1 00:00:06,667 --> 00:00:10,387 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Vine 2 00:00:10,707 --> 00:00:12,027 Speaker 1: from newstalk ZEDB. 3 00:00:12,787 --> 00:00:16,067 Speaker 2: Sale gp hits San Francisco this weekend for event five 4 00:00:16,147 --> 00:00:19,507 Speaker 2: of season four. The Black Foils bouncing back from double 5 00:00:19,547 --> 00:00:23,267 Speaker 2: disappointment in Auckland and Sydney to finish second in Los 6 00:00:23,307 --> 00:00:27,027 Speaker 2: Angeles last weekend and moved to third in the championship standings, 7 00:00:27,027 --> 00:00:29,947 Speaker 2: three points behind Australia and second with Great Britain a 8 00:00:30,027 --> 00:00:34,147 Speaker 2: further two points ahead at the top. Black Foil's strategist 9 00:00:34,307 --> 00:00:37,427 Speaker 2: Live McKay's with us out of San Francisco. Love, thanks 10 00:00:37,427 --> 00:00:39,587 Speaker 2: for joining us. You won two fleet races in LA, 11 00:00:39,707 --> 00:00:42,547 Speaker 2: finished second and another two then second in the finals. 12 00:00:42,547 --> 00:00:45,867 Speaker 2: So what went so much better in LA than in 13 00:00:45,907 --> 00:00:47,107 Speaker 2: Auckland and Sydney. 14 00:00:49,387 --> 00:00:54,347 Speaker 3: Yeah, Hey, nice to chat with you. I mean, you're right, 15 00:00:54,387 --> 00:00:57,987 Speaker 3: it was a bit of a comeback from Sydney in Auckland, 16 00:00:58,067 --> 00:01:00,187 Speaker 3: but it was I mean, it was a different weekend. 17 00:01:00,267 --> 00:01:04,187 Speaker 3: We had lighter conditions and have done a lot of 18 00:01:04,227 --> 00:01:07,907 Speaker 3: work on our starting. Yeah, finally got to LA and 19 00:01:07,987 --> 00:01:10,747 Speaker 3: was able to execute a lot of that work. So yeah, 20 00:01:10,787 --> 00:01:13,707 Speaker 3: I think it's just it's always a completely different venue, 21 00:01:13,747 --> 00:01:18,387 Speaker 3: different scene when we change events, But it was just 22 00:01:18,387 --> 00:01:21,107 Speaker 3: stoke that some of we've been doing a lot of 23 00:01:21,107 --> 00:01:24,027 Speaker 3: hard when in that area, so we're just happy that 24 00:01:24,147 --> 00:01:25,867 Speaker 3: we were able to execute some of those. 25 00:01:26,147 --> 00:01:28,707 Speaker 2: Yeah, what does the hard work that you're putting into 26 00:01:28,747 --> 00:01:30,467 Speaker 2: your starts consist of? 27 00:01:32,867 --> 00:01:37,867 Speaker 3: So with sale GPS, it's quite challenging, and the fact 28 00:01:37,867 --> 00:01:40,227 Speaker 3: that we get no time on the water, but with 29 00:01:40,627 --> 00:01:45,547 Speaker 3: you get unlimited basically that data and analysis. So these 30 00:01:45,587 --> 00:01:48,827 Speaker 3: different softwarees that we use and run through all the data, 31 00:01:48,947 --> 00:01:51,547 Speaker 3: we have a lot of meetings about it, and get 32 00:01:51,587 --> 00:01:54,267 Speaker 3: all the video that you could ever want. So a 33 00:01:54,267 --> 00:01:58,587 Speaker 3: lot of that's to do with communication, analysis, understanding what 34 00:01:58,707 --> 00:02:01,827 Speaker 3: each of us can see on the boat, and just 35 00:02:02,507 --> 00:02:06,507 Speaker 3: looking into that time on distance, so looking at you know, 36 00:02:06,547 --> 00:02:08,587 Speaker 3: obviously that max by coming off the top of the 37 00:02:08,587 --> 00:02:11,427 Speaker 3: line paid a few times for us, and then that 38 00:02:11,587 --> 00:02:13,947 Speaker 3: midpack trying to get off the line at the past 39 00:02:13,987 --> 00:02:17,387 Speaker 3: point also paid. So each start is completely different. And 40 00:02:17,467 --> 00:02:20,227 Speaker 3: because we're now doing eight races per AMN, you get 41 00:02:20,267 --> 00:02:23,307 Speaker 3: a lot of chances at it. And I think we're 42 00:02:23,307 --> 00:02:26,747 Speaker 3: doing a good job an LA of reviewing between each 43 00:02:26,787 --> 00:02:30,347 Speaker 3: start and being dynamic with that approach. So I mean 44 00:02:30,387 --> 00:02:32,627 Speaker 3: we're here now in San Francisco and it will be 45 00:02:32,747 --> 00:02:35,907 Speaker 3: completely different again this weekend, but yeah, hoping to build 46 00:02:35,947 --> 00:02:36,147 Speaker 3: on it. 47 00:02:36,467 --> 00:02:38,347 Speaker 2: Just before we look at the weekend ahead. You mentioned 48 00:02:38,347 --> 00:02:41,067 Speaker 2: all the data and video that's available to you. With 49 00:02:41,307 --> 00:02:44,507 Speaker 2: so much information there, how do you drill down into 50 00:02:44,547 --> 00:02:47,347 Speaker 2: what is really important and most useful for you? 51 00:02:49,707 --> 00:02:53,067 Speaker 3: I think because we've done you know, we're a few 52 00:02:53,107 --> 00:02:55,827 Speaker 3: seasons and now we can really see what's going to 53 00:02:55,867 --> 00:02:58,187 Speaker 3: be the priority at what venue. So we'd been to 54 00:02:58,747 --> 00:03:03,587 Speaker 3: Los Angeles before, we'd seen that direction and how the 55 00:03:03,747 --> 00:03:09,307 Speaker 3: different corese geometry plays out. Each venu is very different 56 00:03:09,427 --> 00:03:12,867 Speaker 3: in the way of the length the size of the 57 00:03:12,907 --> 00:03:17,787 Speaker 3: start bots, and that really affects how eleven boats can behave. 58 00:03:17,987 --> 00:03:21,347 Speaker 3: So the start is super challenging because you don't know 59 00:03:21,387 --> 00:03:24,507 Speaker 3: how you know, the decision making of ten other teams 60 00:03:24,547 --> 00:03:27,187 Speaker 3: and how that will work. But I think we're seeing, 61 00:03:27,267 --> 00:03:30,467 Speaker 3: you know, we've got so much history from the few 62 00:03:30,547 --> 00:03:34,547 Speaker 3: years that you do start to see patterns and we 63 00:03:34,587 --> 00:03:38,547 Speaker 3: can really review that between events and bring up past 64 00:03:38,627 --> 00:03:43,267 Speaker 3: years to then really apply it for the upcoming race weekend. 65 00:03:43,307 --> 00:03:47,107 Speaker 3: And that's a huge benefit of having the coaches booth 66 00:03:47,427 --> 00:03:49,787 Speaker 3: live and they can see what's going on. They have 67 00:03:49,827 --> 00:03:52,747 Speaker 3: a birdseye view of how the start's playing out, and 68 00:03:52,787 --> 00:03:55,507 Speaker 3: they're speaking to you in real time. So yeah, we're 69 00:03:55,507 --> 00:03:59,747 Speaker 3: continuing to develop and really push that area and we're 70 00:03:59,787 --> 00:04:03,867 Speaker 3: starting to see some improvement there. But again, you can't 71 00:04:03,867 --> 00:04:05,107 Speaker 3: get ahead of yourself. 72 00:04:05,507 --> 00:04:07,667 Speaker 2: So for the first time going to sail on back 73 00:04:07,707 --> 00:04:11,427 Speaker 2: to back weekends, does that present a unique challenge in 74 00:04:11,467 --> 00:04:14,747 Speaker 2: itself or actually is there an advantage to being able 75 00:04:14,787 --> 00:04:17,587 Speaker 2: to sell so soon after you lasted. 76 00:04:20,227 --> 00:04:22,627 Speaker 3: I think there's definitely pros and ponds. It's been a 77 00:04:22,707 --> 00:04:25,507 Speaker 3: huge push for our shore crew to you know, you've 78 00:04:25,507 --> 00:04:27,547 Speaker 3: got to pull apart the whole bow and then they've 79 00:04:27,587 --> 00:04:30,107 Speaker 3: all been trucked up here to Sanforan and put back 80 00:04:30,107 --> 00:04:33,667 Speaker 3: together again, and it's been a big push there. But 81 00:04:33,907 --> 00:04:35,987 Speaker 3: we've got on the water for practice racing today and 82 00:04:36,027 --> 00:04:39,187 Speaker 3: it's you know, all the eleven boats are in great shape. 83 00:04:39,227 --> 00:04:43,867 Speaker 3: So that's been a challenge. I think for us as sailors, 84 00:04:43,347 --> 00:04:46,787 Speaker 3: it's pretty awesome opportunity for the first time to do this. 85 00:04:47,987 --> 00:04:51,227 Speaker 3: You really lack getting hours on the water, so to 86 00:04:51,347 --> 00:04:55,387 Speaker 3: do it, you know, in quick succession, it really allows 87 00:04:55,507 --> 00:05:00,227 Speaker 3: us to build on those you know, weaknesses and really 88 00:05:00,267 --> 00:05:03,427 Speaker 3: step forward. I think all teams are taking an advantage 89 00:05:03,427 --> 00:05:05,507 Speaker 3: of it. So yeah, it's just the team who does 90 00:05:05,507 --> 00:05:06,187 Speaker 3: it the fastest. 91 00:05:06,467 --> 00:05:08,947 Speaker 2: Now I've seen it reported live that San Francisco could 92 00:05:08,947 --> 00:05:12,827 Speaker 2: produce the most extreme conditions of the twenty twenty five 93 00:05:12,867 --> 00:05:15,787 Speaker 2: soyle GP calendar. So how will that change the way 94 00:05:15,827 --> 00:05:16,747 Speaker 2: you sail this event? 95 00:05:18,867 --> 00:05:22,467 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean we saw a real mix out there today. 96 00:05:22,467 --> 00:05:25,987 Speaker 3: It actually started off at four or five knots and 97 00:05:26,227 --> 00:05:28,987 Speaker 3: the breeze didn't come in for quite a while, so 98 00:05:29,467 --> 00:05:32,947 Speaker 3: I think it's a really changeable venue. And once the 99 00:05:32,947 --> 00:05:36,867 Speaker 3: breeze does come in, it definitely feels very full on it. 100 00:05:37,867 --> 00:05:42,547 Speaker 3: It's very tidal, quite chaotic, and the breeze is very 101 00:05:42,587 --> 00:05:46,467 Speaker 3: split and it's super strong. In some parts, you know, 102 00:05:46,507 --> 00:05:49,867 Speaker 3: you're seeing twenty twenty five knots and then and others 103 00:05:49,547 --> 00:05:53,747 Speaker 3: it's twelve knots. So that's a really challenging race course, 104 00:05:53,827 --> 00:05:58,987 Speaker 3: and I think it's great viewing, but it's very dynamic. 105 00:05:59,107 --> 00:06:00,867 Speaker 3: It's saying I think you see a lot of crashes 106 00:06:00,907 --> 00:06:03,827 Speaker 3: out there, a lot of near misses, and you know 107 00:06:03,987 --> 00:06:07,707 Speaker 3: a lot of high speed intersections. So it's it's definitely challenging, 108 00:06:07,907 --> 00:06:10,587 Speaker 3: especially for my role in the aspect. But it's a 109 00:06:10,667 --> 00:06:13,387 Speaker 3: pretty awesome racecourse to get into. 110 00:06:13,667 --> 00:06:15,827 Speaker 2: I was going to ask you about the strategist role 111 00:06:16,027 --> 00:06:18,307 Speaker 2: in conditions like these, do you have to make more 112 00:06:19,027 --> 00:06:21,707 Speaker 2: instinctive decisions and conditions like these? 113 00:06:24,547 --> 00:06:27,827 Speaker 3: Yes. I think we were just discussing it now in 114 00:06:27,867 --> 00:06:33,387 Speaker 3: our debrief. Actually, the intersections they change very last minute 115 00:06:33,707 --> 00:06:38,267 Speaker 3: because everyn's angles change a lot with the different pressures. 116 00:06:38,467 --> 00:06:41,227 Speaker 3: So yeah, it's pretty intense, to be honest, and I 117 00:06:41,267 --> 00:06:43,827 Speaker 3: think it's you know, there's quite a big swell out 118 00:06:43,867 --> 00:06:46,707 Speaker 3: there today as well, so it's making Eyon's lives pretty 119 00:06:46,747 --> 00:06:49,787 Speaker 3: hard crossing the boat, and you know, the flight control 120 00:06:49,907 --> 00:06:53,507 Speaker 3: is pretty full on, and I think for me it's 121 00:06:53,827 --> 00:06:57,147 Speaker 3: you know, learning that eleven boats on the courses is 122 00:06:57,227 --> 00:06:59,627 Speaker 3: a lot, so just making sure I keep my head 123 00:06:59,667 --> 00:07:02,387 Speaker 3: out and then trying to get ahead of everything. I 124 00:07:02,427 --> 00:07:07,467 Speaker 3: think this type of racing is amazing, it's awesome. It's 125 00:07:07,507 --> 00:07:11,267 Speaker 3: super intense, but the biggest challenge is getting far enough ahead. 126 00:07:13,067 --> 00:07:15,507 Speaker 3: You know, the race is so I mean, you know, 127 00:07:15,547 --> 00:07:18,347 Speaker 3: you're looking at ten to fourteen minutes and you're going 128 00:07:18,347 --> 00:07:20,747 Speaker 3: at really high speed, so it's really trying to get 129 00:07:20,747 --> 00:07:25,747 Speaker 3: ahead of what's happening, where the pressure is and trying 130 00:07:25,787 --> 00:07:29,787 Speaker 3: to give that in basic form to Pete, so yeah, 131 00:07:29,827 --> 00:07:32,307 Speaker 3: he can obviously make a good decision and. 132 00:07:32,227 --> 00:07:34,387 Speaker 2: Just finally you're fitting in. As you mentioned before, four 133 00:07:34,507 --> 00:07:37,027 Speaker 2: races a day now used to be three, so a 134 00:07:37,067 --> 00:07:42,667 Speaker 2: lot more racing time. How much does that change things? 135 00:07:42,867 --> 00:07:45,147 Speaker 3: I think it changes a lot for the grinders, to 136 00:07:45,147 --> 00:07:48,907 Speaker 3: be honest. I think that's the biggest They are working 137 00:07:48,947 --> 00:07:52,347 Speaker 3: hard up there and it's pretty full on definitely in 138 00:07:52,387 --> 00:07:56,627 Speaker 3: this venue, to be honest. But it changes things in 139 00:07:56,707 --> 00:07:59,227 Speaker 3: the way of I mean on the first day, you 140 00:07:59,267 --> 00:08:03,227 Speaker 3: can definitely rack up a lot of points, well not 141 00:08:03,347 --> 00:08:05,067 Speaker 3: rack up a lot of points because you get low 142 00:08:05,147 --> 00:08:08,427 Speaker 3: scoring if you have a bad day. Yeah, it's you 143 00:08:08,427 --> 00:08:10,427 Speaker 3: can definitely lose it on the first day, I think 144 00:08:10,507 --> 00:08:13,787 Speaker 3: more so with the four races, so really just trying 145 00:08:13,827 --> 00:08:18,787 Speaker 3: to stay consistent with their approach. And then yeah, I 146 00:08:18,787 --> 00:08:21,947 Speaker 3: think going into Sunday is a different day again, and 147 00:08:21,987 --> 00:08:25,507 Speaker 3: you just have so many chances with those three races 148 00:08:25,547 --> 00:08:29,267 Speaker 3: before the finals, so it's just fighting for every position. 149 00:08:30,027 --> 00:08:31,987 Speaker 2: Love all the best, thanks for joining us the day before. 150 00:08:32,227 --> 00:08:34,947 Speaker 2: I hope, I hope San Francisco goes as well as 151 00:08:35,267 --> 00:08:37,387 Speaker 2: Los Angeles did last week. In fact, maybe even just 152 00:08:37,427 --> 00:08:39,947 Speaker 2: slightly better. And you get a victory in San fran 153 00:08:40,027 --> 00:08:41,427 Speaker 2: Thanks for taking the time for a chat to us 154 00:08:41,467 --> 00:08:44,587 Speaker 2: this afternoon. Yeah no, thanks for having me on as 155 00:08:44,667 --> 00:08:46,947 Speaker 2: Liv mckaye. She's strategist with the black falls of course, 156 00:08:47,067 --> 00:08:51,347 Speaker 2: as they hit event five in season four San Francisco. 157 00:08:51,787 --> 00:08:54,667 Speaker 2: They bounced back terrifically well last weekend in Los Angeles 158 00:08:54,667 --> 00:08:57,507 Speaker 2: after disappointing regattas at home in Auckland and then the 159 00:08:57,547 --> 00:09:00,347 Speaker 2: following one in Sydney much much better in LA. It 160 00:09:00,427 --> 00:09:02,907 Speaker 2: was great to see, so let's hope we see more 161 00:09:02,907 --> 00:09:05,947 Speaker 2: of the same when su GP San Francisco is underway 162 00:09:06,467 --> 00:09:08,987 Speaker 2: mid morning tomorrow, New Zealand Time. We'll keep you up 163 00:09:09,027 --> 00:09:12,507 Speaker 2: today with what happens tomorrow on the show tomorrow afternoon. 164 00:09:13,187 --> 00:09:16,387 Speaker 1: For more from Weekend Sport with Jason Fine, listen live 165 00:09:16,467 --> 00:09:19,787 Speaker 1: to News Talk st B weekends from midday or follow 166 00:09:19,827 --> 00:09:21,427 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio.