1 00:00:01,920 --> 00:00:04,800 Speaker 1: Joe Parker in the studio, Shall we go twelve or 2 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:07,360 Speaker 1: fifteen rounds? I I I reckon looking forward to the 3 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:09,200 Speaker 1: catch up shortly. A bit of banks around the motor 4 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:11,480 Speaker 1: industry though at the moment, as the government goes about 5 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:14,360 Speaker 1: reviewing emission standards for cars imported into the country, but 6 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:17,440 Speaker 1: they're only asking the car industry for feedback. Ev importers 7 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 1: not happy about not being included in this. There is 8 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:24,239 Speaker 1: a transparency concern. Apparently the Transport Minister sime and Brown 9 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 1: is with us very good morning to you, Good morning. 10 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 1: The line that is being touted this morning, it is 11 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 1: not keen you to publicize the changes or consult on 12 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 1: them very widely. The secretive consultation has ev importers upper arms, 13 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 1: with Tesla saying the government only went to its hand 14 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 1: picked allies for feedback. 15 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 2: You say what, well, I mean TESLA should join the 16 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 2: Motor Industry Association or the Motor Trade Association or one 17 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 2: of the other associations we've consulted with. We're consulting with 18 00:00:56,400 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 2: the car industry around these standards because the government legislated 19 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 2: them in a way which ultimately would mean our standards 20 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 2: would become stricter than the European Union, and that would 21 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:13,679 Speaker 2: impose significant costs on New Zealanders trying to purchase cars. 22 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:15,840 Speaker 2: And so we're looking at the standards. We want to 23 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:18,120 Speaker 2: reduce emissions from imported vehicles, but we also want to 24 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 2: do it in a way which is actually affordable for 25 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:22,960 Speaker 2: New Zealanders, rather than posing thousands of dollars of costs 26 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 2: and actually having a standard which means we have to 27 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 2: find cars which are cleaner than what have been produced 28 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:30,480 Speaker 2: in the European Union. By the way, we don't make 29 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 2: cars here in New Zealand, no. 30 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 1: We do not. So what happens is when I import cars, 31 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:36,479 Speaker 1: I can bring in a Lambeau V ten, but they've 32 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 1: got to balance it out with something that doesn't burn 33 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 1: the planet just as much. That's where we're at. 34 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 2: Effectively, that's how the standard. Effectively, that's how the standard works. 35 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 2: Most countries have these emissions or fuel economy standards. They're 36 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 2: designed to over time encourage importers to bring in a 37 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 2: cleaner mix of vehicles. We want to make sure that 38 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 2: that is done in a way which is affordable for 39 00:01:57,480 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 2: New Zealanders. Allows New Zealanders to get the range of 40 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 2: vehicles which are needed and it doesn't impose thousands of 41 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 2: dollars of additional costs or New Zealand as unnecessarily. Look, 42 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:08,800 Speaker 2: we're reviewing that. The Cabinet hasn't made any decisions, but 43 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:12,639 Speaker 2: we have put legislation in department to give the government 44 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:18,399 Speaker 2: minister that's me, the ability to amend the standard via 45 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 2: regulation rather than it being baked into law as it 46 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 2: currently is the next couple of years. 47 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 1: If you tried to flip it under agency, you couldn't 48 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 1: get there. So this will solve that problem presumably once 49 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:29,119 Speaker 1: and for all. Is this once again too much power 50 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 1: in the minister's hands you decide, as opposed to the 51 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 1: Parliament or the people or whatever. 52 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 2: No, I think it's actually better that this is an 53 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:37,919 Speaker 2: issue that is resolved by a minister rather than having 54 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 2: baked into law, because ultimately you want the standard to 55 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:43,240 Speaker 2: be flexible, You want it to be able to respond 56 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 2: to market conditions. We don't want this to be imposing 57 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 2: thousands of dollars of costs in New Zealand as trying 58 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 2: to purchase a vehicle. I mean some of the data 59 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 2: we've been seeing that in a couple of years time 60 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 2: it will add you know, potentially thousands of dollars to 61 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 2: the cost of every carving inputs. So we want to 62 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:02,080 Speaker 2: make sure it's affordable for New Yelanders and that we 63 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:04,079 Speaker 2: get the emissions reduction when you did at. 64 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:06,359 Speaker 1: The same time, Okay, when do we get there? 65 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 2: The review? The reviews underweg At the moment, Capital hasn't 66 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 2: made any decisions yet, but the legislation is currently before 67 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:18,520 Speaker 2: the House which will enable us to be able to 68 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 2: make those changes once the review. 69 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:24,360 Speaker 1: Is this year. This year, okay, because in asking the 70 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 1: car industry, I know for a fact they don't like it, 71 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 1: so they'll be saying, I mean, this is this is 72 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 1: why I'm not in politics, because I don't have the 73 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 1: patience for it. You go to the car industry, the 74 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:33,240 Speaker 1: car I know what the car industry are going to 75 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 1: tell you. They hate it because Labour Party didn't understand 76 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 1: emissions and cars or anything to do with them. So 77 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 1: you'll fix it. Why don't you just get on and 78 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 1: do it well. 79 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 2: We want to make sure that a stand which is 80 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 2: achieves what we need to achieve them both in the 81 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 2: best field to talk to us understand what are the 82 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 2: cars being manufactured globally? We don't manifact the cars in 83 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 2: New Zealand and the best people to talk to, talk 84 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 2: to and find out that data and that evidence, to 85 00:03:56,720 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 2: the people who import vehicles, who actually manufacture vehicles, and 86 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 2: that's executive what we're doing. We want to make sure 87 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 2: that the standard is achievable, reduces emissions but also provides 88 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 2: that mix of vehicles that New Zealanders need. That's exactly 89 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 2: what we're doing. 90 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 1: Okay, good on, you go well with it, so assuming 91 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 1: and Brown, who's the Transport Minister. 92 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 2: For more from the My Asking Breakfast, listen live to 93 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:18,839 Speaker 2: news talks. It'd be from six am weekdays, or follow 94 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 2: the podcast on iHeartRadio.