1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:04,480 Speaker 1: Devin Gray Uka correspondents with us Elogevin hither Hell Heaven. 2 00:00:04,480 --> 00:00:07,040 Speaker 1: Have you read this Guardian piece about Nigel Farage. 3 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:11,760 Speaker 2: I have, yes. It's a very interesting piece about Nigel Farage, 4 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 2: who of course is helped secure Brexit back in twenty 5 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:19,239 Speaker 2: sixteen and leads the Reform Party, which is led I 6 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 2: think more than the last one hundred opinion polls in 7 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 2: this country, a real upstart political party. It's a piece 8 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 2: about Nigel Farage's time at school. Now you might think, 9 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 2: being some fifty years ago, that this would all long 10 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:35,600 Speaker 2: be forgotten. But of course, if he is going to 11 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 2: be our next prime minister, and there are plenty of 12 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 2: people who think he will be, such as the sheer 13 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 2: disdain for the two main political parties at the moment, 14 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:46,600 Speaker 2: that people are going to dig up his history and 15 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 2: have a look at his time. And he went to 16 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 2: Dullage College, which is a private school, very exclusive school 17 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:55,279 Speaker 2: in the south of London. And the Guardian newspaper here, 18 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 2: the left wing paper, has spoken to plenty of his 19 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 2: former school boy colleagues and some of them are not 20 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:06,959 Speaker 2: painting a particularly nice image, claiming that he was a contrarian. 21 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 2: That's a polite one. Others are saying he sang right 22 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:14,480 Speaker 2: wing and anti Semitic songs, that he was always a 23 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 2: bit of an upstart, a bit of a trouble maker, 24 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 2: and was continually sort of picking on boys who weren't 25 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:25,319 Speaker 2: white British as it were. Now those are the allegations. 26 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:28,319 Speaker 2: He has come back with various legal letters to the Guardian. 27 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 2: The party Reform UK is saying that it's no coincidence 28 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 2: this newspaper is seeking to discredit Reform UK that's led 29 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty consecutive opinion polls and we fully 30 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 2: expect these cynical attempts to smear Reform and mislead the 31 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:45,679 Speaker 2: public to intensify further as we move closer to the 32 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 2: next election. And I have to say there will be 33 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 2: some who would say this was fifty years ago. Is 34 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 2: this the best they could do? 35 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 1: Well, that's the question I had when I read it. 36 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 1: I mean, fear enough, the guy is going to be 37 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 1: the Prime minister. Maybe, and obviously when you have a 38 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 1: prime minister interested in their history, but is it relevant 39 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 1: what he did when he was thirteen years old. 40 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 2: Yeah. What they're trying to do is to paint a 41 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:13,800 Speaker 2: consistent image of him being far right, and some of 42 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:17,520 Speaker 2: those interviews with some of the pupils sort of suggests 43 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:20,519 Speaker 2: that still the case, or sorry that that was the case, 44 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 2: but others say, you, well, we can't. I can't remember 45 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 2: him using those words, or I can't remember him singing 46 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 2: that song. And you know we are talking all that 47 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 2: time ago and one person referring to a song that 48 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:35,400 Speaker 2: was sung on a coach trip, Well, I can't remember 49 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 2: fifty years ago what was sung on a coach trip. 50 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:40,799 Speaker 2: So I look, I think there is an element here 51 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:44,360 Speaker 2: of the left wing Guardian paper, like many people in 52 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 2: this country uncomfortable with the prospect of Nigel Farag just 53 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 2: the potential leader. Others are very comfortable with that and 54 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:54,080 Speaker 2: see him as a route out of the mess this 55 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 2: country is in. But it does seem extraordinarly that there's 56 00:02:57,600 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 2: this huge gap then between his school days when he 57 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 2: when he was eighteen, right through until present day. So yeah, 58 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:08,959 Speaker 2: I'm not sure how consistently impactful this will be, particularly 59 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 2: as it's come into The Guardian and that's a paper 60 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 2: that's well known for not liking right wing politics. 61 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a fair point that you make. Listen, so 62 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 1: when does it become ilegal to sell tickets for a profit. 63 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, since really this government is now really trying to 64 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 2: push on the fact that if you buy a ticket 65 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:28,240 Speaker 2: for a concert, you can't then resell it for more 66 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 2: than the face value. And now there are some very 67 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 2: successful and popular sites that already do that. Resale sites 68 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 2: like via go go and stub hub are basically saying 69 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 2: that this price cap, limiting the price of any resale 70 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 2: to that face value, is going to push customers towards 71 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 2: unregulated sites and also people selling things on social media, 72 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 2: and that of course will put them at risk of 73 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 2: increased risk of buying fraudulent tickets or fake tickets, and 74 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 2: that has been a real thing that the ministers have 75 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 2: been looking at and don't really seem to have issued 76 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 2: an answer for that. They are looking at basically sorting 77 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 2: this out and the consultation on the changes as canvas 78 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 2: views on capping tickets at face value or anything up 79 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 2: to thirty percent above the face value of a ticket, 80 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 2: because we have seen Oasis tickets, for instance, be sold 81 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:26,119 Speaker 2: for huge sums of money and then resold for even 82 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 2: higher sums of money. So restricting ticket touts was one 83 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 2: of this government's election pledges fans complaining of massively inflated 84 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:36,719 Speaker 2: prices for resold tickets, and this is an attempt to 85 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 2: do something about it if they're announcing the plan in 86 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:40,360 Speaker 2: just a few hours time. 87 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:44,040 Speaker 1: Brilliant stuff. Thank you so much, Gevin, appreciate it. Gavin Gray, UK, corresponding. 88 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 2: For more from Hither duplus Yell and Drive. Listen live 89 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 2: to news talks. It'd be from four pm weekdays, or 90 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 2: follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.