1 00:00:01,800 --> 00:00:08,640 Speaker 1: The issues, the interviews and the inside Ryan Bridge new 2 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 1: for twenty twenty four on the early edition with Smith City, 3 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 1: New Zealand's furniture beds and a play a store us dogs. 4 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:17,639 Speaker 2: It'd be good morning. It is six after five. It 5 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:20,279 Speaker 2: is Tuesday. Great to have your company. The three strikes 6 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:23,640 Speaker 2: laws getting an update. It'll catch more crooks apparently. We'll 7 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:27,160 Speaker 2: tell you about that. Plus Ihumacho half a million dollars 8 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 2: on a committee going nowhere. The Australia correspondent Donna Tomoro's 9 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:33,519 Speaker 2: with us. That senator who had a hissy fit at 10 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:37,239 Speaker 2: Charles yesterday. What's to fall out? Plus construction on the 11 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 2: first Road of Netwell. The first new road of national 12 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:44,839 Speaker 2: significance is underway. Will tell you where and how quickly 13 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 2: they'll get it done. Seven after five. 14 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 3: The agenda. 15 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 2: It is Tuesday, the twenty second of October. The fighting continues. 16 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 2: Israel issuing evacuation orders for twenty two regions in Lebanon. 17 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 4: Targets of these attacks for branches of the Akad al 18 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 4: Hassan Association, a financial association, and this institution has been 19 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 4: under US sanction since two thousand and seven. It has 20 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:13,679 Speaker 4: been accused by American officials of being a kova for. 21 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 2: Hasboala, the idea of saying around sixty projectiles have entered 22 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 2: Israel from Lebanon. That's just in the last day. Hamas 23 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 2: is set to elect a new leader in March following 24 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:26,480 Speaker 2: the death of Yaya Sinwa. Until then, it'll be run 25 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 2: by a five member committee. Even once they do decide 26 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 2: who will be the new leader of Hamas, they won't 27 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 2: tell you. Widespread power outages and parts of Cuba have 28 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 2: entered their fourth day, prompting protests in the streets. Without electricity, 29 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 2: we have nothing. 30 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:43,960 Speaker 5: We don't have food, we don't have a way to work. 31 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:46,839 Speaker 2: There's there a tropical storm coming to which they're worried about. 32 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 2: Boeing shares have risen. This as the first good bit 33 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 2: of Boeing news I think we've had since I've been here. 34 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 2: Boeing shares a prison and it's not even that good. 35 00:01:56,560 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 2: Risen four percent following a new contract strike workers are 36 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 2: set to vote on so they haven't actually voted on 37 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 2: it yet. Nothing has been signed, but the market's obviously 38 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:10,640 Speaker 2: anticipating something will happen. It contains a thirty five percent 39 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 2: pay increase over four years and an eleven thousand New 40 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 2: Zealand dollar bonus and an enhanced retirement plan for those workers. 41 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 2: They're about thirty three thousand of them. Eight after five. 42 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 3: News and Views you trust to start your day. 43 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 1: It's early edition with Ryan Bridge and Smith City, New 44 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 1: Zealand's furniture beds and a flying store. 45 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:31,920 Speaker 3: News Talk ZIB. 46 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:33,080 Speaker 6: Get a Tuesday. 47 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:36,920 Speaker 2: Consultants, gravy train, you know the this is what the 48 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 2: government said they would stop, put a halt to. We've 49 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:41,640 Speaker 2: got new numbers on that this morning. This is from 50 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:46,239 Speaker 2: the Herald Slash z B. Data released by the Public 51 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:50,679 Speaker 2: Service Commission shows spending has decreased, which is good. It's 52 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 2: now down to nine hundred and forty million dollars in 53 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 2: the year to July. And how does that compare to 54 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 2: the year prior, Well it was one point twenty seven 55 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 2: billion dollars, so it is downslow, but still a whack 56 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:04,079 Speaker 2: of cash, isn't it Close to a billion dollars still 57 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 2: being spent on consultants in the year. And if you 58 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:10,240 Speaker 2: look at the numbers of the public service, remember David 59 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 2: Seymour said when we get in there, we're going to 60 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 2: slash the public service by fifteen percent. By you know, thousands, 61 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 2: tens of thousands of people. If you actually look at 62 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:24,920 Speaker 2: the numbers the public servant, the full time equivalence is 63 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 2: only down three point three percent since December twenty twenty three. 64 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 2: Three point three percent. It's about two thousand workers. There 65 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 2: are seven thousand roles that have been cut, but many 66 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 2: of them were vacant, so it is still a behemoth. 67 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 2: About sixty three thousand public servants still working, are they 68 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 2: working from home? Whatever? A ten minutes after five, I 69 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 2: have to take you to the US because the whole 70 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 2: campaign is just falling in well. I mean, it's always 71 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 2: been a bit nuts, but it's that time of the 72 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 2: campaign when the candidates are tired, they're nearing the end, 73 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 2: the finish line is in sight, and they're just losing 74 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 2: their minds, which Trump, you know, you could argue has 75 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 2: done from day doc anyway. So here's the thing. He's 76 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 2: narrowing the polls with Karmala Harris. He's in Pennsylvania with 77 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 2: the swing state obviously. And the issue with Pennsylvania, this 78 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 2: is why you're going to hear about it over the 79 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 2: next twenty four hours, is that their voter registration closes 80 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 2: in the next day, so you have to in order 81 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:27,599 Speaker 2: to register the vote. You have to do that in 82 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 2: the next day. So everyone is there, you know, with 83 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 2: all the man, every man and his dog kind of 84 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:37,039 Speaker 2: out in force. So here's what Trump has been saying 85 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:39,839 Speaker 2: about Karmala Harris in the last twenty four hours, basically 86 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:42,239 Speaker 2: that she's not good as vice president. 87 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 7: So you have to tell Kamala Harris that you've had 88 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:50,360 Speaker 7: enough that you just can't take it anymore. We can't 89 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:57,679 Speaker 7: stand here, your shit vice president, the worst, the worst 90 00:04:57,760 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 7: vice president. 91 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:00,599 Speaker 2: Kamala, You're fired. 92 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 3: Get the hell out of here. 93 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 7: Your fired, Get out of here. 94 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:08,279 Speaker 2: Fast forward to a different rally, and he's talking about 95 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:09,839 Speaker 2: Arnold Palmer, the golfer. 96 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:15,159 Speaker 7: This is a guy that was old man. This man 97 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 7: was strong and tough, and I refused to say it, 98 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:19,840 Speaker 7: but when. 99 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 2: He took showers with the other pros they. 100 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 7: Came out of there they said, Oh my god, that's unbelievable. 101 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 7: I had to say it. 102 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 6: I had to say. 103 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 2: Arnold Palmer's daughter Peggy has said quote it was an 104 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 2: unfortunate way to remember my father. 105 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:45,360 Speaker 3: Ryan Bridge. 106 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 2: Do you know what, It's only going to get more fun, 107 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:51,719 Speaker 2: isn't it. A couple of weeks left It's only going 108 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:55,160 Speaker 2: to get more interesting. Fifteen days to go. Nine nine 109 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 2: two is the number to text. Coming up next. The 110 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:01,920 Speaker 2: Road of National Significance that is finally getting some attention, 111 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 2: the attention it deserves. We're going to talk to the 112 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:08,919 Speaker 2: Employees and Manufacturers Association about that. Plus Ewanmato. Did you 113 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:10,919 Speaker 2: know we're spending half of it, have spent half a 114 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:13,039 Speaker 2: million dollars on a committee to try and sort it 115 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:15,920 Speaker 2: out going nowhere. We're going to talk about that at 116 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:22,720 Speaker 2: five twenty News Talks at Ben. 117 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 1: Jesse The News you Need this morning and the in 118 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 1: depth Analysis early edition with Ryan Bridge and fIF City 119 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:30,719 Speaker 1: New Zealand's. 120 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 3: Furniture Beds and a Plying Store News Talks. 121 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 2: It'd be yesterday we were talking about Air India, just 122 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 2: Air India and how many hoax bomb threats they have 123 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:41,480 Speaker 2: had come through. Now we've got stats on all the 124 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:44,719 Speaker 2: Indian carriers. I don't know why it's India, We don't 125 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:47,360 Speaker 2: No one actually really knows much about them at all. 126 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 2: There's no source to these threats yet, there's no motive 127 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 2: identified for these streets yet. But ninety hoax bomb threats 128 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:57,360 Speaker 2: have been made against Indian airlines in the past week, 129 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:01,280 Speaker 2: Just in the past week, on Saturday, there were thirty 130 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 2: hoax threats reported just in the one day. And in 131 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 2: New Zealand had a hoax did you see that on 132 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 2: the weekend with a flight going that had to land 133 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 2: in Sydney. So the regulations apparently force the airlines to 134 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 2: act on every single threat. And I suppose you can 135 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 2: understand that, can't you because you want you know, you don't. 136 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 2: I guess you don't want to take any risks and 137 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 2: you don't know what's true and what's a hoax or whatever. 138 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 2: But man, if the goal is panic and disruption, then 139 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 2: mission accomplished. 140 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 3: Ray and Bridge. 141 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 2: Quarter past five. Construction on the first road of national 142 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 2: significance is underway. Ground has been broken on the Hawk's 143 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 2: Bay Expressway, which is a twenty seven kilometer four lane 144 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 2: highway set to carry around twenty nine thousand vehicles a day. 145 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 2: It's hope starting work early, we'll get the job done sooner. 146 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 2: Alan McDonald's with the Employees and Manufacturers Association Allan, Good morning, morning, Ran, 147 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 2: Good to have you back on the show. This is 148 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 2: quite an important route. Tell us who uses it? Why 149 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 2: it's important in connecting to the port there. 150 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 8: Well, I think you've kind of nailed it just in 151 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 8: the intro. Ryan. It's important because it does link up 152 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 8: into the port and if you look at a number 153 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 8: of the roads of national significance and the number of 154 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 8: the ports and the fast track application process for consent, 155 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 8: it's showing a bit of joined up thinking where we're 156 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 8: improving access for freight and for people around the ports 157 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 8: and those critical links into some of the more critical 158 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 8: economic areas of the country's growth and infrastructure. 159 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:34,680 Speaker 2: They reckon starting early will help reduce the overall construction 160 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 2: time and they should have it done twelve to fifteen 161 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:38,679 Speaker 2: months sooner than planned. 162 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 8: Are you. 163 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 2: Quietly confident? 164 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 8: I think with all of these things that any big 165 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 8: piece of infrastructure, the quicker you get it going, the 166 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:57,079 Speaker 8: less chance for big cost overruns. I think is probably 167 00:08:57,080 --> 00:08:59,439 Speaker 8: the best way to put it, because they never get cheaper, 168 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:02,200 Speaker 8: so the longer you leave them, the more they cost. 169 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 2: Is this something that you can say, this will reduce 170 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 2: the cost of goods by x, Y and z, or 171 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:11,199 Speaker 2: this will increase efficiencies by x y Z, or is 172 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 2: it more the more of the stuff that we do, 173 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:18,719 Speaker 2: the more attractive we are to businesses, The easier and 174 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 2: cheaper things should get well. 175 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 8: Look, there will be gains both ways. I mean there 176 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 8: will be some travel time gains and things like that. 177 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:28,440 Speaker 8: There's only a thirdy case section of roads in twenty 178 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 8: nine k's so you know those gains does there, but 179 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 8: they're not huge in terms of efficiencies. But it's again, 180 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 8: it's about linking in all the various regional parts. So 181 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 8: if you look around that Roads of National Significance program, 182 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:51,880 Speaker 8: it's all designed to make connections between the economic hubs 183 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 8: of the country better so that you can move stuff around, 184 00:09:56,960 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 8: move freight between the ports, move freight through the courts, 185 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:04,079 Speaker 8: all of those good things. That just signal that we're 186 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 8: making progress on some of our infrastructure and it will 187 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:11,439 Speaker 8: be easier and better to do business and love stuff around. 188 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, big job at here, isn't there? 189 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 9: Alan? 190 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:16,359 Speaker 2: Thank you for that? Alan McDonald, the Employers and Manufacturers Association. 191 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 2: It's just gone eighteen after five Humato and the steering 192 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:21,960 Speaker 2: committee that you didn't know about. 193 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 1: Next, the first word on the News of the Day 194 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 1: early edition with Ryan Bridge and Smith City, New Zealand's 195 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 1: furniture beds and a playing store. 196 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 2: News dogs after the News at five point thirty are 197 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:37,080 Speaker 2: Australia correspondent Donald to Mayo and then just before six 198 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 2: we look at changes to the three strikes law that 199 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:43,199 Speaker 2: the government has brought and will announce this morning. Just 200 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 2: after five o'clock, we will look at that just before six. 201 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 2: It's now twenty one after five Ryan Bridge, the Maori 202 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 2: Development Minister Tama Paultucker has warned the group, this is 203 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 2: the group tasked with deciding the future of Ihumato, that 204 00:10:56,400 --> 00:10:58,680 Speaker 2: they could be shown the door if they can't find 205 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:01,559 Speaker 2: a solution. The Crown bought Humato for thirty million dollars 206 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 2: back in twenty twenty. You remember that this is to 207 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 2: end the occupation over its commercial development. They wanted to 208 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 2: build houses there. Since then, there's been a group, and 209 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 2: you may not have known this, a group of Monofenua 210 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 2: and Crown reps who have been tasked with forming a 211 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:18,719 Speaker 2: plan which must involve putting Malori harnsing on the disputed land. 212 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 2: It hasn't happened yet. Willie Jackson's ADM Minister, was a 213 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 2: Minister in charge at the time the Crown bought the land. 214 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 2: He's the current labor Malori Development spokespersonally. More than a 215 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 2: good morning in Modina Modina. Right, Hey, good to have 216 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 2: you on the show. So Tama Pawtuck has basically said, 217 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 2: if you guys can't sort your out, then I might 218 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 2: step in. 219 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:38,960 Speaker 8: Is that not fair enough? 220 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 9: Well, it's been given five years, so the actual agreement 221 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 9: was signed off in July twenty two. That's when we 222 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 9: the Crown put our representatives on. So we've put two 223 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:57,559 Speaker 9: representatives on and they were given five years. And of 224 00:11:57,679 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 9: course we want progress and all of that. But I mean, 225 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:03,319 Speaker 9: a deal is a deal, isn't it. You see this 226 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:08,960 Speaker 9: government into breaching that anything it seems with Copropa Mali. 227 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:11,720 Speaker 9: And yes we want things to happen, and of course 228 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 9: we want housing there, particularly for comart. But it's just 229 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 9: it's just the sort of weekly attack, isn't it all 230 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 9: the Ford weekly or Ford might the attack on Maori. 231 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 9: If it's not if it's not this, then it's a 232 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 9: trial Maori. If it's not this, it's treaty legislation. If 233 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:31,440 Speaker 9: it's not this, marse. 234 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 8: H. 235 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 2: But how can you before how can you be four 236 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 2: years on from the sale, you know, thirty million dollars 237 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 2: in public money, have no houses, no plan and no 238 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:43,719 Speaker 2: idea of what's going on. 239 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:46,840 Speaker 9: Well, well, one, there is I think there is a plan. 240 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 9: And two, well, people can't agree on some some things. 241 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 9: But this this was a five year agreement with the people, 242 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 9: so actually they speak very clear. We didn't sign off 243 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 9: in terms of a deal until July twenty two, and 244 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 9: the deal was a five year deal. So you know, 245 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:11,079 Speaker 9: just because you and Tama Portucker want things to happen tomorrow, 246 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 9: it doesn't always happen that way. And I think there 247 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 9: has to be some credibility shown and Marty has to 248 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:19,719 Speaker 9: be given the space to do the deal. That's the 249 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:22,439 Speaker 9: that's the reality. Now we can get all tough and say, 250 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:24,439 Speaker 9: oh you marry, he's got to get it together tomorrow. 251 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:26,959 Speaker 9: We all want housing, we all want the best for 252 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 9: the community, but let's just let's just work this through it. 253 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:33,120 Speaker 9: But they get all they have to keep running the 254 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 9: anti Marti line that this government keeps running. And that's 255 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:40,199 Speaker 9: what's incredibly disappointing. I live and not too far from 256 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 9: Ihu Marto, and people are sick of it. You know, 257 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 9: we came to a peaceful solution, but everyone will You 258 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:46,880 Speaker 9: will know. 259 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:49,559 Speaker 2: Then that the co marthaer who just want to live 260 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:53,680 Speaker 2: there in a nice house that's insulated and warm and dry, 261 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 2: you know, and here we are. 262 00:13:56,360 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 9: Nothing's hang on, hang on right the combr to the king. Okay, 263 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 9: the King was facilitating this process on behalf of the 264 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:09,280 Speaker 9: local co mar to and on behalf of everyone. And 265 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 9: of course that's what I want, and it's what the 266 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 9: local co marters want. But give them the space in 267 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 9: honor the agreement, That's all I'm saying. And if they don't, 268 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 9: if they don't hit their deadline before the agreement finishes, 269 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 9: then obviously you're into something else. But don't try cup 270 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 9: things a quarter of the way through it. I mean, 271 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 9: I know that's how you operate, Ryan, and you like 272 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 9: ones he be. Come on, mate, give the marriage a 273 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 9: fair crack. Hey, give us a bit of space, you know, 274 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:37,240 Speaker 9: deceive it opportunities I've got. 275 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 2: All right, welly, thank thank you for coming on. I 276 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 2: appreciate it. Have a good morning. Calder Williejckxon, who's the 277 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:46,120 Speaker 2: latter's nightly development spokesperson, twenty five after five News Talks 278 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:46,400 Speaker 2: he'd be. 279 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 1: The early edition full the Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered 280 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 1: by News Talks. 281 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 2: A B twenty seven After five News Talk said, be 282 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:57,760 Speaker 2: a three strikes update for you this morning. Nicole mcke's 283 00:14:57,760 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 2: put out a statement. The government's basically lowering the threshold 284 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 2: you have to meet in order to be hit with 285 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 2: the new three strikes law. Originally, for the law to 286 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 2: kick in, for you to get a strike, you had 287 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 2: to commit a crime with a prison sentence of twenty 288 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 2: four months or more, and it was the same for 289 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 2: each of the three strikes strike one, two, and three. 290 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 2: Now it's being lowered to just twelve months for the 291 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 2: first offense, So basically more criminals will be captured by 292 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 2: the first strike, and if they go on to commit 293 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 2: more serious crimes, it could mean they're locked up for good, 294 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:33,440 Speaker 2: or there's an increase in their minimum sentence. It's taking 295 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 2: away the power from the judges and the discretion that 296 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 2: they have. They say the law doesn't work, this three 297 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:41,560 Speaker 2: strikes law, because we have had it before. It's not 298 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 2: proven to reduce offending or reoffending. It's not right, it 299 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 2: doesn't rehabilitate criminals. And yet somehow I don't mind it. 300 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 2: If you can't sort yourself out after warnings one and two, 301 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 2: then why would you miraculously stop offending after the third warning? 302 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 2: You probably would, so wouldn't we all be better off 303 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 2: if that serious violent repeat offender was rather than living 304 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 2: next door to you in jail, Rayan Bridge would have 305 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 2: thought so. Twenty eight minutes after five, a quick update 306 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 2: on what's happening with the North Korean troops who were 307 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:21,240 Speaker 2: going to be fighting alongside the Russians. So North Korean 308 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 2: troops is about fifteen hundred of them, including special forces, 309 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 2: fighting alongside Russia against Ukraine, now South Korea. Their spy 310 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:33,800 Speaker 2: agency has come out and said they have landed, they 311 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 2: are over there, and they're obviously angry with Russia because 312 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 2: they don't want Russia to be engaging with North Korea 313 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 2: at all. And Putin and Kim have signed the security 314 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 2: pack back in June. So here's the thing about it. 315 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 2: The experts, military experts, army experts reckon, they're not going 316 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 2: to be any good because when was the last time 317 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 2: the North Korean troops were in combat. And what's more, 318 00:16:58,120 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 2: if you actually think about it, Korean Russian language barrier 319 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:06,639 Speaker 2: huge problem on the battlefield. So the experts reckon they 320 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:08,879 Speaker 2: won't see the front line. There's fifteen hundred of them. 321 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:13,479 Speaker 2: He'll probably be on beefed up security guards in Russia. 322 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:16,399 Speaker 2: It is twenty nine minutes after five, News Talk said B. 323 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 1: Get ahead of the headlines, Ryan Bridge, you for twenty 324 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 1: twenty four on early edition with Smith City, New Zealand's 325 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:42,240 Speaker 1: furniture beds and a planet store. 326 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 3: News Talk said B. 327 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:53,920 Speaker 2: Good morning New Zealand. Twenty four away from six, News 328 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:55,919 Speaker 2: Talk said B. We're going to get to a lawyer 329 00:17:56,040 --> 00:17:58,400 Speaker 2: on the three strikes law changes. You would have heard 330 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:00,480 Speaker 2: about them, and the News just then announced this morning. 331 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:04,199 Speaker 2: What does it mean for those first strike offenders. We'll 332 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:06,960 Speaker 2: get to that just before six o'clock In Australia. A 333 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:10,520 Speaker 2: couple of things to tick off with our Australia correspondents. 334 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:15,399 Speaker 2: The big tax on big tech is making some of 335 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:18,520 Speaker 2: what we're making a bit of progress, a bit of headway. 336 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:21,720 Speaker 2: We'll find out more about that. Also this morning we've 337 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:24,720 Speaker 2: been talking about Humato. This is the land. Remember that 338 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:28,160 Speaker 2: the government purchased for thirty million dollars in twenty twenty 339 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:32,960 Speaker 2: four years ago. This happened, Nothing has happened since. Nothing 340 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 2: of substance has happened since. And we just had Willie 341 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:38,639 Speaker 2: Jackson on to defend the committee that they set up. 342 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:40,480 Speaker 2: Did you know there was a committee set up? It's 343 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 2: got some mon Offenera representatives, it's got Crown representatives. It's 344 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:47,359 Speaker 2: so far cost apparently half a million dollars for this 345 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:51,520 Speaker 2: steering committee and they've steered it nowhere. They are in 346 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 2: fact not in a grants on any way forward, which 347 00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:58,240 Speaker 2: is a great shame because there are some you know, 348 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:02,240 Speaker 2: particularly elderly members of that EWE who would like to 349 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 2: live there, but there's no houses to do. So this 350 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:08,359 Speaker 2: from Peter, Good morning, Ryan, Ehu Marto helps illustrate the 351 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 2: futility of trying to run public affairs using divisive ethnic politics. 352 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:16,439 Speaker 2: Nothing good ever comes of that. Policies that deliberately target 353 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:19,359 Speaker 2: people based not on need but on skin color and 354 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 2: the like always end up in the same way. That 355 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 2: is failure. Thanks Peter. Twenty two away from six ray Bridge, 356 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 2: and we're going to our reporters around the country. Callum 357 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 2: Proctors and Dnedan Callum, good morning morning, Ryan. Now year 358 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:38,080 Speaker 2: two million dollars a year for a pair of long 359 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:42,679 Speaker 2: term o target university birth cohort studies. That's right. 360 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 10: This is the Daneedan Multidisciplinary Health and Development Study in 361 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 10: the christ Church Health and Development Study under the One Umbrella. 362 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 10: Now they will receive this government funding of two million 363 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:55,679 Speaker 10: dollars per year for the next seven years. The studies 364 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:59,200 Speaker 10: have been following thousands of babies from birth over the 365 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:03,199 Speaker 10: last half a century. It's data featuring as far as 366 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 10: a recent episode of The Kardashians, So it must be 367 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:09,880 Speaker 10: worth it. Dunedin Study director Miaana Theodore says the fundings 368 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:12,680 Speaker 10: for research which has proven benefits in New Zealand. She 369 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:15,639 Speaker 10: says the data brings insights to health, the environment and 370 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 10: social issues. 371 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:16,920 Speaker 8: Yeah. 372 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 2: It is always off quoted, isn't it? Do you know 373 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:20,440 Speaker 2: anyone in it? 374 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:22,440 Speaker 3: My sister, isn't it? 375 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:23,040 Speaker 9: There you go? 376 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:25,800 Speaker 10: She was one of those nineteen seventy babies that have 377 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:26,880 Speaker 10: been here followed since birth. 378 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 2: Fascinating, isn't it? 379 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:27,959 Speaker 8: Hey? 380 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:28,880 Speaker 2: How's the weather today? 381 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:32,119 Speaker 10: You scattered rain for Daneda, but clearing this morning to 382 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 10: fine breaks this afternoon, light wines and sixteen today. 383 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 2: Thanks carm Claire Sherwoods and christ Church this morning. Clear 384 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:42,359 Speaker 2: the death of real estate agent Young Faibao. The trial 385 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 2: now underway. 386 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:46,679 Speaker 11: It sure is underway, Ryan, fifteen months after Yan Feibao 387 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 11: went missing while she was working as a real estate 388 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:52,200 Speaker 11: agent in the christ Church suburb of Hornby. The opening 389 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:55,000 Speaker 11: statements from the Crown and defense have now been heard 390 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 11: at the High Court. Chinese national Tin Jun Chao is 391 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:02,360 Speaker 11: being tried for her. Yesterday we heard that he's accused 392 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 11: of stabbing her to death. Now the Crown says Boo 393 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:07,359 Speaker 11: was helping this man to find a house when he 394 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:10,720 Speaker 11: assaulted her as a hornby property which she had recommended. 395 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:14,399 Speaker 11: It is saying there is suggestion of a sexual motive 396 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 11: to that incident. However, Charles defense lawyer Josh McLeod has 397 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 11: described the crown evidence as muddy and says he will 398 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 11: take the next few weeks to erode the Crown's case. 399 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:26,119 Speaker 8: Right. 400 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 2: How's your weather today? Clear? 401 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 11: Cloudy, period's possible morning fog clouding over again this evening. 402 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:34,160 Speaker 11: Northeasterlies from the afternoon at a hive of eighteen. 403 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:36,960 Speaker 2: Brilliant, thank you Maxis and Wellington Hamax. This man has 404 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:38,359 Speaker 2: fallen into a sewage tank. 405 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 12: Yeah, pretty nasty business. Friday morning we received a tip 406 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 12: that a man had a bit of a nasty accident 407 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:49,639 Speaker 12: in rural or Turkey. Thankfully he was unhurt because it 408 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:52,760 Speaker 12: could have easily ended badly. As disgusting as it sounds, 409 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:55,639 Speaker 12: he's spoken to our newsroom now Mark Humphrey. He was 410 00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:58,359 Speaker 12: working on an orchard when the lid of a tank 411 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:00,960 Speaker 12: he was standing on collapse aps and he fell right in. 412 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:03,639 Speaker 12: He managed to hang onto a shovel support himself with 413 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:07,399 Speaker 12: his feet braced inside the tank at a certain angle 414 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 12: to keep his head above well certainly not water again. 415 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:12,840 Speaker 12: He could have easily become fully submerged in the tank, 416 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 12: but he yelled for help. His dog started barking. Thankfully 417 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 12: help did come, and all in all he spent about 418 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:22,119 Speaker 12: twenty minutes in this sewage tank. US what it was 419 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:25,440 Speaker 12: like in their pretty s word, he said, basically, he's 420 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 12: got a bit of a cough now, a chest infection 421 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:30,480 Speaker 12: which he reckons is due to the fumes from the waist. 422 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 12: He was hosed off by fire an emergency when he 423 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 12: came out. Incredibly, he fell in with his phone in 424 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:39,479 Speaker 12: his pocket and it still goes. I'm not sure how 425 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:42,639 Speaker 12: nage to clean it so thoroughly, but impressive for that 426 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 12: phone company. 427 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 2: Thanks thangs, and I hope no one's eating breakfast yet. 428 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:52,480 Speaker 2: It's probably default, isn't it. That's the weather today next. 429 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:55,200 Speaker 12: They should expect it from the Wellington Cross. Mostly fine 430 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 12: northerlyas nineteen in. 431 00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 2: The city brilliant, Thank you Neivas and Auckland. Hey Neva, 432 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:02,879 Speaker 2: good morning, good morning. Or Tomaki says, one person's come 433 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 2: off the roof. So is this another? 434 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:09,679 Speaker 5: Yes, these little Well what's happened is that? Yeah, you're right, 435 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:12,040 Speaker 5: one person has come down. This is the Auckland Youth 436 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:16,159 Speaker 5: Justice Facility called Carterway Monarchy Facility in Witty. Now, this 437 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 5: all happened about six forty five last night. But one 438 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 5: has come down at twelve others remain. 439 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:22,600 Speaker 2: On the roof. 440 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:25,880 Speaker 5: Obviously they're protesting. I don't know what about, but listen 441 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:27,960 Speaker 5: to this. So a witness at the scene says that 442 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:32,240 Speaker 5: the group was seen tearing off roofing, removing insulation, striking 443 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:34,680 Speaker 5: the exterior of the building by kicking it. But of 444 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:39,119 Speaker 5: course now they're asking for demands from the staff. We 445 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:42,000 Speaker 5: want look, I'm not lying, five big max and make 446 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:43,120 Speaker 5: them all large combos. 447 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 3: And we want them. 448 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:47,720 Speaker 5: Ciggies too, that's what they're asking for. And I don't know, 449 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 5: but I think I'll have to just double check. But 450 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:51,680 Speaker 5: I think they're playing cards up there on the roof. 451 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:54,159 Speaker 5: So this is all happening as we speak. But I 452 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:56,680 Speaker 5: remember the last time there was that group that went 453 00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:57,920 Speaker 5: up there and they got cave. 454 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:01,359 Speaker 2: And they got McDonald's and boot and booger key because we, 455 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:04,679 Speaker 2: oh I aid the receipts they spend. 456 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:07,239 Speaker 5: But I'm thinking of the twelve of them up there now. 457 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 5: Five big mechs make them all large combos. 458 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 2: You need more than that. 459 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:11,880 Speaker 5: You won't be sharing up there. 460 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:14,000 Speaker 2: No, and do you know what I mean? At two 461 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:16,479 Speaker 2: schools of thought? One don't feed them and they're get 462 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:17,440 Speaker 2: hungry and come down. 463 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:19,280 Speaker 5: It's right you know them up there. 464 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:19,640 Speaker 2: Yeah. 465 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:23,240 Speaker 5: For Auckland weather, it rains so much. I wish it 466 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:25,720 Speaker 5: was thunder and lightning and all the rain in the world. 467 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:29,399 Speaker 5: With a No, it's not cloudy periods. It has been 468 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:32,560 Speaker 5: quite warm. Nineteen they'll be basking in sunshine up there, 469 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:33,720 Speaker 5: little devils. 470 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:36,720 Speaker 2: It is seventeen away from six News Talk, sib still 471 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:39,399 Speaker 2: to come Donald tomorrow out of Australia and a Colninel 472 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:42,320 Speaker 2: defense lawyer on the three strikes changes and now it'ced 473 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:42,679 Speaker 2: just this. 474 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:47,879 Speaker 1: Morning international correspondence with ends and eye insurance Peace of 475 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:49,680 Speaker 1: mind for New Zealand Business. 476 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 2: Fourteen away from six News Talk said be the protests 477 00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:58,040 Speaker 2: certainly got some reaction and some headlines didn't it. This 478 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:11,920 Speaker 2: is the Australian Senator Lydia Thorpe reaction. Donna Demour Australia 479 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:14,520 Speaker 2: corresponds with us done, a good morning. What has the 480 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:15,240 Speaker 2: reaction been? 481 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 13: Yes, were quite a hostile reception for the Royals in 482 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:21,480 Speaker 13: Canberra and it was just a few meters away that 483 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:26,639 Speaker 13: the Royal couple sat through this rather intense heckling from 484 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:28,240 Speaker 13: the Independent Senator Lydia Thorpe. 485 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:31,960 Speaker 14: The reaction, of course has been quite swift. We know 486 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:36,960 Speaker 14: that the Australian MONARCHUS League wants her to step down immediately, 487 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:44,240 Speaker 14: calling the protest a childish Then we heard from Australia's 488 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:50,399 Speaker 14: first female Aboriginal senator nov Paris, and she's actually issued 489 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:54,040 Speaker 14: what some people are saying is literally an apology to 490 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:57,359 Speaker 14: the King, saying it was a rude outburst and a 491 00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 14: disrespectful attempt to confront ran to the King. We know 492 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:05,119 Speaker 14: that the senator was escorted out by security. There was 493 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:09,160 Speaker 14: even an expleteve yelled out as in fact, as Camilla 494 00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:11,439 Speaker 14: and Charles sat there. There was no reaction from the Royals. 495 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 14: Mind you, the PM also was in the room and 496 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:19,560 Speaker 14: his fiancee and Peter Dutton. Quite a selection of politicians 497 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:22,120 Speaker 14: of course, but we've also heard from front benches from 498 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:24,119 Speaker 14: both sides and they're saying it was just grand standing 499 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:26,119 Speaker 14: and it actually just failed miserably. 500 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, lots of reaction coming from the UK as well, 501 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:31,000 Speaker 2: and I'll get to some of that in a second, 502 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:34,440 Speaker 2: but very quickly, Donna, there's a massive compensation bill coming 503 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:35,080 Speaker 2: for Quantas. 504 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:36,439 Speaker 8: Huge. 505 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 14: Quantas is facing a well about one hundred million dollar 506 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:42,360 Speaker 14: plus payout for illegal sackings. 507 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:43,440 Speaker 2: It's a hefty bill. 508 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:46,159 Speaker 14: For unlawfully laying off staff during the pandemic and it 509 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:49,879 Speaker 14: impacts about seventeen hundred workers that lost their job in 510 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,480 Speaker 14: twenty twenty. Now they've got to get together, the lawyers 511 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:55,320 Speaker 14: will get together and attend a mediation to determine that 512 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:57,240 Speaker 14: final amount payout. 513 00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:59,160 Speaker 2: All right, Donna, thank you very much for that. That's 514 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:01,800 Speaker 2: Dona DeMay R, Australia correspondent with US. Has just gone 515 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:04,760 Speaker 2: twelve minutes away from six o'clock, very quickly so. Kiir 516 00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:09,080 Speaker 2: Starmer's coming to Samoa this week for Chogham, the Commonwealth 517 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:12,040 Speaker 2: Heads of Government meeting, and he's facing lots of questions. 518 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:15,119 Speaker 2: After that protest in Australia, people are saying, including some 519 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:18,840 Speaker 2: of his own MPs are saying you need to apologize 520 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:22,600 Speaker 2: for the slave trade. This obviously affects more Caribbean countries 521 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:27,760 Speaker 2: Chogham countries, but also asked to apologize and pay reparations 522 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:31,639 Speaker 2: and compensation for Britain's role in the slave trade, and 523 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:35,439 Speaker 2: this is what kir Starmer's presect has said. Reparations are 524 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 2: not on the agenda for the Commonwealth Heads of Government meeting. 525 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:42,679 Speaker 2: And asked about an apology, the spokesperson said the position 526 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 2: on an apology remains the same. We won't be offering 527 00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:50,439 Speaker 2: an apology at Chogham in Samoa. It is eleven away from. 528 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:51,840 Speaker 3: Six ran Bridge. 529 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:55,320 Speaker 2: The government's toughening the three Strikes Bill by lowering the 530 00:27:55,480 --> 00:28:00,560 Speaker 2: qualifying sentence threshold. What does that mean. Well, initially it 531 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:03,399 Speaker 2: was proposing the threshold you would have to reach in 532 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:06,480 Speaker 2: order to be considered for your first strike a sentence 533 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:09,440 Speaker 2: of twenty four months or more. They're lowering that down 534 00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:12,680 Speaker 2: to twelve months, which means lesser crimes will get you 535 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:16,440 Speaker 2: your first strike. You can then go on to get 536 00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:19,640 Speaker 2: your second and third, but would require a twenty four 537 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:23,680 Speaker 2: month imprisonment minimum term in order to get your second 538 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:26,520 Speaker 2: and third strike. Roderic Mulgan is a criminal defense lawyer. 539 00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:28,720 Speaker 2: He joins US Live this morning. Roderick, good morning, Welcome 540 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:29,120 Speaker 2: to the show. 541 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:30,800 Speaker 15: Good morning, Ryan, how. 542 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:31,240 Speaker 2: Are you good? 543 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:31,600 Speaker 7: Thank you? 544 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:33,600 Speaker 2: Is this going to make much of a difference. 545 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:37,360 Speaker 15: Well, yes, it'll catch more people in the net, which 546 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:39,400 Speaker 15: is of course what they're intending. I think, of course, 547 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:41,960 Speaker 15: need to point out that when you refer to those sentences, 548 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 15: you're referring to the maximum sentence available for the crime 549 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:47,600 Speaker 15: on the statu you're not the actual sentence. Yes, that 550 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:51,320 Speaker 15: the person might get. Yes, so you know you might 551 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:53,400 Speaker 15: not get twenty four months in jail. But if that's 552 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 15: the sentence for that crime, then you've ticked the box. 553 00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 15: You've got to strike. 554 00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:01,280 Speaker 2: What types of crimes would fall under the twelve months 555 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:03,720 Speaker 2: as opposed to the twenty four wow. 556 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:10,760 Speaker 15: All sorts of thefts and burgeries and assaults. It's it's 557 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:14,680 Speaker 15: quite common that the sorts of crimes that come before 558 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:20,080 Speaker 15: the courts I have those terms of imprisonments attached low 559 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:25,960 Speaker 15: level in decent assaults, that sort of thing, certainly burgery, 560 00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:27,960 Speaker 15: certainly theft, So. 561 00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:32,200 Speaker 2: Burglary and theft could get you your first strike then, 562 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 2: but then you would have to be really bad. To 563 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 2: get your second and third, you just had to be 564 00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:38,600 Speaker 2: bit with. 565 00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:42,240 Speaker 15: In fact, those crimes would qualify under the twenty four 566 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:45,480 Speaker 15: month mark as well. 567 00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:48,640 Speaker 2: True. So all in all, is this going to make 568 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:49,960 Speaker 2: New Zealand safer? 569 00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:52,640 Speaker 9: When you see? 570 00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:55,280 Speaker 15: That's the big question, and that's what the politicians assert 571 00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:58,200 Speaker 15: that it will. It will certainly put people in jail 572 00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:01,720 Speaker 15: for longer that that's a good thing. It's an entirely 573 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:05,400 Speaker 15: different question. The idea that you can keep society safe 574 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:08,320 Speaker 15: by just locking people up for very long periods of 575 00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:12,040 Speaker 15: time and forgetting me you left? The key is that 576 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:18,600 Speaker 15: old fashioned. It has perverse effects. So for instance, if 577 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:22,480 Speaker 15: you're going up for a sentence and you agree to 578 00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:26,280 Speaker 15: things like undertaking rehabilitation, you get a discount, which is 579 00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:30,440 Speaker 15: a good thing. But if you have an automatic the 580 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:33,760 Speaker 15: judge can't vary at rule that you must get the 581 00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:37,880 Speaker 15: maximum sentence, then you no longer engage in those sorts 582 00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:39,760 Speaker 15: of activities to get yourself at discount. 583 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:43,760 Speaker 2: But if you've done strike one, strike two, strike three, 584 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:46,560 Speaker 2: I mean, at some point isn't it more for us. 585 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:48,560 Speaker 1: More? 586 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:51,520 Speaker 2: Aren't we the fools for believing it? You know that 587 00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:55,239 Speaker 2: they'll change, or that they're remorseful when it's not at all. 588 00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:59,360 Speaker 15: Lots of people get strings of sentences over years, but 589 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:03,840 Speaker 15: capable of changing, improving, having periods of time where they 590 00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:08,040 Speaker 15: don't offend. A finding is complicated. It's not just the 591 00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:11,000 Speaker 15: case of the bad people. People offend because they have 592 00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:14,560 Speaker 15: substance PEERCE issues, because they're low IQ, because they don't 593 00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:19,480 Speaker 15: have they're not embedded in family support networks, they lack 594 00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:23,200 Speaker 15: life skills. It's a complicated business and you can't just 595 00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:25,600 Speaker 15: say I will lock you up for longer and you'll 596 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:28,720 Speaker 15: learn your lesson. And the other big problem is that 597 00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:36,719 Speaker 15: you get seriously disproportionate outcomes. And there was a famous 598 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:39,440 Speaker 15: case that came out the last time. This is on 599 00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:42,880 Speaker 15: the statute books. Grammand, who had some mental health issues, 600 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:44,920 Speaker 15: tried to kiss a woman on the street. 601 00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:49,320 Speaker 2: And it was completely overblowing, basically, wasn't it. 602 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:51,280 Speaker 8: And that was indecent assault. 603 00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:53,680 Speaker 15: He got seven years because that was the third one. 604 00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:55,200 Speaker 15: That's the problem. 605 00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:57,680 Speaker 2: Roderick, thank you very much for your time. As always, 606 00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:00,720 Speaker 2: Roderic Mulgan, who is a criminal defense lawyer. It is 607 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:03,040 Speaker 2: seven away from six on. 608 00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:07,840 Speaker 1: Your radio and online on iHeartRadio Early edition with Ryan 609 00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:11,000 Speaker 1: Bridge and Smith City New Zealand's furniture beds and a 610 00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:11,720 Speaker 1: playing store. 611 00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:14,400 Speaker 2: Youth Talk said be five away from six News Talk 612 00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:16,680 Speaker 2: said be there's a group of youths who are hold 613 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:18,720 Speaker 2: up on the top of a youth justice facility in 614 00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:22,800 Speaker 2: Auckland this morning, demanding five Big Max combos be delivered 615 00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:26,080 Speaker 2: to them. One of our listeners says, my solution for 616 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:29,440 Speaker 2: those clowns hold up on the detention facility roof, send 617 00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:32,680 Speaker 2: one big Mac combo and televised the results way better 618 00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:35,840 Speaker 2: than celebrity Treasure Island. It has just gone five to six. 619 00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:38,440 Speaker 2: Mike saire, Hey, Mike, what do they want? Five big 620 00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:39,160 Speaker 2: Mac combos? 621 00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:42,760 Speaker 6: The bigger picture? There must be something bigger than that. 622 00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:43,920 Speaker 2: Well, there always is. 623 00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:46,880 Speaker 6: I holistically speaking, what are they seeking in life? 624 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:48,640 Speaker 2: Probably some respect? 625 00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:51,600 Speaker 6: Really yeah, if they asked directly for that now. 626 00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:53,480 Speaker 2: But that's usually what it comes down to, isn't that 627 00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:55,280 Speaker 2: they don't feel that they're being respected? 628 00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:55,920 Speaker 3: Right? 629 00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:58,520 Speaker 6: So so how would that manifest itself. 630 00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:01,280 Speaker 2: To you got a big Mac? Give me a big Mac. 631 00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:05,280 Speaker 6: Is there something wrong with this country? I mean yes, 632 00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:05,840 Speaker 6: I don't know. 633 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:07,720 Speaker 2: Yes, there is something wrong with this There is something, 634 00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:09,800 Speaker 2: but it's not worth dwelling on because it can become 635 00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:10,600 Speaker 2: quite depressing. 636 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:11,600 Speaker 6: That is true. 637 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:12,560 Speaker 2: That is true. 638 00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:16,480 Speaker 6: Do you I mean you must remember that. I distinctly 639 00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:18,560 Speaker 6: remember it. Ja Cinda Adern did it. It was an 640 00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:23,200 Speaker 6: intervention by her moments before she left for the Pacific, remember, 641 00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:25,680 Speaker 6: and I think it was Choggham that she was leaving for. 642 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:30,040 Speaker 6: And she she sent dispatched Willie down south to sort 643 00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:32,320 Speaker 6: them out. And you know, this was a housing crisis 644 00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:35,360 Speaker 6: and Fletchers were busy building houses to solve our problem. 645 00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:38,000 Speaker 6: But no, we'll pay our thirty million dollars and will 646 00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:39,400 Speaker 6: and here we are all these years later and. 647 00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:40,360 Speaker 2: What four years later? 648 00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:43,160 Speaker 6: And nothing years later and literally nothing's happened, and we're 649 00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:47,000 Speaker 6: still paying for this nonsense politics over substance. Anyway, we'll 650 00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:48,720 Speaker 6: talk to the Prime Minister about this. 651 00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:52,080 Speaker 2: Another matters Mike with the next Have a great day everyone, 652 00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:53,080 Speaker 2: I'll see tomorrow. 653 00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:00,840 Speaker 3: For more from Early Edition with Ryan Bridge. 654 00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:04,440 Speaker 1: Listen live to News Talks it'd be from five am weekdays, 655 00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:06,760 Speaker 1: or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.