1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,800 Speaker 1: So horror scenes on Bondi Beach overnight. At least twelve 2 00:00:02,800 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 1: are dead and twenty nine are injured after a mass 3 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:08,760 Speaker 1: shooting at the Sydney hot Spot. Two people are in custody. 4 00:00:09,039 --> 00:00:12,160 Speaker 1: The Prime Minister, Anthony Albanezi, has responded to criticism that 5 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 1: he has not done enough to prevent anti Semitism in Australia. 6 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:19,840 Speaker 2: We've continued to act, We've continued to work with Jewish 7 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:25,440 Speaker 2: community leaders. We've continued to take all the advice from 8 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 2: the security agencies to put in place special measures and 9 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 2: will continue to do so. 10 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 1: Here's the uncle of a security guard shot on the shoulder. 11 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 3: Knowing thought Sunday night you'll be spending it at a 12 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 3: hospital where two terrorists have gone on a massacre to 13 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 3: try killers and introduced people as possible and hopefully there's 14 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:47,479 Speaker 3: a way back, but I'm really doubtful. 15 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:50,959 Speaker 1: Australia Corrisbona Murrayolds's with us Homas. 16 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:52,440 Speaker 4: Good morning, Heather. 17 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 1: Was there any warning whatsoever that something like this might happen? 18 00:00:57,360 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 4: Well? One of the two gunmen, we understand and was 19 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 4: known to police. Now whether he was just on the 20 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:08,840 Speaker 4: radar as a bit of a low level threat or 21 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 4: was he something more senis to more serious and they're 22 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 4: going to be so many questions asked along those lines. 23 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 4: Why didn't the police, the security agencies as is the 24 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:25,119 Speaker 4: domestic terrorism outfit in Australia. It just beggars belief that 25 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:28,680 Speaker 4: this was not on the radar of these agencies. Having 26 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 4: said that, Heather, maybe that is too radicalized men in 27 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 4: Sydney's West because they raided the home of one of 28 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:39,959 Speaker 4: them last night at Bonnie Rigg. We don't know what 29 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 4: was the outcome of that raid. One of the gunment, 30 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:45,839 Speaker 4: by the way, was killed, the other is in hospital. 31 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 4: It was shot by police. We understand now. Have these 32 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 4: guys been radicalized online by someone from some overseas actor, 33 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 4: have they done it themselves? Are they just weirdos? We 34 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 4: simply don't know. At the stage there's so much information 35 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 4: out there still. Police are trying to pull it all together. 36 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 4: But as you say, look, twelve dead, twenty nine injured. 37 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 4: The death toll may have climbed overnight because some of 38 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:14,800 Speaker 4: the injured Heather are serious to critical. The police are 39 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 4: not releasing any further information at this stage of the morning. 40 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 4: There will be a news conference later this morning, but 41 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 4: at this stage that's all we've got to go on. Now. 42 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 1: Is there or is there not a third shooter, because 43 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 1: there has been talk of that. 44 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 4: There's nothing to indicate at this stage this morning that 45 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:35,240 Speaker 4: there was a third shooter. There were two of them, 46 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 4: of course pictured, one of them disarmed by the guy 47 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 4: who's been identified Heather as a fruit shop owner from 48 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 4: southern Sydney. He's apparently snuck through the car park and 49 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 4: as we can see online, he's just tackled the gunman, 50 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 4: jumped him, tackled them, got him in a bear hut, 51 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 4: grabbed the gun off them and the gunman scuttled away. 52 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 4: So at this stage, you know, there's very I've seen 53 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:01,080 Speaker 4: those stories about the speculation of a third government. The 54 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 4: police are saying nothing about that. Will no doubt get 55 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 4: that information later on this morning. But as I say, 56 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:11,920 Speaker 4: one of the guys has been identified, Navid Akram named 57 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:14,639 Speaker 4: as one of the shooters. Police raided his home last night, 58 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 4: and at this stage there's still many, many, many questions 59 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 4: to be answered. I mean, you know, the political response 60 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 4: from the Prime Minister, from the premiere, the police response 61 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 4: as well. The Asia boss was up last night saying 62 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 4: that one of these guys was on the radar, the 63 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 4: other one that apparently was not so so many holes 64 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 4: to be filled this morning. 65 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, Now, how much trouble is Anthony Albanesi and given 66 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 1: what has been happening in your country with an anti 67 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 1: Semitism in the last few years, also the statements from 68 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 1: the US and from Benjamin nettin Yahoo about him. 69 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, well it remains to be seen. I mean, I'm 70 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 4: not sure what Albanizi can do himself. I'm not sure 71 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 4: what any political leader can do with this sort of thing. 72 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 4: I mean, it's not as though the government hasn't joined 73 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 4: the opposition in condemning what's happened here in Australia, the 74 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 4: attacks on synagogues, the attacks on homes and businesses. It's 75 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 4: not an Albanizi's purview to stop that. I mean, that's 76 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 4: up to police. But you know, it's not a new 77 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:21,600 Speaker 4: criticism of the Prime minister and this will only amplify it. 78 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:25,039 Speaker 4: And you know, of course thoughts turned Heather to Port 79 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:28,359 Speaker 4: Arthur April nineteen ninety six when that lunatic went on 80 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:32,719 Speaker 4: a rampage, shot thirty five people dead. Now this is 81 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 4: another scale altogether. This has got religious political overtones. It 82 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 4: is on a scale we've not seen here. We've not 83 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:48,280 Speaker 4: seen this in Australia. Ten dead, twenty nine injured, two fruitcakes, 84 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 4: just opening five. For those who know Bondai Beach, it's 85 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 4: the northern end, Heather, it's up there, and yesterday was 86 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:57,920 Speaker 4: the first day of Hummaker, the Jewish holiday celebrated every 87 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 4: year's an eight day festival of light. There were kids 88 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:05,479 Speaker 4: down in the park below that footbridge and they were 89 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 4: with their families and we don't know how many children 90 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 4: among the dead, Heather. We don't know how many kiddies 91 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 4: were wounded. You know, you scratch your head and you 92 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:18,360 Speaker 4: just think, how the hell could this happen here in Australia. 93 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:20,600 Speaker 4: But it's happened. It's just dreadful, it is. 94 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 1: Thank you very much for your time, mate, Murray Old's 95 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:24,279 Speaker 1: Australia correspondent. 96 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 4: For more from the Mic Asking Breakfast, listen live to 97 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:30,799 Speaker 4: news talks. It'd be from six am weekdays, or follow 98 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 4: the podcast on iHeartRadio.