1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:05,960 Speaker 1: You're trusted Hove for news, sport, entertainment, opinion, and Mike 2 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:10,719 Speaker 1: the Mic asking Breakfast with the Defender, Embraced the impossible news, 3 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 1: togs End Billy. 4 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:14,040 Speaker 2: And while Kerman seems a show of winners and good news. Today, 5 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:17,120 Speaker 2: retail confidence multi year high as the events industry has 6 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:19,759 Speaker 2: brought in a fortune. Hamish Kerg got the Supreme Helberg 7 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 2: last night, Melissa Lyon master Cheff Hall's taste of arts 8 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 2: into a foody word after eight Catherines in Europe, Rod 9 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 2: does the United Kingdom for US Lasky by Tuesday morning, 10 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 2: seven past six. There is a court case that started 11 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:34,519 Speaker 2: in California last week that will continue into this It's 12 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 2: being watched globally. They're calling it Landmark. KGM is the 13 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:41,480 Speaker 2: plaint of KGM as a person they refer to by initials. 14 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:44,159 Speaker 2: The big players in social media are being sued for 15 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 2: making addictive algorithms that suckers into a dependency. We can't 16 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 2: escape from Snapchat and TikTok settle, but meta is there. 17 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 2: Zuckerberg is apparently going to testify. Instagram's boss already has. 18 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 2: My guess is KGM will lose. It's not impossible that 19 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 2: in the first chapter at LEAs they may have found 20 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 2: an interventionist court that is prepared to have a crack 21 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 2: and find guilt. After all, there in court in California 22 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:08,840 Speaker 2: for a reason. If you want liberal and interventionists, that's 23 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 2: where you head. I would have thought proving an algorithm 24 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:14,199 Speaker 2: is addictive as a very high bar. But increasingly around 25 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:16,959 Speaker 2: the world, whether through court or government, the battle or 26 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 2: fight back against social media and big tech is very 27 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 2: definitely on, and unlike a lot of court action in America, 28 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:25,039 Speaker 2: should Meta and Co lose, it will be appealed and 29 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:27,200 Speaker 2: if necessary, all the way to these supreme courts. So 30 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:29,679 Speaker 2: this has got a long, long way to go. But 31 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 2: as Instagram's head, a guy called Adam Maserri said, and 32 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:35,639 Speaker 2: this is why I think KGM will lose. At some point, 33 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:38,480 Speaker 2: you have to recognize social media as a personal choice, 34 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 2: and social media can't be addictive. If it was, we 35 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:44,120 Speaker 2: all would be, and we're not. This may ultimately fall 36 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 2: into the growing category of social or moral or health issues, 37 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 2: whereby we look for a scapegoat based on our buyers 38 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 2: towards size. I mean, tech is big, the companies are rich, 39 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 2: They're an easy target. The fact Snapchat and TikTok settled 40 00:01:57,280 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 2: is because who needs the headache of a court battle, 41 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 2: not because they feel in it. Sort of guilt that, 42 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 2: of course, is the weak point of the judicial process. 43 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 2: Drags something out long enough, threatened enough reputational damage. A 44 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 2: checkbook is an easy decision. As I've said many times, 45 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:13,240 Speaker 2: I got no doubt Big Tech could be better corporate citizen. 46 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 2: They could do more to achieve less harm. But at 47 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 2: some point in this case is most likely an example 48 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 2: just pointing a finger for our own frailties will not 49 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:24,959 Speaker 2: fix the frailties. Only the lawyers win. 50 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 3: News of the world in ninety seconds. 51 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, related matters. The under five pm starmer starts his 52 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 2: week well still as pm, which is something I suppose. 53 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 2: So the plan appears to be distraction, both good and bad. 54 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 2: Good well social media band. 55 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 4: I can see the argument that a much more restrictive 56 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:47,920 Speaker 4: content based approach which doesn't necessarily cut out news and 57 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:51,240 Speaker 4: useful information. I think we need to test those options 58 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:54,519 Speaker 4: in the consultation. But whatever the outcome, it can't be nothing. 59 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 2: And the online safety campaign is they're all over that. 60 00:02:56,960 --> 00:03:00,359 Speaker 5: What we're calling for is that tech companies actually force 61 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 5: their own rules. You know all of our social media 62 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 5: platforms say that children under thirteen shouldn't beyond them. 63 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 3: That's their rules. 64 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:08,960 Speaker 5: But offcom's data shays there are two and a half 65 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:12,119 Speaker 5: million children young people on social media platforms. 66 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 2: They're not so good to humiliating backtown this morning over 67 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:18,239 Speaker 2: the local council vote delays. They're now not delayed because 68 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:19,360 Speaker 2: reform threatened to soon. 69 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:22,960 Speaker 6: We're going to avoid, for example, the ludicrous situation where 70 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 6: some cancers who have been elected for a four year 71 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 6: term of office, we're due to end up getting seven years, 72 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 6: three whole extra years in power without voters getting a 73 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 6: say so, being chaotic. 74 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 2: Then Iran, the Middle East end the border piece, the 75 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 2: border piece, first meeting is this week. Since Gaza isn't 76 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 2: quite where it needs to be. 77 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 7: We don't have a lot of time. 78 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:44,839 Speaker 1: Actually, we have quite the limited windows to make sure 79 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 1: that this process works, because otherwise the options will become 80 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 1: very very grim for everyone. 81 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 2: Same kind of applies to a run. 82 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 5: They have kind often the Trump. 83 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 8: I have no hope about Donald Trump. They could already 84 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 8: help many other Iranian people can do sanctions from outside. 85 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 8: They just want war, They want to destroy our country. 86 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 8: We don't want that, and. 87 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 2: In the States. Is it just meet or do the 88 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 2: feeds not seem to have the slightest clue about what's 89 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 2: happened to Savannah Guthrie's mum. 90 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 9: We still have hope and I wanted to see. 91 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 3: To whoever. 92 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 9: Has her or knows where she is. It's never too late. 93 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 2: Finally, Logan Paul is back for the most expensive trading 94 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 2: card ever. It's a Pokemon card. There were forty one 95 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:34,679 Speaker 2: copies of what was called the Picati Illustrator's Card. Only 96 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 2: one of those forty one was great at psaighteen, which 97 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:39,840 Speaker 2: is the highest quality for a trading card. Logan Paul 98 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:42,479 Speaker 2: bought that for eight point eight million back in twenty 99 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 2: twenty one, which was a record at the time. He's 100 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 2: just sold at the twenty seven point one, so eight 101 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 2: point eight the twenty seven point one plus the boxing money. Anyway, 102 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:53,480 Speaker 2: it was bought by a venture capitalist called Scaramuci. And 103 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 2: you go, well, hold on, do I know the name Scaramuchi? Yes, 104 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 2: you do know the name Scaramucci. He's the son of 105 00:04:57,279 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 2: Anthony Scaramucci, as. 106 00:04:58,400 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 10: In the Mucci. 107 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:02,560 Speaker 2: Here's the world, Japan's economy, and this is why I 108 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:04,360 Speaker 2: take each sees and she's got to rep the place 109 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 2: up zero point one quarter on quarter and year on year. 110 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 2: This is GDP so technically back into growth, technically missed expectations, 111 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 2: technically not a recession, but they're looking to do a 112 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 2: bit better. Twelve past six. 113 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio, how 114 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:26,599 Speaker 1: off my news talk seppy. 115 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 2: Actually, the other thing Star is talking about this morning 116 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:33,600 Speaker 2: is bringing forward to some defense spending. Had promised two 117 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 2: and a half percent of GDP by April of next year, 118 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:40,280 Speaker 2: then three percent by the end of next parliament. But 119 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 2: he's looking at that three percent by the end of 120 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 2: this current parliament, which would be some time before twenty 121 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:50,039 Speaker 2: twenty nine. Anyway, more with Rod later fifteen pers Sure 122 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:54,160 Speaker 2: in Partners Andrew teller Her, Welcome to Tuesday Morning Mike Services. 123 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 2: We're still an expansion, it still feels good. There's still 124 00:05:57,680 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 2: a flecker, that's still a vibe, there's still a green shoot. 125 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:01,040 Speaker 10: All of the above. 126 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:03,920 Speaker 11: However, I would say lots of There was lots of 127 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 11: data floating around yesterday, and the only thing I would 128 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:08,800 Speaker 11: say is that just on a sort of a more 129 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:11,920 Speaker 11: of a sort of helicopter view, it does look like 130 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:14,159 Speaker 11: the general data is taking just a little bit of 131 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 11: a breather from that sort of run generally of general 132 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:20,840 Speaker 11: economic data leading into Christmas that looked a little bit better, 133 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 11: So there's no reason to believe the momentum still isn't there. 134 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 11: But I think we are now going to need February 135 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 11: March to confirm that improving trend that we saw at 136 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 11: the end of twenty twenty five. 137 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 10: So yeah, services big part of the economy. 138 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 11: The B and Z Business New Zealand Performance of Services 139 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 11: Index printed at fifty point nine, so it's above that 140 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:43,480 Speaker 11: fifty benchmark that sings expansions yet all good, but slightly 141 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:45,119 Speaker 11: lower than the December print. 142 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 10: You've got the five sub indexes. 143 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:51,039 Speaker 11: Three of them, though, are under fifty, but the two 144 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 11: that are above fifty are activity, sales and new orders, 145 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:57,039 Speaker 11: So if they're the ones you really want to be 146 00:06:57,120 --> 00:06:57,800 Speaker 11: above fifty. 147 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:01,280 Speaker 10: Employment, they're still lagging a little bit. And for the first. 148 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 11: Time since mid twenty twenty three that we've had two 149 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 11: consecutive months above the break even fifty level, So yeah, 150 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 11: that is. 151 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 2: Good, excellent, And then what else have we got? We 152 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 2: got the sales card transactions and now that was a 153 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 2: bit flat. That was a bit damp, wasn't it, But wet? 154 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 11: Yes, So transaction data for January electronic card transactions a 155 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 11: little subdued, is how I describe it. Both total retail 156 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 11: and call retail sales were lower. So these are seasonally 157 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 11: adjusted Mike numbers as well, So it's not just about 158 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 11: the fact that it's January. Yeah, the question here is 159 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 11: what roll did the weather play in January? 160 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 10: Because it was a little bit awful. 161 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 11: But actually, Mike, that makes you think about February as well, 162 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 11: because February hasn't exactly been great either, has it. Look 163 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 11: total retail sales total retail electronic card transactions fell one 164 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 11: point one percent, seasonally adjusted, call retail declined zero point 165 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 11: nine percent. HOSPO fell two point one percent. You'd expect 166 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 11: that to be especially susceptible to poor weather. Look the trend, 167 00:07:56,760 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 11: the trend on retail sales has lifted, Mike, but it's 168 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 11: a bit of a hesit trend, which is we need 169 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 11: to see confirmation of it. And then, of course you 170 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 11: get to the Real Estate Institute of New Zealand data 171 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 11: sales and price data for January, again on a seasonally 172 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 11: adjusted basis, both sales activity and prices slipped a year 173 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 11: and year the house price index down zero point seven percent, 174 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 11: so house prices on a national basis still going sideways. 175 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 10: You've got some pretty notable regional divergence. 176 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 11: Allkland down two point six percent, but Canterbury of course 177 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 11: up two. 178 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:33,439 Speaker 10: Point eight percent. There is what we can point to, Mike. 179 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 11: There's a very healthy uptrended activity, so sales volumes increasing, 180 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 11: but you've still got this imbalance between how many sales 181 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 11: you've got and how much stuff you've got on the market. 182 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 10: So stock on the market. 183 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 11: And jam sales looked notably soft, even allowing for seasonality. 184 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:50,320 Speaker 10: That could have been weather as well. 185 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:52,959 Speaker 11: It's only one month though, you don't want to extrapolate 186 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 11: that out history tales is February March. 187 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:56,559 Speaker 10: Do see activity pick up again. 188 00:08:57,200 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 11: Just wonder whether or not the interest right outlook changing 189 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 11: is having any effect. 190 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 10: We'll see over February much whether that's a fact. 191 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 2: Dude. We'll stand by for that tomorrow for some commentary contact, 192 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 2: so reporting season contact. We got Mike Fujon after seven 193 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 2: o'clock this morning, along with the Freightways rock Star NA two. 194 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:14,080 Speaker 2: They're all good, weren't they all good? 195 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:14,320 Speaker 10: Mike? 196 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 11: Looking for capital Contact Energy. That was the big news 197 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 11: that greeted us as we came into it yesterday. So 198 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:22,840 Speaker 11: it's strong half year financial results, So Mike should have 199 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:25,080 Speaker 11: some he should feel very good about that. But we've 200 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 11: got this big capital raising. I think it's fair to 201 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 11: say analysts weren't expecting this. So four hundred and fifty 202 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 11: million fully underwritten institutional offer, seventy five million retail offer. 203 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:38,320 Speaker 11: The reason they're looking for this from selling share or 204 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 11: selling equity is they've got projects progressing a little bit 205 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 11: quicker than expected. So it's all about funding or accelerating 206 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 11: their renewable renewable energy generation development. So that's geothermal, you've 207 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 11: got wind, You've got solar. 208 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 10: You've got batteries, big battery. 209 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:57,199 Speaker 11: Development down near Glenbrook that's two hundred megawatt. You've got 210 00:09:57,200 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 11: a big solar farm just north of cal Copper Copper 211 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:02,839 Speaker 11: Glory a one hundred and fifty megawat Solo Fum there. Look, 212 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 11: they previously indicated that these would be funded from their 213 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:08,960 Speaker 11: balance sheet. Look, I think this is a good confident 214 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 11: move from management and the board. Mike follows the acquisition 215 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 11: of Manowa Energy. Basically it illustrates their belief that this 216 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:18,840 Speaker 11: whole bunch of stuff will will push the growth of 217 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 11: electricity demand. 218 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 10: And yes, what can you say? 219 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:25,320 Speaker 11: Freightways good number and a two milkshare price up five percent. 220 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 10: So it's a good day, I reckon. We love good. 221 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 2: Days, Yeah, love good days. What are the numbers? 222 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:32,600 Speaker 11: Well, we've got nothing out of the US because they've 223 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 11: got President's Day there. But if I just look at 224 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 11: the futures markets that were training yesterday had small games 225 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:40,080 Speaker 11: in the Dow Jones s and P five hundred, small 226 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 11: fall in the Nasdaq, the forty one hundred though they 227 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:45,840 Speaker 11: were up quarter percent ten four hundred and seventy three. 228 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:49,200 Speaker 11: The necket was down quarter percent fifty six thousand, eight 229 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:51,960 Speaker 11: hundred and six. We've got nothing out of the Shanghai 230 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 11: composite this week because they're having the big week off 231 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 11: for Chinese New Year. But the Aussie's yesterday game zero 232 00:10:57,120 --> 00:11:00,839 Speaker 11: point two two percent eight nine three seven. And unfortunately 233 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:02,960 Speaker 11: though we fell on the ins ofex fifty, we fell 234 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 11: eighty points despite the good results, zero point sixty one 235 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 11: percent thirteen one hundred and seventeen. Here we dollar point 236 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 11: six oh three to two on the wholesale markets against 237 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 11: the US point eight five two eight against the oussie 238 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:19,679 Speaker 11: point five zero eight nine euro point. 239 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:23,079 Speaker 10: Four four to six against the pound ninety two points six. 240 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:25,320 Speaker 10: So Japanese yen, what have we got? 241 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:25,680 Speaker 8: Gold? 242 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:28,440 Speaker 11: Just under five thousand and four nine eight eight for 243 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 11: announced and Brent crud sixty eight dollars and forty eight 244 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 11: cents yev Grode see you tomorrow. Andrew Kellah's sure and 245 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 11: partner's tasking Heirbnb. This is globally revenues up twelve percent. 246 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 11: That's two point seven eight billion, Thank you very much. 247 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 11: That's US dollars. 248 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 2: There's one hundred and twenty one point nine let's call it, 249 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 2: one hundred and twenty two million nights and seats booked. 250 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:51,440 Speaker 2: This is just in the fourth quarter, and that's up 251 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 2: ten percent. So we are traveling, we are holidaying. We're 252 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 2: having a good time at A six twenty one. You're 253 00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 2: a news talk zbo. 254 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered 255 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:07,839 Speaker 1: by News Talks at Me. 256 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 2: Maybe Presidents David. They're calling it a new housing crisis 257 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 2: as well. The realties that are calling it are January 258 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 2: home sales of tank more than eight percent. New housing crisis, 259 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:20,959 Speaker 2: is there on the brighter side Navarro, who is Trump's 260 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 2: trade advisor, And I think this is wise. They're suggesting 261 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 2: for these data centers. And if you follow data centers 262 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:30,679 Speaker 2: and their requirement for water and electricity, what happens when 263 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:33,959 Speaker 2: data centers come to town is everybody's power bill goes 264 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 2: through the roof, and Americans are sick of it. And 265 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 2: so they're saying, what we're going to need to do 266 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:41,440 Speaker 2: is they need to pay not only pay for the 267 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:43,559 Speaker 2: electricity they're using on the grid, but they have to 268 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:46,080 Speaker 2: pay for the resiliency that they're affecting as well. They 269 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 2: need to pay for the water. So there's activity action 270 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:50,439 Speaker 2: here going forward. So in other words, you want to 271 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:52,960 Speaker 2: set up a data center and your meta, you can 272 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:55,440 Speaker 2: afford to do it. You pay the bill, not everyone else. 273 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 2: So I think that'll play fairly well. 274 00:12:57,559 --> 00:13:02,600 Speaker 12: Six twenty five trending now with Warehouse the Real House 275 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 12: of Fragrances. 276 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 2: Now, but I know the record broken for a trailer. 277 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 2: See maybe trailers are the new shows. Maybe a trailer 278 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:09,959 Speaker 2: is all we need now. This is Young Sherlock Laters 279 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:11,080 Speaker 2: from Guy Ritchie. 280 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 3: Ex Sorry to bother you, sir. 281 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:13,719 Speaker 13: What is it? 282 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:14,439 Speaker 14: A bomb? 283 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 3: A bomb? A bomb is an incendive at advice. I 284 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 3: don't want a bloody bomb. Why would anybody want to 285 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 3: do that? Or a smart boy work it out? 286 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 15: Yeah, when you have the niminas, would be impossible. 287 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 3: Whatever remains that must be the truth? Do I love 288 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 3: a secret passage? I'm going to solve this together, homes 289 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:42,719 Speaker 3: let me illuminature. 290 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 2: You have no idea? 291 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 3: What's her Stakehore? 292 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 2: I feel as though I should thank you in saving 293 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 2: me from a life of sheer boredom. 294 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 3: You are most welcome. 295 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 2: Guy Richie is brilliant, doesn't it. You never get sick 296 00:13:56,640 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 2: of Guy Richie so far has been view two hundred 297 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 2: and twenty three million times in the last seven That's 298 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:06,679 Speaker 2: Prime's most watched trailer ever. Fine Stiffin don't know the 299 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 2: name anyway, He's the young Sherlock Holmes. It's out March four. 300 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 2: Morgan News this morning on the economy, the events business. 301 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:16,200 Speaker 2: And this is interesting because for a while there we 302 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 2: figured we'd only ever meet on zoom ever again, but 303 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 2: it's back. It's contributed almost a billion to the economy, 304 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 2: and the amount that people spend seems to be quite 305 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 2: a lot. As in, when you go to a conference, 306 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 2: you seem to go you go large anyway, you're spending thousand. 307 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 2: So we'll get the numbers on that shortly. And that's 308 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 2: before by the way, this is the past year. This 309 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 2: is before the convention center in Auckland's even been opened, 310 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 2: and they've got was it when they opened it the 311 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 2: other day they said they'd already got one hundred and 312 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 2: twenty bookings for the year, which struck me as being 313 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 2: relatively successful. So that's good. The aforemention of Mike Fuge 314 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 2: out of contact. So the money. But here's the problem 315 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 2: with your power companies. He'll explain it, and I'll put 316 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 2: that when your profit goes up forty four percent, which 317 00:14:57,280 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 2: is what it has obviously you he was a punter 318 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 2: and our power bill we go, well, hold on, mate, 319 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 2: what's the story here? And so he'll need to explain 320 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 2: some of that. And Melissa Lyong as in you know food, 321 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 2: she's with us after eight. 322 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 1: The newsmakers and the personalities, the big names talk to 323 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 1: Mike the mic asking breakfast with Bailey's real estate altogether 324 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 1: better across residential, commercial and rural news talk said been thought. 325 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 2: We brought a counting up with Katherine shortly France Rubio 326 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 2: in Europe, the much talked about speech over the weekend 327 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 2: at the Munich Get Together, and whether or not in 328 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:35,280 Speaker 2: America actually likes Europe and where we go on all 329 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 2: sorts of things like the war in the Middle East, 330 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:39,840 Speaker 2: except for so more shortly back home though at twenty 331 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 2: three minutes away from seven turns out. If you hold 332 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:44,960 Speaker 2: and host stuff, it's good for the economy. The business 333 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 2: events sector contributed almost a billion, nine hundred and twenty 334 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 2: five million, to be precise, to the economy last year 335 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 2: generate one point five million visitor night spend per Delicate 336 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 2: was strong to Lisa Hopkins as the chief executive at 337 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:58,359 Speaker 2: Business Events and is with us Lisa. 338 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 16: Morning, good morning. 339 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 2: Is this a growth story? There's more weathers came from. 340 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 16: Absolutely, there's more where this comes from. And I think 341 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 16: you know, this was a data set that was developed 342 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 16: during a year which you know started quite well, ended 343 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 16: very well, but in the middle was quite soft. So 344 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 16: I think we've got some more good news to look 345 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 16: forward to for the rest of the year. 346 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 2: Where does the convention center and Auckland fit into this? 347 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:27,960 Speaker 2: Does this provide or drive new business or does it 348 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 2: just divert business from wherever it is now to a 349 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:30,560 Speaker 2: new place. 350 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 16: No, it absolutely drives new business might because what we've 351 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 16: now got is we've now got quite a very strong 352 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 16: sweeter convention centers across the country, which just gives us 353 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 16: a wider opportunity or broader opportunity to take new business 354 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:54,120 Speaker 16: of different sizes, different needs, different requirements. So we're really 355 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 16: in a growth mode with the engine ICC now coming 356 00:16:58,200 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 16: online as well. 357 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 2: How much of it's how much of its international. 358 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 16: So if you it was quite interesting when the results 359 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 16: came through. So we had about fifty five percent that 360 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:15,480 Speaker 16: came through from domestic delegates and around about twenty three 361 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 16: percent were international and the rest twenty two percent came 362 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 16: from local delegates. So definitely the opportunity and the growth 363 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 16: opportunity is in the international space because that's the piece 364 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 16: which is really infinite in terms of where the opportunity lies. 365 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:37,439 Speaker 16: And with the new convention center, we've now got an 366 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 16: option to bring in even larger conferences. 367 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 2: That thirty seven hundred and twenty six bucks that the 368 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 2: international delegate spends. Does that incorporate what they may do 369 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 2: after they've left the conference, if they take a holiday 370 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:48,960 Speaker 2: that sort of thing. 371 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:53,160 Speaker 16: Or not, Yes, it does because you know, and these 372 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:57,440 Speaker 16: are obviously average spenser. Yes, it does. So we were 373 00:17:57,560 --> 00:18:01,480 Speaker 16: based on the data that we got average international delegate 374 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 16: spends just over eight nights here in New Zealand, and 375 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:09,400 Speaker 16: of that only about four of that would be at conference, 376 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:11,960 Speaker 16: and then on average another four would be around the country. 377 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 2: Because that's solid numbers. Thirty seven hundred dollars is a 378 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:17,440 Speaker 2: solid spin. In fact, even domestic at twenty one hundred. 379 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:19,879 Speaker 2: I I was surprised about. I mean, that's a good spend, 380 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:21,440 Speaker 2: isn't it. 381 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:23,399 Speaker 16: It is a good spend. And of course that also 382 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:27,960 Speaker 16: includes a delegates registration fee because that registration fee also 383 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:32,840 Speaker 16: gets spent in the economy going towards other businesses and 384 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 16: other services that are required to deliver that conference. So 385 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 16: it's a really good news story. 386 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:41,680 Speaker 2: Good to talk. Appreciated very much, Lisa Hopkins, who's the 387 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:44,399 Speaker 2: chief executive of Business Events. Isn't that good? Speaking of 388 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 2: which I must congratulate this morning. I'm sorry this is 389 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 2: an Auckland story, but you know, we're all we're all 390 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 2: a village. It takes a village to run a city, 391 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 2: or it takes a village to run a country, or 392 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:57,720 Speaker 2: whatever the hell Aoray said, anyway, Queen's Arcade, which is 393 00:18:57,720 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 2: a beautiful little piece of real estate at the bottom 394 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:02,359 Speaker 2: Queen Street. And I don't want to bore you witless 395 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:04,440 Speaker 2: with my views on Queen Street, because I've done that previously. 396 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 2: But my God needs an injection of life. And some 397 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:09,480 Speaker 2: of the internationals are there, and some of the big players, 398 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 2: you know, your guccies are there, and your prietors are there. 399 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 2: My old mate Eddie, who runs a thing called Faraday's, 400 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:18,359 Speaker 2: has taken the what I would argue is the gamble 401 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 2: of a lifetime and he's opening up a major department 402 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 2: store sometime later this year in Queen Street. So there's 403 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:25,399 Speaker 2: a lot of people going, we're going to go for this, 404 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:27,320 Speaker 2: and we're going to take a risk, and we're going 405 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 2: to fire this place up. And I couldn't be more 406 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 2: admiring of them. And this morning, the Davis family, who 407 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 2: own the arcade, the Queen's Arcade, they're injecting millions to 408 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:40,440 Speaker 2: turn that into construction starts first of April twenty twenty 409 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:45,360 Speaker 2: six into a boutique, high end retail outlet. I would 410 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:47,879 Speaker 2: argue it probably already has been behind in retail outlet, 411 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:49,960 Speaker 2: but Nevertheless, there's spending more money to make it even 412 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:53,240 Speaker 2: more retail and more high end and I hope more successful. 413 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 2: So well done then nineteen to two. 414 00:19:56,480 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking Breakfast Full Show podcast radio powered by 415 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:02,200 Speaker 1: News Talks. 416 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:02,159 Speaker 13: It be. 417 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:06,119 Speaker 2: Now. If you're a fisherman, a diver or a kayakka. 418 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 2: Are you heading out in the old water this summer? 419 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:10,200 Speaker 2: Keep an eye up for the boy boy? 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So preparation is the key to staying safe. 432 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 2: So before you push off, or paddle out, or drop 433 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:48,119 Speaker 2: a line, or remember be sure before you leave the shore. 434 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 13: There. 435 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 2: Mike just thought the events on folding in Wellington a 436 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:54,919 Speaker 2: glimpse into what a Greens led government would look like. 437 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:57,680 Speaker 2: Money spent on cycle ways rather than core infrastructure and 438 00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:00,480 Speaker 2: then crying foul and environmental disasters occur as a result 439 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:03,159 Speaker 2: of shifting blame. You shouldn't worry about a Green's government. 440 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 2: The pole confirmed it yet again last night four poles 441 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 2: of late. Three of the four have the government returned, 442 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:11,919 Speaker 2: one has a dead heat and there is a glaring, 443 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 2: glaring error in last night's pole that I will come 444 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:18,280 Speaker 2: back to in just a couple of moments. 445 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 17: Six forty five International correspondence with ends and Eye Insurance, 446 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:24,880 Speaker 17: Peace of mind for New Zealand business to our. 447 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:27,640 Speaker 2: Friend Captain Field and France, A very good morning to you. 448 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:29,200 Speaker 13: Good morning mate. 449 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:31,240 Speaker 2: So I am interested in the overarching view of what 450 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:34,359 Speaker 2: Rubio said over the weekend because I read several different 451 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 2: reviews and depending on who wrote them, it was either 452 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:39,760 Speaker 2: it was a Valentine's message that was, you know, he 453 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:43,479 Speaker 2: was the velvet glove to JD's iron fist, or it 454 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:45,440 Speaker 2: was a little bit harder than they thought. So what's 455 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:47,119 Speaker 2: the vibe? What did he say, and how did it 456 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 2: go down? 457 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:51,159 Speaker 13: That's right, make I mean, the backdrop to all this was, 458 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:54,119 Speaker 13: as you rightly said jd Vance's speech to the Munich 459 00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:59,159 Speaker 13: Security Conference last year. Abrasive insulting were the words that 460 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:02,919 Speaker 13: the response to Jennie Vance. So everyone was waiting to 461 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:05,760 Speaker 13: see what Marco Rubio would come up with. So the 462 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 13: sort of phrases he came up with were saying that 463 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 13: the America and the Europeans share a common history, have 464 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:17,919 Speaker 13: got the shared cultural heritage and unbreakable link. Really just 465 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:21,159 Speaker 13: talking about far further back in history than just the 466 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 13: eighty years that there's been this alliance since the end 467 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 13: of the Second World War. Look a lot of bit 468 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:29,919 Speaker 13: more closely, Mike, and you do realize, and this is 469 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:33,640 Speaker 13: what's been said around most of Europe this morning, is 470 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:36,960 Speaker 13: that while he was speaking to an audience of one, 471 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:40,320 Speaker 13: and that one was Donald Trump, some of the themes 472 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 13: he talked about were real ideological themes that you see 473 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 13: among the MAGA crowd, your anti climate threats, that migration 474 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 13: is going to erase civilization, that there has to be 475 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 13: an end to mass migration. All that just talking about 476 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:01,760 Speaker 13: these types of things that really between the lines and 477 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:04,360 Speaker 13: you see, what he's talking about is a white Christian 478 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:09,359 Speaker 13: heritage that America would like to have alongside the European Union. 479 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:12,040 Speaker 13: The other point of the weekend was a lot of 480 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 13: Democrats from the US were at the Munich Security Conference. 481 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:18,639 Speaker 13: They were giving a different vision of America, and they 482 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 13: were holding what's called reassurance meetings, saying to everyone, listen, 483 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:25,160 Speaker 13: you know, there is life after Trump. Trump's not going 484 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:28,600 Speaker 13: to be there forever. That again didn't cut much of 485 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 13: mustard with the Europeans. There is a concern that, yes, 486 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:34,399 Speaker 13: Trump's time and office will come to an end, but 487 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 13: they're still concerned about the type of America that will emerge. 488 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:40,359 Speaker 2: Do you observe does anyone care? I mean Newsome was there. 489 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:44,720 Speaker 2: Is Newsome there because he is everyone assuming in Europe 490 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:45,680 Speaker 2: he's running in twenty eight. 491 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:49,760 Speaker 13: Yeah, everyone's assuming that he was a bit more polished 492 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:52,040 Speaker 13: around the edges at this conference. Remember he came to 493 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:54,200 Speaker 13: Davos when he was really a bit loud man. The 494 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:57,040 Speaker 13: Europeans didn't take it too kindly when he said that 495 00:23:57,040 --> 00:23:59,920 Speaker 13: that all the Europeans had just bowed down to try 496 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 13: were kissing the Emperor's ray, so that Europe needed to 497 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:06,200 Speaker 13: wake up. Well, Europe has woken up, and it does 498 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:08,160 Speaker 13: take Europe a long time to get its back together, 499 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:10,679 Speaker 13: but it is getting its backed together. This time he 500 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 13: was a little more polished. He was talking again, these 501 00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:16,520 Speaker 13: reassurance meetings. Listen, I'm someone you can do business with. 502 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:20,760 Speaker 2: Very interesting. The death of this young man and the 503 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:24,680 Speaker 2: claim from Macron's folks that this is all far left stuff. 504 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:27,080 Speaker 2: Has this got and the potential that I don't know, 505 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:31,920 Speaker 2: assumingly potentially murder charges alike. Has this got the potential 506 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:32,439 Speaker 2: to blow up? 507 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:36,680 Speaker 13: Difficult to say on this one, Mike, because it's far 508 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:41,239 Speaker 13: left agitators against far right agitators. What essentially happened was 509 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 13: late last week there was a meeting of the far 510 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:50,440 Speaker 13: left France Unvowed Party in Leon, central France. They had 511 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:55,560 Speaker 13: a group of their supporters doing security outside. A group 512 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:59,479 Speaker 13: from the far right, led by this young twenty three 513 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:02,719 Speaker 13: year old. The far right came to protest against this meeting. 514 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:06,359 Speaker 13: Violence broke out. At least six people attacked this group 515 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:10,399 Speaker 13: of far right and this young man. He went home, 516 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:13,320 Speaker 13: came back to hospital a couple of days later, and 517 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:17,919 Speaker 13: subsequently died of multiple head trauma. The whole point is 518 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 13: that we're going into municipal elections here in March. There's 519 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:25,399 Speaker 13: already tensions ahead of that twenty twenty seven presidential election. 520 00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:26,880 Speaker 5: So I think. 521 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 13: When Matt Cron in particular and the Interior minists come 522 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:33,160 Speaker 13: out and say, well, listen, this is all the problem 523 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:36,320 Speaker 13: of the far left, essentially, what they're saying is that 524 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:38,880 Speaker 13: is the party that concerns them the most, that they 525 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:42,119 Speaker 13: could be taking votes away from them, and look at them. 526 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:45,280 Speaker 13: Because the far right is still pretty popular in France, 527 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:46,840 Speaker 13: not so many want to pick a fight with it 528 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:47,240 Speaker 13: at the moment. 529 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:50,000 Speaker 2: Catch up on Thursday, Katherine appreciate. Catherine Field out of 530 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 2: France this morning. By the way. The former energy minister, 531 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:57,320 Speaker 2: a guy called Giloshinko, who was the energy minister for Ukraine. 532 00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:00,359 Speaker 2: He was forced out of government last year because he 533 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:02,720 Speaker 2: was among those officials you might remember who was tied 534 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:05,119 Speaker 2: up in this corruption scandal. Anyway, he was on a 535 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:07,760 Speaker 2: train over the weekend and that train was leaving the 536 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:10,359 Speaker 2: Ukraine and they don't know where he was going, but 537 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:12,440 Speaker 2: he was out of there. It was one hundred million 538 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:15,840 Speaker 2: dollar investment scheme back in November. Chief of staff Yumac 539 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 2: got wound up on that one anyway, this guy was 540 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:21,399 Speaker 2: on the train, so they've nabbed him. Wanted a word, 541 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:24,720 Speaker 2: So you know, for all of the goodwill around Ukraine 542 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:26,920 Speaker 2: and you know whose side you're on, and the war 543 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:31,359 Speaker 2: and stuff like that, we must never forget that you 544 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 2: wouldn't put the term squeaky clean in Ukraine together in 545 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:37,280 Speaker 2: a sentence. All that often ten away from six. 546 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:41,160 Speaker 3: The make Hosking breakfast with the Defender and News, Tom said. 547 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:42,720 Speaker 2: B what do you make of this? Number of people? 548 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 2: Wrote to me this morning Mike the one news Varian 549 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:47,640 Speaker 2: Pole last night fake news. The Murray Party only polled 550 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 2: at two percent. Mikey Sherman's given them six seats. This 551 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 2: could happen if they wouldn't sect an electorate seat. But 552 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:55,120 Speaker 2: let's not forget they expelled to MP so they don't 553 00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:57,879 Speaker 2: have succeeds. It's a very very good point. If you 554 00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:00,600 Speaker 2: chatch ubt it, it'll tell you that as of the 555 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:04,480 Speaker 2: twenty twenty three election, the Marory Party had six seats, 556 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:06,240 Speaker 2: but as of now, as of the poll, they don't. 557 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:08,320 Speaker 2: They've got four seats and they've got two independents and 558 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 2: that is not represented in this poll. The other thing, 559 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 2: I will continue to bang on about all year as 560 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:15,480 Speaker 2: no one cares whether the National went up or down 561 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:17,399 Speaker 2: two points or Labor went up all down two points. 562 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 2: All that matters is the center left the center right block. 563 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:22,639 Speaker 2: If National lose two to a fellow member of the 564 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,080 Speaker 2: coalition or Labor loes to to a fellow member of 565 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 2: the coalition, nothing changes. Add the seats together. That's all. 566 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:31,440 Speaker 2: The election is won and lost on add the seats together, 567 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:35,200 Speaker 2: and on this pole once again, the government gets reelected 568 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:36,960 Speaker 2: five minutes away from seven. 569 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 3: Are the ouse. 570 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:43,720 Speaker 1: It's the fizz with business fiber take your business productivity 571 00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 1: to the next. 572 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 2: Lest that before you get to the fact. Even if 573 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:48,960 Speaker 2: you give Marory party six seats, are they going to 574 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:52,400 Speaker 2: win six seats given what's happened And that's not reflected 575 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 2: in the poll either. Now, for the first time we 576 00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:56,840 Speaker 2: got numbers on how many keywis and businesses use the 577 00:27:57,080 --> 00:28:01,720 Speaker 2: top social media app for engagement and into it's Facebook. No, 578 00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:05,719 Speaker 2: it's not, No, it isn't. It's TikTok. So more than 579 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:09,240 Speaker 2: a third of our population is on TikTok. Two million 580 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:12,359 Speaker 2: of us are on the TikTok, most still using it 581 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:16,320 Speaker 2: for ame risks scrolling, though only sixty thousand businesses use 582 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:19,359 Speaker 2: the TikTok. Now we're coming around to the idea, apparently 583 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:21,640 Speaker 2: that social media can assist to business. Given every year 584 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:23,639 Speaker 2: for the last three years the number of local businesses 585 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:27,199 Speaker 2: on TikTok has increased by fifty percent. Currently there are 586 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:31,719 Speaker 2: four point one million New Zealand posts on TikTok. Harker 587 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:35,080 Speaker 2: Videos have a mass. Harker Videos is not a business, 588 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:38,280 Speaker 2: They're just videos at Harker have a massed about six 589 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 2: billion views globally. Some of our biggest brands are into it. 590 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:43,880 Speaker 2: The All Blacks have two million followers sixty seven million likes. 591 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:47,280 Speaker 2: The Warrior is the second most followed NRAL club on 592 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:49,200 Speaker 2: the platform. Not that that means anything. I mean, if 593 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:50,680 Speaker 2: you're on the TikTok to you start winning. 594 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:50,840 Speaker 8: Well. 595 00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:52,480 Speaker 2: I didn't see it in Napier over the weekend. I 596 00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:54,080 Speaker 2: note this morning, by the way, that Napier is back 597 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:56,560 Speaker 2: in the game. Very good turnout. I reckon. You can 598 00:28:56,600 --> 00:29:00,680 Speaker 2: take the Warriors anywhere in this country. It be christ you, 599 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:02,920 Speaker 2: it's Wellington or hawkes Bay, taking the Tower on a 600 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:05,200 Speaker 2: not big enough stadium, but anywhere with the decent sized 601 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 2: stadium donners and they would sell out, and that's how 602 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 2: hot the Warriors are at the moment. 603 00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:13,479 Speaker 18: Interesting given that statistically don't they hind to lose those games? 604 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:17,720 Speaker 2: I think that's fake news, Glynn, Dear. I don't know 605 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:20,160 Speaker 2: if I raised it yesterday, but if you don't count 606 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:24,840 Speaker 2: the last try that the Seagles scored and then you 607 00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:26,920 Speaker 2: had a care who put the ball between the posts 608 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:28,840 Speaker 2: virtually one but. 609 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:31,680 Speaker 18: The very White House Press secretary of you that. 610 00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:33,960 Speaker 2: This is our year. Have you got that out for 611 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:35,680 Speaker 2: the season, Glynn? This is our year? Have you got 612 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:36,840 Speaker 2: that one warmed up and set to go? 613 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:37,080 Speaker 19: Well? 614 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:42,520 Speaker 2: You should do. For goodness, Contact Big Profit, but they're 615 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:45,000 Speaker 2: spending and spending big. We'll get the details on your 616 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:47,600 Speaker 2: power bill and how this trends in twenty twenty six. 617 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:48,880 Speaker 2: Right after the news, which. 618 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:53,480 Speaker 1: Is next credible, compelling the breakfast show you can't bess 619 00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:57,520 Speaker 1: it's the Mic Hosking Breakfast with a Vita Retirement Communities, 620 00:29:57,760 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 1: Life Your Way News togs head. 621 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:02,000 Speaker 2: B seven past seven. So reporting season with the hope 622 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:03,480 Speaker 2: that some of the results will tell a story of 623 00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:06,560 Speaker 2: a turnaround for our economy in general. Contact Energy, first 624 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:08,440 Speaker 2: of the big four gen tailors to report half of 625 00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:11,240 Speaker 2: your results net profit up forty four percent. They've announced 626 00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:13,280 Speaker 2: that to half billion dollar, five hundred and twenty five 627 00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:16,000 Speaker 2: million dollar capital raised as well. Mike Fusia's the contact 628 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:17,480 Speaker 2: energy boss and is with us. Mike. 629 00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:20,080 Speaker 15: Morning, morning, Mike, how are you very well? 630 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:24,560 Speaker 2: What's the line between your profit and my power bill? 631 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:28,720 Speaker 15: The line between the profit and power bill? Obviously we 632 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:33,080 Speaker 15: have to collect power bills, but the primary reason for 633 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:35,920 Speaker 15: the profit increase is the investments we've made and the 634 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:40,280 Speaker 15: acquisition of Manoa. So it's not about putting up prices, 635 00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:42,440 Speaker 15: it's about investing for your own future. 636 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:45,120 Speaker 2: My person really was given you've made so much profit, 637 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:47,000 Speaker 2: why not put some back into my power bill and 638 00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:49,520 Speaker 2: make it a smaller bill. 639 00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:52,560 Speaker 15: Our Look, look the energy component of your power bills 640 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:55,360 Speaker 15: going up by ado less inflation. The important thing is 641 00:30:55,440 --> 00:31:00,600 Speaker 15: we have to invest and build more generation to meet 642 00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:04,000 Speaker 15: the growing demand in the New Zealand economy. So it's 643 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:07,080 Speaker 15: a fine balance. And I realize kiyhmes are doing it 644 00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:10,520 Speaker 15: tough and no one ever ever appreciates however, I get that, 645 00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:14,440 Speaker 15: But there's also that balance of investing for New Zealand's future. 646 00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:17,280 Speaker 2: Where is peak investment? I've got you with a battery, 647 00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:21,240 Speaker 2: I've got you a solar farm, I've got you geothermaling, 648 00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:24,160 Speaker 2: and I'm assuming the other gent tailors are doing something similar. 649 00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:26,680 Speaker 2: That's a lot of investment and a lot of infrastructure. 650 00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:28,600 Speaker 20: Yes, it is. 651 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:33,160 Speaker 15: It's about making New Zealand's energy supply more resilient, but 652 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:37,000 Speaker 15: it's also about meeting the demands of a growing economy, 653 00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:39,280 Speaker 15: and we can see that growth coming in. So it 654 00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:42,440 Speaker 15: is very much a signal of confidence in the New 655 00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:46,760 Speaker 15: Zealand economy as it grows. Energy demand and economic growth 656 00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:48,400 Speaker 15: are inextricably linked. 657 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:53,560 Speaker 2: How do you draw the line between what you're investing 658 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:57,840 Speaker 2: when that comes online, whether you've gone too far along 659 00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:01,280 Speaker 2: with what everybody else has done versus is the growing economy, 660 00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:04,160 Speaker 2: because it's the known's interest, at least of your yours, 661 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:05,719 Speaker 2: to build too much stuff. 662 00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:12,440 Speaker 15: No, it is, well, first, the most important thing is 663 00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:15,800 Speaker 15: you build enough. No one wants to build too much 664 00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:19,400 Speaker 15: and have our sets sitting there doing nothing. But at 665 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:22,360 Speaker 15: the moment, we can see that very strong demand growth 666 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:27,040 Speaker 15: coming down as people convert from gas to electricity major industries. 667 00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:31,680 Speaker 15: We can see new industries coming in and that confidence, 668 00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:35,480 Speaker 15: and we can see households both being built but also 669 00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:39,040 Speaker 15: converting and so we can see at least three two 670 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:44,840 Speaker 15: what hours by twenty thirty coming towards us, and that's 671 00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:47,320 Speaker 15: in a total demand of about forty so it's close 672 00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:51,000 Speaker 15: to ten percent in the next five years. So we 673 00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:53,280 Speaker 15: don't worry about building too much. The most important thing 674 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:57,200 Speaker 15: is actually building the capability and capacity to be able 675 00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:59,200 Speaker 15: to build and not build too little. 676 00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:01,960 Speaker 2: You mentioned the gap the LNG play by the government. 677 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,479 Speaker 2: Does that help? And the report I read the other day, 678 00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:07,360 Speaker 2: the suggestion is that the damage was done people who 679 00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:10,400 Speaker 2: saw gases at the dead end and they've moved on 680 00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:14,600 Speaker 2: to other things. So is the gas solving anything energy? 681 00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:17,640 Speaker 15: It helps with a security of supply, and that actually 682 00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:20,200 Speaker 15: helps you build more intermittent So if you're building more 683 00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:24,680 Speaker 15: intermittent wind and solar, you need firm ways of firming 684 00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:26,800 Speaker 15: it when the wind doesn't buy and the sun doesn't shine. 685 00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:30,960 Speaker 15: So LERG is about just ensures you've got another stringier 686 00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:35,880 Speaker 15: bow when we have dry years. And in that respect, 687 00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:38,000 Speaker 15: it's a sensible idea. 688 00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:40,000 Speaker 2: It's a good idea, and I assume you've got no 689 00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:42,040 Speaker 2: problem raising half a billion dollars. There's plenty of money 690 00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:43,160 Speaker 2: out there for this sort of stuff. 691 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:49,080 Speaker 15: It's always a privilege when you go out and you 692 00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:53,440 Speaker 15: get strong interests when you're raising money, and so yeah, 693 00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:56,000 Speaker 15: it's been a privilege over these last few days to 694 00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:59,840 Speaker 15: announce the capital raisin. The interest has been very positive 695 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:01,800 Speaker 15: and we appreciate that good stuff. 696 00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:03,480 Speaker 2: All right, nice to talk to you. Mike Fushu's the 697 00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:06,520 Speaker 2: contact Energy boss. This morning, eleven minutes past seven passal 698 00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:09,200 Speaker 2: late matters retail showing signs of rude health. New survey 699 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:12,000 Speaker 2: confidence at a two year high over three quarters seventy 700 00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:14,800 Speaker 2: six point seven percent to be precise, so they're confident 701 00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:16,680 Speaker 2: their business will survive in the next twelve months, up 702 00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:18,960 Speaker 2: from sixty five point five Also, first time since Q 703 00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:21,680 Speaker 2: one of twenty three more than fifty percent of retailers 704 00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:23,520 Speaker 2: met their sales target. So Carol and Young is the 705 00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:28,279 Speaker 2: Retail New Zealand CEO and as with us, Morning morning, Mike, 706 00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:30,520 Speaker 2: how are you. I'm extremely well. I remember the days 707 00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:32,359 Speaker 2: and it wasn't that long ago though dark COVID days, 708 00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:34,319 Speaker 2: when those sort of numbers, the seventy six was more 709 00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:36,640 Speaker 2: in the thirties and forties, no one knew whether anything 710 00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:39,200 Speaker 2: was going to last long. So things have turned around remarkably, 711 00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:39,640 Speaker 2: haven't they. 712 00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:42,440 Speaker 14: Yeah, Look, it's taken a while, hasn't it. You know, 713 00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:47,040 Speaker 14: last January we saw a five percent climb in card sales, 714 00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:49,800 Speaker 14: and this January is in a one point one percent 715 00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:53,320 Speaker 14: increase in card sales, So you know that that in 716 00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:56,160 Speaker 14: itself was another shift. It's another positive mood. We're off 717 00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:58,960 Speaker 14: a really low base, so you know, it's going to 718 00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:01,640 Speaker 14: take a while for business is to actually recover and 719 00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:05,560 Speaker 14: have some cash flow for you know, investing into the business. 720 00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:08,440 Speaker 14: But at least it's a sign that we're heading in 721 00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:10,640 Speaker 14: the right direction, which we've had a lot of talk 722 00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:13,280 Speaker 14: about that, haven't we. So good to see some data 723 00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:14,080 Speaker 14: that supports it. 724 00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:17,960 Speaker 2: The January spend yesterday was down a smidge. The suggestion 725 00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:22,160 Speaker 2: being is the direction of travel is solid. January might 726 00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:24,319 Speaker 2: be an outlier of feb and March will confirm that 727 00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:26,640 Speaker 2: we're actually on the right track. Is that the vibe 728 00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:27,680 Speaker 2: that you would get or not. 729 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:32,719 Speaker 14: Yeah, Well, what we actually look as we actually look 730 00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:35,239 Speaker 14: at the actual cards been rather than the season the 731 00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:38,440 Speaker 14: adjusted and the actual cards been January on January was 732 00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:41,840 Speaker 14: up one point one percent for core retail, So that's 733 00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:44,960 Speaker 14: a good point versus the season adjusted, which smooths everything 734 00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:48,160 Speaker 14: out whereas, because retail is cyclical, retailers want to look 735 00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:49,920 Speaker 14: at exactly what did I do last January? 736 00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:52,160 Speaker 2: And am I better than that this January. 737 00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:54,640 Speaker 14: Rather than kind of looking at a smooth space. So yeah, 738 00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:58,120 Speaker 14: it was actually really positive news for us. And you know, 739 00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:02,960 Speaker 14: last January, you know, for example, Apperil in twenty twenty 740 00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:08,840 Speaker 14: five was down five percent, but actually this January, Peril 741 00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:12,160 Speaker 14: was at one point four percent, So you know, up 742 00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:14,600 Speaker 14: one point four off. A low of minus five is 743 00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:17,000 Speaker 14: not you know, you're not going to be singing all 744 00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:18,799 Speaker 14: the way to the bank, but at least you're heading 745 00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:21,400 Speaker 14: in the right direction. And retailers have told us that 746 00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:24,480 Speaker 14: they have lowered their level of stock, so they are 747 00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:26,560 Speaker 14: selling their stocks that they've got, but they have a 748 00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:29,000 Speaker 14: lot lower level based on the fact that you know, 749 00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:30,239 Speaker 14: demand has been so low. 750 00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:32,160 Speaker 2: Good good on you, Carol and us to catch up. 751 00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:34,600 Speaker 2: Carol and young Retail New Zealand CEO. Daughter's got a 752 00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:36,799 Speaker 2: job in retail of late before the university comes back. 753 00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:39,879 Speaker 2: She says, place popping off. Boss was out for another 754 00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:41,759 Speaker 2: one of his corporate dinners the other night, says place 755 00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:44,399 Speaker 2: popping off. He says, everything's popping off at the moment 756 00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:46,520 Speaker 2: I don't have time to tell you what Tony Alexander 757 00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:49,920 Speaker 2: said about housing, but it's interesting, but I will get 758 00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:51,320 Speaker 2: to it. I need to talk about Lamb in a 759 00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:53,839 Speaker 2: moment fourteen past the. 760 00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:58,279 Speaker 1: High Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio, Howard By 761 00:36:58,320 --> 00:36:59,120 Speaker 1: News Talks. 762 00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:02,080 Speaker 2: At be It'd be very sad to have to tell 763 00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:04,520 Speaker 2: you that Robert Deval has just passed away at the 764 00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:06,600 Speaker 2: age of right old age of ninety five, So you 765 00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:10,279 Speaker 2: can't argue with that. Born in nineteen thirty one, Tom Hagen, godfather, 766 00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:15,879 Speaker 2: godfather to Max Sledge tender Mercies. No formal service will 767 00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:18,120 Speaker 2: be held that We'll have more on the life of 768 00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:21,560 Speaker 2: Robert de Val later on the program meantime this week 769 00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:23,640 Speaker 2: it is I bet you don't know this. One hundred 770 00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:25,640 Speaker 2: and forty four years since the first shipment of frozen 771 00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:28,560 Speaker 2: Lamb left Port Charmers for London. It's now part of 772 00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:30,600 Speaker 2: a sixty billion dollar food and fiber sector, of course 773 00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:32,359 Speaker 2: for our country, and UK remains one of the most 774 00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:34,680 Speaker 2: important and premier markets for our Lamb and Melanie Browns, 775 00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:37,080 Speaker 2: a Kibi chef in London, does a lot with Lamb 776 00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:40,120 Speaker 2: and as well as Melanie Morning Morning. Mike how are 777 00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:42,640 Speaker 2: you very well? Indeed, tell me about the quality story 778 00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:45,760 Speaker 2: of New Zealand lamb versus your standard bog standard British 779 00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:48,879 Speaker 2: lamb versus Roman lamb or Albanian lamb or whatever other 780 00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:51,000 Speaker 2: lamb you can buy in London. 781 00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:55,239 Speaker 21: Oh, we don't have that long, but just a little 782 00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:57,319 Speaker 21: bit of a history on why New Zealand lands so 783 00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:01,160 Speaker 21: well received in the UK. There is such a wonderful 784 00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:03,319 Speaker 21: presence of New Zealand lamb over here. I think it 785 00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:08,040 Speaker 21: counts about fifteen percent of whatship from New Zealand. And 786 00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:11,920 Speaker 21: for me, it's that kind of mild, delicate flavor that 787 00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:15,319 Speaker 21: we get in New Zealand lamb that is very very 788 00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:19,879 Speaker 21: present and almost you know, when you look at the 789 00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:22,040 Speaker 21: UK lamb, it's a little bit more gameier, it's a 790 00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:26,240 Speaker 21: little more richer, and that's all down to the beautiful 791 00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:29,520 Speaker 21: grass fed lamb that we receive from New Zealand. 792 00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:32,360 Speaker 2: Do you still have pushback from the British farmer in general? 793 00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:35,719 Speaker 9: A little bit? 794 00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:38,160 Speaker 21: You know, in the culinary world, we're very lucky to 795 00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:43,120 Speaker 21: be exposed to so many amazing producers and people from 796 00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:45,440 Speaker 21: New Zealand who are really pushing it in our environment 797 00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:45,919 Speaker 21: over here. 798 00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:47,560 Speaker 9: So you know, we're very fortunate. 799 00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:49,920 Speaker 2: What do you pay for a leg of lamb in 800 00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:52,839 Speaker 2: Britain these days? I mean, obviously it depends on where 801 00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:54,080 Speaker 2: you are, but you know, just. 802 00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:59,880 Speaker 21: Generally, I mean, Mike, it's very different because we often 803 00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:02,680 Speaker 21: get some amazing beef and lamb on the supermarket shelves 804 00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:05,960 Speaker 21: over here via Sainsbury's, and you know, it's anywhere from 805 00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:09,279 Speaker 21: kind of fifteen to twenty five pounds for a good 806 00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:13,239 Speaker 21: leg of lamb over here. But then you know, when 807 00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:15,000 Speaker 21: we're in the restaurant, we're serving it in kind of 808 00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:17,719 Speaker 21: a culinary perspective. When we use it in different dishes 809 00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:20,279 Speaker 21: in a chef perspective. 810 00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:21,480 Speaker 9: You know, it's a little bit cheaper than that, I 811 00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:22,279 Speaker 9: can guarantee. 812 00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:25,879 Speaker 2: See, there's something very prideful in being in London and 813 00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:28,160 Speaker 2: looking at a menu in a flesh restaurant and it 814 00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:30,799 Speaker 2: sees New Zealand lamb and that's done the same way 815 00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:34,440 Speaker 2: you go Italian cars, isn't it. It's got that cute loss. 816 00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:36,720 Speaker 9: To it, it does. 817 00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:39,640 Speaker 21: I mean, we have to really thank the farmers and 818 00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:42,040 Speaker 21: the growers who have put so much integrity into the 819 00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:44,960 Speaker 21: soil to create this amazing product. 820 00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:47,399 Speaker 9: And you know, It's consistent year after year. 821 00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:50,759 Speaker 21: Much like a lot of the other products we get 822 00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:53,440 Speaker 21: up here from New Zealand, including New Zealand wine. It 823 00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:57,120 Speaker 21: is a product that people, you know, they revert to regularly. 824 00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:59,279 Speaker 21: They know they're going to get consistency, they know they're 825 00:39:59,280 --> 00:39:59,919 Speaker 21: going to get quality. 826 00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:02,600 Speaker 2: You cannot beat the quality story. Melanie, nice to talk to. 827 00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:05,720 Speaker 2: You appreciate it pretty much, Melanie Brown, who's into cooking 828 00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:08,520 Speaker 2: and cheffing and being just generally fabulous in that particular 829 00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:12,000 Speaker 2: part of the world. I was going to call them 830 00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:15,600 Speaker 2: chops chops, last cutlets, beautiful little cutlets. And I'm roasting 831 00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:17,480 Speaker 2: the cutlets at the moment, insteed of pen frying them. 832 00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:19,319 Speaker 2: And I'm thoroughly enjoying that. And when I say I'm 833 00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:20,919 Speaker 2: doing that, I'm not doing any of that, of course, 834 00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:24,400 Speaker 2: but I enjoy them nevertheless. Seven twenty. 835 00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:30,360 Speaker 1: The Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio. 836 00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:32,160 Speaker 3: How of my news talks be. 837 00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:34,480 Speaker 17: Right? 838 00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:37,440 Speaker 2: If you're CEO focused on that profitability in a tough market, 839 00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:39,040 Speaker 2: you know how crucial it is to win that share 840 00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:42,880 Speaker 2: of tenders for the the RFPs, and winning means dedicating 841 00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:45,440 Speaker 2: scarce and valuable key executive time to that task. 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Who doesn't want that AI no 855 00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:23,680 Speaker 2: longer a competitive advantage, of course, it is now a necessity. 856 00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:25,799 Speaker 2: So if you need to grow your profit by winning 857 00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:28,359 Speaker 2: that new business, one net dot co dot MZ, one 858 00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:31,640 Speaker 2: net dot co dot inz complementary consultation to assess how 859 00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:34,239 Speaker 2: your business can win more RFPs with Grizzly. One net 860 00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:39,160 Speaker 2: plus Grizzly innovation leaders in cloud computing and AI. Asking 861 00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:41,160 Speaker 2: at seven twenty four My summation of what we have 862 00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:43,879 Speaker 2: heard so far in the Judge Aiken case, the did 863 00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:47,760 Speaker 2: I yell at in interrupted and disrupt Winston case. Aikin 864 00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:49,920 Speaker 2: was on the stand so to speak, yesterday, remembering none 865 00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:51,560 Speaker 2: of this is criminal, of course, In fact, I would 866 00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:55,120 Speaker 2: describe it as outrageously political. Judge Aikin shouldn't be there, 867 00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:57,799 Speaker 2: No one should. It's a storm in a judicial tea cup. 868 00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:00,400 Speaker 2: Should she have had a popp at Wins at the 869 00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:03,120 Speaker 2: Northern Club? Of course not. The incident, much disputed in 870 00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:06,400 Speaker 2: terms of angst, animosity and volume, shows the judge in 871 00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:08,560 Speaker 2: a very poor light. It was none of her business 872 00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:11,120 Speaker 2: and you don't go round running commentary on other people's evenings. 873 00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:14,600 Speaker 2: Then again, you don't go dobbing interlopers into the Attorney General, 874 00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:16,279 Speaker 2: which is what has happened, and next thing you know, 875 00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:18,279 Speaker 2: you have a legal circus where a person's career is 876 00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:21,160 Speaker 2: potentially about to be blown up. Also disturbing for me, 877 00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:24,520 Speaker 2: as the casual observer is the Chief District Court judge's 878 00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:28,120 Speaker 2: role in the apology that Judge Aken, he involved two 879 00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:32,560 Speaker 2: media advisers and amended Aikins's wording so it wouldn't offend 880 00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:36,240 Speaker 2: new Zealand first. At all times, the chief Judge seemed 881 00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:39,880 Speaker 2: to be obsessed with not offending political parties. His overt 882 00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:43,359 Speaker 2: weakness worries me not to mention Jude Aikins's inability to 883 00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:45,279 Speaker 2: have her voice heard. I mean, she's not thirteen, she's 884 00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:48,520 Speaker 2: a judge. My sense of where we're at is we 885 00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:50,400 Speaker 2: will never get to know the full story because the 886 00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:53,200 Speaker 2: versions vary. Therefore the panel doing the deciding won't come 887 00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:56,880 Speaker 2: to a definitive conclusion. Therefore, whatever they put before Paul Goldsmith, 888 00:42:56,920 --> 00:43:00,399 Speaker 2: the acting ag will go nowhere. So maybe what seeing 889 00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:03,320 Speaker 2: currently is the actual punishment. In other words, a judge, 890 00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:06,719 Speaker 2: her reputation, her drinking habits, which was covered yesterday, her 891 00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:12,160 Speaker 2: word all dissected is the punishment is the humiliation over all, 892 00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:15,720 Speaker 2: the insight into the legal fraternity, not forgetting the good judges. 893 00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:18,960 Speaker 2: A celebrity doctor partner in the case on the video 894 00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:22,279 Speaker 2: last week does not come off reputationally well. I mean, 895 00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:23,960 Speaker 2: if you wanted to think of them broadly as a 896 00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:27,640 Speaker 2: bunch of champagne swilling, self serving snobs, they haven't done 897 00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:30,000 Speaker 2: a lot to dissuade us. But then you Zeeland first 898 00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:33,040 Speaker 2: look like a petty point Scory Losory group of nacs 899 00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:39,120 Speaker 2: who don't mind wrecking people's lives. Pasking the hearing continues, 900 00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:43,160 Speaker 2: pasking Mike seventy dollars for two point two kg leg 901 00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:46,239 Speaker 2: of lamb new will Papakura last night. That's not bad going. 902 00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:47,960 Speaker 2: Is there any way to get the power companies back 903 00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:50,879 Speaker 2: in government control? Was a totally predictable outcomforts to John 904 00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:55,120 Speaker 2: Key's legacy. They are in the government control. The government 905 00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:58,719 Speaker 2: owns a majority stake in three of the four gentailers. 906 00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:01,880 Speaker 2: Us try with the contact guy, but you'll get a 907 00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:04,640 Speaker 2: knighthood who can get anyone from Power, Compani's insurance, supermarkets, 908 00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:06,960 Speaker 2: et cetera, to admit that they're making increased profits at 909 00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:08,680 Speaker 2: the expense of all of us who are simply consumers 910 00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:11,440 Speaker 2: struggling to provide for our families. And then that is 911 00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:15,960 Speaker 2: the Rayale politique. I can mount a very cohesive and indeed, 912 00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:20,200 Speaker 2: in Mike fush a very cohesive case about investing in renewables, 913 00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:22,200 Speaker 2: about not getting stuck in the middle of winter like 914 00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:25,320 Speaker 2: twenty twenty four with no resource and they are spending 915 00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:28,160 Speaker 2: good money on good stuff that will serve us well ultimately. 916 00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:30,920 Speaker 2: But if you don't want to believe that in election 917 00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:35,520 Speaker 2: year you won't. And so therefore that's the hard yards 918 00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:38,160 Speaker 2: of trying to convince people that spending money is actually wise. 919 00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:41,120 Speaker 2: Hamish ker had a very nice night last night. He 920 00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:46,160 Speaker 2: cleared two point one night, he won the Hellberg Award, 921 00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:49,880 Speaker 2: and so he's our supreme champion and we like supreme champion. 922 00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:51,040 Speaker 2: So we'll talk to him next. 923 00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:54,840 Speaker 3: No fluff, just facts and fierce debate. 924 00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:59,279 Speaker 1: The Mic Hosking Breakfast were the defender, embraced the impossible news, 925 00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:01,839 Speaker 1: Togs dead b I'm melicit the Old. 926 00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:04,040 Speaker 2: Master's Share of Fame, Taste of Art's the new program. 927 00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:05,759 Speaker 2: She's with us up for RT meantime at twenty three 928 00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:08,640 Speaker 2: minutes away from making Hellberg's handed out, Zoe Sadski sen 929 00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:12,719 Speaker 2: at sports Woman Blackburn's sevens teen Sam Ruth Emerging Talent 930 00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:15,160 Speaker 2: high jump a Hamishku got the sports Man a ward, 931 00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:17,440 Speaker 2: but of course also the big one as well, and 932 00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:18,720 Speaker 2: Hamish well, there's Hamish. 933 00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:21,920 Speaker 3: Morning to you morning Mike. How are you very well? 934 00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:22,799 Speaker 2: Indeed? Feel good? 935 00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:24,879 Speaker 3: It feels very good. 936 00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:27,879 Speaker 7: Yeah, it's it's obviously a great honor to be put 937 00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:30,800 Speaker 7: on a huge trophy with a bunch of absolute you know, 938 00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:33,040 Speaker 7: Kiwi spoiling legends, So I'm really happy to be here and. 939 00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:35,680 Speaker 2: The night itself and the vibes and you know, rubbing 940 00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:38,480 Speaker 2: shoulders with legends and all that sort of always very uplifting, 941 00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:38,800 Speaker 2: isn't it. 942 00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:40,680 Speaker 15: Oh, It's always amazing. 943 00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:42,920 Speaker 7: You know, as athletes, we spend our lives in our 944 00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:45,239 Speaker 7: little kind of worlds and do all our little things 945 00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:46,840 Speaker 7: that we do. And to be able to come, you know, 946 00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:49,239 Speaker 7: into a room like that and just see, you know, 947 00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:52,680 Speaker 7: what our our nation produces here on air and really 948 00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:55,239 Speaker 7: feel like there's an awesome kind of sporting buzz and 949 00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:58,080 Speaker 7: people are really getting behind it. It's really really exciting. 950 00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:00,480 Speaker 2: I asked this question to the nicest possible way in 951 00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:02,560 Speaker 2: your mind. In any way, shape or form, does it 952 00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:07,400 Speaker 2: legitimize your sport more than you had legitimized it previously. 953 00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:14,400 Speaker 7: Look, potentially it's another attack in the box, you know. 954 00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:19,000 Speaker 7: I think that, you know, globally, athletics is a relatively 955 00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:21,279 Speaker 7: big sport. It's it's not a football or or a 956 00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:23,960 Speaker 7: tennis or a golf, but it's it's pretty pretty well 957 00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:25,799 Speaker 7: known overseas, and I think that if I can bring 958 00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:29,880 Speaker 7: that kind of understanding and love back to the country, 959 00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:33,280 Speaker 7: and it's at it as an event to what's already 960 00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:35,480 Speaker 7: mess in our country and the likes of running and 961 00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:37,600 Speaker 7: shot put and various other things. Yeah, I think it's 962 00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:39,120 Speaker 7: great because I think at the end of the day, 963 00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:41,520 Speaker 7: for me, it's you know, if there are kids out 964 00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:43,399 Speaker 7: there who feel like now they want to be high 965 00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:45,319 Speaker 7: jumpers because of what I've done, I'm. 966 00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:45,880 Speaker 22: Really talked about that. 967 00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:48,080 Speaker 2: That was my next question. Have you made any sort 968 00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:50,680 Speaker 2: of assessment since your you know, real big success that 969 00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:52,560 Speaker 2: we talked about last time you were here, But have 970 00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:55,120 Speaker 2: you made any assessment of whether it's had a material 971 00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:56,960 Speaker 2: impact at school level that people look at you and 972 00:46:57,040 --> 00:46:57,920 Speaker 2: go I can do a bit of that. 973 00:46:59,320 --> 00:46:59,480 Speaker 3: Yeah. 974 00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:01,640 Speaker 7: I mean, look, I mean anecdotally, I feel like I 975 00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:04,000 Speaker 7: have so many people these days coming up and telling 976 00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:06,759 Speaker 7: me that their kids are really into high jump and 977 00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:10,280 Speaker 7: into athletics, and I think that, you know, I've definitely 978 00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:12,560 Speaker 7: noticed that at sort of secondary school level and at 979 00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:16,400 Speaker 7: Colgate level, the participation numbers definitely look like the training 980 00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:18,920 Speaker 7: in the right direction. And so yeah, I think for me, 981 00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:21,319 Speaker 7: I'm really stoked about that. But you know, if it's 982 00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:23,719 Speaker 7: any athletic event, I'm stoked. It doesn't have to be 983 00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:25,879 Speaker 7: high jumped. There's an athletic event out there for everyone, 984 00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:28,759 Speaker 7: so it's yeah, it's been really cool seeing that kind 985 00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:31,359 Speaker 7: of attitude shift towards people really wanting to get out 986 00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:31,800 Speaker 7: there and doing it. 987 00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:35,000 Speaker 2: When was the first time that you jump the way 988 00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:36,960 Speaker 2: you jump? So when I was at school, you do 989 00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:39,319 Speaker 2: the scissors, then you do the Fosbury flop and all 990 00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:41,880 Speaker 2: that sort of stuff, right, And the only reason I 991 00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:44,080 Speaker 2: asked this weird question is because I'm watching the Winter 992 00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:46,919 Speaker 2: Olympics at the moment, and so you see the ski jump. Also, 993 00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:49,880 Speaker 2: at some point you need to throw caution to the 994 00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:53,359 Speaker 2: wind and go from your warm up to the real deal. 995 00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:54,800 Speaker 2: When did you do that? 996 00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:58,600 Speaker 7: Well, the first time I tried doing the Fosbury flop, 997 00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:01,359 Speaker 7: which is the teaching I do now, was I think 998 00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:04,120 Speaker 7: it was probably year three, and no one taught me 999 00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:05,239 Speaker 7: how to do it. I just thought it would be 1000 00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:08,520 Speaker 7: funny to try it just at lunchtime at the local, 1001 00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:11,320 Speaker 7: you know, at my field and my primary school. And 1002 00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:13,960 Speaker 7: I actually smacked my knees, my nose and got a 1003 00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:17,440 Speaker 7: blood nose. So that was kind of a lesson in 1004 00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:20,080 Speaker 7: how not to do it, and and kind of every 1005 00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:22,040 Speaker 7: year from there, I've obviously got a wee bit better 1006 00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:23,840 Speaker 7: at it and haven't actually smacked my nose. 1007 00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:26,080 Speaker 2: Since, so you know, you know what I mean, nin't you, 1008 00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:29,080 Speaker 2: Because like it's a leap of faith at that point, 1009 00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:31,279 Speaker 2: literally and figuratively, I suppose. And of course the other 1010 00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:34,320 Speaker 2: thing is landing on the neck and the patents that 1011 00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:35,520 Speaker 2: there's a risk there isn't there. 1012 00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:39,680 Speaker 7: It probably looks more like a rost than it is. 1013 00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:42,600 Speaker 7: But I think fundamentally, like you know, the theme here 1014 00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:45,279 Speaker 7: with with myself and the winter impacts and everything is 1015 00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:48,320 Speaker 7: just the amazing coaches we've got in our country. You know, 1016 00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:51,120 Speaker 7: nothing was possible without them, and and that kind of 1017 00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:56,800 Speaker 7: very uncontrolled motion that we do is optimized by the 1018 00:48:56,840 --> 00:49:00,279 Speaker 7: support of coaching staff and the people around us. So yeah, 1019 00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:02,200 Speaker 7: I think I think that's also sort of something that 1020 00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:04,879 Speaker 7: I'm really stoked about. Was obviously my coach won Coach 1021 00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:07,160 Speaker 7: of the Year as well last night. Who's someone who's 1022 00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:10,279 Speaker 7: been instrumental in my success. So yeah, it's very cool 1023 00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:12,359 Speaker 7: to heaven there and he's the one who makes sure 1024 00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:14,480 Speaker 7: that I don't land on my neck and doing anything 1025 00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:15,360 Speaker 7: too bad for myself. 1026 00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:17,120 Speaker 2: What's twenty six Scott for you? 1027 00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:20,680 Speaker 7: It's got a bit of stuff. Comrade of Games is 1028 00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:23,919 Speaker 7: obviously you know, coming up on the radar in July, 1029 00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:27,000 Speaker 7: and we've got a few other sort of decent sized 1030 00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:30,560 Speaker 7: ethletic comps over in Europe and stuff. So first and 1031 00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:33,239 Speaker 7: foremost National Champs which will be first weekend of March 1032 00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:35,919 Speaker 7: and Auckland at Trust Arena, and then from there will 1033 00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:39,040 Speaker 7: be cruising on into the you know, the wide world 1034 00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:40,840 Speaker 7: and chocusing our skills overseas. 1035 00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:43,520 Speaker 2: Fantastic wel congratulations on last night again, nice to catch 1036 00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:44,719 Speaker 2: up with you, appreciate it very much. 1037 00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:46,480 Speaker 7: Good to hear you. 1038 00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:48,879 Speaker 2: Hold on, Hay, which one quick question I forgot to ask, 1039 00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:50,879 Speaker 2: did you get money when you won your. 1040 00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:52,719 Speaker 15: Middle Did I get made? 1041 00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:55,359 Speaker 2: Not last night, but at the at the Olympics, did 1042 00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:55,919 Speaker 2: you get money? 1043 00:49:56,600 --> 00:49:57,640 Speaker 7: Yes, yes I did. 1044 00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:00,480 Speaker 2: And who pays you that? The olymp Committee. 1045 00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:06,280 Speaker 7: Yeah, so athletics, well word, athletics actually paid paid prize 1046 00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:09,120 Speaker 7: money to all the gold medalists and athletics and so 1047 00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:11,920 Speaker 7: that was the first time that's ever happened. And then 1048 00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:16,120 Speaker 7: obviously high performance sport as well fundings sort of tied 1049 00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:20,080 Speaker 7: in small paths to that success. So yeah, it's it's 1050 00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:22,600 Speaker 7: been Yeah, there's been money coming in from a few 1051 00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:23,120 Speaker 7: different places. 1052 00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:25,279 Speaker 2: Fantastic. The only the only reason is thanks. It nice 1053 00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:26,799 Speaker 2: to talk to your homemus. The only reason I ask. 1054 00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:28,480 Speaker 2: I'm reading an article at the moment about the money 1055 00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:33,080 Speaker 2: being handed out in Italy, which are in fact I'll 1056 00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:35,520 Speaker 2: do that now, hit me with one of those things pasking. 1057 00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:39,960 Speaker 2: So in Singapore at the Winter Olympics is paying more 1058 00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:44,840 Speaker 2: money than anybody. Twenty nine hundred athletes, ninety national committees, 1059 00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:47,640 Speaker 2: one hundred and sixteen medal events, eight sports. If you 1060 00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:50,000 Speaker 2: win a gold medal and individual gold medal as a 1061 00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:53,000 Speaker 2: Singapore regan, you will receive seven hundred and ninety two 1062 00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:58,000 Speaker 2: thousand dollars three hundred ninety five for Sylber, one ninety 1063 00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:01,560 Speaker 2: seven for bronze. Hong Kong comes second, seven sixty eight, 1064 00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:08,040 Speaker 2: three eighty four, one nine two poland cool ideas individual 1065 00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:10,520 Speaker 2: gold gets two hundred and eleven thousand dollars. But that's 1066 00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:17,200 Speaker 2: made up of stuff. You get a Toyota Corolla, a 1067 00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:26,920 Speaker 2: fully furnished two bedroom apartment, a painting, a holiday voucher, 1068 00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:31,040 Speaker 2: and some jewelry, so that could be really good or 1069 00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:34,919 Speaker 2: else it could be really crap. Paintings and jewelry also 1070 00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:37,480 Speaker 2: part of the silver and bronze. Italy they'll give you 1071 00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:39,279 Speaker 2: two hundred and fourteen grand one hundred and seven for 1072 00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:41,920 Speaker 2: silver and seventy one for bronze. South Korea two eight one, 1073 00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:46,560 Speaker 2: three nine and seventy the US thirty seven thousand for gold. 1074 00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:52,200 Speaker 2: The United States of America gives you thirty seven thousand, 1075 00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:55,759 Speaker 2: measly American bucks for winning gold. What does that tell 1076 00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:57,239 Speaker 2: you about the state of the place at the moment? 1077 00:51:57,560 --> 00:52:00,520 Speaker 2: And New Zealand pays three. 1078 00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:02,480 Speaker 18: Three million. 1079 00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:07,760 Speaker 2: Well, if you are comparing it to you know, paysos maybe, 1080 00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:10,879 Speaker 2: but no, no painting. There's no painting, there's no flat, 1081 00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:12,080 Speaker 2: there's no Toyota Corolla. 1082 00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:14,840 Speaker 18: If you can you get to choose the painting or avery. 1083 00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:18,160 Speaker 2: No, I think there's a Polish store of It's like 1084 00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:19,799 Speaker 2: a government owned locker. 1085 00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:21,879 Speaker 18: Because because if if I got to choose, I'd say, 1086 00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:24,040 Speaker 18: can I have a portrait of me wearing the jewelry 1087 00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:25,080 Speaker 18: driving the Corolla? 1088 00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:28,279 Speaker 2: Do you know what I discovered? Lowry? I'd ask for 1089 00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:30,880 Speaker 2: a lowry, you know, lowry painting. I'd go, can I 1090 00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:35,279 Speaker 2: have a Lowry? And the no, there's no lowry in 1091 00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:38,799 Speaker 2: the Polish anyway. I think I might have just lost 1092 00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:40,560 Speaker 2: the plot there seven forty five. 1093 00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:46,440 Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered 1094 00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:47,520 Speaker 1: by News Talks. It'd be. 1095 00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:51,640 Speaker 2: Is it without sounding like a snob? Is there's a 1096 00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:54,200 Speaker 2: line there between? So three thousand dollars for winning a 1097 00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:58,239 Speaker 2: gold medal? Is there a line there where it becomes insulting? 1098 00:52:59,120 --> 00:53:01,760 Speaker 2: I mean it's three dollars. I mean, for God's sake, honestly, 1099 00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:04,840 Speaker 2: you've got You've dedicated your entire life, and I mean 1100 00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:07,320 Speaker 2: that's your choice obviously, and you're representing New Zealand and 1101 00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:09,120 Speaker 2: all of that's fun. And I thought the Olympics was 1102 00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:10,719 Speaker 2: kind of an amateur sort of event, but I mean 1103 00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:12,920 Speaker 2: that got blown under the water years ago. But you 1104 00:53:13,080 --> 00:53:15,680 Speaker 2: go and for that moment you are the greatest in 1105 00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:19,200 Speaker 2: the world. And they somebody goes, hey, Mike, well done. 1106 00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:20,359 Speaker 2: Three grand? An you think? 1107 00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:21,239 Speaker 20: I mean? 1108 00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:24,239 Speaker 2: I mean, it's like a voucher for nol leaming, isn't it. 1109 00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:27,439 Speaker 2: It's like, come on, I either pay some decent money 1110 00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:29,360 Speaker 2: or don't pay it or what would it be? You 1111 00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:32,360 Speaker 2: need tens off? Wouldn't you? Is that fair? Tens off? 1112 00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:34,920 Speaker 2: Speaking of art, By the way, I mentioned Larry a 1113 00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:38,040 Speaker 2: moment ago. If I could just recommend Brett Whitely if 1114 00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:40,400 Speaker 2: you're into art. There's a thing I discovered purely by 1115 00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:43,279 Speaker 2: accident on Netflix at the moment about Brett Whiteley, who's 1116 00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:46,320 Speaker 2: probably they described him as Australia's greatest ever artist. I 1117 00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:48,680 Speaker 2: wouldn't have thought that's the case at all, but never 1118 00:53:48,840 --> 00:53:51,200 Speaker 2: I mean, you put Nolan up there surely anyway. But 1119 00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:54,280 Speaker 2: the point is he's a modern artist, killed himself, drug addict, 1120 00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:57,239 Speaker 2: all that stuff, and he was well, he wasn't, but 1121 00:53:57,320 --> 00:54:00,000 Speaker 2: his paintings were involved in the biggest piece of art 1122 00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:03,319 Speaker 2: fraud in modern Australian history, and it went to court 1123 00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:09,200 Speaker 2: and it's the documentary of that story two parter, absolutely gripping. 1124 00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:13,000 Speaker 2: If you want to watch something that's associated with that, 1125 00:54:13,120 --> 00:54:16,000 Speaker 2: and you've got yourself. Netflix quickly on Tony Alexander, because 1126 00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:17,759 Speaker 2: I promised to do that, and as usual I've sort 1127 00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:20,280 Speaker 2: of lost a train of what's going on. Only eighteen 1128 00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:23,279 Speaker 2: percent of agents Tony Alexander in one roof while worth reading, 1129 00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:26,879 Speaker 2: always only eighteen percent of agency does these surveys. Only 1130 00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:30,080 Speaker 2: eighteen percent of agents reported seeing fomo, which is down 1131 00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:32,680 Speaker 2: from twenty six averages twenty nine, So there's not much 1132 00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:35,560 Speaker 2: fomo in the market at the moment, first time buyers 1133 00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:39,840 Speaker 2: very active sixty two percent, seeing more young buars averages 1134 00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:42,759 Speaker 2: twenty three, so sixty two v. Twenty three. Not many 1135 00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:45,719 Speaker 2: investors about the place at the moment, so good news 1136 00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:48,400 Speaker 2: for the young buyers. So that's encouraging. Big jump of 1137 00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:50,799 Speaker 2: the percentage of agents who say buyers are worried about 1138 00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:52,800 Speaker 2: the interest rates. Now that's coming tomorrow. There will be 1139 00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:55,880 Speaker 2: no change tomorrow, but doctor Anna is going to come 1140 00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:58,520 Speaker 2: forth and she is going to wax lyrical about her 1141 00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:01,759 Speaker 2: view of the New Zealand economy. So we're a bit 1142 00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:05,120 Speaker 2: concerned about that. So that's Tony Alexander's view on the housing. 1143 00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:07,719 Speaker 2: But we'll have more on the Reserve Bank for you 1144 00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:11,080 Speaker 2: and the housing market and the economy in general tomorrow 1145 00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:12,320 Speaker 2: on the program ten to Wait. 1146 00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:17,680 Speaker 1: The Make Hosking Breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate Newstalk ZB serving. 1147 00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:20,160 Speaker 2: Away from a new study on intimited fasting, Researchers of 1148 00:55:20,239 --> 00:55:23,560 Speaker 2: analyzed twenty two global trials found no clear advantage over 1149 00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:28,040 Speaker 2: standard dietary advice. Weight loss was broadly similar to traditional dieting, 1150 00:55:28,120 --> 00:55:30,719 Speaker 2: with no strong evidence of extra metabolic benefits. Now alex 1151 00:55:30,760 --> 00:55:32,560 Speaker 2: Flint is the founder of Body Talk germ and is 1152 00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:36,160 Speaker 2: with us. Alex morning, Very good morning. See Mike, would 1153 00:55:36,239 --> 00:55:38,520 Speaker 2: you have said this before the study or not? 1154 00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:41,600 Speaker 23: Yeah, I definitely would. I think it's one of those 1155 00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:45,439 Speaker 23: things that in the game and nutritionness, gem owners, etc. 1156 00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:49,439 Speaker 23: Know that we aren't overweight because we eat at breakfast time. 1157 00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:52,279 Speaker 23: We're simply overweight because we're eating too much over twenty 1158 00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:52,800 Speaker 23: four hours. 1159 00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:54,160 Speaker 20: See. 1160 00:55:54,239 --> 00:55:57,080 Speaker 2: I argue, it depends on whether you're doing it for weight. 1161 00:55:57,160 --> 00:55:57,319 Speaker 22: See. 1162 00:55:57,360 --> 00:56:00,080 Speaker 2: I'm an intimittent faster, but I don't think i'd do 1163 00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:01,560 Speaker 2: it for weight. I do it to you know, it 1164 00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:03,239 Speaker 2: helps the body, and you know, you give it a 1165 00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:04,920 Speaker 2: rest and all that sort of stuff. So it depends 1166 00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:06,680 Speaker 2: on why you're doing it or what you're looking at, 1167 00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:07,239 Speaker 2: doesn't it. 1168 00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:11,920 Speaker 23: Yeah, it does, Mike. There's been some really interesting studies 1169 00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:15,960 Speaker 23: in those areas where they have put people into different groups, 1170 00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:18,520 Speaker 23: so a fasting group, a group that just does regular 1171 00:56:18,600 --> 00:56:21,319 Speaker 23: old calorie restrictions, so they eat normal meals, but they're 1172 00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:25,239 Speaker 23: just reducing their calories. And what we see over a 1173 00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:28,080 Speaker 23: longer periods of time, so we're talking twelve months plus, 1174 00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:30,600 Speaker 23: there is very very little difference in the outcome. So 1175 00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:34,600 Speaker 23: when we look at things like metabolic markers, inflammation, our 1176 00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:37,759 Speaker 23: blood sugar, our blood pressure, our heart rates. There really 1177 00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:41,759 Speaker 23: doesn't exist any differences between the two groups. So I 1178 00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:46,239 Speaker 23: think what we've found is that with in the mint 1179 00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:50,000 Speaker 23: of fasting in particular, it's a really good way of 1180 00:56:50,120 --> 00:56:52,760 Speaker 23: portion control, but with a much better marketing department. 1181 00:56:53,120 --> 00:56:55,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, so where did it come from and why did 1182 00:56:55,560 --> 00:56:57,399 Speaker 2: it take off? Then if it doesn't work? 1183 00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:02,320 Speaker 23: So obviously fasting has been is something that's been around 1184 00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:05,239 Speaker 23: for hundreds of probably not thousands of years. You know, 1185 00:57:05,560 --> 00:57:09,920 Speaker 23: we've had tibet months all the way through the modern 1186 00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:14,640 Speaker 23: day influences you'd say using fasting, and it definitely does 1187 00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:17,120 Speaker 23: have metabolic effects which. 1188 00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:18,440 Speaker 2: You know are favorable. 1189 00:57:18,520 --> 00:57:20,160 Speaker 15: However, what we've found. 1190 00:57:20,080 --> 00:57:22,720 Speaker 23: Is that when it comes down to it, it really 1191 00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:25,800 Speaker 23: does come down to fat loss is the reason why 1192 00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:31,480 Speaker 23: we get these improved health outcomes, and that really matters 1193 00:57:31,560 --> 00:57:33,400 Speaker 23: on what we're eating over the long term. So if 1194 00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:35,360 Speaker 23: you can stick to in a minute fasting, it's a 1195 00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:39,320 Speaker 23: fantastic tool for you, but it's not a talisman. It's 1196 00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:43,000 Speaker 23: just something something which is not superior to regular calorie 1197 00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:44,840 Speaker 23: control methods and eating patterns. 1198 00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:48,120 Speaker 2: Right, have you got a view on glp ones in general. 1199 00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:51,440 Speaker 23: Yeah, I think you know, Mike, When it comes down 1200 00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:53,160 Speaker 23: to it, for a lot of people, the issue is 1201 00:57:53,440 --> 00:57:57,760 Speaker 23: it's habits and behavior and long term ingrained issues, which 1202 00:57:58,320 --> 00:58:01,440 Speaker 23: glp ones are something which are are really helping. What 1203 00:58:01,600 --> 00:58:03,680 Speaker 23: they largely do is quite in the food noise in 1204 00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:06,080 Speaker 23: people's minds. So, you know, for a lot of people 1205 00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:08,480 Speaker 23: that have trouble over eating, it's just the fact that 1206 00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:11,680 Speaker 23: food is consistently on their mind. Glp ones are something 1207 00:58:11,720 --> 00:58:14,200 Speaker 23: which helped to just calm the noise, you know, make 1208 00:58:14,240 --> 00:58:17,680 Speaker 23: intent less about food overall. So they've definitely got their 1209 00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:20,200 Speaker 23: place and they're going to grow in popularity and use 1210 00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:21,959 Speaker 23: over the next short while. 1211 00:58:22,080 --> 00:58:24,880 Speaker 2: It's a fascinating story, Alex. Appreciate your insight very much. Alexplant, 1212 00:58:24,880 --> 00:58:26,640 Speaker 2: who's the founder of a body talk gym and match 1213 00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:30,960 Speaker 2: Fitch coach. Everything from the weight on a plane for 1214 00:58:31,080 --> 00:58:35,000 Speaker 2: glp ones these days to the secondhand clothing market is 1215 00:58:35,040 --> 00:58:38,480 Speaker 2: being upended in a major way to food production and 1216 00:58:38,560 --> 00:58:40,960 Speaker 2: what people are producing, because once you're on glp ones, 1217 00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:44,240 Speaker 2: your whole world changes, and so there are industry after 1218 00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:47,800 Speaker 2: industry after industry that is grappling with what really appears 1219 00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:50,560 Speaker 2: to be on the surface anyway, some sort of food 1220 00:58:50,680 --> 00:58:55,200 Speaker 2: revolution speaking which melicialy on Master Chef four seasons of that. 1221 00:58:55,840 --> 00:58:58,000 Speaker 2: She's back with a new show called Taste of Art, 1222 00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:00,840 Speaker 2: which I'll give you the detail on shortly, but anyway, 1223 00:59:00,880 --> 00:59:02,600 Speaker 2: we'll catch up with her after the news, which is next. 1224 00:59:02,760 --> 00:59:05,720 Speaker 2: You're on the mic Hosking Breakfast, you. 1225 00:59:05,840 --> 00:59:06,320 Speaker 24: Said, my. 1226 00:59:11,760 --> 00:59:15,680 Speaker 1: Asking the questions others won't the mic Hosking Breakfast with 1227 00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:20,760 Speaker 1: Bailey's real estate altogether better across residential, commercial and rural news? 1228 00:59:20,840 --> 00:59:23,760 Speaker 2: Togs Head be get a seven pass DAID Mastership Australian 1229 00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:26,000 Speaker 2: one of the most watched television programs. Of course, cooking 1230 00:59:26,040 --> 00:59:27,840 Speaker 2: and television they go hand in hand, really, don't they. 1231 00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:30,920 Speaker 2: Melissa Leong was judged for four seasons there. She went 1232 00:59:30,960 --> 00:59:33,720 Speaker 2: on to host Dessert Masters. Now a new program called 1233 00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:36,800 Speaker 2: Taste of Art. Ten New Zealand chips compete in an 1234 00:59:36,880 --> 00:59:40,800 Speaker 2: elimination event, creating visually stunning third It starts this Thursday. 1235 00:59:40,800 --> 00:59:43,080 Speaker 2: I'll give you more details shortly meantime. Others of Leong's 1236 00:59:43,120 --> 00:59:44,600 Speaker 2: with us, Good morning. 1237 00:59:44,520 --> 00:59:46,160 Speaker 3: Good morning, how are you look. 1238 00:59:46,200 --> 00:59:48,560 Speaker 2: I'm very well. Indeed, is it as they say in 1239 00:59:48,680 --> 00:59:50,880 Speaker 2: the industry, in the can have you seen it? 1240 00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:52,400 Speaker 16: It is in the can. 1241 00:59:52,800 --> 00:59:54,920 Speaker 22: It's been in the can so quite some time. We 1242 00:59:55,000 --> 01:00:00,560 Speaker 22: shot it Taste of Art around ski season last year, 1243 01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:04,320 Speaker 22: so it was beautiful to drive to work and all 1244 01:00:04,360 --> 01:00:06,240 Speaker 22: of the rest of it to see the remarkables. But yes, 1245 01:00:06,320 --> 01:00:07,000 Speaker 22: it's done. 1246 01:00:07,440 --> 01:00:08,000 Speaker 16: Have I seen it? 1247 01:00:08,160 --> 01:00:11,400 Speaker 22: No, I don't really tend to watch my work back 1248 01:00:11,480 --> 01:00:12,600 Speaker 22: because I was there the first time. 1249 01:00:12,960 --> 01:00:13,840 Speaker 2: Any reasons for that? 1250 01:00:15,040 --> 01:00:18,080 Speaker 22: I think for me, I give one hundred percent of 1251 01:00:18,200 --> 01:00:21,640 Speaker 22: my presence and you know, all of my skills on 1252 01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:24,320 Speaker 22: the day, and then I just need to keep moving. 1253 01:00:24,680 --> 01:00:28,320 Speaker 22: I don't tend to, you know, want to dwell on 1254 01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:30,000 Speaker 22: it any more than that. And all of the rest 1255 01:00:30,080 --> 01:00:33,080 Speaker 22: of the amazing production, you know, in terms of post production, 1256 01:00:33,520 --> 01:00:36,560 Speaker 22: they do their thing and then it's one big team 1257 01:00:36,560 --> 01:00:37,880 Speaker 22: effort at the end of the day. But no, I 1258 01:00:37,920 --> 01:00:39,479 Speaker 22: don't tend to go back and watch my work. 1259 01:00:39,880 --> 01:00:42,560 Speaker 2: Now. Now, your co host, Vaughn, maybe he gets coverage 1260 01:00:42,600 --> 01:00:45,480 Speaker 2: in this country, and rightly so because he's brilliant. Brilliant chef, 1261 01:00:45,560 --> 01:00:45,800 Speaker 2: isn't he? 1262 01:00:46,680 --> 01:00:49,880 Speaker 22: De Vaughn is an absolute delight to work with. He 1263 01:00:50,320 --> 01:00:54,280 Speaker 22: is someone who knows exactly who he is, is not 1264 01:00:54,440 --> 01:00:57,480 Speaker 22: afraid to be ambitious, but is also someone who remains 1265 01:00:57,560 --> 01:01:01,320 Speaker 22: really grounded through his work as well. So when I 1266 01:01:01,440 --> 01:01:04,120 Speaker 22: was there, I was able to fortunate enough to have 1267 01:01:04,240 --> 01:01:07,520 Speaker 22: a couple of meals at Amasfield and really see the 1268 01:01:07,600 --> 01:01:09,240 Speaker 22: way that you know, he has a line in the 1269 01:01:09,320 --> 01:01:11,959 Speaker 22: sand about the way that he wants to present food 1270 01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:14,360 Speaker 22: and the way that it needs to be wild caught 1271 01:01:14,440 --> 01:01:17,880 Speaker 22: or harvested in that way, and you just see that 1272 01:01:18,040 --> 01:01:21,400 Speaker 22: level of integrity both in his cuisine and in the 1273 01:01:21,440 --> 01:01:24,120 Speaker 22: way that he conducts himself as a human. And he's 1274 01:01:25,160 --> 01:01:28,640 Speaker 22: terrifyingly funny to boot, which is always a plus. 1275 01:01:29,040 --> 01:01:31,560 Speaker 2: And would you describe what he does at Amersfield from 1276 01:01:31,600 --> 01:01:32,760 Speaker 2: what you saw as world class? 1277 01:01:33,160 --> 01:01:36,960 Speaker 22: I absolutely would. I think that Alta should be very 1278 01:01:37,040 --> 01:01:39,720 Speaker 22: proud of what it is that he has produced and 1279 01:01:40,320 --> 01:01:44,480 Speaker 22: the fact that he is contributed to because of course 1280 01:01:44,520 --> 01:01:48,440 Speaker 22: there are so many tremendously talented chefs in your country, 1281 01:01:48,560 --> 01:01:53,240 Speaker 22: but he really has contributed to shining the spotlight on 1282 01:01:53,480 --> 01:01:57,680 Speaker 22: Pacific pacifica cuisine and just showing the caliber of what 1283 01:01:57,880 --> 01:01:59,240 Speaker 22: is possible in this part of the world. 1284 01:01:59,320 --> 01:02:01,760 Speaker 2: I think that's all I asked that question. By the way, 1285 01:02:02,000 --> 01:02:03,480 Speaker 2: you know, not because you've worked with them and all 1286 01:02:03,520 --> 01:02:05,680 Speaker 2: of that, but you're in Melbourne. You live in Melbourne. 1287 01:02:05,680 --> 01:02:10,600 Speaker 2: Melbourne is your culinary home for Australia and we talk 1288 01:02:10,640 --> 01:02:13,200 Speaker 2: a lot about HOSPOW in this country, HOSPOW in general 1289 01:02:13,240 --> 01:02:15,160 Speaker 2: over the past several years, and you're part of the 1290 01:02:15,240 --> 01:02:18,040 Speaker 2: world in terms of success and imagination. Where's it at. 1291 01:02:18,800 --> 01:02:21,320 Speaker 22: I think that HOSPO over the last couple of years 1292 01:02:21,440 --> 01:02:26,200 Speaker 22: is there's a reckoning, to be sure. I think it 1293 01:02:26,200 --> 01:02:28,320 Speaker 22: would be remissive me not to kind of touch on 1294 01:02:29,320 --> 01:02:32,560 Speaker 22: some of the realities of what has been swept under 1295 01:02:32,600 --> 01:02:35,640 Speaker 22: the carpet for quite some time. So there's that part 1296 01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:38,680 Speaker 22: of hospitality. I guess the diners don't necessarily get to 1297 01:02:38,680 --> 01:02:40,600 Speaker 22: see in terms of the way that staff are treated, 1298 01:02:41,480 --> 01:02:44,360 Speaker 22: certain behaviors that have been allowed to happen for quite 1299 01:02:44,360 --> 01:02:47,240 Speaker 22: a long time. But in terms of the dining side 1300 01:02:47,280 --> 01:02:50,840 Speaker 22: of things, you know, there is a constant refinement of 1301 01:02:51,480 --> 01:02:53,880 Speaker 22: what's going on, but also just an increased amount of 1302 01:02:53,920 --> 01:02:57,880 Speaker 22: personalization across the boards. So instead of seeing places that 1303 01:02:58,080 --> 01:03:01,320 Speaker 22: just try to replicate others success, we're seeing a lot 1304 01:03:01,400 --> 01:03:07,120 Speaker 22: more of a personal story. You know, Regionally specific cuisines 1305 01:03:07,320 --> 01:03:11,200 Speaker 22: are really being celebrated, which is awesome as well, and 1306 01:03:11,360 --> 01:03:15,320 Speaker 22: just telling stories and connecting with diners through the way 1307 01:03:15,360 --> 01:03:17,840 Speaker 22: that they interpret cuisine. I think that's really cool. 1308 01:03:18,280 --> 01:03:18,440 Speaker 20: Yeah. 1309 01:03:18,480 --> 01:03:20,080 Speaker 2: One of the great debates we have in this country 1310 01:03:20,120 --> 01:03:23,520 Speaker 2: about hospital is all the closures and high churn. In 1311 01:03:23,600 --> 01:03:25,800 Speaker 2: other words, do you see that in Melbourne and Australia 1312 01:03:25,840 --> 01:03:26,200 Speaker 2: in general. 1313 01:03:26,440 --> 01:03:29,400 Speaker 22: Absolutely. You know, there have been times when the bubblers 1314 01:03:29,440 --> 01:03:31,920 Speaker 22: burst and there have been more restaurants and diners can 1315 01:03:32,960 --> 01:03:35,680 Speaker 22: can cater for. And the same goes with staffing as well. 1316 01:03:35,760 --> 01:03:37,400 Speaker 22: So you see a lot of shifting going on, and 1317 01:03:37,720 --> 01:03:40,000 Speaker 22: it is the EBB and the flow of hospitality. Not 1318 01:03:40,080 --> 01:03:43,680 Speaker 22: all rest like restaurants, never open up expecting to never close. 1319 01:03:44,200 --> 01:03:46,600 Speaker 22: There is a life cycle to the way that restaurants run. 1320 01:03:46,680 --> 01:03:48,680 Speaker 22: Some of them have a longer life cycles than others. 1321 01:03:48,760 --> 01:03:52,200 Speaker 22: But I think in the closure of restaurants, as sad 1322 01:03:52,240 --> 01:03:55,000 Speaker 22: as that can sometimes be, it also leaves an opening 1323 01:03:55,040 --> 01:03:59,000 Speaker 22: and an opportunity for the landscape to continue to move 1324 01:03:59,080 --> 01:04:01,400 Speaker 22: along as well. And so I think we just kind 1325 01:04:01,400 --> 01:04:05,520 Speaker 22: of need to see it as a bittersweet matter of fact, the. 1326 01:04:05,600 --> 01:04:09,440 Speaker 2: Food TV taste about the food TV thing generally seems 1327 01:04:09,520 --> 01:04:12,560 Speaker 2: to be beating the overall. I don't know that the 1328 01:04:12,680 --> 01:04:15,200 Speaker 2: idea that linear television is in some sort of trouble. 1329 01:04:15,280 --> 01:04:17,880 Speaker 2: We love that we seem to love food and television. 1330 01:04:18,720 --> 01:04:19,520 Speaker 2: Is it a magnet. 1331 01:04:19,800 --> 01:04:22,680 Speaker 22: Well, first, we think that the evolution of the way 1332 01:04:22,760 --> 01:04:26,280 Speaker 22: that we consume media and we consume content, we just 1333 01:04:26,360 --> 01:04:28,560 Speaker 22: have to accept that that's a reality, and with that 1334 01:04:29,480 --> 01:04:32,080 Speaker 22: comes a few growing pains as well. So the ways 1335 01:04:32,120 --> 01:04:36,280 Speaker 22: that we measured success in the past aren't necessarily the 1336 01:04:36,360 --> 01:04:38,439 Speaker 22: same now, just in the same way that the way 1337 01:04:38,560 --> 01:04:41,400 Speaker 22: we watch content is very very different as well. But 1338 01:04:41,480 --> 01:04:46,760 Speaker 22: I think what's wonderful about food related shows is that 1339 01:04:46,920 --> 01:04:50,760 Speaker 22: we always come back to human connection. You know, the 1340 01:04:50,880 --> 01:04:54,280 Speaker 22: stories that food allow us to tell about culture, about 1341 01:04:54,360 --> 01:04:58,000 Speaker 22: time and place and connection. All of these things are 1342 01:04:58,080 --> 01:05:01,600 Speaker 22: just so very enduringly human and we are always going 1343 01:05:01,680 --> 01:05:04,760 Speaker 22: to find that compelling. So whether or not we're looking 1344 01:05:04,920 --> 01:05:07,440 Speaker 22: at you know, shows like Master Chef that are about 1345 01:05:07,520 --> 01:05:12,680 Speaker 22: heroing humble, homegrown cooks and recipes, or we're looking at 1346 01:05:12,720 --> 01:05:18,400 Speaker 22: something like Taste of Art, where it's about defying imagination 1347 01:05:18,640 --> 01:05:22,080 Speaker 22: then really showing us what is possible when you ask 1348 01:05:22,600 --> 01:05:26,120 Speaker 22: really creative professionals to push the boat out. There's something 1349 01:05:26,200 --> 01:05:29,880 Speaker 22: in it for everyone, which is creative expression. Being able 1350 01:05:29,960 --> 01:05:31,760 Speaker 22: to share a little bit a little part of who 1351 01:05:31,880 --> 01:05:33,000 Speaker 22: they are in the. 1352 01:05:33,040 --> 01:05:35,120 Speaker 2: Form of food. Melissa hold on, We'll come back from 1353 01:05:35,200 --> 01:05:37,040 Speaker 2: Moore in a moment Taste of Art as the program 1354 01:05:37,160 --> 01:05:40,360 Speaker 2: starts this Thursday, thirteen past the Mic. 1355 01:05:40,280 --> 01:05:44,480 Speaker 1: Hosking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio, Power It by 1356 01:05:44,560 --> 01:05:45,360 Speaker 1: News Talks. 1357 01:05:45,120 --> 01:05:49,200 Speaker 2: It b U Talks sixteen past eight. Taste of Art 1358 01:05:49,240 --> 01:05:51,920 Speaker 2: starts Thursday ilicitly On is one of the judges, one 1359 01:05:51,920 --> 01:05:54,040 Speaker 2: of the hosts, and and is with us from Melbourne. 1360 01:05:54,040 --> 01:05:54,960 Speaker 2: What do you reckon? I want to know what do 1361 01:05:55,000 --> 01:05:57,000 Speaker 2: you reckon? The audiences for these shows these days? You know, 1362 01:05:57,120 --> 01:05:59,680 Speaker 2: because it's sort of this great dilimma and food is 1363 01:05:59,680 --> 01:06:03,600 Speaker 2: actually most of us eat crap, so guilty. But then 1364 01:06:03,640 --> 01:06:05,760 Speaker 2: you've got these geniuses, you know, when you put them 1365 01:06:05,760 --> 01:06:08,400 Speaker 2: in the kitchen, it's sort of are we two different societies? 1366 01:06:08,720 --> 01:06:10,720 Speaker 2: Or the people eating the crep? Just like observing the 1367 01:06:10,800 --> 01:06:12,120 Speaker 2: geniuses and the kitchen, do you reckon? 1368 01:06:12,480 --> 01:06:15,120 Speaker 22: I think that we have access to all kinds of food, 1369 01:06:15,240 --> 01:06:17,160 Speaker 22: and I think that all of us, no matter where 1370 01:06:17,200 --> 01:06:19,640 Speaker 22: we come from, all what our bank balance looks like, 1371 01:06:20,040 --> 01:06:22,920 Speaker 22: we need to come back to honoring the simplicity of 1372 01:06:23,040 --> 01:06:26,640 Speaker 22: real food. And obviously learning how to cook does take 1373 01:06:26,760 --> 01:06:30,160 Speaker 22: skill and commitment. But I think that when you learn 1374 01:06:30,240 --> 01:06:32,400 Speaker 22: how to produce your own food, you do tend to 1375 01:06:32,480 --> 01:06:36,240 Speaker 22: eat a little bit better, and the simplest of foods 1376 01:06:36,280 --> 01:06:38,480 Speaker 22: are able to give us all the nutrition that we need. 1377 01:06:39,040 --> 01:06:41,600 Speaker 22: I think when you're looking at really fine dining in 1378 01:06:41,680 --> 01:06:44,920 Speaker 22: that regards, that's sort of you know, that's a special 1379 01:06:44,960 --> 01:06:48,360 Speaker 22: occasion thing, that's something that you should not be part 1380 01:06:48,400 --> 01:06:50,560 Speaker 22: of you every day because you know, it is really 1381 01:06:50,680 --> 01:06:52,320 Speaker 22: rich food. A lot of the time, there's a lot 1382 01:06:52,400 --> 01:06:55,000 Speaker 22: of there's a lot of richness and a lot of 1383 01:06:55,240 --> 01:06:57,680 Speaker 22: you know, sort of specialty ingredients that go into producing 1384 01:06:57,720 --> 01:06:59,880 Speaker 22: food like that too, and that can also not be 1385 01:07:00,200 --> 01:07:01,480 Speaker 22: super great for you if you ate it on a 1386 01:07:01,640 --> 01:07:04,720 Speaker 22: very regular basis as well. So I think you know, 1387 01:07:04,920 --> 01:07:07,560 Speaker 22: whether or not we're talking about junk food or fine dining, 1388 01:07:08,280 --> 01:07:10,800 Speaker 22: that's not everyday food. We should be focusing on much 1389 01:07:10,880 --> 01:07:13,240 Speaker 22: more simple food that we can produce ourselves, and that 1390 01:07:13,520 --> 01:07:17,640 Speaker 22: allows us to enjoy those occasional foods in a little 1391 01:07:17,680 --> 01:07:18,440 Speaker 22: bit more moderation. 1392 01:07:18,680 --> 01:07:19,040 Speaker 8: Do you reckon? 1393 01:07:19,080 --> 01:07:20,600 Speaker 2: There's still a good number of people out there in 1394 01:07:20,640 --> 01:07:23,080 Speaker 2: New Zealand and Australia who know how to cook. We're 1395 01:07:23,120 --> 01:07:25,680 Speaker 2: taught how to cook, know what a fry pan is 1396 01:07:25,880 --> 01:07:29,040 Speaker 2: and will you spend their life cooking as opposed to 1397 01:07:29,120 --> 01:07:30,720 Speaker 2: relying on uber I. 1398 01:07:31,160 --> 01:07:34,400 Speaker 22: Think that there is always the danger of losing skill 1399 01:07:34,480 --> 01:07:38,400 Speaker 22: to convenience. But there are so many people out there, 1400 01:07:38,480 --> 01:07:41,600 Speaker 22: so many families, and so many cultural backgrounds that where 1401 01:07:41,640 --> 01:07:46,480 Speaker 22: the emphasis is on preserving recipes, preserving the stories that 1402 01:07:46,600 --> 01:07:49,200 Speaker 22: come with keeping those recipes alive. And I don't think 1403 01:07:49,280 --> 01:07:51,440 Speaker 22: that will ever die as long as humans are around. 1404 01:07:51,880 --> 01:07:56,040 Speaker 22: It's the way that we always find ways to tell 1405 01:07:56,120 --> 01:08:00,600 Speaker 22: stories and to explain our purpose and our past life. 1406 01:08:00,680 --> 01:08:03,640 Speaker 22: And I think that recipes help us do that, and 1407 01:08:03,720 --> 01:08:05,840 Speaker 22: that's why they are passed down from family to family. 1408 01:08:05,960 --> 01:08:09,120 Speaker 22: So I would love to believe that we never lose 1409 01:08:09,240 --> 01:08:12,160 Speaker 22: that as long as there are frypants and produce around. 1410 01:08:12,480 --> 01:08:14,520 Speaker 2: Now here's a fun thing. I didn't know this about you. 1411 01:08:15,280 --> 01:08:18,000 Speaker 2: You co host for UFC. Is that true? 1412 01:08:18,720 --> 01:08:24,240 Speaker 22: I have done some work in the UFC space, interviewing 1413 01:08:24,400 --> 01:08:29,479 Speaker 22: MMA fighters usually post ceremonial way ins just before just 1414 01:08:29,560 --> 01:08:31,439 Speaker 22: before fights for the UFC. 1415 01:08:31,640 --> 01:08:31,840 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1416 01:08:32,200 --> 01:08:35,040 Speaker 2: Wow, So you're in the kitchen, in the ring, in 1417 01:08:35,160 --> 01:08:36,600 Speaker 2: the you know what do they call it? 1418 01:08:37,800 --> 01:08:37,960 Speaker 22: Yeah? 1419 01:08:38,040 --> 01:08:40,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, the octagon. I mean that's diversity. 1420 01:08:41,640 --> 01:08:43,880 Speaker 22: Yeah, well, I mean it's fun, isn't it. I think 1421 01:08:43,960 --> 01:08:46,640 Speaker 22: that we forget that we can all be really multifaceted 1422 01:08:46,720 --> 01:08:48,640 Speaker 22: human beings. And I kind of take a little bit 1423 01:08:48,680 --> 01:08:52,200 Speaker 22: of joy in people being surprised by the other things 1424 01:08:52,240 --> 01:08:55,240 Speaker 22: that I might be interested in and hopefully good at 1425 01:08:55,320 --> 01:08:58,880 Speaker 22: as well. So mma is something that I find really 1426 01:08:58,960 --> 01:09:01,760 Speaker 22: interesting to watch, and I really want to know what 1427 01:09:01,920 --> 01:09:04,799 Speaker 22: the passion and the purpose is to making people fearless 1428 01:09:04,960 --> 01:09:08,160 Speaker 22: enough to get into the octagon and fight. Martial arts 1429 01:09:08,240 --> 01:09:11,479 Speaker 22: is something that I've grown up with and I continue 1430 01:09:11,520 --> 01:09:15,640 Speaker 22: to do. So it's something that's, yeah, not everybody knows 1431 01:09:15,640 --> 01:09:17,840 Speaker 22: about because it hasn't been part of my professional life 1432 01:09:17,840 --> 01:09:20,479 Speaker 22: for a very long time. But I do enjoy it. 1433 01:09:20,880 --> 01:09:24,280 Speaker 2: And yeah, we're big fans about a sign you for 1434 01:09:24,640 --> 01:09:25,400 Speaker 2: obvious reasons. 1435 01:09:25,600 --> 01:09:28,800 Speaker 22: Oh Isy, what a legend. I interviewed him actually for 1436 01:09:29,520 --> 01:09:30,759 Speaker 22: Fox Sports in Australia. 1437 01:09:31,000 --> 01:09:34,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a delight and sort of a self driven 1438 01:09:34,560 --> 01:09:37,120 Speaker 2: force of nature, of course, And yet I got to 1439 01:09:37,160 --> 01:09:40,559 Speaker 2: tell you, in that ring, it's all blood and it's 1440 01:09:40,600 --> 01:09:43,960 Speaker 2: all on, and it's a close line to be too much, 1441 01:09:44,040 --> 01:09:44,639 Speaker 2: don't you reckon? 1442 01:09:45,600 --> 01:09:48,360 Speaker 22: I don't know about that. I think that every fighter 1443 01:09:48,439 --> 01:09:51,960 Speaker 22: steps into the cage or the octagon, fully prepared for 1444 01:09:52,080 --> 01:09:54,479 Speaker 22: what might happen to them, and they know that that's 1445 01:09:54,520 --> 01:09:57,800 Speaker 22: what martial arts is. I think that we forget that. 1446 01:09:59,280 --> 01:10:02,240 Speaker 22: You know, Marshal art have been with humanity since humanity 1447 01:10:02,439 --> 01:10:05,240 Speaker 22: ever existed. You know, the first Olympics had wrestling and boxing, 1448 01:10:05,439 --> 01:10:07,800 Speaker 22: So it is part of who we are to have 1449 01:10:07,960 --> 01:10:11,360 Speaker 22: that domineering fighting spirit, and you do need to set 1450 01:10:11,400 --> 01:10:13,880 Speaker 22: aside certain parts of yourself in order to perform on 1451 01:10:14,000 --> 01:10:17,080 Speaker 22: the world stage in that regard. But I think is 1452 01:10:17,160 --> 01:10:19,600 Speaker 22: he always does it in a way that shows a 1453 01:10:19,760 --> 01:10:23,360 Speaker 22: sense of respect for his opponent, a sense of respect 1454 01:10:23,439 --> 01:10:26,799 Speaker 22: for the history that goes into everything that he's learned technique, 1455 01:10:26,880 --> 01:10:30,120 Speaker 22: and also just a really high fight IQ as well. 1456 01:10:30,600 --> 01:10:32,120 Speaker 22: I really have a lot of respect for him and 1457 01:10:32,280 --> 01:10:33,240 Speaker 22: love watching him fight. 1458 01:10:33,680 --> 01:10:36,640 Speaker 2: Absolutely, he's awesome. Now, as for the taste of art, 1459 01:10:37,200 --> 01:10:40,120 Speaker 2: is it a hit? Is this series two, three, four, five, six, 1460 01:10:40,200 --> 01:10:40,599 Speaker 2: and seven? 1461 01:10:40,960 --> 01:10:43,400 Speaker 22: You know what? It felt really really good to make 1462 01:10:44,120 --> 01:10:46,519 Speaker 22: a lot of fun and a lot of compelling watching 1463 01:10:46,600 --> 01:10:50,000 Speaker 22: for the viewer. It's not just about obviously what I 1464 01:10:50,160 --> 01:10:52,360 Speaker 22: can taste that, it's a way that the viewers will 1465 01:10:52,439 --> 01:10:54,720 Speaker 22: consume the show as well. I've been part of some 1466 01:10:54,920 --> 01:10:58,639 Speaker 22: really spectacularly successful shows and food, and this felt exactly 1467 01:10:58,840 --> 01:11:01,760 Speaker 22: like that in terms of what's to come next. 1468 01:11:01,840 --> 01:11:02,360 Speaker 1: Who knows. 1469 01:11:02,720 --> 01:11:06,360 Speaker 22: That's not My's not part of my remiss, but I'm 1470 01:11:06,360 --> 01:11:08,200 Speaker 22: definitely hopeful I get to come back and spend a 1471 01:11:08,240 --> 01:11:09,559 Speaker 22: bit more time out at or Well. 1472 01:11:09,600 --> 01:11:12,000 Speaker 2: We wish you all the very best, delightful to talk 1473 01:11:12,080 --> 01:11:12,920 Speaker 2: with you appreciate it. 1474 01:11:13,479 --> 01:11:14,679 Speaker 22: Likewise, thank you so much. 1475 01:11:15,040 --> 01:11:18,880 Speaker 2: LISTI The on seven episodes starts Thursday, seven point thirty, 1476 01:11:19,000 --> 01:11:22,479 Speaker 2: TV one, TV and Z Plus. Taste of Art eight 1477 01:11:22,720 --> 01:11:23,439 Speaker 2: twenty two. 1478 01:11:24,600 --> 01:11:28,840 Speaker 1: My Costing Breakfast with Vida, Retirement, Communities News, togs Head b. 1479 01:11:29,800 --> 01:11:32,679 Speaker 2: Now here's a situation. A lot of families quietly wrestled 1480 01:11:32,720 --> 01:11:34,800 Speaker 2: with you know, you got mom and dad. They're not 1481 01:11:34,880 --> 01:11:37,439 Speaker 2: hearing properly any more. Conversation a little bit harder. Family 1482 01:11:37,479 --> 01:11:40,280 Speaker 2: gathering's a but tiring. You see them drifting out of 1483 01:11:40,320 --> 01:11:42,200 Speaker 2: the room even when they're sitting right there. And often 1484 01:11:42,240 --> 01:11:44,240 Speaker 2: the sticking point isn't whether to help, it's the cost. 1485 01:11:44,320 --> 01:11:47,200 Speaker 2: The cost is the killer. So traditional hearing care, helping 1486 01:11:47,240 --> 01:11:49,960 Speaker 2: a parent usually means forking out thousands of dollars up front. 1487 01:11:50,000 --> 01:11:51,880 Speaker 2: For those hearing aids, Now it often means no one 1488 01:11:51,960 --> 01:11:55,120 Speaker 2: does anything because the cost feels overwhelming. So this is 1489 01:11:55,160 --> 01:11:57,879 Speaker 2: where Resonate Health comes and they change that equation completely. 1490 01:11:57,920 --> 01:12:00,560 Speaker 2: Instead of a large one off payment, in care is 1491 01:12:00,640 --> 01:12:03,960 Speaker 2: available for ninety dollars a month, which includes top of 1492 01:12:04,000 --> 01:12:07,839 Speaker 2: the range hearing aids, ongoing professional care, future technology upgrades. 1493 01:12:07,840 --> 01:12:10,280 Speaker 2: And here is where it really makes sense for the 1494 01:12:10,320 --> 01:12:13,160 Speaker 2: families that monthly cost can be shared. You see split 1495 01:12:13,240 --> 01:12:15,479 Speaker 2: between the siblings. Suddenly you're talking about a small amount 1496 01:12:15,479 --> 01:12:17,560 Speaker 2: each month to help mum and dad stay connected and 1497 01:12:17,720 --> 01:12:19,439 Speaker 2: confident in part of the family life. So that's an 1498 01:12:19,479 --> 01:12:21,960 Speaker 2: investment worth making. So if you're thinking about how you 1499 01:12:22,160 --> 01:12:25,120 Speaker 2: can help a loved one to hear properly again eight 1500 01:12:25,200 --> 01:12:28,240 Speaker 2: hundred seven three seven sixty sixty two eight hundred seven 1501 01:12:28,280 --> 01:12:31,880 Speaker 2: three seven sixty six two, which is Resonatehealth dot co 1502 01:12:32,200 --> 01:12:37,519 Speaker 2: dot m Zscar Mike Grade interview, Mike Graad interview. She's 1503 01:12:37,640 --> 01:12:40,799 Speaker 2: fab Wow, Mike, she put you and your Nancy Arson 1504 01:12:40,880 --> 01:12:43,920 Speaker 2: and your place. I don't want the all not think 1505 01:12:43,960 --> 01:12:46,320 Speaker 2: this morning it was it just me yesterday Obama in 1506 01:12:46,400 --> 01:12:49,400 Speaker 2: that podcast thing. Did the number of people in the 1507 01:12:49,439 --> 01:12:52,679 Speaker 2: media who took that seriously? I cannot believe the guy 1508 01:12:52,920 --> 01:12:56,000 Speaker 2: was joking and he was not only joking about UFOs. 1509 01:12:56,520 --> 01:13:00,200 Speaker 2: He was obviously joking about UFOs, and yet yesterday, if 1510 01:13:00,200 --> 01:13:04,280 Speaker 2: you look at certain outlets, no names mentioned. In fact, 1511 01:13:04,320 --> 01:13:06,559 Speaker 2: Ryan was taking it seriously this morning as well. Ryan 1512 01:13:06,680 --> 01:13:09,200 Speaker 2: was absolutely convinced it was serious. I said, he's joking, 1513 01:13:09,240 --> 01:13:12,040 Speaker 2: goes on, I don't. I think he's very serious, and 1514 01:13:12,200 --> 01:13:15,800 Speaker 2: he's it's so joking. He's had to clarify it this morning, 1515 01:13:15,960 --> 01:13:21,080 Speaker 2: just saying, in case you took me seriously, I was joking. 1516 01:13:21,400 --> 01:13:23,599 Speaker 18: It's like the Rubio Speci thing that you've been referring 1517 01:13:23,640 --> 01:13:25,679 Speaker 18: to the last couple of days. It's like everybody looks 1518 01:13:25,720 --> 01:13:27,080 Speaker 18: at everything a different way, and. 1519 01:13:27,400 --> 01:13:29,400 Speaker 2: I know it's like sometimes you can try and be 1520 01:13:29,520 --> 01:13:31,240 Speaker 2: funny and everyone just look. 1521 01:13:31,320 --> 01:13:33,479 Speaker 18: He believes in some people out there think that you 1522 01:13:33,600 --> 01:13:35,519 Speaker 18: actually like country music and it's. 1523 01:13:35,960 --> 01:13:37,960 Speaker 2: I don't know where they got that from. News at 1524 01:13:37,960 --> 01:13:40,360 Speaker 2: a couple of moments send this massive back down from 1525 01:13:40,400 --> 01:13:41,400 Speaker 2: the government in the UK. 1526 01:13:41,800 --> 01:13:47,639 Speaker 1: Detail shortly opinion edit, informed, unapologetic, the mic asking breakfast 1527 01:13:47,880 --> 01:13:52,200 Speaker 1: with a Veda, retirement, Communities, Life your Way, News, togs'd be. 1528 01:13:52,439 --> 01:13:56,000 Speaker 2: Interesting reporter yesterday from the International Monetary Fund into the 1529 01:13:56,080 --> 01:13:59,519 Speaker 2: Australian economy and they took. I mean, these things come 1530 01:13:59,560 --> 01:14:01,679 Speaker 2: out all the but they paid attention to it yesterday 1531 01:14:01,680 --> 01:14:05,720 Speaker 2: because they made a couple of reasonably bold statements. Not 1532 01:14:06,040 --> 01:14:09,280 Speaker 2: that it would be I'll be fascination to us unless 1533 01:14:09,320 --> 01:14:11,439 Speaker 2: you're leaving New Zealand for Australia, of course, but there 1534 01:14:11,560 --> 01:14:14,719 Speaker 2: is one thing in their round tax that we should 1535 01:14:14,760 --> 01:14:16,600 Speaker 2: be paying note of, and I'll come back to that 1536 01:14:16,680 --> 01:14:19,439 Speaker 2: in just a couple of moments. Big backdown for Starma 1537 01:14:19,520 --> 01:14:21,800 Speaker 2: starts the week still as Prime Minister, as I said 1538 01:14:21,800 --> 01:14:23,280 Speaker 2: at the beginning of the program, which is no mean 1539 01:14:23,320 --> 01:14:26,160 Speaker 2: feet given his circumstances at the moment, but a massive 1540 01:14:26,240 --> 01:14:29,519 Speaker 2: back down on the polling and the local body elections. 1541 01:14:30,200 --> 01:14:33,080 Speaker 2: And they had abandoned a number of local body elections 1542 01:14:33,160 --> 01:14:35,920 Speaker 2: under the guise that the local bodies weren't ready, so 1543 01:14:36,080 --> 01:14:39,160 Speaker 2: we weren't going to need elections this year. Nigel thought 1544 01:14:39,160 --> 01:14:40,519 Speaker 2: about that and did something about it. 1545 01:14:40,760 --> 01:14:41,120 Speaker 3: This year. 1546 01:14:41,240 --> 01:14:44,320 Speaker 19: Up to thirty councils, four point six million people denied 1547 01:14:44,320 --> 01:14:48,759 Speaker 19: the vote. In some cases Norfolk, Suffolk, East and West Sussex. 1548 01:14:48,840 --> 01:14:51,280 Speaker 19: This would have been the second year in a row 1549 01:14:51,960 --> 01:14:54,000 Speaker 19: that people are paying their council tax would have been 1550 01:14:54,040 --> 01:14:57,040 Speaker 19: denied the chance to vote. It's a victory for reform, 1551 01:14:57,360 --> 01:15:00,719 Speaker 19: but more importantly it's a victory for democracy in this country. 1552 01:15:02,520 --> 01:15:06,479 Speaker 17: International correspondence with Insie Eye Insurance Peace of Mind for 1553 01:15:06,560 --> 01:15:07,720 Speaker 17: New Zealand business. 1554 01:15:08,200 --> 01:15:12,120 Speaker 20: In the UK run morning to you, Yeah, good morning. 1555 01:15:12,280 --> 01:15:15,880 Speaker 20: This was quite a victory for both Farage and for 1556 01:15:15,960 --> 01:15:19,160 Speaker 20: the Daily Telegraph, which has also been running a campaign 1557 01:15:19,320 --> 01:15:21,800 Speaker 20: every day of the week for the past couple of 1558 01:15:21,920 --> 01:15:27,160 Speaker 20: months about about what was what the Labor government was 1559 01:15:27,240 --> 01:15:31,439 Speaker 20: running and so your listeners known. The government said it 1560 01:15:31,560 --> 01:15:35,719 Speaker 20: wasn't it that was delaying the council elections. It handed 1561 01:15:35,880 --> 01:15:39,519 Speaker 20: over the jurisdiction as to whether they should be delayed 1562 01:15:40,280 --> 01:15:44,080 Speaker 20: to the local councilors, who of course wanted them delayed 1563 01:15:44,320 --> 01:15:48,440 Speaker 20: because they're sits rup for grabs. So it was an absurdity. 1564 01:15:49,200 --> 01:15:53,840 Speaker 20: And I interviewed on Saturday on My Times radio show 1565 01:15:55,120 --> 01:15:57,880 Speaker 20: the chairman of the Electoral Commission, and I don't know 1566 01:15:57,920 --> 01:16:00,800 Speaker 20: if you know the Electual Commission. They they usually just 1567 01:16:00,880 --> 01:16:04,160 Speaker 20: say yes, everything is very good, everything is fine. It's 1568 01:16:04,200 --> 01:16:07,519 Speaker 20: one of those quangos which never does anything you might think. 1569 01:16:08,200 --> 01:16:10,280 Speaker 20: But they were ranting about it. They were saying this 1570 01:16:10,400 --> 01:16:12,640 Speaker 20: shouldn't happen. It is totally unacceptable. 1571 01:16:12,760 --> 01:16:15,599 Speaker 2: No, I'm so pleased at hers because when you look 1572 01:16:15,600 --> 01:16:18,240 Speaker 2: at these things from such a distance, I thought, how 1573 01:16:18,400 --> 01:16:20,519 Speaker 2: is it that Britain isn't up in arms over this? 1574 01:16:20,600 --> 01:16:22,720 Speaker 2: And I mean you talk about Georgia and America and 1575 01:16:22,760 --> 01:16:26,240 Speaker 2: Trump and all that sort of stuff. When you're delaying elections, 1576 01:16:26,880 --> 01:16:29,800 Speaker 2: you're denying democracy in a country that still purports to 1577 01:16:29,880 --> 01:16:32,559 Speaker 2: be a democracy. So is this egg on Starmer's face 1578 01:16:32,640 --> 01:16:34,679 Speaker 2: or has he distanced himself enough do you think? 1579 01:16:36,600 --> 01:16:39,479 Speaker 20: No, it's massive egg on Starmer's face. And yeah, you're 1580 01:16:39,560 --> 01:16:43,080 Speaker 20: quite right, of course. May I mean if this had 1581 01:16:43,120 --> 01:16:44,760 Speaker 20: been the right that had done it, there would have 1582 01:16:44,800 --> 01:16:48,360 Speaker 20: been howls of fascism and people marching in the street. 1583 01:16:49,920 --> 01:16:52,559 Speaker 20: You know, why wasn't there more of an outcry about it? Well, 1584 01:16:52,640 --> 01:16:55,760 Speaker 20: some of us wrote about it quite often. But just 1585 01:16:55,800 --> 01:16:58,000 Speaker 20: wait till the elections take place and there's a twenty 1586 01:16:58,040 --> 01:17:03,200 Speaker 20: percent turnout. You know, it's hard to argue that the 1587 01:17:03,680 --> 01:17:06,639 Speaker 20: population is gagging from all democracy. 1588 01:17:07,600 --> 01:17:09,800 Speaker 2: As far as the as far as Starma goes, still 1589 01:17:09,880 --> 01:17:13,240 Speaker 2: Monday your time? Is the leadership still in trouble? Is 1590 01:17:13,320 --> 01:17:16,240 Speaker 2: Doyle still about? Is there still enough about for this 1591 01:17:16,400 --> 01:17:18,080 Speaker 2: to be a conversation into another week. 1592 01:17:20,200 --> 01:17:22,280 Speaker 20: It's very odd. You see, I've always thought that the 1593 01:17:22,360 --> 01:17:28,240 Speaker 20: Doyle story was miner, but talking again on Saturday to someone, 1594 01:17:28,240 --> 01:17:30,320 Speaker 20: they thought it was more serious of the Mandelson story 1595 01:17:30,320 --> 01:17:36,000 Speaker 20: because this was directly about Starman's judgment immediately and because 1596 01:17:36,040 --> 01:17:39,720 Speaker 20: he knew that Doyle had been supporting this convicted sex 1597 01:17:39,800 --> 01:17:43,640 Speaker 20: best It's still around and there are more problems that 1598 01:17:43,680 --> 01:17:47,000 Speaker 20: are still around it. It looks as if the Labor 1599 01:17:47,040 --> 01:17:50,560 Speaker 20: Party is now trying to coalesce around John Healey, the 1600 01:17:50,640 --> 01:17:54,320 Speaker 20: Defense Secretary is a possible stalking course or a runner 1601 01:17:54,400 --> 01:17:59,880 Speaker 20: against against Starmer. This is because none of the others 1602 01:18:00,040 --> 01:18:03,040 Speaker 20: our suitable candidates, you know, and Andy Burnham can't do 1603 01:18:03,080 --> 01:18:06,400 Speaker 20: it because it's not an MP. So the problems continue. 1604 01:18:07,479 --> 01:18:11,479 Speaker 2: Speaking of Healey, this defense thing once again, is this 1605 01:18:11,600 --> 01:18:14,000 Speaker 2: a distraction? Where is it coming from? And the announcement 1606 01:18:14,080 --> 01:18:16,599 Speaker 2: being that we're going to you know, yet again boost 1607 01:18:16,600 --> 01:18:18,720 Speaker 2: de fense spending is all that real? Is all that 1608 01:18:18,840 --> 01:18:19,400 Speaker 2: going to happen? 1609 01:18:21,320 --> 01:18:24,920 Speaker 20: Well it never used, it does. We've been announcing we're 1610 01:18:24,960 --> 01:18:30,639 Speaker 20: going to raise our spending, but for the last two years, understand, 1611 01:18:30,840 --> 01:18:33,280 Speaker 20: for the last year and a half, and nothing's happened. 1612 01:18:33,520 --> 01:18:37,000 Speaker 20: You know, there's virtually nothing was in the last budget 1613 01:18:37,120 --> 01:18:42,479 Speaker 20: for the armed forces. This is in order to curry 1614 01:18:42,560 --> 01:18:48,479 Speaker 20: favor with America after after the Native meeting in Munich 1615 01:18:48,600 --> 01:18:53,200 Speaker 20: and then the security meeting in Munich. But it's still 1616 01:18:53,800 --> 01:18:56,960 Speaker 20: I'll believe it when it happens. I believe when it happens, 1617 01:18:57,000 --> 01:18:57,679 Speaker 20: make okay. 1618 01:18:58,040 --> 01:19:00,479 Speaker 2: And what's your view on Rubio? I mean, there's so 1619 01:19:00,640 --> 01:19:03,000 Speaker 2: much coverage of this Rubio speech and depending on who 1620 01:19:03,040 --> 01:19:05,200 Speaker 2: you were, depending on how you're viewed it. Of course, 1621 01:19:05,520 --> 01:19:07,840 Speaker 2: what was Britain's take out of what he said or 1622 01:19:07,880 --> 01:19:08,360 Speaker 2: didn't say? 1623 01:19:11,400 --> 01:19:15,200 Speaker 20: I think, I mean it's a good cop bad cop stuff. 1624 01:19:15,240 --> 01:19:18,360 Speaker 20: At first, his speech was warmly received because he didn't 1625 01:19:18,400 --> 01:19:20,800 Speaker 20: say all the Europeans are scumbags, which is what you 1626 01:19:20,880 --> 01:19:24,599 Speaker 20: get from Trump and Vance. Instead it was some far 1627 01:19:24,680 --> 01:19:27,439 Speaker 20: more immediatory and you're our allies and always will be 1628 01:19:27,560 --> 01:19:32,120 Speaker 20: our allies and all this kind of stuff. But nonetheless, 1629 01:19:32,520 --> 01:19:35,640 Speaker 20: the underlying message was the same, which is you've got 1630 01:19:35,680 --> 01:19:37,640 Speaker 20: to stand on your own two feet, and you've got 1631 01:19:37,720 --> 01:19:41,320 Speaker 20: to spend more on defense, and you've got to stand 1632 01:19:41,439 --> 01:19:44,800 Speaker 20: up for certain values. What those values were he didn't 1633 01:19:44,800 --> 01:19:48,479 Speaker 20: actually spell out, but by democracy and freedom of speech 1634 01:19:48,560 --> 01:19:51,519 Speaker 20: he means, you know, non wokeness. I suspect as well, 1635 01:19:52,720 --> 01:19:55,439 Speaker 20: but it hasn't gone down too badly here, and I 1636 01:19:55,520 --> 01:19:59,439 Speaker 20: think there was probably some relief within the government that 1637 01:19:59,600 --> 01:20:02,320 Speaker 20: it wasn't another round basically of europe bashing. 1638 01:20:02,600 --> 01:20:04,320 Speaker 2: No, while I've got you by the way, since we 1639 01:20:04,400 --> 01:20:07,320 Speaker 2: last talked, that Palestine Action court decision has been handed down. 1640 01:20:07,400 --> 01:20:11,040 Speaker 2: Obviously the government's going to appeal. But this is the 1641 01:20:11,080 --> 01:20:12,720 Speaker 2: government between a rock and a Hanna place. I mean, 1642 01:20:12,760 --> 01:20:15,360 Speaker 2: do Palestine Action hit the street that they start getting arrested, 1643 01:20:15,439 --> 01:20:17,719 Speaker 2: how does this play out literally between now and the appeal. 1644 01:20:20,200 --> 01:20:25,400 Speaker 20: It's a bad, bad, bad thing to have happened. We 1645 01:20:25,479 --> 01:20:28,879 Speaker 20: are in a position now where court cases are decided 1646 01:20:29,000 --> 01:20:32,400 Speaker 20: not by what actually happens, but by what the sympathies 1647 01:20:32,439 --> 01:20:35,040 Speaker 20: are with the defendants. And we've seen a little bit 1648 01:20:35,080 --> 01:20:38,280 Speaker 20: of that with the Just Stop Oil protesters. How you 1649 01:20:38,400 --> 01:20:41,320 Speaker 20: can see a police woman being smashed across the back 1650 01:20:41,920 --> 01:20:44,479 Speaker 20: and then decide that it didn't take place because you 1651 01:20:44,640 --> 01:20:49,439 Speaker 20: agree with not funding Israel. It's bad for the government, 1652 01:20:49,560 --> 01:20:51,880 Speaker 20: but worse than that, it's very, very bad for our 1653 01:20:52,000 --> 01:20:55,840 Speaker 20: judicial system. And I'm glad they're appealing and there is 1654 01:20:55,920 --> 01:20:59,000 Speaker 20: another case to come anyway, and we can't say too 1655 01:20:59,120 --> 01:21:01,360 Speaker 20: much about it over here because it's sub true to say, of. 1656 01:21:01,400 --> 01:21:04,240 Speaker 2: Course, all right, catch up on Thursday. Appreciated. It has 1657 01:21:04,280 --> 01:21:06,360 Speaker 2: always brought a little out of Britain. Vaping in cars, 1658 01:21:06,439 --> 01:21:10,479 Speaker 2: by the way, it could be banned if you're carrying children. 1659 01:21:10,680 --> 01:21:15,160 Speaker 2: Twelve week consultation now. Also indoor spaces where smoking's already 1660 01:21:15,200 --> 01:21:19,120 Speaker 2: banned would also become vape and heated tobacco free under 1661 01:21:19,160 --> 01:21:21,320 Speaker 2: some new proposals. So that's the young last from that 1662 01:21:21,360 --> 01:21:23,120 Speaker 2: particular part of the world. Sixteen too. 1663 01:21:24,720 --> 01:21:29,120 Speaker 1: The My Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered 1664 01:21:29,160 --> 01:21:30,160 Speaker 1: by news Talks at b. 1665 01:21:31,360 --> 01:21:33,680 Speaker 2: News Talks every thirteen Away from nine. Couple of things 1666 01:21:33,720 --> 01:21:36,040 Speaker 2: out of Australia. There was a leak yesterday Susan Lee, 1667 01:21:36,040 --> 01:21:39,200 Speaker 2: who's no longer the leader of the Coalition, did have 1668 01:21:39,320 --> 01:21:42,760 Speaker 2: some plans to make some announcements on immigration, a tougher 1669 01:21:42,800 --> 01:21:46,960 Speaker 2: English language requirements, banning people from regional terra hotspots, thirteen countries, 1670 01:21:47,240 --> 01:21:50,639 Speaker 2: very trump esque thirteen different countries, mainly in Africa of course, 1671 01:21:50,760 --> 01:21:55,000 Speaker 2: overall lower migration numbers. Now, the problem with that is 1672 01:21:55,080 --> 01:21:59,599 Speaker 2: it would have been for that particular political constituency relatively popular, 1673 01:21:59,680 --> 01:22:02,080 Speaker 2: so angus Tator, the new leader of the Coalition, sought 1674 01:22:02,120 --> 01:22:04,639 Speaker 2: it between a rock and a hard place, and he's 1675 01:22:04,920 --> 01:22:08,320 Speaker 2: sort of talked about bad migration and what that means. 1676 01:22:08,360 --> 01:22:11,719 Speaker 2: Nobody seems to know. We shouldn't discriminate, he says, based 1677 01:22:11,760 --> 01:22:14,800 Speaker 2: on racial religion, but we should based on values. Once again, 1678 01:22:14,960 --> 01:22:17,200 Speaker 2: what that means nobody knows either. So he's got time. 1679 01:22:17,240 --> 01:22:18,800 Speaker 2: He's only been on the job three and a half minutes. 1680 01:22:18,880 --> 01:22:21,639 Speaker 2: But anyway, so she looked Trump esque and was about 1681 01:22:21,720 --> 01:22:24,599 Speaker 2: to relay that by way of an idea or a policy. 1682 01:22:25,000 --> 01:22:28,280 Speaker 2: She's now gone and he's in, and everyone's going, well, 1683 01:22:28,439 --> 01:22:30,880 Speaker 2: do you agree with her? Is that your policy? What's 1684 01:22:30,920 --> 01:22:34,479 Speaker 2: going on meantime? Pauline Hanson, and she's quite right, said 1685 01:22:34,600 --> 01:22:37,160 Speaker 2: no one, And this is why the coalition's in the trouble. 1686 01:22:37,200 --> 01:22:39,920 Speaker 2: It is no one will ever be as strong as 1687 01:22:39,960 --> 01:22:42,280 Speaker 2: one nation non immigration. That's why she's going well at 1688 01:22:42,280 --> 01:22:44,280 Speaker 2: the moment. It's why, of course Barage is going well 1689 01:22:44,439 --> 01:22:47,040 Speaker 2: at the moment. But then we come to the business 1690 01:22:47,160 --> 01:22:50,080 Speaker 2: of the International Monetary Fund. They released a report yesterday 1691 01:22:50,120 --> 01:22:52,080 Speaker 2: on the Australian economy and they said a whole bunch 1692 01:22:52,120 --> 01:22:55,760 Speaker 2: of interesting stuff. The government. They want the government to 1693 01:22:55,800 --> 01:22:57,479 Speaker 2: do a whole bunch of stuff coming up May twelve 1694 01:22:57,640 --> 01:23:02,479 Speaker 2: in the budget, embrace far reaching tax reform in their words, 1695 01:23:02,520 --> 01:23:05,920 Speaker 2: not mine increase in the GST, overhauling the capital gains 1696 01:23:05,960 --> 01:23:10,960 Speaker 2: tax and cutting company tax. Now they want red tape 1697 01:23:11,000 --> 01:23:15,040 Speaker 2: gone or a cutting off, industrial relations reform, prioritizing infrastructure 1698 01:23:15,080 --> 01:23:17,479 Speaker 2: with large economic benefits. All of this is interesting to 1699 01:23:17,560 --> 01:23:19,320 Speaker 2: the extent that normally they just say a whole out 1700 01:23:19,320 --> 01:23:21,360 Speaker 2: of bland things and nobody pays any attention to. But 1701 01:23:21,760 --> 01:23:23,479 Speaker 2: here's a couple of quotes that you want to think about. 1702 01:23:23,520 --> 01:23:27,040 Speaker 2: Why because they're applicable to us in this election campaign. 1703 01:23:27,160 --> 01:23:31,679 Speaker 2: Why because who's got a capital gains tax? Labor tax 1704 01:23:31,760 --> 01:23:36,160 Speaker 2: breaks including superannuation concessions in capital gains tax discount could 1705 01:23:36,160 --> 01:23:38,719 Speaker 2: be phased out to generate a more equitable and efficient 1706 01:23:38,800 --> 01:23:42,320 Speaker 2: tax system, they say. And here's the big line. If 1707 01:23:42,400 --> 01:23:46,920 Speaker 2: you tax residential housing, there will be less of it. 1708 01:23:48,520 --> 01:23:52,360 Speaker 2: If you tax residential housing, there will be less of it. 1709 01:23:53,160 --> 01:23:55,720 Speaker 2: So Labour can't have it both ways. Labour want more 1710 01:23:55,800 --> 01:23:59,760 Speaker 2: supply to theoretically bring the price down, and yet the 1711 01:23:59,840 --> 01:24:04,360 Speaker 2: moment you start taxing it, there will be less of it. Hence, 1712 01:24:05,000 --> 01:24:07,519 Speaker 2: when there's less of it, the price goes up, So 1713 01:24:07,640 --> 01:24:11,000 Speaker 2: how do they explain their way out of that? Maybe 1714 01:24:11,080 --> 01:24:13,160 Speaker 2: we'll ask Genny when she's on the program tomorrow ten 1715 01:24:13,200 --> 01:24:14,840 Speaker 2: away from nine, the. 1716 01:24:15,000 --> 01:24:18,120 Speaker 3: Mike Hosking Breakfast with the Defender News toks dead b. 1717 01:24:18,320 --> 01:24:20,479 Speaker 2: I'm not sure which way to think here. I'm reading 1718 01:24:20,600 --> 01:24:22,400 Speaker 2: yesterday David Kirk, who I seem to have a lot 1719 01:24:22,439 --> 01:24:24,680 Speaker 2: of time for, I mean, very successful businessman and he's 1720 01:24:24,760 --> 01:24:27,080 Speaker 2: chairman currently of the New Zealand Rugby Union. You've never 1721 01:24:27,160 --> 01:24:30,120 Speaker 2: heard more of them due largely at the moment of 1722 01:24:30,120 --> 01:24:31,679 Speaker 2: the fact that they don't appear to have many people 1723 01:24:31,720 --> 01:24:34,040 Speaker 2: actually working at the union anymore because they've all left 1724 01:24:34,080 --> 01:24:36,479 Speaker 2: and they're busy replacing them. So a guy called Chris 1725 01:24:36,760 --> 01:24:40,679 Speaker 2: Kinraid has been appointed chief financial officer, Chris Brown chief 1726 01:24:40,680 --> 01:24:43,880 Speaker 2: Commercial Officer. Brown is a former executive at mackers Kin 1727 01:24:43,960 --> 01:24:49,000 Speaker 2: Raid is former chief executive Hellestein Glassons Lancaster, who's the 1728 01:24:49,080 --> 01:24:52,200 Speaker 2: CEO of Fillan former lock for the Crusaders of course, 1729 01:24:52,400 --> 01:24:54,439 Speaker 2: I mean that alone should make you see I mean, 1730 01:24:54,439 --> 01:24:57,479 Speaker 2: if you're a lock for just Crusaders generally, were you 1731 01:24:57,600 --> 01:25:00,760 Speaker 2: ever a Crusader? Yes, I was excellent. What job do 1732 01:25:00,800 --> 01:25:04,080 Speaker 2: you want that's plenty for me anyway. So he's in there, 1733 01:25:04,160 --> 01:25:07,040 Speaker 2: standing by to stand by, but they're taking their time 1734 01:25:07,120 --> 01:25:08,040 Speaker 2: to make the right appointment. 1735 01:25:08,080 --> 01:25:08,200 Speaker 3: Now. 1736 01:25:08,280 --> 01:25:10,120 Speaker 2: I don't know whether I'm filled with confidence in that 1737 01:25:10,960 --> 01:25:13,240 Speaker 2: or whether I'm filled with sort of a fear, because 1738 01:25:13,320 --> 01:25:15,680 Speaker 2: I don't believe the way they've handled the coaching thing 1739 01:25:15,680 --> 01:25:18,599 Speaker 2: has work particularly well to this point. You might note, 1740 01:25:18,600 --> 01:25:20,120 Speaker 2: at this current point in time, we don't actually have 1741 01:25:20,200 --> 01:25:24,160 Speaker 2: a coach, and that would be moderately important. And the 1742 01:25:24,240 --> 01:25:25,840 Speaker 2: other coach has been paid a lot of money not 1743 01:25:25,960 --> 01:25:28,360 Speaker 2: to coach, and they got rid of him and wrote 1744 01:25:28,400 --> 01:25:30,600 Speaker 2: him a check before they worked out what they were 1745 01:25:30,640 --> 01:25:32,040 Speaker 2: going to do next. And what they're going to do 1746 01:25:32,120 --> 01:25:35,160 Speaker 2: next doesn't appear to be happening at any sort of pace. 1747 01:25:36,160 --> 01:25:38,439 Speaker 2: And indeed, not only that job's not being filled at 1748 01:25:38,439 --> 01:25:40,639 Speaker 2: any sort of pace, we find out yesterday from mister 1749 01:25:40,720 --> 01:25:42,800 Speaker 2: Kirk that the CEO's job's not being filled in any 1750 01:25:42,800 --> 01:25:46,280 Speaker 2: sort of pace either. So if I'm mister Lancaster fill 1751 01:25:46,360 --> 01:25:50,320 Speaker 2: in CEO, am I thinking how come they haven't appointed 1752 01:25:50,400 --> 01:25:52,000 Speaker 2: me yet? Am I thinking? 1753 01:25:52,680 --> 01:25:52,840 Speaker 21: Here? 1754 01:25:52,880 --> 01:25:54,960 Speaker 2: Well, I'm so. I mean, he started yesterday, went back 1755 01:25:55,000 --> 01:25:56,720 Speaker 2: into the office Monday, and he's thinking, well, hold on, 1756 01:25:56,920 --> 01:25:59,760 Speaker 2: is the note. Is there an email from David saying, well, congratulations, 1757 01:25:59,800 --> 01:26:01,880 Speaker 2: you've the job. And the longer that goes on, do 1758 01:26:02,000 --> 01:26:04,240 Speaker 2: I think they're looking for somebody else? And then if 1759 01:26:04,280 --> 01:26:06,160 Speaker 2: they're looking for somebody else, who is that somebody else? 1760 01:26:06,200 --> 01:26:08,320 Speaker 2: And how long does a job take to phill Once 1761 01:26:08,400 --> 01:26:10,040 Speaker 2: you go to the world and go hey, we're looking 1762 01:26:10,080 --> 01:26:13,160 Speaker 2: for a CEO or a coach, how long does it 1763 01:26:13,280 --> 01:26:14,880 Speaker 2: actually take to Phill or am. 1764 01:26:14,840 --> 01:26:16,679 Speaker 18: I it's tarting to feel a bit like what happens 1765 01:26:16,720 --> 01:26:19,560 Speaker 18: after one of those MMP elections that you hear about. 1766 01:26:19,479 --> 01:26:22,040 Speaker 2: Like negotiations in the back room. Had they hired a 1767 01:26:22,120 --> 01:26:24,519 Speaker 2: room at the quarters and suddenly we're looking for an 1768 01:26:24,520 --> 01:26:27,360 Speaker 2: old bmw X five to turn up in, some old 1769 01:26:27,360 --> 01:26:29,120 Speaker 2: bloke to stumble out and fall out the door and 1770 01:26:32,200 --> 01:26:35,679 Speaker 2: let you know, like that five minutes away from nine. 1771 01:26:36,320 --> 01:26:40,880 Speaker 12: Trending now with msware House the Real House of Frequences. 1772 01:26:41,040 --> 01:26:43,040 Speaker 2: Robert Devard, as I mentioned earlier on are dead at 1773 01:26:43,080 --> 01:26:46,560 Speaker 2: the age of ninety five? Boo Radley to kill a mockingbird? 1774 01:26:46,640 --> 01:26:48,720 Speaker 2: That takes you back to sixty two, Frank Boons on 1775 01:26:48,840 --> 01:26:52,840 Speaker 2: Mash didn't I mean there was plenty and at least 1776 01:26:52,840 --> 01:26:55,320 Speaker 2: a couple of Frank Boons is on Mash two. Godfather Films, 1777 01:26:55,360 --> 01:26:58,679 Speaker 2: of course, nominated seven times for an Oscar one, once 1778 01:26:58,920 --> 01:27:02,519 Speaker 2: in Tender Mercies. It was the country music one where 1779 01:27:02,520 --> 01:27:05,200 Speaker 2: he was trying to overcome alcoholism. Last nomination was twenty 1780 01:27:05,280 --> 01:27:08,680 Speaker 2: fifteen The Judge with Robert Downey Junior. At the time 1781 01:27:08,760 --> 01:27:12,160 Speaker 2: he was the oldest Malector even nominated. But perhaps his 1782 01:27:12,320 --> 01:27:16,080 Speaker 2: most famous line came in Apocalypse. 1783 01:27:16,160 --> 01:27:17,080 Speaker 10: Now do smell that. 1784 01:27:19,160 --> 01:27:22,880 Speaker 24: Eight one son? Not the acid of world smells like that. 1785 01:27:28,240 --> 01:27:30,040 Speaker 24: I love the spell and pape palm in the morning. 1786 01:27:31,040 --> 01:27:32,439 Speaker 24: Do you know what time we had a help on 1787 01:27:33,200 --> 01:27:35,439 Speaker 24: for twelve hours when it was all alive, walked up. 1788 01:27:37,400 --> 01:27:43,280 Speaker 24: We didn't find one on that one stinking thing body. Well, 1789 01:27:43,680 --> 01:27:46,959 Speaker 24: you know that gasoline smelled all hell. 1790 01:27:48,840 --> 01:28:02,120 Speaker 2: Smelled like victory. There's a certain age they where are 1791 01:28:02,120 --> 01:28:02,799 Speaker 2: all the good movies? 1792 01:28:03,000 --> 01:28:03,120 Speaker 10: Hey? 1793 01:28:03,280 --> 01:28:05,840 Speaker 2: Where are the greats? Where are the great lines from 1794 01:28:05,920 --> 01:28:12,160 Speaker 2: the great movies? And de Niro or deval as the greatest? 1795 01:28:13,120 --> 01:28:16,519 Speaker 2: De Niro or daval And don't text me and go. 1796 01:28:16,840 --> 01:28:19,519 Speaker 2: Danier is just delivery who lives in the Upper east Side. 1797 01:28:19,640 --> 01:28:24,479 Speaker 2: Ne Way, don't do that. He's a great actor. Robert 1798 01:28:24,520 --> 01:28:26,760 Speaker 2: Duval at the age of ninety five and ninety five, 1799 01:28:26,840 --> 01:28:29,200 Speaker 2: you can't argue with it anything I'm personally for me. 1800 01:28:29,280 --> 01:28:33,640 Speaker 2: Anything past ninety I'm feeling like Luve's pretty good. That 1801 01:28:33,840 --> 01:28:35,080 Speaker 2: is us for the day back the middle of the 1802 01:28:35,120 --> 01:28:37,360 Speaker 2: week already, just like that, six am Wednesday, See you 1803 01:28:37,439 --> 01:28:38,400 Speaker 2: Think Happy Days. 1804 01:28:43,560 --> 01:28:46,439 Speaker 1: For more from the mic Asking Breakfast, listen live to 1805 01:28:46,560 --> 01:28:49,639 Speaker 1: news talks it'd be from six am weekdays, or follow 1806 01:28:49,720 --> 01:28:51,240 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio.