1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,160 Speaker 1: Heather Dukeles L Bendebraders of US in just about ten 2 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:06,080 Speaker 1: minutes time, we're thereabouts. Now we're almost halfway at the 3 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 1: at the halfway point for the year. Of course, question 4 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 1: is how different is the investing environment now versus the 5 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 1: start of the year. And to answer that question we 6 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 1: have Sam Dickey, Officier Funds with US. 7 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:17,280 Speaker 2: Ay, Sam, Heather, now are you so very well? 8 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 1: Thank you so remind us of the economic backdrop and 9 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:21,599 Speaker 1: the investing environment as we started the year. 10 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 2: Yes, So if we look at it through growth the 11 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 2: lenses of growth, inflation, interest rates, and equities to set 12 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:33,160 Speaker 2: up on January one was the market was still pretty 13 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:35,599 Speaker 2: cautious about US economic growth, for example, so they were 14 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:38,920 Speaker 2: only forecasting a poultry one percent growth for the year. 15 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 2: Inflation had been tamed, but not completely conquered. So global inflation, 16 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 2: you remember back in the day it was at a 17 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 2: high of ten percent, and it was at about five 18 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:49,720 Speaker 2: and a half percent of the start of the year. 19 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 2: Bond investors had a slightly bitter year in twenty twenty three, 20 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 2: so they were feeling a little bit less grim after 21 00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 2: the worst year in one hundred and fifty years the 22 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 2: year before, but still nothing to write home about men. Finally, 23 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 2: on the share market, those investors were feeling pretty good 24 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 2: about life as they entered twenty twenty four. Remember the 25 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 2: strong rebound in equity markets in twenty twenty three and 26 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:14,319 Speaker 2: within that, remember the twenty twenty three stock market performance 27 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 2: was driven by a narrow bunch of stocks. And I'm 28 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 2: sure you remember the magnificent seven Heather. 29 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:21,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, totally. What does the backdrop look like now, though. 30 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:24,560 Speaker 2: It's shifted a bit so through those shame the same lenses. 31 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:28,959 Speaker 2: The US economy has just surprised positively all year, so 32 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:31,760 Speaker 2: economists are now expecting two and a half percent growth 33 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:34,680 Speaker 2: for that all important economy, up from that one percent 34 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:38,679 Speaker 2: initial forecast. Global inflation has fallen a little bit further, 35 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:41,759 Speaker 2: but still not fully wrestled to the ground. Bond investors 36 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 2: are still waiting for their day in the sun, and 37 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 2: returns are approximately flat and shar market investors are enjoying 38 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 2: another solid six months. So global equities are up twelve percent, 39 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 2: But there is one little wrinkle heater. So you and 40 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 2: I took back in March and April about the nice 41 00:01:57,360 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 2: broadening out of the stock market rally after that very 42 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:03,559 Speaker 2: narrow rally in twenty twenty three, which was funny enough, 43 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 2: correlated with that nice continuous positive surprise in the US 44 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 2: economic growth. Well right now that US economic growth is 45 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 2: still solid, but it's no longer accelerating, and the stock 46 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 2: market rally is again really really narrow, so it's only 47 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:20,240 Speaker 2: been driven by less than a handful of stocks now, 48 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 2: so Google, Apple, and n Video. 49 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 1: That's interesting. Remind us of the themes we've seen. What 50 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 1: are the investments that are working and what are the 51 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 1: ones that are not? 52 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 2: You and I have talked about it most of them, 53 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 2: but if we just picked three over the last six 54 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:35,239 Speaker 2: months we've talked about so you and I talked about 55 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 2: how Google and Apple were considered AI laggards or losers, 56 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 2: which seemed absurd, and the lesson there is when high 57 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 2: quality companies are called losers, investors should basically pay attention. 58 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:49,639 Speaker 2: The second thing is we talked about how commodity prices 59 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:53,240 Speaker 2: and doctor copper in particular is a really good barometer 60 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 2: of the health of the economy, and incidentally that price 61 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 2: has fallen a bit lately after a very strong run earlier. 62 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:02,520 Speaker 2: And the other thing we talked about was how geopolitics 63 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 2: are of course sad and elections garner a heck of 64 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 2: a lot of headlines. They typically don't derail long term 65 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:10,640 Speaker 2: stock market investors. 66 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 1: Why I mean, Sam, is it normal for a backdrop 67 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 1: to change so much? 68 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 2: It's not, It's not normal. And if you look back 69 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 2: over say the last twenty years or so, and if 70 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 2: we used analyst forecasts of US GDP for the year ahead, 71 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 2: normally those forecasts will move around by maybe half a percent, 72 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 2: maybe a percent until they land on the final actual number. 73 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 2: So that sort of think about that as forecasting era. 74 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 2: Since COVID analysts are having a nightmare forecasting US and 75 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 2: global GDP growth, so the difference between the initial forecast 76 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 2: and that final number can be as wide as two 77 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 2: two and a half percent, so three to four times 78 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 2: the normal forecasting era. 79 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 1: What does that mean for investors? 80 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 2: I think it means you stick to your knittings, so 81 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 2: you take a really long term view, and you invest 82 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 2: in high quality, long term growth companies, and you shouldn't 83 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 2: normally be swayed by macroeconomic forecasts because they're normally wrong, 84 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 2: but especially so now in a post COVID world. 85 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, brilliant advice. Thank you very much, Sam, Appreciate it 86 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 1: as always talked again next week that Sam Dickey official funds. 87 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 2: For more from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive. Listen live to 88 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:22,159 Speaker 2: news talks. It'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow 89 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:23,920 Speaker 2: the podcast on iHeartRadio