1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,720 Speaker 1: Tokoa Right, the owner of the Kanneath mill at Tokaroa, 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:07,680 Speaker 1: has confirmed plans to permanently end paper production from June. 3 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:11,000 Speaker 1: About two hundred and thirty factory workers will then lose 4 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: their jobs. Og Fiber Solutions says it will transition the 5 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 1: mill to focusing just on pulp, no more paper, and 6 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:22,120 Speaker 1: it will move to a paper import model for its 7 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:26,800 Speaker 1: packaging operation. So Gary Pittley from the Southwakado, he is 8 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 1: the South Southway Katto District mayor joins you. Now, Hello, Gary, Andrew, 9 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 1: how are you? Matt good? How are you sad day? 10 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:36,200 Speaker 2: He is? Said day sad day? 11 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 1: Okay? So is this the end of it all? Or 12 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:45,280 Speaker 1: is there any room to save any other jobs before June? 13 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:49,280 Speaker 2: What of from one of the people I've spoken to, Andrew, 14 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 2: I think they'll continue to ask the options available throughout 15 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 2: that whole exercise, and it could It may not just 16 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 2: be those that are directly affected. There may be some 17 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 2: job swaps that have been put to the to og 18 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 2: Og Solutions and that wouldn't They don't want to tell 19 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 2: somebody who's been there for quite an long period of 20 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:17,680 Speaker 2: time opting for redundancy but doing a job swap with 21 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:21,399 Speaker 2: an affected worker. So those options have to be looked at, 22 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:24,480 Speaker 2: and we're just to see where they land. And they've 23 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:28,320 Speaker 2: got till June and before they make that song. 24 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:30,760 Speaker 1: Other thin other than making the decision you hate, do 25 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:32,319 Speaker 1: OG five seem like good people. 26 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 2: I was probably alerted question Andrew, But you know, I 27 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 2: get from my perspective, and I come from twenty one 28 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 2: years having worked there and left there under the redundancy 29 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 2: model in nineteen ninety eight, so I was, but then 30 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 2: the situation was different then because it was my decision 31 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 2: to go there and my wife and I wanted to 32 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 2: pursue other options out in the field. 33 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 1: Let's go back to your new job. You are the mayor. 34 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 1: This is going to have a huge impact impact on 35 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 1: the town. And we were talking to a boat before 36 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:10,679 Speaker 1: who said, yeah, sure, there's two hundred odd jobs that 37 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:13,239 Speaker 1: are going, but it's actually all the contractors who who 38 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:15,920 Speaker 1: are part of it, or it could be more like 39 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:18,079 Speaker 1: a thousand. And then for every job that you lose, 40 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 1: that affects three other jobs. And the problem with Talker 41 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 1: Raw is that you were too dependent on one industry. 42 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 1: So so how big is this impact going to be 43 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 1: and is it survivable? 44 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 2: It's it's huge. It's huge because, as you alluded to, 45 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 2: those two hundred and thirty workers, and it's to support 46 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 2: wrap around service from contractors that add up and truck 47 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 2: drivers and transport deliveries and carriers that add up to 48 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:48,919 Speaker 2: that that will add up to their total. Is it survivable? Yes, 49 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:53,079 Speaker 2: I think it is, and I believe that the council 50 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:58,640 Speaker 2: have been working on initiatives to to get new business 51 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 2: into town. And we've got a industrial park that we're 52 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 2: developing now in twelve of the thirteen sites have been 53 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 2: sold already that's being developed that will create about two 54 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 2: hundred to three hundred jobs. The Ofi or Ofi Dairy factory, 55 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 2: the new one on the south side of town, is 56 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:23,520 Speaker 2: looking at signing off on phase two of their development, 57 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:25,080 Speaker 2: so that will create more jobs. 58 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 1: I suppose this is a warning mate to all the 59 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 1: towns in New Zealand that are dependent on one employer 60 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 1: that you can never diversify your employment base enough and 61 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 1: that you must always work on it, you know, to 62 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 1: get safeguard against the rainy day that's coming. 63 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 2: Yeah. I think the reality around that, Andrew, is that 64 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 2: everybody gets comfortable in their own in their own space, 65 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 2: and I guess where we should have been looking more 66 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 2: in my view when redundancies first started happening, when we 67 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 2: went from a four thousand and four thousand and four 68 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 2: and a half thousand workforce four hundred, and that will 69 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 2: suggest that discussion has sort of been on alternative employment 70 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 2: or getting new business into town. 71 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:16,039 Speaker 1: Okay, we wish you all the best of luck and everybody. 72 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 1: And Tocora is a lovely town. You've got a great 73 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:20,600 Speaker 1: forest right there, You're close to the lakes for recreation, 74 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:22,920 Speaker 1: and it's close to going skiing as well, if if, 75 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 1: if the snow ever arrives. And I just want to 76 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 1: wish you and all the people of Tokoro and Southware 77 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 1: all the best of luck, and I thank you for 78 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 1: your time. Gary, Thank you very much, Andrew Gary Pitley. 79 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 1: He is the South White Kato District mayor. 80 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 2: For more from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive, listen live to 81 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:43,239 Speaker 2: news talks. It'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow 82 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:45,040 Speaker 2: the podcast on iHeartRadio.