1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:04,360 Speaker 1: Your source of breaking news, challenging opinion and honored back 2 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:09,360 Speaker 1: the Mic Hosking Breakfast with a Veda Retirement Communities, Life 3 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 1: Your Way News, togs Head being welcome. 4 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 2: Today with golden visas to hit the applications and the 5 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:17,320 Speaker 2: money are flowing. Capping rates and scrapping councils seems real. 6 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:19,960 Speaker 2: J Shane Jones Ways, and we go back to the 7 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 2: banks this morning from all of this business of the 8 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 2: drop off in some sme lending and whether they're making 9 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 2: life too hard for a Scott Robinson and after eight 10 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 2: for a word, Catherine Fields in France ahead of NATO, 11 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:33,640 Speaker 2: rob Lytle covers off the UK beautifully husky, Welcome to 12 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:35,840 Speaker 2: Tuesday morning, seven past six. So, having looked at every 13 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:37,920 Speaker 2: council in the country and depending rate ridss, we're all 14 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 2: going to have to pay a couple of inescapable conclusions 15 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:42,920 Speaker 2: are to be drawn. One we need central government to 16 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:46,239 Speaker 2: cap rates. Two we need fewer councils if you were 17 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:48,559 Speaker 2: to roughly use inflation as a guide, which is what 18 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 2: they should be doing. Why Tomo is the only council 19 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 2: in the country. Of all the councils seventy plus of them, 20 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 2: the only council in the country to get under the 21 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 2: wire at two point nine three percent, So congratulations. Now, 22 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 2: I'm sure wherevery council could and would mounta an argument 23 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:04,040 Speaker 2: as to why whatever it is they've come up with, 24 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 2: whether it be the twelve point nine percent in Taranaki 25 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 2: or the fifteen point five percent in Hamilton, is in 26 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 2: some way, shape or form justifiable. A lot of it 27 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 2: will be historic, they will tell you. In other words, 28 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 2: of previous councils had done their job and fiscally prudent, 29 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 2: the work being undertaken today would not be the current 30 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 2: burden it is, but a lot of it, if you 31 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 2: a doge like or brutal, would not in fact be 32 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 2: needed at all. Councils have become fifdoms. They have entered 33 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 2: areas they have no business in. But, like so much 34 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 2: in life, once you've ventured, there is no turning back. 35 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 2: Apart from the specific like the Otto hung A nine 36 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 2: point seven Sex or the Central Otago twelve point four, 37 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 2: you also have the more general impact. In other words, 38 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:44,119 Speaker 2: you are adding cost to the economy. You were charging 39 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:46,560 Speaker 2: fixed income folk. You don't have the money. What you 40 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 2: were doing is inflationary. None of us had the ability 41 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 2: to simply add more charges. We don't simply get the 42 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 2: pay rise we want or up our hourly rate to 43 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 2: the poor sap with servicing. Life isn't like that we 44 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 2: cut our cloth? Could we buy more? 45 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 3: Do more? 46 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 2: Spend more? Because we're could, But we can't unless you're 47 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 2: a council. And even if a council, any council could say, oh, 48 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 2: look look at what all that money got you look 49 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 2: at the gold plating and the shiny baubles and tens 50 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 2: of thousands who have flocked to our region because of 51 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 2: our expenditure. But they can't say that because none of 52 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:20,960 Speaker 2: that's happened. Fifteen percent doesn't buy you utopia. It merely 53 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:23,080 Speaker 2: sets you up for another fifteen percent next year. Because 54 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 2: councils know a sucker when they see one, So cap 55 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 2: those rates. Can those councils. It might well be the 56 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 2: most popular thing the central government does in three years. 57 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 4: Why news of the world in ninety seconds, Well, it's. 58 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 2: The war, the new one. It may be that Iran 59 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:40,960 Speaker 2: is attacking Iraq and Qatar as we speak, the Britze 60 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 2: busy and the de escalation business. 61 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:44,360 Speaker 4: We're at war. 62 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:47,520 Speaker 5: With Iran's nuclear program. 63 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 6: We're not at war with the Iranian. 64 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 2: People while we're in Britain. The Lobdoms aren't actually a 65 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:54,640 Speaker 2: fan of any of this bombing business. 66 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 7: Instead of bringing security, Trump and Neettan Yahoo's unilateral actions 67 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 7: have increased uncertainty, risk of a full scale regional war. 68 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:02,399 Speaker 8: Yeah. 69 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 7: Well, their belief that might is right both further erodes 70 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:09,360 Speaker 7: the real based international law to and undermines the prospects 71 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:11,239 Speaker 7: of containing Iran state Tired. 72 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:14,080 Speaker 2: The President posed the question yesterday, of course about regime James, 73 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 2: So Miss Caroline came out today, gave that a sprute. 74 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:19,359 Speaker 4: I refuse to engage in diplomacy moving forward. 75 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:22,360 Speaker 8: Why shouldn't the Iranian people rise up against this brutal 76 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 8: terrorist regime. 77 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 9: That's a question the President raised last night. 78 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 2: Meantime, JD muddy the waters a little bit, given we're 79 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:31,920 Speaker 2: getting varying descriptions now just how obliterated the Iran nuclear 80 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 2: program might be. 81 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 10: I think that we have really pushed their program back 82 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 10: by a very long time. 83 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 11: I think that it's going to be many, many years 84 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 11: before the Iranians are able to develop a nuclear weapon. 85 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 2: While we work out where all this goes, the oil 86 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 2: price is fun to. 87 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 10: Watch because of the tariff policies of the United States government, 88 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 10: and then the retaliatory tariffs that are threatened or are 89 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 10: coming in place that everyone's on tenor hooks anyway. 90 00:03:56,720 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 2: Yes, and of course the oil price has come down 91 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 2: significantly more. With Andrew in a couple of moments back 92 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 2: in Gaza, which is related but also separate, there are 93 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 2: quite a few people quite worried. 94 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 5: It says we're going two places world War three, which 95 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 5: is maybe in Russia or China will enjoying or we 96 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:19,799 Speaker 5: will actually just obliterate Iran. And they were just surrender, 97 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:21,040 Speaker 5: what's your things? 98 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:21,360 Speaker 9: Nice? 99 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 4: Like? 100 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 12: Okay? 101 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:23,840 Speaker 5: World War three. 102 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:27,839 Speaker 2: Finally, Walmart and Target they're taking a dough style approach 103 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 2: to a problem everywhere new rule. You take the supermarket 104 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 2: trolley off the premises, they're going to find you forty 105 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 2: two hundred dollars go. Then they both lose between them 106 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 2: a couple of million trolleys a year, and that cost 107 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 2: them three hundred million to replace him as News of 108 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:43,840 Speaker 2: the World of ninety. Yeah, so in the last hour 109 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:46,159 Speaker 2: or so they've had a go at the Iranians at 110 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 2: Qatar or Kuta us and UK. Funnily enough, when arrived 111 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 2: at work this morning about three o'clock, the US and 112 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:53,720 Speaker 2: the UK had told the citizens in Kata to shelter 113 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:56,719 Speaker 2: in place until further notice, and everyone was going, well, 114 00:04:57,040 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 2: what's that about, And they were using the line abundance 115 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 2: of caution. I obviously knew what was coming. Ironically, in 116 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 2: Bahrain and Qatar cutter in the embassies, the US and 117 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 2: British embassies, they are in a quote unquote duck and 118 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 2: cover position, so they're exercising increased caution. So it's unfolding 119 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 2: as we speak, and we'll keep you update. Obviously. Twelve 120 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 2: past six. 121 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:26,040 Speaker 1: The Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio call 122 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 1: it by News Talk Zippy. 123 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 2: Getting the first reports is from the Atlantic that they're 124 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 2: looking to get the eye Tolraw. He's in a bunker 125 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:36,600 Speaker 2: cutting himself off from the rest of the world AT's age. 126 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 2: I mean, this is not new news is They've been 127 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 2: thinking about that for a while. As regards the Strait 128 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:44,479 Speaker 2: of Hamus, the US has asked China to try and 129 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 2: convince the Iranians not to do it. The Iranian parliament 130 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:49,599 Speaker 2: have voted to do it, but they need the oldest 131 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:54,280 Speaker 2: ab give it the go ahead. China may find value 132 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 2: in the chaos. I thought was an interesting line and 133 00:05:57,360 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 2: reported to this morning fifteen past. 134 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:03,359 Speaker 4: Six, She's just gone Dad. 135 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 2: Jmo Old Andrew Callen had very good morning to you. 136 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 3: Very good morning, Mike. 137 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 2: No one really is interesting, isn't it. Can I just 138 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 2: tosk my three cents in here. We've seen this before, 139 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 2: and I think Iran's a busted flush and the world 140 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:18,279 Speaker 2: is seeing that. Hence you're not seeing quite the alarm 141 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:19,360 Speaker 2: that some would have predicted. 142 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:22,479 Speaker 3: No, No, in fact, I got you know. So this 143 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:25,480 Speaker 3: is the first full trading session we've seen since for 144 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 3: the global market, since the US took that military action. 145 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 3: And I got up very early this morning, Mike, because 146 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 3: I was fascinated to see what had happened. And the 147 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:35,280 Speaker 3: thing is changing so quickly. I mean an hour ago 148 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:37,840 Speaker 3: or two hours ago, I was sort of saying, it 149 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:41,039 Speaker 3: looks the reaction of the market looks I was calling 150 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 3: it muted and controlled, and it was very much giving 151 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 3: off a sort of a weight and sea vibe. And 152 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 3: at that stage, you know, the US share markets were 153 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:50,359 Speaker 3: cautiously higher. But then we've had quite a bit go 154 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:53,159 Speaker 3: on in the last couple of hours, because when the 155 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:56,279 Speaker 3: first news broke that there was this credible threat to 156 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:59,159 Speaker 3: US military bases in the Middle East that did push 157 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 3: markets low are and that is testament to the fact 158 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 3: that what we're going to see for the next couple 159 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 3: of days, I suspect is very much headline driven market activity. 160 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 3: Really interesting point that might that doesn't seem to be 161 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 3: signs of panic. There's a degree of nervousness, lots of 162 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 3: commentary about the issue simply not being resolved yet. But 163 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 3: obviously the key commodity for markets is oil, and this 164 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 3: is we are now going to give you the good 165 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 3: oil on oil market. This is what's going on. Okay, 166 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 3: so the market was nervous at a priced priced oil 167 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 3: a little bit higher, but really, I mean it's spiked 168 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 3: eighty bucks on the open for brank crude. But actually 169 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 3: we saw oil higher earlier this year. It was higher 170 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 3: than this in January. What has happened, though, is that 171 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 3: now that we've had these these basically these missiles going 172 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 3: towards the US base, is we've seen the we've seen 173 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 3: the oil price collapse. And this feels counterintuitive, but the 174 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 3: reason for this is that the key concern was that 175 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 3: the Iranians target oil infrastructure. You just talked about the 176 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 3: straits of horn Moss. Their first salvo, shall we call it, 177 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 3: their first retail reaction hasn't targeted oil infrastructure. What that 178 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 3: is giving the markets, it's giving them. It's giving them 179 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 3: confidence that they're not going to do that, and hence 180 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 3: there's no need to price that premium into oil. So 181 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 3: oils come down and share markets have rallied, you know, 182 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 3: quite a bit, just quickly. On the other assets, currencies 183 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 3: normally an important pressure valve or barometer of sentiment. U 184 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:31,560 Speaker 3: S dollar spiked high this morning on the open, but 185 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:34,680 Speaker 3: it's fallen back. Also, that moves Kiwi dollar around, so 186 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 3: push kibi down under fifty nine cents for a bit. 187 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 3: It's back at sort of fifty nine and a half. 188 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 3: We've seen US treasuries, so the other asset that we 189 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 3: look at in times like this, you normally see a 190 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:45,840 Speaker 3: flight to quality or what sorry, a flight to safety. 191 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 3: We're seeing that evident in the US markets. A ten 192 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 3: year tenure US treasury was up around four point forty 193 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:55,319 Speaker 3: four on look at Friday. It's now at four point three. 194 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:59,680 Speaker 3: Probably also beneficiary of Federals of Governor Michelle Bauman expressing 195 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 3: support for a July rate cut, but plenty going on. Mike, 196 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 3: what I'm interested in here is or what I want 197 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 3: to I suppose one of the messages I want to 198 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:12,560 Speaker 3: get across to people, for people like invest as Kei 199 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 3: we Saber, you've got to take a step back. You've 200 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:18,200 Speaker 3: got to take a step back. The next two days 201 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 3: headline driven it will be chopping. Yeah, the big picture here, 202 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 3: you've got to have a look at that oil. I 203 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:26,840 Speaker 3: was going to talk for a couple of minutes about 204 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 3: the straight of Hornmors and why they wouldn't do that. 205 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 3: You've covered that it's counterproductive for the Iranians to close 206 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 3: the straight up horms because that's where they sell their 207 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 3: oil through, so counterproductive. Market's taken some response that, but 208 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 3: that Mike, there is very much and having a couple 209 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:44,200 Speaker 3: of weeks off to reflect on this, there is what 210 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:48,839 Speaker 3: I call now a nexus of uncertainty. Everywhere you look, 211 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 3: there are issues that we don't know how they're going 212 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 3: to be resolved. So you've got the trade issues, July 213 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 3: nine is looming there, where's the resolution on that? Internal 214 00:09:56,480 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 3: US politics, it's dynamic, it's fraught. You've got US government 215 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:02,080 Speaker 3: de that has to be resolved. You got inflation, so 216 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 3: kind of right. What I'm trying to do right now 217 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 3: is trying to figure out how all this sort of 218 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 3: resolves without potential can change in between those issues. And 219 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 3: that's probably the big picture thing. 220 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:13,560 Speaker 2: Fantastic, and that's why we pay you the big bucks. 221 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:15,840 Speaker 2: And what are the numbers? 222 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 3: The numbers, So yeah, this is just crazy because you'd think, 223 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 3: wouldn't you, that they'd be you know, Mark chairmangs be live, 224 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 3: but they're not. The Dow Jones is up three hundred 225 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 3: and three points. It's up three quarters of percent forty 226 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 3: two thousand, five hundred and ten. The S and P 227 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 3: five hundreds are surged back through the six thousand market. 228 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 3: It's got us up forty four points three quards of percent. 229 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:37,960 Speaker 3: The nazuk even more. It's up almost one percent one 230 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:40,960 Speaker 3: hundred and seventy eight points nineteen thousand, six hundred and 231 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 3: twenty five overnight. The foots y one hundred lost point 232 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 3: two percent eighty seven five eight. The Nicke was down 233 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 3: small forty nine points thirty eight thousand, three hundred and 234 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 3: fifty four. Shang High Composite was up twenty two points. 235 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:56,200 Speaker 3: That's points sixty five percent. The Aussie is yesterday the 236 00:10:56,320 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 3: Australasian market's lost a little bit of ground. The ASEX 237 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:02,320 Speaker 3: two hundreds down thirty one points, that's about a third 238 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 3: of a percent eight four seven four and the n 239 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 3: S next fifty lost point to twenty nine of a percent, 240 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 3: closing it twelve thousand, five hundred and thirty two. So 241 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 3: Kiwi dollar sitting us set around the mid fifty nine 242 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 3: point five nine six one point nine two four six 243 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:17,720 Speaker 3: against the Aussie point five one five six Euro point 244 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 3: four four one one against the pound eighty seven point 245 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 3: twenty seven Japanese yen gold three thousand, three hundred and 246 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 3: seven hundred dollars and say brink crewed seventy two dollars 247 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 3: and thirty five cents, and it was eighty bucks earlier on. 248 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 3: So hey, never a dull moment, though, Mike. 249 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:31,439 Speaker 2: That is the truth. My hometown treating you well. 250 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 3: It is everybody's crowing down here about the Crusaders. I 251 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 3: gave a presentation yesterday which I cunningly managed to extend 252 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:42,960 Speaker 3: past the timing of the parade so nobody could go 253 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:43,440 Speaker 3: and watch it. 254 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:45,960 Speaker 2: Good on you, mate, Go well and I'll see you tomorrow. 255 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 2: Andrew Gallaher, Jamiwell dot Co. Dot and Z must get 256 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 2: watch Virgin today they're listing on the ASX. That'll be interesting. 257 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 2: Interesting time to float an airline. I would have thought 258 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:58,199 Speaker 2: record house prices in America this morning. One point five 259 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 2: four million houses available at the end of May. That's 260 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 2: an increase, so there's plenty of supply. Median prices up 261 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 2: though twenty seven days versus twenty four to sell from 262 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 2: a year ago, so they're setting records and prices in 263 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 2: the American housing market. Sex twenty one air News Talks 264 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:14,680 Speaker 2: had been. 265 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 1: Love Mike Hosking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered 266 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 1: by News Talks at B. 267 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 2: I flew home from Malta Cypress Dubai yesterday, took two 268 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 2: days of hold up to dodging war zones. Arrived at 269 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 2: Auckland and the bloody drawbridge won't work. Two hours on 270 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 2: the plane before getting towed onto the Apron distant barked 271 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:43,520 Speaker 2: via the old fashioned way, happy to be home, but 272 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 2: really after seventeen hours from Dubai, two hours stuck on 273 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 2: a plane due to technical problems with the air bridge. Well, 274 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 2: I was telling me the other day Auckland Airport and 275 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:53,720 Speaker 2: some sort of measure the other day came out suggested 276 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:56,440 Speaker 2: things have improved markedly at Auckland Airport. But I mean 277 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:58,680 Speaker 2: you got to this is real. I mean the Kataria 278 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 2: space is closed. There's a daily flight out of Auckland 279 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:05,080 Speaker 2: from here to Doha, so you'll need to be ringing somebody. 280 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 2: Sex twenty five. 281 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 1: Trending now with Chemis's Warehouse the Real House of Vitamins. 282 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 2: Just to show you the world does continue to term. 283 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:15,080 Speaker 2: Not everyone, even on the Hill, as in Washington's Grip 284 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 2: by the Wars. Democrat Hack Johnson, he's the congressional wrap 285 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 2: for the fourth district in Georgia since two thousand and seven. 286 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:22,199 Speaker 2: He's busy. What's he busy doing? 287 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 8: Oh? 288 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 2: Black Music Month, He's he's giving Hey Joe a crack. 289 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 2: So he's decided to change the lyrics. And I think 290 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 2: the guitar could be an issue too. 291 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:44,960 Speaker 4: Hey Trump, where you going with that gun in your hand. 292 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:55,199 Speaker 11: On the street? 293 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:56,479 Speaker 13: Shootdown democracy? 294 00:13:57,000 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 2: Anyway? Speaking of Trump, he's going to be late to night. 295 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 2: NATO starts tonight our time in Europe where Catherine is, 296 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 2: so we'll go to her in the next half hour 297 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 2: of the program. Lux's there as well, of course, And 298 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:10,960 Speaker 2: the question is not only does he arrive late, but 299 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 2: is he going to leave early? And what do the 300 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 2: Europeans make of this? It's an interesting dance at the 301 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:17,960 Speaker 2: moment around the world as to who's all on board 302 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:20,880 Speaker 2: with the Americans versus who's a bit circumspect about the Americans, 303 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 2: who versus who's a bit sort of against the Americans. 304 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 2: Shane Jones is on the program after the news so 305 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 2: we've got to get to that. There is a bill. 306 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 2: I don't even know that this is a big thing, Napho. 307 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 2: If you haven't followed the white tangy circus, nap, who 308 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 2: are you one of the great holdouts that there's split 309 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 2: there's factions within factions and it's one of those deals. 310 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 2: It hasn't been done. So there's a bill being drafted 311 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 2: to just do a one stop shop. We'll talk to 312 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 2: him about that briefly. But more importantly, I would argue, 313 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 2: is this business of capping rates and killing regional counsels. 314 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 2: He seems to be driving this and from what you 315 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 2: heard from the Prime Minister yesterday on this program, it 316 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 2: seems to be real. It seems to be a thing. 317 00:14:57,800 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 2: So Shane Jones on that after the news Week Chiers. 318 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 1: Next the news and the news makers the Mic Hosking 319 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 1: Breakfast with the Defender actor the most powerful Defender ever made, 320 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 1: and news togs'd be. 321 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 2: Headline this morning. Could this be the most significant of 322 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 2: NATO since the Cold War? Captain Field on that in 323 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 2: a couple of moments many time back here at twenty 324 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 2: three to seven. One of the last cabs off the ranking. 325 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:25,000 Speaker 2: The seemingly never ending treaty settlements process is that of Napui. 326 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 2: The group is split, has been for years, and New 327 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 2: Zealand first currently drafting a bill that requires only one 328 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 2: settlement with them. Shane Jones is with us on this 329 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:32,800 Speaker 2: shamee morning to you. 330 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, morning, folks, could be. 331 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 2: A deadline imposed. Do you remember Bolder They had this 332 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 2: idea that we imposed the deadline you file your paperwork. 333 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 2: We sought this out once and for all, andfo we've 334 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 2: done that, we wouldn't be here now, Is that fair? 335 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 8: Yeah? 336 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 13: Look, we've reached a point where we can no longer 337 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 13: afford this hampster reel politics seton apool. He has descended 338 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 13: into our bill will ensure that HAPU sovereignty never gets 339 00:15:57,360 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 13: to mention undivided sovereignty. Undivided citizenship is what I believe in, 340 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 13: and more importantly, we cannot pay any longer after squander 341 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 13: well beyond twenty million dollars on the scarmple. He claim 342 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 13: we've tolerated cliche claptrap about sovereignty and it's about time 343 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 13: a line was laid down and our bill will do that. 344 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 2: Is the twenty million we've spent, has it got us 345 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 2: anything at all? 346 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 13: Absolutely zero people have perished. What we've ended up doing 347 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 13: with that money is rewarding consistently bad behavior where a 348 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 13: small group have actually distorted the prospects of the entire North, 349 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 13: and they seem to believe they can continually rehearse these 350 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 13: arguments and there's no financial implications. While I'm sorry, we're 351 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 13: struggling to build the oneer A hospital in a time 352 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 13: frame that suits the faring and a citizens. Meanwhile we've 353 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 13: got a tiny group up there lecturing the rest of 354 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 13: the nation and now introducing notions of sovereignty to hide 355 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 13: the claim. Well we're not. The taxpayer should not be 356 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 13: paying for such madness. And quite frankly, the Ken of 357 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:10,480 Speaker 13: New Zealand politics Chippy waiting and saying that he would 358 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 13: sign a settlement that acknowledging our puis sovereignty that on 359 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:16,520 Speaker 13: that point alone, the man should be ruled out of 360 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 13: public life forever. 361 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:21,359 Speaker 2: If the bill comes up and passes, does that potentially 362 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 2: from the Pouhi's point of view mean ideal, they won't 363 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:23,879 Speaker 2: sign it. 364 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 13: Well, we've got precedents. No one wanted to sign the 365 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 13: fisheries settlement that Bulger did in nineteen ninety two, and 366 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:34,280 Speaker 13: indeed labor didn't even vote for that, so there are precedents. 367 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 13: I mean, how long do the taxpayers want to keep 368 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:40,359 Speaker 13: paying money into an area that's already bleak in terms 369 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:46,400 Speaker 13: of economic prospects and rewarding perverse behavior that gets actually 370 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 13: more in my view, in my view, dismissive on the 371 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 13: rest of society. At each White Hockney celebration in February. 372 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:57,399 Speaker 13: Now we're bringing it to a head. There'll be no 373 00:17:57,600 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 13: Hapou sovereignty. There'll be no more indulgence of this sovereignty 374 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 13: clap trap, and people will come into the real world 375 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 13: because the settled claims we have to use taxpayers money. 376 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:09,919 Speaker 13: And unless you notice, that's in short supply. 377 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:10,160 Speaker 11: Mate. 378 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:13,120 Speaker 13: We've had the Afghan War, we've had bricks that, we've 379 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 13: had the Iraq War, and still these muppets are arguing 380 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:17,680 Speaker 13: about irrelevancies up home. 381 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:21,000 Speaker 2: Just quickly, you speech last week on regional councils. I 382 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 2: thought you were being you, but Luxon was on the 383 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:26,440 Speaker 2: program yesterday. This seems real. You will scrap regional councils. 384 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:29,680 Speaker 2: You may well cap rates as it is real. 385 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:33,920 Speaker 13: Oh and I've said all along that as the Regional 386 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:36,440 Speaker 13: Development Minister, I've learned to my costs that we do 387 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:40,800 Speaker 13: need a rationalization of local government, in particular regional government. 388 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:43,919 Speaker 13: Obviously we have to take that issue to the next election, 389 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 13: but we've got our party conference coming up. But we're 390 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 13: going to have robust treatments that change the trajectory of 391 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 13: our nation. We're not going to sit around indulging all 392 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:55,240 Speaker 13: of this, all of this wocus and which is driving 393 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 13: us broke. 394 00:18:56,119 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 2: Appreciate your time, Shane Jones, New Zealand first MP, Regional 395 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:02,000 Speaker 2: Affairs Minister and then for mining et cetera. It does 396 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:04,200 Speaker 2: give you. And this goes back to my comment yesterday 397 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:06,479 Speaker 2: just briefly that in all the polls that have been 398 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:08,040 Speaker 2: out in the last couple of weeks, there's been a 399 00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:11,879 Speaker 2: consistent performer and it's those guys. And perhaps from what 400 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:14,680 Speaker 2: you just heard You Can See Why nineteen two the. 401 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 1: Mic Hosking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered by 402 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:20,159 Speaker 1: News Talks a B. 403 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:23,480 Speaker 2: When you're over sixty five, you've learned a thing or 404 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:25,399 Speaker 2: two and have plenty of life experience to know what 405 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 2: you like to do and what you don't like to do. 406 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:29,880 Speaker 2: As each RV the living well community is unique, so 407 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:32,359 Speaker 2: are there resident lead clubs and activities. And this is 408 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 2: what makes them so special. The talented residents who live 409 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:37,919 Speaker 2: at RVD is living Well communities across this beautiful country 410 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 2: don't just join in on the activities, they actually create 411 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:43,480 Speaker 2: and they lead them as well. And every RVD community 412 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 2: is different because the residents in each community have different 413 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 2: passions and interests. There's the emiking, the cycle clubs, the arts, 414 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:52,399 Speaker 2: the crafts, the music, the singing groups, the sport, the 415 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 2: movement sessions, and of course the gardening clubs. Are residents 416 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:58,159 Speaker 2: can have a bee keeping, pickleball, croquet, you name it, 417 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 2: they do it. Group of brave resident Nelson originally did 418 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 2: the old Polar Plunge as well. Never too late to 419 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 2: try a new hobby or a club, especially with friends 420 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 2: and neighbors by your side, are vita a r v 421 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 2: I d A r vida dot co dot z and 422 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:15,640 Speaker 2: you can find an are Veda living well community near you. 423 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:19,720 Speaker 2: Pasking Lol, the Ken of New Zealand politics here. I 424 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 2: heard there's very clever. He's always got a good line. 425 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 2: God bless Shane, love him, Mike. My sixteen year old 426 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:28,720 Speaker 2: daughter just did Street Smart at Hampton Down's best investment 427 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 2: ever and I'm pleased to hear that anything I mentioned 428 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 2: it earlier in the program. If you, mister Tony Quinn 429 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 2: and Greg Murphy are behind this, it's real world driving 430 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 2: and learning to drive properly. It's the skill you will 431 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 2: never lose and you cannot place a value on it. 432 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 2: So I'm glad. I'm glad your daughter enjoyed it in the past. 433 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:48,440 Speaker 14: At six forty five International Correspondence with Zed Eye Insurance, 434 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 14: Peace of Mind for New Zealand Business. 435 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 2: All hyes globally are going to be on the center 436 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:55,160 Speaker 2: of Europe. And Catherine Fielder is here. Catherine, morning to you, 437 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:57,440 Speaker 2: Good morning mate. I'll deal with Nator in just a 438 00:20:57,480 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 2: couple of moments as regards what happened over the weekend 439 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:01,400 Speaker 2: with the the B twos and all of that sort 440 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:03,400 Speaker 2: of thing. Who's saying what so far? 441 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:08,359 Speaker 15: Well, up until a few hours ago, Mike, the general 442 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 15: response across Europe to the US attack on those three 443 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:16,560 Speaker 15: nuclear sites over the weekend, with no condemnation of US actions, 444 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:19,920 Speaker 15: but no congratulations at the same time, just as sort 445 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 15: of a preoccupation with events. However, just a couple of 446 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 15: hours ago, French President's Manuel Macron, who's meeting Norwegian prime minister. 447 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 9: Both of them came out and questioned. 448 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 15: The legality of those of those attacks. 449 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:38,679 Speaker 9: Certainly they said that there was a legitimacy. 450 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:43,239 Speaker 15: But it wasn't sort of legal in international law, and 451 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 15: both of them calling for return to negotiations and a 452 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:51,360 Speaker 15: plea for de escalation and enter the spiral of chaos. 453 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:53,880 Speaker 15: Of course that comes with the fear of some sort 454 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:58,160 Speaker 15: of retaliation blowback, not just in the Middle East exactly. 455 00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:01,439 Speaker 2: So the headliner read this morning, could this be the 456 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 2: most significant NATO since the Cold War? What do you think? 457 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:08,639 Speaker 15: Well, I guess it all depends who turns up, doesn't 458 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:10,360 Speaker 15: it make? I mean, it was meant to be two 459 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:14,639 Speaker 15: days to focus on defense spending. The thirty two members 460 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:19,160 Speaker 15: would turn up to discuss the future of NATO. Who's 461 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:21,880 Speaker 15: going to turn up, Will Donald Trump still turn up? 462 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 15: Will the focus be on Europe or will it be 463 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 15: what's happening in the Middle East. It's so much all 464 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:33,200 Speaker 15: up in the air now. They in fact, people are 465 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:36,199 Speaker 15: looking at the NATO summer preparations there. But at the 466 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:38,719 Speaker 15: same time I have to tell you, Mike, all eyes 467 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:40,920 Speaker 15: in Europe at the moment are on the White House. 468 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:43,720 Speaker 15: Everyone is sitting and waiting to see what the US 469 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:47,879 Speaker 15: president will do, will retaliate, what he will say. And 470 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:51,160 Speaker 15: for those who are perhaps looking about further away, this 471 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 15: big question of these attacks, these ballistic missile attacks against 472 00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 15: US bases in the Middle East, is it just a 473 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 15: symbolic tang or the start of something far more serious? 474 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:05,520 Speaker 15: And one of the interesting things that's come up like 475 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 15: is that it will have a major economic effect. Of course, 476 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:14,879 Speaker 15: Middle East dohadd buy major airline, commercial airline hubs. A 477 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 15: lot of those airspaces have been closed down in the 478 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 15: last couple of hours. 479 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:19,080 Speaker 9: This will have an economic effect. 480 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:22,399 Speaker 2: Of course, you're hitting the height of the tourist season 481 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:23,280 Speaker 2: and you're part of the world. 482 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 15: Of course, of course Europe has been having this bumper 483 00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:31,440 Speaker 15: tourist season and it's most usual now, particularly for people 484 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:34,200 Speaker 15: coming from the end of Pacific, they come in through Dohad, 485 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:38,680 Speaker 15: Dubai and all a couple of the other hubs, really 486 00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:41,879 Speaker 15: huge hubs in the Middle East and the golf. So 487 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:45,159 Speaker 15: is are we going to see this particular change of 488 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:48,440 Speaker 15: focus that Iran will target those economic. 489 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 2: Interests is a very interesting point that I've been thinking 490 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:52,680 Speaker 2: about this morning. So if you do NATO, how much 491 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:55,360 Speaker 2: of it's on Iran, how much of it's on Israel, 492 00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:58,440 Speaker 2: and how much of it's on Oh hello, remember me Ukraine? 493 00:23:59,560 --> 00:23:59,720 Speaker 4: Good? 494 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:04,760 Speaker 15: Yeah, Within the last week Ukraine and Gaza have pretty 495 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:08,920 Speaker 15: much gone off the agenda. And just today we see 496 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:12,119 Speaker 15: Zelenski is in the Hague. He was expected to be 497 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:14,479 Speaker 15: going to the NATO summit. He's now not going to attend, 498 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 15: but he's going to go to a banquet with the 499 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 15: King of the Netherlands. So yeah, that's certainly going to 500 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 15: be pushed off. 501 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:23,639 Speaker 9: But your message is still the same. 502 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:27,439 Speaker 15: Tone it down, Keep it down, try to keep this 503 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:32,199 Speaker 15: intact and realize that just everyone stay on message. And 504 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:36,000 Speaker 15: that message really has been that Iran cannot have any 505 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:38,359 Speaker 15: nuclear weapons, cannot go nuclear. 506 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:40,399 Speaker 9: But at the same time, the only. 507 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:42,960 Speaker 15: Way to get to that is by negotiations. 508 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:45,360 Speaker 2: By the way, just while we got you Khani, and 509 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 2: so he's joined up in the security defense partnership. I'm 510 00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:51,520 Speaker 2: assuming they rolled out the red carpet for him. What 511 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 2: does that actually mean? Is he now a part of 512 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 2: Europe or NATO or something. 513 00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:58,840 Speaker 15: As good a part of Europe as you could get? 514 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:01,440 Speaker 15: Might yet red car treatment galore. 515 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:04,040 Speaker 9: Part of this is being seen as a snub to 516 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 9: Donald Trump. 517 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:07,840 Speaker 15: Of course that Carney came to town, got this red 518 00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:11,600 Speaker 15: carpet treatment. This partnership has been described by the EU 519 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:15,760 Speaker 15: as giving Canada everything that the Kitchens think this is 520 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:20,080 Speaker 15: political economics, strategic partnership, or we're looking at We're looking 521 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:26,160 Speaker 15: at crisis management, maritime security, bilateral defense initiatives, cyber help, 522 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:29,240 Speaker 15: foreign information interference, help with counter terrorism. 523 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:33,160 Speaker 9: They honestly, Mike could not have given a non EU 524 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:34,719 Speaker 9: member more than that. 525 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:37,679 Speaker 2: Fantastic good to catch up. We'll talk soon. Catherine Field 526 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 2: in Europe for US this morning ten to seven, the 527 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:45,400 Speaker 2: Mic asking Breakfast with Bailey's real estate news dogs. There'd 528 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:48,639 Speaker 2: be Mike, oil prices and world recession. How about forteen 529 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:51,399 Speaker 2: missiles fired, forty missiles shut down? Andy, I tend to agree. 530 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:52,600 Speaker 2: I think I said at the very start of this. 531 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:53,639 Speaker 2: And when I say the start of the s I 532 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:55,960 Speaker 2: mean Israel Garza, not what's happened in the last couple 533 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:58,200 Speaker 2: of days. This has been going on for so long. 534 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:01,440 Speaker 2: It's just another booche nobt and we've seen it. And 535 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:03,200 Speaker 2: if you've been around a while, you've seen it before. 536 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:05,360 Speaker 2: And you've seen it before. You saw it before, and 537 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:08,119 Speaker 2: so it goes round. And therefore the alarmism that you 538 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:10,440 Speaker 2: hear in some of the headlines, I just don't know. 539 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 2: I think the market, the market's priced at all them. 540 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:15,880 Speaker 2: They've seen how this unfolds and how this plays out. Mike, 541 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:18,159 Speaker 2: So what's the twenty million that chain spoke up and 542 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:22,440 Speaker 2: been spent on the advocacy gravy trained on. Yes, it's meetings. 543 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:24,920 Speaker 2: Every time these people get together for a chin wag, 544 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 2: there's lunch and food and catering and flights and taxis 545 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 2: and hotels and accommodation. And you do that for decades 546 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:33,800 Speaker 2: before you know you've run up twenty million dollars worth 547 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:36,480 Speaker 2: of nothing. The French laws. I didn't have time to 548 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:38,080 Speaker 2: do it with Catherine this morning, but it's well worth 549 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:41,359 Speaker 2: looking at. It's a world first. They're looking to curb 550 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:45,600 Speaker 2: fast fashion. They're taxing ultra fast fashion brands and they're 551 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:49,240 Speaker 2: banning advertising in France. And I'm being a libertarian, I'm 552 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:51,240 Speaker 2: all for you buying whatever you want. But then again, 553 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:56,080 Speaker 2: I'm just not convinced that Chinese Shean Shine Timu stuff 554 00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 2: is doing the world any good. So the Senate almost 555 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 2: unanimously voted to pass this updated version of this legislation, 556 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:07,399 Speaker 2: which was first proposed last year. So it's basically targeting China. 557 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:11,520 Speaker 2: They've exempted Zara and H and M. The companies are 558 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:15,080 Speaker 2: rated according to an ECO score on sixteen environmental indicators, 559 00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:18,160 Speaker 2: carbon emissions, water consumption, all that stuff, and the lowest 560 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 2: ratings it's five euros per product up to ten euros 561 00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:24,800 Speaker 2: per product. The tax cannot exceed fifty percent of the 562 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:27,120 Speaker 2: product's price. But they're trying to tax them out of existence. 563 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:29,560 Speaker 2: And you know what I think, I'm for it. Five 564 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:30,840 Speaker 2: minutes away from seven. 565 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:34,720 Speaker 4: All the ins and the outs. It's the fizz with. 566 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:38,399 Speaker 1: Business Fiber take your business productivity to the next level. 567 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 2: Now the sensational New Zealand story of a company you 568 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:42,199 Speaker 2: may not have heard of. We have featured them on 569 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:45,600 Speaker 2: the program Halters. Now hlter look them up and see 570 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:48,399 Speaker 2: what they do. It's rural, yet again they are unicorns. 571 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:52,359 Speaker 2: So they are a company solar powered Cowcola Tech basically 572 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:56,320 Speaker 2: guides cattle by sound and vibration and it means farmers 573 00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:59,320 Speaker 2: can get rid of fencing. So the startup, they've achieved 574 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 2: at least a billion dollars in financing from capital rais. 575 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:04,760 Speaker 2: They've just raised one hundred and sixty five million in 576 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:06,960 Speaker 2: a funding round led by Bond who also invest in 577 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:08,480 Speaker 2: tech and the likes of their B and B Facebook 578 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:11,640 Speaker 2: and Spotify. That puts their value at the US one 579 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:13,720 Speaker 2: billion dollar mark. If you want to transfer it to 580 00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 2: the New Zealand PAYESO, it's one point sixty five billion. 581 00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:18,760 Speaker 2: The funding is going to help them expand and double 582 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:20,960 Speaker 2: their employee headcount to four hundred by the end of 583 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:25,280 Speaker 2: the year. They are a great news story, not only rural, 584 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:28,840 Speaker 2: but of course tech. So tech doesn't get enough coverage 585 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:30,639 Speaker 2: because tech is big in this country and there's a 586 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:32,639 Speaker 2: lot of real bright people around the place doing some 587 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:35,560 Speaker 2: wonderful things and they need more stories told about them. 588 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:40,000 Speaker 2: That so congratulations to them. That and the Golden Visa. 589 00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:43,480 Speaker 2: Isn't it amazing? Because the Golden Visa is not new. 590 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:47,000 Speaker 2: It was just tweaked. They did a couple of key things, 591 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 2: and all of a sudden, from nowhere come hundreds of 592 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 2: people with millions of dollars and the thing is a 593 00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 2: smash it. So just to remind you, you can come in 594 00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:58,680 Speaker 2: with five million or you can come in with ten million. 595 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:01,640 Speaker 2: This criteria associate added with each one hundred and eighty 596 00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:04,800 Speaker 2: ninety applications so far, and the money is flying. We 597 00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:07,240 Speaker 2: got close to a billion dollars worth of investment. So 598 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:08,959 Speaker 2: we'll look at the ramifications of that and whether we've 599 00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:11,400 Speaker 2: just got the low hanging fruit or whether there's more 600 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:14,080 Speaker 2: where that came from. Back to the business of banks 601 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 2: and small business lending we started this last week. There's 602 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:20,680 Speaker 2: a concern about banks not lending to SMEs the way 603 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:22,920 Speaker 2: they should be. What's going on. We'll talk to the 604 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:26,280 Speaker 2: banks about that. And Scott Robertson is back for another year. 605 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:28,640 Speaker 2: He's with us after eight meantime, us. 606 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:32,520 Speaker 1: This next the only report you need to start your 607 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:36,400 Speaker 1: day on my casting Breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate doing 608 00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:40,160 Speaker 1: real estate differently since nineteen seventy three, News Togsdad b. 609 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:41,840 Speaker 2: Only seven past seven, so it turns out the new 610 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:43,640 Speaker 2: Golden visa might just be a hit. So far, one 611 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:46,000 Speaker 2: hundred and eighty nine applications have been filed. That's more 612 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:47,960 Speaker 2: than two months than they got under the previous government 613 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:50,320 Speaker 2: in over two and a half years. The investment pipeline's 614 00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:53,480 Speaker 2: about eight hundred million dollars in counting. Marcus Beveridge is 615 00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:57,560 Speaker 2: managing director of Queen's Queen City Law And as with us, 616 00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:02,560 Speaker 2: Marcus morning, good morning, make under well, And the process 617 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:06,320 Speaker 2: application to acceptance is that working? Do we know yet 618 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:06,520 Speaker 2: or not? 619 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:11,360 Speaker 16: It's look, it's it's all firing up and going really 620 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:14,560 Speaker 16: really well. And where you know, I predicted a tsunami 621 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:17,080 Speaker 16: of capital into our little economy. It's one of the 622 00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:20,360 Speaker 16: few rays of sunshine we've had in all the economic 623 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:24,000 Speaker 16: gloom recently. And honestly, I wouldn't be at all surprised 624 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,560 Speaker 16: if we don't exceed ten billion dollars a year coming 625 00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:30,960 Speaker 16: through this program, which is the immigration side of the money, 626 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:33,960 Speaker 16: and then often those migrants bring further fund so we 627 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:36,560 Speaker 16: could end up with twenty thirty billion dollars per anum 628 00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:37,440 Speaker 16: if we keep going. 629 00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:39,760 Speaker 2: And so I was going to ask, do you reckon 630 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:42,240 Speaker 2: this is low hanging fruit and it's the easy get. 631 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:45,240 Speaker 2: You're arguing, No, there's plenty more where that came from. 632 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:49,280 Speaker 16: Well, look, there's about they've mapped out about twenty thousand 633 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:51,600 Speaker 16: millionaires move around the world every year. I mean, our 634 00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:54,760 Speaker 16: one hundred is peanuts compared to do by recruiting seven 635 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:58,640 Speaker 16: thousand millionaires a year, and some of the other countries, 636 00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:00,880 Speaker 16: I mean the States three and a half a thousand, 637 00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:04,280 Speaker 16: it'llly two and a half thousand. So our hundred is small, 638 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:09,200 Speaker 16: small potatoes, but there is enormous potential. And with some 639 00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:11,760 Speaker 16: of the stuff going on in the globe, there's more 640 00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:14,400 Speaker 16: and more reason, more compelling reasons that come down this way. 641 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:16,560 Speaker 17: So a lot of exciting stuff. 642 00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:20,560 Speaker 16: We're camped out with some developers looking at some downtown 643 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:23,760 Speaker 16: hotels in Auckland. At the moment yesterday we had people 644 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,840 Speaker 16: in the office looking at a tourism venture and rotea 645 00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:29,680 Speaker 16: ru These projects simply can't get out of the ground 646 00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 16: without the sort of funding. So yeah, it looks really exciting, 647 00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:34,640 Speaker 16: and I just I just hope it keeps going. 648 00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 17: Some of the rules are a bit clunky, but ah, anyway. 649 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:39,640 Speaker 2: Well I was going to ask you about that is 650 00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:42,240 Speaker 2: we got a twofold thing. One are we seen as 651 00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:45,560 Speaker 2: a safe haven? Is that genuine? And or are the 652 00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:48,880 Speaker 2: details and what we're offering more beneficial to some of 653 00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:50,960 Speaker 2: those other markets that you were talking about or not. 654 00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:56,000 Speaker 16: So, yes, we are seen as a safe haven with 655 00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:57,760 Speaker 16: the rule of law and all those sorts of things 656 00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:01,800 Speaker 16: and you know, well established legal systemlah blah. But you know, 657 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:03,840 Speaker 16: and Dubai, I think it's just all about being a 658 00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:06,760 Speaker 16: tax exempt for a number of years. But here under 659 00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:08,920 Speaker 16: this program you get your residency for life. 660 00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:10,600 Speaker 17: So Australia shut the door. 661 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:14,680 Speaker 16: They've also banned foreign buyers on housing til twenty twenty seven. 662 00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:17,560 Speaker 16: The sort of experts out of Sydney seem to think 663 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:19,720 Speaker 16: they've shut the door to the Golden visa for the 664 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:22,479 Speaker 16: next six years. So there's a lot of pent up 665 00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:25,160 Speaker 16: demand out of people in the queue over there have 666 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:27,720 Speaker 16: been sitting in a queue for several years and we're 667 00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:29,000 Speaker 16: trying to exploit all of that. 668 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:32,600 Speaker 17: So you know, I mean, if they unleash. 669 00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:35,640 Speaker 16: If they take away the restriction on home ownership, to 670 00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:38,760 Speaker 16: which I think will happen, I think, you know, that 671 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:40,800 Speaker 16: just be more and more funds flowing into our comments. 672 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:42,560 Speaker 2: Is that the clunky but you're talking about, Is that 673 00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:43,760 Speaker 2: the major impediment. 674 00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:46,360 Speaker 17: No, No, we don't. 675 00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:48,600 Speaker 16: See it as that much of an impediment because you know, 676 00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:50,600 Speaker 16: for the guys who only want to stay three weeks 677 00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:52,680 Speaker 16: and three years, they probably don't even need need a home, 678 00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:54,760 Speaker 16: and under the OIO rules they can actually buy a 679 00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:56,720 Speaker 16: home here in any event. 680 00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:59,040 Speaker 17: So we don't see that per se as an impediment. 681 00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:04,000 Speaker 16: But in terms of industrial and commercial and residential property development, 682 00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:08,000 Speaker 16: the way the rules are formulated are difficult and it 683 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:10,120 Speaker 16: sort of pushes people into bonds and shares. 684 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:13,360 Speaker 2: Right, So the split so far, there's only seven that's 685 00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:15,280 Speaker 2: actually been approved. In the money flowed in the country, 686 00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:17,320 Speaker 2: five went one way, too went the other five went 687 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:20,000 Speaker 2: for growth, too went for balanced. Is that an issue 688 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,160 Speaker 2: at all? It will be what it will be. 689 00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:26,200 Speaker 17: No, You'll end up with several hundred families per around them. 690 00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:28,040 Speaker 16: Eighty percent of them will go into that five million 691 00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:30,760 Speaker 16: dollar thing that's growth, and the balance will get the 692 00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:32,760 Speaker 16: rest will go into that ten million thing called balance. 693 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:37,480 Speaker 16: But that fact that only that small number is converted 694 00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:40,480 Speaker 16: from a couple of hundred families is not a big issue. 695 00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:44,640 Speaker 17: They will all convert and it's just a timing factor. 696 00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:48,400 Speaker 16: Really, because we're expecting quite an explosion of applications over 697 00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:50,040 Speaker 16: the next couple of months because it's only been rounds. 698 00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:50,960 Speaker 17: It's the first of April. 699 00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:53,680 Speaker 16: You have to have your pleae, certificates, medical stiff gets 700 00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:55,760 Speaker 16: source of funds, all this stuff ready to go and 701 00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:58,080 Speaker 16: given to the bureaucrats and Wellington. 702 00:33:57,680 --> 00:33:58,360 Speaker 17: To get approved. 703 00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:01,360 Speaker 16: So there's a bit of time compiling all of that, 704 00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:03,200 Speaker 16: so we'll expect the next couple of months to be 705 00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:03,800 Speaker 16: quite busy. 706 00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:04,160 Speaker 17: Ones. 707 00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:06,320 Speaker 2: Fantastic good on you, Marcus, notice to catch up, appreciate 708 00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:08,160 Speaker 2: it and good to hear the good news. Marcus Beverage, 709 00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:10,800 Speaker 2: who's the managing director and immigration lawyer at Queen's City 710 00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:14,399 Speaker 2: Law eleven minutes past seven, just by the way, also 711 00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:17,800 Speaker 2: announced yesterday overseas investment decisions are being made twice as fast. 712 00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:20,880 Speaker 2: This is from the Land Information People under a director 713 00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:23,239 Speaker 2: from David Seymour, who's in chargeable or that process eighty 714 00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:27,240 Speaker 2: percent of consent applications and half the statutory time frames 715 00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:30,000 Speaker 2: eighty eight percent of those applications processed and half the 716 00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:32,560 Speaker 2: time frame. The processing times are produced by thirty nine 717 00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:36,520 Speaker 2: percent than the previous financial year, seventy one working days 718 00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:39,319 Speaker 2: down to twenty eight working days. Now, that's not going 719 00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:41,680 Speaker 2: to turn anyone's vote or swing an election their way, 720 00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:45,280 Speaker 2: but things are starting to look a little bit more organized, 721 00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:49,360 Speaker 2: which is good right. Shane Jones on the program earlier 722 00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:51,200 Speaker 2: floated the idea in the speech last week and the 723 00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:52,960 Speaker 2: Prime Minister on the show yesterday picked it up and 724 00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:55,319 Speaker 2: ran with it. Are we heading for the scrapping of 725 00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:57,399 Speaker 2: some regional councils, if not all of them? He also 726 00:34:57,400 --> 00:34:59,680 Speaker 2: talked of capping rates. Of course. Now Sambrun's the President 727 00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:01,520 Speaker 2: of the Law Local Government New Zealand and he has 728 00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:03,040 Speaker 2: well there's Sam, very good morning to you. 729 00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:04,200 Speaker 17: Yeah, good morning. 730 00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:06,320 Speaker 2: Make do those thoughts fill you with horror? 731 00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:09,480 Speaker 18: I think we need to think about the system of 732 00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:12,480 Speaker 18: local government we've got in New Zealand and take an 733 00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:15,000 Speaker 18: approach that's not just about one off announcements or what 734 00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:17,800 Speaker 18: a particular minister might think, but what's the future system 735 00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:19,840 Speaker 18: of local government and central government that we want to 736 00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:22,600 Speaker 18: see in New Zealand. It's been asked before and I 737 00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:24,120 Speaker 18: think it's a good question to ask ourselves. 738 00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:25,640 Speaker 2: Do we have too many councils? 739 00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:28,719 Speaker 18: I think when we look across the border, I don't 740 00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:30,799 Speaker 18: think that the system set up in nineteen eighty nine 741 00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:34,399 Speaker 18: is currently fit for purpose today. So we can look 742 00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:37,240 Speaker 18: across the world. Some places have more councils, some places 743 00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:40,160 Speaker 18: have far less, and that's a question that we should 744 00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:42,040 Speaker 18: definitely ask ourselves. At the moment, though it seems like 745 00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:46,680 Speaker 18: we're going through change based on some ad hoc decision making. 746 00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:49,640 Speaker 18: So we'll change local government because water has changed. We'll 747 00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:52,160 Speaker 18: change local government because only made changes. We'll change local 748 00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:55,600 Speaker 18: government because the building consent authorities change. And we should 749 00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:58,200 Speaker 18: actually take a much more strategic approach to this and 750 00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:00,680 Speaker 18: say what future system would we like to say if. 751 00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:02,839 Speaker 2: We were going to tackle councils, if we agreed there 752 00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:05,400 Speaker 2: are too many of them, is it regional or local 753 00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:06,000 Speaker 2: or both? 754 00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:09,160 Speaker 18: You would go at I think it's a system that 755 00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:12,440 Speaker 18: we should ask that question about. So in different regions 756 00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:15,040 Speaker 18: might look different and there might be different systems that 757 00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:16,720 Speaker 18: could be set up. But until we have a proper 758 00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:18,840 Speaker 18: structured conversation about it, I think it's too early to 759 00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:21,240 Speaker 18: say where we should and shouldn't change things. 760 00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:25,400 Speaker 2: What about capping? Would you be upset at. 761 00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:27,320 Speaker 17: That rates caping? 762 00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:28,360 Speaker 2: Yeah? 763 00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:29,319 Speaker 17: Yeah, rates keeping. 764 00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:31,480 Speaker 18: The international evidence shows that it actually can have a 765 00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:34,640 Speaker 18: pretty detrimental effect, even in areas where a government might 766 00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:37,000 Speaker 18: not intend it to have so rates camping sort of 767 00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:42,800 Speaker 18: excludes core infrastructure and water and transport, even those things 768 00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:46,279 Speaker 18: get hurt. It can lift councils borrowing costs, as we've 769 00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:49,759 Speaker 18: seen in New Zealand already and the examples in Australia, 770 00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:53,959 Speaker 18: so that those states that have rates caping, New South 771 00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:58,439 Speaker 18: Wales and Victoria actually had higher rates increases than South 772 00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:00,680 Speaker 18: Australia where there was no KEP in place. 773 00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:03,719 Speaker 2: What do you forget your view? Forget the government's view 774 00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:05,439 Speaker 2: of the day popular with the public. Do you reckon 775 00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:06,880 Speaker 2: if the government came out and said we're going to 776 00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:08,960 Speaker 2: get rid of regional councils? Am we going to cap rate? 777 00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:11,240 Speaker 2: So you take a poll, do you reckon it gets backing? 778 00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:14,680 Speaker 18: I think you know, regional councils have a role to 779 00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:18,680 Speaker 18: do and that's around what the public sees as around compliance, 780 00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:21,839 Speaker 18: and you know councils that run compliance that can really 781 00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:25,239 Speaker 18: annoy people. So I can understand where people might not 782 00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:28,280 Speaker 18: enjoy seeing councils and want to take control of councils 783 00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:30,800 Speaker 18: that rhetoric it as popular. I think we need to 784 00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:32,600 Speaker 18: think about what they see as the effect of the 785 00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:35,600 Speaker 18: change we want to implement. And this requires more of 786 00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:39,000 Speaker 18: a conversation than just a reaction to something that might sandkle. 787 00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:41,440 Speaker 2: Okay, Sam, appreciate it. Sam Broughton, who's the local government 788 00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:45,000 Speaker 2: New Zealand President's fifteen minutes past seven, PASKI I'm just 789 00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:47,480 Speaker 2: at JFK Airport, Mike, listening before I bought the flight 790 00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:49,640 Speaker 2: home to Auckland. Are surprised over the past month how 791 00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:53,600 Speaker 2: well received New Zealand passports are when crossing borders, particularly 792 00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:56,160 Speaker 2: in Europe. Even had one immigration officer tell me ours 793 00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:57,880 Speaker 2: is the best. Well, that's nice, I guess. Enjoy your 794 00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:01,760 Speaker 2: flight home? Welldie, Mike. If oil prices have dropped overnight, 795 00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:07,120 Speaker 2: why have z and taranaki price has gone up? I 796 00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:10,640 Speaker 2: will work you through this one more time after the 797 00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:12,759 Speaker 2: break fifteen past the. 798 00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:18,040 Speaker 1: Like asking Breakfast full show podcast on iHeartRadio, Howard By 799 00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:20,120 Speaker 1: News talks at be Mike. 800 00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:22,360 Speaker 2: Of course Imbroughton doesn't want capping on rate. You just 801 00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:24,840 Speaker 2: push fourteen point two percent rate rise in the Selwyn district. 802 00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:25,640 Speaker 2: He'll be down the road. 803 00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:25,839 Speaker 3: Mix. 804 00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:29,440 Speaker 2: Well, Willy, I mean you're voting, Mike. Council's a pack 805 00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:32,040 Speaker 2: of lefty parasites and a retirement home for failed left 806 00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:33,840 Speaker 2: wing politicians. All they need to do is look at 807 00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:36,680 Speaker 2: what toy has done to Wellington Mike local government, mediocre people, 808 00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:39,400 Speaker 2: building empires on the public tip. But apart from that, 809 00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,160 Speaker 2: everything seems to be fine. Right, one more time on 810 00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:45,839 Speaker 2: the oil. So when you ask me when the oil 811 00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:49,640 Speaker 2: price drops overnight wide, hasn't reflected it your Bowser and Taranaki, 812 00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:52,680 Speaker 2: The answer is because oil is but one component in 813 00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:55,560 Speaker 2: the overall cost of what you pay at a retail level. 814 00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:57,839 Speaker 2: What you really should be looking at, and we've said 815 00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:00,040 Speaker 2: this many times on the program, is the cost of 816 00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:03,160 Speaker 2: the refined product refined product, not the cost of the oil. 817 00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:06,279 Speaker 2: The refined product as it arrives in the country from 818 00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:08,920 Speaker 2: mainly Singapore, and part of that will be the cost 819 00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:12,439 Speaker 2: of refining it from oil into a petroleum product. Part 820 00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:14,000 Speaker 2: of it will be the cost of running the ship 821 00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:16,480 Speaker 2: from Singapore to New Zealand. Part of it will be 822 00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:19,000 Speaker 2: the transportation once it arrives in New Zealand from wherever 823 00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:21,840 Speaker 2: it arrives to your bowser in Taranaki. Part of it 824 00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:24,359 Speaker 2: will be the value of the dollar at any given time. 825 00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:28,560 Speaker 2: So there are many, many many moving parts in the 826 00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:32,600 Speaker 2: ongoing price at any given time, what happened on New 827 00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:36,280 Speaker 2: York and Exchange the day before will not be reflected 828 00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:40,000 Speaker 2: in Taranaki for many days to come. We'll get back 829 00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:43,000 Speaker 2: to the acc story started that yesterday, Part two this 830 00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:44,640 Speaker 2: morning shortly seven twenty. 831 00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:51,000 Speaker 1: The Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio, Power 832 00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:52,680 Speaker 1: It by News talksp. 833 00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:54,640 Speaker 4: Right. 834 00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:56,319 Speaker 2: If you're a business leader, you're well aware of how 835 00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:59,960 Speaker 2: important successful response to a potential customer's request for proposal 836 00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:02,600 Speaker 2: is to your future success. 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Part two of our acc story that we 858 00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:10,360 Speaker 2: started yesterday claims through the roof billions of dollars seven 859 00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:12,360 Speaker 2: billion of them in fact, handed out each year to 860 00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:14,680 Speaker 2: a country that insists on falling over and spraining and 861 00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:17,319 Speaker 2: breaking things, a lot of it having nothing to do 862 00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:20,640 Speaker 2: with work, thousands in the garden, injuring themselves, and yet 863 00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:23,280 Speaker 2: receiving money from a system that can't keep up financially, 864 00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:26,600 Speaker 2: and then use yesterday that more troubles ahead. Only one 865 00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:30,920 Speaker 2: percent of the three point six billion that had been 866 00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:33,520 Speaker 2: set aside has been handed out to the thousands upon 867 00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:37,759 Speaker 2: thousands that they think will eventually claim in this expanded 868 00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:40,720 Speaker 2: set of measures, as decided a couple of years ago 869 00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:44,640 Speaker 2: by a court. So loss of potential earnings from the 870 00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:48,480 Speaker 2: time you were injured as opposed to from the time 871 00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:51,640 Speaker 2: you claimed or started treatment. Now that was the court decision. 872 00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:55,319 Speaker 2: This includes that our infamous sexual abuse. Of course, it's 873 00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:57,759 Speaker 2: just a view. It's an interpretation. But because it's the 874 00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:02,440 Speaker 2: Court of Appeals interpretation, the bill is lord knows what 875 00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:06,560 Speaker 2: the three point six billion. That's a guess on ACC's 876 00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:09,480 Speaker 2: part as to what it could cost, also a guess 877 00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:11,320 Speaker 2: as to how many people are going to be claiming 878 00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:15,120 Speaker 2: from the time of injury. Now think about that. The 879 00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:18,120 Speaker 2: longer ago, it was the money of the details. Get 880 00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:22,600 Speaker 2: who decides and how consistent is that decision making process? 881 00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:24,840 Speaker 2: To what extent does that process open to a challenge, 882 00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:27,600 Speaker 2: How long does that take, how many lawyers are involved? 883 00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:30,759 Speaker 2: It is the Pandora's box of boxes. And yet poor 884 00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:33,799 Speaker 2: old ACC are merely the recipients of that thinking. They 885 00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:36,279 Speaker 2: are the poor SAPs who have to put it into 886 00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:39,400 Speaker 2: place using money they almost certainly don't have. Nikola Willis, 887 00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:42,640 Speaker 2: you realize now calculates her expected to return to surplus 888 00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:46,239 Speaker 2: by not including these numbers, such as the gargantuan and 889 00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:50,040 Speaker 2: unpredictable nature of them. The ACC Minister quite rightly is 890 00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:52,080 Speaker 2: working on law to rain some of this madness in. 891 00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:55,440 Speaker 2: As I said yesterday, like so many altruistic decisions, it 892 00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:57,600 Speaker 2: gets away with itself and before you know it, you're 893 00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:01,280 Speaker 2: handing out money to everyone and you're broke. Here's my idea, 894 00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:05,520 Speaker 2: call me simple. How about if you can't work, I e. 895 00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:09,120 Speaker 2: You can't earn, there's a scheme for you beyond that. 896 00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:13,440 Speaker 2: How about it's kind of on you? I mean, is 897 00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:15,520 Speaker 2: that really that radical? For goodness sake? 898 00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:16,680 Speaker 4: Tasking? 899 00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:21,640 Speaker 2: Luxeon's met with vander Layin. I know, I know, before 900 00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:23,600 Speaker 2: you go, get another cup of coffee. Here are the details? 901 00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:26,680 Speaker 2: What are the detail? 902 00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:28,560 Speaker 17: Knew? 903 00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:32,720 Speaker 2: Nothing really happened. It's working through it. Here. Discussions focused 904 00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:36,440 Speaker 2: on warm and deepening the partnership. They discussed the potential 905 00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:39,919 Speaker 2: for closer cooperation, the bit of tech and innovation talk, 906 00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:42,920 Speaker 2: and New Zealand's entry into Horizon Europe. Horizon Europe is 907 00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:45,480 Speaker 2: about research and innovation. That would be if we get in, 908 00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:47,960 Speaker 2: we would be the first non neighbor country to join. 909 00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:51,279 Speaker 2: So I suppose that's something good. They welcomed future cooperation 910 00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:55,440 Speaker 2: on digital technologies including digital identity, digital business, Wallace initiatives, 911 00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:57,800 Speaker 2: et cetera. So clearly he's filling time until Trump arrives. 912 00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:02,160 Speaker 2: Imagine if he gets a pull aside with Trump and Albanzi, 913 00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:05,000 Speaker 2: who hasn't gone. There's something weird going on with Albanzi. 914 00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:08,560 Speaker 2: He yesterday watches press conference yesterday, that guy was so 915 00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:12,239 Speaker 2: not interested in talking about the war, any war. You've 916 00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:14,319 Speaker 2: never seen a guy less interested in talking about war 917 00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:17,120 Speaker 2: or Trump or NATO or going anywhere. So he's not 918 00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:19,600 Speaker 2: going to NATO. Miles is but a blux and gets 919 00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:21,840 Speaker 2: to pull a side with Trump. Yes, who wins on 920 00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:25,080 Speaker 2: the old diplomatic front there right? Business lending back to 921 00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:27,399 Speaker 2: that story we started next week, will do that after 922 00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:27,840 Speaker 2: the News. 923 00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:33,480 Speaker 4: New Zealand's voice of Reason is Mike. 924 00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:38,520 Speaker 1: The Mic asking Breakfast with Veda, Retirement Communities, Life Your Way, 925 00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:39,520 Speaker 1: News togsed B. 926 00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:42,799 Speaker 2: Scott Robinson is back for another year as the old 927 00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:44,479 Speaker 2: Blacks of the French are coming. Of course, the side 928 00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:46,360 Speaker 2: was named all the widest squad was named yesterday and 929 00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:48,040 Speaker 2: you may catch up with him after eight o'clock mean 930 00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:49,799 Speaker 2: time twenty three minutes away from ITE. Let's pick up 931 00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:52,080 Speaker 2: where we left off last week on small business lending. 932 00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:55,360 Speaker 2: Figure show is softening across all bank business lending A 933 00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:57,640 Speaker 2: and Z our biggest bank of course, actually going backwards 934 00:44:57,640 --> 00:44:59,520 Speaker 2: on that. Over All the growth rates dropped from six 935 00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:02,320 Speaker 2: percent in twenty thirteen. This is for everyone, not just 936 00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:05,160 Speaker 2: DA in Z six percent in twenty thirteen to one 937 00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:07,600 Speaker 2: and a half percent. So what's going on here? Antony 938 00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:10,480 Speaker 2: Watson is the CEO of A n Z and is 939 00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:13,600 Speaker 2: with this good morning, Good morning Mike. Is there a 940 00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:14,640 Speaker 2: thing or not? 941 00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:18,480 Speaker 12: Well, there's a thing which I can explain. But the 942 00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:20,160 Speaker 12: thing I'm delighted to be able to tell you is 943 00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:22,600 Speaker 12: that we are growing and have been growing lending to 944 00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:25,879 Speaker 12: small and medium businesses and that's been despite there's been 945 00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:29,280 Speaker 12: a lot more non bank lender activity. I can explain 946 00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:32,920 Speaker 12: why the reduction if you want me to. Selling you 947 00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:36,040 Speaker 12: DC was the first thing that we did in twenty twenty, 948 00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:38,680 Speaker 12: and then the big impact really has been a drop. 949 00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:42,480 Speaker 12: And lending to commercial property now there's several reasons for that. 950 00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:45,160 Speaker 12: You've got developments that would have been done as interest 951 00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:48,479 Speaker 12: rates were lower, that then completed and then got paid off, 952 00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:51,240 Speaker 12: and in that period of time you had interstrate interest 953 00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:55,600 Speaker 12: rates increasing, times got tougher, so not so much new demand. 954 00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:58,759 Speaker 12: And our decision so that this was our decision, was 955 00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:02,120 Speaker 12: to support our existing customers as interest rates are increasing 956 00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:05,640 Speaker 12: and things are getting tougher, rather than taking on new customers. 957 00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:07,759 Speaker 12: So the big drop in our lending has been from 958 00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:10,560 Speaker 12: property as opposed to smaller medium businesses. 959 00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:12,560 Speaker 2: Okay, are you taking on new customers now? 960 00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:13,920 Speaker 8: Absolutely. 961 00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:16,480 Speaker 12: We've had seven thousand customers sign up in the first 962 00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:18,760 Speaker 12: half to our how to campaign, and that's a campaign 963 00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:20,839 Speaker 12: about helping you know, you've got this this thing about 964 00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:22,560 Speaker 12: you've got to get through the first two years when 965 00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:25,000 Speaker 12: you're a new business. We've got that's helping them get 966 00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:26,160 Speaker 12: through that first two years. 967 00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:29,080 Speaker 2: Okay. And now those people new clients or people who 968 00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:31,360 Speaker 2: had borrowing elsewhere and came to you, just in a 969 00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:35,400 Speaker 2: competition type way, it would be a mix. 970 00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:38,840 Speaker 12: And it will be new startups and reasonably new businesses. 971 00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:41,880 Speaker 12: That was part of the part of the requirements for 972 00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:42,480 Speaker 12: the package. 973 00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:45,360 Speaker 2: Okay. Part of the explanation last week seemed to be 974 00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:47,600 Speaker 2: that there are rules that you guys have to carry 975 00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:51,360 Speaker 2: extra capital to back up business lending is that true. 976 00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:54,040 Speaker 2: And if it is true, how much of it is it? 977 00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:56,160 Speaker 2: And is it a burden? 978 00:46:57,840 --> 00:46:58,880 Speaker 13: So yes, it's true. 979 00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:01,839 Speaker 12: Exactly how much it is I couldn't tell you off 980 00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:03,480 Speaker 12: the top of my head because it's once you get 981 00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:05,800 Speaker 12: into business leanding, it's very risk based and it depends 982 00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:08,520 Speaker 12: on the individual business. But it is riskier lending to 983 00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:12,680 Speaker 12: businesses than lending to householders who have a home and 984 00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:14,800 Speaker 12: good equity in their home to back up for lending. 985 00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:17,480 Speaker 12: So that's the reason we hold more capital. It isn't 986 00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:19,879 Speaker 12: a constraint. We're not constrained with our capital. We don't 987 00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:22,320 Speaker 12: sit there and think we'd rather do lending to housing 988 00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:25,040 Speaker 12: and to businesses. We're open to both. We're interested in 989 00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:28,240 Speaker 12: leanding to anyone who's got a good plan that shows 990 00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:29,640 Speaker 12: that they can pay us back over time. 991 00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:31,640 Speaker 2: Right, I'll come back to the planned thing in a moment. 992 00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:35,920 Speaker 2: Would you be generally thinking that this view that you 993 00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:37,759 Speaker 2: hold is the view of all the major banks in 994 00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:39,839 Speaker 2: the country in terms of lending to business. 995 00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:45,279 Speaker 12: Overall, I would suspect so, yes, But you do have 996 00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:47,600 Speaker 12: to look through the numbers. You know, the Reserve bank 997 00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:49,920 Speaker 12: numbers that they publish are reasonby blunt because they're at 998 00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:52,480 Speaker 12: noble business. They're well. Another thing that you know we 999 00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:56,040 Speaker 12: see in our portfolio is our lending to very large institutions. 1000 00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:58,799 Speaker 12: I think we've been out had about seven billion dollars 1001 00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:01,040 Speaker 12: out since the time I joined the sixteen years ago. 1002 00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:03,400 Speaker 12: Because as soon as your nam gets to say one 1003 00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:06,160 Speaker 12: hundred two hundred million dollars, you want to syndicate that 1004 00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:08,720 Speaker 12: amongst a lot of banks so that you're still breading 1005 00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:10,799 Speaker 12: the risk, and often you'll get them to borrow their 1006 00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:12,240 Speaker 12: own money in the debt capital market. 1007 00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:12,600 Speaker 4: Good. 1008 00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:14,640 Speaker 2: I'm glad to hear this explanation because what I couldn't 1009 00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:17,719 Speaker 2: work out in the numbers is that there seems to 1010 00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:20,279 Speaker 2: be and in fact, I know there's a record number 1011 00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:22,440 Speaker 2: of business sales in this country. There's never been more 1012 00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:24,600 Speaker 2: interested in buying businesses. And I'm assuming some of those 1013 00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:26,760 Speaker 2: people at least need to borrow from banks and therefore 1014 00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:28,480 Speaker 2: are borrowing to buy businesses. 1015 00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:31,839 Speaker 12: Yes, but I think the thing to remember there is 1016 00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:35,280 Speaker 12: the difference between equity and debt funding. So the first 1017 00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:37,600 Speaker 12: thing you need is you need some cattle behind you, 1018 00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:39,839 Speaker 12: because the minute you take on a debt, you're having 1019 00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:42,359 Speaker 12: to pay interest on that. So you know, we see 1020 00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:45,439 Speaker 12: businesses that are undercapitalized, and it's important that you also 1021 00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:47,480 Speaker 12: have their equity behind you when you start a business 1022 00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:47,879 Speaker 12: as well. 1023 00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:50,479 Speaker 2: Okay, one of the criticisms we got when we raised 1024 00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:53,400 Speaker 2: this last week was raised last week was that there's 1025 00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:55,400 Speaker 2: no one in the bank. And this is not necessarily 1026 00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:58,880 Speaker 2: you specifically, but it's banks generally that aren't business specialists. 1027 00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:00,680 Speaker 2: In other words, you do it all by computer. You 1028 00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:02,919 Speaker 2: tap in a few numbers and some answer comes back, 1029 00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:04,400 Speaker 2: and you've got it all you haven't got Is that 1030 00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:04,920 Speaker 2: true or not? 1031 00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:08,319 Speaker 12: We have Oh, I can't give you the number off 1032 00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:09,960 Speaker 12: the top of my head, but we have many business 1033 00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:12,480 Speaker 12: specialists who are sitting ready to help our customers. And 1034 00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:14,520 Speaker 12: I say, feel like they're not getting to help. They 1035 00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:15,880 Speaker 12: need get them to email me. 1036 00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:19,160 Speaker 2: Right, So there are people right broadly speaking at mortgage rates. 1037 00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:21,080 Speaker 2: Where are we heading? What do you think for July 1038 00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:23,120 Speaker 2: and August on the Reserve Bank? Go on, give us 1039 00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:26,279 Speaker 2: the big, big economic read here, Antonia, I don't know. 1040 00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:29,000 Speaker 12: I know that Sharon Zolner is saying that they're probably 1041 00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:31,680 Speaker 12: might be seeing some more decreases. The problem is you've 1042 00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:35,920 Speaker 12: got this uncertainty and got speaking about business uncertainty, is 1043 00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:38,600 Speaker 12: the worst thing for business. I mean, could the current 1044 00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:41,239 Speaker 12: situation in the Middle East increase oil prices and have 1045 00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:43,439 Speaker 12: a knock on effect and suddenly we've got inflation again 1046 00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:45,960 Speaker 12: and the Reserve Bank can't lower rates, or could it 1047 00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:48,080 Speaker 12: lead to a recession and therefore they do lower rates 1048 00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:51,400 Speaker 12: to simulate the economy. I just you haven't seen the 1049 00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:52,920 Speaker 12: situation with this much uncertainty. 1050 00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:55,680 Speaker 2: I think maybe what would you at a drink after 1051 00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:58,719 Speaker 2: work when they go WHOA, what's new Zealand feel like, 1052 00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:00,840 Speaker 2: what's your answer? What's the word you were using? 1053 00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:06,719 Speaker 12: My answer is sort of green shoots, but uncertainty. So 1054 00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:10,360 Speaker 12: I think the situation where in now is that whilst 1055 00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:14,120 Speaker 12: we can see some improvement, you can see milk prices 1056 00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:17,360 Speaker 12: and agree and interest rates coming down, so people have 1057 00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:19,759 Speaker 12: got more money in their pockets. I think we've just 1058 00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:23,680 Speaker 12: not quite got the confidence because of that uncertainty to 1059 00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:26,120 Speaker 12: spend it on going out to dinner or spend it 1060 00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:27,960 Speaker 12: on investing something in your business. 1061 00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:30,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, good insight, pre checked time as always, Antonia Watson. 1062 00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:33,200 Speaker 2: Hopefully that aren't at least most of our question. Seventeen 1063 00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:36,719 Speaker 2: minutes away from eight Husky car nine two one mic 1064 00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:39,359 Speaker 2: from Auckland to doh has just landed a musket in 1065 00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:43,200 Speaker 2: a man. So there's another one. It's a daily at 1066 00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:45,279 Speaker 2: one fifteen in the afternoon. So it'd be interesting to 1067 00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:48,400 Speaker 2: see whether that leaves and if it goes to musket 1068 00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:52,320 Speaker 2: and whether that's a root, whether the airspace gets reopened today, 1069 00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:55,359 Speaker 2: because of course it was a handful of missiles and 1070 00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:57,960 Speaker 2: they may be it that may be over and so 1071 00:50:58,040 --> 00:50:59,680 Speaker 2: there may be because you've got you're talking about a 1072 00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:02,239 Speaker 2: seven in our flight, of course, and if it is 1073 00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:05,240 Speaker 2: through and answer me this question, because the July school 1074 00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:08,279 Speaker 2: holidays are upon us and there's a tremendous number of 1075 00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:11,240 Speaker 2: New Zealanders who go up into Europe and they generally 1076 00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:13,560 Speaker 2: if you're not going through Singapore, you're going through the 1077 00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:18,239 Speaker 2: Middle East. Are you bothered? Would you do anything about it? 1078 00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:22,040 Speaker 2: What has to happen before you do? Or does life 1079 00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:23,000 Speaker 2: just simply continue? 1080 00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:27,960 Speaker 1: Seventeen to two The Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast 1081 00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:30,560 Speaker 1: on iHeartRadio, powered by the News Talks. 1082 00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:30,840 Speaker 4: It'd be. 1083 00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:37,080 Speaker 2: Mike, I'm sure you this is an excellent, well surmised 1084 00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:39,680 Speaker 2: sort of wrap of what's happened this morning. I'm sure 1085 00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:42,680 Speaker 2: you know this attack was coordinated and Qatar was informed 1086 00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:44,720 Speaker 2: in advance. And the reason that Iran picked a guitar 1087 00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:46,960 Speaker 2: is because it's the only government in the Middle East 1088 00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:51,200 Speaker 2: who would accept the show of symbolic retaliation without escalating things. Further, 1089 00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:55,520 Speaker 2: I think that sums it up perfectly. Luxeon's not seeking 1090 00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:58,359 Speaker 2: a meeting with Trump, schedules a quote unquote all over 1091 00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:00,839 Speaker 2: the place. What makes us know if it's worse? As 1092 00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:05,880 Speaker 2: he's there looking, I mean, what's he there for? I mean, honestly, 1093 00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:08,640 Speaker 2: what's he there for? He hands out sixteen million dollars 1094 00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:10,920 Speaker 2: for Ukraine to on top of the thirteen million he 1095 00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:12,720 Speaker 2: handed out the other day, on top of the hats 1096 00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:15,960 Speaker 2: and the bold tat we found the used cupboard. I mean, 1097 00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:19,160 Speaker 2: come on, be serious. We're part of the IP four nations, 1098 00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:23,080 Speaker 2: which is sort of an associated group. The problem with 1099 00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:25,799 Speaker 2: the IP four you'll note the number four where one 1100 00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:28,799 Speaker 2: of them the other one's Australia. Alban Ezy is he there? No, 1101 00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:32,160 Speaker 2: as the South Korean president there, No is a Sheba 1102 00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:34,919 Speaker 2: there of Japan. No, So no one's there. He's there 1103 00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:37,000 Speaker 2: sort of looking like Nigel No mates, I mean, I'm 1104 00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:38,880 Speaker 2: all for being in the room and you never know, 1105 00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:40,919 Speaker 2: and you have sort of you know, face to face 1106 00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:42,400 Speaker 2: and you do a deal and all that sort of stuff. 1107 00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:44,160 Speaker 2: And I note with interest read a very interesting piece 1108 00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:46,879 Speaker 2: yesterday that got covered nowhere because it is a little 1109 00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:51,040 Speaker 2: bit it's a little bit niche, but we've developed apparently 1110 00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:55,600 Speaker 2: a smooth pathway to the UK for our wine. So 1111 00:52:55,719 --> 00:52:57,759 Speaker 2: this is the deal that we did. So we're looking 1112 00:52:57,760 --> 00:52:59,759 Speaker 2: to have a look at that EU deal that we've signed, 1113 00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:01,759 Speaker 2: the free trade agreement, but of course nothing beats the 1114 00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:04,600 Speaker 2: UK deal, which was gold plated. We've formally agreed the 1115 00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:07,440 Speaker 2: UK's formally agreed to accept exports of our wine using 1116 00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:12,880 Speaker 2: medium chloride AGAR, which does stability, clarity. It's all technical stuff, 1117 00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:14,520 Speaker 2: you know. That's how we make wine in this country. 1118 00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:17,759 Speaker 2: And some people get a bit about it, but they're 1119 00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:20,239 Speaker 2: allowing it to happen. So it's worth four hundred and 1120 00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:23,840 Speaker 2: twenty six not this extension, but the deal. Generally wine 1121 00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:25,960 Speaker 2: exports to the UK worth four hundred and twenty six 1122 00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:27,880 Speaker 2: million dollars a year m growing. So the more that 1123 00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:29,719 Speaker 2: we can get into that particular part of the world, 1124 00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:31,920 Speaker 2: the better. Can I just recommend a little bit of 1125 00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:34,160 Speaker 2: reading this morning out of Australia. It's in the Herald, 1126 00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:37,520 Speaker 2: and it just dovetails into exactly what I said a 1127 00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:39,840 Speaker 2: number of months ago, this business of banning kids on 1128 00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:42,279 Speaker 2: social media and the government are looking at it, and 1129 00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:44,320 Speaker 2: this is another thought bubble from Luxen and this is 1130 00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:46,120 Speaker 2: the stuff he needs to spend less time on and 1131 00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:48,600 Speaker 2: more time on the nuts and bolts of the country 1132 00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:51,239 Speaker 2: and the economy. He's all keen for banning kids on 1133 00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:54,600 Speaker 2: social media. Fantastic. All I asked was can it be done? 1134 00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:56,560 Speaker 2: The answers no, And he kept saying, look at Australia. Well, 1135 00:53:56,560 --> 00:53:58,520 Speaker 2: I'm looking at Australia. I'm looking at their first report 1136 00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:01,920 Speaker 2: because they passed what was called the time world leading 1137 00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:06,080 Speaker 2: legislation that didn't mean anything because the moment you go 1138 00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:08,279 Speaker 2: on to social media and you're not sixteen years old 1139 00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:10,160 Speaker 2: and it says are you sixteen years old and you 1140 00:54:10,239 --> 00:54:11,880 Speaker 2: lie and go yes, I am, that's the end of 1141 00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:14,280 Speaker 2: the That's the end of it. So their first reporters 1142 00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:18,160 Speaker 2: out uses the term roa tinted glasses because the report 1143 00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:20,400 Speaker 2: tries to spruit the fact that they might be onto something. 1144 00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:23,800 Speaker 2: They're not age check certification scheme. There are no significant 1145 00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:27,160 Speaker 2: technological barriers. That's not new. The tech companies could do 1146 00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:28,680 Speaker 2: it if they wanted. They just don't want to and 1147 00:54:28,719 --> 00:54:30,160 Speaker 2: they're not going to, and we all know that. 1148 00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:30,399 Speaker 8: Now. 1149 00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:31,840 Speaker 2: You can argue about that till you blue in the 1150 00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:34,160 Speaker 2: face if you want, but it doesn't change reality. So 1151 00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:36,560 Speaker 2: the report tries to paint a picture that they might 1152 00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:38,919 Speaker 2: be moving in the right direction, but the term rose 1153 00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:42,640 Speaker 2: tinted glasses. So read the whole thing and you'll be 1154 00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:44,840 Speaker 2: reassured that what Australia is doing is a complete and 1155 00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:48,120 Speaker 2: utter waste of time, and therefore we shouldn't continue to 1156 00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:50,439 Speaker 2: follow them down a path that leads nowhere. Tenn away 1157 00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:50,799 Speaker 2: from eight. 1158 00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:55,640 Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking breakfast with a Vida Retirement Communities news 1159 00:54:55,680 --> 00:54:56,480 Speaker 1: togs had been. 1160 00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:58,040 Speaker 2: Mike, I'm on QR nine two to one with the 1161 00:54:58,080 --> 00:55:00,440 Speaker 2: family Thursday, not at all worried a susp This was 1162 00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:02,480 Speaker 2: a face saving gesture from Iran given the amount of 1163 00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:04,800 Speaker 2: warning given and further attacks and guitar particular would be 1164 00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:06,520 Speaker 2: very very unlikely. There you go, as a person on 1165 00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:08,960 Speaker 2: a plane, whole family on a plane seven away from eight. 1166 00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:11,759 Speaker 2: US and UK law enforcement are going to be using 1167 00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:15,040 Speaker 2: a New Zealand developed strategy to help those police performance. 1168 00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:18,200 Speaker 2: So this is Vanta Set users research into people's breaking 1169 00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:20,920 Speaker 2: points to assist the lead athletes. Now they've signed long 1170 00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:23,680 Speaker 2: term deals with global law enforcement agencies to re engage 1171 00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:26,200 Speaker 2: front line officers. So Craig Steele is the founder and 1172 00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:28,399 Speaker 2: the CEO of Vanta Set and is with us. Craig 1173 00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:31,120 Speaker 2: wanting to you good morning mate. So this was an 1174 00:55:31,120 --> 00:55:34,200 Speaker 2: early iteration used by New Zealand Police. When was that 1175 00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:35,240 Speaker 2: and did it work? 1176 00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:41,399 Speaker 6: Yes, we started in twenty fifteen with a full roll out. 1177 00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:43,600 Speaker 6: Prior to that, Mike, we had done a couple of 1178 00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:47,560 Speaker 6: pilot programs and certainly at the time Mike Bush, who 1179 00:55:47,600 --> 00:55:50,560 Speaker 6: was the commissioner, believed that it gave him a mechanism 1180 00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:52,920 Speaker 6: to drive the step change that he was looking for 1181 00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:55,160 Speaker 6: in people's engagement and connection to the strategy. 1182 00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:57,840 Speaker 2: Wow, what do you literally do? I mean? So in 1183 00:55:57,960 --> 00:56:00,759 Speaker 2: athletic claims personal bests you get a seven percent of 1184 00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:03,440 Speaker 2: the time these were in Tier one events compared with 1185 00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:06,479 Speaker 2: international average of eight to ten. What literally are you doing? 1186 00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:07,839 Speaker 10: Well? 1187 00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:11,040 Speaker 6: It's really about a complete change in mindset. It's enabling 1188 00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:14,359 Speaker 6: air fetes to turn up to world championship events as 1189 00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:16,560 Speaker 6: a world champion, rather than going in and hoping that 1190 00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:19,480 Speaker 6: they've done enough work and possibly coming up short, setting 1191 00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:20,960 Speaker 6: them up so that they know they're in the right 1192 00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:23,560 Speaker 6: state when they head into that competition. 1193 00:56:24,040 --> 00:56:28,720 Speaker 2: This is purely psychological. You're convincing people they're winners. 1194 00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:31,359 Speaker 6: To an extent. When we get into the business piece, 1195 00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:33,920 Speaker 6: it's very much around connecting people to the intent of 1196 00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:37,719 Speaker 6: the organization so that the business itself has a mechanism 1197 00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:40,080 Speaker 6: to be able to optimize the potential of their people. 1198 00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:42,640 Speaker 6: And they are the things that typically come up short 1199 00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:45,840 Speaker 6: for organization, So it's not usually the strategy that fails. 1200 00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:47,400 Speaker 6: It's all around people's execution. 1201 00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:52,160 Speaker 2: Can you do it in a half baked organization or 1202 00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:54,880 Speaker 2: does the organization have to be good to instill the 1203 00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:58,160 Speaker 2: thought process in the people who work for it. 1204 00:56:58,160 --> 00:57:01,680 Speaker 6: It's better if the organization is a real aspiration, no doubt. 1205 00:57:02,120 --> 00:57:05,040 Speaker 6: But often what happens is when we go into organizations 1206 00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:08,000 Speaker 6: there is often a lack of its ability to succeed. 1207 00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:10,240 Speaker 6: But as soon as they start to get the leaders 1208 00:57:10,280 --> 00:57:12,160 Speaker 6: in place and they can see that they can connect 1209 00:57:12,200 --> 00:57:15,560 Speaker 6: people for the things that really matter, that gives them confidence. 1210 00:57:15,640 --> 00:57:19,280 Speaker 6: So organizations in very change over times they start part 1211 00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:23,040 Speaker 6: these disciplines or methods into their business is. 1212 00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:25,680 Speaker 2: It applicable to anything potentially business wise? 1213 00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:28,720 Speaker 6: Yeah, it is. We spend a huge amount of time 1214 00:57:28,880 --> 00:57:32,320 Speaker 6: testing it and it is an agnostic system. So wherever 1215 00:57:32,360 --> 00:57:34,560 Speaker 6: there are people who met it to the organization, then. 1216 00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:36,920 Speaker 2: It can work well. And so you're going with the 1217 00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:39,680 Speaker 2: police and how long before I can ring you up 1218 00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:41,000 Speaker 2: and you go, well, we put it in there and 1219 00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:41,760 Speaker 2: it work for them. 1220 00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:46,880 Speaker 6: We are hoping that that will be within the twelve 1221 00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:47,840 Speaker 6: to fifteen months. 1222 00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:50,200 Speaker 11: And the point brownd. 1223 00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:52,560 Speaker 6: The critical appdencies, Mike, is purely the fact that those 1224 00:57:52,640 --> 00:57:56,040 Speaker 6: organizations understand the performance of their people is really critical 1225 00:57:56,040 --> 00:57:59,200 Speaker 6: to their success. So in that state or in that instance, 1226 00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:01,440 Speaker 6: they really looking for better ways to be able to 1227 00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:03,600 Speaker 6: engage the people and ultimately help them to look at 1228 00:58:03,640 --> 00:58:04,520 Speaker 6: the outcomes that matter. 1229 00:58:04,760 --> 00:58:06,560 Speaker 2: Interesting, Well, we'll stay in touch. I wish you were 1230 00:58:06,560 --> 00:58:10,160 Speaker 2: with at Craig Craig Steel Moss Boomaster and Anthony Moster 1231 00:58:10,320 --> 00:58:13,120 Speaker 2: on board with that as well. Four minutes away from 1232 00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:15,960 Speaker 2: eight Pasky. But we're going Emirates to Europe in three 1233 00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:18,040 Speaker 2: weeks today. If Emirates are flying through Dubai and I 1234 00:58:18,080 --> 00:58:20,160 Speaker 2: think it's safe, we're boots and all in. We flew 1235 00:58:20,200 --> 00:58:22,680 Speaker 2: to Wistanbul a few hours before they're shooting and bombing 1236 00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:25,520 Speaker 2: at the airport, but wouldn't stop us. Now, Mike, my 1237 00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:27,920 Speaker 2: wife and I are flying to Dubai tonight then on 1238 00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:31,919 Speaker 2: to Europe. We're worried. Yes, are we going? Yes, You've 1239 00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:33,760 Speaker 2: got to live life and deal with what happens when 1240 00:58:33,760 --> 00:58:36,960 Speaker 2: it comes. Greg, well done. You see planes are full. 1241 00:58:39,480 --> 00:58:42,760 Speaker 2: Scott Robinson is it? I'm not being facetious, but in 1242 00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:46,320 Speaker 2: all honesty, what's he do between January and June? Is 1243 00:58:46,320 --> 00:58:48,200 Speaker 2: he hanging out with the super teams? Is he talking 1244 00:58:48,200 --> 00:58:50,400 Speaker 2: to the coaches? I'm assuming it's all of those, so 1245 00:58:50,440 --> 00:58:52,680 Speaker 2: I think I'm going to ask him that, among other matters, 1246 00:58:52,760 --> 00:58:53,800 Speaker 2: he is with us after the. 1247 00:58:53,760 --> 00:58:59,640 Speaker 1: News Come make cars game be stateful, engaging and vital. 1248 00:59:00,200 --> 00:59:03,600 Speaker 1: The Mike asking breakfast with the Defender actor the most 1249 00:59:03,640 --> 00:59:18,440 Speaker 1: powerful Defender ever made, and US toms dead by. 1250 00:59:12,360 --> 00:59:14,400 Speaker 2: A seven past eight. So the first all Blake squad 1251 00:59:14,480 --> 00:59:16,760 Speaker 2: for twenty five is out. The season starts with the French, 1252 00:59:16,800 --> 00:59:18,680 Speaker 2: of course, who arrives shortly. We'll take on the usual 1253 00:59:18,720 --> 00:59:21,400 Speaker 2: suspects Australia, Argentina, South Africa, then rape the year in 1254 00:59:21,400 --> 00:59:25,920 Speaker 2: Europe against Scotland, England, Ireland and Wales coach Scott Robertson 1255 00:59:26,120 --> 00:59:27,200 Speaker 2: is back with a Scott, good. 1256 00:59:27,120 --> 00:59:31,240 Speaker 8: Morning to you, Good morning Mike, good to chet again. 1257 00:59:31,160 --> 00:59:33,720 Speaker 2: And you too, and I've missed you, which brings me 1258 00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:37,479 Speaker 2: to my non facetious first question. Literally between the link 1259 00:59:37,560 --> 00:59:39,440 Speaker 2: end of last year, I assume you write a report 1260 00:59:39,480 --> 00:59:41,040 Speaker 2: and say here's how it all went as far as 1261 00:59:41,080 --> 00:59:42,880 Speaker 2: I'm concerned, You have a few meetings about that. What 1262 00:59:43,320 --> 00:59:45,280 Speaker 2: do you do between then and now? 1263 00:59:47,320 --> 00:59:49,360 Speaker 8: You did a lot of cleaning I appish you did 1264 00:59:49,360 --> 00:59:52,080 Speaker 8: with a recovery from the India tour. You know you're 1265 00:59:52,080 --> 00:59:54,240 Speaker 8: handing twenty days away to waking it with the family 1266 00:59:54,280 --> 00:59:56,720 Speaker 8: and get your body clock Wright, and then you start 1267 00:59:56,720 --> 01:00:00,960 Speaker 8: watching Fretiggain. The game changes pre quickly. You're just not 1268 01:00:01,000 --> 01:00:04,960 Speaker 8: watching super You're watching the USC, the Top fourteen, the 1269 01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:09,640 Speaker 8: French teams and how they play. What's the rest stuff doing? 1270 01:00:09,680 --> 01:00:12,000 Speaker 8: Then you go up into World rugby and what they're 1271 01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:14,360 Speaker 8: doing with the laws for the year. And then I 1272 01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:16,440 Speaker 8: get around the country, I see as million people as 1273 01:00:16,440 --> 01:00:18,280 Speaker 8: I can that love a game of rugby and connect 1274 01:00:18,280 --> 01:00:19,160 Speaker 8: with him. 1275 01:00:18,960 --> 01:00:21,880 Speaker 2: How much I don't know what the word is. Influence 1276 01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:24,800 Speaker 2: do you have on coaches and people? Along the way 1277 01:00:24,840 --> 01:00:26,880 Speaker 2: before yesterday's announcement. 1278 01:00:29,320 --> 01:00:30,000 Speaker 17: Influence. 1279 01:00:30,640 --> 01:00:33,880 Speaker 8: So every super team just to put your own team, 1280 01:00:33,880 --> 01:00:36,400 Speaker 8: they get to play how they want to play. Let's 1281 01:00:36,400 --> 01:00:39,880 Speaker 8: say progative that they've got their expert coaches, but we 1282 01:00:40,240 --> 01:00:43,960 Speaker 8: deal through their stuff or the coach themselves that heat 1283 01:00:44,040 --> 01:00:47,320 Speaker 8: and we'll talk about each one of our players. Coaches 1284 01:00:47,360 --> 01:00:48,840 Speaker 8: they have one of their players in the area and 1285 01:00:48,840 --> 01:00:51,320 Speaker 8: talk about specific you knows that run, kick on the edge, 1286 01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:53,840 Speaker 8: we need to work on the hooker throwers. You see 1287 01:00:53,840 --> 01:00:57,040 Speaker 8: what we see and then talk about what their ritus 1288 01:00:57,080 --> 01:00:58,479 Speaker 8: are going to be so how they can get better 1289 01:00:58,480 --> 01:01:01,840 Speaker 8: and improve what you do. But youtally don't pay to 1290 01:01:01,840 --> 01:01:03,520 Speaker 8: how they're going to play, but deal with individuals. 1291 01:01:03,600 --> 01:01:05,520 Speaker 2: Do you get pushed back from coaches who see things 1292 01:01:05,560 --> 01:01:06,200 Speaker 2: differently to you? 1293 01:01:07,840 --> 01:01:11,600 Speaker 8: There's always discussions you never of course there is no 1294 01:01:11,760 --> 01:01:14,360 Speaker 8: there's there's there's things that people see that just see 1295 01:01:14,360 --> 01:01:17,520 Speaker 8: it differently. You know, were mine. That's all part of it. 1296 01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:22,720 Speaker 8: You just have professional conversations are not personal. You get 1297 01:01:22,760 --> 01:01:25,480 Speaker 8: on with it when you when you don't, and you 1298 01:01:25,560 --> 01:01:27,800 Speaker 8: need to sometimes stand your ground and sometimes you need 1299 01:01:27,800 --> 01:01:31,360 Speaker 8: to understand it. You know it, set on set call 1300 01:01:31,440 --> 01:01:32,240 Speaker 8: and then get on with it. 1301 01:01:32,720 --> 01:01:35,120 Speaker 2: From your observation of all this watching you've been doing. 1302 01:01:35,160 --> 01:01:37,920 Speaker 2: If you were unlimited in the number of people you're 1303 01:01:37,960 --> 01:01:41,200 Speaker 2: able to name yesterday, how much depth have we got 1304 01:01:41,200 --> 01:01:43,800 Speaker 2: in this country? How big could a squad be of 1305 01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:46,280 Speaker 2: people who are genuine all blacks? 1306 01:01:48,920 --> 01:01:53,280 Speaker 8: So look, it's do you need to fall deep over 1307 01:01:53,920 --> 01:01:56,760 Speaker 8: four deep as all backs in every position over sort 1308 01:01:56,760 --> 01:01:59,840 Speaker 8: of a four year period to know that you're going 1309 01:01:59,920 --> 01:02:03,160 Speaker 8: to be in a position that you name your normal team, 1310 01:02:03,280 --> 01:02:05,080 Speaker 8: someone's going to get a bang. Or the weekend that 1311 01:02:05,200 --> 01:02:09,120 Speaker 8: there was a Test match, the intensity, the context, the 1312 01:02:09,200 --> 01:02:11,800 Speaker 8: super Final, you know, we had a lot of bangs 1313 01:02:11,800 --> 01:02:13,720 Speaker 8: out of that. There's a lot of schemes going on. 1314 01:02:13,760 --> 01:02:14,680 Speaker 8: So who's next of us? 1315 01:02:14,680 --> 01:02:14,760 Speaker 15: Not? 1316 01:02:14,760 --> 01:02:16,360 Speaker 8: Then you name the team and then you name the 1317 01:02:16,440 --> 01:02:19,640 Speaker 8: next one that's coming in on a proviso, and then 1318 01:02:19,680 --> 01:02:22,439 Speaker 8: you're always done what's doing? And you know it's round 1319 01:02:22,480 --> 01:02:24,479 Speaker 8: in Auckland, someone's going to tight carfin all of a sudden, 1320 01:02:24,480 --> 01:02:27,720 Speaker 8: who's next? So you're still going four deep? So what's that? 1321 01:02:27,960 --> 01:02:31,600 Speaker 8: You know for four fifteens, you know you're start to 1322 01:02:31,600 --> 01:02:35,760 Speaker 8: get up there, aren't you. Yeah there's sixty year Yeah 1323 01:02:35,800 --> 01:02:42,280 Speaker 8: we're done them with college and it's uh, it's and 1324 01:02:42,400 --> 01:02:45,000 Speaker 8: you so you so you start to look at it 1325 01:02:45,040 --> 01:02:47,800 Speaker 8: like that. In negative opportunities, players over this period of 1326 01:02:47,840 --> 01:02:50,280 Speaker 8: time get to know what they're going to be. Like 1327 01:02:50,520 --> 01:02:52,840 Speaker 8: in some guys come to the environment and just got 1328 01:02:52,840 --> 01:02:55,760 Speaker 8: a wolf for ast year, like Passi Tossi was the 1329 01:02:55,880 --> 01:02:59,800 Speaker 8: credible you know pel Arco. Those guys just stepped up beautifully. 1330 01:02:59,840 --> 01:03:01,720 Speaker 8: So you only find out by giving them the go 1331 01:03:02,640 --> 01:03:03,160 Speaker 8: you mentioned. 1332 01:03:03,160 --> 01:03:06,000 Speaker 2: I got to say it before I forget the game. 1333 01:03:06,040 --> 01:03:09,040 Speaker 2: On the weekend, the Crusaders rob Any the Redemption. I mean, 1334 01:03:09,360 --> 01:03:10,600 Speaker 2: what a fantastic story. 1335 01:03:11,960 --> 01:03:17,000 Speaker 8: Please from great story, great human story, great supporting story, 1336 01:03:18,560 --> 01:03:21,720 Speaker 8: galvanized team, lot of care in there and found a way. 1337 01:03:21,880 --> 01:03:24,960 Speaker 8: So yeah, look I'm really pleased for rob You know, 1338 01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:27,880 Speaker 8: we go way back again. Stretch an opportunity back in 1339 01:03:27,880 --> 01:03:30,400 Speaker 8: two thousand and eight, came in and gave me a 1340 01:03:30,440 --> 01:03:32,440 Speaker 8: couple of jobs to do, which very happily took and 1341 01:03:34,200 --> 01:03:35,080 Speaker 8: stubbed me on the path. 1342 01:03:35,880 --> 01:03:39,880 Speaker 2: Your personal expectation on yourself for your second season? 1343 01:03:39,920 --> 01:03:40,600 Speaker 17: What is it. 1344 01:03:43,040 --> 01:03:45,320 Speaker 8: Therese prop are things on and off the field, so personally, 1345 01:03:45,400 --> 01:03:48,439 Speaker 8: just to make sure the connection piece really clear about 1346 01:03:48,440 --> 01:03:51,200 Speaker 8: a purpose like who we're serving, So I'll drive that 1347 01:03:52,240 --> 01:03:55,520 Speaker 8: you know, look, I'll beck myself on our group's having 1348 01:03:55,520 --> 01:04:00,280 Speaker 8: a really common three, who who didn't and why? Obviously 1349 01:04:00,320 --> 01:04:02,240 Speaker 8: we've got a beautiful country here that we do that for. 1350 01:04:03,080 --> 01:04:05,800 Speaker 8: So there's the first one. And then on field is 1351 01:04:05,840 --> 01:04:09,000 Speaker 8: to create a team that's really fast. We create a 1352 01:04:09,000 --> 01:04:11,959 Speaker 8: lot being buying fast last year, like, but we didn't 1353 01:04:12,000 --> 01:04:16,000 Speaker 8: finish enough. You know, we little our stats in rod 1354 01:04:16,040 --> 01:04:19,880 Speaker 8: rugby last year, but it didn't convert to the scoreboard. 1355 01:04:20,320 --> 01:04:23,680 Speaker 8: And now now it's our times to convert what we create. 1356 01:04:24,320 --> 01:04:25,240 Speaker 8: That's exciting part. 1357 01:04:25,880 --> 01:04:28,680 Speaker 2: Do you feel you will be a better coach this 1358 01:04:28,800 --> 01:04:32,600 Speaker 2: season than last season, notwithstanding all the coaching experience you've 1359 01:04:32,640 --> 01:04:34,720 Speaker 2: you brought to the game in the first place from 1360 01:04:34,760 --> 01:04:35,360 Speaker 2: a different level. 1361 01:04:37,400 --> 01:04:39,640 Speaker 8: Yeah, oh yeah. Look, doesn't matter what you do. You 1362 01:04:39,640 --> 01:04:41,560 Speaker 8: need to improve, you know, you move forward and how 1363 01:04:41,600 --> 01:04:43,720 Speaker 8: do you make those improvements and you do It doesn't 1364 01:04:43,760 --> 01:04:46,760 Speaker 8: matter whereabouts in your job, Like this game moves really quickly, 1365 01:04:46,840 --> 01:04:49,080 Speaker 8: or a professional sports is or the world does really 1366 01:04:49,080 --> 01:04:50,960 Speaker 8: doesn't it, Like you know, we use ai lucky brown 1367 01:04:51,040 --> 01:04:53,960 Speaker 8: House and you've got to be a step ahead. But 1368 01:04:54,080 --> 01:04:56,880 Speaker 8: like personally, like I understand how it works, what really 1369 01:04:56,880 --> 01:04:58,920 Speaker 8: matters and what doesn't matter too, Like what can I 1370 01:04:59,000 --> 01:05:01,600 Speaker 8: keep my focus on my job to take away a 1371 01:05:01,640 --> 01:05:04,240 Speaker 8: lot of distractions so people be in mind so they 1372 01:05:04,240 --> 01:05:08,880 Speaker 8: can play. Yeah, I know now the delay of it 1373 01:05:08,920 --> 01:05:11,000 Speaker 8: and how it works, and to deal with the freeze 1374 01:05:11,080 --> 01:05:15,080 Speaker 8: and and people in the personalities, and so it'll be 1375 01:05:15,120 --> 01:05:16,040 Speaker 8: better for that for sure. 1376 01:05:16,200 --> 01:05:18,200 Speaker 2: Good stuff. Hold on for two seconds. We'll come back 1377 01:05:18,240 --> 01:05:19,960 Speaker 2: with more in a moment. Scott robertson All Black Coach 1378 01:05:20,000 --> 01:05:20,880 Speaker 2: their team past. 1379 01:05:21,600 --> 01:05:25,080 Speaker 1: The Mike asking Breakfast full show podcast on I have 1380 01:05:25,320 --> 01:05:27,000 Speaker 1: radio powered by News Talks. 1381 01:05:27,000 --> 01:05:29,960 Speaker 2: It be News Talks will be sixteen past eight Scott 1382 01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:32,200 Speaker 2: Robinson with us to talk about yesterday's naming and the 1383 01:05:32,200 --> 01:05:35,200 Speaker 2: season ahead. Of course, do you have, Scott, I'm assuming 1384 01:05:35,240 --> 01:05:37,120 Speaker 2: others and the management of the All Blacks to handle 1385 01:05:37,200 --> 01:05:38,960 Speaker 2: this more. I may be wrong and correct me if 1386 01:05:39,080 --> 01:05:42,160 Speaker 2: I mean I am. But given the union state of 1387 01:05:42,280 --> 01:05:45,080 Speaker 2: finances and the fact they're still losing money, do you 1388 01:05:45,160 --> 01:05:47,840 Speaker 2: have everything you need? Are there any fiscal constraints on 1389 01:05:47,920 --> 01:05:48,560 Speaker 2: what you need to do? 1390 01:05:51,600 --> 01:05:52,160 Speaker 17: Mindful of it. 1391 01:05:52,240 --> 01:05:56,080 Speaker 8: But if his prioritis has performed the money, it's a 1392 01:05:56,120 --> 01:05:59,400 Speaker 8: bit different when we don't perform as well, So focus 1393 01:05:59,440 --> 01:06:02,320 Speaker 8: on it. No, Look, they've been great that they you know, 1394 01:06:02,360 --> 01:06:04,520 Speaker 8: we talk and obviously where can we could be better 1395 01:06:04,560 --> 01:06:08,800 Speaker 8: at and trim but essentially they give you all their 1396 01:06:09,080 --> 01:06:11,919 Speaker 8: cards opportunities perform, which is the ultimately from the all backs, 1397 01:06:11,960 --> 01:06:13,920 Speaker 8: and that's what they need and we focus on. 1398 01:06:14,200 --> 01:06:16,439 Speaker 2: Okay, I read something the other day and I don't 1399 01:06:16,480 --> 01:06:18,120 Speaker 2: know why I didn't know it, but the Lions when 1400 01:06:18,120 --> 01:06:20,480 Speaker 2: they got named, it's an old fashioned system. Nobody knows 1401 01:06:20,480 --> 01:06:22,240 Speaker 2: the thing. It's simply read out on the radio. And 1402 01:06:22,280 --> 01:06:24,000 Speaker 2: when you hear your name for the first time, you 1403 01:06:24,040 --> 01:06:25,840 Speaker 2: hear your name for the first time, is there something 1404 01:06:25,880 --> 01:06:26,080 Speaker 2: in that? 1405 01:06:27,760 --> 01:06:31,760 Speaker 8: Yeah, we could put it both. So probably three two, 1406 01:06:31,880 --> 01:06:33,680 Speaker 8: two of the players that that yesterday and I'll bring 1407 01:06:33,720 --> 01:06:36,280 Speaker 8: the other cup are the three out of the five 1408 01:06:36,440 --> 01:06:40,200 Speaker 8: to come up. But yeah, it's pretty cool, isn't it. 1409 01:06:40,280 --> 01:06:44,160 Speaker 8: I reckon it's pretty It's a nice touch. Not look 1410 01:06:44,200 --> 01:06:46,880 Speaker 8: at it next year, come on to our sponsorship team 1411 01:06:46,920 --> 01:06:48,200 Speaker 8: mate commercial, you. 1412 01:06:48,280 --> 01:06:53,760 Speaker 2: Reckon not a bad idea. Observations are three sixty and 1413 01:06:53,920 --> 01:06:57,800 Speaker 2: the Super Rugby World Competition thing. If either of them 1414 01:06:57,840 --> 01:06:59,480 Speaker 2: get off the ground, are they good or not? For 1415 01:06:59,520 --> 01:06:59,880 Speaker 2: the game? 1416 01:07:03,920 --> 01:07:07,720 Speaker 8: Yeah? I think anything in the game that promotes us, 1417 01:07:07,800 --> 01:07:11,200 Speaker 8: and it's globally and it gets international sponsors and exposes 1418 01:07:11,240 --> 01:07:17,320 Speaker 8: our players to other competitions. It's good. It's going to 1419 01:07:17,360 --> 01:07:19,960 Speaker 8: keep players in our game here in New Zealand for longer. 1420 01:07:21,080 --> 01:07:24,840 Speaker 8: It's great. You look at Jordan what a great way 1421 01:07:25,240 --> 01:07:27,400 Speaker 8: to see the world play great rugby. You know, played 1422 01:07:27,400 --> 01:07:29,640 Speaker 8: a lot of golf and rugby. He's come back good, 1423 01:07:29,880 --> 01:07:31,600 Speaker 8: is in good front. Now what does that look like 1424 01:07:31,640 --> 01:07:33,720 Speaker 8: for us? So they are Rady one. You've got to 1425 01:07:33,720 --> 01:07:37,000 Speaker 8: get put more detail. That's a different beast in itself. 1426 01:07:37,200 --> 01:07:40,400 Speaker 8: But the Super Rubi one and the finals and the 1427 01:07:40,480 --> 01:07:44,480 Speaker 8: connection piece, we can connect the clubs together. Be a 1428 01:07:44,480 --> 01:07:45,080 Speaker 8: great occasion. 1429 01:07:45,200 --> 01:07:49,200 Speaker 2: Not too much rugby, it's all balanced out. 1430 01:07:49,280 --> 01:07:51,040 Speaker 8: It's not more rugby. It's just at the end of 1431 01:07:51,040 --> 01:07:53,280 Speaker 8: their season. So you can't put any more weeks in 1432 01:07:53,320 --> 01:07:56,400 Speaker 8: the old calendar, so you know, you just go to 1433 01:07:56,440 --> 01:07:59,800 Speaker 8: finals earlier. You know that the all Black Test season, 1434 01:07:59,800 --> 01:08:02,800 Speaker 8: all international tests in sets, so you think that goes 1435 01:08:02,840 --> 01:08:03,240 Speaker 8: around that. 1436 01:08:03,800 --> 01:08:04,280 Speaker 17: It's key. 1437 01:08:04,920 --> 01:08:06,960 Speaker 2: So you mentioned it, You mentioned Jordy. What about Artie 1438 01:08:06,960 --> 01:08:09,360 Speaker 2: in twenty six and I mean you look at what 1439 01:08:09,400 --> 01:08:12,040 Speaker 2: he did for Mowana as like in a team game, 1440 01:08:12,080 --> 01:08:14,560 Speaker 2: it is so rare to see an individual stand out 1441 01:08:14,560 --> 01:08:17,680 Speaker 2: to that extent. Next stop Japan and how do you 1442 01:08:17,720 --> 01:08:19,479 Speaker 2: handle all of that and or is that just the 1443 01:08:19,520 --> 01:08:19,920 Speaker 2: way it is? 1444 01:08:21,800 --> 01:08:23,519 Speaker 8: I think it's the way it is. He's a pioneer. 1445 01:08:24,840 --> 01:08:27,760 Speaker 8: You know, we had these conversations eighteen months ago about 1446 01:08:27,760 --> 01:08:31,120 Speaker 8: what he wanted to do and want to which you 1447 01:08:31,160 --> 01:08:33,280 Speaker 8: know it's pretty much first day on the job and 1448 01:08:33,320 --> 01:08:35,160 Speaker 8: you know, what do you think, coach and one of 1449 01:08:35,160 --> 01:08:38,040 Speaker 8: my first jobs to support him so he can perform 1450 01:08:38,040 --> 01:08:39,920 Speaker 8: at his best and do watch right for his family 1451 01:08:40,880 --> 01:08:44,080 Speaker 8: and he make sure it's a beast for New Zealand rugby. 1452 01:08:44,200 --> 01:08:47,320 Speaker 8: And that's what we got to, you know, like he 1453 01:08:48,640 --> 01:08:51,920 Speaker 8: transformed himself to you paid each week in a high purpose, 1454 01:08:53,240 --> 01:08:55,639 Speaker 8: great to watch and then he also gets to going 1455 01:08:55,680 --> 01:08:57,760 Speaker 8: to going to Japan. It was important for him to 1456 01:08:57,760 --> 01:09:02,000 Speaker 8: do that. So he's entered men he you know, he's 1457 01:09:02,040 --> 01:09:04,040 Speaker 8: been for a long period time in New Zealand and 1458 01:09:04,120 --> 01:09:06,120 Speaker 8: it's quite interesting. There's different ways to do it, you know, 1459 01:09:06,200 --> 01:09:08,960 Speaker 8: nickon Island and I'm just a stating an example where 1460 01:09:08,960 --> 01:09:10,920 Speaker 8: I'm not saying this is for the government, but you 1461 01:09:10,960 --> 01:09:13,559 Speaker 8: know a lot of our players at the Irish careers 1462 01:09:14,040 --> 01:09:17,000 Speaker 8: get text break for staying if they show long service, 1463 01:09:17,040 --> 01:09:19,200 Speaker 8: you know, over ten years so. 1464 01:09:21,600 --> 01:09:22,160 Speaker 2: I didn't know that. 1465 01:09:23,640 --> 01:09:26,120 Speaker 8: Yeah, it's pretty special. Like a lot of the guys 1466 01:09:26,240 --> 01:09:28,559 Speaker 8: play right to the end of the depth of their squad, 1467 01:09:28,600 --> 01:09:31,200 Speaker 8: the handing down of all the knowledge, and it's a 1468 01:09:31,200 --> 01:09:34,400 Speaker 8: sign of loyalty. And a lot of guys stay in 1469 01:09:35,000 --> 01:09:37,360 Speaker 8: you know, only from French, France and Japan and hints 1470 01:09:37,400 --> 01:09:39,880 Speaker 8: that golden era of Ireland. You know, they're coming to 1471 01:09:39,920 --> 01:09:42,280 Speaker 8: the end of their leg, but they do a great 1472 01:09:42,360 --> 01:09:43,000 Speaker 8: job and. 1473 01:09:43,080 --> 01:09:45,920 Speaker 2: Retaining Well that's interesting. Hey, but what's your assessment of 1474 01:09:45,960 --> 01:09:47,800 Speaker 2: the people we're going to play? The French they say 1475 01:09:47,800 --> 01:09:50,640 Speaker 2: they're a bit short on talent, the Australians. Is there 1476 01:09:50,680 --> 01:09:53,160 Speaker 2: going Is it going to be any different from previous occasions? 1477 01:09:53,240 --> 01:09:54,920 Speaker 2: Is anyone materially changed? 1478 01:09:57,000 --> 01:09:59,800 Speaker 8: It's the French, Mike, you know, like this is when 1479 01:09:59,800 --> 01:10:03,560 Speaker 8: you're they're dangerous, you know, like given underestimates them and 1480 01:10:03,720 --> 01:10:05,559 Speaker 8: they come over and look, they're going to be bigger, 1481 01:10:05,560 --> 01:10:09,599 Speaker 8: They're going to be French. That's all. You can't definitely 1482 01:10:09,640 --> 01:10:11,320 Speaker 8: how to pick your score. So we're not guessing, you 1483 01:10:11,360 --> 01:10:13,920 Speaker 8: know that whoever turns out, you know, we'll focus majority 1484 01:10:13,960 --> 01:10:16,240 Speaker 8: on ourself and then we know that, you know, we 1485 01:10:16,280 --> 01:10:20,559 Speaker 8: know that where they play, it's just who's going to 1486 01:10:20,600 --> 01:10:22,320 Speaker 8: be doing it, and just a couple of strengths of 1487 01:10:22,360 --> 01:10:23,960 Speaker 8: their players and then we just get on with it 1488 01:10:24,040 --> 01:10:28,960 Speaker 8: and respect them with a great preparation. But this they're dangerous, 1489 01:10:28,960 --> 01:10:33,400 Speaker 8: you know, la, you know it, said Somel, like some 1490 01:10:33,439 --> 01:10:34,840 Speaker 8: young flowers will take your opportunity. 1491 01:10:35,080 --> 01:10:37,479 Speaker 2: Fantastic. It must be exciting to be where you are 1492 01:10:37,560 --> 01:10:39,280 Speaker 2: right now, because I mean, I know you're busy during 1493 01:10:39,280 --> 01:10:41,439 Speaker 2: the year and all that stuff. But to be right, 1494 01:10:41,520 --> 01:10:44,080 Speaker 2: we're set. There's a ball being kicked and there's some 1495 01:10:44,200 --> 01:10:46,120 Speaker 2: scores to be handled. Yes, that's good stuff. 1496 01:10:47,400 --> 01:10:50,200 Speaker 8: Yeah, it's exciting, mate. I appreciate that. I'm looking forward 1497 01:10:50,240 --> 01:10:52,760 Speaker 8: to the country and together we walk to morrow. So 1498 01:10:52,960 --> 01:10:53,599 Speaker 8: here we go again. 1499 01:10:53,760 --> 01:10:56,040 Speaker 2: Good on, we'll catch up during the season, I'm sure. 1500 01:10:56,120 --> 01:10:58,880 Speaker 2: Scott Robertson the All Blacks Coach eight twenty two. 1501 01:11:00,000 --> 01:11:03,519 Speaker 1: Say, costing breakfast with the defender Octor news togdad b. 1502 01:11:04,040 --> 01:11:06,640 Speaker 2: No secret than the Fiji holiday, perfect remedy to the 1503 01:11:06,680 --> 01:11:08,880 Speaker 2: old key we winter. You're thinking, what are you thinking? 1504 01:11:08,920 --> 01:11:11,720 Speaker 2: Tropical sun, golden sands, cheeky cocktails by the Paul wants 1505 01:11:11,800 --> 01:11:13,759 Speaker 2: not to love about that? Well, now there's a new 1506 01:11:14,160 --> 01:11:17,200 Speaker 2: Fiji expert in talent. So this is introducing my Holiday, 1507 01:11:17,680 --> 01:11:19,760 Speaker 2: My Holiday home of the bill of Bonus. So when 1508 01:11:19,760 --> 01:11:21,960 Speaker 2: you book with my Holiday, you will experience Fiji like 1509 01:11:21,960 --> 01:11:25,439 Speaker 2: a VIP, every holiday perfectly packaged to include unmissible bill 1510 01:11:25,439 --> 01:11:29,160 Speaker 2: of bonuses, got airport, fast track access, exclusive isolent experiences, 1511 01:11:29,200 --> 01:11:32,320 Speaker 2: resort credit, spa treatments, can stay, play free, eat free, 1512 01:11:32,760 --> 01:11:35,760 Speaker 2: much much more. My Holiday dot co dot inted. You 1513 01:11:35,840 --> 01:11:38,680 Speaker 2: got it My holiday dot co dot inted. Enjoy the 1514 01:11:38,680 --> 01:11:42,639 Speaker 2: convenience and value of a perfectly packaged escape, every details 1515 01:11:42,680 --> 01:11:44,719 Speaker 2: taken care of. All that's left to do is basically 1516 01:11:44,720 --> 01:11:46,360 Speaker 2: pack the old bag. So what's it going to be 1517 01:11:46,439 --> 01:11:48,719 Speaker 2: cold winter at home or a sun soaked, value packed 1518 01:11:48,760 --> 01:11:52,040 Speaker 2: Fiji get away with my Holiday. Pretty easy decision, don't 1519 01:11:52,040 --> 01:11:55,400 Speaker 2: you reckon? So my Holiday home of the buller bonus 1520 01:11:55,400 --> 01:11:56,920 Speaker 2: and here's where you go for all the option had 1521 01:11:56,960 --> 01:11:58,800 Speaker 2: to look this morning, Jesus, A lot of options My 1522 01:11:58,960 --> 01:12:04,120 Speaker 2: Holiday dot co dot nz foscy listen to this straight 1523 01:12:04,120 --> 01:12:07,560 Speaker 2: from truth. Social Iran has officially responded to our obliteration 1524 01:12:07,680 --> 01:12:11,120 Speaker 2: of their nuclear facilities with a very weak response. Fourteen 1525 01:12:11,160 --> 01:12:14,679 Speaker 2: missiles fired, thirteen are knockdown. One was set free because 1526 01:12:14,760 --> 01:12:18,759 Speaker 2: it was headed in a non threatening direction. No Americans 1527 01:12:18,800 --> 01:12:21,439 Speaker 2: were harmed, hardly any damage. Most importantly, they've gotten it 1528 01:12:21,479 --> 01:12:25,240 Speaker 2: all out of their system. There there will hopefully be 1529 01:12:25,439 --> 01:12:28,160 Speaker 2: no firthight. Now. This is a week get serious. This is 1530 01:12:28,240 --> 01:12:30,599 Speaker 2: quite nice line. I want to thank Iran for giving 1531 01:12:30,680 --> 01:12:33,360 Speaker 2: us early notice which made it possible for no lives 1532 01:12:33,400 --> 01:12:35,920 Speaker 2: to be lost, to nobody to be injured. Perhaps Iran 1533 01:12:36,000 --> 01:12:38,479 Speaker 2: can now proceed to peace and harmony in the region, 1534 01:12:38,680 --> 01:12:41,920 Speaker 2: and I will enthusiastically encourage Israel to do the same. 1535 01:12:42,280 --> 01:12:45,759 Speaker 2: Thank you for your attention to this matter. Congratulations, World, 1536 01:12:46,000 --> 01:12:52,800 Speaker 2: it's time for peace. Good job World, No wonder the 1537 01:12:52,800 --> 01:12:55,720 Speaker 2: oil didn't go up. Big Don had it all in 1538 01:12:55,840 --> 01:13:00,680 Speaker 2: hand all along. Morning Mike, going to miss segment on 1539 01:13:00,720 --> 01:13:03,679 Speaker 2: your show. Really enjoy our Australian correspondence and the stories 1540 01:13:03,680 --> 01:13:07,120 Speaker 2: happening over there. Now. The reason I read that out 1541 01:13:07,280 --> 01:13:10,599 Speaker 2: is there's a story behind that, and I'll explain more shortly. 1542 01:13:10,800 --> 01:13:16,400 Speaker 2: Steve's not on the program this morning, Rodders, but I'll 1543 01:13:16,439 --> 01:13:19,719 Speaker 2: do Rod and then I'll get back to Steve meantime. 1544 01:13:19,760 --> 01:13:21,719 Speaker 2: The news is next year of news talk. 1545 01:13:21,600 --> 01:13:28,960 Speaker 1: See news, opinion and everything in between. The Mic Hosking 1546 01:13:29,040 --> 01:13:32,400 Speaker 1: break best with Bailey's real estate doing real estate differently 1547 01:13:32,439 --> 01:13:34,960 Speaker 1: since nineteen seventy three, news togsdad be. 1548 01:13:35,160 --> 01:13:36,600 Speaker 2: One of the funny stories at the beginning of the 1549 01:13:36,640 --> 01:13:39,240 Speaker 2: year was the Sydney Morning Herald, who I take moderately seriously. 1550 01:13:39,280 --> 01:13:41,640 Speaker 2: I take the Australian As I've said before, the Australian 1551 01:13:41,680 --> 01:13:44,400 Speaker 2: media generally seriously when it comes to rugby league because 1552 01:13:44,439 --> 01:13:47,400 Speaker 2: they spend a lot of time, money and energy in 1553 01:13:47,520 --> 01:13:49,840 Speaker 2: following the game, and therefore they would make they would 1554 01:13:49,880 --> 01:13:51,759 Speaker 2: know what they were talking about. They had the Warriors 1555 01:13:51,960 --> 01:13:55,280 Speaker 2: winning seven games for the season in total. They were 1556 01:13:55,280 --> 01:13:59,320 Speaker 2: a complete nuttered disaster, so obviously they're wrong. So I've 1557 01:13:59,439 --> 01:14:02,639 Speaker 2: enjoyed no that they're wrong. Fox Sports out of Australia 1558 01:14:02,680 --> 01:14:06,840 Speaker 2: this morning are arguing that there are six sides that 1559 01:14:06,920 --> 01:14:10,800 Speaker 2: can win the competition. Side number one Canterbury Bankstown, which 1560 01:14:10,840 --> 01:14:12,560 Speaker 2: is fairly obvious because the Bulldogs have been at the 1561 01:14:12,600 --> 01:14:14,719 Speaker 2: top of the pile for the basically the whole season. 1562 01:14:14,760 --> 01:14:16,439 Speaker 2: They fell over to the Dolphins, but that's I think 1563 01:14:16,439 --> 01:14:18,320 Speaker 2: they might have what they might have lost too, but 1564 01:14:18,360 --> 01:14:21,400 Speaker 2: that's about it. They still think the Panthers can win, 1565 01:14:21,960 --> 01:14:24,840 Speaker 2: and the result of the weekend would indicate they can 1566 01:14:24,960 --> 01:14:27,240 Speaker 2: because they were a depleted side, but nevertheless a great 1567 01:14:27,240 --> 01:14:29,040 Speaker 2: side is still a great side. If the Panthers do 1568 01:14:29,160 --> 01:14:31,360 Speaker 2: go on to win, they'd be the first side in 1569 01:14:31,400 --> 01:14:34,000 Speaker 2: the mod Nearer to win the competition from outside the four. 1570 01:14:34,600 --> 01:14:36,000 Speaker 2: So the four at the moment, if you follow the 1571 01:14:36,080 --> 01:14:38,559 Speaker 2: Rugby League, the top four which includes the Warriors, are 1572 01:14:38,560 --> 01:14:40,439 Speaker 2: in fact a long way ahead of the rest of 1573 01:14:40,479 --> 01:14:43,960 Speaker 2: the field. There's a six point gap between us and 1574 01:14:44,000 --> 01:14:46,519 Speaker 2: the rest. So they still think the Panthers can do it, 1575 01:14:46,800 --> 01:14:49,559 Speaker 2: the Raiders can win it. They argue the storm of 1576 01:14:49,560 --> 01:14:51,320 Speaker 2: the storm. That's their ligne, the storm of the Storm. 1577 01:14:51,320 --> 01:14:53,200 Speaker 2: And who would argue with them? The Brisbane Broncers. They've 1578 01:14:53,200 --> 01:14:54,960 Speaker 2: got in there as well. They're a bit inconsistent, but 1579 01:14:55,000 --> 01:14:58,880 Speaker 2: they think they can still do it, which leaves one side, 1580 01:14:58,920 --> 01:15:01,640 Speaker 2: and that's the Wars. The Wars had to set back 1581 01:15:01,680 --> 01:15:04,040 Speaker 2: there right against the Panthers. But we've already seen enough 1582 01:15:04,040 --> 01:15:08,240 Speaker 2: from them to quality to quality for the season serious 1583 01:15:08,280 --> 01:15:12,920 Speaker 2: Title Contenders category or to qualify they misprinted they do 1584 01:15:12,960 --> 01:15:16,200 Speaker 2: you think they miswrote it because they're Australian To qualify 1585 01:15:16,280 --> 01:15:18,960 Speaker 2: for the serious Contender's title for that yeah, AI again 1586 01:15:19,240 --> 01:15:21,760 Speaker 2: it could be a bit of AI. I did want 1587 01:15:21,760 --> 01:15:23,840 Speaker 2: to ask Scott Robertson he goes we use AI and 1588 01:15:24,280 --> 01:15:26,599 Speaker 2: I was desperate to go. I'm in this tricky part 1589 01:15:26,760 --> 01:15:31,160 Speaker 2: of my life. Whereby I mean obviously the question was how. 1590 01:15:31,640 --> 01:15:34,360 Speaker 19: Well it would be a useful for coming up with 1591 01:15:34,400 --> 01:15:37,960 Speaker 19: lineout calls for example, would it? Because I mean that 1592 01:15:38,040 --> 01:15:39,519 Speaker 19: must get tiresome after a while. 1593 01:15:39,960 --> 01:15:42,040 Speaker 2: Just get them to pick it. Yeah, just the B 1594 01:15:42,160 --> 01:15:45,720 Speaker 2: four one dash left, Yeah, yeah, fair enough. Anyway, point 1595 01:15:45,720 --> 01:15:48,920 Speaker 2: from Foxes this is our year. I mean, that's what 1596 01:15:48,960 --> 01:15:52,400 Speaker 2: fox are saying this morning in the Australian media they 1597 01:15:52,439 --> 01:15:58,000 Speaker 2: are saying correct. Twenty one minutes away from. 1598 01:15:57,920 --> 01:16:02,160 Speaker 14: Nine International correspondent with ends in eye insurance peace of 1599 01:16:02,200 --> 01:16:03,559 Speaker 14: mind for New Zealand Business. 1600 01:16:04,439 --> 01:16:06,840 Speaker 11: Good morning to you, my friend, Good morning to you, Michael. 1601 01:16:06,880 --> 01:16:09,280 Speaker 2: We've got the big NATO meeting in twenty four hours time, 1602 01:16:09,360 --> 01:16:11,240 Speaker 2: just across the way from where you are. Meantime, we've 1603 01:16:11,280 --> 01:16:13,360 Speaker 2: had some mustealth bombers go in and drop a few 1604 01:16:13,360 --> 01:16:14,960 Speaker 2: things on Iran. Where's Britain net? 1605 01:16:14,960 --> 01:16:18,960 Speaker 11: We bet we're a city on the sidelines, wondering, wondering 1606 01:16:19,000 --> 01:16:24,640 Speaker 11: what's going on our sheer irrelevance And by Britain, you know, 1607 01:16:24,720 --> 01:16:27,680 Speaker 11: I'm in Europe as well our sheer irrelevance to what 1608 01:16:27,840 --> 01:16:31,599 Speaker 11: is happening in what was once you know, the areas 1609 01:16:31,640 --> 01:16:35,759 Speaker 11: of our major allies. Iran a former colony and we're 1610 01:16:35,800 --> 01:16:39,760 Speaker 11: a former client state. We've just been cut out of 1611 01:16:39,760 --> 01:16:43,080 Speaker 11: it completely. Now there is an upside to that that 1612 01:16:43,160 --> 01:16:45,519 Speaker 11: this could go badly wrong, and we could go badly 1613 01:16:45,520 --> 01:16:47,559 Speaker 11: wrong for Donald Trump, and it could go badly wrong 1614 01:16:47,640 --> 01:16:52,880 Speaker 11: for Benorinta. But nonetheless, the quotes, the off the record 1615 01:16:52,920 --> 01:16:55,400 Speaker 11: quotes which we've heard over the last week or so, 1616 01:16:55,520 --> 01:16:59,240 Speaker 11: which is that a Britain from Israel that Britain is 1617 01:16:59,280 --> 01:17:02,960 Speaker 11: an unreliable ally, and then again from Donald Trump saying 1618 01:17:03,240 --> 01:17:05,240 Speaker 11: Iran doesn't want to talk to Europe. He wants to 1619 01:17:05,280 --> 01:17:11,240 Speaker 11: talk to the USA. So it's just the sidelining of Europe, 1620 01:17:12,040 --> 01:17:15,759 Speaker 11: which in the longer term I think is problematic because 1621 01:17:15,800 --> 01:17:20,080 Speaker 11: it plays into this view of America just drifting lucive, NATO, 1622 01:17:20,200 --> 01:17:21,799 Speaker 11: drifting loose of Europe completely. 1623 01:17:22,240 --> 01:17:25,200 Speaker 2: The earlier on this morning, several hours ago before, of course, 1624 01:17:25,240 --> 01:17:27,639 Speaker 2: the Iranians came back through Kata and dropped a few 1625 01:17:27,640 --> 01:17:29,320 Speaker 2: missiles in that particular part of the world. I know 1626 01:17:29,439 --> 01:17:32,280 Speaker 2: the UK told the embassy and people in that part 1627 01:17:32,280 --> 01:17:34,320 Speaker 2: of the world to shelter in place. They obviously knew 1628 01:17:34,320 --> 01:17:36,840 Speaker 2: what was happening. Is there much activity in trying to 1629 01:17:36,840 --> 01:17:39,639 Speaker 2: get bricks out of that general region at the moment. 1630 01:17:40,120 --> 01:17:45,080 Speaker 11: At the moment, the reason certainly not Qatar. But it's 1631 01:17:45,120 --> 01:17:48,719 Speaker 11: interesting that Qatar has been dragged into this for obvious 1632 01:17:48,760 --> 01:17:52,000 Speaker 11: reasons because of course they were one of the major 1633 01:17:52,040 --> 01:17:56,080 Speaker 11: sponsors of a mass along with Iran. Even though that that, 1634 01:17:56,479 --> 01:18:01,000 Speaker 11: even though that is that is incredibly inconvenient to admit. 1635 01:18:03,280 --> 01:18:06,600 Speaker 11: Qatar doa particularly is a place which a lot of 1636 01:18:06,640 --> 01:18:10,880 Speaker 11: Brits go to for business reasons, were also for fun. 1637 01:18:12,040 --> 01:18:16,600 Speaker 11: And it is signaled that that will be headlines in 1638 01:18:16,640 --> 01:18:20,559 Speaker 11: the papers tomorrow that Qatar is also closing airspace to 1639 01:18:21,920 --> 01:18:24,880 Speaker 11: Iranian jets, Israeli jets and so on, and is worried 1640 01:18:24,920 --> 01:18:25,679 Speaker 11: about its own. 1641 01:18:25,560 --> 01:18:29,200 Speaker 2: Security in sort of related matters in the broadest of senses. 1642 01:18:29,200 --> 01:18:31,880 Speaker 2: I'm reading over the weekend Mike Rowley, who Rally, who's 1643 01:18:31,920 --> 01:18:35,840 Speaker 2: the police commissioner. He was quote unquote shocked by the 1644 01:18:35,880 --> 01:18:38,960 Speaker 2: planned Palestine Action protest. And what I didn't realize, and 1645 01:18:39,000 --> 01:18:41,679 Speaker 2: I said, probably is the police. You can have these 1646 01:18:41,720 --> 01:18:43,920 Speaker 2: thugs out there, but the police can do nothing about it. 1647 01:18:44,560 --> 01:18:48,320 Speaker 11: Well, no, indeed, and even more worrying for me is 1648 01:18:48,360 --> 01:18:50,479 Speaker 11: that it's that the barriers put in the way of 1649 01:18:50,520 --> 01:18:54,799 Speaker 11: Palestine action when they decided to cause millions of pounds 1650 01:18:54,800 --> 01:18:59,320 Speaker 11: worth of damage and put out of action to important 1651 01:18:59,360 --> 01:19:02,960 Speaker 11: airplanes are af price in Orton. They have to scale 1652 01:19:03,000 --> 01:19:06,000 Speaker 11: a six foot fence mic you know, I mean a 1653 01:19:06,000 --> 01:19:10,840 Speaker 11: wooden fence six foot it is. It has shocked the 1654 01:19:11,080 --> 01:19:15,160 Speaker 11: entire nation. Most people think, you know, why weren't they shocked? 1655 01:19:16,040 --> 01:19:18,920 Speaker 11: That's the first reaction, and I have to say it 1656 01:19:18,960 --> 01:19:22,559 Speaker 11: was mine. And the second reaction is the clear Starbard 1657 01:19:22,600 --> 01:19:27,519 Speaker 11: described it as vandalism. Well, actually it's treason, mate, you 1658 01:19:27,520 --> 01:19:32,400 Speaker 11: know that. Actually it's we we still have I think 1659 01:19:32,400 --> 01:19:34,200 Speaker 11: on a statute book, or it may been reveuilled a 1660 01:19:34,240 --> 01:19:37,760 Speaker 11: couple of years ago, an archaic rule which says that 1661 01:19:38,080 --> 01:19:41,680 Speaker 11: anyone who sets a fire in Her Majesty's dockyard is 1662 01:19:41,760 --> 01:19:45,919 Speaker 11: guilty of treason and the statutory punishment is capital punishment. 1663 01:19:46,280 --> 01:19:48,200 Speaker 11: You know, it's not long since we've got rid of that, 1664 01:19:48,400 --> 01:19:54,240 Speaker 11: and we're talking about vandalism. These people are opposed to 1665 01:19:54,240 --> 01:19:57,560 Speaker 11: the British state and to damage the British state, you know, 1666 01:19:57,640 --> 01:19:59,160 Speaker 11: at it's the most vulnerable. 1667 01:19:58,720 --> 01:20:02,800 Speaker 2: Point InCred Yeah, exactly, three fourteen to two ninety one. 1668 01:20:02,880 --> 01:20:06,639 Speaker 2: This was the assisted dying bill vote. What's the process? 1669 01:20:07,120 --> 01:20:10,400 Speaker 2: Where does that go now? Or is that done? 1670 01:20:11,439 --> 01:20:14,160 Speaker 11: It goes to the Lords. I think the House of 1671 01:20:14,200 --> 01:20:18,559 Speaker 11: Lords will in the end, possibly having dug around a 1672 01:20:18,600 --> 01:20:22,880 Speaker 11: little bit in those vaguish areas about what constitutes a 1673 01:20:23,040 --> 01:20:27,679 Speaker 11: terminal illness, and it will go through. And you know, Mike, 1674 01:20:27,800 --> 01:20:33,040 Speaker 11: it's a historic week for Britain. You had two bills passed, 1675 01:20:33,560 --> 01:20:38,800 Speaker 11: one decriminalizing abortion right up to the date of pregnancy 1676 01:20:38,840 --> 01:20:43,280 Speaker 11: of birth and the other one allowing assisted dying. And 1677 01:20:43,800 --> 01:20:46,599 Speaker 11: you kind of guess there are great reasons on both 1678 01:20:46,640 --> 01:20:51,599 Speaker 11: sides for both cases. But you do get the feeling 1679 01:20:51,640 --> 01:20:56,559 Speaker 11: that we've drifted a long long way from the sort 1680 01:20:56,560 --> 01:21:00,880 Speaker 11: of Christian basis which we had in this society, that 1681 01:21:01,240 --> 01:21:04,519 Speaker 11: we are now very very secular, and that all the 1682 01:21:04,600 --> 01:21:07,679 Speaker 11: old stuff we used to believe in simply doesn't matter anymore. 1683 01:21:07,680 --> 01:21:09,200 Speaker 2: We will catch up with you on Thursday, and my 1684 01:21:09,200 --> 01:21:11,160 Speaker 2: friend Rod a little out of Britain. The only other thing, 1685 01:21:11,240 --> 01:21:14,000 Speaker 2: and it's sort of tied in with the military. As 1686 01:21:14,320 --> 01:21:17,840 Speaker 2: Ed Davey, who's the Lib DEM's head ten thousand pounds, 1687 01:21:17,840 --> 01:21:21,400 Speaker 2: he reckons to join the army, and he's also going 1688 01:21:21,479 --> 01:21:23,920 Speaker 2: to distribute pamphlets. What he wants to do is boost 1689 01:21:23,920 --> 01:21:26,120 Speaker 2: the army. They urgently need to boost the number of 1690 01:21:26,160 --> 01:21:28,519 Speaker 2: trained soldiers from just under seventy one thousand more than 1691 01:21:28,520 --> 01:21:32,040 Speaker 2: seventy three thousand, so that they can tackle the quote 1692 01:21:32,120 --> 01:21:37,320 Speaker 2: barbaric Putin and quote erratic Trump. UK must be better prepared, 1693 01:21:37,320 --> 01:21:40,200 Speaker 2: so that he's going to distribute pamphlets to make sure 1694 01:21:40,240 --> 01:21:43,000 Speaker 2: that every British homer is war ready and able to 1695 01:21:43,000 --> 01:21:45,320 Speaker 2: deal with blackouts and chaos caused by the outbreak of 1696 01:21:45,320 --> 01:21:49,880 Speaker 2: conflict and or cyber attacks. He's fun going and if 1697 01:21:49,920 --> 01:21:51,240 Speaker 2: you want to join the army, you can have ten 1698 01:21:51,280 --> 01:21:54,320 Speaker 2: thousand quid. Not that that's actually going to happen, because 1699 01:21:54,360 --> 01:21:56,280 Speaker 2: it's Davy eight forty five. 1700 01:21:57,840 --> 01:22:02,280 Speaker 1: The like asking Breakfast Full Show bodcast on iHeartRadio, Howard 1701 01:22:02,280 --> 01:22:03,439 Speaker 1: by News Talk ZEDB. 1702 01:22:04,920 --> 01:22:08,240 Speaker 2: Morning Make I'm gonna miss Steve's segment on your show. 1703 01:22:08,320 --> 01:22:10,519 Speaker 2: Really enjoy our Australian correspond So the only reason I 1704 01:22:10,560 --> 01:22:12,599 Speaker 2: read that out is the good news is you're wrong. 1705 01:22:12,960 --> 01:22:15,360 Speaker 2: Steve is not going anywhere. What we were talking about 1706 01:22:15,360 --> 01:22:17,920 Speaker 2: the other day is it was Steve's last appearance on 1707 01:22:17,960 --> 01:22:20,280 Speaker 2: the Project in Australia last night on Channel ten. He's 1708 01:22:20,280 --> 01:22:22,519 Speaker 2: been on the program each Monday night for the last 1709 01:22:22,520 --> 01:22:26,400 Speaker 2: fifteen or sixteen years. I note this morning in one 1710 01:22:26,439 --> 01:22:29,120 Speaker 2: of the more tabloid versions of the Australian media, the 1711 01:22:29,240 --> 01:22:31,559 Speaker 2: suggesting through the headline was he was in tears, and 1712 01:22:31,600 --> 01:22:33,320 Speaker 2: I thought, Steve and tears. I find that very hard 1713 01:22:33,320 --> 01:22:33,679 Speaker 2: to believe. 1714 01:22:33,800 --> 01:22:35,880 Speaker 19: Do we really want to be associated with the Cray 1715 01:22:35,920 --> 01:22:36,720 Speaker 19: baby silkerbatment? 1716 01:22:36,800 --> 01:22:39,559 Speaker 2: Well exactly, so that's why I dug into the story, 1717 01:22:39,640 --> 01:22:41,800 Speaker 2: and of course the headline was crap. There were no 1718 01:22:41,920 --> 01:22:44,800 Speaker 2: tears the cut they played. He was just sad to 1719 01:22:44,800 --> 01:22:47,280 Speaker 2: see them going and that was the end of that 1720 01:22:48,920 --> 01:22:50,720 Speaker 2: to Mike's team. Did you hear that on the Paul 1721 01:22:50,760 --> 01:22:53,400 Speaker 2: murray lie program? Speaking of Sky Sky's Steve still got 1722 01:22:53,439 --> 01:22:55,360 Speaker 2: a job on SKYE by the way, so he's on 1723 01:22:55,479 --> 01:22:58,599 Speaker 2: Sky no longer on Channel ten and also on ZB 1724 01:22:58,760 --> 01:23:02,280 Speaker 2: so he's happily. Did you hear on Paul Murray's program 1725 01:23:02,600 --> 01:23:04,559 Speaker 2: last night there's a meeting going on between the Russian 1726 01:23:04,600 --> 01:23:08,439 Speaker 2: and the Iranians. They're offering them nuclear weapons three exclamation marks? 1727 01:23:08,479 --> 01:23:11,000 Speaker 2: Can you verify this with your contacts? Question mark love 1728 01:23:11,040 --> 01:23:14,360 Speaker 2: your program, Jill, I can that's just standard stuff in 1729 01:23:14,400 --> 01:23:17,320 Speaker 2: the sense it was the Foreign Minister Lavrov, the blow 1730 01:23:17,360 --> 01:23:19,559 Speaker 2: from Iran was already there. They were going to have 1731 01:23:19,600 --> 01:23:21,080 Speaker 2: a meeting, and what they do is they drum up 1732 01:23:21,080 --> 01:23:22,519 Speaker 2: a bit of you know, a bit of drama, bit 1733 01:23:22,560 --> 01:23:24,800 Speaker 2: of drama drama, and they say, you know, there's a 1734 01:23:24,800 --> 01:23:26,800 Speaker 2: big long queue of people waiting to get these people 1735 01:23:27,240 --> 01:23:29,800 Speaker 2: nuclear weapons, and everyone in the rest of the world's 1736 01:23:29,800 --> 01:23:34,240 Speaker 2: supposed to go oo like that. And then you know, 1737 01:23:34,479 --> 01:23:36,200 Speaker 2: but we've been as I said earlier on the program, 1738 01:23:36,280 --> 01:23:39,760 Speaker 2: we've been here so many times before, really were a 1739 01:23:39,760 --> 01:23:42,320 Speaker 2: bit over it. It strikes me as regional. It will 1740 01:23:42,360 --> 01:23:45,840 Speaker 2: remain regional. There are some material complications for a place 1741 01:23:45,920 --> 01:23:47,720 Speaker 2: like New Zealand this morning given the space, as far 1742 01:23:47,720 --> 01:23:50,960 Speaker 2: as they know, over cut is still closed, but apart 1743 01:23:51,000 --> 01:23:54,719 Speaker 2: from that, it will be largely contained. Certainly, the US 1744 01:23:54,760 --> 01:23:58,519 Speaker 2: President appears to be overtly confident that this thing has 1745 01:23:58,560 --> 01:24:02,120 Speaker 2: been contained to a singular retaliatory strike. Does remind me, 1746 01:24:02,280 --> 01:24:05,760 Speaker 2: was it it must have been last year Israel went 1747 01:24:05,880 --> 01:24:08,760 Speaker 2: after Was it the HOOTI for the first time, or 1748 01:24:08,800 --> 01:24:14,200 Speaker 2: did they go into Iran and Iran telegraphed several days 1749 01:24:14,240 --> 01:24:16,040 Speaker 2: in advance, a whole lot of drones were coming across. 1750 01:24:16,080 --> 01:24:17,760 Speaker 2: You remember that a whole pile of drones were coming 1751 01:24:17,760 --> 01:24:20,920 Speaker 2: across from Iran. They said, we're just setting the drones 1752 01:24:20,920 --> 01:24:25,679 Speaker 2: off now here they come and Israel shot them all down. 1753 01:24:25,720 --> 01:24:27,200 Speaker 2: That's basically how this was. 1754 01:24:27,320 --> 01:24:29,920 Speaker 19: And saying that and that post of Trumps, he did 1755 01:24:30,000 --> 01:24:33,639 Speaker 19: allude to there being fourteen missiles, one of which he 1756 01:24:33,880 --> 01:24:38,080 Speaker 19: set free. Set free, I see that AP. Note that 1757 01:24:38,680 --> 01:24:41,000 Speaker 19: he has good relations with AP these days. Of course, 1758 01:24:41,720 --> 01:24:44,200 Speaker 19: claim that there have actually been nineteen missiles, one of 1759 01:24:44,240 --> 01:24:47,760 Speaker 19: which actually it did impact on the g I saw 1760 01:24:47,800 --> 01:24:48,360 Speaker 19: the explosion. 1761 01:24:49,760 --> 01:24:51,720 Speaker 2: It did impact. But at the end of the day, 1762 01:24:51,520 --> 01:24:54,320 Speaker 2: they basically got them all. My point being overall, if 1763 01:24:54,320 --> 01:24:56,880 Speaker 2: you think that oil is spiking, the straits of her 1764 01:24:56,960 --> 01:24:59,719 Speaker 2: moves are going to get shut. There is a global recession, 1765 01:24:59,760 --> 01:25:03,240 Speaker 2: Come my guts is no that's going to happen. Night 1766 01:25:03,360 --> 01:25:04,960 Speaker 2: away from nine them. 1767 01:25:04,840 --> 01:25:08,839 Speaker 1: My Hosking breakfast with Bailey's real estate news dogs, there'd. 1768 01:25:08,600 --> 01:25:11,599 Speaker 2: Be You're a brilliant man, might but completely delusional on 1769 01:25:11,600 --> 01:25:14,479 Speaker 2: one thing. Aa aka the warriors. What wasn't me, that's 1770 01:25:14,520 --> 01:25:16,880 Speaker 2: not me, don't shoot the messenger. That was Fox sport. 1771 01:25:17,439 --> 01:25:19,320 Speaker 2: They know what they're doing. They're Australians, they know what 1772 01:25:19,320 --> 01:25:22,320 Speaker 2: they're doing. They can see the genius of the warriors. 1773 01:25:22,360 --> 01:25:24,200 Speaker 2: You'll be crying and your beer when it happens. What 1774 01:25:24,200 --> 01:25:26,040 Speaker 2: are you gonna do? You're gonna text me when it happens. Ah, 1775 01:25:26,040 --> 01:25:28,240 Speaker 2: You're going to congratulate me on being right and consistent 1776 01:25:28,280 --> 01:25:31,280 Speaker 2: all the years years. A bet you won't. Bet you'll 1777 01:25:31,280 --> 01:25:34,000 Speaker 2: be hiding. Bet you'll be in your bunker five minutes 1778 01:25:34,040 --> 01:25:34,519 Speaker 2: away from. 1779 01:25:34,479 --> 01:25:38,880 Speaker 4: Nine trending now quit chemist warehouse. Celebrate big brands and 1780 01:25:38,960 --> 01:25:39,839 Speaker 4: biggest savings. 1781 01:25:40,040 --> 01:25:40,200 Speaker 8: Now. 1782 01:25:40,280 --> 01:25:42,559 Speaker 2: I've watched these and there's several of them, and it's 1783 01:25:42,640 --> 01:25:45,200 Speaker 2: quite clever. And it's not always Eli Manning, who I'm 1784 01:25:45,200 --> 01:25:48,880 Speaker 2: referencing this morning, but others have done it. Jared Goff 1785 01:25:48,920 --> 01:25:51,360 Speaker 2: did one. He was very funny. I'm talking about NFL 1786 01:25:51,400 --> 01:25:55,120 Speaker 2: American football. So Eli Manning, famous New York Giants quarterback 1787 01:25:55,479 --> 01:25:59,280 Speaker 2: x Peyton Manning's brother. If you watch the esp AND 1788 01:25:59,320 --> 01:26:02,680 Speaker 2: football when the season's on, they do what would you 1789 01:26:02,720 --> 01:26:05,160 Speaker 2: call it a counter program on ESPN two at the 1790 01:26:05,160 --> 01:26:08,559 Speaker 2: same time that Monday night football's on. Anyway, Elo Manning 1791 01:26:08,640 --> 01:26:12,040 Speaker 2: puts on a wig, turns up his Chad Powers pretends 1792 01:26:12,080 --> 01:26:13,840 Speaker 2: to be Chad Powers. He turns up at Penn State 1793 01:26:13,840 --> 01:26:16,840 Speaker 2: Football College. He's twenty six years old. He's coming back 1794 01:26:16,880 --> 01:26:19,000 Speaker 2: for his eighth year at college. Now none of the 1795 01:26:19,000 --> 01:26:20,920 Speaker 2: players know this is going on. This is all being 1796 01:26:20,960 --> 01:26:25,639 Speaker 2: secretly filmed. The assistant coaches don't know what's going on either. Anyway, 1797 01:26:25,760 --> 01:26:27,720 Speaker 2: he tosses the ball around, does a few plays, and 1798 01:26:27,720 --> 01:26:30,320 Speaker 2: everyone goes, oh my god, this guy at woo and 1799 01:26:30,360 --> 01:26:33,759 Speaker 2: so the assistant coach speaks to the scouts, thinking he's discovered. 1800 01:26:33,800 --> 01:26:36,880 Speaker 3: Somebody say the. 1801 01:26:36,840 --> 01:26:37,679 Speaker 8: Chad Powers gay. 1802 01:26:37,880 --> 01:26:38,280 Speaker 6: It's good. 1803 01:26:39,040 --> 01:26:39,880 Speaker 8: I think I see something. 1804 01:26:40,680 --> 01:26:46,439 Speaker 17: Yeah, all right, all right, I see you baby. 1805 01:26:47,400 --> 01:26:50,439 Speaker 2: So the video is so popular they've now gone this 1806 01:26:50,560 --> 01:26:52,160 Speaker 2: was just like a viral thing. It's two or three 1807 01:26:52,200 --> 01:26:55,559 Speaker 2: minutes long. They've made an entire show around it. It's 1808 01:26:55,560 --> 01:26:59,639 Speaker 2: about a guy who was humiliated in his last college 1809 01:26:59,680 --> 01:27:02,519 Speaker 2: game that he puts on a whole new look. He 1810 01:27:02,600 --> 01:27:05,200 Speaker 2: becomes Chad Powers for next season. 1811 01:27:05,320 --> 01:27:09,160 Speaker 3: Everyone says, I'm done with footfore her. There's no such 1812 01:27:09,160 --> 01:27:09,960 Speaker 3: thing as bad price. 1813 01:27:10,680 --> 01:27:13,599 Speaker 2: Thank you please, Russ, I'll play with someone else. 1814 01:27:14,439 --> 01:27:16,240 Speaker 4: He's like extremely. 1815 01:27:15,720 --> 01:27:21,559 Speaker 2: Ugly Glenn Powell. Am I supposed to know that name? 1816 01:27:22,600 --> 01:27:26,000 Speaker 2: Glenn Palell anyway, he's the star of the show. That's 1817 01:27:26,040 --> 01:27:27,640 Speaker 2: just the teaser for the show they've release going to 1818 01:27:27,720 --> 01:27:30,559 Speaker 2: be on Disney Plus the end of September. But in 1819 01:27:30,600 --> 01:27:34,080 Speaker 2: the meantime, if you can contain yourself, go look at 1820 01:27:34,520 --> 01:27:39,000 Speaker 2: Jared Goff did one, Eli Manning did one. I want 1821 01:27:39,000 --> 01:27:41,160 Speaker 2: to say Peyton Manning did one as well. Several of 1822 01:27:41,200 --> 01:27:42,840 Speaker 2: them have done them over the years, and they drop 1823 01:27:42,880 --> 01:27:45,160 Speaker 2: into college teams and people just freak out about how 1824 01:27:45,160 --> 01:27:48,280 Speaker 2: good they are. It's really quite entertaining. It's almost as 1825 01:27:48,479 --> 01:27:52,559 Speaker 2: entertaining as this program. We're back tomorrow midweek already. Can 1826 01:27:52,600 --> 01:27:54,639 Speaker 2: you believe that the weak is Wizn't you also believe 1827 01:27:54,640 --> 01:27:56,200 Speaker 2: it's the end of June? Can you also believe it's 1828 01:27:56,240 --> 01:27:58,200 Speaker 2: over half the year gone? So not on it's Wednesday, 1829 01:27:58,280 --> 01:28:00,200 Speaker 2: Not it's the end of June, but over half the 1830 01:28:00,280 --> 01:28:03,479 Speaker 2: year has basically gone. We're on the and the solstice 1831 01:28:03,520 --> 01:28:06,440 Speaker 2: the other day. We're going to longer days and sunshine 1832 01:28:06,479 --> 01:28:09,040 Speaker 2: and summer and spring, and I mean it's basically Christmas 1833 01:28:09,280 --> 01:28:11,839 Speaker 2: back tomorrow from Six Happy Days. 1834 01:28:11,760 --> 01:28:17,280 Speaker 5: Home Worse Night fifty five years down the road. 1835 01:28:17,320 --> 01:28:20,200 Speaker 1: For more from the Mic Asking Breakfast, listen live to 1836 01:28:20,320 --> 01:28:23,400 Speaker 1: News Talks. It'd be from six am weekdays, or follow 1837 01:28:23,439 --> 01:28:25,000 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio