Speaker 3: understanding was, Okay, they've got slightly longer to do the work,

1487
01:25:03,775 --> 01:25:07,135
Speaker 3: but it's actually not that much longer. So I'm looking

1488
01:25:07,175 --> 01:25:11,615
Speaker 3: at A press release from November twenty twenty two updates

1489
01:25:11,695 --> 01:25:15,015
Speaker 3: to the Healthy Home Standards compliance dates taking effect from

1490
01:25:15,055 --> 01:25:18,015
Speaker 3: the twenty sixth of November twenty twenty two. The Government

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01:25:18,055 --> 01:25:20,615
Speaker 3: has extended the time frame to comply with the Healthy

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01:25:20,695 --> 01:25:24,455
Speaker 3: Home Standards for private landslords for coming order and for

1493
01:25:24,615 --> 01:25:27,895
Speaker 3: community housing providers who have not yet been required to

1494
01:25:27,975 --> 01:25:31,815
Speaker 3: comply under the Healthy Home Standards. So all private rentals

1495
01:25:31,975 --> 01:25:34,535
Speaker 3: must comply with the Healthy Home Standards within one hundred

1496
01:25:34,535 --> 01:25:37,575
Speaker 3: and twenty days of any new or renewed tenancy, with

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01:25:37,775 --> 01:25:42,455
Speaker 3: all private rentals complying by the first of July twenty

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01:25:42,535 --> 01:25:44,775
Speaker 3: twenty five. Now, the reason that it's first of July

1499
01:25:44,935 --> 01:25:48,095
Speaker 3: twenty twenty five is, let's say you have an existing tenant.

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01:25:49,055 --> 01:25:52,375
Speaker 3: You haven't renewed the tenancy because they've gone from fixed

1501
01:25:52,455 --> 01:25:55,135
Speaker 3: term to periodical or whatever it is. So you might

1502
01:25:55,215 --> 01:25:56,775
Speaker 3: have a tenant who's been in the house for five

1503
01:25:56,895 --> 01:25:58,935
Speaker 3: years and who plans to stay for another five years.

1504
01:25:59,015 --> 01:26:01,615
Speaker 3: So as a private landlord, you haven't actually had to

1505
01:26:01,695 --> 01:26:05,415
Speaker 3: comply with the regulations because nobody's moved out. Short answer,

1506
01:26:05,695 --> 01:26:07,655
Speaker 3: but you will have to comply by the first of

1507
01:26:07,775 --> 01:26:10,935
Speaker 3: July twenty twenty five, regardless of the nature of the

1508
01:26:11,015 --> 01:26:15,175
Speaker 3: tenancy or the agreement. Second part of that, all houses

1509
01:26:15,215 --> 01:26:18,455
Speaker 3: rented by a congora formerly Housing New Zealand and registered

1510
01:26:18,535 --> 01:26:23,655
Speaker 3: community housing providers must comply by the first of July

1511
01:26:23,815 --> 01:26:28,215
Speaker 3: twenty twenty four, end of the month beginning of next month.

1512
01:26:28,775 --> 01:26:31,415
Speaker 3: That's going to be really interesting to see. All boarding

1513
01:26:31,455 --> 01:26:34,655
Speaker 3: houses must already comply with the Healthy Home standards as

1514
01:26:34,735 --> 01:26:39,335
Speaker 3: of the first of July twenty twenty one. And then

1515
01:26:39,375 --> 01:26:42,535
Speaker 3: there's some useful tools to have a look at. And

1516
01:26:42,575 --> 01:26:44,735
Speaker 3: all of this is from the Tenancy dot gov dot

1517
01:26:44,975 --> 01:26:52,295
Speaker 3: NZ website. That's that deadline first of July twenty twenty

1518
01:26:52,335 --> 01:26:55,575
Speaker 3: four for all KO houses. That's going to be really

1519
01:26:55,615 --> 01:26:57,655
Speaker 3: interesting to see how that works out in the next

1520
01:26:57,855 --> 01:27:02,695
Speaker 3: what fifteen days before the or less until the first

1521
01:27:02,735 --> 01:27:06,215
Speaker 3: of July. Certainly for private landlords if you're doing it

1522
01:27:06,375 --> 01:27:09,295
Speaker 3: new tenancy, new tenancy agreement's got to be in there. Oh,

1523
01:27:09,335 --> 01:27:11,695
Speaker 3: eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

1524
01:27:12,055 --> 01:27:14,895
Speaker 3: What was the other quick text that came through? Good morning,

1525
01:27:15,015 --> 01:27:17,455
Speaker 3: Do you need a building consent to fully replace an

1526
01:27:17,535 --> 01:27:22,975
Speaker 3: old tile roof with a tinroof from Craig, Yes, would

1527
01:27:23,015 --> 01:27:26,295
Speaker 3: be my answer. And part of that is I worked

1528
01:27:26,335 --> 01:27:29,175
Speaker 3: my way through during the break through what I find

1529
01:27:29,295 --> 01:27:34,335
Speaker 3: actually is a very useful government website, so it's tied

1530
01:27:34,375 --> 01:27:36,815
Speaker 3: in with it, you know, building dot gov dot enz.

1531
01:27:37,655 --> 01:27:40,775
Speaker 3: If you are ever unsure about what work requires a

1532
01:27:40,815 --> 01:27:45,255
Speaker 3: building consent and what doesn't, go to canibuild it dot

1533
01:27:45,375 --> 01:27:48,935
Speaker 3: gov dot enz. So can I build it all one

1534
01:27:49,015 --> 01:27:52,655
Speaker 3: word effectively all lower case dot gov dot nz And

1535
01:27:52,815 --> 01:27:55,175
Speaker 3: in fact, I'll put that a link to that up

1536
01:27:55,255 --> 01:27:58,815
Speaker 3: on my Facebook page this morning, so if you go

1537
01:27:58,895 --> 01:28:01,415
Speaker 3: to resident builder you'll find the link there. I find it.

1538
01:28:01,655 --> 01:28:03,935
Speaker 3: I mean, it's not one hundred percent like you may

1539
01:28:03,975 --> 01:28:05,895
Speaker 3: not get all of the answers, but it will give

1540
01:28:05,935 --> 01:28:09,055
Speaker 3: you an indication of whether or not you require a

1541
01:28:09,095 --> 01:28:11,775
Speaker 3: building consent for certain types of work. So I worked

1542
01:28:11,815 --> 01:28:14,975
Speaker 3: my way through that with that question do I need

1543
01:28:15,095 --> 01:28:17,695
Speaker 3: a building consent to fully replace an old tile roof?

1544
01:28:18,375 --> 01:28:21,735
Speaker 3: And it said yes. And the reason for it being

1545
01:28:22,135 --> 01:28:24,935
Speaker 3: is that if you are planning a substantial or complete

1546
01:28:25,015 --> 01:28:28,295
Speaker 3: replacement of any component or assembly that contributes to the

1547
01:28:28,375 --> 01:28:34,255
Speaker 3: building's structural behavior, or fire safety. So swapping a heavy

1548
01:28:34,335 --> 01:28:36,895
Speaker 3: roof to a light roof has an impact on uplift

1549
01:28:37,215 --> 01:28:40,335
Speaker 3: and that might then trigger a requirement for a building consent.

1550
01:28:40,615 --> 01:28:42,815
Speaker 3: But either way, on my Facebook page, I will put

1551
01:28:42,895 --> 01:28:46,815
Speaker 3: up a link to that site. This morning, Oh eight

1552
01:28:46,935 --> 01:28:48,855
Speaker 3: hundred eighty ten eighty is then number to call goes

1553
01:28:48,895 --> 01:28:52,095
Speaker 3: good morning to you. Wait there you go out, augur,

1554
01:28:52,375 --> 01:28:54,335
Speaker 3: Please tell me that you're best made? Is Maverick.

1555
01:28:56,895 --> 01:29:00,495
Speaker 10: He comes to a sticky geam though, all right, girls,

1556
01:29:00,535 --> 01:29:05,135
Speaker 10: what's up? I retains, I'll just listening to your story. Yes,

1557
01:29:05,415 --> 01:29:08,055
Speaker 10: on reading a oldest boys looking at buying a house

1558
01:29:08,135 --> 01:29:12,095
Speaker 10: over at Wanganui. We went over last week and it

1559
01:29:12,295 --> 01:29:13,735
Speaker 10: opened over and had a good look at it. It's

1560
01:29:13,775 --> 01:29:16,695
Speaker 10: a beauty or house being Bolton Lne Scene sixteen, but

1561
01:29:16,895 --> 01:29:19,615
Speaker 10: one of a retaining wall. On the section that we

1562
01:29:19,735 --> 01:29:23,335
Speaker 10: hopefully he does get there's about four foot lower than

1563
01:29:23,415 --> 01:29:26,815
Speaker 10: the section beside him, and that's got a concrete drive

1564
01:29:27,455 --> 01:29:30,095
Speaker 10: leaning into the retaining wall, and the retaining wall has

1565
01:29:30,135 --> 01:29:32,055
Speaker 10: falling over that much as it's sets you leaning up

1566
01:29:32,095 --> 01:29:36,095
Speaker 10: against the garage. Then you can see people have tried

1567
01:29:36,135 --> 01:29:38,135
Speaker 10: to image it further down along the side of the

1568
01:29:38,175 --> 01:29:42,095
Speaker 10: house by putting pillars in it. But that's full of

1569
01:29:42,255 --> 01:29:44,775
Speaker 10: black scens like that all the sections of black seeds.

1570
01:29:44,935 --> 01:29:45,135
Speaker 17: Yeah.

1571
01:29:47,335 --> 01:29:48,975
Speaker 10: Is that because it will be on the boundary. Is

1572
01:29:49,015 --> 01:29:50,415
Speaker 10: that a cost of both parties?

1573
01:29:50,775 --> 01:29:50,815
Speaker 12: No?

1574
01:29:51,615 --> 01:29:55,575
Speaker 3: No, Like my typical rule of thumb is that you

1575
01:29:55,655 --> 01:29:58,735
Speaker 3: know if it's if it's on let's say it's on

1576
01:29:59,455 --> 01:30:02,015
Speaker 3: your mate who's interested in the property. If it's on

1577
01:30:02,615 --> 01:30:04,855
Speaker 3: his side of the boundary or her side of the boundary,

1578
01:30:05,215 --> 01:30:09,175
Speaker 3: it'll be their response ability. So it's typically who benefits

1579
01:30:09,215 --> 01:30:12,215
Speaker 3: from the retaining wall. So again, if I'm on the

1580
01:30:12,295 --> 01:30:15,215
Speaker 3: high side and i want a level back section, I'm

1581
01:30:15,255 --> 01:30:18,375
Speaker 3: going to put a retaining wall in inside the boundary

1582
01:30:18,415 --> 01:30:21,775
Speaker 3: on my side of the boundary line and then backfill

1583
01:30:21,815 --> 01:30:24,495
Speaker 3: it to get a level garden. Then I'm responsible for it.

1584
01:30:24,615 --> 01:30:27,815
Speaker 3: Let's say the neighbor goes, actually I need to be

1585
01:30:27,895 --> 01:30:30,255
Speaker 3: able to excavate down in order to get my house

1586
01:30:30,375 --> 01:30:33,495
Speaker 3: to fit underneath the heightened relation to boundary line. So

1587
01:30:33,575 --> 01:30:36,015
Speaker 3: I'm going to put a retaining wall on on my

1588
01:30:36,175 --> 01:30:38,935
Speaker 3: side of the boundary and excavate down. Well, then they're

1589
01:30:38,975 --> 01:30:42,535
Speaker 3: responsible for it. But it sounds like the one that

1590
01:30:42,615 --> 01:30:47,775
Speaker 3: you're interested in is the retaining walls on the property

1591
01:30:48,215 --> 01:30:50,295
Speaker 3: that you're interested in or your friend is interested in.

1592
01:30:50,695 --> 01:30:52,855
Speaker 3: If it's failing, it'll be your responsibility.

1593
01:30:53,695 --> 01:30:56,695
Speaker 10: Oh yeah, it's quite a big one because the cock

1594
01:30:56,895 --> 01:30:59,215
Speaker 10: drawing is actually slip and the water's going off the

1595
01:30:59,295 --> 01:31:02,015
Speaker 10: drive down into the black scene and it's just pushed

1596
01:31:02,015 --> 01:31:04,255
Speaker 10: it all over. But to do the draw properly you

1597
01:31:04,375 --> 01:31:06,175
Speaker 10: have to you have to remove part of this joy

1598
01:31:08,255 --> 01:31:10,335
Speaker 10: and then input it. But if it's on the boundary

1599
01:31:10,415 --> 01:31:12,255
Speaker 10: rights on too, on the boundary pigs and it's half

1600
01:31:12,295 --> 01:31:13,815
Speaker 10: each side, that's a different story.

1601
01:31:14,095 --> 01:31:17,375
Speaker 3: I don't know that that would Well, hopefully that's not

1602
01:31:17,575 --> 01:31:21,215
Speaker 3: the case, right because you know, retaining walls are different

1603
01:31:21,375 --> 01:31:24,615
Speaker 3: to fences, right, and it's not uncommon to put a fence.

1604
01:31:25,095 --> 01:31:27,415
Speaker 3: You know, you can go, you can agree with your neighbor.

1605
01:31:27,455 --> 01:31:29,455
Speaker 3: Here's the boundary, and we're going to put the post

1606
01:31:29,775 --> 01:31:32,815
Speaker 3: half on your side, half on my side. Retaining wolves

1607
01:31:32,855 --> 01:31:34,895
Speaker 3: are not like that. They shouldn't be built like that.

1608
01:31:35,735 --> 01:31:38,855
Speaker 3: Retaining walls should be solely on one property or the other.

1609
01:31:39,935 --> 01:31:41,455
Speaker 10: Okay, well, we can find it.

1610
01:31:41,575 --> 01:31:46,335
Speaker 3: Probably, well it might not be in the limb. And

1611
01:31:46,975 --> 01:31:51,295
Speaker 3: also don't assume, like if there's not an actual legal

1612
01:31:51,495 --> 01:31:55,975
Speaker 3: boundary marker there don't listen to anybody, because I've had

1613
01:31:56,015 --> 01:31:58,855
Speaker 3: this once before where someone said, oh, hey, the fence

1614
01:31:58,975 --> 01:32:01,815
Speaker 3: is on the boundary, and then when we've actually had

1615
01:32:01,855 --> 01:32:05,215
Speaker 3: the survey done founded in fact the boundary was a

1616
01:32:05,295 --> 01:32:08,895
Speaker 3: meter and a half, they're away. So unless there's a

1617
01:32:08,975 --> 01:32:14,135
Speaker 3: legal boundary peg, Yeah, don't don't take anybody's word for it.

1618
01:32:14,935 --> 01:32:17,415
Speaker 10: What we can do then, because because he's done the

1619
01:32:17,975 --> 01:32:19,855
Speaker 10: cheat the different things, and then when you probably end

1620
01:32:19,935 --> 01:32:23,095
Speaker 10: up owning it, which switch it. Well, it's really the

1621
01:32:23,175 --> 01:32:23,575
Speaker 10: best way.

1622
01:32:24,215 --> 01:32:26,735
Speaker 3: Yeah. Look, if you make wants to buy it, then

1623
01:32:26,815 --> 01:32:29,895
Speaker 3: they're going to and the boundary, the retaining wall is

1624
01:32:29,975 --> 01:32:32,375
Speaker 3: on their property. They're going to be liable for the repair.

1625
01:32:33,775 --> 01:32:35,815
Speaker 3: So as long as he knows that he's got you know,

1626
01:32:36,055 --> 01:32:38,095
Speaker 3: tens of thousands of dollars to spend.

1627
01:32:38,495 --> 01:32:41,535
Speaker 10: Yeah, that's right, that will refleet the price, or say

1628
01:32:41,575 --> 01:32:42,535
Speaker 10: but i'll get morning them.

1629
01:32:42,615 --> 01:32:47,975
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, all right, buddy, all the best, take care everybody,

1630
01:32:48,575 --> 01:32:52,055
Speaker 3: Ghost fantastic, got to be Maverick's best mate. Oh eight

1631
01:32:52,175 --> 01:32:54,775
Speaker 3: hundred and eighty ten eighty is that number to call?

1632
01:32:57,615 --> 01:32:59,615
Speaker 3: Here we go. I knew that would start a bit

1633
01:32:59,655 --> 01:33:02,335
Speaker 3: of stuff around the tendancy stuff morning Peak. I've got

1634
01:33:02,415 --> 01:33:04,655
Speaker 3: two ghost homes that I personally can live in, but

1635
01:33:04,775 --> 01:33:06,575
Speaker 3: sadly I'm not allowed to rent out you to the

1636
01:33:06,615 --> 01:33:09,095
Speaker 3: Healthy home standard. Not worth fixing it. Sad but true

1637
01:33:14,575 --> 01:33:17,255
Speaker 3: because to be blunt, I don't find that the healthy

1638
01:33:17,295 --> 01:33:21,695
Speaker 3: home standard is like, it's not a terribly high bar. Right,

1639
01:33:24,055 --> 01:33:30,015
Speaker 3: And to be fair, I have I understand that you know,

1640
01:33:30,095 --> 01:33:32,935
Speaker 3: if you choose not to upgrade your property to make

1641
01:33:33,015 --> 01:33:36,535
Speaker 3: it Healthy Homes compliant, that's completely up to you as

1642
01:33:36,535 --> 01:33:40,815
Speaker 3: a landlord and as a property owner. But to be blunt,

1643
01:33:40,855 --> 01:33:43,615
Speaker 3: I've got very little time for landlords who complain about

1644
01:33:44,895 --> 01:33:48,175
Speaker 3: complying with the Healthy Home standards because it's just not

1645
01:33:48,335 --> 01:33:51,975
Speaker 3: that high a bar. And I speak for experience. It

1646
01:33:52,135 --> 01:33:55,055
Speaker 3: is eighteen and a half minutes after eight. We'll take

1647
01:33:55,095 --> 01:33:56,495
Speaker 3: short break, then we're going to talk to Ash, then

1648
01:33:56,495 --> 01:33:58,095
Speaker 3: we're going to talk to Monty, and then we're going

1649
01:33:58,175 --> 01:34:00,895
Speaker 3: to jump into the garden with the root climb passed

1650
01:34:00,895 --> 01:34:01,695
Speaker 3: from eight thirty.

1651
01:34:01,575 --> 01:34:05,855
Speaker 1: This morning, with a painting the ceiling, fixing the van soil,

1652
01:34:05,935 --> 01:34:08,095
Speaker 1: wondering how to fix that hole in the wall. You

1653
01:34:08,215 --> 01:34:10,815
Speaker 1: give Peter Wolf Cabin call on oh eight hundred eighty

1654
01:34:10,935 --> 01:34:14,295
Speaker 1: ten eighty the resident builder with light four Solar now

1655
01:34:14,375 --> 01:34:15,815
Speaker 1: offering a free battery upgrade.

1656
01:34:15,815 --> 01:34:16,495
Speaker 2: It is in season.

1657
01:34:16,615 --> 01:34:20,415
Speaker 3: Lying NEWSTALKSB your news talks B. I've popped up the

1658
01:34:20,495 --> 01:34:23,055
Speaker 3: link on my Facebook page that you search for a

1659
01:34:23,095 --> 01:34:25,255
Speaker 3: resident builder on Facebook, you'll find it there to that

1660
01:34:25,815 --> 01:34:29,775
Speaker 3: can I Build It dot gov dot NZ website which

1661
01:34:29,895 --> 01:34:32,495
Speaker 3: helps sort of guide you through kind of a yes no,

1662
01:34:33,015 --> 01:34:35,255
Speaker 3: sort of flow chart pattern to figure out whether or

1663
01:34:35,295 --> 01:34:38,215
Speaker 3: not you might need a building consent for certain types

1664
01:34:38,255 --> 01:34:40,455
Speaker 3: of building work. I found it quite useful, so have

1665
01:34:40,535 --> 01:34:43,055
Speaker 3: a look at that. And then I found a picture

1666
01:34:43,095 --> 01:34:45,575
Speaker 3: of myself at field Days. I might put that up

1667
01:34:45,575 --> 01:34:47,095
Speaker 3: as well. We had a great time at field Days.

1668
01:34:47,175 --> 01:34:49,175
Speaker 3: I eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number. Ash

1669
01:34:49,255 --> 01:34:54,495
Speaker 3: Good morning, Hello, Ash Hey, good morning, Good morning, sir.

1670
01:34:56,495 --> 01:34:56,695
Speaker 15: Hey.

1671
01:34:57,455 --> 01:35:03,615
Speaker 22: I wanted to know about subsident. Yes, we've recently discovered

1672
01:35:03,695 --> 01:35:06,815
Speaker 22: that one of our properties has got subsident along the

1673
01:35:06,935 --> 01:35:10,695
Speaker 22: fence side and it's more kind of on the neighbors

1674
01:35:11,535 --> 01:35:15,175
Speaker 22: side that it has got more impact on their site,

1675
01:35:16,215 --> 01:35:18,815
Speaker 22: but it does touch our boundary.

1676
01:35:20,615 --> 01:35:24,855
Speaker 2: Yes, I'm just wondering is.

1677
01:35:24,855 --> 01:35:27,735
Speaker 22: There a way to get this fixed or is there

1678
01:35:27,775 --> 01:35:32,535
Speaker 22: a way because neighbors quite elderly person and they're probably

1679
01:35:32,735 --> 01:35:34,455
Speaker 22: not interested in doing anything.

1680
01:35:35,615 --> 01:35:39,535
Speaker 3: So I mean, these things do get complicated. So broadly speaking,

1681
01:35:39,895 --> 01:35:43,175
Speaker 3: there has been some movement of the land on your

1682
01:35:43,335 --> 01:35:48,335
Speaker 3: neighbour's property which has then caused slumping or subsidence on

1683
01:35:48,455 --> 01:35:49,095
Speaker 3: your property.

1684
01:35:50,375 --> 01:35:54,135
Speaker 22: That's correct, And only where I found out is when

1685
01:35:54,175 --> 01:35:56,175
Speaker 22: I put it back on the market. I've tried to

1686
01:35:56,295 --> 01:36:01,495
Speaker 22: sell it and the potential purchaser got a report in

1687
01:36:01,655 --> 01:36:11,135
Speaker 22: which the subsidence has shown. So we're just wondering what

1688
01:36:11,295 --> 01:36:12,215
Speaker 22: could be the next step.

1689
01:36:12,335 --> 01:36:13,175
Speaker 11: How do I affect it.

1690
01:36:19,055 --> 01:36:21,095
Speaker 3: Without seeing it. It's a little bit difficult to say.

1691
01:36:21,175 --> 01:36:24,775
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, if ground has moved, let's say,

1692
01:36:25,375 --> 01:36:29,615
Speaker 3: because typically you know, if there's a slope and the

1693
01:36:29,735 --> 01:36:33,255
Speaker 3: slope is moving, and that's considered like a slip or

1694
01:36:33,295 --> 01:36:36,095
Speaker 3: a landslide or something like that, then you might end

1695
01:36:36,175 --> 01:36:39,095
Speaker 3: up going to EQC and having them engaged. But if

1696
01:36:39,175 --> 01:36:44,135
Speaker 3: it's ground movement caused by let's say your neighbor's retaining

1697
01:36:44,295 --> 01:36:47,575
Speaker 3: wall giving way and that undermining yours, then you could

1698
01:36:47,735 --> 01:36:51,175
Speaker 3: take action against your neighbor potentially. I understand what you're

1699
01:36:51,215 --> 01:36:53,295
Speaker 3: saying that they are an elderly person and you don't

1700
01:36:53,335 --> 01:36:57,895
Speaker 3: necessarily want to cause upset. The next stage might be

1701
01:36:58,055 --> 01:37:03,255
Speaker 3: to have a geotechnical engineer assess the situation, inspect both properties,

1702
01:37:03,495 --> 01:37:06,495
Speaker 3: and determine what the cause of it is. And if

1703
01:37:07,295 --> 01:37:10,495
Speaker 3: the cause is related to a failure something that your

1704
01:37:10,535 --> 01:37:14,575
Speaker 3: neighbor is responsible for, then I suppose you could take

1705
01:37:14,575 --> 01:37:18,695
Speaker 3: the attitude well, regardless of age and circumstance, they are

1706
01:37:18,775 --> 01:37:23,615
Speaker 3: still responsible for that they're causing potential damage or movement

1707
01:37:23,695 --> 01:37:26,295
Speaker 3: to my property as a result of their lack of

1708
01:37:26,415 --> 01:37:30,055
Speaker 3: maintenance or poor workmanship in the first place, In which

1709
01:37:30,135 --> 01:37:33,335
Speaker 3: case it does, age and circumstance doesn't absolve you of

1710
01:37:33,415 --> 01:37:37,215
Speaker 3: your responsibilities. You could go to them, But I suspect

1711
01:37:37,255 --> 01:37:39,335
Speaker 3: that your next call is probably going to be to

1712
01:37:39,415 --> 01:37:40,655
Speaker 3: a geotechnical engineer.

1713
01:37:41,655 --> 01:37:46,695
Speaker 22: Sure, and just pointing that out, this section that we

1714
01:37:46,855 --> 01:37:52,255
Speaker 22: have is a quarterreca flat pancake section. The QUARTERCA so

1715
01:37:53,215 --> 01:37:54,855
Speaker 22: it's not on a s law, right.

1716
01:37:59,815 --> 01:38:03,375
Speaker 3: You sure the subsidence isn't caused by something like a

1717
01:38:03,535 --> 01:38:05,855
Speaker 3: pipe collapsing underground or something like that.

1718
01:38:07,455 --> 01:38:08,455
Speaker 22: I have no clue.

1719
01:38:08,695 --> 01:38:13,015
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, I think I think a geotechnical investigation is

1720
01:38:13,095 --> 01:38:15,695
Speaker 3: going to be your next stage because and the reason

1721
01:38:15,735 --> 01:38:18,295
Speaker 3: that that might be valuable is also that if there's

1722
01:38:18,375 --> 01:38:21,415
Speaker 3: going to be any remedial work done. It's also going

1723
01:38:21,495 --> 01:38:25,975
Speaker 3: to require assessment by a geotechnical engineer, so you know,

1724
01:38:26,055 --> 01:38:28,455
Speaker 3: any money that you might spend, you'll find that it's

1725
01:38:28,575 --> 01:38:32,855
Speaker 3: useful as part of the repair process. Sure, okay, good,

1726
01:38:33,175 --> 01:38:36,175
Speaker 3: all the best us take care, Thank you, I think

1727
01:38:36,215 --> 01:38:37,975
Speaker 3: and Monty just very quickly, how are you?

1728
01:38:39,095 --> 01:38:39,295
Speaker 9: Yeah?

1729
01:38:39,375 --> 01:38:39,575
Speaker 2: Good?

1730
01:38:40,255 --> 01:38:44,335
Speaker 8: Yeah, thanks McCall beck. You very kindly gave me the

1731
01:38:44,455 --> 01:38:48,095
Speaker 8: name of the of a seiler for doing the joints

1732
01:38:48,215 --> 01:38:51,775
Speaker 8: and a deck fib like deck. I cannot all those damned?

1733
01:38:53,575 --> 01:38:55,655
Speaker 8: Can you what the brand?

1734
01:38:55,735 --> 01:38:56,855
Speaker 10: What I should go for?

1735
01:38:57,215 --> 01:38:59,935
Speaker 3: Chances are it would have been fixed All. So I

1736
01:39:00,015 --> 01:39:02,575
Speaker 3: f I X A double L and that's made by

1737
01:39:02,695 --> 01:39:04,175
Speaker 3: sud L h.

1738
01:39:05,735 --> 01:39:08,735
Speaker 11: D A L so you d A L.

1739
01:39:08,895 --> 01:39:11,935
Speaker 3: Yeah, Pseudor is the brand, and then fix All would

1740
01:39:11,975 --> 01:39:14,415
Speaker 3: have been the product. And the great thing with that

1741
01:39:14,655 --> 01:39:19,095
Speaker 3: is it's a mixture of a silicon so filler with

1742
01:39:19,295 --> 01:39:22,095
Speaker 3: an adhesive as well. So once if you've got the

1743
01:39:22,175 --> 01:39:25,975
Speaker 3: substrate prepared well and you put that in, it will stay.

1744
01:39:25,815 --> 01:39:27,775
Speaker 2: There right now?

1745
01:39:27,815 --> 01:39:29,415
Speaker 8: Will that be able to be painted over with?

1746
01:39:30,255 --> 01:39:31,695
Speaker 3: You can paint fix All?

1747
01:39:31,935 --> 01:39:32,135
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1748
01:39:32,615 --> 01:39:32,775
Speaker 12: Yeah.

1749
01:39:33,095 --> 01:39:35,535
Speaker 8: For preparations where the thing makes all the difference and

1750
01:39:35,575 --> 01:39:37,375
Speaker 8: that's what I'm endeavoring to do and do it properly.

1751
01:39:37,495 --> 01:39:42,215
Speaker 3: So it's always it's always about the preparation. Yeah, you're

1752
01:39:42,295 --> 01:39:45,135
Speaker 3: so right, and we don't want to hear that when

1753
01:39:45,215 --> 01:39:48,015
Speaker 3: we're trying to clean something or we're standing something, or

1754
01:39:48,015 --> 01:39:52,095
Speaker 3: we're scraping something or whatever. But ultimately, you know, it's

1755
01:39:52,255 --> 01:39:56,535
Speaker 3: always preparation. Good preparation, good result. Poor preparation, no matter

1756
01:39:56,615 --> 01:39:58,615
Speaker 3: how good the product is, it ain't going to work.

1757
01:39:59,535 --> 01:40:00,575
Speaker 8: No, No, that's great.

1758
01:40:00,815 --> 01:40:01,735
Speaker 17: Oh, thank so so much.

1759
01:40:02,015 --> 01:40:05,015
Speaker 3: Once again, nice to take care, take care, all the best,

1760
01:40:06,135 --> 01:40:09,495
Speaker 3: think your news talks. It'd be let's jump into the garden.

1761
01:40:09,895 --> 01:40:12,655
Speaker 3: Rid klimb Past is with us. If you've got a

1762
01:40:12,735 --> 01:40:16,135
Speaker 3: question for Ridd, anything to do with plants, the wonderful

1763
01:40:16,135 --> 01:40:19,255
Speaker 3: world of entomology as well. Rudd will be with us

1764
01:40:19,415 --> 01:40:20,335
Speaker 3: in just a moment.

1765
01:40:21,815 --> 01:40:25,335
Speaker 1: Gardening with still sharp massive field days savings on still

1766
01:40:25,415 --> 01:40:26,215
Speaker 1: tools now.

1767
01:40:28,375 --> 01:40:30,415
Speaker 2: Squeaky door or squeaky floor.

1768
01:40:31,015 --> 01:40:34,415
Speaker 1: Get the right advice from Peter Wolfcare, the resident builder

1769
01:40:34,615 --> 01:40:37,895
Speaker 1: with Light four Solar offering affordable solar solutions.

1770
01:40:38,095 --> 01:40:38,975
Speaker 2: News talks, it'd be.

1771
01:40:40,775 --> 01:40:40,895
Speaker 5: Right.

1772
01:40:41,215 --> 01:40:43,975
Speaker 3: That must be my turn, and more importantly, Rudd, it's

1773
01:40:44,055 --> 01:40:44,495
Speaker 3: your turn.

1774
01:40:45,015 --> 01:40:47,135
Speaker 6: Hello, good a how are you.

1775
01:40:47,335 --> 01:40:51,015
Speaker 3: You're good, very good and slightly you know, taking a

1776
01:40:51,135 --> 01:40:53,215
Speaker 3: Rosie view of the world after having spent a couple

1777
01:40:53,215 --> 01:40:56,055
Speaker 3: of days at field days because they're just such good people.

1778
01:40:56,175 --> 01:40:58,735
Speaker 6: Evan been there for a while, but I always I

1779
01:40:58,735 --> 01:41:01,535
Speaker 6: always enjoy I've always find I have not enough time.

1780
01:41:01,855 --> 01:41:05,255
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, I know, And it's amazing. What's you

1781
01:41:05,335 --> 01:41:08,335
Speaker 3: know like and like I say, I've only been going

1782
01:41:08,375 --> 01:41:10,375
Speaker 3: the last on seven or eight years or something like that.

1783
01:41:10,535 --> 01:41:13,975
Speaker 3: But you know, you're wandering along and these drones that

1784
01:41:14,055 --> 01:41:17,975
Speaker 3: you can use for spraying or you know, the technology

1785
01:41:18,095 --> 01:41:21,295
Speaker 3: side of it is amazing. The equipment, of course is fascinating.

1786
01:41:21,415 --> 01:41:24,815
Speaker 3: And I just find that the people because they're all doers, right,

1787
01:41:24,935 --> 01:41:29,135
Speaker 3: everyone's if everyone's engaged, and I love being around people

1788
01:41:29,175 --> 01:41:29,375
Speaker 3: like that.

1789
01:41:29,895 --> 01:41:33,335
Speaker 6: Certainly is talk about drone spraying. You know, when we

1790
01:41:33,455 --> 01:41:37,255
Speaker 6: do predator free New Zealand, And for instance, we noticed

1791
01:41:37,295 --> 01:41:40,175
Speaker 6: that well not me or but you know the people

1792
01:41:40,215 --> 01:41:42,415
Speaker 6: that do it, they knows that the helicopter has missed

1793
01:41:42,455 --> 01:41:45,615
Speaker 6: let's say ten meters. Yeah, sure, and obviously they send

1794
01:41:45,695 --> 01:41:48,015
Speaker 6: a drone into to fix that. That sort of stuff

1795
01:41:48,135 --> 01:41:49,175
Speaker 6: is really cool start.

1796
01:41:49,455 --> 01:41:51,855
Speaker 3: But even some of that technology and the use of

1797
01:41:52,015 --> 01:41:56,215
Speaker 3: AI to identify predators and pests and traps.

1798
01:41:56,735 --> 01:41:57,415
Speaker 6: Yep, you know.

1799
01:41:57,535 --> 01:42:00,855
Speaker 3: The I guess the old way of trapping was that

1800
01:42:00,975 --> 01:42:03,495
Speaker 3: you had lots of people walking miles and miles through

1801
01:42:03,575 --> 01:42:05,935
Speaker 3: the forest and that sort of thing. And now some

1802
01:42:06,055 --> 01:42:09,015
Speaker 3: of them, you traps, will recognize what they've captured, they'll

1803
01:42:09,095 --> 01:42:11,255
Speaker 3: release ort of you know, it's just incredible.

1804
01:42:11,855 --> 01:42:14,295
Speaker 6: You have to remember that I was at in in

1805
01:42:15,575 --> 01:42:19,095
Speaker 6: Queenstown this last week where we had a kiwi WHOI

1806
01:42:19,455 --> 01:42:22,655
Speaker 6: so whoey about kiwi? Three days of talks about kiwi

1807
01:42:23,015 --> 01:42:26,695
Speaker 6: and ai. Stuff is becoming more and more. It comes

1808
01:42:26,775 --> 01:42:29,655
Speaker 6: more and more to the actually quite interesting. So these

1809
01:42:29,735 --> 01:42:32,455
Speaker 6: traps now identify who's at the front of the trap,

1810
01:42:32,975 --> 01:42:34,695
Speaker 6: and then they are to said, no, it's not it's

1811
01:42:34,735 --> 01:42:36,535
Speaker 6: not it's not a pest, it's a kiwi or it's

1812
01:42:36,575 --> 01:42:39,455
Speaker 6: a you know, something we like, and they hold back,

1813
01:42:39,535 --> 01:42:42,735
Speaker 6: they shut up. That's it. But the moment of comes

1814
01:42:43,895 --> 01:42:44,495
Speaker 6: make my day.

1815
01:42:45,255 --> 01:42:45,615
Speaker 15: That's right.

1816
01:42:45,735 --> 01:42:46,855
Speaker 3: Bring it on, sunshine.

1817
01:42:47,415 --> 01:42:50,055
Speaker 6: Yeah, hey, you're talking about that. This is just a

1818
01:42:50,135 --> 01:42:52,575
Speaker 6: couple of little little things. First of all, we stayed

1819
01:42:52,615 --> 01:42:56,295
Speaker 6: in a wonderful little place at Lakeland Christian Camp and

1820
01:42:56,535 --> 01:42:58,935
Speaker 6: and there was this is the other thing about this.

1821
01:42:59,055 --> 01:43:00,775
Speaker 6: So you go to a place like that and you're

1822
01:43:00,815 --> 01:43:03,415
Speaker 6: there with one hundred and something people, and then there's

1823
01:43:03,535 --> 01:43:06,695
Speaker 6: Rachel Paula who feed you everything that you can have.

1824
01:43:06,855 --> 01:43:09,375
Speaker 6: It's just unbelievable. I just want to shout out to

1825
01:43:09,415 --> 01:43:12,415
Speaker 6: these guys. That's wonderful. That is exactly the way it was.

1826
01:43:12,735 --> 01:43:14,775
Speaker 6: And the other thing that I think a lot of

1827
01:43:14,815 --> 01:43:17,015
Speaker 6: people that are not in the South Island will forget

1828
01:43:17,495 --> 01:43:20,335
Speaker 6: is that we now have very soon on the twenty

1829
01:43:20,375 --> 01:43:27,775
Speaker 6: first of June, that famous place, the Wanica Mountain Film

1830
01:43:27,855 --> 01:43:30,615
Speaker 6: Festival is starting on the twenty first For about sixty

1831
01:43:30,775 --> 01:43:33,855
Speaker 6: nine bucks or so, you can actually get yourself a

1832
01:43:34,255 --> 01:43:37,175
Speaker 6: subscription for the whole month to watch all these amazing films.

1833
01:43:37,455 --> 01:43:40,775
Speaker 6: If you see the trailer of the film Festival, the

1834
01:43:40,935 --> 01:43:44,295
Speaker 6: Film Festival in Wanica, you will watch it. I'll bet

1835
01:43:44,335 --> 01:43:46,735
Speaker 6: you you will. It is unbelievable.

1836
01:43:46,775 --> 01:43:51,335
Speaker 3: I just thought i'd tell you fantastic. Right, let's get

1837
01:43:51,335 --> 01:43:55,095
Speaker 3: amongst the calls, fullball calls already and lislie. Let's start

1838
01:43:55,135 --> 01:43:58,695
Speaker 3: with you Heally, Hello, Rode.

1839
01:43:59,175 --> 01:44:01,415
Speaker 23: I want to know if you can help me. My

1840
01:44:01,615 --> 01:44:08,135
Speaker 23: passion fruit has gone feral. It's gone everywhere, and the

1841
01:44:08,255 --> 01:44:12,495
Speaker 23: fruit is there as well, so what can I do?

1842
01:44:12,775 --> 01:44:15,655
Speaker 23: When should I prune and how far should I prune it?

1843
01:44:16,375 --> 01:44:19,055
Speaker 6: I would first of all, let those fruit ripen if

1844
01:44:19,095 --> 01:44:22,535
Speaker 6: that's still happening, and then do it afterwards. Yeah, in

1845
01:44:22,575 --> 01:44:24,815
Speaker 6: the winter time, you can prune it back. Don't go

1846
01:44:24,935 --> 01:44:28,375
Speaker 6: over the top. But but but make it suit your sight,

1847
01:44:28,735 --> 01:44:28,935
Speaker 6: you know.

1848
01:44:28,935 --> 01:44:29,335
Speaker 2: What I mean.

1849
01:44:30,175 --> 01:44:35,255
Speaker 23: Yes, it's okay, thank you, no problem have you?

1850
01:44:35,455 --> 01:44:36,455
Speaker 6: Is it still ripening?

1851
01:44:36,535 --> 01:44:40,655
Speaker 23: You think, well, I'm not sure that it's just producing

1852
01:44:40,775 --> 01:44:41,655
Speaker 23: more fruit.

1853
01:44:42,655 --> 01:44:47,935
Speaker 6: Where you were from where you're ringing, you don't have

1854
01:44:48,015 --> 01:44:51,575
Speaker 6: any frost. So take it while it goes, keep going.

1855
01:44:52,495 --> 01:44:55,255
Speaker 6: But you can then take off at the moment if

1856
01:44:55,295 --> 01:44:57,975
Speaker 6: you want to start early, take off those particular vines

1857
01:44:58,255 --> 01:45:00,415
Speaker 6: that haven't got fruit on if you like. You can

1858
01:45:00,695 --> 01:45:02,295
Speaker 6: prune those back already.

1859
01:45:02,895 --> 01:45:06,175
Speaker 23: And probably pinch back the ends with that help.

1860
01:45:07,295 --> 01:45:09,695
Speaker 6: Not necessarily, but you could try it. You might find

1861
01:45:09,735 --> 01:45:11,735
Speaker 6: it starts to spread out a bit more. You know,

1862
01:45:11,775 --> 01:45:15,855
Speaker 6: it starts to put new new branches off just beyond

1863
01:45:15,935 --> 01:45:16,815
Speaker 6: the way you pruned it.

1864
01:45:18,695 --> 01:45:25,175
Speaker 23: That's six feet high and about about twelve feet wide

1865
01:45:26,055 --> 01:45:27,415
Speaker 23: and lush all over.

1866
01:45:28,015 --> 01:45:29,815
Speaker 6: And that's why I want you to prune it for

1867
01:45:29,935 --> 01:45:33,575
Speaker 6: your own. If you like your own size and height

1868
01:45:33,695 --> 01:45:35,415
Speaker 6: that you can reach comfortably.

1869
01:45:36,335 --> 01:45:40,935
Speaker 3: I say, right, I'll do that, Okay, all very busy

1870
01:45:40,975 --> 01:45:43,535
Speaker 3: to take care, Leslie and Andrew A very good morning

1871
01:45:43,575 --> 01:45:43,735
Speaker 3: to you.

1872
01:45:45,095 --> 01:45:52,335
Speaker 24: Morning morning, Rude. Oh on a dairy farm, and we've

1873
01:45:52,415 --> 01:45:55,975
Speaker 24: got a lot of native planting that we're interested in going.

1874
01:45:56,015 --> 01:45:59,455
Speaker 24: We've already started. But what I was wanting to know

1875
01:45:59,735 --> 01:46:03,095
Speaker 24: is a couple of things. How easy is it to

1876
01:46:03,255 --> 01:46:05,695
Speaker 24: grow notice from cuttings?

1877
01:46:06,775 --> 01:46:12,055
Speaker 6: Quite easy, some of them quite easy, I'll give you. Oh,

1878
01:46:13,375 --> 01:46:18,775
Speaker 6: there so many things, peosporums, quite easy, lots of different things,

1879
01:46:18,895 --> 01:46:21,335
Speaker 6: whatever you want to do. Are you thinking of hedges

1880
01:46:21,535 --> 01:46:24,655
Speaker 6: or just basically trees that are going to be becoming

1881
01:46:25,255 --> 01:46:26,695
Speaker 6: trees or shrubs.

1882
01:46:27,815 --> 01:46:33,175
Speaker 24: Everything. We've got probably three kilometers just of road frontage

1883
01:46:33,255 --> 01:46:37,415
Speaker 24: on a boundary, and then a couple of weird areas,

1884
01:46:39,055 --> 01:46:45,175
Speaker 24: some internal planting as well. It's various stages. But I'm

1885
01:46:45,255 --> 01:46:48,855
Speaker 24: just wondering, is there any particular site or book or

1886
01:46:48,895 --> 01:46:51,015
Speaker 24: anything that you can point me to that might help

1887
01:46:51,095 --> 01:46:53,295
Speaker 24: me out and understanding this a bit bitter?

1888
01:46:53,815 --> 01:46:57,215
Speaker 6: Absolutely, I think there is quite I am not sure

1889
01:46:57,215 --> 01:46:59,135
Speaker 6: I've got it. For instance, a Yates garden guard here,

1890
01:46:59,175 --> 01:47:01,895
Speaker 6: which I usually take with me to the studio. But

1891
01:47:02,135 --> 01:47:04,815
Speaker 6: I know that I've at home, I've got quite a

1892
01:47:04,855 --> 01:47:09,975
Speaker 6: few books on and taking cuttings and all that sort

1893
01:47:09,975 --> 01:47:12,255
Speaker 6: of stuff, but also how you can take cuttings by,

1894
01:47:12,335 --> 01:47:15,415
Speaker 6: for instance, layering we call that layering, such as certain

1895
01:47:15,495 --> 01:47:19,575
Speaker 6: branches underground by literally digging them into the ground, put

1896
01:47:19,615 --> 01:47:22,415
Speaker 6: a brick on them, and basically those little twigs will

1897
01:47:22,535 --> 01:47:25,975
Speaker 6: also form roots. You can then cut it off after

1898
01:47:26,055 --> 01:47:28,375
Speaker 6: a year if they're all okay, and you use that

1899
01:47:28,455 --> 01:47:31,175
Speaker 6: as a new plant. And to be quite honest, if

1900
01:47:31,175 --> 01:47:34,255
Speaker 6: you're talking about three and a half kilometers of frontage,

1901
01:47:34,815 --> 01:47:37,295
Speaker 6: you might want to save yourself some dish by doing

1902
01:47:37,375 --> 01:47:40,295
Speaker 6: it yourself. And for that reason, I suggest get something

1903
01:47:40,455 --> 01:47:43,975
Speaker 6: like a shade house that is usually very useful for

1904
01:47:45,255 --> 01:47:47,615
Speaker 6: seeds but also for cuttings.

1905
01:47:48,975 --> 01:47:52,815
Speaker 3: Okay, Can I jump in as well and just say

1906
01:47:53,455 --> 01:47:56,655
Speaker 3: the other thing, Andrew is have a look around your community,

1907
01:47:56,815 --> 01:48:02,575
Speaker 3: right and undoubtedly you'll find some ecological restoration groups that

1908
01:48:02,695 --> 01:48:04,975
Speaker 3: have sprung up because you know this bitter than I do.

1909
01:48:05,335 --> 01:48:08,655
Speaker 3: They're everywhere now, which is so awesome. And get the

1910
01:48:08,735 --> 01:48:11,855
Speaker 3: advice and connect with them. And again, I'm thinking about

1911
01:48:11,935 --> 01:48:15,135
Speaker 3: restoring takodonghaki that work me where I am you know

1912
01:48:15,255 --> 01:48:18,055
Speaker 3: this community group that's now developed a nursery and is

1913
01:48:18,095 --> 01:48:21,695
Speaker 3: propagating maybe as many as forty thousand seedlings a year.

1914
01:48:21,975 --> 01:48:24,415
Speaker 3: So you know, if you connect with a local group

1915
01:48:24,895 --> 01:48:27,735
Speaker 3: and then get some advice and some guidance from them,

1916
01:48:27,855 --> 01:48:30,815
Speaker 3: or perhaps work collaboratively with them, you know, you don't

1917
01:48:30,815 --> 01:48:32,015
Speaker 3: have to reinvent the wheel, do you.

1918
01:48:32,535 --> 01:48:37,895
Speaker 24: No, sorry, one to look on a thing quickly. So

1919
01:48:38,055 --> 01:48:41,135
Speaker 24: the pest protectors that you put on to protect plants

1920
01:48:41,135 --> 01:48:44,335
Speaker 24: when they're young, how long would you leave them on for?

1921
01:48:44,535 --> 01:48:48,335
Speaker 24: Because we do have pakekiko and other birds on farm

1922
01:48:48,855 --> 01:48:53,415
Speaker 24: that can be but a little frustrating if you take

1923
01:48:53,495 --> 01:48:57,415
Speaker 24: them off or don't even put the protectors on initially.

1924
01:48:57,575 --> 01:48:58,935
Speaker 24: So I was just wondering how long you'd.

1925
01:48:58,815 --> 01:48:59,175
Speaker 11: Leave them on.

1926
01:48:59,735 --> 01:49:01,775
Speaker 6: Well, the problem is that I haven't. I haven't got

1927
01:49:01,815 --> 01:49:04,015
Speaker 6: a good because we don't, thank god, haven't got many

1928
01:49:04,055 --> 01:49:06,615
Speaker 6: pook kickers where I have been and where i'm so

1929
01:49:06,775 --> 01:49:09,815
Speaker 6: I'm not that good at this. But protectors are always

1930
01:49:09,815 --> 01:49:12,215
Speaker 6: good for the first year or two sometimes because it

1931
01:49:12,295 --> 01:49:17,015
Speaker 6: also stops weeds overgrowing your new plants. That's quite an

1932
01:49:17,015 --> 01:49:19,575
Speaker 6: important thing. But you know what if I have if

1933
01:49:19,615 --> 01:49:22,495
Speaker 6: I were really cheeky, I would say, especially if you're

1934
01:49:22,535 --> 01:49:26,415
Speaker 6: near Christchurch, go to Burnside Primary and ask the years,

1935
01:49:26,815 --> 01:49:29,335
Speaker 6: the kids who are eight, nine, ten years because they

1936
01:49:29,495 --> 01:49:35,575
Speaker 6: actually build gardens to reintroduce a rather amazing butterfly back

1937
01:49:35,615 --> 01:49:38,295
Speaker 6: into the city of Grossiers. And they now to take cuttings,

1938
01:49:38,455 --> 01:49:41,055
Speaker 6: no how to do the seeds. They know it all.

1939
01:49:41,295 --> 01:49:43,135
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. You know, connect with your local

1940
01:49:43,415 --> 01:49:46,975
Speaker 3: ecological groups and you know just so much information and

1941
01:49:47,135 --> 01:49:50,935
Speaker 3: so much goodwill as well. Great one, Andrew, Thanks, appreciate

1942
01:49:51,015 --> 01:49:52,775
Speaker 3: it and love the w that you're about to do.

1943
01:49:52,895 --> 01:49:55,535
Speaker 3: I think that's super exciting. We should take a break

1944
01:49:55,575 --> 01:49:57,255
Speaker 3: and then we'll talk to Bruce and then we'll be

1945
01:49:57,335 --> 01:49:58,615
Speaker 3: back in just a moment.

1946
01:50:00,255 --> 01:50:03,255
Speaker 2: Helping you get those DIY projects done right.

1947
01:50:03,495 --> 01:50:07,455
Speaker 1: The resident builder with Peter Wolfcare and four Solar now

1948
01:50:07,575 --> 01:50:11,095
Speaker 1: offering a free vttery upgrade season season playing News Talks.

1949
01:50:11,615 --> 01:50:13,815
Speaker 3: Your News Talks. It been Bruce. Good morning to you, sir,

1950
01:50:14,775 --> 01:50:15,415
Speaker 3: is good morning.

1951
01:50:15,695 --> 01:50:18,535
Speaker 4: I've got a problem with strawberries.

1952
01:50:19,455 --> 01:50:20,215
Speaker 6: What's the problem.

1953
01:50:21,215 --> 01:50:26,695
Speaker 4: Wonderful plants, great rubbers, but no throat. All I produce

1954
01:50:27,055 --> 01:50:30,135
Speaker 4: is some rubbers after runner after runner.

1955
01:50:30,495 --> 01:50:33,095
Speaker 6: Which is good because there was a real scarcity of

1956
01:50:33,255 --> 01:50:34,215
Speaker 6: plants last year.

1957
01:50:34,335 --> 01:50:39,095
Speaker 4: Remember that's right. And I've now got probably fifty plants.

1958
01:50:39,695 --> 01:50:42,815
Speaker 6: That's fine, that's okay, But here we go from here on.

1959
01:50:42,975 --> 01:50:46,015
Speaker 6: What do you use as fertilized bruise, Well.

1960
01:50:46,175 --> 01:50:50,855
Speaker 4: The normal strawberry fertilizer, and of I've got a few

1961
01:50:51,015 --> 01:50:55,095
Speaker 4: extra plants on the glasshouse and I've got so potters

1962
01:50:55,255 --> 01:50:55,535
Speaker 4: on them.

1963
01:50:56,095 --> 01:50:58,815
Speaker 6: Yes you don't, you don't. That's quite often the way

1964
01:50:58,815 --> 01:51:00,255
Speaker 6: to go. But you have to remember that this time

1965
01:51:00,295 --> 01:51:02,255
Speaker 6: of the year. Of course, there's not much flowering going

1966
01:51:02,295 --> 01:51:05,855
Speaker 6: on in nothing, no, no, no, but it does pay

1967
01:51:05,935 --> 01:51:09,495
Speaker 6: to give him from from early spring, really early spring,

1968
01:51:09,615 --> 01:51:14,055
Speaker 6: let's say August September, a little bit of that potage

1969
01:51:14,135 --> 01:51:18,455
Speaker 6: to just remind them, hello, wake up, time to flower. Yeah,

1970
01:51:18,815 --> 01:51:20,535
Speaker 6: and that is probably the way to go. Have you

1971
01:51:20,615 --> 01:51:21,575
Speaker 6: done that last year too?

1972
01:51:22,295 --> 01:51:24,695
Speaker 4: Well? I thought I did last year, but all my

1973
01:51:24,815 --> 01:51:28,095
Speaker 4: producer was runner Still I just think them out or

1974
01:51:29,615 --> 01:51:31,655
Speaker 4: keep persevering, Yeah.

1975
01:51:31,535 --> 01:51:33,895
Speaker 6: Keep persevering. But that potage should do it. That's self

1976
01:51:33,935 --> 01:51:36,735
Speaker 6: made of potash. If you water that into the soil,

1977
01:51:37,175 --> 01:51:39,095
Speaker 6: you know, of course, the soil's got to be nice

1978
01:51:39,135 --> 01:51:41,935
Speaker 6: and well drained and full of organic material. As you know,

1979
01:51:42,575 --> 01:51:44,895
Speaker 6: you do that too, I'm sure yeah, yeah, I'm sure.

1980
01:51:45,335 --> 01:51:47,655
Speaker 6: Well then it's the potage that should really wake those

1981
01:51:47,695 --> 01:51:49,455
Speaker 6: plants up. I would persevere with it.

1982
01:51:50,295 --> 01:51:51,495
Speaker 4: Okay, Well, thanks for that.

1983
01:51:52,815 --> 01:51:54,015
Speaker 6: Good luck, Bruce, bye bye.

1984
01:51:54,495 --> 01:51:56,735
Speaker 3: All the best Bruce, you take care, and Diane a

1985
01:51:56,935 --> 01:51:57,535
Speaker 3: very good morning.

1986
01:51:58,495 --> 01:52:01,855
Speaker 25: Good morning Rose. I've got a bit of a challenge,

1987
01:52:01,895 --> 01:52:04,055
Speaker 25: and you helped me once before with my gloggy soil.

1988
01:52:04,135 --> 01:52:06,055
Speaker 25: It's about three or four years ago. But now I

1989
01:52:06,135 --> 01:52:11,895
Speaker 25: have gardens full of breastcas and spinach and silver beet

1990
01:52:11,895 --> 01:52:14,735
Speaker 25: at for different stages and all sorts of varieties of things.

1991
01:52:15,535 --> 01:52:18,135
Speaker 25: My leaks, however, have green soil.

1992
01:52:18,655 --> 01:52:19,415
Speaker 7: What have I done?

1993
01:52:20,215 --> 01:52:22,495
Speaker 25: Everything tiled apart from around my leaks.

1994
01:52:23,495 --> 01:52:26,175
Speaker 6: Oh, so, so the leaks are still in? What you

1995
01:52:26,255 --> 01:52:30,055
Speaker 6: mean you haven't? You haven't literally this is a new

1996
01:52:30,135 --> 01:52:33,375
Speaker 6: winter garden, okay. And what's wrong with the leaks.

1997
01:52:34,015 --> 01:52:36,575
Speaker 25: Well, the soil around the leaks has gone green.

1998
01:52:37,975 --> 01:52:41,775
Speaker 6: Soil has gone green? What with wheat or what?

1999
01:52:46,975 --> 01:52:47,055
Speaker 12: Am?

2000
01:52:47,135 --> 01:52:48,975
Speaker 20: I started it with a with a.

2001
01:52:51,175 --> 01:52:55,135
Speaker 25: Put the normal sheep poos and then chicken pools, and

2002
01:52:55,255 --> 01:52:57,975
Speaker 25: then I put the leaks in. After that, so normal

2003
01:52:58,055 --> 01:52:59,295
Speaker 25: trenching and then put the leaks in.

2004
01:52:59,855 --> 01:53:01,535
Speaker 6: That is the way I would do it for leaks.

2005
01:53:01,575 --> 01:53:06,415
Speaker 6: Because leaks are very nitrogen hungry things, aren't they. And

2006
01:53:07,055 --> 01:53:08,895
Speaker 6: but they are not growing very well. Is that what

2007
01:53:09,015 --> 01:53:09,455
Speaker 6: you're saying.

2008
01:53:09,655 --> 01:53:12,895
Speaker 25: No, they're not growing. But the soil, the soil has

2009
01:53:13,695 --> 01:53:16,135
Speaker 25: has got a green tinge. So the rist of guns

2010
01:53:16,135 --> 01:53:18,815
Speaker 25: fine toiled and everything, but the soil around the lakes

2011
01:53:18,855 --> 01:53:19,695
Speaker 25: has gone green.

2012
01:53:20,295 --> 01:53:23,455
Speaker 6: I would I've never seen it like described like that,

2013
01:53:23,655 --> 01:53:25,695
Speaker 6: or never seen it like the way you described it.

2014
01:53:25,775 --> 01:53:27,255
Speaker 6: Let's put it that way. I'm not sure what that

2015
01:53:27,415 --> 01:53:30,935
Speaker 6: green tinge means, and it might be that it wants

2016
01:53:31,015 --> 01:53:35,215
Speaker 6: some uh, phosphates for the for the roots of the

2017
01:53:35,255 --> 01:53:37,775
Speaker 6: plants to grow with, you know what I mean. So

2018
01:53:38,335 --> 01:53:41,415
Speaker 6: you can't just you can't just have an animal manure.

2019
01:53:41,615 --> 01:53:44,815
Speaker 6: I suppose on plants like that you sometimes do have

2020
01:53:44,935 --> 01:53:47,295
Speaker 6: to give them a little bit of general fertilizer with

2021
01:53:47,415 --> 01:53:50,655
Speaker 6: the normal balance of N, P and K. But in

2022
01:53:50,735 --> 01:53:52,695
Speaker 6: this case, especially the P you don't need the K,

2023
01:53:52,855 --> 01:53:55,175
Speaker 6: you don't want it the flower, but the phosphate is

2024
01:53:55,215 --> 01:53:56,295
Speaker 6: the one that might be lacking.

2025
01:53:57,175 --> 01:53:59,495
Speaker 25: Okay, I'll give that a try. Thank you very much

2026
01:53:59,535 --> 01:53:59,975
Speaker 25: for your help.

2027
01:54:02,655 --> 01:54:05,015
Speaker 3: Thank you, Diane, take care and Jerry, hey.

2028
01:54:04,895 --> 01:54:09,695
Speaker 7: There, good morning. I'd like to speaks rude about blackberries.

2029
01:54:09,775 --> 01:54:11,095
Speaker 7: Please go for it.

2030
01:54:11,335 --> 01:54:12,535
Speaker 6: Tell me what's the problem.

2031
01:54:12,855 --> 01:54:16,535
Speaker 7: We're we have some lovely BlackBerry wines. We get a

2032
01:54:16,615 --> 01:54:19,255
Speaker 7: lot of blackberries off them, but we find that the

2033
01:54:19,375 --> 01:54:23,975
Speaker 7: fruit is not as sweet as the local nature blackberries.

2034
01:54:24,335 --> 01:54:27,175
Speaker 7: What can I add to the soil to improve that sweetness?

2035
01:54:27,695 --> 01:54:31,415
Speaker 6: Potash? I know that for a fact. It goes for

2036
01:54:31,495 --> 01:54:33,935
Speaker 6: a lot of different plants like this, especially the berry plants.

2037
01:54:34,255 --> 01:54:36,495
Speaker 6: If you give them a little bit of selfate of potash,

2038
01:54:36,855 --> 01:54:39,415
Speaker 6: they not only set more fruit and are more willing

2039
01:54:39,455 --> 01:54:42,015
Speaker 6: to put more fruit, but the fruits also become sweeter.

2040
01:54:42,455 --> 01:54:45,495
Speaker 6: The same with the with the citrus as well. By

2041
01:54:45,575 --> 01:54:48,735
Speaker 6: the way, Oh great, yeah, So get yourself a little

2042
01:54:48,735 --> 01:54:53,495
Speaker 6: big selfate of potash already. Yeah, And you use it

2043
01:54:53,615 --> 01:54:55,495
Speaker 6: with and you use it as an add on to

2044
01:54:55,655 --> 01:54:59,015
Speaker 6: the normal general fertilizer like United Fosco Blue or whatever

2045
01:54:59,095 --> 01:55:00,175
Speaker 6: you use, and.

2046
01:55:00,255 --> 01:55:02,255
Speaker 7: You'll find it occasionally throughout.

2047
01:55:02,015 --> 01:55:03,055
Speaker 12: The year or.

2048
01:55:04,735 --> 01:55:08,375
Speaker 6: Night when you remember there you were just a bit

2049
01:55:08,655 --> 01:55:08,935
Speaker 6: thank you.

2050
01:55:09,095 --> 01:55:11,935
Speaker 7: And on another line, you will know Peter Sware Sport

2051
01:55:12,615 --> 01:55:15,615
Speaker 7: with the Doctor in college. Yeah yeah, what a great

2052
01:55:15,935 --> 01:55:16,775
Speaker 7: what a great band.

2053
01:55:17,375 --> 01:55:19,655
Speaker 6: Yeah, I know the trinkle has been You don't worry,

2054
01:55:20,935 --> 01:55:22,335
Speaker 6: do you know? I'm a Jespianist.

2055
01:55:24,495 --> 01:55:26,775
Speaker 7: I did. That's one reason why I mentioned it, because

2056
01:55:26,775 --> 01:55:27,895
Speaker 7: I know you're into chat.

2057
01:55:28,855 --> 01:55:34,175
Speaker 3: Playing all of this theory. Take care and Jason, a

2058
01:55:34,335 --> 01:55:35,095
Speaker 3: very good morning to you.

2059
01:55:36,335 --> 01:55:42,895
Speaker 6: Oh hello, hello Jason. Where are you? Madiard?

2060
01:55:42,895 --> 01:55:46,495
Speaker 21: Thank you list. I went to the walk to Point Ship,

2061
01:55:46,535 --> 01:55:49,815
Speaker 21: which is an Auckland western springs at the zoo. Yeah,

2062
01:55:50,895 --> 01:55:54,895
Speaker 21: and it was raining and I spripped back two treezes

2063
01:55:55,055 --> 01:55:56,975
Speaker 21: bar and I couldn't see one water.

2064
01:55:58,215 --> 01:55:59,775
Speaker 6: Oh where did where?

2065
01:55:59,775 --> 01:55:59,855
Speaker 19: Did?

2066
01:56:00,015 --> 01:56:00,215
Speaker 2: Where?

2067
01:56:00,255 --> 01:56:01,135
Speaker 6: Did you look for them?

2068
01:56:02,695 --> 01:56:04,735
Speaker 21: Just in the It was raining at the time, so

2069
01:56:04,815 --> 01:56:07,855
Speaker 21: I was under under a shelter of the trees. Yeah,

2070
01:56:07,855 --> 01:56:11,775
Speaker 21: you know, I thought I barking under some subs under

2071
01:56:11,775 --> 01:56:15,415
Speaker 21: the lea leaves and stuff, and I didn't see one

2072
01:56:15,495 --> 01:56:16,575
Speaker 21: meta wondering.

2073
01:56:16,375 --> 01:56:17,095
Speaker 17: W fot them?

2074
01:56:17,695 --> 01:56:20,255
Speaker 6: Well, if you if you go in that area. I

2075
01:56:20,415 --> 01:56:23,535
Speaker 6: used to find them hidden in the back of large

2076
01:56:23,655 --> 01:56:24,455
Speaker 6: pine trees, for.

2077
01:56:24,535 --> 01:56:26,735
Speaker 3: Instance, pine trees.

2078
01:56:26,855 --> 01:56:29,735
Speaker 6: Okay, well, no, they don't eat pine trees. But what

2079
01:56:29,855 --> 01:56:31,415
Speaker 6: I mean is, do you know how pine tree bark

2080
01:56:31,655 --> 01:56:33,415
Speaker 6: has got these wonderful grooves in it?

2081
01:56:34,815 --> 01:56:35,015
Speaker 19: Yeah?

2082
01:56:35,455 --> 01:56:39,095
Speaker 6: Not not okay, Well there you go. It's stuff like that.

2083
01:56:39,535 --> 01:56:41,655
Speaker 6: That's one place where you'd find them. The second place

2084
01:56:41,695 --> 01:56:44,895
Speaker 6: you could find them is especially when it's dark. Of course,

2085
01:56:45,135 --> 01:56:47,335
Speaker 6: when they come out is when they come out of

2086
01:56:47,535 --> 01:56:51,975
Speaker 6: old holes made by poor moth caterpillars. And you can

2087
01:56:52,015 --> 01:56:54,535
Speaker 6: find those not only in poor but also in the

2088
01:56:54,935 --> 01:56:57,455
Speaker 6: wetter in trees like that. And you'll find them coming

2089
01:56:57,535 --> 01:57:00,775
Speaker 6: out of those holes in Aukland, especially at night.

2090
01:57:02,415 --> 01:57:04,015
Speaker 21: What what what are these words for?

2091
01:57:04,135 --> 01:57:04,375
Speaker 7: Quite?

2092
01:57:05,695 --> 01:57:07,935
Speaker 6: What do these their worms look like? What do you mean?

2093
01:57:10,695 --> 01:57:10,815
Speaker 11: Oh?

2094
01:57:10,895 --> 01:57:12,135
Speaker 6: What do those holes look like?

2095
01:57:13,335 --> 01:57:13,735
Speaker 3: The holes?

2096
01:57:13,815 --> 01:57:14,015
Speaker 8: Yeah?

2097
01:57:14,095 --> 01:57:17,775
Speaker 6: Yeah, the holes look like somebody has chewed a little

2098
01:57:17,775 --> 01:57:21,655
Speaker 6: bit on the bark in a diamond shaped pattern. There's

2099
01:57:21,695 --> 01:57:23,935
Speaker 6: a hole in the middle that goes into the tree

2100
01:57:24,055 --> 01:57:26,415
Speaker 6: and down in the shape of a seven. And that

2101
01:57:26,615 --> 01:57:29,495
Speaker 6: is a second hand dwelling for a tree weather and

2102
01:57:29,615 --> 01:57:32,535
Speaker 6: you'll find them even in the Chinese privet trees. They

2103
01:57:32,615 --> 01:57:35,615
Speaker 6: seem to love Chinese privt trees. So those holes are

2104
01:57:35,655 --> 01:57:39,095
Speaker 6: made by caterpillars over about five year time spent, and

2105
01:57:39,175 --> 01:57:41,935
Speaker 6: when they have emerged as big moths and flown away

2106
01:57:41,935 --> 01:57:43,695
Speaker 6: and did their mating and all that sort of stuff,

2107
01:57:44,055 --> 01:57:47,175
Speaker 6: the holes remain and weather go like this is my

2108
01:57:47,455 --> 01:57:51,615
Speaker 6: house and they take it over really well, never go.

2109
01:57:53,695 --> 01:57:54,575
Speaker 10: You do they bite?

2110
01:57:55,815 --> 01:57:58,375
Speaker 6: Yeah, they do, especially if you pick them up. But

2111
01:57:58,495 --> 01:58:00,495
Speaker 6: if you let them walk on you. When you let

2112
01:58:00,735 --> 01:58:03,415
Speaker 6: let them walk on you and you touch their antenna

2113
01:58:04,735 --> 01:58:06,895
Speaker 6: so they know what you smell like and get used

2114
01:58:06,895 --> 01:58:09,655
Speaker 6: to you, you can have a weather literally as a pet.

2115
01:58:09,735 --> 01:58:11,575
Speaker 6: And most of the kids that have worked with me

2116
01:58:12,015 --> 01:58:16,655
Speaker 6: will know exactly. My girlfriend is Dorothy. She's a female weather.

2117
01:58:17,015 --> 01:58:20,655
Speaker 6: She goes to all the schools and and she walks

2118
01:58:20,695 --> 01:58:23,495
Speaker 6: over the kids. She does everything. But initially, if you,

2119
01:58:23,575 --> 01:58:26,455
Speaker 6: for instance, mishandle them, Yep, they can bite and it

2120
01:58:26,615 --> 01:58:27,135
Speaker 6: can hurt.

2121
01:58:29,135 --> 01:58:32,935
Speaker 21: Well, I see them and I think, well they must

2122
01:58:33,295 --> 01:58:34,655
Speaker 21: arg you, but they don't.

2123
01:58:34,735 --> 01:58:36,695
Speaker 6: Well they can, they can.

2124
01:58:36,895 --> 01:58:41,415
Speaker 3: Okay, thank you, Jason, you have a great day, and

2125
01:58:41,735 --> 01:58:43,335
Speaker 3: ian a very good morning to you.

2126
01:58:44,775 --> 01:58:45,415
Speaker 17: Good morning to you.

2127
01:58:46,975 --> 01:58:51,695
Speaker 26: I'm looking to take cuttings off Lily Pilly and grow

2128
01:58:51,775 --> 01:58:54,015
Speaker 26: it and I'm watching to see what sort of length

2129
01:58:54,655 --> 01:58:58,855
Speaker 26: I should be cutting them out, and then what sort

2130
01:58:58,895 --> 01:59:02,335
Speaker 26: of media I should put it into. Tried putting it

2131
01:59:02,415 --> 01:59:07,575
Speaker 26: into a promised next, but it didn't seem to take

2132
01:59:07,735 --> 01:59:08,135
Speaker 26: very well.

2133
01:59:08,735 --> 01:59:11,335
Speaker 6: Okay are you And the reason you've said promise is

2134
01:59:11,375 --> 01:59:13,175
Speaker 6: because you needed You know that you need to take

2135
01:59:13,215 --> 01:59:18,455
Speaker 6: cuttings in reasonably well drained materials, right, Yeah, okay, what

2136
01:59:18,615 --> 01:59:20,495
Speaker 6: I do with Look, first of all, why would you

2137
01:59:20,615 --> 01:59:22,375
Speaker 6: use lily Pilly? By the way, can I ask some

2138
01:59:22,415 --> 01:59:27,215
Speaker 6: I'm quite quite curious about that for hedge for a hedge, okay,

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Speaker 6: may I warning warning, Lily Pilly will get sillots, they

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Speaker 6: will get honeyjew on them, they get sooty mold on them.

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Speaker 6: Lily Pilly are also the plants that can transmit myrtle rust.

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Speaker 6: So as a hedge, I think lily Pilly should from

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Speaker 6: now on bee band. As an Australian interloper or South America,

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Speaker 6: I might never is sure where they're from. Australian or

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Speaker 6: South American interloper. That is actually causing usually more questions

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Speaker 6: to this talkback radio show than any other plants. So

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Speaker 6: if you, if you're a nice hatch, get yourself a

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Speaker 6: native one, a karakia or a bit of sporum or

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Speaker 6: something like that. Where where where do you? Where are

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Speaker 6: you ringing from?

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Speaker 10: Ian?

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Speaker 6: Where do you live?

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Speaker 7: Hy?

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Speaker 6: Is that near Auckland?

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Speaker 7: Uh?

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Speaker 11: No, it's out of.

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Speaker 6: Oh there? Okay, See if you can go to a

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Speaker 6: local the Hamilton Botannic Gardens would problems probably have really

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Speaker 6: good examples of what you can plant in your area

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Speaker 6: and find a really nice native thing that you can

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Speaker 6: use as a hedge. And to me quite honest, the

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Speaker 6: cuttings go. Here's my recipe, half botting mix, half fine pumas,

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Speaker 6: and probably it's the lack of the potting miss mix

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Speaker 6: that caused it to dry out too quick. Your your cuttings,

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Speaker 6: you know what I mean, And that's why they failed.

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Speaker 3: Okay, ex no, you know everything you can do it

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Speaker 3: probably not where Ian thought the conversation was going to go,

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Speaker 3: But as soon as he said, Lily Pili I'm going

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Speaker 3: to I was like, Hey, I'm wondering how long it's

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Speaker 3: going to take for the hammer drops any gues? Yeah,

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Speaker 3: not a great plant.

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Speaker 6: I might as well be honest about that.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely it is. Yeah, yeah, No, I mean anyone I

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Speaker 3: know who's put on lipoli hedges it just Ton pain, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and contributing to, you know, the spirad of metal rust,

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Speaker 3: which is not a great thing. So yeah, you're right,

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Speaker 3: let's let's get rid of the damn thing. There you go, right,

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Speaker 3: A very quick final call from you, Roger, how are you? Sir?

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Speaker 12: Oh coo moya one minds lives in our isn't.

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Speaker 6: Sorry? Sorry I could didn't get that.

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Speaker 12: Sorry, one unranger knew and fun guard and one blows

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Speaker 12: to believe and one loss leaves yet oh that.

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Speaker 6: Could be because it's a different genetic genetic genetic species

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Speaker 6: if you like. And also you're fertilized them both, have you. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: well then they should be going all right, don't worry,

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Speaker 6: it's just a matter of time. They might be a

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Speaker 6: couple of weeks late.

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Speaker 3: There you are, thank you don't always have to freak

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Speaker 3: out a that's.

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Speaker 6: Right, certainly not.

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Speaker 3: Stay calm and yours too. In fact, let's do it

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Speaker 3: again next week. Take care of mate, all the best now.

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Speaker 3: Last week, a couple of weeks ago on the show,

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Speaker 3: we did a little giveaway from my mates at Roobe,

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Speaker 3: which was great and Cheryl was the winner of that,

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Speaker 3: and as it happens, she lived not too far from

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Speaker 3: where I had to run some errand, so I dropped

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Speaker 3: in to see her last Sunday, which was delightful and

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Speaker 3: a very worthy recipient of that prize pack from Raobi,

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Speaker 3: so that was a big pleasure. That was lovely. Actually

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Speaker 3: last week Cheryl having a bit of a chat with you,

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Speaker 3: and actually turns out today's my nephew next birthday, so

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Speaker 3: I'm going to embarrass him by saying happy birthday and

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Speaker 3: lots of love.

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Speaker 2: Mate.

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Speaker 3: Right, let's go and do this all again next Sunday.

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Speaker 3: Have a great week and we will see you, Oh Joseph.

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Speaker 3: Technical Dreamcoat on at the Art Center starts on Friday, Friday,

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Speaker 3: Saturday Sunday. Get your tickets.

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Speaker 1: For more from the Resident Builder with Peter Wolfcamp, listen

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