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Speaker 1: International correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance, Peace of Mind

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Speaker 1: for New Zealand Business. Dan Linton's a US correspondence with

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Speaker 1: US Now Dan, Hello.

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Speaker 2: Hey, can we just say what a brilliant marketer Taylor

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Speaker 2: Swift is releasing that just moments after the debate came out?

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Speaker 1: Well, yes she is, you're right, But what I wanted

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Speaker 1: immediately was does she take the headlines away from the

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Speaker 1: fact that Donald Trump said some stupid stuff and therefore

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Speaker 1: not really helped, like you know what I mean? Like,

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Speaker 1: would it have been better she did for twenty four

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Speaker 1: hours so he could really wallow in his pet's comment.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right. I guess she's probably gonna steal a

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Speaker 2: little bit to you know, because she's hopped on the

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Speaker 2: bandwagon like that. But you know that the Harris campaign said,

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Speaker 2: we had no idea that she was going to do

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Speaker 2: this at all. At this point in time. There was

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Speaker 2: a lot of speculation that she was going to do it.

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Speaker 2: It was just when, not if.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, let's be honest about it. Taylor's doing it for

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Speaker 1: Taylor's sake. This is not about helping KRMLO. It's about

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Speaker 1: making Taytay look good. Now, what do you think who

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Speaker 1: won the debate.

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Speaker 2: I think, hands down it was Harris. Really was interesting though.

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Speaker 2: I had an instapol on my ex account right now

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Speaker 2: and seventy eight percent thought that Trump won the debate.

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Speaker 2: And there were a few, including some writers with Newsweek,

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Speaker 2: who said that he won the debate because they thought

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Speaker 2: that that Kamala Harris was not authentic and that the

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Speaker 2: moderators David Mure and Lindsay Davis were very biased and

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Speaker 2: kind of short up Harris's performance. And I have to agree,

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Speaker 2: I was not impressed with the moderators at all this

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Speaker 2: this time.

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Speaker 1: Why not? What did they do?

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Speaker 2: They got you goat? I thought they were well. First

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Speaker 2: of all, I thought they were very leaning towards Kamala Harris.

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Speaker 2: I thought they pushed more on the follow up questions

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Speaker 2: when they did do them, and it wasn't as often

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Speaker 2: as they should towards Donald Trump. And I thought that

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Speaker 2: their questions just weren't as solid as they could be.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's probably fair. I suppose they corrected him a

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Speaker 1: couple of times factually and not at all with him,

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Speaker 1: but then he was the one who is known to

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Speaker 1: be the liar. The thing that I think is that

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Speaker 1: she the thing that counted against her the most was

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Speaker 1: that her performance was only really about a four out

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Speaker 1: of five, because there were times where I felt she

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Speaker 1: sort of faulted and looked like she was trying to

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Speaker 1: remember what she's supposed to say. Did you pick up

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Speaker 1: on that?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I agree that. And I'm going to be listening

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Speaker 2: when Barry talks about this because I'll be anxious to

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Speaker 2: hear what he has to say about this. I think

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Speaker 2: she did do that. I think she seemed a little

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Speaker 2: nervous at first, but she was a lot more confident

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Speaker 2: overall than I expected. And I would have to say

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Speaker 2: she came in as an underdog, and she remained calm

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Speaker 2: a lot of the time, and I think a lot

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Speaker 2: of her previous district attorney experience came into play here.

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Speaker 2: And she reminded me at times that she was almost

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Speaker 2: like she was talking to a jury, whereas I think

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Speaker 2: Trump for the first ten minutes or so, it was okay,

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Speaker 2: but then he was very angry. It was very off topic,

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Speaker 2: and he seemed to be grabbing at anything and everything.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and do you know what, just the optics like

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Speaker 1: just when you looked at the camera, just looked at

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Speaker 1: what was happening on your television screen. Here you had

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Speaker 1: this bright and sunny woman smiling, and you had this

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Speaker 1: old guy brooding and looking delicious.

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Speaker 2: Yes. And the comment about eating pets, when he was

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Speaker 2: referring to the Haitian immigrants eating the dogs and the

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Speaker 2: pets in Springfield, Ohio, I mean that's been confirmed. I

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Speaker 2: don't know how many times that that was not true,

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Speaker 2: but he said it, and it immediately started trending, and

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Speaker 2: somebody is going to make a fortune off mugs and

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Speaker 2: t shirts with that with that comment.

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Speaker 1: But then, I don't think this changes anybody's opinion. I

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Speaker 1: think if you think that, if you want to vote

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Speaker 1: for Trump, you already know that he says lunatic stuff,

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Speaker 1: So it's not going to change your mind. And if

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Speaker 1: you want to vote for Kamala because of what she

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Speaker 1: stands for, her crappy performance, like her four out of

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Speaker 1: five performance was met crappy is also not going to

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Speaker 1: put you off as it.

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Speaker 2: No, I think you're right. I think if you're if

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Speaker 2: you're a Trump in the Trump camp right now, you're

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Speaker 2: going to remain in the Trump camp. If you believe

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Speaker 2: in fracking, You're going to believe in fracking. If you

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Speaker 2: are are for abortion or against abortion, you're gonna your

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Speaker 2: mind's already set on this. It was just a chance

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Speaker 2: to see how both of these two would go head

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Speaker 2: to head in what might just be their only presidential

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Speaker 2: debate between now and November.

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Speaker 1: Milania turn up.

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Speaker 2: She did not, which was interesting because they made an

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Speaker 2: announcement about two or three hours ahead of the debate

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Speaker 2: that she wasn't going to show up tonight. And of

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Speaker 2: course there was no audience there, which I think, honestly,

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Speaker 2: and in the spin room afterwards, they were just even

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Speaker 2: Republicans and this was a disaster for Trump, but I

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Speaker 2: think he would have played much better with an audience there.

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Speaker 2: And then of course you've got Malania, who's also making

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Speaker 2: her headlines because she wants more to come out assassination

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Speaker 2: attempt against her husband and these videos that are being

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Speaker 2: released on social media. She's got a book that's coming out.

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Speaker 2: I got to tell you, though, these commercials, this is

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Speaker 2: just a very clever marketing campaign. It reminds me of

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Speaker 2: the old Elizabeth Taylor commercial that she used to do

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Speaker 2: for her perfume. I think it was called White Diamonds.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's a very stylized kind of campaign that

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Speaker 2: she's doing, but it's all for this book right now,

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Speaker 2: and I think that got kind of pushed to the

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Speaker 2: back burner after the debate tonight.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, hey, Dan, thank you. Has always really appreciate your time,

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Speaker 1: and good luck withering the remaining weeks of this campaign.

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Speaker 1: That's Dan Mitchinson, the US correspondent who's watching it for us.

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