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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack Taine podcast

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Speaker 1: from News Talks ed B. Start your weekend off in style.

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Speaker 1: Saturday Mornings with Jack Taine and bpuret dot co dot

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Speaker 2: In New Zealand. Good morning and welcome to News Dogs EDB.

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Speaker 2: Jack time with you this Saturday morning. It is so

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Speaker 2: good to be with you for a Saturday. As we

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Speaker 2: get very much into school holiday mode, we've got to

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Speaker 2: chalk a show for you today. So our feature interview

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Speaker 2: right after ten o'clock is going to be best selling

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Speaker 2: children's Authorbert Muchermore. He is like incredibly prolific, has written

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Speaker 2: all sorts of wonderful books, won all sorts of incredible

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Speaker 2: awards for his writing. He's got a brand new series

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Speaker 2: that bases itself on Robin Hood, but it's not robin

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Speaker 2: Hood as you know him. It's robin Hood set in

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Speaker 2: a modern era. So Robert muchamore is going to join

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Speaker 2: us up at ten o'clock to tell us about that.

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Speaker 2: Before ten, if you look for something to do with

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Speaker 2: the kids, I don't know this weekend or maybe in

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Speaker 2: about five or six days time, when everyone's starting to

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Speaker 2: get cabin fever. We have the recipe for you, some

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Speaker 2: really tasty simple school holiday baking. And at seventy one,

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Speaker 2: would you believe he's still going and he's still got it.

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Speaker 2: Jackie Chan is back with the latest Karate Kids film,

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Speaker 2: so I'll give you a bit of information on that

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Speaker 2: very shortly. Right now, it is eight minutes past nine,

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Speaker 2: jack team eighty two million dollars as we go to

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Speaker 2: here this morning. That is a rough estimate for the

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Speaker 2: amount of cash that's going up in smoke as Jeff

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Speaker 2: Bezos marries his bride at a star studdied Venetian affair.

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Speaker 2: Eighty two million, eighty two thousand, thousand, And I thought

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Speaker 2: my wedding was an expensive affair. Everything's relative, of course,

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Speaker 2: everything's relative. I mean, eighty two million dollars represents just

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Speaker 2: a fraction of the total wealth of the world's third

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Speaker 2: of his three hundred billion dollar estimated wealth, I put

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Speaker 2: Jeff Bezos's finances into a scale that I can better understand.

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Speaker 2: So get this, If every Jeff Bezos dollar was one second, okay,

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Speaker 2: hour is what's three thousand, six hundred dollars. Depleting Jeff

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Speaker 2: Bezos's wealth would take more than eleven thousand years. It

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Speaker 2: would be the year thirteen thousand that we finally got

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Speaker 2: to the end of things. Now, look, you're gonna maybe

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Speaker 2: think that I have a particular thing for Jeff Bezos,

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Speaker 2: I honestly don't. There's nothing personal. You know, I was

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Speaker 2: one of those who was bagging his fiance's spaceflight a

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Speaker 2: few weeks ago, But I swear it is nothing personal.

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Speaker 2: It would I would just be so I would be

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Speaker 2: so embarrassed to be spending that much money to get

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Speaker 2: married in a place where it would appear a reasonable

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Speaker 2: number of locals don't want me. Yeah, it's funny. I've

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Speaker 2: spent like enough time in news and in media to

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Speaker 2: know that it's hard to properly gauge these things from

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Speaker 2: the outside. Right, So, protesters say that Jeff Bezos has

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Speaker 2: bought half of their city and that his bash is

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Speaker 2: an obscene example of money trumping every other concern. But

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Speaker 2: the local maya says, anyone blocking up the canals in

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Speaker 2: protest or hanging out with banners and signs represents just

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Speaker 2: a tiny, tiny minority of Venetians, and actually the vast

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Speaker 2: majority of locals are happy to welcome Jeff Bezos, his

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Speaker 2: big Bucks and his Blockbuster mates. Consumption in these European

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Speaker 2: hotspots is clearly becoming a greater saw point for those

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Speaker 2: around and squirting visitors with water guns to protest the

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Speaker 2: whether it's Italy or Spain or Portugal. Qualities that made

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Speaker 2: cheap flights and mass tourism age. Would you still go?

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Speaker 2: I can confess to having visited both Venice and Barcelona

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Speaker 2: during backpacking trips I don't know, fifteen odd years ago,

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Speaker 2: Ninety two is the text number if you want to

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Speaker 2: kick off this evening. To help you with us very shortly,

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Speaker 2: Kevin Milner's in next though. It is thirteen minutes past nine.

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Speaker 2: It's Saturday morning, the first Saturday morning of the school holidays.

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Speaker 2: I'm Jack Tam and this is Newstalks EDB.

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Speaker 3: A little bit of way to kick off your weekend.

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Speaker 2: Use Talks MB sixteen minutes past nine on News Talks HEADB. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I don't know. Maybe I'm just miserable. Maybe it is

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Speaker 2: an envy thing. I don't know, And this is just

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Speaker 2: Stop being so self entitled, great boint mate, says Simon

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Speaker 2: Bezos is vulgar and shallow. He could have just had

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Speaker 2: I think it's easy to say you wouldn't go back

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Speaker 3: Kevin, thank you Jack. How many millions did you say?

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Speaker 2: Eighty eighty two? Is? I think is a sort of

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he puts your fine mind into working out how

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Speaker 4: you might be able to spend that over on a wedding.

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Speaker 2: I mean you would have to buy half a city. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I don't know it is it does it? When you

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Speaker 2: I can imagine it would be quite tricky to actually

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's absolutely obscene in my opinion.

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Speaker 2: Anyway you've been you've been turning your attention to something

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Speaker 2: early this week, You've been thinking about Dead Cow Gully.

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Speaker 4: I've always wanted to compete in the backyard ultramarathon at

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Speaker 4: Dead Cow Gully, eleven k north of Nanango in Queensland.

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Speaker 5: You may have heard of it.

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Speaker 4: It's a last man standing race with no finish line.

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Speaker 4: Runners must complete a six point seven killing me to

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Speaker 4: field of two hundred and sixty three runners set off

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Speaker 4: But after completing one hundred and eighteen loops six point

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Speaker 4: the world record. They say, don't they, Jack, And coming

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Speaker 4: second is worse than coming last? Surely that can't be

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Speaker 4: I mustn't miss next year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well look there's no bit of time Kevin, surely

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Speaker 3: It right now.

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Speaker 4: I think there's a senior event actually, which seems extraordinary.

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Speaker 2: It is just remarkable, isn't it what our species is

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Speaker 2: to think the distance from Auckland to Wellington. That is

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Speaker 2: It reminds me every year in New York they have

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Speaker 2: the same thing. But it's not six point seven kilometers long.

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Speaker 2: Tell you what we've divided opinion this morning. One word

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Speaker 2: Warrior is Broncos Brisbane this evening five pm kickoff time.

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Speaker 2: Warriors going to turn things round off the back of

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Speaker 7: Always love watching the Bronco I don't know if you

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Speaker 3: Should be number one.

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Speaker 7: An entertaining game and the Warrior is a big, big

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Speaker 2: Just before we let you go, Lawrence Pithy, had you

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 2: He hangs out at the Top of the South, the

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Speaker 3: But when hope is lost and I come on, don't

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Speaker 12: a little bit of a break from music after struggling

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Speaker 12: with his tourette syndrome and mental health for a wee while.

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Speaker 2: So he released that yesterday. Tell you what bad day

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Speaker 2: for new music yesterday? Lewis Capaldi's latest single, and of

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Speaker 2: course Lord issued Virgin, her latest album in full, in total.

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Speaker 2: So we're gonna make sure we carve out a bit

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Speaker 2: of time on the show today so we can listen

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Speaker 2: to Lord's new album. I do know most of most

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Speaker 2: of the critics so far seemed to be really complimentary.

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Speaker 2: She did a hell of a job promoting it as well,

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Speaker 2: So we're going to make sure we have a bit

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Speaker 2: of a listening before midday today. Right now, though, time

447
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Speaker 2: to get your film picks for this weekend. Francesca rud Can,

448
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Speaker 2: our movie reviewer, is here with us this morning. Good morning,

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Speaker 2: good morning. Do you know what when I saw the

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Speaker 2: trailer for the latest Karate Kid film, I was like,

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Speaker 2: for goodness sake, I haven't thought about Jackie Chan for

452
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Speaker 2: about ten years, which is not to say like I

453
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Speaker 2: don't love Jackie Chan and love a bit of Jackie

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Speaker 2: Chan in my life, but just feels like, for a

455
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Speaker 2: whilely he was doing so many films and then he's

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Speaker 2: kind of step back for a bit. I'm not crazy,

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Speaker 2: am I No?

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Speaker 6: But I think also a lot of people we think

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Speaker 6: to themselves, gosh, I haven't thought about Karate Kids since

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Speaker 6: nineteen eighty four when the first song was released. It

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Speaker 6: is still going, is one?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Is this the sex? Okay, let's have a little bit

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Speaker 2: of a listen. This is karate Kid legends.

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Speaker 3: You have a foundation of kung fu.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna build upon that with kate.

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Speaker 3: Ancient way.

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Speaker 2: Miagi way, oh good.

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Speaker 3: Zenze la Russo.

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Speaker 2: Let's make a karate kid. Okay, that's Karate Kid legions.

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Speaker 2: Tell us about it, frenzy.

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Speaker 6: Ski Okay, So school holidays are here, hence we have

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Speaker 6: a Karate kid in legions. I should say Karate Kid

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Speaker 6: legions in cinemas. I known recently that these films because

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Speaker 6: I can't remember this for it was a while ago,

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Speaker 6: but I was reminded recently that these films began kind

477
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Speaker 6: of as a teen Rocky Rip off because the first

478
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Speaker 6: original film was directed by the same director of Rocky

479
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Speaker 6: and actually the sort of the same kind of underdog story,

480
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Speaker 6: and all the films have had a very similar premise.

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Speaker 6: You take a main character who moves to a new place.

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Speaker 6: They meet a lovely local girl and a quite smitten

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Speaker 6: by her. They get harassed by a bully. They then

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Speaker 6: get taken under the wing of a mentor and taught

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Speaker 6: karate or kung fu, and they then have a fight

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Speaker 6: and at the end of it, we've all learned lots

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Speaker 6: of life lessons and things like that.

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Speaker 2: And really we just do you suggest as a formula

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Speaker 2: for these films.

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Speaker 5: So that's the formula.

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Speaker 6: But it works right because it's there that the young

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Speaker 6: guy Ben Wang, who plays Leefong, who was a new

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Speaker 6: character who's in this particular film, he's great and he's

494
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Speaker 6: extremely good at his fighting. The fighting in the film

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Speaker 6: was really fantastic and very exciting, and he has a

496
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Speaker 6: very similar story. He's moved from Beijing to New York

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Speaker 6: with his mother, who is a doctor, and he's struggling

498
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Speaker 6: to fit in and he falls for a local girl

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Speaker 6: at the little pizzeria. He starts teaching her. Father he

500
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Speaker 6: starts training her father and boxing, and then he gets

501
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Speaker 6: taken under a wing by you know, mister hand. Jackie

502
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Speaker 6: Chan comes to Beijing to our backs, So the story

503
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Speaker 6: is really similar in a way. I feel like they're

504
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Speaker 6: trying to take all different threads of the previous films

505
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Speaker 6: and even the TV series and the spin off Cobra

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Speaker 6: Kai I think it's called or They're trying to bring

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Speaker 6: everything into this film. So there's it's very there's lots

508
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Speaker 6: of these sort of even though new characters, very recognizable

509
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Speaker 6: moments and tying up loose sends and things. It's almost

510
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Speaker 6: a bit much. There's just almost a few too many

511
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Speaker 6: subplots and stories going on, and they're trying to sort

512
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Speaker 6: of throw a little bit much at you when you

513
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Speaker 6: will know how it's kind of gonna unfold anyway. Anyway,

514
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Speaker 6: it's good fun. I think it's going to be great

515
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Speaker 6: family entertainment. I love family entertain meant that is real action,

516
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Speaker 6: you know, Like for a while there, all our all

517
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Speaker 6: the family films were animated, and we do and look

518
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Speaker 6: the beautiful animated films. I don't have a problem with that,

519
00:27:16,973 --> 00:27:19,653
Speaker 6: but I also think that we relate so much more

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Speaker 6: to a real person and a real character, and I

521
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Speaker 6: like seeing family oriented films, you know, done in sort

522
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Speaker 6: of real action. So yeah, no, it's it's good fun.

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Speaker 6: You know what you're going to get. He's probably a

524
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Speaker 6: little bit too much of it all here. I wouldn't

525
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Speaker 6: mind if they just streamlined it all a little, but

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Speaker 6: you know, good quality kids entertainment, well, you know, tween

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Speaker 6: teenage entertainment.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, a couple of hours, but during the school holidays. Yeah, okay,

529
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Speaker 2: all right, so it's Karate Kid legiond So he's seventy one,

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Speaker 2: Jackie Chan still a good neck, isn't he? My goodness, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I love him.

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Speaker 6: He's just he just manages that beautiful balance of comedy

533
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Speaker 6: and action and everything else. He just brings heart to

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Speaker 6: everything he does.

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Speaker 2: He does, yeah, he really does. All right. So that's

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Speaker 2: showing in cinemas right now, correct, kids Legends, just in

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Speaker 2: time for the school holidays. Next up, a film I'm

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Speaker 2: very excited to see. This is if one the movie.

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Speaker 13: Some people look at Sonny Hayes, this is a guy

540
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Speaker 13: who listen to me then a gambling junkie who missed

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Speaker 13: his shot.

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Speaker 3: But this thing never was but I see possibility.

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Speaker 2: Okay, that is IF One, the movie starring Brad Pitt,

544
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Speaker 2: of course, and it's sort of yeah, it's really that

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Speaker 2: the apex of IF One's giant global push at the moment,

546
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Speaker 2: just when you thought there couldn't be more IF One,

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Speaker 2: there's more if One.

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Speaker 6: No, you're absolutely right. And Brad Pitt has been wanting

549
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Speaker 6: to make a racing film for many years, decades even

550
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Speaker 6: and Formula One we're really keen to make one too.

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Speaker 6: And the collaboration that they have had out the making

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Speaker 6: of this film does present us with an incredibly authentic experience.

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Speaker 6: So they had access to the twenty twenty four season,

554
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Speaker 6: they were able to set they were able to set

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Speaker 6: up on the paddock, they were able to be in

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Speaker 6: the pit Lane f one when went out of their

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Speaker 6: way to welcome this film crew into their environment, and

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Speaker 6: it shows. So you feel like you're there, You feel

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Speaker 6: like you're in it. You feel like the races that

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Speaker 6: Brad Patton, his fellow teammate played by Damson Idris, you

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Speaker 6: feel like they are on the race course. And then

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Speaker 6: of course, what director Joseph Kazinski does, who also did

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Speaker 6: Top Gun Maverick, he puts his actors in the cars,

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Speaker 6: so they first learnt to drive three cars. Then they

565
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Speaker 6: moved them up to F two cars. They made the

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Speaker 6: F two cars look like F one cars, and then

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Speaker 6: he films them driving these cars. So they have gone

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Speaker 6: out of their way to make this feel like as

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Speaker 6: an authentic IF one experience as they possibly can, and

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Speaker 6: they do a great job on the big screen, Jack,

571
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Speaker 6: go and say this on the biggest screen you can.

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Speaker 6: It deserves to be seen like that. It is really thrilling,

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Speaker 6: like they have done an excellent job where they let

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Speaker 6: themselves down a little bit with this film, as they've

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Speaker 6: just kind of the script is kind of just a

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Speaker 6: bit mass, to be honest with you, when when you

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Speaker 6: take away, when you take away this glorious cinematography and

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Speaker 6: the thunderous soundtrack and the great you know, sort of

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Speaker 6: eventive camera angles, and you take away the visuals of

580
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Speaker 6: it and things, actually you're left with quite a predictable

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Speaker 6: underdog story about the old you know, the older has

582
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Speaker 6: been who comes into a team no one's got any

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Speaker 6: faith in them, but then they use their experience and

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Speaker 6: their wisdom to kind of pull the team together and

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Speaker 6: you know, and just you know, and overcomes the differences

586
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Speaker 6: with this fellow young driver and the two of them

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Speaker 6: get on and off we go and you know, conquer

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Speaker 6: the world. So, to be honest with you, the story

589
00:31:04,213 --> 00:31:08,093
Speaker 6: is actually a pretty typical underdogs story that we see

590
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Speaker 6: all the time. And look, Brad Pitt, he can act.

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Speaker 6: He's absolutely charming, he's got all the cool swagger, and

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Speaker 6: he is a list in this He is a superstar

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Speaker 6: in this film. He really sort of holds it together.

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Speaker 6: But actually he deserves more than some of the cheesy

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Speaker 6: lines he gets. We don't really get to know him

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Speaker 6: as a character. Both Himen and Dress's characters are very

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Speaker 6: two dimensional, and so a little part of me was

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Speaker 6: a little let down there. It is two hours and

599
00:31:35,093 --> 00:31:38,693
Speaker 6: thirty six minutes long, Jack, So just monitor your beverages

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Speaker 6: when you go into this film, and you probably do

601
00:31:42,173 --> 00:31:44,693
Speaker 6: need to be a little bit interested in Formula one

602
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Speaker 6: because there is quite a lot of driving to get through, right,

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Speaker 6: But go see it on the big screen. It's worth it.

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Speaker 6: It's a thrill. It's fun, not perfect, but still a

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00:31:53,093 --> 00:31:53,653
Speaker 6: good time.

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Speaker 7: Very good.

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Speaker 2: Okay, that's if Won the movie that's showing in cinemas.

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Speaker 2: So too is Karate Kid Legends. Both of those will

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Speaker 2: be up on the news talks. He'd be website It's

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Speaker 2: fourteen to.

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Speaker 1: Ten Saturday mornings with Jack Dae keeping the conversation going

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Speaker 1: through the weekend with bepure dot cots here for high

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Speaker 1: quality supplements use talks.

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Speaker 4: They'd be.

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Speaker 2: On news talks. They'd be The school holidays are upon us,

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Speaker 2: and if the last thirty six hours or so has

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Speaker 2: been anything to go by, you probably need to have

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Speaker 2: some rainy day options up your sleeve. Good news, Nicky

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Speaker 2: Wicks is here this morning with a recipe that should

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Speaker 2: sort you out for a little bit morning.

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Speaker 14: Now, Yeah, we're really going to need a little bit

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Speaker 14: of indoor activity up with these school holidays, at least

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Speaker 14: the first week. By the look of it.

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Speaker 12: I think so.

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Speaker 13: I think so.

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Speaker 2: It's always good to have one of these up your sleeve.

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Speaker 2: And this is like a fantastic, delicious little number for

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00:32:45,933 --> 00:32:47,293
Speaker 2: the kids to get their hands dirty.

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Speaker 15: Look it really as jam and marmalade drops.

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Speaker 16: I love these.

631
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Speaker 14: They're a really old recipe, but they look cute and

632
00:32:54,893 --> 00:32:58,493
Speaker 14: the kids love sticking their thumbs in the dough, so

633
00:32:58,653 --> 00:33:00,973
Speaker 14: they're really fun to make, and they have this sort

634
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Speaker 14: of texture. Enslaver really of sort of a melting moment

635
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Speaker 14: or maybe a shortbread almost.

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Speaker 8: But they're so dead.

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Speaker 14: Easy that anyone can make them. So look, I think

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Speaker 14: they will. I think they'll brighten up your dreary days.

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Speaker 14: I throw sesame seeds or poppy seeds into mine just

640
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Speaker 14: because I'm new and different, and I love the texture

641
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Speaker 14: that it gives. I love a flavor that it gives.

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Speaker 15: You.

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Speaker 14: Here you go, this is what we need, and it's

644
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Speaker 14: just a one bowl wonder and you've.

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Speaker 6: Got to love that.

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Speaker 14: In the school holidays, get your oven on one hundred

647
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Speaker 14: and seventy degrees and line a tray with some baking paper.

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Speaker 14: You want to beat one hundred grams of butter that's

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Speaker 14: been softened, and that's probably your hardest job at this

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Speaker 14: stage with the cold weather. Throw it in the microwave

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Speaker 14: for a bit if you've got one, just to soften

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Speaker 14: it up. And then you want to mix that with

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Speaker 14: two thirds of a cup, which is about one hundred

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Speaker 14: grams of icing sugar, and you want to whip that

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Speaker 14: up really with a hand beating. You could do it

656
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Speaker 14: just with a spoon or wooden spoon. You want to

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Speaker 14: do it until it's nice and pale, which means that

658
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Speaker 14: it's you know that sugar will have dissolved in there.

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Speaker 14: I do it for about five minutes actually, and then

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Speaker 14: add some flowers, and I've got one cup of plain

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Speaker 14: flour and one heat tablespoon of corn flour. I would

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Speaker 14: suggest that if you use three quarters of a cup

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Speaker 14: of gluten free flour you'd get away with it as well.

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Speaker 14: Haven't tried it, but I'm pretty short.

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Speaker 5: Would work.

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Speaker 14: Mix that really well together, and adding in also three

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Speaker 14: tablespoons of either sesame or poppy seeds. You want to

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Speaker 14: roll the mixes and are the great but the kids

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Speaker 14: can do all of this. Roll the mixtures into balls

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Speaker 14: kind of little, maybe the size of a walnut, place

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Speaker 14: them on a tray, and then what you do is

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Speaker 14: you press them down with your thumb so that you

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Speaker 14: make a lovely big indent into each one. And you

674
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Speaker 14: can't go deep enough really with this. Bake for fifteen minutes,

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Speaker 14: and then take them out of the oven. And that's

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Speaker 14: the other great thing. Fifteen minutes is not too long

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Speaker 14: for kids to manage. And then you take them out

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Speaker 14: from the oven, and then you spoon a little teaspoon

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Speaker 14: of jam or adults like marmalade into the little hollows

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Speaker 14: that you've made with your thumb and throw them back

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Speaker 14: in the oven for another eight to ten minutes. Call

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Speaker 14: them on a wire rack. They're absolutely delicious. They'll harden

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Speaker 14: up if you like as they call. I want to

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Speaker 14: take these off the tray while they still warm, and

685
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Speaker 14: they'll be too crumbly.

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Speaker 8: But they're really good.

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Speaker 15: They're a good sort of way.

688
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Speaker 14: To portion control too. You know, you're you're eating of

689
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Speaker 14: sweet things, cooking. You're quite little, and you know we've

690
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Speaker 14: all gone for giant cookies these days, giant muffins, all

691
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Speaker 14: of that sort of things. So these little jam and

692
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Speaker 14: marmalade drops be really cute.

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Speaker 15: I love them.

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Speaker 8: I love them.

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Speaker 2: Good good for portion control unless you eat fourteen.

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Speaker 5: You got a camera in my house or something, Jack,

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Speaker 5: what's the story.

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Speaker 2: It's also it's such a good way to it's such

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Speaker 2: a good way to use up like jam and stuff.

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Speaker 2: You know, you end up with like six different jam containers.

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Speaker 2: You're going to run whatever.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, yeah, and marmalade because people love giving away marmalade,

703
00:35:52,733 --> 00:35:55,453
Speaker 14: but not a lot of people like marmalade. So's I

704
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Speaker 14: could really recommend the marblades for these.

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Speaker 8: So it's really lovely.

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Speaker 14: So was there a toss up today between school holiday

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Speaker 14: baking or some soups, because the weather really gives rise

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Speaker 14: to that.

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Speaker 2: That's a great option, I reckon, Yeah, perfect, Hey, thanks

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Speaker 2: so much. We will make sure that recipe for Nicky's

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Speaker 2: jam and Marma Lade drops is up on the news

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Speaker 2: talks hebs. I tell you what it actually takes all

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Speaker 2: the boxes for the kids day. So first of all, simple,

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Speaker 2: You've got the kind of the ingredients that you've probably

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Speaker 2: already got at home, maybe not one hundred grams of butter.

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00:36:23,653 --> 00:36:25,173
Speaker 2: Give them the price the better, but you know you've

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00:36:25,253 --> 00:36:27,693
Speaker 2: probably got most of those things at home. They can

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Speaker 2: get their thumb in it, and then it only takes

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Speaker 2: fifteen minutes. That's what I love about that only takes

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Speaker 2: fifteen minutes in the oven. Because if you've got needy,

721
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Speaker 2: anxious kids who want to get in and enjoy their

722
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Speaker 2: baking very quickly, this is the recipe for them. Right now,

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Speaker 2: it's eight to ten. You're Jack Tame. This is Newstalks EDB.

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Speaker 1: Giving you the inside scoop on all you need to know.

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Speaker 2: for your text. Turns out there are a couple of

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Speaker 2: Glastonbury currently underway at the moment, but also Jeff Bezos

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Speaker 2: is it? Bezos? You've got you know the guy who

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Speaker 2: found at Amazon's wedding in Venice right now, Jack, If

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Speaker 2: Jeff Bezos Bezos has a thousand guests, you got to

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Speaker 2: a short reprieve, says Kate fair Core Kate ninety two,

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Speaker 2: ninety two. If you want to send us some messages

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Speaker 2: this morning, I'm going to get going to get to

741
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Speaker 2: more of your messages after ten o'clock. As well as that,

742
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Speaker 2: we're going to be catching up with British author Robert

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Speaker 2: much More. He has written an incredible series of books

744
00:37:37,973 --> 00:37:41,293
Speaker 2: called the Cherub Series that has been translated into a

745
00:37:41,333 --> 00:37:44,013
Speaker 2: gazillion languages around the world, and his latest series focus

746
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Speaker 2: is on a modern version of Robin Hood, so he's

747
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Speaker 2: going to tell us about his book Fury, Bayer and

748
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Speaker 2: Frost when he joins us after ten. Honestly, if you've

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Speaker 2: got young kids who love reading or just getting into reading,

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Speaker 2: this could be a perfect option for them over the

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Speaker 2: school holidays and before eleven o'clock. We're in the garden,

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Speaker 2: except we're not. We're actually in the indoor garden. Given

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Speaker 2: everywhere as either being blown away or completely drowned at

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Speaker 2: the moment, our man in the garden has some tips

755
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Speaker 2: of finding the perfect spot for your indoor plants. News

756
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Speaker 2: is next, though, will take you up to the ten

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Speaker 2: o'clock news with a bit of dua lipa. She's on

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Speaker 2: stage at Blastombury right now. It's almost ten o'clock. I'm

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Speaker 2: Jack Kaye and this is newsab you slight, I need you?

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Speaker 3: Oh no, no.

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Speaker 1: You A cracking way to start your Saturday. Saturday mornings

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Speaker 2: More but in a good morning You're with Jack taimon

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Speaker 2: Us to executive be through the mid day to day.

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Speaker 2: Robert Much and more has written some of the best

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Speaker 2: books that young readers can get their hands on. His

768
00:39:40,613 --> 00:39:44,413
Speaker 2: Shaub series is credited with shaking up young adult literature,

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00:39:44,653 --> 00:39:48,653
Speaker 2: using realistic language and challenging traditional portrayals of heroes, and

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00:39:48,773 --> 00:39:53,933
Speaker 2: his themes are kind of unconventionally sophisticated. His latest book

771
00:39:54,773 --> 00:40:00,373
Speaker 2: tackles concepts like corruption, protection, rackets, and late stage capitalist failure,

772
00:40:00,533 --> 00:40:03,813
Speaker 2: so big stuff for young readers, of course. His latest

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Speaker 2: read is a twist on the classic tale of rob

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Speaker 2: and Hood. It's in his Fury Fire and Frost series,

775
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Speaker 2: so it kind of looks whether or not Robin lived

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Speaker 2: today in today's world and was a twelve year old boy,

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Speaker 2: how he would deal with some of the challenges he encountered.

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Speaker 2: Robert Muchamore is here with us this morning, gild A,

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Speaker 2: good morning.

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Speaker 3: Good morning. It's great to be here. You know what.

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Speaker 2: We speak to some prolific authors from time to time

782
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Speaker 2: on this program. But Fury Fire and Frost is the

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Speaker 2: ninth book in your Robin Hood series, and you are

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Speaker 2: churning them out. So how much time do you spend

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Speaker 2: actually not writing?

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Speaker 17: The funny thing is is I do write reasonably quickly.

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Speaker 17: I usually write a book in six to eight weeks

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Speaker 17: once it's all planned and worked out. And I think

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Speaker 17: it's really important when you work for kids, when you

790
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Speaker 17: write for children, because if I say to an adult,

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Speaker 17: you know, my next book's out in a year, that's okay.

792
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Speaker 17: If I say to a kid, you know, my book's

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Speaker 17: out in three months, it's like, oh god, that's such

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Speaker 17: a long time. So I think it's really important for

795
00:41:00,493 --> 00:41:03,333
Speaker 17: children's authors to kind of keep feeding them and keep

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Speaker 17: kids interested because they grow up and they change so fast.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there must be sort of adds a tricky dynamic, though,

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00:41:09,813 --> 00:41:11,813
Speaker 2: doesn't it. It means you really have to have everything

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Speaker 2: sorted quite early in the process if you're trying to

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Speaker 2: serve the readers whom you first kepture with your first

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Speaker 2: book in a series.

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Speaker 17: Yeah, that's right, that's absolutely right.

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Speaker 2: So tell us about the decision to go with a

804
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Speaker 2: modern Robin Hood character for those of our listeners who

805
00:41:30,493 --> 00:41:32,253
Speaker 2: haven't read any of the books in the series yet,

806
00:41:32,813 --> 00:41:36,413
Speaker 2: obviously this is a modern reimagining of the famous character.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 17: So what I wanted to do was I really liked

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Speaker 17: the idea of Robinhood. I'd always been attracted to Robin

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Speaker 17: Hood's stories, but when I started researching, very often when

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Speaker 17: I'm researching or thinking about doing something now. I look

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Speaker 17: into lots of different things, but robin Hood really fascinated

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Speaker 17: me because it's this very old I mean, it was

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Speaker 17: around in the sort of fourteenth fifteenth century, as you know,

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Speaker 17: stories passed on by word of mouth, and it's progressed

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Speaker 17: and every new format that's come along, whether it's you know, poems,

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Speaker 17: whether it's early plays as a shakespe be played with

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Speaker 17: Robin Hood in. You know, it's this kind of legend

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Speaker 17: that's been around for so long and everyone gets to

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Speaker 17: interpret it in their own way. So my Robinhood lives

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Speaker 17: in a very contemporary world, and you know, the Sheriff

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Speaker 17: of Nottingham is a kind of the I guess you'd say,

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Speaker 17: a kind of Trump like populist kind of figure. And

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Speaker 17: my version of Robin Hood is a twelve thirteen year

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Speaker 17: old boy who is very much like most modern kids.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, do you to try and connect with this audience

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Speaker 2: and make him relevant to this audience? Do you have

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Speaker 2: to do things like spend a lot of time on

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Speaker 2: social media?

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Speaker 3: Do you know? It's funny.

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Speaker 17: I was chatting to a friend about this because as

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Speaker 17: I'm getting older, I must confess I do find it

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Speaker 17: a little bit harder to stay in touch with kids.

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Speaker 17: I do find that kids are more different to me

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Speaker 17: than when I first started writing for kids about twenty

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Speaker 17: years ago. So you really do have to be humble

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Speaker 17: and talk to kids and listen to what they say.

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Speaker 17: And kids are quite ruthless. You know, any kid who's

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Speaker 17: a fan of my books, I'll always a reply to

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Speaker 17: any email they send me via there my website, But

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00:43:02,773 --> 00:43:05,053
Speaker 17: they're always quite ruthless. If you get something wrong, well

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00:43:05,093 --> 00:43:07,013
Speaker 17: you use a phrase that isn't it if any more?

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Speaker 17: Or something like that.

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Speaker 2: Can you can you think of an example where where

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Speaker 2: you've had one of your fans come back with some

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Speaker 2: ruthless feedback?

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Speaker 6: Do you know?

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Speaker 17: You know you've put me on the spot there? And

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Speaker 17: I can't actually think of one specific example. The one

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Speaker 17: I always like. One of my all time favorite fan

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Speaker 17: mails from a kid was he turned around to me

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00:43:25,613 --> 00:43:28,653
Speaker 17: and he said, dear mister, muchamore, your books have taken over.

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Speaker 17: Your books have taken off like wildfire since our head

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Speaker 17: master banned them from us school.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean that is a curious dynamic with at least

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Speaker 2: one of your books. But you know, it seems remarkable

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00:43:42,693 --> 00:43:44,333
Speaker 2: in this day and a that we're still kind of,

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Speaker 2: you know, considering banning books, and there can be kind

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00:43:46,653 --> 00:43:48,853
Speaker 2: of moral panic about these things. But what was the

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00:43:48,933 --> 00:43:52,813
Speaker 2: impact of the concerns that your storytelling might be having

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Speaker 2: on young impressionable minds.

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Speaker 17: I think there will always be an element of people

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Speaker 17: who because my books have realistic themes, and you know,

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Speaker 17: sometimes there's some quite nasty violence, or sometimes there's some

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Speaker 17: but very mild sexual content. To be hon It's less

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Speaker 17: so in my Robin Hood books, which raimed at slightly

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Speaker 17: younger audience. But I just think it's really important. You know,

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Speaker 17: I'm I'm competing with kids who are playing, you know,

870
00:44:17,093 --> 00:44:20,453
Speaker 17: video games, and they're watching you know, dramas on Netflix.

871
00:44:20,573 --> 00:44:24,013
Speaker 17: And the idea that children's books is this very cozy,

872
00:44:24,173 --> 00:44:26,853
Speaker 17: twee world. I think if we stick to that, we

873
00:44:27,013 --> 00:44:28,893
Speaker 17: end up in a world where it's cozy and twee

874
00:44:28,933 --> 00:44:31,093
Speaker 17: and lots of little kids read the books. But once

875
00:44:31,173 --> 00:44:33,533
Speaker 17: boys get to that kind of twelve thirteen, and girls

876
00:44:33,573 --> 00:44:35,933
Speaker 17: as well, once they get to that sort of difficult

877
00:44:35,973 --> 00:44:38,973
Speaker 17: age where they stop reading you neque content that appeals

878
00:44:39,013 --> 00:44:39,773
Speaker 17: to that age group.

879
00:44:40,053 --> 00:44:42,293
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a really good point. It's kind of a

880
00:44:43,133 --> 00:44:46,613
Speaker 2: you know, an interesting thought experiment to imagine, you know,

881
00:44:46,733 --> 00:44:49,573
Speaker 2: how an innerd Blython or someone would go publishing those

882
00:44:49,613 --> 00:44:54,933
Speaker 2: stories today in a world where all of the attention

883
00:44:55,133 --> 00:44:58,533
Speaker 2: demands on young kids, or all of the kind of

884
00:44:58,653 --> 00:45:02,973
Speaker 2: seductive digital devices that they have, you know, very often

885
00:45:03,013 --> 00:45:05,213
Speaker 2: at their fingertips are kind of calling their name. So

886
00:45:05,293 --> 00:45:07,453
Speaker 2: you really need to find a way to punch through,

887
00:45:07,573 --> 00:45:08,253
Speaker 2: that's what you're saying.

888
00:45:09,973 --> 00:45:12,373
Speaker 17: Absolutely, And I mean I do find myself, you know,

889
00:45:12,453 --> 00:45:15,573
Speaker 17: when I'm with my young niece's nephews, things like that.

890
00:45:15,733 --> 00:45:18,213
Speaker 17: You know, I do find myself. You know, I've turned

891
00:45:18,213 --> 00:45:19,773
Speaker 17: into that old man who's like, do you know how

892
00:45:19,893 --> 00:45:21,613
Speaker 17: lucky you are all the things you've got now that

893
00:45:21,693 --> 00:45:22,933
Speaker 17: I didn't have when I was a kid.

894
00:45:23,493 --> 00:45:25,573
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think we all all find that as

895
00:45:25,573 --> 00:45:27,253
Speaker 2: a bit like that at the moment. So beg to

896
00:45:27,333 --> 00:45:31,333
Speaker 2: Robin Hood. I suppose the original character appealed to people

897
00:45:31,413 --> 00:45:34,613
Speaker 2: because of his you know, sense of you know, for

898
00:45:34,733 --> 00:45:37,093
Speaker 2: what we might turn today as kind of social justice,

899
00:45:37,333 --> 00:45:40,373
Speaker 2: obviously taking from the rich to give to the poor.

900
00:45:41,053 --> 00:45:41,653
Speaker 4: How do you.

901
00:45:43,853 --> 00:45:46,693
Speaker 2: Settle upon a kind of moral framework or how do

902
00:45:46,773 --> 00:45:49,253
Speaker 2: you make him appealing in the same kind of way

903
00:45:49,573 --> 00:45:51,893
Speaker 2: to a young audience who might not be so easily

904
00:45:51,973 --> 00:45:55,693
Speaker 2: seduced by, you know that the morals that defined him

905
00:45:55,973 --> 00:45:57,053
Speaker 2: three or one hundred years ago.

906
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Speaker 17: I think, I think the interesting thing about young people

907
00:46:03,293 --> 00:46:06,253
Speaker 17: actually is they because you know, because very often young

908
00:46:06,413 --> 00:46:08,813
Speaker 17: people they're in positions of weakness. You know, everyone did

909
00:46:08,893 --> 00:46:10,973
Speaker 17: takes to them. They mostly have to do what they're told.

910
00:46:11,493 --> 00:46:13,613
Speaker 17: They don't have a great deal of freedom. So I

911
00:46:13,693 --> 00:46:17,773
Speaker 17: think kids are actually incredibly sensitive to win equalities and

912
00:46:18,453 --> 00:46:21,333
Speaker 17: you know, any sense of injustice or inequality, kids are

913
00:46:21,413 --> 00:46:23,293
Speaker 17: on it like a ton of bricks. So I actually

914
00:46:23,333 --> 00:46:27,173
Speaker 17: think a Robin Hood character who's younger, actually they can

915
00:46:27,253 --> 00:46:30,293
Speaker 17: relate to that very closely because they always see injustices

916
00:46:30,333 --> 00:46:32,533
Speaker 17: in their own lives, and very often with kids, they're

917
00:46:32,573 --> 00:46:34,493
Speaker 17: pretty powerless to do anything about it.

918
00:46:35,373 --> 00:46:38,493
Speaker 2: So Roberts what I think twenty one years since The

919
00:46:38,573 --> 00:46:41,933
Speaker 2: Recruit was published, the first book and the Cherub series, Yeah, yeah,

920
00:46:42,533 --> 00:46:47,013
Speaker 2: they're remarkable. So how how has the Cherub series kind

921
00:46:47,053 --> 00:46:47,893
Speaker 2: of changed your life?

922
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Speaker 6: Oh?

923
00:46:49,813 --> 00:46:52,213
Speaker 17: I mean, I remember when I got my I wrote

924
00:46:52,213 --> 00:46:54,213
Speaker 17: the book kind of on spec, didn't have a publishing

925
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Speaker 17: dealer or anything like that. And I remember when it

926
00:46:56,413 --> 00:46:58,093
Speaker 17: first come out, I still had a full time job,

927
00:46:58,133 --> 00:46:59,853
Speaker 17: you know, I didn't get a big, fabulous advance and

928
00:46:59,933 --> 00:47:01,893
Speaker 17: quit my job or anything like that. And I remember

929
00:47:01,973 --> 00:47:03,573
Speaker 17: saying to the guys I work with, you know, it

930
00:47:03,653 --> 00:47:05,613
Speaker 17: would be really nice if I've written a book, which

931
00:47:05,653 --> 00:47:07,493
Speaker 17: is something I've always wanted to do, and if I

932
00:47:07,573 --> 00:47:10,333
Speaker 17: come out of this, you know, with enough money to

933
00:47:10,413 --> 00:47:12,213
Speaker 17: go on a nice holiday, and I've got family in

934
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Speaker 17: Australia and good friends in New Zealand. And that was

935
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Speaker 17: kind of what I was thinking. You know, if I

936
00:47:16,333 --> 00:47:18,413
Speaker 17: can get my book published with my name on the cover,

937
00:47:19,293 --> 00:47:21,133
Speaker 17: it would be a special thing in my life, something

938
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Speaker 17: I've achieved. I never envisaged, because you know, very few

939
00:47:24,973 --> 00:47:27,293
Speaker 17: authors get to the level of success that I've had,

940
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Speaker 17: and I wasn't really thinking in those terms when I

941
00:47:30,373 --> 00:47:31,333
Speaker 17: first started at all.

942
00:47:31,573 --> 00:47:34,013
Speaker 2: Yeah, it must be like, it must be such a

943
00:47:34,093 --> 00:47:36,293
Speaker 2: buzz to travel around the world to come to a

944
00:47:36,333 --> 00:47:38,053
Speaker 2: place like New Zealand. I think you see your all

945
00:47:38,133 --> 00:47:41,213
Speaker 2: time record for book signings the last time you were

946
00:47:41,253 --> 00:47:43,533
Speaker 2: here in christ it's two and a half thousand people

947
00:47:43,653 --> 00:47:46,453
Speaker 2: lining up their book sign It must have been an

948
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Speaker 2: incredible experience to see that kind of love.

949
00:47:50,293 --> 00:47:52,613
Speaker 17: Yeah, And that was funny because I did this tour.

950
00:47:52,693 --> 00:47:54,813
Speaker 17: It was a seventeen day tour. It was new I

951
00:47:54,853 --> 00:47:56,733
Speaker 17: think I was three days in New Zealand and twelve

952
00:47:56,813 --> 00:47:59,413
Speaker 17: days in Australia. And the publishers, you know, when they're

953
00:47:59,413 --> 00:48:01,933
Speaker 17: paying your airfare and they're planning your hotel there, they

954
00:48:02,053 --> 00:48:04,373
Speaker 17: want to work your hard. And I just remember that

955
00:48:04,533 --> 00:48:08,133
Speaker 17: signing and it was an amazing thing, and I did

956
00:48:08,173 --> 00:48:10,093
Speaker 17: is as I say, definitely the biggest signing I've ever

957
00:48:10,133 --> 00:48:12,213
Speaker 17: done was in news and I was just signing and

958
00:48:12,333 --> 00:48:14,373
Speaker 17: signing books and kids were turning up with five or

959
00:48:14,413 --> 00:48:16,893
Speaker 17: six books, and it was amazing that it happened. But

960
00:48:16,973 --> 00:48:19,333
Speaker 17: I must have been while it was happening. I was

961
00:48:19,493 --> 00:48:22,413
Speaker 17: just absolutely exhausted. I think it was like the tenth

962
00:48:22,533 --> 00:48:24,573
Speaker 17: Dad at all, and there were just so many people

963
00:48:24,573 --> 00:48:26,493
Speaker 17: and you're trying to be happy, and you know people

964
00:48:26,533 --> 00:48:28,053
Speaker 17: have queued up a long time to see you when

965
00:48:28,053 --> 00:48:31,013
Speaker 17: you want to make them happy. But a big book

966
00:48:31,053 --> 00:48:33,253
Speaker 17: signing like that can be absolutely exhausting.

967
00:48:33,493 --> 00:48:33,733
Speaker 15: Yeah.

968
00:48:33,893 --> 00:48:36,653
Speaker 2: I can only imitine you're going back to your publisher

969
00:48:36,653 --> 00:48:38,853
Speaker 2: and saying, I'm heavy to do the book signing, but

970
00:48:38,933 --> 00:48:40,893
Speaker 2: the next book's going to take an extra month because

971
00:48:40,893 --> 00:48:43,733
Speaker 2: I've got terrible cramp. It's all throughout my wrestler hope

972
00:48:43,853 --> 00:48:44,413
Speaker 2: I'm going to be able to.

973
00:48:46,653 --> 00:48:49,333
Speaker 17: I'm left handed, so when I signed books, I always

974
00:48:49,333 --> 00:48:51,613
Speaker 17: get ink all over my hand. I'm a proper messy

975
00:48:51,933 --> 00:48:53,373
Speaker 17: and I look at my hand at the end of

976
00:48:53,453 --> 00:48:55,893
Speaker 17: these books signers and it's just like this massive blue ink.

977
00:48:56,373 --> 00:48:57,013
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.

978
00:48:57,413 --> 00:49:00,013
Speaker 2: Do you do you learn about your audience when you

979
00:49:00,053 --> 00:49:02,173
Speaker 2: go to those live of into you know, having the

980
00:49:02,253 --> 00:49:06,333
Speaker 2: kind of the in life interactions with your with your readers,

981
00:49:06,453 --> 00:49:08,333
Speaker 2: do you learn about them in ways that you don't

982
00:49:08,613 --> 00:49:11,453
Speaker 2: with your kind of vociferous communications with them online.

983
00:49:12,653 --> 00:49:12,853
Speaker 6: Yeah.

984
00:49:13,093 --> 00:49:16,613
Speaker 17: I think it's I mean, these days it's kids message

985
00:49:16,653 --> 00:49:18,933
Speaker 17: me on Instagram and they send me your messages through

986
00:49:19,013 --> 00:49:21,533
Speaker 17: my website, and it is actually quite nice to get

987
00:49:21,613 --> 00:49:25,853
Speaker 17: that feedback and really see how you know, how they react.

988
00:49:25,933 --> 00:49:27,813
Speaker 17: And I think when kids have that degree of remoteness,

989
00:49:27,853 --> 00:49:30,133
Speaker 17: when you meet them at a book signing, they're normally

990
00:49:30,373 --> 00:49:33,693
Speaker 17: very polite. You know, they're quite excited. It's a novel experience.

991
00:49:33,733 --> 00:49:35,813
Speaker 17: I want to get their book signed. But actually when

992
00:49:35,893 --> 00:49:37,853
Speaker 17: they email you or when they've got that you know,

993
00:49:38,013 --> 00:49:40,853
Speaker 17: that degree of separation from the author, that's when they're

994
00:49:40,893 --> 00:49:42,973
Speaker 17: a bit more honest about how they really feel.

995
00:49:43,213 --> 00:49:46,133
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, that's true. Yeah, there's no kind of filter, right,

996
00:49:46,373 --> 00:49:49,493
Speaker 2: there's no mamal Day appearing over the shoulders and saying, oh,

997
00:49:49,613 --> 00:49:53,373
Speaker 2: that's not the nicest thing to say. I know, there's

998
00:49:53,373 --> 00:49:54,973
Speaker 2: been a lot of you know, there's always been kind

999
00:49:54,973 --> 00:49:57,933
Speaker 2: of a lot of talk about the possibility of The

1000
00:49:58,013 --> 00:49:59,973
Speaker 2: Recruit being turned into a film. Is that going to happen?

1001
00:50:00,013 --> 00:50:01,733
Speaker 2: Do you think sometimes soon? How would you feel about that?

1002
00:50:02,813 --> 00:50:05,333
Speaker 17: I've been telling the same joke for so long now,

1003
00:50:05,733 --> 00:50:07,693
Speaker 17: and I've been saying and for you know, the Cherub

1004
00:50:07,813 --> 00:50:10,653
Speaker 17: film has been two years away for the last twenty years,

1005
00:50:11,653 --> 00:50:15,413
Speaker 17: and the project is still very active getting I'm going

1006
00:50:15,493 --> 00:50:18,893
Speaker 17: to meetings, I'm chatting to people. Scripts have been worked on,

1007
00:50:19,373 --> 00:50:22,253
Speaker 17: there have been various actors assigned, and it always just

1008
00:50:22,373 --> 00:50:26,133
Speaker 17: goes on and on and on, and it's quite frustrated

1009
00:50:26,213 --> 00:50:29,213
Speaker 17: in a way. And I don't know. I think it

1010
00:50:29,293 --> 00:50:32,813
Speaker 17: will happen someday. I'm a natural optimist, but I'm not

1011
00:50:32,893 --> 00:50:34,293
Speaker 17: going to have I'm not going to say when.

1012
00:50:34,613 --> 00:50:37,813
Speaker 2: Yeah, and fear enough. Well, look, Robert, we are delighted

1013
00:50:38,093 --> 00:50:41,373
Speaker 2: that the ninth in your Robin Hood series, Fury, Fire

1014
00:50:41,493 --> 00:50:44,773
Speaker 2: and Frost, is being published, and we look forward to

1015
00:50:44,813 --> 00:50:46,413
Speaker 2: having you back in New Zealand and hopefully the next

1016
00:50:46,453 --> 00:50:48,373
Speaker 2: time you hear you can break that record once again.

1017
00:50:49,813 --> 00:50:52,453
Speaker 17: I certainly very much hope, so thanks for having me on.

1018
00:50:54,453 --> 00:50:56,333
Speaker 2: There is Robert Matcham Moore, his latest book in that

1019
00:50:56,453 --> 00:51:00,333
Speaker 2: Robin Hood series, Fury, Fire and Frost, trying and say

1020
00:51:00,373 --> 00:51:02,933
Speaker 2: that four Times Fast is out.

1021
00:51:03,053 --> 00:51:03,213
Speaker 4: Now.

1022
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Speaker 2: We're going to have all the details up at news talks.

1023
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Speaker 2: He'd be dot co dot Ford slash Jack. If you're

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1025
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1026
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1027
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Speaker 2: shared for the jam and marmalade drops just before the

1028
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Speaker 2: ten o'clock news is up on the website now, and

1029
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Speaker 2: we make sure that all the good stuff from our

1030
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Speaker 2: show goes up online so you can follow along at

1031
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Speaker 2: home or get our picks and recommendations throughout our mornings together.

1032
00:51:31,813 --> 00:51:34,053
Speaker 2: Now before eleven o'clock, our man in the garden is

1033
00:51:34,133 --> 00:51:37,453
Speaker 2: inside focusing on indoor plants. He doesn't do this very often.

1034
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Speaker 2: Rue Climb passed, and it turns out that it could

1035
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Speaker 2: be a great level of Actually because I'm always deeply

1036
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Speaker 2: envious of what he's able to do with his garden.

1037
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Speaker 2: It turns out when you go inside things get a

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Speaker 2: bit more complicated. I reckon. Some of his orchard attempts

1039
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1040
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Speaker 2: going to give us a few tips on getting them

1041
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Speaker 2: in the right parts of your house. If you want

1042
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1043
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Speaker 2: events of the last thirty six hours, that could be

1044
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Speaker 2: a good option, I reckon. As well as that, we're

1045
00:52:03,133 --> 00:52:05,773
Speaker 2: going to look at a very very interesting Supreme Court

1046
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Speaker 2: rule out of the United States. This is regarding one

1047
00:52:09,933 --> 00:52:13,773
Speaker 2: of the biggest pornography websites in the world. Basically, they're

1048
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Speaker 2: saying that Texas can introduce a law which would mean

1049
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Speaker 2: that everyone has to go through age verification when using

1050
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Speaker 2: this website. Of course, Texas wants to do it to

1051
00:52:22,653 --> 00:52:26,733
Speaker 2: protect children in the state, but the website owners are saying, well,

1052
00:52:26,773 --> 00:52:29,253
Speaker 2: that could put people off using the website. And imagine

1053
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Speaker 2: if some of that private information was made public anyway,

1054
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Speaker 2: there are all sorts of free speech and digital implications.

1055
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Speaker 2: So we're going to share that with you, that not

1056
00:52:37,573 --> 00:52:39,413
Speaker 2: share all of it with you, share some of the

1057
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Speaker 2: details about that decision with you and the implications for

1058
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Speaker 2: what it's going to mean for some of the biggest

1059
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Speaker 2: websites in the world very shortly. Our textbook's going to

1060
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Speaker 2: be a next up, though, if you're looking for something

1061
00:52:48,493 --> 00:52:50,893
Speaker 2: good to watch from the comfort of your couch this weekend,

1062
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Speaker 2: three screen time picks. Right now, it's twenty past ten.

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Speaker 2: ZB which means it's screen time time. Tara Ward is

1068
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Speaker 2: our screen time expert. Of course, it's this time every

1069
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Speaker 2: Saturday morning that she brings us three recommendations for shows

1070
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Speaker 2: to watch your stream at home. God to Tara, well,

1071
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Speaker 2: good morning. Okay, let's kick off with a show streaming

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Speaker 2: on neon, the keenly anticipated wolf Hall.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, wolf Hall is back. It's been ten years since

1074
00:53:34,533 --> 00:53:37,453
Speaker 16: the first season of this award winning British drama was

1075
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Speaker 16: on our screens and I'm so glad that it's back.

1076
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Speaker 16: This is the BBC historical drama based on the series

1077
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Speaker 16: of three books by Hillary Mantel about the reign of

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Speaker 16: King Henry the Eighth, and this is the final installment

1079
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Speaker 16: of the series, and it tells the story of Thomas Cromwell,

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Speaker 16: who's played by Mark Rylands. Thomas Cromwell was a blacksmith's

1081
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Speaker 16: son from Putney who rose through the royal court to

1082
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Speaker 16: become a close advisor of Henry the Eighth and with

1083
00:54:02,733 --> 00:54:04,933
Speaker 16: that role Clumb's power. But there's also a lot of

1084
00:54:05,053 --> 00:54:09,173
Speaker 16: risk and the threat of being beheaded is never far away.

1085
00:54:09,333 --> 00:54:12,813
Speaker 16: And so wolf Hall is about that political dance that

1086
00:54:13,013 --> 00:54:16,773
Speaker 16: the gameplay and the strategy and the plotting to keep

1087
00:54:16,813 --> 00:54:20,613
Speaker 16: the king happy. It's almost a psychological thriller because every step,

1088
00:54:20,813 --> 00:54:25,653
Speaker 16: every conversation is so fraught with danger and suspicious and

1089
00:54:25,733 --> 00:54:27,973
Speaker 16: a treat. And there's a couple of reasons why I

1090
00:54:28,053 --> 00:54:30,293
Speaker 16: recommend this show. The first is that it's just such

1091
00:54:30,413 --> 00:54:34,173
Speaker 16: a beautiful show to watch. Everything is rich and heavy

1092
00:54:34,253 --> 00:54:38,773
Speaker 16: with atmosphere. It's deliciously slow. Nobody says one word more

1093
00:54:38,853 --> 00:54:41,493
Speaker 16: than they have to. The other thing is that that

1094
00:54:41,613 --> 00:54:43,973
Speaker 16: you don't need to know a lot about this period

1095
00:54:44,013 --> 00:54:46,253
Speaker 16: of history to enjoy this and follow along they Pepper

1096
00:54:46,333 --> 00:54:48,773
Speaker 16: and little clues and the dialogue along the way to

1097
00:54:48,853 --> 00:54:52,493
Speaker 16: remind you of how everybody is connected and what a

1098
00:54:52,573 --> 00:54:55,573
Speaker 16: cast as well. Damian Lewis plays the King, Timothy Spaul,

1099
00:54:55,813 --> 00:54:59,773
Speaker 16: Harriet Walter, Jonathan Price. This is just Prestige TV. It's

1100
00:54:59,853 --> 00:55:02,133
Speaker 16: so good and if you miss the first season that's

1101
00:55:02,173 --> 00:55:03,413
Speaker 16: available only on as well.

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00:55:03,973 --> 00:55:06,613
Speaker 2: Ah, superb. I reckon Timody's ball might be my faavorite

1103
00:55:06,613 --> 00:55:07,173
Speaker 2: British actor.

1104
00:55:08,053 --> 00:55:10,213
Speaker 16: You think he's so good. It's so versatile, you know.

1105
00:55:10,613 --> 00:55:13,293
Speaker 2: I think it might be the boomingham accent as well.

1106
00:55:13,373 --> 00:55:14,933
Speaker 2: You just don't hear that, you know, I think that,

1107
00:55:15,173 --> 00:55:17,293
Speaker 2: like you know, back to our Vitus in ped did

1108
00:55:17,373 --> 00:55:20,693
Speaker 2: you watch the Day? Yeah, I'm turning back the hands

1109
00:55:20,733 --> 00:55:22,893
Speaker 2: of time a little bit this morning, Tar. But suppose

1110
00:55:22,933 --> 00:55:25,773
Speaker 2: so as wolf Hall in a different way. You're very good,

1111
00:55:25,813 --> 00:55:28,733
Speaker 2: so wolf Hall. Both series in our streaming on Neon

1112
00:55:29,013 --> 00:55:32,733
Speaker 2: on Apple TV plus. Tell Us About Smoke, Yeah, Smoke

1113
00:55:32,933 --> 00:55:33,413
Speaker 2: is a.

1114
00:55:33,493 --> 00:55:35,933
Speaker 16: New crime drama. It's based on a true story that

1115
00:55:36,173 --> 00:55:40,093
Speaker 16: inspired a podcast called Firebug, and it starts Taron Egerton,

1116
00:55:40,213 --> 00:55:44,133
Speaker 16: who plays a former firefighter who now works as an

1117
00:55:44,293 --> 00:55:47,573
Speaker 16: arson investigator. So he's had a few traumatic experiences at

1118
00:55:47,613 --> 00:55:51,013
Speaker 16: work that made him change. So we are directions and

1119
00:55:51,053 --> 00:55:55,213
Speaker 16: he's investigating too, serial arsenists and When his investigations sort

1120
00:55:55,213 --> 00:55:57,653
Speaker 16: of don't make any progress, he gets teamed up with

1121
00:55:57,733 --> 00:56:00,333
Speaker 16: a local detective to to try and solve the crimes,

1122
00:56:00,933 --> 00:56:04,893
Speaker 16: and it becomes this hatt and mouse game of trying

1123
00:56:04,933 --> 00:56:07,493
Speaker 16: to predict where the Arsinus strike next and trying to

1124
00:56:08,213 --> 00:56:11,253
Speaker 16: guess their next move. And watching this reminded me of

1125
00:56:11,413 --> 00:56:14,413
Speaker 16: how nice it was to have a crime thriller that

1126
00:56:14,613 --> 00:56:17,373
Speaker 16: wasn't all about murder and death. This is more of

1127
00:56:17,413 --> 00:56:19,653
Speaker 16: a psychological aspect to it. You know, they're trying to

1128
00:56:19,693 --> 00:56:22,333
Speaker 16: get into the mind of a serial Arcinus and workout

1129
00:56:22,613 --> 00:56:25,093
Speaker 16: where they're going to go next. They can't sort of

1130
00:56:25,133 --> 00:56:27,693
Speaker 16: trust anyone around them, you know, is it someone one

1131
00:56:27,733 --> 00:56:30,693
Speaker 16: of their colleagues. So this is something a little bit different.

1132
00:56:30,733 --> 00:56:33,573
Speaker 16: It does jump around a bit in the first episode,

1133
00:56:33,653 --> 00:56:37,053
Speaker 16: but you know it's intriguing. A great cast. It's dark

1134
00:56:37,173 --> 00:56:39,253
Speaker 16: and gritty and lots of twists and turns all the

1135
00:56:39,293 --> 00:56:41,813
Speaker 16: way through. You know, it's not perfect, but there's more

1136
00:56:41,853 --> 00:56:43,933
Speaker 16: than enough going on here to pull you in and

1137
00:56:44,093 --> 00:56:45,453
Speaker 16: keep you hooked and keep you watching.

1138
00:56:46,053 --> 00:56:49,133
Speaker 2: Oh superb okay, cool, let's smoke. That's on Apple TV

1139
00:56:49,253 --> 00:56:51,013
Speaker 2: plus and on TVNZ plus.

1140
00:56:51,293 --> 00:56:54,693
Speaker 16: Here we go, and this is a British sitcom that's

1141
00:56:54,973 --> 00:56:57,293
Speaker 16: just landed on TV and Z plus two seasons of

1142
00:56:57,373 --> 00:56:59,853
Speaker 16: it and a third one is on the way. And

1143
00:56:59,933 --> 00:57:01,693
Speaker 16: it's one of those British comedies. I don't want to

1144
00:57:01,733 --> 00:57:04,333
Speaker 16: say it's old fashioned, but it's more of a sort

1145
00:57:04,333 --> 00:57:06,653
Speaker 16: of traditional kind of comedy. It's not try to do

1146
00:57:06,773 --> 00:57:09,853
Speaker 16: anything etgy or clever. It's quite a comfortable kind of

1147
00:57:09,933 --> 00:57:13,133
Speaker 16: watch and it's not really about anything much either. It

1148
00:57:13,253 --> 00:57:16,773
Speaker 16: stars Katherine Parkinson and Alison Steedman, and it's about the

1149
00:57:16,893 --> 00:57:19,573
Speaker 16: lives of the Jessup family, who are a sort of

1150
00:57:19,613 --> 00:57:23,733
Speaker 16: a very ordinary middle class the Bourbon family. Their teenage

1151
00:57:23,813 --> 00:57:26,493
Speaker 16: son is recording their daily lives for a school project

1152
00:57:26,533 --> 00:57:29,933
Speaker 16: who's making a documentary and he just records what happens.

1153
00:57:30,053 --> 00:57:32,653
Speaker 16: And it's about the chaos and the silliness of the

1154
00:57:32,813 --> 00:57:35,893
Speaker 16: family's daily lives and all their extended family and friends.

1155
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Speaker 16: The humor is in the normality of it all, with

1156
00:57:40,933 --> 00:57:43,133
Speaker 16: you know, a touch of the absurd and the ridiculous

1157
00:57:43,293 --> 00:57:46,293
Speaker 16: and the infuriating. It's a very mild, a little bit

1158
00:57:46,333 --> 00:57:48,573
Speaker 16: of an old school kind of sitcom and a very

1159
00:57:48,613 --> 00:57:49,133
Speaker 16: easy watch.

1160
00:57:50,573 --> 00:57:52,333
Speaker 2: I like the sound of that. Sometimes there's something a

1161
00:57:52,373 --> 00:57:55,213
Speaker 2: bit you know sometimes the most relaxing shows are the

1162
00:57:55,253 --> 00:57:57,133
Speaker 2: ones that aren't overly complicated.

1163
00:57:57,333 --> 00:57:58,133
Speaker 8: You know exactly.

1164
00:57:58,333 --> 00:57:59,933
Speaker 2: We love it, so that could be a bit of me. Yeah,

1165
00:58:00,013 --> 00:58:02,053
Speaker 2: that's here we Go. That's on TV and Z Plus.

1166
00:58:02,133 --> 00:58:06,333
Speaker 2: The other shows Smoke is Apple TV Plus and Wolf Hall.

1167
00:58:06,453 --> 00:58:09,653
Speaker 2: All both series are streaming on Neon. All the details,

1168
00:58:09,693 --> 00:58:11,613
Speaker 2: of course, will be on the website. But you knew

1169
00:58:11,653 --> 00:58:13,413
Speaker 2: that it's twenty eight past ten.

1170
00:58:18,893 --> 00:58:20,493
Speaker 3: Getting your weekend started.

1171
00:58:20,733 --> 00:58:25,213
Speaker 1: It's Saturday morning with Jack Team on news TALKSB your.

1172
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Speaker 18: Heads were in a sandstorm, and that knocks me out.

1173
00:58:28,413 --> 00:58:29,413
Speaker 3: I didn't know them.

1174
00:58:29,533 --> 00:58:34,453
Speaker 18: It's never be enough forous since I seven, I gave

1175
00:58:34,493 --> 00:58:35,293
Speaker 18: you everything.

1176
00:58:35,413 --> 00:58:37,253
Speaker 3: Now we wake from a dream?

1177
00:58:37,333 --> 00:58:39,293
Speaker 6: Well baby, what was that.

1178
00:58:44,613 --> 00:58:45,173
Speaker 2: That is?

1179
00:58:45,773 --> 00:58:46,093
Speaker 4: Lord?

1180
00:58:47,053 --> 00:58:49,693
Speaker 2: You really need to know the production. It's just killing

1181
00:58:49,773 --> 00:58:53,373
Speaker 2: it Ey and I really feel like she's just kind

1182
00:58:53,413 --> 00:58:57,253
Speaker 2: of enjoying the process of coming out with different concepts

1183
00:58:57,333 --> 00:59:01,053
Speaker 2: behind her music and albums. Gone, of course, is the

1184
00:59:01,133 --> 00:59:03,693
Speaker 2: young girl from Aukand's North Shore and her place now

1185
00:59:03,893 --> 00:59:07,693
Speaker 2: is an international superstar who can draw a crowd to

1186
00:59:07,813 --> 00:59:11,213
Speaker 2: New York's Washington Square Park so large that not even

1187
00:59:11,253 --> 00:59:13,533
Speaker 2: the police can quite shut it down, and she gets

1188
00:59:13,653 --> 00:59:17,973
Speaker 2: threatened with being charged of inciting a riot. Ah so good.

1189
00:59:18,293 --> 00:59:21,613
Speaker 2: Despite her stardom though, she's still kind of a little quirky,

1190
00:59:22,373 --> 00:59:27,853
Speaker 2: embraces her quirkiness, a little bit alternative and always poetically honest.

1191
00:59:28,333 --> 00:59:30,253
Speaker 2: So her new album is out now, of course, it's

1192
00:59:30,293 --> 00:59:33,373
Speaker 2: called Virgin. It's four years since her last album, and

1193
00:59:33,453 --> 00:59:36,253
Speaker 2: this new record has been described by laud herself as

1194
00:59:36,293 --> 00:59:40,933
Speaker 2: quote a byproduct of an insane personal quest, which is

1195
00:59:41,053 --> 00:59:44,893
Speaker 2: kind of an alluring way to describe a creative piece

1196
00:59:44,933 --> 00:59:47,173
Speaker 2: of work. So we've led our music reviewer decipher what

1197
00:59:47,293 --> 00:59:49,453
Speaker 2: that could mean. Es Steale's going to join us before midday.

1198
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Speaker 2: We're going to play you a couple of tracks from Virgin,

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00:59:51,853 --> 00:59:54,413
Speaker 2: and we can get her thoughts and you can make

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00:59:54,493 --> 00:59:56,093
Speaker 2: up yours as well. If you haven't had to listen

1201
00:59:56,133 --> 00:59:57,933
Speaker 2: to Virgin. Nette looking forward to having a like a

1202
00:59:57,973 --> 00:59:59,773
Speaker 2: proper sit down. This is one of the few kind

1203
00:59:59,853 --> 01:00:01,853
Speaker 2: of albums that I really want to sit down and

1204
01:00:02,253 --> 01:00:04,613
Speaker 2: so can you know, like it feels like an appointment

1205
01:00:04,693 --> 01:00:08,293
Speaker 2: album when Lord Lisa's new music. So we'll get our

1206
01:00:08,373 --> 01:00:10,573
Speaker 2: music with your thoughts on that before midday as well

1207
01:00:10,613 --> 01:00:12,693
Speaker 2: as that before midday. Here's one for the train spot

1208
01:00:12,853 --> 01:00:15,693
Speaker 2: out there. Okay, this is like we asked some nerdy

1209
01:00:15,773 --> 01:00:17,373
Speaker 2: questions on the show. I feel like this is really

1210
01:00:17,413 --> 01:00:18,253
Speaker 2: putting things out there.

1211
01:00:18,253 --> 01:00:18,413
Speaker 3: Though.

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01:00:19,013 --> 01:00:22,373
Speaker 2: Of all the world's capitals, what would have the highest

1213
01:00:23,093 --> 01:00:28,173
Speaker 2: altitude for its runway? Okay, today we're going to take

1214
01:00:28,213 --> 01:00:31,173
Speaker 2: you to the city, the capital city that has the

1215
01:00:31,373 --> 01:00:36,813
Speaker 2: second highest altitude of any capital city in the world.

1216
01:00:37,093 --> 01:00:38,893
Speaker 2: So I think the highest. I could be wrong on this,

1217
01:00:38,933 --> 01:00:41,053
Speaker 2: but I'm pretty sure it is La Paz in Bolivia.

1218
01:00:41,733 --> 01:00:43,493
Speaker 2: I know that because I've landed at the airport and

1219
01:00:43,533 --> 01:00:46,533
Speaker 2: the airport runway is above four thousand meters. So if

1220
01:00:46,573 --> 01:00:49,773
Speaker 2: you think about that, the airport runway is higher than

1221
01:00:49,813 --> 01:00:53,773
Speaker 2: the summit of Alraki Mount Cook, which is incredible. And

1222
01:00:54,213 --> 01:00:57,333
Speaker 2: today's destination in our travel segment is only a wee

1223
01:00:57,453 --> 01:00:59,933
Speaker 2: way up the road and the same mountain range, Quito

1224
01:01:00,413 --> 01:01:02,653
Speaker 2: in Ecuador. I think that the runway there is at

1225
01:01:02,653 --> 01:01:06,573
Speaker 2: about two eight nine hundred meters. Our travel correspondent hasan

1226
01:01:06,893 --> 01:01:09,213
Speaker 2: to the Ecuadorian capital. He's going to share his top

1227
01:01:09,253 --> 01:01:12,213
Speaker 2: tips before midday as well. Right now, it's twenty five

1228
01:01:12,293 --> 01:01:15,253
Speaker 2: minutes to ten. We're talking tech next on Newstalk ZEDB.

1229
01:01:15,973 --> 01:01:19,813
Speaker 1: Putting the tough questions to the newspeakers the mic Asking Breakfast.

1230
01:01:19,893 --> 01:01:22,693
Speaker 19: The Interweber's wa washed currently telling me Erica Stamford is

1231
01:01:22,693 --> 01:01:24,573
Speaker 19: the Wocist minister in the government and under the cover

1232
01:01:24,653 --> 01:01:27,093
Speaker 19: of Dartan she is snuck into legislation commitment to the

1233
01:01:27,173 --> 01:01:29,493
Speaker 19: treaty that entrenches it in a way we should all

1234
01:01:29,573 --> 01:01:31,653
Speaker 19: be alarmed about. And Erica Stamford is, of course the

1235
01:01:31,733 --> 01:01:32,533
Speaker 19: Minister of Education.

1236
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Speaker 6: You say what I mean, This is what happens when

1237
01:01:35,093 --> 01:01:36,733
Speaker 6: you get a bunch of people who get all whipped

1238
01:01:36,813 --> 01:01:40,053
Speaker 6: up with hatred and spout and complete and utter lies.

1239
01:01:40,293 --> 01:01:42,613
Speaker 19: It is correct to say it is in there, and

1240
01:01:42,773 --> 01:01:45,533
Speaker 19: therefore some of the stuff that they're talking about can happen.

1241
01:01:45,573 --> 01:01:46,653
Speaker 3: Therefore they are correct.

1242
01:01:46,733 --> 01:01:49,013
Speaker 6: Well, hold on a minute, Yes it's there. I didn't

1243
01:01:49,053 --> 01:01:51,253
Speaker 6: put it there like that, claiming it's been there for

1244
01:01:51,373 --> 01:01:52,493
Speaker 6: a very long time.

1245
01:01:52,653 --> 01:01:53,893
Speaker 8: Are they legitimate questions?

1246
01:01:54,093 --> 01:01:54,293
Speaker 3: Yes?

1247
01:01:54,853 --> 01:01:58,013
Speaker 19: Back Monday from six am the mic Asking Breakfast with

1248
01:01:58,253 --> 01:02:00,133
Speaker 19: Avida newstalg ZB.

1249
01:02:01,093 --> 01:02:03,333
Speaker 2: Twenty three to eleven. You're with Jack Taime on Newstalk

1250
01:02:03,453 --> 01:02:07,253
Speaker 2: zedb our Textbert Paul Stenhouse is here details of a

1251
01:02:07,413 --> 01:02:11,213
Speaker 2: consequential decision by the Supreme Court in the United States

1252
01:02:12,053 --> 01:02:16,813
Speaker 2: considering or concerning one very large state pool and one

1253
01:02:16,933 --> 01:02:18,013
Speaker 2: very large website.

1254
01:02:19,773 --> 01:02:22,693
Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, the very large state is Texas, Jack and

1255
01:02:22,813 --> 01:02:26,493
Speaker 5: the websites are the websites we don't really talk about

1256
01:02:26,533 --> 01:02:29,773
Speaker 5: a lot, and are those adult websites on the internet,

1257
01:02:30,213 --> 01:02:35,613
Speaker 5: as you catch my drift. And so this Texas Law

1258
01:02:35,773 --> 01:02:41,493
Speaker 5: Right had basically said that children should not be allowed

1259
01:02:41,573 --> 01:02:45,693
Speaker 5: to view the adultites, right, which sounds.

1260
01:02:46,533 --> 01:02:48,813
Speaker 2: No more reasonable, Like, okay, that makes.

1261
01:02:48,693 --> 01:02:53,213
Speaker 5: Sense, sounds reasonable. Yeah. Now, now obviously there's some issues

1262
01:02:53,213 --> 01:02:56,053
Speaker 5: there around how you enforced that, but we'll put that aside.

1263
01:02:55,693 --> 01:02:56,173
Speaker 3: For the moment.

1264
01:02:57,773 --> 01:03:01,573
Speaker 5: This group, though, claims that in America we've got the

1265
01:03:02,053 --> 01:03:05,933
Speaker 5: First Amendment, which is all about free speech. They claimed

1266
01:03:06,053 --> 01:03:11,453
Speaker 5: that putting that rule in place actually violated the free

1267
01:03:11,653 --> 01:03:17,373
Speaker 5: speech of the adults right who wanted to view said content.

1268
01:03:18,053 --> 01:03:21,253
Speaker 5: And they said that the reason why was that in

1269
01:03:21,413 --> 01:03:24,053
Speaker 5: order to view said content, you need to put in

1270
01:03:24,293 --> 01:03:28,053
Speaker 5: like you know, like a government ID or a credit card,

1271
01:03:28,173 --> 01:03:31,213
Speaker 5: and there's probably like a vealing history because you're authenticated,

1272
01:03:31,813 --> 01:03:36,813
Speaker 5: and that those people may be deterred from what who said,

1273
01:03:36,933 --> 01:03:40,933
Speaker 5: adult content that that would impose on their free speech.

1274
01:03:41,533 --> 01:03:45,413
Speaker 5: And so this means to the Supreme Court Texas. Then

1275
01:03:45,933 --> 01:03:49,413
Speaker 5: the Supreme Court ruled in favor of the Texas law, saying, actually,

1276
01:03:49,933 --> 01:03:53,453
Speaker 5: the government is within its bounds to try to protect

1277
01:03:53,613 --> 01:03:58,893
Speaker 5: children and this is well and just and good. And

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01:03:59,293 --> 01:04:02,293
Speaker 5: Texas is one of twenty four states did you know

1279
01:04:02,413 --> 01:04:08,493
Speaker 5: that have passed age verification laws for adult webs sites online?

1280
01:04:08,653 --> 01:04:10,853
Speaker 5: And so this is really now paved the way and

1281
01:04:10,973 --> 01:04:13,773
Speaker 5: people have kind of started to think, well, what else

1282
01:04:13,893 --> 01:04:17,853
Speaker 5: could this be applied to? Right, because the Internet's always

1283
01:04:17,933 --> 01:04:20,373
Speaker 5: been kind of free and open, and there's always been

1284
01:04:20,413 --> 01:04:23,773
Speaker 5: the idea, and now we've said, hang on, the government

1285
01:04:24,053 --> 01:04:26,453
Speaker 5: or a state government in the United States can now

1286
01:04:26,573 --> 01:04:29,933
Speaker 5: decide whether or not you need to be age verified

1287
01:04:30,013 --> 01:04:34,693
Speaker 5: to view certain content. Because this is another interesting one too.

1288
01:04:34,773 --> 01:04:41,413
Speaker 5: The Texas Governor Jack called, you know, the proliferation of

1289
01:04:41,653 --> 01:04:46,013
Speaker 5: access that children drink can have to said adult websites

1290
01:04:46,493 --> 01:04:53,053
Speaker 5: a public health crisis. Wow, so those gals of looking

1291
01:04:53,173 --> 01:04:57,373
Speaker 5: after children, which is a hard core you know, it's interesting,

1292
01:04:57,613 --> 01:04:59,933
Speaker 5: I think the interesting arguments on both sides.

1293
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you can, you could this kind of there's

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Speaker 2: actually nuance. I mean, there's a tricky subject and one

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Speaker 2: that we can sort of only go into something.

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Speaker 5: Don't you know you've done it.

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Speaker 2: You very definitely described the situation, I think, Paul, so

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Speaker 2: we can thank you for that, especially given us to

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Speaker 2: holidays have just kicked off. But lose curious because you

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Speaker 2: can imagine from the website's perspective, like having this verification

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Speaker 2: is a massive barrier to increasing viewership, right, And you

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Speaker 2: can imagine there are real privacy and security concerns if

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Speaker 2: there is age verification and then people have viewing histories

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Speaker 2: and that information was hacked or leaked or something like

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Speaker 2: that and then made public, Like you can just you

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Speaker 2: can just imagine like there are all sorts of really

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Speaker 2: interesting free speech implications I think as well. So, yeah, hey, Salesforce,

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Speaker 2: and the CEO at Salesforce, now I reckon that between

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Speaker 2: thirty and fifty percent of the internal work that the

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Speaker 2: company is doing is done by AI.

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Speaker 4: Is that right?

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Speaker 2: That seems like a very very high figure.

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Speaker 3: That's what I thought too.

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Speaker 5: That's what he said in a recent interview. Didn't see

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Speaker 5: how it was being measured, But it seems staggering, doesn't it.

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Speaker 5: I Mean he then goes on to say that it

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Speaker 5: is being used for things like software engineering, it's being

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Speaker 5: used for things like customer service, and so I can

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Speaker 5: imagine maybe in some of those areas, thirty to fifty

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Speaker 5: percent of that work is now being done by AI.

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Speaker 5: But I think it really goes to show, right, just

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Speaker 5: these big companies have when they go when they go

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Speaker 5: all in, and when they had gone all in on AI,

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Speaker 5: they had gone all in. Salesforce even says that this

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Speaker 5: kick like the AI kind of agent piece that you know,

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Speaker 5: and Salesforce also wants to sell their own agent solutions

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Speaker 5: that does some of the customer service stuff. Right, So

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Speaker 5: he's kind of talking about this, you know, he's talking

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Speaker 5: about it in a way that makes positions as product well.

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Speaker 5: But yes, of course, you know a lot of that work,

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Speaker 5: a lot of that work can can be done by

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Speaker 5: these agents and now is being done by these agents

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Speaker 5: and has allowed them to hire fewer humans. And he

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Speaker 5: said that he has staged that. And so we definitely

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Speaker 5: are in this age. Now we're at this tipping point.

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Speaker 5: I guess where the technology is there. It's now good

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Speaker 5: enough and it's deployed well enough can actually be taking

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Speaker 5: over the jobs that folks do. Now the companies will

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Speaker 5: say that the jobs aren't being removed, are being you know,

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Speaker 5: the being positioned repositioned at a higher value work which

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Speaker 5: you try to take them to their word for But

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Speaker 5: it's also not just salesforce Jack, because Microsoft and Alphabet

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Speaker 5: have said that they've kind of claimed some similar stats too.

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Speaker 5: Around they're saying around thirty percent of the code on

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Speaker 5: then projects, the new code is being contributed by AI.

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Speaker 5: So this isn't just like a flashpan thing anymore. This

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Speaker 5: is like has some real implications for humans and economies.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, oh my god, and the entire workforce at the time,

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Speaker 2: class desk bound workforce. Yeah, I mean, yeah, it is

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Speaker 2: incredible to think if that number is even close to

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Speaker 2: being correct, that's amazing. Paul, thank you so much for that.

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Speaker 2: That's our textpert Paul Stenhouse before eleven o'clock tips on

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Speaker 2: trying to get the indoor plants at your place to grow. Well, see,

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Speaker 2: our problem isn't so much the growing. It's like down

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Speaker 2: melee bugs and stuff. We always just seem to I

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Speaker 2: don't know what it is that all of our plants

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Speaker 2: that were seem to get diseased or completely overrun with

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Speaker 2: merely bugs. So we're going to talk to our man

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Speaker 2: in the garden to get his top tips. Although he

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Speaker 2: freely admits that he's not necessarily a house Plant Expert

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Speaker 2: seventeen to eleven. You were Jacktaime on Newstalks EDB A

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Speaker 2: little bit of.

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Speaker 3: Way to kick off your weekend.

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Speaker 2: Talks MB fourteen to ten on News Talks EDB. Michael J.

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Speaker 2: Fox is probably the best known person with Parkinson's disease

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Speaker 2: in the world. But he had or has early onset

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Speaker 2: Parkinson's disease. What's interesting about the condition is that it

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Speaker 2: is now one of the most common neurological conditions for

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Speaker 2: people over the age of sixty, which obviously isn't early

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Speaker 2: on set. So here with the details is doctor Brian.

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Speaker 3: Betty call to Brian, Oh, good morning Jack. Here Ian,

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Speaker 3: nice to.

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Speaker 2: Be chatting with you, as per. Let's start off with

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Speaker 2: the basic question.

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Speaker 5: Then, what is Parkinson's well Parkinson's.

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Speaker 20: Yeah, Look, it's a degenerative disease of the neurosystem and

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Speaker 20: it causes movement problems. Okay, it's one of the commonest

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Speaker 20: conditions neurological conditions that occur over the age of sixty.

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Speaker 20: Now it effects about one in one hundred over the

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Speaker 20: age of sixteen. We've got about fourteen thousand people in

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Speaker 20: New Zealand who are affected by Parkinson's. Occasionally, so test

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Speaker 20: bey as you get older there's more of a risk,

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Speaker 20: but occasionally there's early onset, and I suppose Michael J.

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Speaker 20: Fox is the big example of that, and we're all

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Speaker 20: familiar with that.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 20: Basically what happens is nerve cells in the brain start

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Speaker 20: to break down and we lose a chemical messenger. So

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Speaker 20: these are little messages in the brain chemical called dopamine.

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Speaker 20: Now this dopamine starts to cause these movement problems. Now

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Speaker 20: there's no simple test to diagnose Parkinson's. It's actually a

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Speaker 20: diagnosis of symptoms and what actually happens over time.

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Speaker 2: I didn't realize that, So how do you recognize them?

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Speaker 20: Yeah, look now that now it can be really really

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Speaker 20: tricking early eight. In the early stages, it often is

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Speaker 20: a very very slow developing disorder, and so initially it

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Speaker 20: can be missed and very very difficult to see. And

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Speaker 20: everyone's journey is different with Parkinson's. That's something I do

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Speaker 20: need to say. So there's no to that are exactly identical.

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Speaker 20: But what commonly people start to notice is a trendor

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Speaker 20: at rest. So it'll be one side of the body.

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Speaker 20: It'll often be the arm, and it would be just

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Speaker 20: a tremor that they start to notice when they're resting,

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Speaker 20: and when they go to do something like pick up

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Speaker 20: a couple, do something, it can actually go away or disappear.

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Speaker 20: So it's very particular what starts to happen, but over

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Speaker 20: time it starts to fluctuate, so it can get worse

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Speaker 20: at particular times a day and better at other times

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01:11:05,213 --> 01:11:09,173
Speaker 20: a day. Now again, over time, other things start to develop,

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Speaker 20: so you can start to get this slow movement disorder

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Speaker 20: where it's very difficult to do things like pick up cups,

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Speaker 20: get up off a chair, start to move or walk,

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Speaker 20: very stiff muscles and a loss of balance which can

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Speaker 20: risk falls and things often associate with depression. Anxiety and

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Speaker 20: lack of motivation is another thing that's really seen with that.

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Speaker 20: People are very low motivation as it develops, and a

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Speaker 20: particular issue is loss of smell and that that actually occurs.

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Speaker 20: And the other thing that we see is difficulty in speech.

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Speaker 20: So there's this very slow, difficult to speak thing that occurs,

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Speaker 20: and this what we call paucity of facial muscles, so

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Speaker 20: people get this very blank look on their face and

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Speaker 20: are very difficult to express things. And that's what happens

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Speaker 20: over time as it develops.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so what causes it?

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Speaker 20: Look, we don't know the cause, so it's not well understood. However,

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Speaker 20: there are some risk factors, so like age is probably

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Speaker 20: the biggest risk actor. Damn, the history know as risk

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Speaker 20: fact is that males are more likely to get it

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Speaker 20: than females. Now there's a couple of other things. Exposure

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Speaker 20: to certain pesticides, can we thought of got a link

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Speaker 20: now at some illegal drugs as well. That's the other

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Speaker 20: really interesting thing. But the other one is traumatic brain injuries.

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Speaker 20: And again probably the big example of that is Muhammad

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Speaker 20: Ali that three years actually stopped boxing started to develop

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Speaker 20: Parkinson's and again that was very well known and that

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Speaker 20: was trauma induced. So there's a number of things that

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Speaker 20: can be associated with it, right, so can we tweet it? Look,

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Speaker 20: it can't be cured and it does tend to be progressive. However,

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Speaker 20: there's a range of medication that can actually help and

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Speaker 20: alleviate the symptoms. Now, these are either medications that replace

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Speaker 20: the dopamine this chemical and the brain that we're losing,

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Speaker 20: or stop the breakdown of dopamine in the brain and

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Speaker 20: they can be very very effective at reducing the symptoms

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Speaker 20: over time and alleviating symptoms. Now we know that lifestyle

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01:13:05,133 --> 01:13:10,453
Speaker 20: is very important, so that's exercise to improve muscle strength, falls, prevention,

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01:13:11,293 --> 01:13:13,933
Speaker 20: use of walking aids, massage, things like that we know

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01:13:13,973 --> 01:13:17,613
Speaker 20: are very useful and actually occupational therapists. They're very very

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Speaker 20: useful to teach people how to do daily activities like

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Speaker 20: you know, picking up a cup and doing things, so

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Speaker 20: they often become involved as time goes on. And there's

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Speaker 20: a very very good support or organization in New Zealand

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Speaker 20: which is Parkinson's New Zealand. Lots of really useful information,

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Speaker 20: lots of really useful support mechanisms or to tap into support.

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Speaker 20: So Parkinson's New Zealand is a really really good place

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Speaker 20: to go for information on Parkinson's itself and we can

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Speaker 20: get support.

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Speaker 2: Yeah right, hey, thank you, Brian, appreciate it as eva great.

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Speaker 8: Thanks.

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Speaker 2: There's doctor Brian Benny with us this morning. It's nine

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Speaker 2: to eleven. You're Jack Taime on News dogs 'b.

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Speaker 1: Garding with Steel Sharp one hundred bucks of free accessories

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Speaker 1: on selected chainsaws.

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Speaker 2: A man in the garden root climb passes very much,

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Speaker 2: not in the garden heat indoors today, and usually that

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Speaker 2: would just be like he would be, he would be

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Speaker 2: recoiling in enrage the mere prospect. But there is good reason.

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Speaker 8: Good morning sir, Good morning geck.

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Speaker 20: Are you're all right?

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Speaker 8: You're you're inside?

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Speaker 2: I suppose I am inside, But you know, I'm very

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Speaker 2: relieved that you're helping us out this morning, because we

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Speaker 2: as well as you know, flailing about in our garden.

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Speaker 2: I love to grow stuff and doors as well. We

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Speaker 2: like to have quite a lot of green about it.

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Speaker 2: But I would say we have mixed results at our place,

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Speaker 2: to say the least.

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Speaker 8: It's interesting because and so do I sometimes and it

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Speaker 8: is and I cannot predict when it happens. So basically

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Speaker 8: what this is about is the fact that for us

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Speaker 8: as we we've got normally little trouble in now there's

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Speaker 8: no problem at all. But Julie and I we we

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Speaker 8: struggle to grow all kids insight sometimes. And Julie has

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Speaker 8: got two totally right hands and green thumbs, whereas I've

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Speaker 8: got gang green thumbs anyway, But one of the for instances,

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Speaker 8: one of the things that we're not really that good

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Speaker 8: at is it's onsidium, which is the candy downsair, which

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Speaker 8: is a beautiful tropical if you're like orchard and follownopsis.

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Speaker 8: And here it comes to think, we've got a daughter

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Speaker 8: is a blinking architect. She knows nothing about guarding me.

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Speaker 8: And she has been growing in her window sill. And

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Speaker 8: every time we go there, because they live down the road,

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Speaker 8: Julie goes like, oh my god, look at how the

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Speaker 8: hell does she do that? And it's this almost this little,

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Speaker 8: this little family thing going on there.

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Speaker 3: But there you go.

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Speaker 8: So this is exactly what I thought we need to

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Speaker 8: talk about, because we all know that if you do orchard,

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Speaker 8: she's got to have a certain nargetant, fertilizer and a potage. Further,

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Speaker 8: it becomes quite tricky, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.

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Speaker 8: But the point is it, for us, it just doesn't work.

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Speaker 8: So you put them in a windowsill right where there's

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01:16:11,933 --> 01:16:15,493
Speaker 8: a bit of sunlight, so you put the opposite and

1505
01:16:15,573 --> 01:16:18,893
Speaker 8: then if you've got too much sun, those plants go like, oh,

1506
01:16:22,133 --> 01:16:24,333
Speaker 8: so you go to an eastern side where the sun

1507
01:16:24,413 --> 01:16:27,013
Speaker 8: in the morning only when it's not that hot, and

1508
01:16:27,093 --> 01:16:30,413
Speaker 8: for the rest it's reasonably good life. But et cetera.

1509
01:16:31,013 --> 01:16:34,613
Speaker 8: And it still doesn't work. I go to Nicki and

1510
01:16:34,693 --> 01:16:39,293
Speaker 8: I see she has the same eastern sun if you

1511
01:16:39,453 --> 01:16:42,493
Speaker 8: like sun rise in the morning, very very only an

1512
01:16:42,533 --> 01:16:45,213
Speaker 8: hour or two in the kitchen. And I asked her, so,

1513
01:16:45,373 --> 01:16:48,733
Speaker 8: how what do you think this works? And she says, oh,

1514
01:16:48,893 --> 01:16:51,333
Speaker 8: it's very simple. This is the kitchen, so it's always

1515
01:16:51,813 --> 01:16:54,893
Speaker 8: moist and damp, and there's you've got the oven going.

1516
01:16:55,053 --> 01:16:58,893
Speaker 8: It doesn't wall oh and all that we put we

1517
01:16:58,973 --> 01:17:01,853
Speaker 8: shall put ours in the kitchen, nada, you know that

1518
01:17:02,013 --> 01:17:02,613
Speaker 8: sort of stuff.

1519
01:17:04,573 --> 01:17:07,053
Speaker 2: It'll be the gang green. It'll be the game green again.

1520
01:17:07,893 --> 01:17:10,653
Speaker 8: It is the game Green. So but anyway, so we're

1521
01:17:10,813 --> 01:17:12,973
Speaker 8: we've kind of we're kind of gotten it a bit.

1522
01:17:14,253 --> 01:17:16,133
Speaker 8: Julie next a little bit of a cutting off that

1523
01:17:16,333 --> 01:17:20,293
Speaker 8: plut Oh, no, I shouldn't sit on air. Oh shit, anyway,

1524
01:17:21,053 --> 01:17:24,973
Speaker 8: and it seems to okay, it go okay at the moment,

1525
01:17:25,853 --> 01:17:28,173
Speaker 8: but you know, you try all sorts of bits and pieces,

1526
01:17:28,213 --> 01:17:31,733
Speaker 8: and then I came to the conclusion that Nikki, just

1527
01:17:32,333 --> 01:17:33,813
Speaker 8: just what do you mean fertilize this?

1528
01:17:33,853 --> 01:17:38,253
Speaker 2: It's just just ridiculous. Yeah, well, well, the way we

1529
01:17:38,333 --> 01:17:40,253
Speaker 2: get ours to grow is we don't put it in

1530
01:17:40,333 --> 01:17:42,813
Speaker 2: the window. Cells. So we've got the waste facing windows,

1531
01:17:42,853 --> 01:17:44,693
Speaker 2: but we put it away from the winner of a

1532
01:17:44,733 --> 01:17:46,933
Speaker 2: good couple of meters. I reckon that might be the key, Ruth,

1533
01:17:46,973 --> 01:17:49,413
Speaker 2: thank you so much. Rude Climb pasted in the garden

1534
01:17:49,493 --> 01:17:51,253
Speaker 2: for us. After eleven o'clock, I'm going to play you

1535
01:17:51,333 --> 01:17:54,573
Speaker 2: some of Lord's brand new album, this first album released

1536
01:17:54,613 --> 01:17:57,413
Speaker 2: in four years. News is next though the Saturday morning

1537
01:17:57,533 --> 01:17:59,173
Speaker 2: I'm Jack Tame and this is his doors.

1538
01:17:59,613 --> 01:18:04,293
Speaker 1: We need all Boones down Saturday mornings with Jack Day

1539
01:18:04,533 --> 01:18:08,133
Speaker 1: keeping the conversation going through the weekend with bpure dot

1540
01:18:08,213 --> 01:18:11,413
Speaker 1: cot in here for high quality supplements used talks NB.

1541
01:18:35,413 --> 01:18:38,413
Speaker 2: Good morning. I hope you're having a crack at Saturday

1542
01:18:38,493 --> 01:18:41,453
Speaker 2: wherever you've woken up in parandole. We can't really say

1543
01:18:41,453 --> 01:18:44,933
Speaker 2: paradise again with not this weekend. Well we can. We

1544
01:18:45,053 --> 01:18:47,573
Speaker 2: can say it whether or not we feel it this weekend.

1545
01:18:47,693 --> 01:18:50,453
Speaker 2: My goodness, it has been a wild thirty six hours.

1546
01:18:50,853 --> 01:18:52,493
Speaker 2: To say the very least. There are still sorts of

1547
01:18:52,813 --> 01:18:54,933
Speaker 2: all sorts of warnings in place all around the country.

1548
01:18:55,773 --> 01:18:59,013
Speaker 2: Is that the wild front makes its way across New Zealand.

1549
01:18:59,173 --> 01:19:00,893
Speaker 2: We've got the very latest on the News Talks. He'd

1550
01:19:00,933 --> 01:19:03,333
Speaker 2: be website, The New Zealand Here old team in the

1551
01:19:03,413 --> 01:19:06,613
Speaker 2: newsroom this morning making sure they're keeping up to speeders well,

1552
01:19:06,653 --> 01:19:08,413
Speaker 2: so if you want any of those updates, make sure

1553
01:19:08,453 --> 01:19:11,373
Speaker 2: you go to enzidherld dot co dot NZED. But just

1554
01:19:11,493 --> 01:19:15,853
Speaker 2: really very dramatic pictures from a whole range of regions

1555
01:19:16,533 --> 01:19:20,533
Speaker 2: from the Deep South right up to right up to Auckland,

1556
01:19:20,693 --> 01:19:23,213
Speaker 2: So make sure you keep up with the very latest

1557
01:19:23,213 --> 01:19:24,973
Speaker 2: if you're in part of the country that is expecting

1558
01:19:25,093 --> 01:19:28,013
Speaker 2: a bit more while weather before this pass finally moves

1559
01:19:28,093 --> 01:19:30,453
Speaker 2: on before midday on New Storks thet there, we're going

1560
01:19:30,493 --> 01:19:33,053
Speaker 2: to have a bit of a listen to Lord's latest album.

1561
01:19:33,213 --> 01:19:36,293
Speaker 2: She released Virgin yesterday, that's the name of the album.

1562
01:19:36,893 --> 01:19:39,333
Speaker 2: And I'll tell you what, I've really got the sense

1563
01:19:39,373 --> 01:19:41,893
Speaker 2: over the last couple of months that Lord has been

1564
01:19:42,293 --> 01:19:46,093
Speaker 2: enjoying the process of releasing this album. She has really

1565
01:19:46,293 --> 01:19:48,613
Speaker 2: leaned into making it a bit of an event, and

1566
01:19:48,653 --> 01:19:51,293
Speaker 2: that she's been kind of drip feeding things for the

1567
01:19:51,413 --> 01:19:53,693
Speaker 2: last few months. And I remember right back to when

1568
01:19:53,773 --> 01:19:56,293
Speaker 2: she first released Pure Hero and she was kind of

1569
01:19:56,373 --> 01:19:58,413
Speaker 2: doing the same thing, but she's kind of taken things

1570
01:19:58,453 --> 01:20:00,413
Speaker 2: to the next level with Virgin. So if you go

1571
01:20:00,573 --> 01:20:03,813
Speaker 2: back to April. That was when she announced a kind

1572
01:20:03,853 --> 01:20:07,213
Speaker 2: of surprise pop up concert in washing And Square Park

1573
01:20:08,013 --> 01:20:11,013
Speaker 2: in New York, and it didn't actually happen, if you recall,

1574
01:20:11,173 --> 01:20:14,813
Speaker 2: the police in the end apparently actually threatened her with

1575
01:20:15,013 --> 01:20:18,693
Speaker 2: charging her with inciting a riot because of the hundreds,

1576
01:20:18,693 --> 01:20:22,133
Speaker 2: if not thousands of Lord fans who turned up screaming

1577
01:20:22,333 --> 01:20:25,573
Speaker 2: in eager anticipation for that. So no, that was supposed

1578
01:20:25,613 --> 01:20:27,293
Speaker 2: to be a pop up concert didn't go he quite

1579
01:20:27,333 --> 01:20:31,213
Speaker 2: as planned. But then in May she had a Lord

1580
01:20:31,373 --> 01:20:34,453
Speaker 2: themed night at a nightclub in Sydney, or she didn't

1581
01:20:34,493 --> 01:20:36,013
Speaker 2: have it. They were having a Lord them night at

1582
01:20:36,053 --> 01:20:37,573
Speaker 2: a nightclub in Sydney, and all of a sudden she

1583
01:20:37,653 --> 01:20:40,173
Speaker 2: turned up there, and even in New Zealand and Auckland

1584
01:20:40,733 --> 01:20:45,253
Speaker 2: when she popped up and had a little secret bathroom concert,

1585
01:20:45,333 --> 01:20:48,053
Speaker 2: once again giving her fans and followers just a few

1586
01:20:48,173 --> 01:20:50,973
Speaker 2: tidbits of information on social media, a few breadcrumbs if

1587
01:20:51,013 --> 01:20:54,453
Speaker 2: you like. Those keenest fans turned up, listened to her concert,

1588
01:20:54,973 --> 01:20:57,533
Speaker 2: listen to her album in a bathroom, which I think

1589
01:20:57,693 --> 01:21:00,373
Speaker 2: was such a great idea. So anyway, she has released

1590
01:21:00,773 --> 01:21:02,893
Speaker 2: Virgin and the way that she kind of marked the

1591
01:21:02,973 --> 01:21:06,893
Speaker 2: day yesterday and releasing it was at Glastonburgh. She played

1592
01:21:06,893 --> 01:21:09,933
Speaker 2: a secret set, so once again kind of not doing

1593
01:21:10,013 --> 01:21:12,173
Speaker 2: things by halves. She basically said on social media that

1594
01:21:12,253 --> 01:21:14,373
Speaker 2: she was going to be playing the eleven thirty am

1595
01:21:14,453 --> 01:21:17,613
Speaker 2: show on the Woodsy Stage at Glastonbury. Heaves and heaps

1596
01:21:17,613 --> 01:21:20,413
Speaker 2: of fans turned up in the area ours in advance

1597
01:21:20,453 --> 01:21:21,853
Speaker 2: because they knew it was going to be new music.

1598
01:21:21,893 --> 01:21:23,733
Speaker 2: They knew they'd be hearing the album for the first time,

1599
01:21:23,853 --> 01:21:25,933
Speaker 2: so they were there for that. She played for about

1600
01:21:25,973 --> 01:21:28,053
Speaker 2: forty five minutes and we are going to play you

1601
01:21:28,133 --> 01:21:30,973
Speaker 2: a couple of tracks from Virgin before the end of

1602
01:21:31,053 --> 01:21:33,813
Speaker 2: our show at midday today. So really looking forward to

1603
01:21:33,933 --> 01:21:37,373
Speaker 2: listening to Lord's latest work. She is just an incredible

1604
01:21:37,653 --> 01:21:41,733
Speaker 2: creative and I just love seeing, you know, a new

1605
01:21:41,813 --> 01:21:45,213
Speaker 2: Zealander celebrated on the world stage for their creative output

1606
01:21:45,333 --> 01:21:47,453
Speaker 2: as she is. So really looking forward to listening to

1607
01:21:47,493 --> 01:21:49,853
Speaker 2: a bit of that right now. It is ten past eleven.

1608
01:21:50,373 --> 01:21:55,813
Speaker 2: Jack Team talk sustainability on Saturday mornings. Kate Hall aka

1609
01:21:55,973 --> 01:21:58,613
Speaker 2: Ethically Kate, that's her social media name, is with us

1610
01:21:58,693 --> 01:22:00,053
Speaker 2: this morning, Gilda.

1611
01:22:00,093 --> 01:22:00,613
Speaker 15: Good morning.

1612
01:22:00,813 --> 01:22:03,373
Speaker 2: You're focusing on a bit of sustainability this morning. That

1613
01:22:03,453 --> 01:22:06,853
Speaker 2: I think most of us often overlook and that's being

1614
01:22:06,973 --> 01:22:10,373
Speaker 2: digitally sustainable. So like whether it's you know, you're kind

1615
01:22:10,413 --> 01:22:13,253
Speaker 2: of online life, using emails, all that kind of thing,

1616
01:22:13,653 --> 01:22:16,493
Speaker 2: using AI, how to be more sustainable when doing it.

1617
01:22:16,573 --> 01:22:19,693
Speaker 2: So why does this matter? Why should we be looking

1618
01:22:19,733 --> 01:22:22,453
Speaker 2: at our digital behavior through a sustainability leans?

1619
01:22:23,253 --> 01:22:26,573
Speaker 15: Well, I think because we all engage in technology, right,

1620
01:22:26,853 --> 01:22:29,813
Speaker 15: you know, we're all in our phones, our laptops, our computers.

1621
01:22:30,173 --> 01:22:35,733
Speaker 15: We're storing photos, we're storing documents, restoring voicemails, like we

1622
01:22:35,853 --> 01:22:38,493
Speaker 15: have all of this stuff that we because it's not

1623
01:22:38,613 --> 01:22:41,493
Speaker 15: physically there, Like we're not putting our waste into a

1624
01:22:41,573 --> 01:22:45,013
Speaker 15: physical rubbish bin. We're just draining it to a little

1625
01:22:45,173 --> 01:22:49,293
Speaker 15: rubbish icon on our computers, and we're not actually seeing

1626
01:22:50,733 --> 01:22:53,053
Speaker 15: we're not seeing the stuff visibly, so we kind of

1627
01:22:53,173 --> 01:22:57,093
Speaker 15: just don't think about it's impact a lot. But you know,

1628
01:22:57,213 --> 01:23:01,773
Speaker 15: our cloud storage, all our emails, AI in particular has

1629
01:23:01,853 --> 01:23:04,933
Speaker 15: a carbon footprint, and I mean AI is really new,

1630
01:23:04,973 --> 01:23:07,693
Speaker 15: and there's all sorts of of SATs around what that

1631
01:23:07,813 --> 01:23:11,053
Speaker 15: cabin footprint is that that we've kind of properly settled

1632
01:23:11,253 --> 01:23:14,133
Speaker 15: exactly on what that looks like. So won't quote any stats.

1633
01:23:14,213 --> 01:23:17,373
Speaker 15: But it's it's big, and it's only going to get bigger.

1634
01:23:17,493 --> 01:23:17,773
Speaker 3: Do you know.

1635
01:23:17,973 --> 01:23:20,333
Speaker 2: I remember seeing sorry to interrupt you, I saw something

1636
01:23:20,413 --> 01:23:24,173
Speaker 2: from Sam Altman, you know, who's the CEO of open Ai,

1637
01:23:24,293 --> 01:23:26,573
Speaker 2: which makes chet GPT. It was last month or the

1638
01:23:26,693 --> 01:23:29,013
Speaker 2: month before, and he said they're spending millions and millions

1639
01:23:29,053 --> 01:23:33,453
Speaker 2: of dollars on energy, but just just in the way

1640
01:23:33,533 --> 01:23:36,413
Speaker 2: that people are saying please and thank you to chet GPT.

1641
01:23:36,653 --> 01:23:38,973
Speaker 2: So the processing that is involved. If you say to

1642
01:23:39,053 --> 01:23:41,573
Speaker 2: chet GPT, can you please give me an idea for dinner?

1643
01:23:42,333 --> 01:23:46,613
Speaker 2: By saying please, the digital processing that is required requires

1644
01:23:46,653 --> 01:23:49,533
Speaker 2: so much energy that when you imagine all of the

1645
01:23:49,573 --> 01:23:51,453
Speaker 2: people around the world saying please and thank you to

1646
01:23:51,573 --> 01:23:53,693
Speaker 2: chet GPT, it's costing millions of dollars.

1647
01:23:56,533 --> 01:23:58,093
Speaker 11: It's full on it.

1648
01:23:58,293 --> 01:24:00,813
Speaker 15: And that's just one great example of you think of

1649
01:24:00,893 --> 01:24:03,733
Speaker 15: all those little tiny emails and in bus or all

1650
01:24:03,773 --> 01:24:07,733
Speaker 15: those jupilicate photos that are sitting in your cloud storage

1651
01:24:08,533 --> 01:24:10,693
Speaker 15: that are all adding up. You know, we say, oh,

1652
01:24:10,733 --> 01:24:13,093
Speaker 15: I'm just one person, but we're just one person out

1653
01:24:13,133 --> 01:24:16,493
Speaker 15: of billions of people. So there are some like really

1654
01:24:16,613 --> 01:24:19,413
Speaker 15: simple things I think that people can, like we can

1655
01:24:19,493 --> 01:24:22,493
Speaker 15: get into the habit of I really wish they taught

1656
01:24:22,493 --> 01:24:25,813
Speaker 15: this at schools around, just like digital kind of hygiene,

1657
01:24:26,373 --> 01:24:29,933
Speaker 15: because it's not only obviously from an environmental point of view.

1658
01:24:29,973 --> 01:24:32,813
Speaker 15: Absolutely we want to reduce the carbon footprint the amount

1659
01:24:32,853 --> 01:24:35,853
Speaker 15: of energy we're needing to store all this stuff globally,

1660
01:24:35,933 --> 01:24:39,973
Speaker 15: but it's also about it being better for your mental

1661
01:24:40,013 --> 01:24:43,933
Speaker 15: health too in a way. It's yeah, if you're I mean,

1662
01:24:44,213 --> 01:24:47,133
Speaker 15: people say, you know, a clean, cluttered space helps your

1663
01:24:47,333 --> 01:24:50,013
Speaker 15: mind as well, And I say that with especially with

1664
01:24:50,413 --> 01:24:52,813
Speaker 15: your computer, if you're someone who has all the tabs open,

1665
01:24:53,213 --> 01:24:56,013
Speaker 15: all the stuff full of your desktop, or you're following

1666
01:24:56,293 --> 01:24:59,853
Speaker 15: people on social media that you don't actually feed into

1667
01:24:59,893 --> 01:25:03,213
Speaker 15: your life. So simple things that I do, And I

1668
01:25:03,453 --> 01:25:05,693
Speaker 15: try to do this kind of on a regular basis

1669
01:25:05,733 --> 01:25:09,053
Speaker 15: and just have that kind of digital hygiene as value

1670
01:25:09,093 --> 01:25:12,213
Speaker 15: of mine. But I'll do this kind of every few months,

1671
01:25:12,613 --> 01:25:15,613
Speaker 15: maybe twice a year of just going through and I'm

1672
01:25:15,653 --> 01:25:20,813
Speaker 15: subscribing from different email databases, things that don't serve me anymore,

1673
01:25:22,053 --> 01:25:25,413
Speaker 15: deleting bunches of emails that I don't need, and following

1674
01:25:25,573 --> 01:25:30,093
Speaker 15: accounts on social media, looking and assessing my screen time

1675
01:25:30,453 --> 01:25:33,573
Speaker 15: and actually thinking, you know, am I proud of this

1676
01:25:35,293 --> 01:25:38,733
Speaker 15: it's less of an environmental but more am I.

1677
01:25:41,253 --> 01:25:42,493
Speaker 2: Yeah, I am?

1678
01:25:42,533 --> 01:25:43,573
Speaker 3: I am yeah?

1679
01:25:43,613 --> 01:25:46,133
Speaker 15: Am I proud of this? Like if I listen to

1680
01:25:46,213 --> 01:25:49,013
Speaker 15: be on my gravestone right now, you know, whole spent

1681
01:25:49,173 --> 01:25:52,013
Speaker 15: four hours and twenty minutes dawn his phone because is

1682
01:25:52,093 --> 01:25:57,013
Speaker 15: that Yeah? Is this actually helping and benefiting my life?

1683
01:25:57,493 --> 01:26:00,493
Speaker 15: Our technology should be supporting us rather than draining us.

1684
01:26:00,693 --> 01:26:02,853
Speaker 2: Yeah, rather than dictating everything in.

1685
01:26:02,893 --> 01:26:07,293
Speaker 15: Our lives exactly. And also, the less time you spend online, yeah,

1686
01:26:07,333 --> 01:26:10,973
Speaker 15: the more data you're going to at, the more downloads

1687
01:26:11,013 --> 01:26:14,013
Speaker 15: you're gonna download, all those types of things. And speaking

1688
01:26:14,053 --> 01:26:17,093
Speaker 15: of downloading something, it's it's about you know, when you're

1689
01:26:17,213 --> 01:26:21,333
Speaker 15: interacting with your computer, when you're checking emails instead of

1690
01:26:21,493 --> 01:26:25,973
Speaker 15: downloading something, just clicking through to the link on the internet, different,

1691
01:26:26,213 --> 01:26:29,333
Speaker 15: different stuff like that. I recently, kind of in the

1692
01:26:29,453 --> 01:26:32,893
Speaker 15: last few years made a task every single day, I

1693
01:26:33,773 --> 01:26:35,973
Speaker 15: have a task that I make sure my downloads and

1694
01:26:36,093 --> 01:26:37,133
Speaker 15: desktop is clear.

1695
01:26:37,893 --> 01:26:40,053
Speaker 2: Oh that's yeah. Yeah.

1696
01:26:40,173 --> 01:26:41,693
Speaker 15: You don't get to the end of the year and

1697
01:26:41,773 --> 01:26:45,413
Speaker 15: you've got this like huge, big full download follower when

1698
01:26:45,413 --> 01:26:48,173
Speaker 15: you're going is this important? I actually don't know, So

1699
01:26:48,213 --> 01:26:51,293
Speaker 15: I'm just gonna save it all. Yeah, So doing doing

1700
01:26:51,373 --> 01:26:55,773
Speaker 15: things like that. I also, especially as an online content creator,

1701
01:26:55,813 --> 01:26:58,533
Speaker 15: I have a lot of photos and videos.

1702
01:26:58,613 --> 01:26:59,373
Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot.

1703
01:26:59,573 --> 01:27:04,293
Speaker 15: I'd say, my digital footprint is yeah, quite big compared

1704
01:27:04,413 --> 01:27:07,573
Speaker 15: to the average person. So so I try. So there's

1705
01:27:07,613 --> 01:27:11,333
Speaker 15: different apps you can use that actually help you go

1706
01:27:11,493 --> 01:27:14,293
Speaker 15: through and cull a whole lot of that storage space,

1707
01:27:14,813 --> 01:27:17,773
Speaker 15: and then you can delete the app when you don't

1708
01:27:17,813 --> 01:27:21,773
Speaker 15: need it. So just actually rather than just doing that

1709
01:27:21,893 --> 01:27:25,133
Speaker 15: whole spring clean going around through your home, maybe awesome

1710
01:27:25,213 --> 01:27:27,413
Speaker 15: clean before winter. Winter's a great time to do that,

1711
01:27:27,573 --> 01:27:30,933
Speaker 15: to actually focus on, you know, what is my digital footprint?

1712
01:27:31,213 --> 01:27:32,813
Speaker 15: How can I make this so have your space for

1713
01:27:32,933 --> 01:27:34,733
Speaker 15: me and actually reduce my carbon footprint.

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01:27:34,973 --> 01:27:37,773
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's such good advice. You know, I

1715
01:27:38,133 --> 01:27:39,653
Speaker 2: can't even wait as long as you do. I just

1716
01:27:39,733 --> 01:27:42,013
Speaker 2: do it all the time. It's like a tidy house,

1717
01:27:42,053 --> 01:27:44,453
Speaker 2: tidy mind thing for me. The moment I gets into

1718
01:27:44,453 --> 01:27:48,373
Speaker 2: the marketing email to my personal emlagories, I just immediately unsubscribe.

1719
01:27:49,613 --> 01:27:52,213
Speaker 2: I just it just drives me nuts otherwise. But you know,

1720
01:27:53,053 --> 01:27:56,133
Speaker 2: I don't often look at it through the leans of

1721
01:27:57,733 --> 01:28:00,613
Speaker 2: you know, processing power and the energy required and all

1722
01:28:00,653 --> 01:28:02,093
Speaker 2: that kind of thing. Most of us just look at

1723
01:28:02,093 --> 01:28:04,653
Speaker 2: it as a kind of inconvenience, right, but it's such

1724
01:28:04,733 --> 01:28:07,973
Speaker 2: good advice. Yeah, okay, Hey, thank you for that, Kate.

1725
01:28:08,093 --> 01:28:10,813
Speaker 2: Really appreciate your time as per. And this is the

1726
01:28:10,893 --> 01:28:14,373
Speaker 2: ironic bit of our conversation where we go from talking

1727
01:28:14,493 --> 01:28:17,973
Speaker 2: about getting off digital devices quite you know, as much

1728
01:28:18,013 --> 01:28:19,973
Speaker 2: as we are, to reminding everyone that if they want

1729
01:28:20,013 --> 01:28:23,813
Speaker 2: to find you and follow you online, they can do

1730
01:28:23,973 --> 01:28:27,053
Speaker 2: so by searching ethically. Kate on the social media platforms

1731
01:28:27,333 --> 01:28:33,413
Speaker 2: season that is Kate Hall, a sustainability Experts seventeen past

1732
01:28:33,493 --> 01:28:36,413
Speaker 2: eleven on Newstalks 'DB travel.

1733
01:28:36,133 --> 01:28:39,533
Speaker 3: With Windy Woo Tours Where the World is Yours book Now.

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01:28:40,773 --> 01:28:43,573
Speaker 2: Mike Yardley is our travel correspondent, the Man with the

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Speaker 2: Toughest Gig on Saturday Mornings.

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Speaker 3: Golda, Gilda Jacko are you?

1737
01:28:48,733 --> 01:28:51,293
Speaker 2: I'm very well, thank you. Still kind of a basking

1738
01:28:51,373 --> 01:28:54,053
Speaker 2: in the after glow of last Saturday. And what was

1739
01:28:54,093 --> 01:28:55,853
Speaker 2: it you said that you said that the head was

1740
01:28:55,893 --> 01:28:58,173
Speaker 2: saying the chiefs, the heart was saying the sayers, but

1741
01:28:58,253 --> 01:29:00,013
Speaker 2: you were there in the stands to see his.

1742
01:29:00,173 --> 01:29:04,173
Speaker 9: Yeah, it was actually remarkably mild, even though it was

1743
01:29:04,213 --> 01:29:06,733
Speaker 9: a cold day in christ Shit, I couldn't believe how

1744
01:29:06,973 --> 01:29:09,053
Speaker 9: pleasant it felt in the stands, but maybe that was

1745
01:29:09,173 --> 01:29:10,293
Speaker 9: just the warmth.

1746
01:29:11,213 --> 01:29:16,173
Speaker 2: Yeah with the visiting Chiefs fans agree with that, but

1747
01:29:16,573 --> 01:29:18,013
Speaker 2: it was just it was so good.

1748
01:29:18,253 --> 01:29:20,133
Speaker 9: Yeah, I tell you what.

1749
01:29:21,853 --> 01:29:22,213
Speaker 3: It was.

1750
01:29:22,373 --> 01:29:26,093
Speaker 9: I was only about three rows back from the field,

1751
01:29:26,893 --> 01:29:29,293
Speaker 9: which is something we will miss with the new stadium.

1752
01:29:29,413 --> 01:29:31,453
Speaker 9: So yeah, I mean it was a very intimate experience.

1753
01:29:31,733 --> 01:29:34,213
Speaker 9: But the thing that really struck me was looking at

1754
01:29:34,293 --> 01:29:38,053
Speaker 9: the Chiefs players after the game. They looked like broken men.

1755
01:29:38,133 --> 01:29:40,493
Speaker 9: They were just so genuinely devastating.

1756
01:29:41,253 --> 01:29:42,533
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was.

1757
01:29:42,653 --> 01:29:42,893
Speaker 14: It was.

1758
01:29:43,253 --> 01:29:43,533
Speaker 4: It was.

1759
01:29:43,573 --> 01:29:46,853
Speaker 2: It had kind of test match qualities, I think, a

1760
01:29:46,933 --> 01:29:49,933
Speaker 2: low scoring game where you really every point is saving.

1761
01:29:50,053 --> 01:29:50,213
Speaker 3: You know.

1762
01:29:50,973 --> 01:29:53,173
Speaker 2: Anyway, we always get told off for talking too much

1763
01:29:53,173 --> 01:29:55,853
Speaker 2: about it, so we need we didn't go on any further.

1764
01:29:55,933 --> 01:29:58,293
Speaker 2: We've reminded everyone that once again they had the champions.

1765
01:29:58,893 --> 01:30:01,933
Speaker 2: After the last year's disastrous season, they've turned things around

1766
01:30:01,973 --> 01:30:02,773
Speaker 2: in the best way possible.

1767
01:30:02,853 --> 01:30:03,373
Speaker 3: But never month.

1768
01:30:03,533 --> 01:30:07,573
Speaker 2: Okay, Kito is the capital of It is a place

1769
01:30:07,653 --> 01:30:09,413
Speaker 2: I've never been. I would love to go, and it

1770
01:30:09,533 --> 01:30:13,773
Speaker 2: is the second highest capital in the world after Lapauz

1771
01:30:14,093 --> 01:30:17,013
Speaker 2: in Bolivia, just down the road. So how dramatic is

1772
01:30:17,053 --> 01:30:18,413
Speaker 2: the landscape in Keto?

1773
01:30:19,213 --> 01:30:24,533
Speaker 9: I reckon flying into Keto is topographically gripping but also

1774
01:30:24,733 --> 01:30:28,973
Speaker 9: really quirky because, like, visually it's fabulous, but because the

1775
01:30:29,093 --> 01:30:32,133
Speaker 9: city is situated nearly three thousand meters above sea level,

1776
01:30:32,693 --> 01:30:36,573
Speaker 9: the descent on final approach feels really underdone.

1777
01:30:37,013 --> 01:30:38,893
Speaker 4: You think, oh, yeah, is that it?

1778
01:30:40,493 --> 01:30:43,333
Speaker 9: But yeah, the layout of the city jack is just

1779
01:30:43,493 --> 01:30:48,373
Speaker 9: so intriguing. It's like huddled in this long, sinuous valley

1780
01:30:48,453 --> 01:30:52,253
Speaker 9: of volcanoes, just wrapped around the foothills of the Andes.

1781
01:30:52,773 --> 01:30:56,533
Speaker 9: It stretches for sixty kilometers Keito, but it's only six

1782
01:30:56,653 --> 01:31:00,533
Speaker 9: kilometers wide. The other interesting thing not all the volcanoes

1783
01:31:00,573 --> 01:31:04,493
Speaker 9: are dormant, some are just snoozing, So that sense of

1784
01:31:04,613 --> 01:31:08,013
Speaker 9: living on the edge adds to the density of Quito's

1785
01:31:08,093 --> 01:31:09,093
Speaker 9: eye catching appeal.

1786
01:31:09,733 --> 01:31:13,053
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's amazing. Now the old town in Ketos really

1787
01:31:13,253 --> 01:31:14,053
Speaker 2: is acclaimed, isn't it.

1788
01:31:14,093 --> 01:31:14,133
Speaker 3: What?

1789
01:31:14,253 --> 01:31:14,413
Speaker 2: Why?

1790
01:31:14,493 --> 01:31:14,533
Speaker 3: So?

1791
01:31:15,373 --> 01:31:19,293
Speaker 9: Yeah, it's a heaving historical quarter, so well preserved, and

1792
01:31:19,453 --> 01:31:21,293
Speaker 9: it was the first city in the world to actually

1793
01:31:21,413 --> 01:31:25,053
Speaker 9: score World Heritage status. Most of it was built in

1794
01:31:25,093 --> 01:31:28,693
Speaker 9: the seventeenth century. I reckon that Plaza San Francisco was

1795
01:31:28,733 --> 01:31:32,773
Speaker 9: my favorite spot for people watching. Just everything happened in

1796
01:31:32,853 --> 01:31:36,133
Speaker 9: that plaza and it's fringed with all these low slung

1797
01:31:36,293 --> 01:31:40,173
Speaker 9: merchant shops. Also home to San Francisco Monastery and Church,

1798
01:31:40,453 --> 01:31:44,813
Speaker 9: which is actually the largest religious complex in Latin America.

1799
01:31:45,253 --> 01:31:51,093
Speaker 9: The monks actually brewed South America's first beer from that site.

1800
01:31:51,933 --> 01:31:54,813
Speaker 9: All the Old Town churches, as you could imagine, Jack,

1801
01:31:54,973 --> 01:31:59,933
Speaker 9: are gilded showstoppers. It's like their interiors were fire hosed

1802
01:32:00,053 --> 01:32:04,173
Speaker 9: and goldly from tip to toe. You'll also want to

1803
01:32:04,213 --> 01:32:08,293
Speaker 9: hang out in the Lost in Time Ronda, a sleepy

1804
01:32:08,453 --> 01:32:12,893
Speaker 9: cobbled stones lane which is just lined with colonial houses

1805
01:32:12,973 --> 01:32:16,533
Speaker 9: and then after dark it transforms into this open air

1806
01:32:16,613 --> 01:32:18,853
Speaker 9: fiesta of throbbing salsabars.

1807
01:32:19,093 --> 01:32:20,733
Speaker 5: Really good and.

1808
01:32:21,093 --> 01:32:23,653
Speaker 2: Culture vultures rave about the old town name.

1809
01:32:24,213 --> 01:32:28,893
Speaker 9: Yeah, it's crammed with all of that colonial architecture, gorgeous

1810
01:32:29,053 --> 01:32:32,493
Speaker 9: museums as well. I went to a place called Casa Alabado,

1811
01:32:32,733 --> 01:32:35,693
Speaker 9: and the artworks in the pottery there are the six

1812
01:32:36,053 --> 01:32:41,853
Speaker 9: thousand years old because one of the indigenous people of Ecuador,

1813
01:32:41,933 --> 01:32:46,773
Speaker 9: the Valdivia, they created the oldest pottery in the America

1814
01:32:47,013 --> 01:32:50,733
Speaker 9: six and a half thousand years ago. I loved exploring

1815
01:32:50,773 --> 01:32:53,133
Speaker 9: all of the traditional merchants in the Old Town Jack.

1816
01:32:53,213 --> 01:32:57,693
Speaker 9: I went into a religious statue repairer store and he

1817
01:32:57,893 --> 01:33:01,813
Speaker 9: was working on a correct statue of Jesus the rest

1818
01:33:01,853 --> 01:33:02,853
Speaker 9: as a firefighter.

1819
01:33:05,013 --> 01:33:05,733
Speaker 20: Ok true.

1820
01:33:07,973 --> 01:33:08,853
Speaker 2: Statue, do we think?

1821
01:33:09,013 --> 01:33:09,213
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1822
01:33:09,773 --> 01:33:13,213
Speaker 9: He said that it had been passed down through several generations,

1823
01:33:13,253 --> 01:33:14,293
Speaker 9: so it was quite old.

1824
01:33:15,213 --> 01:33:15,533
Speaker 2: Okay.

1825
01:33:16,213 --> 01:33:21,533
Speaker 9: I meet her local shaman or shaman, Senora Laila. So

1826
01:33:21,693 --> 01:33:25,493
Speaker 9: she operated the store called El secreto Dallas Plantis and

1827
01:33:26,133 --> 01:33:30,813
Speaker 9: once again for generations her family have been specializing in

1828
01:33:30,973 --> 01:33:34,973
Speaker 9: the store healing with plants and potions, and it was

1829
01:33:35,053 --> 01:33:37,893
Speaker 9: quite amazing. Her shop sort of resembled a cross between

1830
01:33:38,533 --> 01:33:43,093
Speaker 9: a tropical greenhouse and a medieval apothecary. But man, she

1831
01:33:43,333 --> 01:33:44,973
Speaker 9: was doing a brisk business that day.

1832
01:33:46,013 --> 01:33:48,173
Speaker 2: Amazing. We should have got on to give Rood a

1833
01:33:48,173 --> 01:33:50,293
Speaker 2: few tips for giving us orchards run before we live.

1834
01:33:50,573 --> 01:33:50,773
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1835
01:33:51,213 --> 01:33:55,733
Speaker 2: So l Secret Delta is the secret of the fruits. Yeah, okay,

1836
01:33:55,853 --> 01:33:57,253
Speaker 2: I can imagine that part of the world that could

1837
01:33:57,293 --> 01:34:01,293
Speaker 2: be interesting. Any any sort of standout experiences for you

1838
01:34:01,373 --> 01:34:01,973
Speaker 2: in the in the.

1839
01:34:02,013 --> 01:34:07,333
Speaker 9: Market, Yeah, obviously, the tropical fruit is what a god best,

1840
01:34:07,453 --> 01:34:11,493
Speaker 9: you know, just the sheer array of exotic fruits. The

1841
01:34:11,533 --> 01:34:13,133
Speaker 9: food stores are really good if you want to just

1842
01:34:13,253 --> 01:34:18,573
Speaker 9: initiate yourself with some local dishes. So I tried inchibollado,

1843
01:34:18,653 --> 01:34:21,693
Speaker 9: which is like a fish stew, and even better than that.

1844
01:34:22,453 --> 01:34:26,973
Speaker 9: Lo crau de parpis a potato soup with avocado and cheese.

1845
01:34:27,413 --> 01:34:28,213
Speaker 20: I thought of you, Jack.

1846
01:34:28,373 --> 01:34:31,853
Speaker 9: The chocolate, Oh my god, the chocolate and quito. So

1847
01:34:32,253 --> 01:34:36,853
Speaker 9: traditionally Ecuadorian cacao was just exported. They didn't do much

1848
01:34:36,893 --> 01:34:39,893
Speaker 9: with it themselves. Now that's changed, so they've got this

1849
01:34:40,373 --> 01:34:45,053
Speaker 9: flourishing army of artisan chocolate producers, and that's really reaped

1850
01:34:45,093 --> 01:34:49,573
Speaker 9: up Quito's reputation in the single origin States very quickly.

1851
01:34:49,933 --> 01:34:55,613
Speaker 9: Chicha Chicha dehora. It's this age old Andean fermented alcoholic

1852
01:34:55,813 --> 01:35:00,293
Speaker 9: drink that was made from germinated corn. Traditionally, women would

1853
01:35:00,373 --> 01:35:04,973
Speaker 9: choose the corn to kick start the fermentation process. Thankfully

1854
01:35:05,133 --> 01:35:08,013
Speaker 9: my brew was german anted mechanically, or at least I

1855
01:35:08,173 --> 01:35:08,733
Speaker 9: hope it was.

1856
01:35:09,333 --> 01:35:12,893
Speaker 2: It is very good, Okay, yeah, it sounds amazing.

1857
01:35:12,973 --> 01:35:13,133
Speaker 7: Though.

1858
01:35:13,293 --> 01:35:16,333
Speaker 2: Were this sort of standout street eats that you enjoyed?

1859
01:35:16,893 --> 01:35:17,893
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was intrigued.

1860
01:35:17,933 --> 01:35:20,053
Speaker 9: I had to ask what people were munching on, and

1861
01:35:20,213 --> 01:35:22,573
Speaker 9: all these vocals were binging on. What I found out

1862
01:35:22,653 --> 01:35:26,293
Speaker 9: were bollon, which are these fried balls of unripe green

1863
01:35:26,773 --> 01:35:30,413
Speaker 9: plantain and then they meshed them with cheese and pork.

1864
01:35:30,533 --> 01:35:33,813
Speaker 9: So for a month on the go, that seemed to

1865
01:35:33,853 --> 01:35:39,013
Speaker 9: be the go too. Another fabulous thing to try in

1866
01:35:39,093 --> 01:35:43,333
Speaker 9: the sweet treat department is for me. Now, these are

1867
01:35:43,373 --> 01:35:47,573
Speaker 9: like meringue cones. It's this fluffy meringue cream and you

1868
01:35:47,693 --> 01:35:50,773
Speaker 9: get it in a white flavor range guava, BlackBerry, and

1869
01:35:50,933 --> 01:35:53,613
Speaker 9: it served in ice cream cones. But I didn't buy

1870
01:35:53,693 --> 01:35:56,213
Speaker 9: them from the cafes, not from the street venders, because

1871
01:35:56,253 --> 01:36:00,853
Speaker 9: the hygiene standards looked very dubious, but really interesting. So

1872
01:36:00,973 --> 01:36:03,493
Speaker 9: it's like hardened ice cream.

1873
01:36:04,453 --> 01:36:07,413
Speaker 2: Yeah okay, but it tastes like marne yes.

1874
01:36:07,373 --> 01:36:09,093
Speaker 9: Yeah, not as sweet as down merings.

1875
01:36:09,213 --> 01:36:10,373
Speaker 8: Yeah, really pleasing.

1876
01:36:11,653 --> 01:36:13,453
Speaker 2: That sounds good. Okay. So did you make it to

1877
01:36:13,533 --> 01:36:15,853
Speaker 2: the middle of the world just north of Keto to

1878
01:36:15,933 --> 01:36:16,893
Speaker 2: stand on the equator?

1879
01:36:17,773 --> 01:36:19,973
Speaker 9: Yes, I did, Jack, and of course it was the

1880
01:36:20,013 --> 01:36:24,453
Speaker 9: inspiration for the nation's name Ecuador Equator. Just twenty five

1881
01:36:24,573 --> 01:36:27,333
Speaker 9: k north of Tito. There's a monument, there's a museum,

1882
01:36:27,413 --> 01:36:30,853
Speaker 9: and there's people balancing eggs on their tip on the

1883
01:36:31,253 --> 01:36:36,813
Speaker 9: xatorial line. Of course, there is a slight awkward reality.

1884
01:36:37,613 --> 01:36:41,173
Speaker 9: The fiach dear Desic Commission three hundred years ago. They

1885
01:36:41,293 --> 01:36:45,653
Speaker 9: determined the position of the line, but GPS data has

1886
01:36:45,693 --> 01:36:48,493
Speaker 9: proven they were two hundred and forty meters off beam.

1887
01:36:49,213 --> 01:36:56,293
Speaker 9: One job, you go, interestingly, there is a nearby archaeological

1888
01:36:56,453 --> 01:36:59,213
Speaker 9: site on the hilltop. Okay, so that's this pre Yinka

1889
01:36:59,333 --> 01:37:03,813
Speaker 9: site called Katakia. It's about, I don't know, a thousand

1890
01:37:03,893 --> 01:37:07,053
Speaker 9: years old or so, and they got it spot on

1891
01:37:07,493 --> 01:37:10,533
Speaker 9: this ancient astronomical observatory.

1892
01:37:10,733 --> 01:37:11,213
Speaker 17: How about that?

1893
01:37:11,533 --> 01:37:12,413
Speaker 2: Isn't that interesting?

1894
01:37:12,693 --> 01:37:12,933
Speaker 8: Yeah?

1895
01:37:13,413 --> 01:37:17,893
Speaker 2: I find stuff like that absolutely fascinating and I just

1896
01:37:17,973 --> 01:37:22,053
Speaker 2: love it. Like you say, one jobaging the first guy

1897
01:37:22,133 --> 01:37:25,853
Speaker 2: to turn on the GPS and be like, oh, there's

1898
01:37:25,893 --> 01:37:27,813
Speaker 2: something wrong with the machine. Turn it off and turn

1899
01:37:27,813 --> 01:37:29,653
Speaker 2: it on again, Peter, and we'll hang on. No, this

1900
01:37:29,773 --> 01:37:33,653
Speaker 2: isn't yeah, Okay, there's a lot of interest in Ecuador's

1901
01:37:33,693 --> 01:37:36,733
Speaker 2: new president. Hey, the politics in Ecuador so interesting. Daniel

1902
01:37:37,053 --> 01:37:39,733
Speaker 2: Noel Bora. I follow him on Instagram and I have

1903
01:37:39,853 --> 01:37:42,693
Speaker 2: to say that his Instagram feed is very unlike most

1904
01:37:42,773 --> 01:37:46,533
Speaker 2: politicians whom I follow. So how did the security situation

1905
01:37:46,853 --> 01:37:47,973
Speaker 2: strike you? Inquital?

1906
01:37:48,413 --> 01:37:51,093
Speaker 9: Yeah, it was interesting timing because he was being inaugurated

1907
01:37:51,133 --> 01:37:53,133
Speaker 9: when I was there last month, and of course he's

1908
01:37:53,173 --> 01:37:55,293
Speaker 9: on a mission to smash the drug hotels and all

1909
01:37:55,293 --> 01:37:58,573
Speaker 9: of its tentacles and all the corruption. Streete crime has

1910
01:37:58,693 --> 01:38:03,133
Speaker 9: been an issue in Quito. But your hotel and your guides,

1911
01:38:03,253 --> 01:38:05,653
Speaker 9: they will warn you of any areas to avoid. Just

1912
01:38:05,773 --> 01:38:09,413
Speaker 9: take sense all precautions, turning your backpack into a into

1913
01:38:09,493 --> 01:38:14,293
Speaker 9: a front packs, don't hold your phone in your hand

1914
01:38:14,333 --> 01:38:17,733
Speaker 9: while you walk, and you'll be absolutely fine. You'll feel

1915
01:38:17,893 --> 01:38:18,533
Speaker 9: so welcome.

1916
01:38:18,613 --> 01:38:20,333
Speaker 5: The locals are just delightful.

1917
01:38:20,373 --> 01:38:22,053
Speaker 9: It's a truly enchanting city.

1918
01:38:22,813 --> 01:38:24,893
Speaker 2: Amazing. Yeah, it's it's funny what they say. There's a

1919
01:38:24,973 --> 01:38:27,453
Speaker 2: there's a line in Spanish that translates to like, don't

1920
01:38:27,533 --> 01:38:30,693
Speaker 2: show papaya, don't make things tempting, you know, So don't

1921
01:38:30,693 --> 01:38:32,693
Speaker 2: if you've got to, like, you know, got a vintage

1922
01:38:32,773 --> 01:38:37,213
Speaker 2: roll xing hanging off your arm and weighing you down.

1923
01:38:37,653 --> 01:38:40,653
Speaker 2: Probably not a great idea. Yeah, okay, that makes a

1924
01:38:40,693 --> 01:38:42,213
Speaker 2: lot of sense. It sounds like you had the best time.

1925
01:38:42,293 --> 01:38:46,053
Speaker 2: I'm deeply burning with you this morning, mate. Yeah. For

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Speaker 2: more tips on to deal onto on delving into the

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Speaker 2: delights of Keito. Mike's article is up at newstalks hed

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Speaker 2: b dot co dot MZ, forward slash Lifestyle before midday

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Speaker 2: that new music from Lord. We've got your book Picture

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Speaker 2: this week, including a really interesting book looking at the

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Speaker 2: history of Apple the company and its production in China,

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Speaker 2: a lot of which is of course under scrutiny given

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Speaker 2: the current President of the United States and his thoughts

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Speaker 2: towards trading with China. So we'll tell you about that

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Speaker 2: very shortly. Right now, it is eleven.

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Speaker 1: Thirty getting your weekend started. It's Saturday Morning with Jack

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Speaker 1: Team on News.

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Speaker 3: Talks ed B.

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Speaker 2: Let's let's know what news Talks B. You were Jack

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Speaker 2: Tame through the midday. Then Jason pine is behind the

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Speaker 2: mic with Weekends Sport. Sale GP is returning to Tarmackie Makoto,

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Speaker 2: Auckland Piney can be very interesting given the context of

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Speaker 2: some of our top sailors in the America's Cup in

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Speaker 2: the relationship with sale GP. But it's so good to

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Speaker 2: see it back in the city.

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Speaker 13: Absolutely right.

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Speaker 2: You can't wait.

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Speaker 13: It was such a spectacular success earlier this year and

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Speaker 13: back for another year next year. The interesting part of

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Speaker 13: this is that at the moment it's a one year thing,

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Speaker 13: so they've said, yep, twenty twenty six is coming back.

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Speaker 13: But what you're hearing in the background, is that this

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Speaker 13: is something that they want to make an annual event. Obviously,

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Speaker 13: they've got to find the money in the host city

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Speaker 13: and hopefully there's some moves towards that. But you know,

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Speaker 13: in terms of an injection into the local economy, retail, hospitality, etc.

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Speaker 13: It certainly ticked all those boxes. There will be fourteen

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Speaker 13: teams next year instead of the twelve they had this year. Conditions,

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Speaker 13: a great spectator craft, good fan experience. Look, I'm a fan,

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Speaker 13: as you can probably tell. So let's hope that they

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Speaker 13: do manage to make it something which comes back again

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Speaker 13: and again and again and.

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Speaker 2: Hot of Fennewa carpety rugby Unions postpone matches this weekend.

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Speaker 2: It don't they'd be going ahead given the weather. To

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Speaker 2: be perfectly honest anyway, But yeah, I mean, once again,

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Speaker 2: are really you know, really concerning reports about referee abuse

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Speaker 2: and grassroots rugby and you're going to die this this afternoon.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, We've had a week of you know, all sorts

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Speaker 13: of opinion about this, but I do want to really

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Speaker 13: find out from those who do it on days like today,

1971
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Speaker 13: and you're right, check parts of the country are bretting

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Speaker 13: in Clement weather wives. But those who volunteer their time

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Speaker 13: to go back to referee games and often junior games

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Speaker 13: as well. The incident that led to this was a

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Speaker 13: secondary school's match, So you know that tells you the

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Speaker 13: kind of context that we're talking about here. So I really,

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Speaker 13: after midday want to talk to those who volunteer their

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Speaker 13: time and how they deal with that and weather. It's

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Speaker 13: got to the point where they've said, you know what,

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Speaker 13: I've got better things to do with my time, then

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Speaker 13: turn up and be abused by people who aren't brave

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Speaker 13: enough to pick up a whistle themselves. So yeah, go

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Speaker 13: to delve into that after midday. Do have to say

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Speaker 13: Jack that tomorrow between one and two in this very

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Speaker 13: studio where I sit, Scott Robertson will be across the

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Speaker 13: desk All Blacks coach are going to join us for

1987
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Speaker 13: an hour and I said, hey, mate, you're keen to

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Speaker 13: take calls, I'll take some calls. So taking your calls

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Speaker 13: tomorrow has got Robertson between one and too, So a

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Speaker 13: little plug for the show tomorrow for you.

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Speaker 2: Am I do I get preferential treat absolutely, you know

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Speaker 2: the hotel and then I can maybe put on a

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Speaker 2: voice or maybe give my wife to call it on

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Speaker 2: our behalf or something as well. All calls are welcome

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Speaker 2: or calls are welcome, very good. I look forward to that.

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Speaker 2: And good on Raiser for taking calls. I always think

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Speaker 2: it's great when people are positions of you know, responsibility,

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Speaker 2: whether they be politicians or leaders or black coaches, are

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Speaker 2: prepared to, you know, take questions from the people who.

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Speaker 13: Totally agree about the role they do. Let's tomorrow between

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Speaker 13: one and one and two. But yeah, but of a

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Speaker 13: less savory topic today after to Mad Dave. But we'll

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Speaker 13: give it a crow.

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Speaker 2: But such an important one. I think events, I think

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Speaker 2: absolutely critical. I often think if we're gonna say, like

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Speaker 2: just how you know, why on earth would someone volunteer

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Speaker 2: their time when these are the kind of potential things

2008
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Speaker 2: that you you might be exposed to, you might experience,

2009
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Speaker 2: you know. I just I think it's important, really important subject.

2010
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Speaker 2: Jason Pine was or will be with this afternoon taking

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Speaker 2: over the microphone from midday to day with weekend Sports.

2012
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Speaker 2: So before midday, we're going to play you a good

2013
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Speaker 2: couple of tracks from Lord's new album, and next up

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Speaker 2: your book picks for this weekend twenty three to twelve.

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Speaker 1: Saturday Morning with Jack Tame Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio

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Speaker 1: powered by News Talk ZEDB.

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Speaker 2: Twenty one to twelve. You're with Jack Tame on Newstalks EDB.

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Speaker 2: Time to get our book picks for this weekend, and

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Speaker 2: Catherine Rains, our book reviewer, is here with her two

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Speaker 2: reading recommendations. Calder Catherine, Good morning, Jack. Okay, Let's begin

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Speaker 2: with Apple and China by Patrick McGee.

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Speaker 21: So, Patrick McGee is a Financial Times journalist, and he's

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Speaker 21: looked into Apple and their development and their design and

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Speaker 21: manufacturing and their relationships and supply chain within China, which

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Speaker 21: also happens to be the company's second largest consumer market.

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Speaker 21: And he sort of chats under the leadership of both

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Speaker 21: Steve Jobs and Tom sorry Tom Cook over the last

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Speaker 21: two decades, and they've caught hondreds of billions of dollars

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Speaker 21: into the Chinese market over numerous years. And the book

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Speaker 21: starts actually in Consumer Day in twenty thirteen, where the

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Speaker 21: Chinese state television criticized Apple for supposedly triadic treating Chinese

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Speaker 21: consumers poorly, and President g had been a president for

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Speaker 21: thirty six hours when the state sponsors media happened about Apple,

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Speaker 21: and then you know, three weeks later, Tim Cook issues

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Speaker 21: an apology in Mandarin on Apple's China TV. And it's

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Speaker 21: just the really interesting start to the book. Is it

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Speaker 21: kind of builds behind you know, using China as a

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Speaker 21: production base in selling iPhones and this you know, cultural

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Speaker 21: or lack of cultural understanding about China, and they kind

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Speaker 21: of almost, as he describes it, sleeps walk seet walked

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Speaker 21: into this and about leveraging their cheap labor and their

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Speaker 21: poor rule of law and this, you know, the extraordinary

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Speaker 21: economies of scale that come with China. And Apple had

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Speaker 21: worked with partners before, but then they start working with

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Speaker 21: one in China and they end up creating the electronics

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Speaker 21: manufacturing giant now fox Con, who could basically, in their terms,

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Speaker 21: turn fields into factories within months. And Chinese firms offered

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Speaker 21: Apple whatever they want, and it was about the value

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Speaker 21: of working with Apple and learning, and it's just it's

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Speaker 21: really interesting the way that Apple's sort of reliance on

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Speaker 21: China makes it kind of turn a blind eye to

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Speaker 21: all sorts of things. And then of course there's Trumps

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Speaker 21: trade wars simmering in the background, and Apple finds themselves

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Speaker 21: right smack in the middle of this again after spending

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Speaker 21: what Patrick McGee claims to be two hundred and seventy

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Speaker 21: five billion dollars in China. So yeah, in that transerver's knowledge,

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Speaker 21: it's just a very interesting look at a big consumer company.

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Speaker 2: Honestly, this is this sounds like if any family member

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Speaker 2: of mine is listening right now, this sounds like a

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Speaker 2: fantastic birthday option for me. So interesting because it kind

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Speaker 2: of has the I've just said that, the you know,

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Speaker 2: kind of it's an amazing lens through which to view

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Speaker 2: the changing kind of geo political dynamics in the world day.

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Speaker 2: Like you said, you learn so much from Apple's moves,

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Speaker 2: but also Apple's experience in China. It's yeah, I think

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Speaker 2: it sounds absolutely fascinating. So that's Apple very well. Yeah

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Speaker 2: by by Patrick McGee, very good. Next up something completely different,

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Speaker 2: The Good Father by a Liam McElvaney.

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Speaker 21: So this starts as a very ordinary August Day and

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Speaker 21: it destroys the lives of Gordon and Sarah Rudford and

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Speaker 21: it's late summer on the west coast of Scotland and

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Speaker 21: their seven year old young boy Rory is enjoying the

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Speaker 21: beach outside the family home with their dog, Bonnie, and

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Speaker 21: then Bonnie comes home alone and Gordon and Sarah look

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Speaker 21: down the beach and they can't find any sign of them,

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Speaker 21: and the police are called, and there's questions and extent

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Speaker 21: of searches and more questions, and then hours pass and

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Speaker 21: days and months. So the story is about this relationship

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Speaker 21: and real termal when Gordon and Sarah attempt to deal

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Speaker 21: with the consequences of Rory's disappearance, and about being parents

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Speaker 21: and husband wife, and they're both grappling with what could

2082
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Speaker 21: be worse than your child disappearing and replaying this what

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Speaker 21: was a really ordinary day where Rory had done something

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Speaker 21: he often did, which was playing near their house with

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Speaker 21: their dog, and they felt like they lived in a

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Speaker 21: safe community in their small town, and he always returned home,

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Speaker 21: and so they have that guilt and fear, and of

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Speaker 21: course the gossip and what their neighbors are thinking, and

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Speaker 21: they're just left in this complete limbo of uncertainty and

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Speaker 21: waiting and wandering, along with the very strained relationships with people,

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Speaker 21: including the police, as they're searching for Rory and they

2092
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Speaker 21: just can't find the answers to their questions and I'm

2093
01:47:42,613 --> 01:47:45,653
Speaker 21: not understand anymore because they will destroy the story. Really

2094
01:47:46,093 --> 01:47:49,093
Speaker 21: really good crime novel about family, life and loss and

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Speaker 21: the emotions and twists and turns that will keep you

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Speaker 21: hooked to.

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Speaker 5: The very end.

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Speaker 2: Superb Okay, great little recommendation, Thank you so much, Kath.

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Speaker 2: And That's the Good Father by Liam mcelvaaney. Apple and

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Speaker 2: China by Patrick McGee is Catherine's first pick for us

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Speaker 2: this weekend. Both of those will of course be on

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Speaker 2: the news talks He'd Be website. We've got new music

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Speaker 2: for you. Lord has just released Virgin, her latest album,

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Speaker 2: so we've chosen a couple of songs to play uniques

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Speaker 2: right now. It's sixteen to twelve, giving you.

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Speaker 1: The inside scoop on all you need to us Saturday

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Speaker 1: Mornings with Jack Dame and bpewre dot co dot nz

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Speaker 1: for high quality supplements used Talks He'd Be.

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Speaker 18: Might have been for again Bad feel like I don't

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Speaker 18: have the answers this piece of madness overheads Lady carry Me.

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Speaker 2: It is the first track on her brand new album,

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Speaker 2: dropped yesterday. Virgin is the name of the album of

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Speaker 2: Stelle Clifford. Our music reviewer has been keenly anticipating the

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Speaker 2: release and has shut herself away from the world, I

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Speaker 2: hope so that you can listen to it.

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Speaker 10: And she's with this this morning, Hey Hello, and it's

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Speaker 10: kind of one of those albums you need to take

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Speaker 10: a beat just to absorb everything that is going on

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Speaker 10: in virgin I don't know if you remember when she

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Speaker 10: released Mellow Drama. The way she released it was suddenly.

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Speaker 10: I remember late one night, I was out searching for

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Speaker 10: the green lights around Auckland City that apparently pops up

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Speaker 10: and once you've found them, you'd get to hear like

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Speaker 10: the full first track from that album, and you're like,

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Speaker 10: she just she kind of callsed a frenzy, which is

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Speaker 10: exactly what she's managed to do with the album as well.

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Speaker 10: So she kind of suddenly out.

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Speaker 15: Of nowhere, like we haven't.

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Speaker 10: She's been keeping pretty low key for four years, and

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Speaker 10: then suddenly there's this new song and she's like, hey, everyone,

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Speaker 10: meet me at this park in New York, and so

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Speaker 10: of course everybody goes to the point where police end

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Speaker 10: up sending people home, and then she just does that

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Speaker 10: kind of random lord dancing while performing to her new

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Speaker 10: big single, and it's everywhere over social media. So suddenly

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Speaker 10: just I think quite easy in such a catchy way

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Speaker 10: to go hello, there's some new music coming from the

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Speaker 10: wood and really create that hype around it, exactly like

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Speaker 10: green Light, and I think it sort of says a

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Speaker 10: lot for how Virgin does have similarities to her melodrama

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Speaker 10: album in its musicality and context, so Solar Power that

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Speaker 10: came out in twenty one, very She'll leave Me Alone.

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Speaker 10: I'm at the beach vibes that would have been in

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Speaker 10: the public eye too much that has gone part that

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Speaker 10: we're not there anymore. We are back either on the

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Speaker 10: dance floor just letting go and releasing our feelings because

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Speaker 10: it is all in this album and something I've really

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Speaker 10: enjoyed with her growing storytelling and writing. This one is

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Speaker 10: very personal. So all the stories and all the connection

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Speaker 10: to the music are from her own personal experience and

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Speaker 10: what she has been going through. As you do when

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Speaker 10: you sort of hit that mid twenties into your late twenties, happens.

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Speaker 10: Relationships change, you try new things, go different places, and

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Speaker 10: they all have an effect on who you are as

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Speaker 10: a person. So she's used that, you know, this is

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Speaker 10: I think sometimes she's written music from a perspective or

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Speaker 10: like a dream kind of sequence of what might happen

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Speaker 10: or you know, like yeah, observation, but sort of from

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Speaker 10: the sideline as opposed to we're well and truly in

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Speaker 10: where she's aten. Obviously, she's had a lot of chats

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Speaker 10: around how she's had some real issues with her own

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Speaker 10: body image, having issues, eating disorder, stuff that she's gone through,

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Speaker 10: and so writing all that kind of angsty stuff that

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Speaker 10: she's working through and releasing ours in this thrial cathartic way,

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Speaker 10: and her music is just exciting to hear. It's raw

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Speaker 10: and it's angsty. It's still got that real quirky you

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Speaker 10: know how, like you think you know where a song

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Speaker 10: is going, and then Lord always manages to do kind

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Speaker 10: of like this left turn on something, whether it's the

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Speaker 10: melody or the way that the percussion comes in quite

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Speaker 10: the drums percussion. Throughout this album, you do get some

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Speaker 10: soft stuff with It's a couple of ballads in here,

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Speaker 10: but they still have that bills that she she she

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Speaker 10: does with the crescendo and I like for in an interview,

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Speaker 10: she called it her brevardo, trying out a bit of

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Speaker 10: her masculine size, like what is it to just be

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Speaker 10: like it doesn't matter. I'm not buying into this. Women

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Speaker 10: have to be in a box of what their size

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Speaker 10: is or how they judge themselves. Like what if I

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Speaker 10: did feel manly for a change, do I wanted to

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Speaker 10: have that confidence?

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Speaker 15: I suppose.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, nothing understated in this album.

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Speaker 2: No, it's good. I love that she just goes in

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Speaker 2: a different direction because she kind of did that, like

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Speaker 2: with the last one with Melodrama after Pure Hero and

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Speaker 2: she kind of, you know, went on another completely. I

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Speaker 2: think her like she should, yeah.

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Speaker 10: Growing, and I think her fans grow with her as

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01:52:57,613 --> 01:52:59,733
Speaker 10: opposed to go and people want the same thing you

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Speaker 10: did when you were sixteen.

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Speaker 2: Exactly, We're okay.

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Speaker 10: Like she's done that really well, Like it's okay to

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Speaker 10: evolve and grow as a person. So she takes her

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Speaker 10: fans with her as opposed to everyone craving for this

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Speaker 10: other thing she does.

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Speaker 16: She worked with a different.

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Speaker 10: Producer, Jimmy Stack, and I think that's been.

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Speaker 16: A good challenge for her.

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Speaker 10: He questioned her and he changed things around and and

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Speaker 10: she went with that and worked with it, and I

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Speaker 10: think it just She's worked with Joel for Jack and

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Speaker 10: antonof Look for quite a few albums, and I think

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Speaker 10: just having that refresh of someone else looking at your music.

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Speaker 10: She's like, I've got to follow my instincts here and

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Speaker 10: just have a little go at something else. And I

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Speaker 10: think that challenge means she's pushed herself in wanting to

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Speaker 10: tell these stories really great phrasing, her lyrics like the

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Speaker 10: one in Hammer, I'm ready to feel like I don't

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Speaker 10: have the answers. There's pieces of the madness over our

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Speaker 10: heads that is becoming an adult. So like we all

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Speaker 10: go when we go, oh yeah, I know I'm an

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Speaker 10: adult now, Like we're all just fake in it, aren't we?

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Speaker 2: Like, I mean, she's always been a poet. Like her

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Speaker 2: lyrics are amazing. Yeah, I think I think she's incredible. Yeah, great, interesting,

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Speaker 2: But I think I'm going to have to find a

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Speaker 2: moment and really like lock myself off so I can

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Speaker 2: have a good listen.

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Speaker 3: So what did you give?

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Speaker 2: Virgin?

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Speaker 10: This is a ten out of ten for me. I

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Speaker 10: think she's really done a great job. It's a great

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Speaker 10: shape shifter is going to take you out. You'll love

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Speaker 10: the catchy there's a percussion raf and it's dominated by

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Speaker 10: drums and really about transforming and growing and evolving.

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Speaker 5: It's good.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, oh, so good. All right, really looking forward to this.

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Speaker 2: Thanks so much to Stelle. We really appreciate it. Steale Clifford.

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Speaker 2: She had been, of course desperately anticipating this album, but

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Speaker 2: still she's only had twenty four hours to give it

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Speaker 2: a good listen. Ten out of ten for Lord's Virgin

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Speaker 2: sounds like it was well worth a listen. So we

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Speaker 2: will have a listen to one of those tracks in

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Speaker 2: a couple of minutes. Right now it is seven to twelve.

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Speaker 2: We're back in a second on New Stalks.

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Speaker 2: That'd be poor, I'll producer. Helen is that around a

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Speaker 2: Helen is like an absolute ride or die Dolly fan,

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Speaker 2: all of your feedback this morning, all of your text

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Speaker 2: beat on Codon ed Ford slash Jack, I'm gonna leave

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Speaker 2: you with Lord. Her new album is Virgin This is

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Speaker 2: Shape Shifter. See you next week, not.

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