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Speaker 3: B Okay, riddle me this. How is it that a

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Speaker 3: baby giraffe is born with the ability to walk, and

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Speaker 3: yet a baby human, for all our supposed advancements, is

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Speaker 3: born not knowing the difference between day and night. How

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Speaker 3: does that work? How does that work? My goodness, so

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Speaker 3: many questions, so little sleep, But it is my pleasure

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Speaker 3: to be to be with you this Saturday morning, and

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Speaker 3: we have a very big show on news Talks. He'd

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Speaker 3: be after ten o'clock this morning. We're going to be

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Speaker 3: catching up with austral Australian acting legend David Wynham. He

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Speaker 3: has been in all sorts of big name Hollywood blockbusters,

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Speaker 3: the likes of Lord of the Rings, Van Helsing Lion. Anyway,

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Speaker 3: he's in this amazing you really kind of heartfelt Australian

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Speaker 3: comedy called Spit. That's the name of his character, Johnny Spittery.

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Speaker 3: So David Wenham's going to be with us after ten

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Speaker 3: to tell us a little bit about that before ten

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Speaker 3: o'clock this morning, if you're looking for a nice little

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Speaker 3: light breakfast just to round out some a mango chia

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Speaker 3: of putting recipe to share with you. Right now, it's

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Speaker 3: eight minutes past nine.

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Speaker 2: Check team.

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Speaker 3: And as a sports fan, I suppose it was actually

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Speaker 3: a kind of genuinely meaningful moment. I was sitting there

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Speaker 3: a decision to make. Do I watch Moana Pacifica play

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Speaker 3: the Highlanders, neither of which is my first choice team,

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Speaker 3: but Super Rugby Super Rugby and it was a local

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Speaker 3: derby no less? Or do I switch channels and watch

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Speaker 3: the Phoenix play Melbourne City in the A League Again

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Speaker 3: not a result I was particularly invested in, or angst

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Speaker 3: thing over in any way, but a game that I

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Speaker 3: It's kind of ridiculous the extent to which our household

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Speaker 3: for the rest of the season for me and our

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Speaker 3: sport perspective, you know, being there in person, they just

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Speaker 3: good family atmosphere. It feels safe, it feels fun. They've

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Speaker 3: up slide stretching the length of the Northern embankment sliding

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Speaker 3: down which on day one I very nearly lost my shorts.

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Speaker 3: Games kick off at five pm five pm. That means

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Speaker 3: think two that one of the most underrated qualities in

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Speaker 3: And while most games don't get quite that many fans,

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Speaker 3: I've been affected too. At least I realized I have

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Speaker 3: I just wonder how many households in New Zealand might

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Speaker 3: PostScript to it all, of course, is that I should

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Speaker 3: have stuck with the rugby, a much more, much much

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Speaker 3: Onea Pacifica in the Highlanders than the Phoenix Melbourne City

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Speaker 3: turned out to be. But never mind, never mind. In

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Speaker 3: these you know, in the moment you have to choose

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Speaker 3: we'll get our Sportos thoughts on that very shortly. Next up,

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Speaker 3: Kevin Milon's going to kick us off for Saturday Mornings.

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Speaker 3: Right now, it's twelve minutes past night. I'm Jack Tavis

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Speaker 3: Saturday Morning and this is news Dog's edby a.

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Speaker 1: Little bit of way to kick off your weekend than

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Speaker 3: Jack totally agree with you. The aleague has been incredibly exciting.

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Speaker 3: Auckland FC have been astonishing in their run so far.

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Speaker 3: The real test will come when they start to lose.

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Speaker 3: Come on, we don't want to have that kind of

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Speaker 3: chat just yet. Jack, simple, the giraffe needs to run

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Speaker 3: otherwise it'll be dinner. You're true that ninety two ninety

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Speaker 3: They're not too expensive though, so that shouldn't be too

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Speaker 3: us this morning morning there Kevin.

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Speaker 4: More in the jack. Well, that was very interesting.

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Speaker 5: I'm I'm pleased you added that little piece on at

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Speaker 5: the end that said that the that the A League

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Speaker 5: actually that the match last night was not a great

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So here's the thing I did. I wasn't dishonest

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Speaker 3: thrilling game between the One and PACIFICA and the Highlanders

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Speaker 3: on the North Shore last night. But Kevin, you have

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Speaker 5: Yeah, during the week I got involved for the first

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Speaker 5: time in a live online art auction it's like trade

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Speaker 5: me on steroids, with people from all over the country,

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Speaker 5: all over the world maybe registering to bid. I was

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Speaker 5: keen on a Robin White screen print, a self portrait

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Speaker 5: from nineteen seventy nine, and I led the bidding for

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Speaker 5: If the artworks on high demand, all hell breaks loose.

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Speaker 5: It's more exciting than the tally, even if you don't

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Speaker 5: sold above expectations for ten thousand dollars. But the star

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Speaker 5: This was a painting that got a lot of publicity

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Speaker 5: last week. The Raven Turner oil painting that Split Ends

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Speaker 5: used on the cover of their nineteen eighty Frenzy album.

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Speaker 5: It's a large painting with the original six members of

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Speaker 5: Spread Ends in front of a dilapidated farm shed alongside

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Speaker 5: a big mob of sheep, it's a great painting. Actually,

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Speaker 5: the auctioneers estimated it itself for between twelve and twenty

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Speaker 5: two thousand, and usually those estimates are pretty accurate. But

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Speaker 5: the pop culture, of course, is a way of surprising everyone.

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Speaker 5: And the spread Ends painting sold for eighty thousand. You

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Speaker 5: might wonder does the artist, raevend Turner get anything out

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Speaker 5: of that? Up to this year she'd have got nothing.

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Speaker 5: But now on top of the buyer's premium, buyers had

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Speaker 5: back to the original artist. Is called the artist's resale

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Speaker 5: royalty scheme. So that's five grand or so back to

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Speaker 5: raevend Turner, I imagine, which I think is great. I do

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Speaker 5: wonder Jack, it's the new owner of the painting, isn't

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's interesting. It would be. It would be

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Speaker 3: asking to say it's someone who's not hasn't impacted too

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Speaker 3: That is amazing first of all, like superb that that

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Speaker 3: think it must be so frustrating for artists seeing their

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Speaker 3: and maybe not being able to share in some of that.

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Speaker 3: Second of all, do you know that when I proposed

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Speaker 3: to my wife, I bought her a little Robin white

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Speaker 3: print and an article? Oh did you there?

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Speaker 4: You go?

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Speaker 3: Now, I can assure you it did not cost him

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Speaker 5: No, no, no.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, no no. We absolutely love Robin White, and

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Speaker 3: so I got I got this beautiful little print from

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Speaker 3: my wife also lived in kiddy Bus for it, and

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Speaker 3: Kiddy Bush.

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Speaker 5: I've got a little Robin white print from Bats on

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Speaker 3: We got we're probably got the same one. We've probably

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Speaker 3: I've probably got number thirty two or forty and you've

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Speaker 3: Anyway, yeah, no, it's and it looks very disciplined of

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Speaker 3: little bit of dictive. That's wrong with the online auction state.

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Speaker 5: You think, oh hell yeah, yeah, I could have I

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Speaker 5: with that Robin white print. But no, no, I think

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Speaker 5: you've got to You've got to make a number that

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Speaker 3: Thank you for your feedback this morning, Jack, I totally

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Speaker 4: Morning Jack. You've done the heavy lifting for me already

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Speaker 7: And speaking of which, you would have seen the Phoenix

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Speaker 4: There was a theory that one man can't change a

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Speaker 7: He almost won that game for them last night, as

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Speaker 3: No, they absolutely will be. I mean they I thought

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Speaker 7: Yeah, opening game tomorrow, full competition game in Vegas.

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Speaker 7: Look, it's it's a good exhibition. It's been a good

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Speaker 3: Now, what about We're going to Barney Done, We're going

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Speaker 3: You know you think about the Castle right, there's no

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Speaker 8: a trailer out of this film, because this is a

433
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Speaker 8: very raw, hard hitting film about a teenage girl living

434
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Speaker 8: in poverty, surrounded by drugs and violence. She's got some

435
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Speaker 8: well meaning but absolutely useless parents, and she lives in Rundown, Kent,

436
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Speaker 8: And there is an awful lot of colorful language and

437
00:23:08,653 --> 00:23:10,613
Speaker 8: things in this film, and that's why I was wondering

438
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Speaker 8: whether we'd be able to get a trainer out of it.

439
00:23:13,253 --> 00:23:16,333
Speaker 8: Nikea Adams plays the twelve year old Bailey. She is

440
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Speaker 8: a newcomer and she is just beautifully restrained in this

441
00:23:20,333 --> 00:23:24,653
Speaker 8: film and does an excellent job. It also stars Arry

442
00:23:24,733 --> 00:23:29,893
Speaker 8: Key Kegan Kiogan, who is excellent as her father Bug

443
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Speaker 8: as well. It very much starts out as a social

444
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Speaker 8: realist coming of age story. It's exploring identity and loneliness

445
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Speaker 8: and belonging and also finding safety, this need for safety

446
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Speaker 8: in life. And we watch Bailey, who is already older

447
00:23:46,693 --> 00:23:49,453
Speaker 8: than her years and has seen more than a twelve

448
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Speaker 8: year old should ever see or deal with in life.

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Speaker 8: And we watch her as she deals with her father's

450
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Speaker 8: upcoming wedding, her mother's abusive boyfriend, and she's looking after

451
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Speaker 8: various siblings and things as well. It's a really tough,

452
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Speaker 8: cruel world. And as she's dealing with all this, Bailey

453
00:24:05,013 --> 00:24:07,813
Speaker 8: meets this young man who heard the trailer. He's called

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Speaker 8: Bird and he's trying to find his roots in Kent.

455
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Speaker 8: He believes he was originally from Kent. He's trying to

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Speaker 8: find his parents and she helps him find his father.

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Speaker 8: And so for all that, the film has this very

458
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Speaker 8: strong sense of social realism. Also what starts to appear

459
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Speaker 8: throughout this film is a touch of magical realism and

460
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Speaker 8: it adds a very moving and probably quite unexpected element

461
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Speaker 8: to the film, even if it doesn't quite come together

462
00:24:38,733 --> 00:24:41,653
Speaker 8: I think as well as it possibly could have. So look,

463
00:24:41,693 --> 00:24:45,653
Speaker 8: this is really challenging. Barry Kegan has been nominated for

464
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Speaker 8: numerous awards for his performance, Andrea Arnold always presents us

465
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Speaker 8: with something really challenging and in your face. The dialect

466
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Speaker 8: is quite hard to get your hand head around. But

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Speaker 8: once again, just stunning performances, amazing slice of life and

468
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Speaker 8: you know, you walk out of the cinema maybe a

469
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Speaker 8: little perplexed, also kind of very moved by what you've seen.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, all right, it sounds interesting. So that is Bird.

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Speaker 3: It's showing at the movies right now. Another film showing

472
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Speaker 3: at the cinema. This is William Tell.

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Speaker 6: God does along forgot?

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Speaker 2: This is about our freedom, our fans.

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Speaker 9: I leave them naked and trembling before me fight for us.

476
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Speaker 10: We will do it as one.

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Speaker 3: Okay, that's William Tell.

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Speaker 8: As you expect an ethical historical drama. This is a

479
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Speaker 8: story of the folklore hero who shot the apple from

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Speaker 8: his son's head, and I think that that's probably what

481
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Speaker 8: most of us will associate with William Tell. This film,

482
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Speaker 8: which has been adapted by the eighteen o six play

483
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Speaker 8: by Schiller, tries to kind of fill out the story

484
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Speaker 8: somewhat as to who William Tell might have been. There

485
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Speaker 8: are some changes to that play from eighteen o six.

486
00:26:02,773 --> 00:26:05,093
Speaker 8: William Tell has been given a Muslim wife in this

487
00:26:05,213 --> 00:26:07,493
Speaker 8: film that we see a fly back. This is the

488
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Speaker 8: result of Tal's experiences in the Crusades, but he is

489
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Speaker 8: older now. He is living a very peaceful life as

490
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Speaker 8: a farmer and a Huntsman and the beautiful Swiss Alps.

491
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Speaker 8: We're in the fourteenth century here, Switzerland is under the

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Speaker 8: control of the Austrians, and what we have are a

493
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Speaker 8: couple of things going on here. We have sort of

494
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Speaker 8: a film about politics and power and land grabs, you know,

495
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Speaker 8: the Swiss sort of starting to decide that they're a

496
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Speaker 8: bit sick of being governed by the Austrians, who are

497
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Speaker 8: a cruel governors. And we also have this character of

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Speaker 8: William Tawler is a man who has experienced an awful

499
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Speaker 8: lot of violence in his life but now lives a

500
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Speaker 8: peaceful life and doesn't really particularly want to get back

501
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Speaker 8: involved in a violent revolt or rebellion against the Austrians.

502
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Speaker 8: But he does, and his family is threatened and really

503
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Speaker 8: there is no going back. So we watch this internal

504
00:27:00,293 --> 00:27:03,373
Speaker 8: conflict between this man sort of really struggle with the

505
00:27:03,413 --> 00:27:06,813
Speaker 8: fact that he sees that all these different plans itslanda

506
00:27:06,893 --> 00:27:10,173
Speaker 8: ready to rise up, but does he really want to

507
00:27:10,213 --> 00:27:12,333
Speaker 8: step back into that world and be part of that

508
00:27:13,373 --> 00:27:17,773
Speaker 8: great cast. Klay's Bang, who is the Danish actor who

509
00:27:18,573 --> 00:27:22,413
Speaker 8: became internationally famous when he appeared in a film called

510
00:27:22,453 --> 00:27:25,213
Speaker 8: The Square, which won the Palm d'Or rw in two

511
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Speaker 8: thousand and seventeen. Maybe he's then been in Bad Sisters

512
00:27:30,373 --> 00:27:34,253
Speaker 8: on Apple TV. He's been in The Northman with Nicole Kidman.

513
00:27:34,533 --> 00:27:37,973
Speaker 8: He's really good at playing baddies. He always plays the villain.

514
00:27:38,013 --> 00:27:39,733
Speaker 8: In this particular case, he's stepping up.

515
00:27:39,613 --> 00:27:40,053
Speaker 11: As the hero.

516
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Speaker 8: He's actually going to join me on the Sunday session

517
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Speaker 8: tomorrow after eleven and we're going to talk a little

518
00:27:43,733 --> 00:27:45,493
Speaker 8: bit about that, about what it's like to go from

519
00:27:45,493 --> 00:27:49,053
Speaker 8: always being the smartly nasty villain to suddenly being the hero.

520
00:27:50,613 --> 00:27:53,253
Speaker 8: And also stars Jonathan Price and Ben Kingsley, so really

521
00:27:53,293 --> 00:27:57,013
Speaker 8: great cast. Look, it's full of action and sweeping vistas,

522
00:27:57,133 --> 00:27:59,893
Speaker 8: villains and the rebels. It's quite far fetched, but it's

523
00:27:59,893 --> 00:28:03,933
Speaker 8: played very seriously. Yeah, and it's quite It's got a

524
00:28:03,933 --> 00:28:07,213
Speaker 8: few odd quirks. It's sort of Shakespearean dialoge thrown in

525
00:28:07,213 --> 00:28:09,933
Speaker 8: here as well. So writer director Nick Han has kind

526
00:28:09,933 --> 00:28:12,653
Speaker 8: of tried to create something a little bit original, but

527
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Speaker 8: I actually I think what he's trying to do is

528
00:28:14,773 --> 00:28:18,333
Speaker 8: create a historical epic that's kind of the equivalent of

529
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Speaker 8: the superhero film. And you do get the impression that

530
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Speaker 8: there is going to be a sequel. So yeah, it's

531
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Speaker 8: kind of good old fashioned, innocent fun when it to

532
00:28:26,453 --> 00:28:29,813
Speaker 8: you know, lots of action and things and a bit

533
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Speaker 8: of a sort of set in a historical setting.

534
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Speaker 3: That sounds good, ye cool, Okay, that's William Tell. So

535
00:28:35,253 --> 00:28:38,213
Speaker 3: that's showing the cinemas at the moment, Francis, I put

536
00:28:38,613 --> 00:28:43,253
Speaker 3: sev Our Sporto on the I put a tough question

537
00:28:43,253 --> 00:28:45,053
Speaker 3: to him a couple of minutes ago, put him on

538
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Speaker 3: the spot with a bit of a trivia question, and

539
00:28:47,333 --> 00:28:48,493
Speaker 3: I'm not going to do the same to you, but

540
00:28:48,533 --> 00:28:50,653
Speaker 3: I am going to ask, by any chance, have you

541
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Speaker 3: seen the film Getting Square? It was a two thousand

542
00:28:55,093 --> 00:29:01,133
Speaker 3: and three Australian cult hit. But that's a long time, Yeah,

543
00:29:01,173 --> 00:29:05,093
Speaker 3: a film called Getting Square. David David David.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, he's a fantastic.

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00:29:08,293 --> 00:29:11,413
Speaker 3: He is fantastic, But he is yeah, no, he is.

546
00:29:11,693 --> 00:29:15,333
Speaker 3: He's he's funny because he always plays like really like

547
00:29:15,453 --> 00:29:18,413
Speaker 3: quite serious characters and dramas, so he doesn't usually play

548
00:29:19,213 --> 00:29:19,973
Speaker 3: you know, it doesn't usually.

549
00:29:20,333 --> 00:29:23,453
Speaker 8: No, No, he's got a new film coming.

550
00:29:23,293 --> 00:29:26,133
Speaker 3: Out, yes, but yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, he's with

551
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Speaker 3: us after ten this time. No no, no, no, no,

552
00:29:28,653 --> 00:29:30,893
Speaker 3: he's not that at all. But the reason I asked

553
00:29:30,933 --> 00:29:34,053
Speaker 3: is because his character in this films but is based

554
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Speaker 3: on a character in Getting Square from two thousand and three,

555
00:29:37,173 --> 00:29:38,533
Speaker 3: or it's not based on it, it is a character.

556
00:29:38,573 --> 00:29:41,453
Speaker 3: He was sort of like a little part character in

557
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Speaker 3: Getting Square. Getting Square ended up having a massive kind

558
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Speaker 3: of cult following, did really well in DV details and

559
00:29:47,293 --> 00:29:49,693
Speaker 3: that kind of thing, and his character was the sort

560
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Speaker 3: of fan favorite. And so anyway, they've turned that character

561
00:29:51,973 --> 00:29:55,093
Speaker 3: more than twenty years later into the main character, the

562
00:29:55,093 --> 00:29:58,493
Speaker 3: protagonist and the new feature. So anyway, after ten this morning,

563
00:29:58,533 --> 00:30:00,093
Speaker 3: he's going to be with us. But thank you so much.

564
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Speaker 3: We'll make sure those films are up on the News Talks.

565
00:30:01,693 --> 00:30:04,813
Speaker 3: He'd be website once again. Bird was Francisca's first pick

566
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Speaker 3: for this week and William Tell is her second pick.

567
00:30:08,373 --> 00:30:11,053
Speaker 3: Both of those showing in cinemas now right now, it

568
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Speaker 3: is just coming up to quarter to ten. You're with

569
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Speaker 3: Jack Tame on Newstalks.

570
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Speaker 1: EDB Saturday Mornings with Jack Tay keeping the conversation going

571
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Speaker 1: through the weekend with Bpure dot co dot inst for

572
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Speaker 1: high Quality Supplements US Talks EDB.

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Speaker 3: After ten o'clock on Newstalks EDB. If you can't be

574
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Speaker 3: bothered going out to the movies at the moment you

575
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Speaker 3: don't want to make it to the cinema. No dramas.

576
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Speaker 3: We're going to share with you our screen time picks.

577
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Speaker 3: So every week at about twenty past ten on News Talks,

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Speaker 3: edb Our screen time expert comes to us with her

579
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Speaker 3: top picks for watching shows or streaming at home. There

580
00:30:44,893 --> 00:30:48,293
Speaker 3: are several fantastic news shows she wants to recommend to us,

581
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Speaker 3: So she's gonna be with us after ten this morning

582
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Speaker 3: and we'll give us her picks for this week, including

583
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Speaker 3: the show called Toxic Town, which is like this really

584
00:30:56,893 --> 00:30:59,973
Speaker 3: kind of amazing looking new British drama. It's based on

585
00:31:00,093 --> 00:31:04,653
Speaker 3: like a true story and it follows the Corby toxic

586
00:31:04,733 --> 00:31:07,853
Speaker 3: waste case and those situations where you have all of

587
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Speaker 3: the toxic wastes discovered, there are all these adverse health effects.

588
00:31:10,693 --> 00:31:12,933
Speaker 3: They try and track down who's responsible and then hold

589
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Speaker 3: very powerful people and companies to account. So we'll tell

590
00:31:16,133 --> 00:31:19,093
Speaker 3: you about that after ten this morning. Thank you if

591
00:31:19,093 --> 00:31:23,213
Speaker 3: your feedback. Just watched the clip with Trump and Zolensky Jack,

592
00:31:23,853 --> 00:31:26,533
Speaker 3: Donald Trump gets in the poor guy's face, pointing and

593
00:31:26,613 --> 00:31:29,413
Speaker 3: over talking him. Trump seems like a spoilt kid getting

594
00:31:29,453 --> 00:31:32,053
Speaker 3: his own way, God help us all. Well, I'm sure

595
00:31:32,053 --> 00:31:33,533
Speaker 3: there will be plenty of people who think that Donald

596
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Speaker 3: Trump was perfectly you're perfectly justified in his behavior. But

597
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Speaker 3: it's certainly, certainly a pretty remarkable thing to see that

598
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Speaker 3: kind of exchange in the Oval Office. It was interesting

599
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Speaker 3: because you had jd. Vance, the Vice President, and Trump,

600
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Speaker 3: both of them kind of talking talking over Zelensky. I

601
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Speaker 3: think that's fair that they were speaking, and they were

602
00:31:54,453 --> 00:31:57,293
Speaker 3: had raised voices as they were speaking to Zelensky, so

603
00:31:57,573 --> 00:32:02,013
Speaker 3: he seemed to stay relatively calm. But Trump and jad

604
00:32:02,133 --> 00:32:04,733
Speaker 3: Vance accused him of being disrespectful and said, no, come on,

605
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Speaker 3: you know you're in the Oval Office. You have to

606
00:32:06,453 --> 00:32:09,973
Speaker 3: be respectful. Don't worry you know that, They said, you know,

607
00:32:10,093 --> 00:32:12,813
Speaker 3: that's not the kind of response we want here. Anyway,

608
00:32:13,133 --> 00:32:15,133
Speaker 3: we'll have more of more about that now news at

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Speaker 3: ten o'clock this morning. If you want to see the video,

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Speaker 3: I urge you to have a look at the video.

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Speaker 3: Go to newstalks ZEDB dot co dot nz right now

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Speaker 3: it is twelve minutes to ten you with Jack Tame.

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Speaker 1: This is newstalk EDB giving you the inside scoop on

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Speaker 1: all you need to know Saturday Mornings with Jack Tame

615
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Speaker 1: and bpewre dot co dot Nz for high quality supplements,

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Speaker 1: news talks edb Jack.

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Speaker 3: Just like you, our family has been caught up in

618
00:32:40,413 --> 00:32:43,493
Speaker 3: the Auckland FC hype. I suppose the real test, as

619
00:32:43,533 --> 00:32:46,573
Speaker 3: you say, will come in the months or years ahead

620
00:32:46,613 --> 00:32:49,213
Speaker 3: when the team isn't quite as successful as they are now.

621
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Speaker 3: Very easy to get behind a winning team, but as

622
00:32:52,213 --> 00:32:55,933
Speaker 3: you say, the game day experience is remarkable, giving Rugby

623
00:32:55,973 --> 00:32:57,213
Speaker 3: a run for its money at the moment.

624
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I actually think my sense is that all kind of

626
00:33:01,053 --> 00:33:04,213
Speaker 3: live sport in New Zealand has kind of maybe I

627
00:33:04,213 --> 00:33:05,773
Speaker 3: could be wrong here, but has stepped up the game

628
00:33:05,773 --> 00:33:08,133
Speaker 3: a little bit of it in terms of its game

629
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Speaker 3: day experience. So a few weeks ago I went to

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Speaker 3: go and watch the Super Smash at the Outer Oval

631
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Speaker 3: at Eden Park and it was such a good experience

632
00:33:16,653 --> 00:33:19,013
Speaker 3: once again, like it was a just Auckland versus Wellington

633
00:33:19,133 --> 00:33:22,653
Speaker 3: Super Smash T twenty cricket. Some was out, it was

634
00:33:22,773 --> 00:33:25,253
Speaker 3: free to enter, you could come in, all the kids

635
00:33:25,253 --> 00:33:27,413
Speaker 3: got their game day programs, all those kinds of things.

636
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Speaker 3: They could go up and get autographs from the players.

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00:33:29,733 --> 00:33:32,813
Speaker 3: The players were really really open to that and welcoming,

638
00:33:32,853 --> 00:33:34,613
Speaker 3: so I think, you know, our boy was going and

639
00:33:34,653 --> 00:33:36,933
Speaker 3: chasing around various black Caps who were playing before they

640
00:33:36,973 --> 00:33:39,813
Speaker 3: headed off to the champions trophy. Once again, just a

641
00:33:39,853 --> 00:33:43,333
Speaker 3: really good family kind of vibe. And as well as

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00:33:43,373 --> 00:33:47,253
Speaker 3: the as well as the smaller or mid size stadiums

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Speaker 3: being key. I just wonder if, like the starting times,

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00:33:54,133 --> 00:33:58,613
Speaker 3: it was also an important an important dynamic in this equation.

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00:33:58,933 --> 00:34:01,213
Speaker 3: And with T twenty cricket, it wasn't a day night

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Speaker 3: or anything. We were just going for a day game

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Speaker 3: but kicked off in the afternoon. They had the men's

648
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Speaker 3: game and then the women's game straight afterwards. But you know,

649
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Speaker 3: like a five pm kickoff versus a seven pm kickoff

650
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Speaker 3: does make a big difference, doesn't it. So yeah, it's

651
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Speaker 3: going to be really interesting to see how other sports

652
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Speaker 3: administrators and other sports try and you know, respond to

653
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Speaker 3: the Auckland FC hype, and really interesting once the Warriors

654
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Speaker 3: are playing on home soil to compare how they kind of,

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Speaker 3: you know, how they can compare with Auckland FC. Now,

656
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Speaker 3: after ten o'clock this morning, we're going to catch up

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Speaker 3: with our tech spert in the US. It has been

658
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Speaker 3: a fascinating week of big announcements from the tech companies,

659
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Speaker 3: including one from Microsoft that just a couple of years

660
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Speaker 3: ago we could never have seen happen. Skype is about

661
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Speaker 3: to be discontinued. Skype is being switched off, It is

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Speaker 3: being shut down. And Skype's one of those amazing things

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Speaker 3: where it's kind of like it's kind of like Kleenex

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Speaker 3: or glad rap to. Skype became a verb as well

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Speaker 3: as a proper noun, right, Like that's how big Skype was.

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Speaker 3: It really was the kind of revolutionary video core technology. Well,

667
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Speaker 3: it turns out that Skype is no more. Microsoft is

668
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Speaker 3: deciding to pull all of its support for Skype and

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Speaker 3: put all of its chips behind Microsoft Teams instead. So

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Speaker 3: we're going to ask our texpert about that, what it'll

671
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Speaker 3: mean if you still use Skype and who could have

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Speaker 3: picked this just a couple of years ago, as well

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Speaker 3: as that Katie Perry is heading to Space of all places,

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Speaker 3: so he'll tell us exactly how that decision came about.

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Speaker 3: And then before midday today, we're going to share with

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Speaker 3: you some new music from the Kiwi duo Foley. They're

677
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Speaker 3: friends of the show Foley. We had them on a

678
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Speaker 3: wee while ago. Ash Wallace and Gabriel Evatt are their names.

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Speaker 3: They are a duo in they're based in Sydney now,

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Speaker 3: but they started in New Zealand and actually they met

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Speaker 3: at the kind of iconic event that so many New

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Speaker 3: Zealand musicians and New Zealand bands get their start out with. Yes,

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Speaker 3: they met at the iconic Smoke Free Rock Quest and

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Speaker 3: they started making music together under the band name Foley.

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Speaker 3: Their first album came back in twenty twenty three. It

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Speaker 3: was called Crowd Pleaser and it turned out to be

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Speaker 3: an extremely appropriate name because crowd Pleaser was very much

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Speaker 3: a crowd pleaser. It actually got them a few nominations

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Speaker 3: at the ALTA Or Music Awards. Now they have released

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Speaker 3: album number two, and we want to make sure that

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Speaker 3: we carve out a bit of space to have a

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Speaker 3: listened to that before mid Day to Day because it

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Speaker 3: does sound interesting and they've kind of headed in a

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Speaker 3: slightly different direction this time round. Ash and Gabriel Reckon.

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Speaker 3: They've kind of got a better grasp on their sound.

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Speaker 3: So their music reviewer has been listening to that. We're

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Speaker 3: going to listen to their album Never Feels Like Summer

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Speaker 3: or Never Feels Like Summer before mid day to day.

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Speaker 3: But have a listen to this. This is folly with

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Speaker 3: low and.

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Speaker 6: Highever won't let you sleep on the co refuse you want.

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Speaker 4: But you.

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Speaker 2: Take me and let the same recu.

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Speaker 12: You take me, take me mesh no way too much.

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Speaker 13: So play with the knife, baby so bad? Now over.

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Speaker 12: You gotta you gotta, you got a piece of you know.

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Speaker 6: I never, I never want you sleep on the go

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Speaker 6: refuse you.

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Speaker 12: Take me and letty ristumes to you.

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Speaker 13: You take me, you think, think, getting.

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Speaker 12: Think refuge to anyone, but you.

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Speaker 6: Take me alone and high left her away refuge too

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Speaker 6: well and you want but you take me a lot.

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Speaker 13: Thinking.

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Speaker 1: A cracking way to start your Saturday. Saturday Mornings with

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Speaker 1: Jack Day and b fewer dot co dot is sad

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Speaker 1: for high quality supplements.

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Speaker 2: News Talk said, be.

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Speaker 3: Golden New Zealand. Good morning, Welcome to News Talks, d B.

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Speaker 3: I'm Jack Tame. David Wenham is Australian acting royalty. You'll

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Speaker 3: know him from the likes of Lord of the Rings,

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Speaker 3: Van Helsing and Lyon. But back in two thousand and three,

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Speaker 3: David played the hilarious side character and an Aussie film

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Speaker 3: that had a modest release but went on to be

725
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Speaker 3: an absolute cult classic. That film was called Gettin Square,

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Speaker 3: and his character Johnny Spitte, a goonish small town criminal,

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Speaker 3: is back in his very own spin off, which is

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Speaker 3: simply titled Spit.

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Speaker 2: John Francis Spatieri, who lock him up? This is Australia.

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Speaker 9: It's still a free country, isn't it?

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Speaker 2: Mate? There's used a tragic case, mistaken identity.

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Speaker 10: This is your driver's license.

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Speaker 14: He's got squinty eyes. I don't have squinty eyes.

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Speaker 2: You're under a restaurant. Why are you in jail.

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Speaker 10: I'm going to get out of you.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to look over.

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Speaker 8: Here, and a little one John Francis SCATTERII has been

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Speaker 8: located alive.

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Speaker 2: Disaster.

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Speaker 3: John Francis SPITERII is played by David Wenham and David's

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Speaker 3: with us this morning killed a good morning.

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Speaker 14: Good to be with you, Jack.

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Speaker 3: It's so good to be speaking with you. Now, tell

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Speaker 3: me about your position with all of this. You have

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Speaker 3: worked in massive name Hollywood blockbusters, major franchises. What drew

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Speaker 3: you to Spet?

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Speaker 14: Back to Spit because Speaker was a character that was

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Speaker 14: in a movie twenty three years ago or twenty two

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Speaker 14: years ago called Getting Square. None of us involved in

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Speaker 14: that film ever thought that we'd be revisiting that world again.

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Speaker 14: It was just it started from a conversation about eleven

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Speaker 14: years ago I had with a good friend of mine

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Speaker 14: who's a filmmaker, Robert Connolly, and we were talking about

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Speaker 14: the fact Robert's known me for a long time, the

755
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Speaker 14: fact that one of my strongest suits is comedy and

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Speaker 14: I never get the opportunity to exercise that very often.

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Speaker 14: And he brought up the character of Johnny's Pateria from

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Speaker 14: Getting Square, and I started a riff on a whole

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Speaker 14: heap of scenarios that you could drop Johnny in and

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Speaker 14: then you know, potential hilarity may ensue. And he said,

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Speaker 14: you know there's something in this. There's something in it.

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Speaker 14: So I rang Chris Nice, who wrote Getting Square, and

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Speaker 14: he said, well, your timing is interesting because he'd been

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Speaker 14: working on a film centered around spit with the director

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Speaker 14: Jonathan Taplitsky for some time, and he said, you want

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Speaker 14: me to send it over to I said, yeah, sure,

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Speaker 14: and I read it the very first draft about eleven

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Speaker 14: years ago. Ten eleven years ago, I thought was absolutely inspired.

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Speaker 14: Because none of us wanted to do Getting Square two.

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Speaker 14: There had to be a reason for Spit to come back,

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Speaker 14: and it had to be solid enough that, you know,

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Speaker 14: the audience would be completely engaged for ninety to one

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Speaker 14: hundred minutes, and he nailed it pretty much straight off

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Speaker 14: the bat, and then that obviously the hardest part then

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Speaker 14: was to get the film up and that's another story,

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Speaker 14: but we did and now it's finally reaching the cinema,

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Speaker 14: which is great.

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Speaker 3: So what is it for people who haven't seen Getting Square?

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Speaker 3: What do you think it is about Johnny Spatiri's character

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Speaker 3: that made him such good fodder for a stand alone film.

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Speaker 14: It's funny actually, because he's the most unlikely sort of

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Speaker 14: character in a way. For those who don't know the

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Speaker 14: original film Getting Square, it was a comedy crime caper,

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Speaker 14: and the character of Johnny's Batteria is a really he's

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Speaker 14: an outsider, you know's in Getting Square. He's a junkie.

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Speaker 14: He's a small time criminal with a lot of quirks

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Speaker 14: and idiosyncrasies. Christinized the writers said, you're not sure if

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Speaker 14: he's the dumbest person in the room or the smartest

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Speaker 14: person in the room, which is really quite interesting.

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Speaker 3: Because he's, sorry to interrupt, he's sort of he's sort

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Speaker 3: of he's sort of dumb in some respects, but incredibly

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Speaker 3: cunning as well.

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Speaker 14: Yeah that's right, Yeah, that's right, yeah, street smart. And

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Speaker 14: the other thing about him is, and I think for both,

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Speaker 14: you know, Australians and New Zealanders, we champion the underdog,

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Speaker 14: and he certainly is the underdog. He's as Chris would

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Speaker 14: describe in the ride, he describes me as you know,

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Speaker 14: he's just a little bug trying to do his best.

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Speaker 14: And that character did endear himself to people, and you know,

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Speaker 14: a couple of decades later, I still about every second

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Speaker 14: day I have people coming up to me talking about

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Speaker 14: the character and quoting lines, specific lines.

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Speaker 2: From that film.

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Speaker 14: So and now you know, I've had the opportunity to

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Speaker 14: sit in cinemas during the last three weeks just we've

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Speaker 14: been doing one off screenings with questions and answer sessions

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Speaker 14: and to get here the absolute joy that people get

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Speaker 14: from seeing the return of Johnny's Batteria and people who

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Speaker 14: haven't even seen Johnny embracing this character and giving so much,

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Speaker 14: so much laughter. But with this film as well, it's

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Speaker 14: a good deal of poignancy as well, and people get

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Speaker 14: a little bit more than they than they they think

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Speaker 14: they're going to get in this There's there's added extras

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Speaker 14: in this film which has made it much more rich

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Speaker 14: for the audience.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it takes on some as well as

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Speaker 3: being very funny and very entertaining, it takes on some,

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Speaker 3: you know, some pretty pressing social kind of issues. And

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Speaker 3: even even the scenario in which Spit finds himself you

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Speaker 3: said you needed to have a good reason to bring

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Speaker 3: him back, and I mean it's literally bringing him back

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Speaker 3: to Australia and dumping him an immigration detention center to

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Speaker 3: kick things off. I mean, this is these are these

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Speaker 3: are you know, topical subjects.

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Speaker 14: They are they are you know, it isn't a political film.

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Speaker 14: It is out now the comedy. Having said that, though,

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Speaker 14: basically at the end of the film, it's a film.

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Speaker 14: It's a film full of hope. It's a film that

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Speaker 14: brings people together. It's a film that celebrates the best

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Speaker 14: in humanity. It celebrates community in a really funny way.

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Speaker 14: As you say, yes, does find himself in immigration detention

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Speaker 14: and the characters in those scenes are actually all real

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Speaker 14: refugees or they're offspring refugees. And the one thing that

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Speaker 14: they said, they said, oh my god, they love being

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Speaker 14: in the film so much for the very for the

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Speaker 14: major reason was that it was funny. It was a comedy.

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Speaker 14: They said, for the first time, we get to see ourselves,

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Speaker 14: but in a different way. We're not sort of just

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Speaker 14: painted with a very broad brushstroke at Oh, they're not

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Speaker 14: defined as refugees. They said, Look, we're the same as

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Speaker 14: everybody else. Some of us are really smart, some of

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Speaker 14: us aren't, and some of us are really stupid. And

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Speaker 14: it's a really great opportunity to show people that, you know,

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Speaker 14: we have a full range of characteristics just like everybody else.

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Speaker 14: But they love the fact that it was a comedy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So how does a production like this compere like this?

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Speaker 3: This is a like true Blue Feared Dico Mossie story.

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Speaker 3: How does a production like this compare to some of

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Speaker 3: those massive, big blockbusters that you've worked on. I mean,

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Speaker 3: presumably people are drawn to spit for the story rather

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Speaker 3: than the big bucks.

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Speaker 14: Well, completely, we have there's a number of returning characters

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Speaker 14: to this film. But also what's interesting is the crew

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Speaker 14: and I don't I can't think of any film in

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Speaker 14: this part of the world that this has occurred with before.

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Speaker 14: We have the same writer, we have the same director,

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Speaker 14: we have the same cinematographer, head of design, head of makeup.

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Speaker 14: Like every key creative has come back because they want

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Speaker 14: to be part of this because it's really special. They

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Speaker 14: read the script and go, oh my god, this is

862
00:46:54,493 --> 00:46:58,533
Speaker 14: actually really unique. Tessna Toli, who did my hair and

863
00:46:58,613 --> 00:47:00,893
Speaker 14: makeup on the work with her. A number of times.

864
00:47:01,213 --> 00:47:04,853
Speaker 14: She turned down, as did other crew members, opportunities to

865
00:47:04,893 --> 00:47:07,053
Speaker 14: work on big budget American films, and she would have

866
00:47:07,133 --> 00:47:09,813
Speaker 14: done very well so she could work on this, and

867
00:47:09,893 --> 00:47:13,173
Speaker 14: our dates kept slipping, but didn't worry not, I'm going

868
00:47:13,253 --> 00:47:13,533
Speaker 14: to do it.

869
00:47:13,613 --> 00:47:14,373
Speaker 2: I'm going to do it.

870
00:47:14,653 --> 00:47:17,853
Speaker 14: There was a love and a passion to tell stories

871
00:47:17,893 --> 00:47:19,613
Speaker 14: from our part of the world and the fact that

872
00:47:19,733 --> 00:47:22,013
Speaker 14: they are funny. We have you know, we haven't a

873
00:47:22,173 --> 00:47:26,213
Speaker 14: unique sense of humor down here, and yeah, it does

874
00:47:26,493 --> 00:47:28,933
Speaker 14: unite us. And there's nothing better than sitting in a

875
00:47:29,013 --> 00:47:31,093
Speaker 14: cinema that's full of you know, a whole heap of

876
00:47:31,453 --> 00:47:32,573
Speaker 14: people laughing as one.

877
00:47:33,013 --> 00:47:33,213
Speaker 4: Yeah.

878
00:47:33,573 --> 00:47:35,893
Speaker 3: I don't know what it is. I think, you know,

879
00:47:35,933 --> 00:47:37,973
Speaker 3: I think about I think about some of those Australian

880
00:47:38,733 --> 00:47:42,173
Speaker 3: comedy cult classics from across the years, and there is

881
00:47:42,213 --> 00:47:45,053
Speaker 3: something about the Australian sense of humor, whether it's Kenny

882
00:47:45,693 --> 00:47:50,573
Speaker 3: or whether it's you know, the Kerigan family from the Castle. Yeah,

883
00:47:51,013 --> 00:47:54,773
Speaker 3: there's just something about Australian comedy that I think has

884
00:47:54,973 --> 00:47:57,093
Speaker 3: a certain kind of kind of magic that I mean,

885
00:47:57,133 --> 00:48:00,173
Speaker 3: I know that Kiwi audiences will will absolutely love. But

886
00:48:00,213 --> 00:48:02,173
Speaker 3: it's amazing. So it's a Getting Square was two thousand

887
00:48:02,213 --> 00:48:06,133
Speaker 3: and three, right, and that the environment into which that

888
00:48:06,573 --> 00:48:11,013
Speaker 3: released was profoundly different from the streaming era in which

889
00:48:11,053 --> 00:48:13,173
Speaker 3: we now live. And the thing about Getting Square was

890
00:48:13,213 --> 00:48:15,453
Speaker 3: that it did super well in the sort of VHS

891
00:48:15,613 --> 00:48:17,853
Speaker 3: DVD department, right, So I sort of got a cult

892
00:48:17,973 --> 00:48:21,773
Speaker 3: following through those sales. Do you think we can make

893
00:48:21,973 --> 00:48:25,173
Speaker 3: cult films anymore in this in this modern streaming age.

894
00:48:27,053 --> 00:48:29,453
Speaker 14: Well, those pop films are things that people find over

895
00:48:29,533 --> 00:48:32,773
Speaker 14: time and that's why they become a cult. The thing

896
00:48:32,893 --> 00:48:36,453
Speaker 14: that we're adamant about with this is because of the

897
00:48:36,573 --> 00:48:38,573
Speaker 14: nature of the film as well. We wanted to we

898
00:48:38,973 --> 00:48:42,093
Speaker 14: want it to be successful at the cinema, just that

899
00:48:42,253 --> 00:48:46,013
Speaker 14: thing of being within your community and laughing together and

900
00:48:46,133 --> 00:48:49,493
Speaker 14: sharing it. I cannot tell you how amazing it's been

901
00:48:49,573 --> 00:48:51,893
Speaker 14: in all the screenings I've said in so far, and

902
00:48:52,013 --> 00:48:56,413
Speaker 14: the reaction from audiences afterwards. I'll be honest, I haven't

903
00:48:56,453 --> 00:48:59,933
Speaker 14: actually had that sort of feedback from any other film

904
00:49:00,013 --> 00:49:01,013
Speaker 14: that I've been.

905
00:49:00,933 --> 00:49:01,613
Speaker 2: In and sad in.

906
00:49:02,213 --> 00:49:06,693
Speaker 14: It's really it's really quite unique. It's affecting people on

907
00:49:06,733 --> 00:49:09,973
Speaker 14: a number of different levels. A The laughter is like

908
00:49:10,213 --> 00:49:13,333
Speaker 14: it is, Yeah, it's constant throughout and it gets bigger

909
00:49:13,493 --> 00:49:16,733
Speaker 14: towards the end, but just some of the thematic concerns

910
00:49:16,813 --> 00:49:21,213
Speaker 14: in there as well. It really touches people. And we've

911
00:49:21,293 --> 00:49:25,013
Speaker 14: had people really quite profoundly affected in the fact that

912
00:49:25,573 --> 00:49:28,493
Speaker 14: they find that this is an Australian film that really

913
00:49:28,573 --> 00:49:31,933
Speaker 14: does celebrate all the all the best of what we

914
00:49:32,053 --> 00:49:33,373
Speaker 14: can what we can actually be.

915
00:49:34,333 --> 00:49:39,453
Speaker 3: There must be so rewarding to see that firsthand, especially

916
00:49:39,453 --> 00:49:40,813
Speaker 3: when you don't usually get that opportunity.

917
00:49:41,493 --> 00:49:44,093
Speaker 14: It's I've got to say, it's extraordinary. It's like the

918
00:49:44,213 --> 00:49:47,493
Speaker 14: very first time we screened it. We screened it it

919
00:49:47,813 --> 00:49:49,653
Speaker 14: on the Gold Coast, which I refer to as the

920
00:49:49,733 --> 00:49:53,093
Speaker 14: spiritual homeland of Johnny Spatiri because that's where that's where

921
00:49:53,093 --> 00:49:57,293
Speaker 14: it comes from. And we screened it and afterwards I

922
00:49:57,973 --> 00:50:01,053
Speaker 14: did a question answer session. I talked about the wardrobe,

923
00:50:01,373 --> 00:50:04,413
Speaker 14: the fact that I source my wardrobe from a second

924
00:50:04,493 --> 00:50:08,973
Speaker 14: hand shop in the charity store in London, and I've

925
00:50:08,973 --> 00:50:12,093
Speaker 14: got this T shirt which said this black T shirt

926
00:50:12,173 --> 00:50:14,573
Speaker 14: that had in gold less as Egyptians do it better.

927
00:50:14,693 --> 00:50:17,053
Speaker 14: And as I said that, this woman just stood up

928
00:50:17,053 --> 00:50:20,253
Speaker 14: and said, yes, yes, we do, we do. It was

929
00:50:20,413 --> 00:50:23,333
Speaker 14: the whole audiences tore up and laughter, and then she

930
00:50:23,573 --> 00:50:26,133
Speaker 14: just paused and she said, I'm sorry. I'm just so

931
00:50:26,733 --> 00:50:29,973
Speaker 14: overwhelmed with this movie because finally I actually get to

932
00:50:30,053 --> 00:50:32,933
Speaker 14: see some of my people. We're Australians here, and for

933
00:50:32,973 --> 00:50:35,293
Speaker 14: the first time, I feel part of a community and

934
00:50:35,373 --> 00:50:38,013
Speaker 14: I can see some of my people on the screen.

935
00:50:38,773 --> 00:50:41,213
Speaker 14: And that has been consistent, not that it's you know,

936
00:50:41,813 --> 00:50:44,373
Speaker 14: as I said, there is no politics in the film.

937
00:50:44,733 --> 00:50:47,733
Speaker 14: It's just a comedy that brings people together, and that

938
00:50:48,013 --> 00:50:52,453
Speaker 14: reaction from different parts of the community has been consistent.

939
00:50:52,973 --> 00:50:55,693
Speaker 14: Speak and then going to tell a story about the

940
00:50:55,773 --> 00:50:57,933
Speaker 14: fact that which people quite enjoy.

941
00:50:57,973 --> 00:50:58,293
Speaker 4: Actually.

942
00:50:58,413 --> 00:51:00,413
Speaker 14: I also bought a pair of jeans over there that

943
00:51:00,493 --> 00:51:03,213
Speaker 14: will look really really really really small, and I thought,

944
00:51:03,213 --> 00:51:05,053
Speaker 14: there's no way I'm going to get into those, but

945
00:51:05,173 --> 00:51:07,293
Speaker 14: the lady who was working the shop wasn't looking. So

946
00:51:07,333 --> 00:51:09,613
Speaker 14: I pulled down my dacks and tried to get into

947
00:51:09,693 --> 00:51:12,533
Speaker 14: these women's jeans, and I got into them and they

948
00:51:12,613 --> 00:51:14,493
Speaker 14: fit me perfectly, and I thought, oh my god, yes,

949
00:51:14,573 --> 00:51:16,773
Speaker 14: these are Johnny's bati's jeans. That looks as though they'd

950
00:51:16,933 --> 00:51:19,093
Speaker 14: been painted on t him. So I went up to

951
00:51:19,133 --> 00:51:20,893
Speaker 14: the counter and I put them down, and the lady

952
00:51:21,053 --> 00:51:24,333
Speaker 14: just paused, and she didn't say anything for quite some time,

953
00:51:24,933 --> 00:51:28,613
Speaker 14: and then finally she just looked up at me, sheepishly,

954
00:51:28,613 --> 00:51:32,053
Speaker 14: and she said, you do know their maternity jeans, don't you.

955
00:51:34,293 --> 00:51:34,333
Speaker 15: Do?

956
00:51:34,373 --> 00:51:37,133
Speaker 3: You know that was what's quisten for you? Was going

957
00:51:37,213 --> 00:51:39,813
Speaker 3: to be How on earth did you get into those genes?

958
00:51:39,853 --> 00:51:41,693
Speaker 3: I wonder if the costume department had had to sow

959
00:51:41,773 --> 00:51:43,093
Speaker 3: them on while you were standing out.

960
00:51:43,253 --> 00:51:45,413
Speaker 14: Now, you know, there's certainly a lot of GIF in

961
00:51:45,493 --> 00:51:48,053
Speaker 14: those genes, especially around the belly ridge.

962
00:51:48,773 --> 00:51:50,693
Speaker 3: I'm glad. I thought you might be having some sort

963
00:51:50,693 --> 00:51:52,573
Speaker 3: of a medical event trying to get yourself into those.

964
00:51:53,413 --> 00:51:56,093
Speaker 14: Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, very difficult otherwise, Yes, I bought

965
00:51:56,133 --> 00:51:58,613
Speaker 14: those a year before we did the film, and yeah, yeah,

966
00:51:58,693 --> 00:52:01,453
Speaker 14: kept them. And because a year before the film, Jonathan Poplitski,

967
00:52:01,533 --> 00:52:04,053
Speaker 14: the director, lives in London, and we thought that we

968
00:52:04,413 --> 00:52:08,333
Speaker 14: just workshops bateria a little bit, so We put him

969
00:52:08,333 --> 00:52:11,413
Speaker 14: in the streets of London for one day and Jonathan

970
00:52:11,533 --> 00:52:15,893
Speaker 14: just ran after Spateri with an iPhone just capturing footage.

971
00:52:15,933 --> 00:52:17,813
Speaker 14: It's not in the film, and you know, one day

972
00:52:17,853 --> 00:52:19,653
Speaker 14: we might release some of it online, but it was.

973
00:52:20,133 --> 00:52:23,973
Speaker 14: It was so brilliant because I hadn't were worn as

974
00:52:24,013 --> 00:52:26,173
Speaker 14: we call them thongs and as you call them jandles,

975
00:52:26,573 --> 00:52:29,973
Speaker 14: I hadn't worn them in twenty two years. But as

976
00:52:30,053 --> 00:52:32,733
Speaker 14: soon as I put them back on, the character came

977
00:52:32,813 --> 00:52:36,653
Speaker 14: back pretty much instantly, and I felt the way that

978
00:52:36,733 --> 00:52:39,293
Speaker 14: Johnny walks and he moves, and his rhythms and his

979
00:52:39,493 --> 00:52:42,933
Speaker 14: paces and the way he spoke, and it was it

980
00:52:43,093 --> 00:52:47,133
Speaker 14: was such a creative joy to just rip him London

981
00:52:47,253 --> 00:52:50,333
Speaker 14: for one day, going riding on the tube with no

982
00:52:50,533 --> 00:52:54,133
Speaker 14: ticket and then busking with with people and going towards

983
00:52:55,933 --> 00:52:58,213
Speaker 14: Scotland Yard. And then we got kicked out of the

984
00:52:58,253 --> 00:52:58,973
Speaker 14: portrait gallery.

985
00:52:59,573 --> 00:53:02,173
Speaker 3: Rather why did get kicked out for filming?

986
00:53:02,293 --> 00:53:05,853
Speaker 14: Or Jonathan was filming. Spateria was looking at a rather

987
00:53:05,973 --> 00:53:08,493
Speaker 14: big portrait of the queen and.

988
00:53:08,573 --> 00:53:11,533
Speaker 2: Oh god, yeah, looking at that whatever.

989
00:53:11,613 --> 00:53:14,133
Speaker 14: And there was a lady with who had like a

990
00:53:14,253 --> 00:53:17,533
Speaker 14: large tour group of French lady and for some strange reasons.

991
00:53:17,573 --> 00:53:20,653
Speaker 14: She thought Jonathan was filming them, and Jonathan was saying,

992
00:53:20,813 --> 00:53:22,453
Speaker 14: I don't know why i'd be interested in have a

993
00:53:22,493 --> 00:53:24,893
Speaker 14: look at that guy there in front of the Queen,

994
00:53:24,933 --> 00:53:28,853
Speaker 14: and that's who I'm filming, but she didn't quite believe.

995
00:53:28,653 --> 00:53:30,853
Speaker 4: It, so you, yeah, leave.

996
00:53:31,733 --> 00:53:34,413
Speaker 3: I'm so glad you have gone to you know, to

997
00:53:34,533 --> 00:53:37,573
Speaker 3: such not extreme, but you know you you you have

998
00:53:37,693 --> 00:53:39,973
Speaker 3: gone to great lengths to bring this character back, and

999
00:53:40,053 --> 00:53:43,853
Speaker 3: I'm so glad you have because Spit is so much fun.

1000
00:53:44,053 --> 00:53:47,373
Speaker 3: He is an amazing character. It's a wonderful moving story,

1001
00:53:47,413 --> 00:53:50,253
Speaker 3: as you say, And David, congratulations to you and the team.

1002
00:53:50,333 --> 00:53:54,413
Speaker 14: It really is brilliant, fabulous and has been great chatting

1003
00:53:54,413 --> 00:53:54,573
Speaker 14: with you.

1004
00:53:54,653 --> 00:53:57,093
Speaker 3: Jack, thank you so much, really appreciate your time. You

1005
00:53:57,173 --> 00:53:58,013
Speaker 3: take care and all that.

1006
00:53:59,013 --> 00:54:00,853
Speaker 14: Thanks mate, terrific cheerio.

1007
00:54:01,413 --> 00:54:04,413
Speaker 3: That is David Wynham. He is the star of Spit

1008
00:54:04,533 --> 00:54:06,213
Speaker 3: and all the details are going to be on the news.

1009
00:54:06,613 --> 00:54:10,053
Speaker 3: He'd be website before eleven o'clock this morning. Some really

1010
00:54:10,213 --> 00:54:14,573
Speaker 3: useful practical tips on teaching kids about money. Our personal

1011
00:54:14,653 --> 00:54:18,333
Speaker 3: finance expert has been debating with themselves whether or not

1012
00:54:18,493 --> 00:54:21,653
Speaker 3: it is a good idea to give kids cash. Some

1013
00:54:21,773 --> 00:54:23,533
Speaker 3: of the upsides are giving them cash and some of

1014
00:54:23,573 --> 00:54:25,293
Speaker 3: the things you might want to keep in mind, and

1015
00:54:25,413 --> 00:54:28,653
Speaker 3: also some really simple kind of parenting hacks that might

1016
00:54:28,773 --> 00:54:31,213
Speaker 3: help to develop really good habits when it comes to

1017
00:54:31,253 --> 00:54:33,213
Speaker 3: your kids and money. So we'll share those with you

1018
00:54:33,373 --> 00:54:35,853
Speaker 3: very shortly. Next up, though, your screen time picks for

1019
00:54:35,973 --> 00:54:38,373
Speaker 3: this weekend. Right now, it's twenty two minutes past ten

1020
00:54:38,453 --> 00:54:39,533
Speaker 3: on us talks heedb.

1021
00:54:41,093 --> 00:54:44,533
Speaker 1: Start your weekend off in style Saturday Mornings with Jack

1022
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Speaker 1: Tain and bp it dot code ont inst for high

1023
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Speaker 1: quality supplements use talks edb.

1024
00:54:49,853 --> 00:54:52,093
Speaker 3: Oh Ben has just looked me at text to say, Jack,

1025
00:54:52,173 --> 00:54:54,133
Speaker 3: take your kids shopping and let them help with the

1026
00:54:54,173 --> 00:54:56,093
Speaker 3: grocery list and budget. It's the only way they're going

1027
00:54:56,133 --> 00:54:58,213
Speaker 3: to learn. That's a very good piece of advice, actually been.

1028
00:54:58,253 --> 00:55:00,093
Speaker 3: We're going to catch up with our personal finance expert

1029
00:55:00,133 --> 00:55:03,013
Speaker 3: before eleven with her tips on helping your kids get

1030
00:55:03,053 --> 00:55:05,773
Speaker 3: a grip and good relationship with money. Right now, though

1031
00:55:05,773 --> 00:55:08,533
Speaker 3: it's twenty five minutes past ten, which means it's screen

1032
00:55:08,853 --> 00:55:12,373
Speaker 3: time time on news Dog z'db in. Our screen time expert,

1033
00:55:12,493 --> 00:55:15,733
Speaker 3: Tara Award is here with her three picks for this weekend.

1034
00:55:15,933 --> 00:55:19,173
Speaker 3: More than a Tara Modena Jack. Okay, let's begin with

1035
00:55:19,253 --> 00:55:22,493
Speaker 3: a new show streaming on Netflix based on a true story.

1036
00:55:22,573 --> 00:55:24,093
Speaker 3: Tell us about Toxic Town.

1037
00:55:25,173 --> 00:55:27,733
Speaker 16: Yeah, if you watched mister Bates in the Post Office

1038
00:55:27,813 --> 00:55:31,013
Speaker 16: last year and were outraged at that story about how

1039
00:55:31,293 --> 00:55:34,013
Speaker 16: ordinary people were caught up in this shocking scandal, on

1040
00:55:34,093 --> 00:55:37,173
Speaker 16: how they took the government, took the government on to

1041
00:55:37,213 --> 00:55:39,853
Speaker 16: get justice, then Toxic Town is a new show in

1042
00:55:39,933 --> 00:55:43,493
Speaker 16: a very similar kind of vein. It's shocking and heartbreaking,

1043
00:55:43,613 --> 00:55:46,933
Speaker 16: and it's a story about ordinary people fighting back. It's

1044
00:55:46,973 --> 00:55:49,693
Speaker 16: set in the nineteen nineties in the English town of Corby,

1045
00:55:49,853 --> 00:55:53,373
Speaker 16: where some old steel works were being redeveloped and the

1046
00:55:53,453 --> 00:55:57,653
Speaker 16: ground was contaminated. And as they redeveloped the site, the

1047
00:55:57,733 --> 00:56:00,093
Speaker 16: practices were pretty sloppy and it was a bit of

1048
00:56:00,133 --> 00:56:01,893
Speaker 16: a rush job to try and get the town back

1049
00:56:01,973 --> 00:56:05,013
Speaker 16: on its feet, and the toxic waste ended up getting

1050
00:56:05,053 --> 00:56:08,053
Speaker 16: into the community. And around the same time, babies in

1051
00:56:08,093 --> 00:56:11,413
Speaker 16: the town were being born with physical disabilities, and the

1052
00:56:11,533 --> 00:56:13,813
Speaker 16: mothers of those babies made the connection. Some of them

1053
00:56:13,853 --> 00:56:16,693
Speaker 16: worked at the steelwork site, some of them had partners

1054
00:56:16,693 --> 00:56:20,253
Speaker 16: who worked there, some lived nearby. They realized what was

1055
00:56:20,293 --> 00:56:22,573
Speaker 16: going on and took on the council to prove that

1056
00:56:22,733 --> 00:56:25,653
Speaker 16: there was negligence there and to prove that the officials

1057
00:56:25,733 --> 00:56:28,973
Speaker 16: knew the soil was contaminated and that there had been

1058
00:56:28,973 --> 00:56:32,053
Speaker 16: a cover up. Jodi Whittaker stars in this and she's

1059
00:56:32,173 --> 00:56:34,733
Speaker 16: just fantastic. She plays one of the mothers who leads

1060
00:56:34,773 --> 00:56:37,973
Speaker 16: this campaign, Robert Carlyle's and this as well Amy lou

1061
00:56:38,013 --> 00:56:41,573
Speaker 16: Wood just such a really strong British cast and the

1062
00:56:41,653 --> 00:56:45,213
Speaker 16: storytelling is really compelling. It's quite a complex story, but

1063
00:56:45,293 --> 00:56:48,013
Speaker 16: they've told it in a very heartfelt, relatable way, one

1064
00:56:48,053 --> 00:56:52,093
Speaker 16: that captures you right from the very opening scene. Really

1065
00:56:52,133 --> 00:56:56,733
Speaker 16: strong performances in this, and such a shocking story, you

1066
00:56:56,813 --> 00:56:58,213
Speaker 16: know you kind of can't look away from it, but

1067
00:56:58,493 --> 00:57:01,213
Speaker 16: pet your tissues handy because it is quite emotional as well.

1068
00:57:01,333 --> 00:57:04,213
Speaker 3: Okay, cool, Yeah, sounds amazing. So that's Toxic Town. That's

1069
00:57:04,253 --> 00:57:07,293
Speaker 3: on Netflix, also on Netflix US. About the mission.

1070
00:57:08,613 --> 00:57:11,533
Speaker 16: This is a new Australian true crime documentary series and

1071
00:57:12,213 --> 00:57:13,933
Speaker 16: it's one of those crimes that just makes for the

1072
00:57:14,013 --> 00:57:17,933
Speaker 16: perfect true crime documentary. It's bizarre when you first look

1073
00:57:17,973 --> 00:57:19,933
Speaker 16: at it, and then it just gets weirder and weirder

1074
00:57:20,133 --> 00:57:22,333
Speaker 16: the more you drill down into it. This is about

1075
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Speaker 16: an art heist that took place in the nineteen eighties

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Speaker 16: and the Western Australian Outback, when two guys turned up

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Speaker 16: at a Spanish monastery in the middle of nowhere and

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Speaker 16: stole twenty six artworks valued to be worth millions of dollars.

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Speaker 16: The thieves were real amateurs. They hired a getaway car

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00:57:39,733 --> 00:57:42,093
Speaker 16: and they chose a gold Ford Falcon, which is not

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00:57:42,173 --> 00:57:46,213
Speaker 16: the most inconspicuous car debian when you're committing a crime.

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00:57:46,333 --> 00:57:49,773
Speaker 16: So the police were onto them pretty quickly and they

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00:57:50,093 --> 00:57:53,853
Speaker 16: end up sort of unraveling this very strange crime, one

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Speaker 16: that raised a lot of questions like what were all

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Speaker 16: these valuable European masterpieces doing in a monastery in the

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Speaker 16: Australian bush and who was actually pulling all the strings

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Speaker 16: behind this crime. So the documentary to talk to the

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Speaker 16: people involved in the case, the detectives who who were

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Speaker 16: investigating it, the journalists who were covering it. There's so

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Speaker 16: many colorful characters in this. It's in a really intriguing

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00:58:17,013 --> 00:58:20,333
Speaker 16: story and they've told it in a very watchable, dramatized way.

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Speaker 16: There's lots of twists and turns. But I think partly

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00:58:23,773 --> 00:58:26,213
Speaker 16: because it was a crime done so badly that these

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Speaker 16: were such bad criminals. That's what makes it such a

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Speaker 16: fascinating one.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Great, Okay, this sounds really interesting. That's the mission. So

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Speaker 3: that's also on Netflix. And last, but not least, streaming

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00:58:34,973 --> 00:58:37,733
Speaker 3: on Netflix. You guessed it, Running Point.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 16: This is a new sports comedy created by Mindy Kayling.

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00:58:42,653 --> 00:58:46,253
Speaker 16: It stars Kate Hudson and Justin Thurreau, and it's a

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00:58:46,293 --> 00:58:50,413
Speaker 16: bit like a cross between ted Lasso and Succession. Kate

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00:58:50,493 --> 00:58:55,253
Speaker 16: Hudson plays this reformed party girl who is unexpectedly put

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00:58:55,333 --> 00:58:58,573
Speaker 16: in charge of her family's Los Angeles basketball team and

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00:58:59,293 --> 00:59:03,053
Speaker 16: has to suddenly prove herself as this strong and capable

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00:59:03,133 --> 00:59:06,053
Speaker 16: business woman and prove all the doubters wrong, from the

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00:59:06,133 --> 00:59:09,053
Speaker 16: tea themselves, to the public, to her brothers who are

1109
00:59:10,093 --> 00:59:12,613
Speaker 16: angling for the job themselves and really want.

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Speaker 10: Her to fail.

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00:59:13,773 --> 00:59:18,013
Speaker 16: It's that classic fish out of water situation. Didn't feel

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00:59:18,253 --> 00:59:21,693
Speaker 16: entirely new or original, and it doesn't have that same

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00:59:21,813 --> 00:59:23,973
Speaker 16: kind of charm as ted Lasso, but I think that's

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00:59:24,013 --> 00:59:26,813
Speaker 16: the vibe they're going for. It is still light and

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00:59:26,973 --> 00:59:29,253
Speaker 16: easy to watch and does get better as it goes on.

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00:59:30,253 --> 00:59:32,093
Speaker 16: It's one of those comedies that you can just kind

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00:59:32,093 --> 00:59:34,093
Speaker 16: of put on have a lazy weekend on the couch,

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Speaker 16: put on relax into and not have to think too

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00:59:36,813 --> 00:59:37,653
Speaker 16: hard about nice.

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Speaker 3: Okay, cool. That's Running Points, so that's on Netflix as well.

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Speaker 3: Those shows once again, Toxic Town, The Mission, and Running Point.

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00:59:44,373 --> 00:59:46,173
Speaker 3: All of those will be up on the News Talks

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Speaker 3: He'd Be website. It has just gone ten thirty.

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Speaker 1: Getting your weekends started. It's Saturday morning with Jack Team

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Speaker 1: on News Talks edb.

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Speaker 3: This is what got into you. It's by Foley. They've

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Speaker 3: got an album called That's Life Baby. That's the new

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01:00:18,933 --> 01:00:21,573
Speaker 3: album from the kiwi duo based in Australia these days.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, this is cool, a kind of jazzy I'll

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Speaker 3: beat yeah fun. Anyway, We'll make sure that we carve

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01:00:28,453 --> 01:00:30,493
Speaker 3: out a little bit of time so that we can

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Speaker 3: listen to to Folly's new album That's Life Baby after

1133
01:00:35,573 --> 01:00:38,813
Speaker 3: eleven o'clock today as well as that our travel correspondent

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01:00:38,933 --> 01:00:41,133
Speaker 3: is taking us too well a part of the country

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01:00:41,173 --> 01:00:44,773
Speaker 3: that maybe doesn't get quite as much attention and tourism

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01:00:44,933 --> 01:00:49,013
Speaker 3: as it deserves, the forgotten world. And that's like you're

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01:00:49,053 --> 01:00:51,613
Speaker 3: kind in the king Country in the North Island. Anyway,

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01:00:51,653 --> 01:00:53,973
Speaker 3: there's this amazing adventure you can go on where you

1139
01:00:54,093 --> 01:00:57,933
Speaker 3: ride the rails of the Forgotten World on a special vehicle.

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Speaker 3: I'm not going to give you any more information than that,

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01:01:00,533 --> 01:01:02,333
Speaker 3: other than to say it sounds like a whole lot

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Speaker 3: of me. So he's gonna be with us after eleven

1143
01:01:04,453 --> 01:01:08,253
Speaker 3: o'clock to share his tips on traveling through the Forgotten

1144
01:01:08,293 --> 01:01:10,853
Speaker 3: World and riding the rails through the king Country this morning.

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Speaker 3: Next up, we'll catch up with our Textbert ask why

1146
01:01:14,173 --> 01:01:16,813
Speaker 3: Katie Perry, of all people is headed to space? Right now?

1147
01:01:16,893 --> 01:01:19,653
Speaker 3: It's twenty five to eleven, putting the.

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01:01:19,733 --> 01:01:23,493
Speaker 2: Tough question to the newspeakers, the mic asking breakfast.

1149
01:01:23,173 --> 01:01:25,733
Speaker 17: The power business heading to another winter, price increases in

1150
01:01:25,733 --> 01:01:28,773
Speaker 17: coal inflirtation. Energy Minister Simon Watson's with us, How worried

1151
01:01:28,773 --> 01:01:29,653
Speaker 17: about winter are you?

1152
01:01:29,853 --> 01:01:32,453
Speaker 18: I am worried, Mike. Situation is pretty acute. I think

1153
01:01:32,533 --> 01:01:34,613
Speaker 18: most people know it's pretty dry out there at the moment.

1154
01:01:34,733 --> 01:01:36,453
Speaker 18: Like levels are lower than what they were at this

1155
01:01:36,573 --> 01:01:39,373
Speaker 18: time last year. We still haven't got guest supply. That

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Speaker 18: means that it's going to be a tight winter.

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Speaker 17: Did you say what you see because you needed to

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01:01:43,613 --> 01:01:45,853
Speaker 17: say it or just fill some headlines? In other words,

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01:01:45,893 --> 01:01:48,013
Speaker 17: are they scurlous and are now going to have to

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01:01:48,053 --> 01:01:50,493
Speaker 17: tidy their ACKed up? Or were they decent players anyway?

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Speaker 18: Now, look, Mike, the circumstances are changed. We need some

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01:01:53,133 --> 01:01:56,093
Speaker 18: action and we need to see everyone playing their part.

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Speaker 18: We need more generation, but we also need a competitive market.

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Speaker 17: Back Monday from six am, the mic Asking Breakfast at

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Speaker 17: the Rain drove of the last News Talk ZB.

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Speaker 3: Twenty three to eleven on News Talk ZB. Skype is

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Speaker 3: being shut down. It seems amazing really, given like I

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01:02:12,013 --> 01:02:14,053
Speaker 3: was saying earlier, Skype's kind of a verb as well

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Speaker 3: as a noun. You know, when you're video calling people,

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Speaker 3: you skype them. Well, not anymore. Our Textbert Paul Stenhouse

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Speaker 3: is here with the details. What's happening, Paul, Yeah, I.

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Speaker 19: Think Zoom might have taken over that name unfortunately, which

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Speaker 19: Microsoft probably isn't too happy about because they own Skype

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Speaker 19: and they bought it jack fourteen years ago. Twenty eleven.

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Speaker 19: It was eight point five billion dollars, which probably twenty eleven.

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Speaker 3: Was quite the sum of h wasn't that Yeah, But

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Speaker 3: it sort of came.

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Speaker 19: It was a little shocking to see the headline I

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Speaker 19: will have mixed. It's like it feels like it's been

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Speaker 19: a bit of a name, you know, a namestay of

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Speaker 19: the technology world. Ye, obviously people aren't using it, maybe

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Speaker 19: quite as much as they're used to, but it really

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01:02:56,293 --> 01:03:00,493
Speaker 19: was the original video calling app. And so Microsoft said

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Speaker 19: May five shutting it down, that it gives us what

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01:03:04,173 --> 01:03:08,533
Speaker 19: sixty odd days I think it was. They have been good, though,

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Speaker 19: I will see this right. Instead of just pulling the pin,

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Speaker 19: they've actually created some tooling to let people either port

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Speaker 19: their Skype account over to a free version of Microsoft Teams,

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Speaker 19: which is basically their play for the future, or they're

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Speaker 19: actually letting people so export it out. And I kind

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01:03:24,213 --> 01:03:26,973
Speaker 19: of like that they've made the choice, given people the choice,

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Speaker 19: and made the options quite clear, rather than some technology

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Speaker 19: companies don't do that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so what does explorting it out mean?

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Speaker 19: So you'll be able to take your contacts and your

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Speaker 19: type of your chats and things like that and take

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Speaker 19: it somewhere else. But Microsoft, this is kind of a

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Speaker 19: good thing for Microsoft because they have Teams, Skype and

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Speaker 19: also this old thing called Link and they all basically

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Speaker 19: do exactly the same thing. They're all like chat and video,

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Speaker 19: and so it's good that done.

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Speaker 3: Now you're kind of consolidating.

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Speaker 19: They're consolidating, right, and just makes things easier for people.

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Speaker 19: You know, So is he a Skype is you No,

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Speaker 19: it's just going to be teams. Yeah, And so if

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Speaker 19: you do, if you do have a Skype account, there

1207
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Speaker 19: is one thing you need to know though, and this

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01:04:04,413 --> 01:04:06,013
Speaker 19: is the thing to think that got thing that got

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Speaker 19: people onto Skype was that you could use it to

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Speaker 19: make very cheap overseas.

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Speaker 3: Calls back yesterday. Yeah.

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Speaker 19: Now that feature won't be being ported over to teams,

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Speaker 19: not the free not the free version anyway, so that

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Speaker 19: part of it will disappear. But otherwise you've still got

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Speaker 19: your video calling and your chat and your group chats

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Speaker 19: and all that kind of thing.

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Speaker 3: It is a shame to lose that. Although the sense

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Speaker 3: I get is that pretty much everywhere now people are

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01:04:28,453 --> 01:04:31,973
Speaker 3: kind of moving towards WhatsApp anyway. You know that WhatsApp

1220
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Speaker 3: is kind of the international calling equivalent, isn't it? So

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Speaker 3: I suppose it's not the end.

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Speaker 4: Of the world.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, interesting though, amazing just how kind of fortunes change.

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Speaker 3: Tell us why is Katie Perry of all people going

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Speaker 3: to space?

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Speaker 19: Well, it's about who you know, isn't it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 19: Exactly, so she she so, okay, So blue origin is

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Speaker 19: Jeff Bezos, founder of Amazon's rocket company. His fiance is

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Speaker 19: Lauren Sanchez. Okay, right, So Lauren decided that she was

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01:05:04,813 --> 01:05:08,133
Speaker 19: going to take an all gaal pale kind of trip

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Speaker 19: to space. So she said to Katy Perry, want to come?

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Speaker 3: M hm okay.

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Speaker 19: She's also taking along. There's a newscaster over here on

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Speaker 19: Sibbi's called Gail King, who I think is famously known

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Speaker 19: as Oprah's best friend. She's going to a research scientist,

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Speaker 19: a film producer, and a former NASA rocket scientist. They're

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Speaker 19: all going to be going with Jeff Bezos's fiance. Laurence

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01:05:32,813 --> 01:05:36,613
Speaker 19: sends she is up in a space because when your

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Speaker 19: husband owns a rocket company, you just take it for

1241
01:05:38,973 --> 01:05:40,853
Speaker 19: a spin. You take the rocket for a spin. Don't

1242
01:05:40,853 --> 01:05:43,213
Speaker 19: you take some friends go for a spin to.

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Speaker 3: Space as you do?

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Speaker 9: All right?

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01:05:46,413 --> 01:05:46,653
Speaker 10: Fun?

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01:05:46,893 --> 01:05:50,333
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, yeah, nice? Some I'm not yeah. I think

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Speaker 3: I'd probably be excited about a couple of those passengers,

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Speaker 3: a couple of others. I'm not too sure. I suppose

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Speaker 3: it's a pretty quick trip.

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Speaker 4: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: Paul.

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Speaker 3: Paul Stenhouse, our texpert there before eleven o'clock we're in

1253
01:06:01,213 --> 01:06:03,533
Speaker 3: the garden with the first and last call for Veggie's

1254
01:06:03,533 --> 01:06:05,173
Speaker 3: the things you need to get in the ground right

1255
01:06:05,253 --> 01:06:08,253
Speaker 3: now to get prepared for all autumn and winter. Next up, though,

1256
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Speaker 3: our personal finance expert is in with her tips on

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Speaker 3: giving cash to kids.

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Speaker 2: A little bit of way to kick off your weekend.

1259
01:06:15,213 --> 01:06:16,133
Speaker 2: Then with Jack.

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Speaker 1: Saturday Mornings with Jack Day and bepwured on codet enz

1261
01:06:20,013 --> 01:06:22,253
Speaker 1: for high quality supplements use talk.

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Speaker 3: ZB seventeen to eleven. Lisa Dudson is our personal finance experts.

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Speaker 3: She's with us this morning.

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Speaker 20: Gilder Morning Jack.

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Speaker 3: Well, our we man is only less than two weeks old,

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01:06:31,973 --> 01:06:34,293
Speaker 3: so this isn't a huge issue for him just yet.

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Speaker 3: But this morning we're talking about giving cash to kids.

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Speaker 3: Is cash a good gift for children?

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Speaker 11: Look, I think it is if you attach a bit

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Speaker 11: of a lesson with it.

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Speaker 20: I mean research shows you know, this is with adults

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Speaker 20: that if we spend cash.

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Speaker 11: We generally spend about twenty percent lesson if we put

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Speaker 11: it on plastic.

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Speaker 20: Right yeah, you on today's World Tap, So I think

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Speaker 20: you know cash is quite good because here's some substance

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Speaker 20: to it, right yeah. And so then I think if

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01:07:02,493 --> 01:07:04,973
Speaker 20: you're going to do that then use the opportunity to

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Speaker 20: attack some learnings to from quite a young age. Yeah,

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Speaker 20: Otherwise kids grow up loarning that money comes out of

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Speaker 20: a machine in the wall.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 4: Do you know.

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Speaker 3: I can't remember as a kid going and seeing my

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Speaker 3: granddad and he went to an ATM. I would have

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01:07:17,013 --> 01:07:18,653
Speaker 3: been about seven or eight years old, and he went

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Speaker 3: to an ATM to get some cash out, and I

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Speaker 3: remember he got it out and I said how much

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01:07:22,413 --> 01:07:23,853
Speaker 3: money did you get out? And he said I got

1290
01:07:23,893 --> 01:07:26,333
Speaker 3: out fifty dollars or whatever. And I said, why didn't

1291
01:07:26,333 --> 01:07:29,093
Speaker 3: you just get out ten thousand dollars? And he said, well, no,

1292
01:07:29,373 --> 01:07:30,733
Speaker 3: I know that's not how it works. And I said,

1293
01:07:30,813 --> 01:07:32,853
Speaker 3: but I said, no, god on, just just get it out,

1294
01:07:32,973 --> 01:07:35,053
Speaker 3: just get it out. And I literally thought that the

1295
01:07:35,133 --> 01:07:38,733
Speaker 3: cash was free, you know, I couldn't. I couldn't compute

1296
01:07:38,773 --> 01:07:40,973
Speaker 3: that actually that was his bank account that he was

1297
01:07:41,013 --> 01:07:43,893
Speaker 3: withdrawing from. And so I suppose the benefit of cash

1298
01:07:44,013 --> 01:07:47,213
Speaker 3: is that it's a as a concept, it's often easier

1299
01:07:47,253 --> 01:07:48,573
Speaker 3: for children to understand, right.

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01:07:48,973 --> 01:07:50,853
Speaker 20: Yes, I think so, yeah, yeah, And I think it

1301
01:07:50,893 --> 01:07:52,773
Speaker 20: needs to be age appropriate too, you know. I guess

1302
01:07:52,813 --> 01:07:55,173
Speaker 20: as they get a little bit older, you know, and

1303
01:07:55,253 --> 01:07:56,853
Speaker 20: I don't really know what that age might be. It

1304
01:07:56,933 --> 01:07:58,333
Speaker 20: might even be as young as five or six.

1305
01:07:58,533 --> 01:08:00,453
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, he's probably dependent on the kid.

1306
01:08:00,653 --> 01:08:02,693
Speaker 20: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's right. But I think it's

1307
01:08:02,693 --> 01:08:05,693
Speaker 20: a wonderful thing to teach kids money from an early age.

1308
01:08:05,773 --> 01:08:08,853
Speaker 20: For I tell you, as a parent who goes, I

1309
01:08:09,013 --> 01:08:10,533
Speaker 20: just want to make my life easy by giving them

1310
01:08:10,533 --> 01:08:12,893
Speaker 20: what they want. Be hereul what you wish for, because

1311
01:08:12,933 --> 01:08:15,773
Speaker 20: down the track you'll probably say the other side of that. Right, Yeah,

1312
01:08:15,853 --> 01:08:17,853
Speaker 20: there's a lot of benefits for putting a little bit

1313
01:08:17,893 --> 01:08:20,573
Speaker 20: of pain, into a little bit of effort into teaching

1314
01:08:20,653 --> 01:08:21,373
Speaker 20: them at a young age.

1315
01:08:21,453 --> 01:08:23,293
Speaker 3: So what do you think are the lessons that we

1316
01:08:23,373 --> 01:08:25,893
Speaker 3: can try and impart in those early stages.

1317
01:08:26,293 --> 01:08:28,693
Speaker 11: Yes, I think it's some budgeting basics is quite a

1318
01:08:28,693 --> 01:08:28,973
Speaker 11: good one.

1319
01:08:29,613 --> 01:08:32,293
Speaker 20: I really like the idea of the spend saved give

1320
01:08:33,413 --> 01:08:35,093
Speaker 20: system that a lot of people talk about. You know,

1321
01:08:35,213 --> 01:08:38,333
Speaker 20: it might be you know forty thirty, you know thirty,

1322
01:08:38,453 --> 01:08:41,173
Speaker 20: or you know, whatever you decided it is. So therefore,

1323
01:08:41,213 --> 01:08:43,213
Speaker 20: you know, when they get some money, then they've got

1324
01:08:43,253 --> 01:08:44,533
Speaker 20: a certain amount that they can go and do what

1325
01:08:44,613 --> 01:08:46,493
Speaker 20: they want with a certain amount that they've got to

1326
01:08:46,533 --> 01:08:49,773
Speaker 20: save for something you know, a bit bigger and something

1327
01:08:49,813 --> 01:08:52,173
Speaker 20: that they put aside to help you know, others in society.

1328
01:08:52,333 --> 01:08:56,533
Speaker 20: So you know, it teaches budgeting, saving, delay, get gratification, generosity,

1329
01:08:56,893 --> 01:08:57,733
Speaker 20: wonderful lessons.

1330
01:08:58,333 --> 01:09:00,813
Speaker 3: That's what my sister does with her kids, the spind save,

1331
01:09:00,893 --> 01:09:02,653
Speaker 3: give and keeps them in different jars, so I think

1332
01:09:02,693 --> 01:09:04,813
Speaker 3: you know, say they get a dollar of reach or something,

1333
01:09:05,213 --> 01:09:09,293
Speaker 3: then yeah, it kind of teaches them some values around

1334
01:09:09,333 --> 01:09:11,253
Speaker 3: thinking about their community and that kind of thing, as

1335
01:09:11,293 --> 01:09:13,653
Speaker 3: well as the benefits of saving for a while. And

1336
01:09:13,773 --> 01:09:16,013
Speaker 3: it also gives them an opportunity to go and recount

1337
01:09:16,293 --> 01:09:18,813
Speaker 3: every jar from time to time, as they tend to do.

1338
01:09:19,253 --> 01:09:23,173
Speaker 20: Yeah, because that that visual experience is I think wonderful.

1339
01:09:23,293 --> 01:09:26,693
Speaker 20: Right when you get that visualness, I think you's it's

1340
01:09:26,773 --> 01:09:28,973
Speaker 20: more tangible and I think you learn better from it.

1341
01:09:29,213 --> 01:09:29,373
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1342
01:09:29,493 --> 01:09:32,613
Speaker 20: The thing is to encharacter some gold setting. So sort

1343
01:09:32,613 --> 01:09:34,493
Speaker 20: of actually sitting down and going okay, well what do

1344
01:09:34,613 --> 01:09:35,933
Speaker 20: you want to spend your money on?

1345
01:09:36,333 --> 01:09:38,853
Speaker 11: And going okay, well you know what is it that

1346
01:09:38,933 --> 01:09:40,253
Speaker 11: you want? How much have you got?

1347
01:09:40,373 --> 01:09:42,613
Speaker 20: How many weeks do you need to be you know,

1348
01:09:42,893 --> 01:09:45,813
Speaker 20: saving money for before you you can actually buy that

1349
01:09:45,893 --> 01:09:46,773
Speaker 20: thing that you want to buy.

1350
01:09:46,893 --> 01:09:49,333
Speaker 11: I think that's an awesome thing to do.

1351
01:09:49,533 --> 01:09:51,613
Speaker 3: Yeah, that makes a lot of sense.

1352
01:09:52,213 --> 01:09:54,933
Speaker 20: Yeah, and then alongside of that also encouraging them to

1353
01:09:55,013 --> 01:09:57,133
Speaker 20: do jobs or projects that they can earn a little

1354
01:09:57,133 --> 01:09:59,813
Speaker 20: bit of extra money from you, which is the pocket

1355
01:10:00,013 --> 01:10:03,253
Speaker 20: money concept, right, So then they learn that there's you know,

1356
01:10:03,333 --> 01:10:06,413
Speaker 20: there's value in the money and they have to do

1357
01:10:06,573 --> 01:10:08,653
Speaker 20: something together other than the magic machine in the wall.

1358
01:10:08,893 --> 01:10:09,133
Speaker 2: Yeah.

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01:10:09,373 --> 01:10:12,693
Speaker 3: See, I've got mixed thoughts on pocket money as a whole.

1360
01:10:12,853 --> 01:10:14,773
Speaker 3: So I've got some friends who I think have gone

1361
01:10:14,773 --> 01:10:16,653
Speaker 3: a good way about it, So that their thing is

1362
01:10:18,013 --> 01:10:21,813
Speaker 3: that by being a contributing member to the family, you

1363
01:10:21,933 --> 01:10:24,253
Speaker 3: are expected to do some jobs around the house just

1364
01:10:24,453 --> 01:10:27,213
Speaker 3: by being part of the family, and that you will

1365
01:10:27,253 --> 01:10:29,293
Speaker 3: expect to get some a small amount of pocket money

1366
01:10:29,333 --> 01:10:31,933
Speaker 3: as a result, because you know, the family income is

1367
01:10:31,973 --> 01:10:35,093
Speaker 3: shared and the family jobs are shared. But that if

1368
01:10:35,173 --> 01:10:38,533
Speaker 3: you do additional stuff, then there might be an opportunity

1369
01:10:38,573 --> 01:10:40,613
Speaker 3: for some things. Or if you you know, go and

1370
01:10:40,693 --> 01:10:42,493
Speaker 3: help out the neighbors or something like that, then there

1371
01:10:42,533 --> 01:10:44,973
Speaker 3: might be an opportunity to do some additional things. And

1372
01:10:45,013 --> 01:10:46,173
Speaker 3: I think that's a really good way to go.

1373
01:10:46,173 --> 01:10:47,853
Speaker 20: About it, and I think that's that would probably be

1374
01:10:47,933 --> 01:10:50,053
Speaker 20: my preferred thing as well, because then you've got, you know,

1375
01:10:50,213 --> 01:10:51,893
Speaker 20: a balance, and then it's not like, well, I'm not

1376
01:10:51,933 --> 01:10:53,613
Speaker 20: going to make my bed unless you give me some money.

1377
01:10:53,693 --> 01:10:54,853
Speaker 20: You know, you don't want to get into that sort

1378
01:10:54,853 --> 01:10:57,413
Speaker 20: of situation. The other thing that I really quite like

1379
01:10:57,493 --> 01:10:58,893
Speaker 20: that I've seen number of friends do is I say

1380
01:10:58,933 --> 01:11:00,773
Speaker 20: that there, you know, to be kids, and you know

1381
01:11:00,853 --> 01:11:02,213
Speaker 20: they need to be a little bit older, and it's okay,

1382
01:11:02,213 --> 01:11:04,013
Speaker 20: we've got fifty dollars to spend this weekend or a

1383
01:11:04,053 --> 01:11:05,373
Speaker 20: hundred dollars to spend this weekning.

1384
01:11:05,173 --> 01:11:06,773
Speaker 11: Whatever it is, and go or are you over the

1385
01:11:06,853 --> 01:11:10,293
Speaker 11: month and go right? You know you're in charge of it. Yeah,

1386
01:11:10,613 --> 01:11:12,453
Speaker 11: sit down and decide what we're going to do.

1387
01:11:12,573 --> 01:11:15,053
Speaker 20: So that might mean that we go to the movies

1388
01:11:15,093 --> 01:11:17,293
Speaker 20: one weekend, but because we spent most of the money,

1389
01:11:17,693 --> 01:11:18,893
Speaker 20: that the next weekend we have to.

1390
01:11:18,893 --> 01:11:20,453
Speaker 11: Go to take a picnic and go to the park

1391
01:11:20,573 --> 01:11:21,693
Speaker 11: because we've run out of cash.

1392
01:11:22,133 --> 01:11:24,733
Speaker 3: Yeah that's that's that's amazing. I mean you've got to

1393
01:11:24,773 --> 01:11:27,853
Speaker 3: have some confidence or you've got to be out.

1394
01:11:27,933 --> 01:11:28,093
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1395
01:11:28,213 --> 01:11:31,333
Speaker 20: Yeah, but if they blow it, they blow it right, sure,

1396
01:11:31,613 --> 01:11:33,413
Speaker 20: But then you've got to put your foot down and say, well,

1397
01:11:33,533 --> 01:11:35,373
Speaker 20: you made the decision for.

1398
01:11:36,853 --> 01:11:37,013
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1399
01:11:37,093 --> 01:11:39,293
Speaker 20: Yeah, but it's that choice consequence and that's what I

1400
01:11:39,373 --> 01:11:40,413
Speaker 20: do a lot of adults.

1401
01:11:41,173 --> 01:11:43,613
Speaker 11: It's that critical thinking about if you do.

1402
01:11:43,733 --> 01:11:46,893
Speaker 20: This, then this then happens, right, and that's what you

1403
01:11:46,973 --> 01:11:48,853
Speaker 20: want to have happened. So I think that's a great

1404
01:11:48,853 --> 01:11:49,413
Speaker 20: thing to be doing.

1405
01:11:49,453 --> 01:11:51,493
Speaker 3: And that's a really good way to learn the lesson

1406
01:11:51,573 --> 01:11:54,053
Speaker 3: quickly as well, I think, which is which is a

1407
01:11:54,133 --> 01:11:54,773
Speaker 3: real upside.

1408
01:11:54,853 --> 01:11:58,133
Speaker 20: Yeah, and then they start learning too that they start

1409
01:11:58,173 --> 01:12:02,453
Speaker 20: looking for discounts online or comparing activities costs. Again, a

1410
01:12:02,533 --> 01:12:04,653
Speaker 20: great thing for down the track when you start, you know,

1411
01:12:05,253 --> 01:12:06,733
Speaker 20: doing a smart shop, right.

1412
01:12:06,933 --> 01:12:07,133
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1413
01:12:07,973 --> 01:12:10,493
Speaker 20: The other thing I quite like from a saving perspective

1414
01:12:10,573 --> 01:12:12,693
Speaker 20: or an investing perspective, and it's probably because maybe Tao

1415
01:12:12,733 --> 01:12:16,293
Speaker 20: a bit older, is to start introducing matching contributions so

1416
01:12:16,493 --> 01:12:19,133
Speaker 20: they get to a certain goal of saving, then you

1417
01:12:19,213 --> 01:12:19,933
Speaker 20: might chop it up.

1418
01:12:20,453 --> 01:12:23,413
Speaker 3: Oh that's a good idea as well, to really incentivize that. Yeah,

1419
01:12:23,533 --> 01:12:26,453
Speaker 3: and maybe even I mean it's almost like key we

1420
01:12:26,493 --> 01:12:28,813
Speaker 3: say it's more than you get from compound interest necessarily,

1421
01:12:28,893 --> 01:12:31,413
Speaker 3: but to try and really hammer home the benefit of saving,

1422
01:12:31,533 --> 01:12:33,213
Speaker 3: that's a yeah, that's a great and.

1423
01:12:33,253 --> 01:12:39,933
Speaker 20: I love that for university fees, yeah, and also home deposits,

1424
01:12:40,133 --> 01:12:42,013
Speaker 20: like the parents are contributing a lot these dates to

1425
01:12:42,093 --> 01:12:43,893
Speaker 20: the kids home deposits, but I might don't give it

1426
01:12:43,973 --> 01:12:44,973
Speaker 20: to them match it.

1427
01:12:45,573 --> 01:12:48,533
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a very very good piece of advice. Okay, Hey,

1428
01:12:48,573 --> 01:12:51,373
Speaker 3: thank you so much, Lisa. Those are really good practical tips.

1429
01:12:51,493 --> 01:12:51,973
Speaker 3: Appreciate it.

1430
01:12:52,253 --> 01:12:55,613
Speaker 11: Something to be prepared for Jack gulp.

1431
01:12:56,653 --> 01:12:57,173
Speaker 2: I think he's a.

1432
01:12:57,173 --> 01:12:59,213
Speaker 3: Little young to be deciding what we'll be doing for

1433
01:12:59,333 --> 01:13:03,133
Speaker 3: fun next week. But yeah, we'll see, all right, thanks Jack.

1434
01:13:03,813 --> 01:13:06,653
Speaker 3: That is Lisa does in our personal finance expert as much.

1435
01:13:06,653 --> 01:13:09,973
Speaker 3: We certainly won't be sleeping after eleven o'clock this morning.

1436
01:13:10,213 --> 01:13:18,093
Speaker 3: Our clinical psychologist isn't. With a really confronting line. He says,

1437
01:13:18,373 --> 01:13:21,333
Speaker 3: it's time for us all to stop trying to be happy.

1438
01:13:23,853 --> 01:13:24,293
Speaker 4: Don't worry.

1439
01:13:24,333 --> 01:13:26,293
Speaker 3: There is some context here. He's going to unpack it

1440
01:13:26,373 --> 01:13:28,373
Speaker 3: for us right after the eleven o'clock news this morning.

1441
01:13:28,453 --> 01:13:30,333
Speaker 3: Next So we are in the garden right now, it's

1442
01:13:30,373 --> 01:13:31,613
Speaker 3: ten to eleven on these dogs.

1443
01:13:31,653 --> 01:13:35,613
Speaker 1: He'd be gardening with Still shaft free autumn upgrades on

1444
01:13:35,693 --> 01:13:36,733
Speaker 1: Still's best sellers.

1445
01:13:37,333 --> 01:13:39,933
Speaker 3: It's the first and last call for Veggy's in the garden.

1446
01:13:40,053 --> 01:13:42,573
Speaker 3: A man in the gardener's rude climb past. He's here

1447
01:13:42,653 --> 01:13:43,493
Speaker 3: this morning, killed her.

1448
01:13:44,573 --> 01:13:45,493
Speaker 2: Hey, Kira Jack.

1449
01:13:46,013 --> 01:13:48,453
Speaker 10: Before we go any further, I just want to say

1450
01:13:48,533 --> 01:13:49,773
Speaker 10: happy birth there for Tuesday.

1451
01:13:49,853 --> 01:13:56,253
Speaker 4: That's here.

1452
01:13:56,333 --> 01:13:58,853
Speaker 3: I suggest you have a very happy birthday as well.

1453
01:13:59,853 --> 01:14:02,133
Speaker 10: Yeah, well I will, but that a little bit later.

1454
01:14:02,453 --> 01:14:05,133
Speaker 10: But anyway, that's yeah. I remember because you're very close

1455
01:14:05,173 --> 01:14:08,493
Speaker 10: to my son under sun that's why. But anyway, that

1456
01:14:08,613 --> 01:14:11,053
Speaker 10: is interesting how these things change, don't they.

1457
01:14:12,373 --> 01:14:18,613
Speaker 3: Yes, because birthday, it hasn't my my birthday. I just

1458
01:14:18,693 --> 01:14:20,613
Speaker 3: think this year isn't going to be a huge priority

1459
01:14:20,693 --> 01:14:22,853
Speaker 3: for too many people in our household. But that's all right,

1460
01:14:23,013 --> 01:14:26,613
Speaker 3: that's alright. I'm used to suffering dead, you know. It's

1461
01:14:26,693 --> 01:14:30,453
Speaker 3: just these are the way things are this time of

1462
01:14:30,613 --> 01:14:33,173
Speaker 3: this time of year. Though it sort of comincides with

1463
01:14:33,253 --> 01:14:35,493
Speaker 3: my birthday. That we I mean, we're starting to notice

1464
01:14:35,493 --> 01:14:37,293
Speaker 3: that around the country a little bit, a little bit

1465
01:14:37,373 --> 01:14:39,213
Speaker 3: cooler at night in a lot of places, a little

1466
01:14:39,253 --> 01:14:42,973
Speaker 3: bit damper underfoot. We are slowly heading towards autumn.

1467
01:14:43,813 --> 01:14:44,253
Speaker 2: That's right.

1468
01:14:44,573 --> 01:14:46,573
Speaker 10: But also the other thing is that you get shorter

1469
01:14:46,733 --> 01:14:48,733
Speaker 10: day lengths, and I think a lot of people forget

1470
01:14:48,813 --> 01:14:51,293
Speaker 10: that it's not just temperature that does it. But it's

1471
01:14:51,333 --> 01:14:54,933
Speaker 10: the day length system and that is that is really

1472
01:14:55,013 --> 01:14:57,773
Speaker 10: what this whole thing is about in terms of autumn.

1473
01:14:58,253 --> 01:15:00,373
Speaker 10: So I'll give you an example. For instance, you can,

1474
01:15:00,573 --> 01:15:03,773
Speaker 10: I think you can still grow French beans and plant

1475
01:15:03,853 --> 01:15:07,493
Speaker 10: an a s a p okay in the Auckland region,

1476
01:15:08,613 --> 01:15:11,853
Speaker 10: whereas I had to do mine two weeks ago, so

1477
01:15:12,013 --> 01:15:13,733
Speaker 10: that you know what I mean. It's that sort of

1478
01:15:13,733 --> 01:15:17,053
Speaker 10: stuff and it's going and it's going quite well because

1479
01:15:17,213 --> 01:15:21,533
Speaker 10: yes we've had a rappy summer. It is okay if

1480
01:15:22,373 --> 01:15:26,813
Speaker 10: everything is sheltered from the cold winds, for instance, and

1481
01:15:26,933 --> 01:15:29,013
Speaker 10: these things will keep going. So, my friends, beans are

1482
01:15:29,013 --> 01:15:33,693
Speaker 10: going well. The peace another actually peace, to be quite honest.

1483
01:15:34,093 --> 01:15:36,773
Speaker 10: You can plant those for a lot longer than beans,

1484
01:15:36,813 --> 01:15:42,293
Speaker 10: for instance, but peace will go literally through almost through

1485
01:15:42,373 --> 01:15:45,453
Speaker 10: the winter, and if you're lucky, you can actually still

1486
01:15:45,533 --> 01:15:49,173
Speaker 10: harvest your peace before it becomes winter. So that's exactly

1487
01:15:49,613 --> 01:15:53,093
Speaker 10: what I'm aiming for. I just thought I'm at that

1488
01:15:53,293 --> 01:15:56,893
Speaker 10: point because if you have a well drained soil, nice

1489
01:15:56,933 --> 01:15:58,973
Speaker 10: and moist and that sort of stuff in a sunny,

1490
01:15:59,013 --> 01:16:02,453
Speaker 10: warm spot, even here on the porthills, I know I

1491
01:16:02,533 --> 01:16:05,653
Speaker 10: can get beans going before anything that starts to go

1492
01:16:05,773 --> 01:16:07,613
Speaker 10: down to gurgle and it's important.

1493
01:16:08,173 --> 01:16:08,373
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1494
01:16:09,333 --> 01:16:11,253
Speaker 10: The other the other one is Julie is a broad

1495
01:16:11,653 --> 01:16:15,173
Speaker 10: broad beans fan. I don't mind him, but it's not

1496
01:16:15,373 --> 01:16:23,253
Speaker 10: rook anyway, you know. Yeah, you know, No, I'm a

1497
01:16:23,373 --> 01:16:26,693
Speaker 10: reasonably okay guardener for her taste as well.

1498
01:16:27,933 --> 01:16:30,613
Speaker 3: But there you do what my mom does with them.

1499
01:16:30,653 --> 01:16:35,493
Speaker 3: She just fries broad beans with bacon. No, no, you

1500
01:16:35,693 --> 01:16:39,933
Speaker 3: are amazing. It is so so so good. It is delicious,

1501
01:16:39,973 --> 01:16:42,173
Speaker 3: like one of my all time favorite recipes of my mom,

1502
01:16:42,253 --> 01:16:44,293
Speaker 3: which is saying something because she's an amazing cook. But yeah,

1503
01:16:44,333 --> 01:16:45,293
Speaker 3: broad beans and bacon there.

1504
01:16:46,693 --> 01:16:48,773
Speaker 10: Yeah, I'm going to write that down right now and

1505
01:16:48,973 --> 01:16:50,653
Speaker 10: I'm going to have a chat with the with the

1506
01:16:50,693 --> 01:16:51,653
Speaker 10: boss tonight about that.

1507
01:16:52,493 --> 01:16:55,773
Speaker 2: So broad but there you go, do it now, gorgeous.

1508
01:16:56,253 --> 01:16:57,893
Speaker 2: Same with carrot. Carrots too.

1509
01:16:59,173 --> 01:17:01,653
Speaker 10: Carrots can be planted right now. You can actually keep

1510
01:17:01,733 --> 01:17:03,813
Speaker 10: going for quite a while, and you do it every

1511
01:17:03,933 --> 01:17:07,573
Speaker 10: two weeks a bitch, so you'll have you know, you

1512
01:17:07,693 --> 01:17:10,533
Speaker 10: have them growing up. When you run under the first

1513
01:17:10,573 --> 01:17:12,613
Speaker 10: pitch the second one, we'll be ready. It's as simple

1514
01:17:12,613 --> 01:17:12,853
Speaker 10: as that.

1515
01:17:13,093 --> 01:17:13,293
Speaker 21: Yeah.

1516
01:17:13,573 --> 01:17:18,773
Speaker 10: And the other thing about carrots is is that you

1517
01:17:19,053 --> 01:17:23,013
Speaker 10: need really clean soil. What I mean with that checker said,

1518
01:17:23,053 --> 01:17:24,973
Speaker 10: if you think, I know, you haven't got time.

1519
01:17:25,093 --> 01:17:25,213
Speaker 9: Now.

1520
01:17:25,453 --> 01:17:26,933
Speaker 10: I'm not saying you have to do and all that,

1521
01:17:27,093 --> 01:17:29,893
Speaker 10: but if you want to grow carrots, make sure your

1522
01:17:29,973 --> 01:17:33,173
Speaker 10: soil is really stone free so you don't get that before.

1523
01:17:33,733 --> 01:17:35,933
Speaker 3: Yes, you got to head off on these sorts of directions,

1524
01:17:35,973 --> 01:17:37,413
Speaker 3: don't they exactly?

1525
01:17:37,533 --> 01:17:41,413
Speaker 10: There you go and finally and finally broccoli. You keep

1526
01:17:41,453 --> 01:17:43,213
Speaker 10: going with it right now, you'll be fine.

1527
01:17:43,453 --> 01:17:46,773
Speaker 3: Yeah, very good. Hey think sir. We'll put all of

1528
01:17:46,813 --> 01:17:49,373
Speaker 3: those tips and the things you need to get in

1529
01:17:49,413 --> 01:17:52,333
Speaker 3: the ground now to get organized for autumn up on

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Speaker 3: the News Talk c B website. So what is it's

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Speaker 3: twentieth of March. I think a ten oh one pm.

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Speaker 3: That's when we switch from some of the autumn officially anyway,

1533
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Speaker 3: Roots a sticklers for these things, you know, after leaving

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Speaker 3: do mone Who's hurt?

1543
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Speaker 5: I don't know.

1544
01:18:54,453 --> 01:18:56,493
Speaker 3: I'd say that as someone who's never done a manu

1545
01:18:56,733 --> 01:18:58,493
Speaker 3: and probably couldn't do a monu.

1546
01:18:58,973 --> 01:18:59,253
Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I feel like you sort of have to feel like

1548
01:19:01,693 --> 01:19:04,293
Speaker 3: when you're built like a praying mantis, I feel like

1549
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Speaker 3: that's not the kind of ideal physical shape for a

1550
01:19:06,853 --> 01:19:10,053
Speaker 3: mone who. Anyway, the final of the Moneu World Champs

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Speaker 3: is on this weekend. Suff Tarmackie Makoda, Auckland and seven meters.

1552
01:19:14,373 --> 01:19:16,053
Speaker 3: I was a little bit surprised that seven meters is

1553
01:19:16,133 --> 01:19:18,373
Speaker 3: the platform off which they're diving for the mone Who's

1554
01:19:18,413 --> 01:19:20,293
Speaker 3: I thought it was like a three meter platform, But

1555
01:19:20,373 --> 01:19:23,293
Speaker 3: seven meters just feels to me like it could hurt.

1556
01:19:23,813 --> 01:19:26,413
Speaker 3: So if you know anything, or even just a little

1557
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Speaker 3: bit more than I do about mone Whose, please let

1558
01:19:28,133 --> 01:19:29,773
Speaker 3: me know. I'd be interested to know if mone Who's hurt.

1559
01:19:29,893 --> 01:19:32,133
Speaker 3: I can imagine if you get them wrong, they definitely hurt.

1560
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01:19:36,253 --> 01:19:38,333
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1563
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1565
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Speaker 3: he's going to share his top tips on that with

1566
01:19:51,093 --> 01:19:54,493
Speaker 3: us very shortly. Right now, it's eight minutes past eleven, Jack,

1567
01:19:54,613 --> 01:19:57,413
Speaker 3: Team clind ofical psychologist Google Sutherland is here with us

1568
01:19:58,093 --> 01:20:01,053
Speaker 3: this morning, and he has a rather interesting subject. He

1569
01:20:01,133 --> 01:20:03,333
Speaker 3: wants us to stop trying to be happy, or at

1570
01:20:03,413 --> 01:20:06,293
Speaker 3: least he's read some research into stopping trying to be happy.

1571
01:20:06,693 --> 01:20:09,133
Speaker 3: Morning doogle curra Jack.

1572
01:20:09,213 --> 01:20:11,893
Speaker 22: Yes, it's not really what you expect when you took

1573
01:20:11,933 --> 01:20:13,853
Speaker 22: to a psychologist is that they're going to tell you

1574
01:20:13,933 --> 01:20:17,373
Speaker 22: to stop trying to be happy. But yeah, it's it's

1575
01:20:18,493 --> 01:20:23,293
Speaker 22: an interesting the article that I was reading. Often, you

1576
01:20:23,413 --> 01:20:26,493
Speaker 22: might not be surprised to know. Often psychology research articles

1577
01:20:26,533 --> 01:20:29,653
Speaker 22: don't have the sexiest titles. Yes, but this one was

1578
01:20:29,693 --> 01:20:34,133
Speaker 22: called Happiness Depletes Me, and it was like, that's and

1579
01:20:34,213 --> 01:20:36,813
Speaker 22: what they found was that if you are trying to

1580
01:20:36,933 --> 01:20:40,053
Speaker 22: be happy, or you spend lots of time trying to

1581
01:20:40,133 --> 01:20:42,693
Speaker 22: be happy, and that's trying to look for as much

1582
01:20:42,893 --> 01:20:46,693
Speaker 22: positive emotion as possible and at the same time void

1583
01:20:46,933 --> 01:20:49,573
Speaker 22: negative emotions like sadness and that sort of thing. It

1584
01:20:49,733 --> 01:20:54,573
Speaker 22: actually leads to people feeling less happy, having less energy, and.

1585
01:20:55,973 --> 01:20:58,733
Speaker 9: Feeling lonely as well. So the more you try, the

1586
01:20:58,813 --> 01:20:59,693
Speaker 9: worse it becomes.

1587
01:20:59,853 --> 01:21:05,013
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's interesting. So if you deliberately alter your kind

1588
01:21:05,053 --> 01:21:09,493
Speaker 3: of your behavior and your thoughts and stuff, then it

1589
01:21:09,693 --> 01:21:13,173
Speaker 3: ultimately you ultimately end up kind of focusing more on

1590
01:21:13,253 --> 01:21:15,133
Speaker 3: the negative things, or at the very least, it leaves

1591
01:21:15,173 --> 01:21:18,413
Speaker 3: you kind of exhausted and depleted.

1592
01:21:18,573 --> 01:21:21,573
Speaker 9: And yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. Well two things.

1593
01:21:21,653 --> 01:21:24,613
Speaker 22: One is that you know, having all this deliberate You've

1594
01:21:24,653 --> 01:21:26,653
Speaker 22: only got you know, a certain amount of energy, right,

1595
01:21:26,733 --> 01:21:30,493
Speaker 22: and so if you're expending that on trying to do something,

1596
01:21:30,893 --> 01:21:34,413
Speaker 22: changing your behavior, changing your thoughts, then you can get

1597
01:21:35,013 --> 01:21:38,053
Speaker 22: tired and exhausted, and then you end up because you know,

1598
01:21:38,253 --> 01:21:39,573
Speaker 22: you know what it's like when you're a bit tired

1599
01:21:39,573 --> 01:21:41,373
Speaker 22: and you make a stupid decision and you end up

1600
01:21:41,413 --> 01:21:44,053
Speaker 22: overspending or overeating or something.

1601
01:21:43,893 --> 01:21:46,053
Speaker 9: Like that, and then you regret that and then and

1602
01:21:46,293 --> 01:21:49,533
Speaker 9: you get all yeah, yeah, yeah.

1603
01:21:49,733 --> 01:21:51,293
Speaker 22: I think The other thing too, I think is that

1604
01:21:51,453 --> 01:21:54,853
Speaker 22: when people are you know, the look always looking for

1605
01:21:55,013 --> 01:21:55,533
Speaker 22: the next thing.

1606
01:21:55,573 --> 01:21:56,973
Speaker 9: Okay, what are we going to do today? What's kind

1607
01:21:56,973 --> 01:21:59,893
Speaker 9: of today that's going to make me, happy people tend

1608
01:21:59,933 --> 01:22:03,573
Speaker 9: to overlook the very small moments.

1609
01:22:03,213 --> 01:22:06,293
Speaker 22: Of joy that occur naturally, and and that might be

1610
01:22:06,893 --> 01:22:09,373
Speaker 22: you know, this morning, I went out and it's been

1611
01:22:09,693 --> 01:22:13,613
Speaker 22: it's been a beautiful week here in Wellington weatherwise, and

1612
01:22:13,653 --> 01:22:15,493
Speaker 22: I just still down our deck, on our deck, and

1613
01:22:15,573 --> 01:22:17,493
Speaker 22: it was just really delightful to.

1614
01:22:17,533 --> 01:22:21,213
Speaker 3: Be honest, Yeah, youw are those two minutes this year?

1615
01:22:21,333 --> 01:22:21,533
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1616
01:22:21,613 --> 01:22:23,533
Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you about.

1617
01:22:23,453 --> 01:22:25,733
Speaker 22: Yeah, we'll take those because that's the better we're going

1618
01:22:25,773 --> 01:22:28,173
Speaker 22: to get. But it was just those small moments and

1619
01:22:28,333 --> 01:22:30,973
Speaker 22: if I had been in a hurry and focused on Okay,

1620
01:22:31,013 --> 01:22:31,693
Speaker 22: what am I going to do that?

1621
01:22:31,933 --> 01:22:32,733
Speaker 9: What am I going to do that?

1622
01:22:32,813 --> 01:22:35,613
Speaker 22: It's going to feel great, then you tend to miss

1623
01:22:35,733 --> 01:22:39,933
Speaker 22: those small moments of joy that just spontaneously occur and

1624
01:22:40,013 --> 01:22:43,653
Speaker 22: actually and do give you that positive feeling.

1625
01:22:44,013 --> 01:22:47,093
Speaker 3: And this isn't necessarily new thinking, right, because there was

1626
01:22:47,133 --> 01:22:48,933
Speaker 3: that book I can't remember it was was a few

1627
01:22:48,973 --> 01:22:50,493
Speaker 3: years ago now that the Happiness Trap.

1628
01:22:51,133 --> 01:22:53,733
Speaker 9: Yeah, that's right, So it's not new at all.

1629
01:22:54,213 --> 01:22:57,293
Speaker 22: You know that this idea has been around for about

1630
01:22:57,653 --> 01:23:00,453
Speaker 22: twenty twenty five years. As you say, The Happiness Trap

1631
01:23:00,653 --> 01:23:03,213
Speaker 22: was by an Australian guy, Ras Harris, and it's it's

1632
01:23:03,253 --> 01:23:05,893
Speaker 22: based on a type of therapy called acceptance and commitment

1633
01:23:06,373 --> 01:23:09,693
Speaker 22: therapy and or act not not the political party that

1634
01:23:10,293 --> 01:23:12,093
Speaker 22: which is always a little bit confusing if you're talking

1635
01:23:12,093 --> 01:23:14,613
Speaker 22: to clients, they think you're trying you're trying to convert

1636
01:23:14,693 --> 01:23:16,373
Speaker 22: them to a particular political cause.

1637
01:23:16,173 --> 01:23:18,173
Speaker 9: And you have to explain it's it's not that, but yeah,

1638
01:23:18,413 --> 01:23:21,333
Speaker 9: it's around that. So his book was called The Happiness Trap,

1639
01:23:21,373 --> 01:23:24,573
Speaker 9: and it was really it's a great I thoroughly.

1640
01:23:24,293 --> 01:23:26,413
Speaker 22: Recommend it for people if they're into it, but it

1641
01:23:26,533 --> 01:23:30,053
Speaker 22: really sets out kind of three things that you should

1642
01:23:30,133 --> 01:23:33,853
Speaker 22: do instead of looking for positive emotions, So instead of

1643
01:23:33,933 --> 01:23:35,493
Speaker 22: searching for happiness all the time.

1644
01:23:35,733 --> 01:23:38,653
Speaker 3: Yeah right, okay, So what are the tips that they

1645
01:23:38,733 --> 01:23:40,493
Speaker 3: share through the Happiness Trap? Like, you just sort of

1646
01:23:40,533 --> 01:23:42,853
Speaker 3: got to accept that you do have some down moments, right.

1647
01:23:43,453 --> 01:23:44,613
Speaker 9: Yeah, that's the first one.

1648
01:23:45,093 --> 01:23:49,613
Speaker 22: It's it's not being it's it's it's it's being okay

1649
01:23:50,093 --> 01:23:53,453
Speaker 22: with not being okay sometimes. And it doesn't mean that

1650
01:23:53,893 --> 01:23:59,173
Speaker 22: you go searching for pain or or sadness or negative emotions,

1651
01:23:59,213 --> 01:24:00,893
Speaker 22: and it doesn't mean that you revel on them, but

1652
01:24:01,013 --> 01:24:01,573
Speaker 22: it just is.

1653
01:24:01,573 --> 01:24:05,853
Speaker 9: The acceptance that they these occur naturally to all of us.

1654
01:24:06,013 --> 01:24:09,453
Speaker 9: And in our life, it's part of life. It's okay

1655
01:24:09,693 --> 01:24:11,613
Speaker 9: to have them, it's normal to have them.

1656
01:24:11,693 --> 01:24:13,533
Speaker 22: So that's the first thing I think is accepting them

1657
01:24:13,533 --> 01:24:16,013
Speaker 22: and don't try not to fight against them, if that

1658
01:24:16,213 --> 01:24:20,053
Speaker 22: make sense. And then going the second point would be,

1659
01:24:20,373 --> 01:24:23,973
Speaker 22: you know, going back to our just you know, picking

1660
01:24:24,053 --> 01:24:25,733
Speaker 22: up from what we talked about a moment ago about.

1661
01:24:25,693 --> 01:24:30,973
Speaker 9: Small moments of joy. Enjoy those positive moments when they

1662
01:24:31,093 --> 01:24:31,613
Speaker 9: do occur.

1663
01:24:31,853 --> 01:24:35,133
Speaker 22: So so just be alert and be aware for when

1664
01:24:35,173 --> 01:24:37,573
Speaker 22: those very small moments of joy occur.

1665
01:24:37,773 --> 01:24:39,373
Speaker 9: You know. And I'm thinking about you with a new

1666
01:24:39,413 --> 01:24:42,133
Speaker 9: baby and sleepless nights, and and and and.

1667
01:24:43,733 --> 01:24:45,493
Speaker 22: It's easy to kind of overlook that there will be

1668
01:24:45,573 --> 01:24:48,973
Speaker 22: times as your boy grows up, you know that that

1669
01:24:49,333 --> 01:24:51,693
Speaker 22: you know, there'll be those little moments of a smile

1670
01:24:51,813 --> 01:24:55,173
Speaker 22: or a giggle or whatever. And if you're too focused

1671
01:24:55,293 --> 01:24:58,533
Speaker 22: on other things, you can miss those little small moments

1672
01:24:58,573 --> 01:25:01,493
Speaker 22: that really bring us sort of joy and happiness just

1673
01:25:01,693 --> 01:25:02,613
Speaker 22: just naturally occurring.

1674
01:25:02,733 --> 01:25:04,093
Speaker 3: I think this is a bit of a danger for

1675
01:25:04,173 --> 01:25:07,253
Speaker 3: me generally, because I'm a real time optimizer. You know,

1676
01:25:07,333 --> 01:25:11,053
Speaker 3: I'm very productivity focused, and kind of every conscious and

1677
01:25:11,133 --> 01:25:13,453
Speaker 3: waking moment, I'm always like, what kind of do now

1678
01:25:13,533 --> 01:25:15,253
Speaker 3: to you know, get more done and get more things

1679
01:25:15,293 --> 01:25:16,373
Speaker 3: of the day, and you end up just kind of

1680
01:25:16,453 --> 01:25:18,373
Speaker 3: rushing through the day and not being present. I suppose

1681
01:25:18,413 --> 01:25:19,973
Speaker 3: that's what it is. A just but just trying to

1682
01:25:20,013 --> 01:25:22,253
Speaker 3: be another word for being trying.

1683
01:25:21,693 --> 01:25:22,213
Speaker 2: To be present.

1684
01:25:22,293 --> 01:25:25,573
Speaker 9: Yeah, one hundred percent. I think it's it's it's you know,

1685
01:25:26,053 --> 01:25:29,053
Speaker 9: it's it's focused more on being rather than doing.

1686
01:25:29,493 --> 01:25:30,653
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think too.

1687
01:25:31,533 --> 01:25:34,213
Speaker 9: And look in the third tip, i'd say, and this

1688
01:25:34,333 --> 01:25:35,653
Speaker 9: is what the Happiness track talks about.

1689
01:25:35,653 --> 01:25:39,053
Speaker 22: Two is around live life, because my people might say, well,

1690
01:25:39,053 --> 01:25:40,973
Speaker 22: if I'm not trying to be happy all the time.

1691
01:25:40,893 --> 01:25:42,093
Speaker 9: How should I live my life?

1692
01:25:42,173 --> 01:25:46,693
Speaker 22: And and and Russ Harris talks about living according to

1693
01:25:46,813 --> 01:25:50,493
Speaker 22: your values and and one way to sort of figure

1694
01:25:50,533 --> 01:25:52,453
Speaker 22: out what your values are, because we all probably have them,

1695
01:25:52,493 --> 01:25:55,813
Speaker 22: but we may not always know what they are, is

1696
01:25:55,933 --> 01:25:59,373
Speaker 22: to ask yourself, what are three words that I would

1697
01:25:59,573 --> 01:26:02,613
Speaker 22: like other people to use to describe me?

1698
01:26:03,213 --> 01:26:07,813
Speaker 9: And those three words are probably cotive of your value.

1699
01:26:07,893 --> 01:26:10,413
Speaker 22: So if you know, you say I'd love people to

1700
01:26:10,453 --> 01:26:15,453
Speaker 22: think I'm dependable or considerate or kind or hard working, whatever.

1701
01:26:15,213 --> 01:26:17,653
Speaker 9: It is, those are probably your values.

1702
01:26:17,773 --> 01:26:21,533
Speaker 22: And start using those as almost like a compass to

1703
01:26:21,613 --> 01:26:24,413
Speaker 22: guide you and how you speak, how you act in

1704
01:26:24,533 --> 01:26:29,333
Speaker 22: the world, and that leads to a fulfilling life rather

1705
01:26:29,453 --> 01:26:32,493
Speaker 22: than necessarily one that's packed full to the brim of happiness.

1706
01:26:32,733 --> 01:26:37,013
Speaker 22: It's a fulfilling life with moments of joy, moments of sadness,

1707
01:26:37,053 --> 01:26:40,093
Speaker 22: but probably ultimately better for us in the longer term.

1708
01:26:40,213 --> 01:26:42,333
Speaker 3: Yeah, And the funny thing is, I feel like a

1709
01:26:42,453 --> 01:26:44,653
Speaker 3: fulfilling life is actually a better way to think of

1710
01:26:44,693 --> 01:26:48,013
Speaker 3: a happy life. Like, Yeah, sometimes I wonder if you

1711
01:26:48,093 --> 01:26:50,653
Speaker 3: it's just breaking it down into time frames. That is

1712
01:26:50,733 --> 01:26:52,813
Speaker 3: the kind of good way to distinguish between these things.

1713
01:26:52,893 --> 01:26:55,693
Speaker 3: If you, if you are you know, in your in

1714
01:26:55,813 --> 01:26:59,093
Speaker 3: the twilight of your of your time on this mortal earth,

1715
01:26:59,413 --> 01:27:01,253
Speaker 3: and you look back over your life and you're able

1716
01:27:01,333 --> 01:27:03,693
Speaker 3: to have that kind of fulfilled feeling that that is

1717
01:27:03,813 --> 01:27:07,213
Speaker 3: happening in my Yeah, whereas it you're just focusing on

1718
01:27:07,333 --> 01:27:09,493
Speaker 3: the was have I been happy all day? Am I

1719
01:27:09,573 --> 01:27:10,213
Speaker 3: happy right now?

1720
01:27:10,333 --> 01:27:10,453
Speaker 2: You know?

1721
01:27:10,573 --> 01:27:12,413
Speaker 3: Then you never get You're always going to be chasing

1722
01:27:12,453 --> 01:27:13,373
Speaker 3: something that doesn't exist.

1723
01:27:13,693 --> 01:27:16,733
Speaker 22: Yeah, it's a deeper level, isn't I'd perhaps call it

1724
01:27:16,973 --> 01:27:20,733
Speaker 22: joy maybe, or satisfaction, or even that sort of sense

1725
01:27:20,773 --> 01:27:25,253
Speaker 22: of peace or or equanimity, just that sense of oh,

1726
01:27:25,453 --> 01:27:30,413
Speaker 22: I'm i'm, I'm, I'm here, I am and I'm enjoying

1727
01:27:30,733 --> 01:27:35,333
Speaker 22: life and my life as feels complete. And that can

1728
01:27:35,413 --> 01:27:37,133
Speaker 22: be a bit of a subtle change for people, but

1729
01:27:38,133 --> 01:27:41,013
Speaker 22: I think a really good one if you're able to switch.

1730
01:27:40,813 --> 01:27:41,573
Speaker 3: That up nice.

1731
01:27:41,693 --> 01:27:42,093
Speaker 4: I like that.

1732
01:27:42,733 --> 01:27:45,293
Speaker 3: We'll put that by your byline. Google Sutherlands is stop

1733
01:27:45,373 --> 01:27:48,453
Speaker 3: trying to be happy. Clinical psychologist Turgle Sutherlands is stopped

1734
01:27:48,453 --> 01:27:53,333
Speaker 3: trying to be happy, be fulfilled instead, be satisfied. Thank

1735
01:27:53,373 --> 01:27:55,133
Speaker 3: you so much, Google, Have a great weekend and we'll

1736
01:27:55,173 --> 01:27:58,013
Speaker 3: catch again very soon. Google Subtherland from Umbrella Well Being.

1737
01:27:58,093 --> 01:28:00,253
Speaker 3: There a travel correspondent is in in a couple of

1738
01:28:00,293 --> 01:28:02,013
Speaker 3: minutes at sixteen minutes past eleven.

1739
01:28:03,853 --> 01:28:07,093
Speaker 2: Travel with Windy Woo Tours with the World is yours

1740
01:28:07,293 --> 01:28:07,733
Speaker 2: for now.

1741
01:28:08,213 --> 01:28:11,813
Speaker 3: Mike Yardley is our travel correspondent, Killed kilder Jack.

1742
01:28:11,893 --> 01:28:14,093
Speaker 23: Now it's a very big day, March one.

1743
01:28:14,733 --> 01:28:15,373
Speaker 2: Do you know why?

1744
01:28:16,053 --> 01:28:17,133
Speaker 3: Happy birthday, Mike?

1745
01:28:17,693 --> 01:28:19,973
Speaker 4: No, No, not that I know of.

1746
01:28:20,173 --> 01:28:23,453
Speaker 23: No, it's a happy birthday day to the bluff Oysters seasons.

1747
01:28:23,613 --> 01:28:23,653
Speaker 4: No.

1748
01:28:25,373 --> 01:28:27,773
Speaker 3: Oh, I should have that in my diary.

1749
01:28:28,053 --> 01:28:30,933
Speaker 23: Yeah, okay, you ordering them up because the fishing boats

1750
01:28:31,013 --> 01:28:33,853
Speaker 23: go out today. Fantastic going to be a good season.

1751
01:28:34,013 --> 01:28:35,933
Speaker 3: Yep, oh good, okay, well that's good to know.

1752
01:28:36,133 --> 01:28:36,333
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1753
01:28:36,373 --> 01:28:39,093
Speaker 3: Yeah, you've got to get in quick too, superb. I'm pleased.

1754
01:28:39,133 --> 01:28:41,653
Speaker 3: I'm please you've alerted that, well, please, you've alerted me.

1755
01:28:41,693 --> 01:28:43,653
Speaker 3: I'm not sure I'm pleased you've alerted the nation to that,

1756
01:28:43,813 --> 01:28:48,293
Speaker 3: but hey, anyway, we're focusing on things slightly further north

1757
01:28:48,333 --> 01:28:50,573
Speaker 3: this morning, the Forgotten World, which is of course the

1758
01:28:50,653 --> 01:28:53,293
Speaker 3: King Country. And you've been riding the rails through the

1759
01:28:53,333 --> 01:28:56,573
Speaker 3: Forgotten World. So how big is the route and what

1760
01:28:56,653 --> 01:28:57,573
Speaker 3: are you actually riding on?

1761
01:28:58,253 --> 01:29:01,173
Speaker 23: It's a whopper jack. You're ripping through the King Country

1762
01:29:01,293 --> 01:29:05,533
Speaker 23: for one forty two kilometers, so you're riding on a

1763
01:29:05,613 --> 01:29:08,493
Speaker 23: decommission raph line stretching from the northern tip of the

1764
01:29:08,613 --> 01:29:14,173
Speaker 23: Rue of Pehu district to Heartland Tartanaki Stratford to Okahokah

1765
01:29:14,573 --> 01:29:17,173
Speaker 23: which is just out of Timotanui. But this is no

1766
01:29:17,373 --> 01:29:20,413
Speaker 23: train trip. You are riding on souped up golf carts

1767
01:29:20,453 --> 01:29:24,133
Speaker 23: from Arizona and you're in charge of the pedals. The

1768
01:29:24,173 --> 01:29:27,133
Speaker 23: wheels are fastened to the tracks, which is nice to know,

1769
01:29:27,973 --> 01:29:31,173
Speaker 23: so no steering required or whoa then actually gets some

1770
01:29:31,333 --> 01:29:34,893
Speaker 23: getting used to reflex is to put your hands on

1771
01:29:34,973 --> 01:29:36,813
Speaker 23: the wheel. So I was a slow learner for the

1772
01:29:36,853 --> 01:29:37,613
Speaker 23: first hour or two.

1773
01:29:38,613 --> 01:29:40,733
Speaker 3: I think it'll be the same actually, yeah, just kind

1774
01:29:40,733 --> 01:29:43,693
Speaker 3: of reflexively reaching down and wanting to lean into turns.

1775
01:29:43,773 --> 01:29:43,973
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1776
01:29:44,693 --> 01:29:46,253
Speaker 3: So how long has it been operating?

1777
01:29:46,973 --> 01:29:50,173
Speaker 23: About thirteen years now, so yeah. Kiwi Rall closed the

1778
01:29:50,293 --> 01:29:53,533
Speaker 23: line in twenty ten and a White Kadow farmer Ian Balm.

1779
01:29:53,653 --> 01:29:57,133
Speaker 23: He was the founder of Forgotten World Adventures. He turned

1780
01:29:57,133 --> 01:30:01,053
Speaker 23: the mothballed line into what has been a visionary business.

1781
01:30:01,973 --> 01:30:05,253
Speaker 23: It's now owned by Grant Ross. He's had it for

1782
01:30:05,293 --> 01:30:07,813
Speaker 23: the last three years. He's very hands on. He greets

1783
01:30:07,813 --> 01:30:10,053
Speaker 23: all the guests, he's off and out doing the excursions.

1784
01:30:10,413 --> 01:30:13,773
Speaker 23: And he's got such a fascinating backstory because Grunt was

1785
01:30:13,813 --> 01:30:17,013
Speaker 23: a professional rugby player in South Africa and France and

1786
01:30:17,213 --> 01:30:20,133
Speaker 23: also worked in television productions overseas, so he's got lots

1787
01:30:20,173 --> 01:30:23,013
Speaker 23: of yarns to share on lines. But the thing about

1788
01:30:23,053 --> 01:30:25,733
Speaker 23: it check is the track maintenance, which was one of

1789
01:30:25,773 --> 01:30:29,093
Speaker 23: the reasons Kiwi Rail called stumps back in twenty ten.

1790
01:30:29,173 --> 01:30:31,773
Speaker 23: So Grant was showing me photos from a couple of

1791
01:30:31,853 --> 01:30:34,333
Speaker 23: years ago where these massive mud slides in the King

1792
01:30:34,413 --> 01:30:37,573
Speaker 23: Country buried the entrance to some of their tunnel, so

1793
01:30:37,693 --> 01:30:41,453
Speaker 23: they literally had to just hand dig all of that

1794
01:30:41,653 --> 01:30:45,093
Speaker 23: mud out off the line. Oh wow breaking Yeah, yeah.

1795
01:30:45,253 --> 01:30:47,853
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh. Okay, yeah, that's a huge effort. So

1796
01:30:47,973 --> 01:30:50,733
Speaker 3: do you have to ride the entire line or the

1797
01:30:50,853 --> 01:30:52,013
Speaker 3: kind of options along the way.

1798
01:30:52,693 --> 01:30:55,853
Speaker 23: Yes, there are options that they do six different tours,

1799
01:30:55,973 --> 01:30:58,693
Speaker 23: so whether you're after a half day excursion, full day

1800
01:30:58,773 --> 01:31:02,773
Speaker 23: or multi day, there's something for you. I took the

1801
01:31:03,133 --> 01:31:08,333
Speaker 23: full day excursion to fung A Normana. But the thing

1802
01:31:08,453 --> 01:31:12,253
Speaker 23: about the track jack is that and there's so many

1803
01:31:12,333 --> 01:31:15,933
Speaker 23: information panels along the line. It took over thirty years

1804
01:31:16,013 --> 01:31:20,853
Speaker 23: to build this railway line, so it was originally developed

1805
01:31:20,973 --> 01:31:27,013
Speaker 23: to help get timber coal farm produce out of that

1806
01:31:27,133 --> 01:31:30,213
Speaker 23: hinterland onto the main trunk line at Tomat de Nui

1807
01:31:30,333 --> 01:31:33,013
Speaker 23: and then up to Auckland. But some of the engineering

1808
01:31:33,053 --> 01:31:36,013
Speaker 23: and you can see vestiges of this along the way.

1809
01:31:36,453 --> 01:31:41,373
Speaker 23: For example, they built these massive timber trestle via ducts

1810
01:31:42,173 --> 01:31:46,453
Speaker 23: right across the ravines. The ravines were just like too

1811
01:31:46,613 --> 01:31:50,893
Speaker 23: high to put a massive bridge across, so they built

1812
01:31:50,933 --> 01:31:54,373
Speaker 23: these timber trestle viaducts which are now overgrown on bosh,

1813
01:31:54,493 --> 01:31:56,413
Speaker 23: so you can get off your cars along the line

1814
01:31:56,853 --> 01:31:59,893
Speaker 23: and just stand on top of what beneath you are

1815
01:32:00,333 --> 01:32:04,973
Speaker 23: huge timber trestle frames. So there's just some crazy stuff

1816
01:32:05,013 --> 01:32:06,653
Speaker 23: to do if you want to. If you want to

1817
01:32:06,693 --> 01:32:09,253
Speaker 23: do the entire line to Stratford, that takes two days,

1818
01:32:09,293 --> 01:32:12,853
Speaker 23: but yeah, the full day ride funger Mormona. Highly recommend

1819
01:32:12,893 --> 01:32:14,493
Speaker 23: it and and what like.

1820
01:32:14,893 --> 01:32:16,853
Speaker 3: Talk us through a bit more funger Mormona for people

1821
01:32:16,853 --> 01:32:18,893
Speaker 3: who haven't heard about what draws people there.

1822
01:32:19,533 --> 01:32:25,653
Speaker 23: The pub basically the Wafering Hole, and it's so legendary

1823
01:32:25,853 --> 01:32:29,053
Speaker 23: and it showcases the area's history on its walls. The

1824
01:32:29,213 --> 01:32:33,173
Speaker 23: actual little town of funger Mormona looks like a movie

1825
01:32:33,293 --> 01:32:36,653
Speaker 23: set for a western. It's just crazy. But the full

1826
01:32:36,733 --> 01:32:41,773
Speaker 23: drama related to funger Mormonar ensued in the eighties when

1827
01:32:42,413 --> 01:32:46,853
Speaker 23: the town truist Strop when the local government boundary changes

1828
01:32:48,453 --> 01:32:52,813
Speaker 23: decided to put funger Mormona in Manatu as opposed to Tartanaki,

1829
01:32:52,893 --> 01:32:55,053
Speaker 23: and the locals who are in having that, so they

1830
01:32:55,133 --> 01:32:59,493
Speaker 23: declared themselves a republic, and every January they still celebrate

1831
01:32:59,573 --> 01:33:02,293
Speaker 23: Republic Day and elected presidents. You can even get your

1832
01:33:02,373 --> 01:33:06,053
Speaker 23: passport sent at the pub counter there are.

1833
01:33:05,933 --> 01:33:09,373
Speaker 3: There a lot of When you're on the rails themselves,

1834
01:33:09,373 --> 01:33:12,013
Speaker 3: there are lots of tunnels and bridges and that kind

1835
01:33:12,013 --> 01:33:12,333
Speaker 3: of stuff.

1836
01:33:12,813 --> 01:33:17,013
Speaker 23: Ah, so many, Jack, Yeah, And I mean the scenery,

1837
01:33:17,093 --> 01:33:20,773
Speaker 23: the wraparound scenery is deliriously good. But yes, ninety bridges,

1838
01:33:20,853 --> 01:33:24,893
Speaker 23: twenty four tunnels on the full ride. Most of those

1839
01:33:25,013 --> 01:33:28,333
Speaker 23: are actually on the full day from tamar Nui to

1840
01:33:28,653 --> 01:33:33,493
Speaker 23: funger Mormona. The highlight though, are those brick lined tunnels

1841
01:33:33,813 --> 01:33:38,093
Speaker 23: and they were laid by hand. So the longest tunnel

1842
01:33:38,173 --> 01:33:42,773
Speaker 23: on the line, the Okoholka Tunnel, is fifteen hundred meters long.

1843
01:33:42,853 --> 01:33:45,853
Speaker 23: It's one of New Zealand's longest tunnels. It's got three

1844
01:33:45,853 --> 01:33:48,093
Speaker 23: and a half million bricks in it and it took

1845
01:33:48,173 --> 01:33:52,813
Speaker 23: the workers eight years to build that tunnel alone. I mean,

1846
01:33:53,253 --> 01:33:57,133
Speaker 23: it's just crazy what we used to do. So yeah,

1847
01:33:57,173 --> 01:34:00,053
Speaker 23: when you're in the middle of that tunnel, that really

1848
01:34:00,253 --> 01:34:02,973
Speaker 23: is a great encounter with pitch black darkness.

1849
01:34:03,333 --> 01:34:03,573
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1850
01:34:03,853 --> 01:34:07,053
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's amazing. And what are the landscapes like around there?

1851
01:34:07,693 --> 01:34:10,653
Speaker 23: Yeah, well, the King Country. I've always been fascinated by

1852
01:34:10,853 --> 01:34:13,533
Speaker 23: this chunk of New Zealand because you can see the

1853
01:34:13,693 --> 01:34:19,293
Speaker 23: volcanic creation of the landscape all of those really tightly folded,

1854
01:34:19,493 --> 01:34:24,053
Speaker 23: steep sided hills, all created by lahars from topol and

1855
01:34:24,253 --> 01:34:29,853
Speaker 23: rukhu eruptions. So the topography is riveting. I mean those

1856
01:34:29,933 --> 01:34:32,973
Speaker 23: hills I reckon in some vantage points, they look like

1857
01:34:33,213 --> 01:34:36,653
Speaker 23: pyramids rising up from the land. An Egyptian tourist would

1858
01:34:36,693 --> 01:34:40,413
Speaker 23: be impressed in the scenery. Yeah, it's so ever changing.

1859
01:34:40,653 --> 01:34:44,093
Speaker 23: We threated our way through this magnificentative forest where the

1860
01:34:44,133 --> 01:34:48,693
Speaker 23: locally we are currently reintroducing kiweed to the bosh. You

1861
01:34:48,813 --> 01:34:52,773
Speaker 23: see towering parper cliffs rising up from the railway line.

1862
01:34:52,813 --> 01:34:54,933
Speaker 23: So yeah, it really is a banger of a trip

1863
01:34:55,533 --> 01:34:59,213
Speaker 23: clattering along those tracks. It's just such a lonely remote

1864
01:34:59,373 --> 01:35:02,253
Speaker 23: heart of the central North Island and I think every

1865
01:35:02,373 --> 01:35:03,053
Speaker 23: key we should do it.

1866
01:35:03,253 --> 01:35:07,613
Speaker 3: Yeah, sounds amazing, fantastic. Okay, what is the Forgotten World

1867
01:35:07,813 --> 01:35:09,693
Speaker 3: and the King Country. We'll put all the details for

1868
01:35:09,813 --> 01:35:11,973
Speaker 3: riding the rails through the Forgotten World up on the

1869
01:35:12,013 --> 01:35:15,213
Speaker 3: news talks. He'd be website and catch you again next week,

1870
01:35:15,293 --> 01:35:18,013
Speaker 3: hopefully a few dozen bluff oysters deep by then.

1871
01:35:18,133 --> 01:35:20,373
Speaker 23: Mote awesome, Jack, thank you.

1872
01:35:20,813 --> 01:35:24,333
Speaker 3: There is Mike Cardley. He's our travel corresponding. Here you go, Jack,

1873
01:35:24,413 --> 01:35:26,773
Speaker 3: I did the full Day, says Jen. It was just awesome.

1874
01:35:26,813 --> 01:35:28,933
Speaker 3: It was so interesting. We'll do it again soon. And

1875
01:35:29,013 --> 01:35:34,093
Speaker 3: Steve says the Forgotten Highway is effectively our Jurassic Park. Yeah,

1876
01:35:34,333 --> 01:35:36,693
Speaker 3: I think lots of New Zealand is our Jurassic Park.

1877
01:35:36,733 --> 01:35:39,373
Speaker 3: But you're right, it is kind of primordial in that sense, Steve.

1878
01:35:40,373 --> 01:35:43,653
Speaker 3: And regarding mone Who's apparently a good mane who won't

1879
01:35:43,693 --> 01:35:46,173
Speaker 3: hurt at least that's according to Ian. My concern isn't

1880
01:35:46,173 --> 01:35:47,693
Speaker 3: necessarily with a good mone Who, and it's with a

1881
01:35:47,733 --> 01:35:50,493
Speaker 3: bad Moneu. But if the Money World champions are diving

1882
01:35:50,533 --> 01:35:52,733
Speaker 3: off a seven meter diving board and they get quite

1883
01:35:52,773 --> 01:35:54,493
Speaker 3: a bit of elevation a when they go off, and

1884
01:35:54,973 --> 01:35:57,293
Speaker 3: you know, prepping when they're doing their mone Who's, they

1885
01:35:57,373 --> 01:35:59,813
Speaker 3: get a bit of serious bit of elevation when they

1886
01:35:59,893 --> 01:36:02,573
Speaker 3: jump off, I can imagine that. Yeah, the potential for

1887
01:36:02,613 --> 01:36:06,013
Speaker 3: things going wrong is significant. Lisa's Jack, omg. I've seen

1888
01:36:06,013 --> 01:36:07,573
Speaker 3: them doing mone Who's at the wake and I river.

1889
01:36:07,693 --> 01:36:10,013
Speaker 3: It just seems like it's all about getting into the

1890
01:36:10,053 --> 01:36:13,853
Speaker 3: fetal position. But the takeoff height really makes that spectacular

1891
01:36:14,053 --> 01:36:17,733
Speaker 3: ooh ah response. So yeah, looking forward to the images

1892
01:36:17,773 --> 01:36:21,133
Speaker 3: from the final of the of the MONU World Champs.

1893
01:36:21,453 --> 01:36:23,453
Speaker 3: Later on today, in a couple of minutes on New

1894
01:36:23,493 --> 01:36:25,293
Speaker 3: Talk ZB, we'll catch up with Jason Pine and see

1895
01:36:25,333 --> 01:36:27,893
Speaker 3: what he is planning for weekend Sport this afternoon. It's

1896
01:36:27,933 --> 01:36:29,013
Speaker 3: just coming up till eleven.

1897
01:36:28,813 --> 01:36:36,373
Speaker 1: Thirty, getting your weekend started. It's Saturday Morning with Jack

1898
01:36:36,493 --> 01:36:39,053
Speaker 1: Team on NEWSTALKSB.

1899
01:36:55,453 --> 01:36:58,253
Speaker 3: New Stalks with Jack Tam Just gone eleven thirty on

1900
01:36:58,413 --> 01:37:00,893
Speaker 3: your Saturday morning. Jason Pine behind the mic for weekend

1901
01:37:00,973 --> 01:37:04,053
Speaker 3: Sport this afternoon, and it's the first weekend I think

1902
01:37:04,093 --> 01:37:09,413
Speaker 3: where we have superb A League and proper season NRL underway.

1903
01:37:09,533 --> 01:37:12,853
Speaker 24: Indeed, hey Jack, Yeah, it's the collision of the seasons

1904
01:37:12,893 --> 01:37:13,973
Speaker 24: and it's going to be like this for a couple

1905
01:37:14,013 --> 01:37:16,253
Speaker 24: of months, isn't it. ALEI doesn't finish still back end

1906
01:37:16,293 --> 01:37:17,973
Speaker 24: of May, and we expect Auckland f C to go

1907
01:37:18,053 --> 01:37:20,373
Speaker 24: deep into it, as you say, NRL for the next

1908
01:37:20,613 --> 01:37:23,093
Speaker 24: several months. So we're only into round three of Super Rugby.

1909
01:37:23,213 --> 01:37:26,413
Speaker 24: So everywhere you look, they're a sport on and that's

1910
01:37:27,013 --> 01:37:29,333
Speaker 24: before you even start looking at the New Zealand Golf Open,

1911
01:37:29,413 --> 01:37:32,013
Speaker 24: the black Caps playing in the Champions Trophy and much

1912
01:37:32,093 --> 01:37:33,173
Speaker 24: more besides.

1913
01:37:32,893 --> 01:37:35,253
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, okay, let's start off with Super Rugby. I

1914
01:37:35,653 --> 01:37:37,933
Speaker 3: made the call last night to switch off the Highlanders

1915
01:37:37,973 --> 01:37:41,253
Speaker 3: more Una Pacifica in favor of your beloved Phoenix, and

1916
01:37:41,373 --> 01:37:43,613
Speaker 3: you're a fantastic call. I did then go back and

1917
01:37:43,653 --> 01:37:45,533
Speaker 3: watch the replay of the second half, and we have

1918
01:37:45,613 --> 01:37:47,013
Speaker 3: to concede. Even though I chose to watch the A

1919
01:37:47,133 --> 01:37:50,093
Speaker 3: League live. The Super Rugby was probably ultimately the better game. Yeah,

1920
01:37:50,213 --> 01:37:52,653
Speaker 3: very close in the end. It was, I mean thirty

1921
01:37:52,693 --> 01:37:53,453
Speaker 3: one ten at a half time.

1922
01:37:53,493 --> 01:37:55,813
Speaker 24: The Highlanders probably think okay, we've got this yep, even

1923
01:37:55,853 --> 01:37:58,453
Speaker 24: away from home at Albany. But yeah, more on a

1924
01:37:58,453 --> 01:38:00,853
Speaker 24: PACIFICA show that they've got a bit about them. They

1925
01:38:01,253 --> 01:38:03,573
Speaker 24: don't seem to have any trouble scoring points. Jack. That's

1926
01:38:04,253 --> 01:38:06,533
Speaker 24: one hundred and nine points and three games now, So

1927
01:38:06,613 --> 01:38:08,213
Speaker 24: that doesn't tell the tale of a team that finds

1928
01:38:08,253 --> 01:38:10,773
Speaker 24: it difficult to score tries. It's the other end, obviously,

1929
01:38:10,933 --> 01:38:13,853
Speaker 24: it's the concession of points. Particularly, I mean, you leave

1930
01:38:13,893 --> 01:38:16,053
Speaker 24: yourself a lot of work to do at thirty one

1931
01:38:16,173 --> 01:38:19,133
Speaker 24: ten down. Yes they almost got there, but they'd want

1932
01:38:19,173 --> 01:38:21,253
Speaker 24: to stop doing that so often. But I think there

1933
01:38:21,293 --> 01:38:23,533
Speaker 24: are green shoots of promise in this more wider Pacificate

1934
01:38:23,613 --> 01:38:26,133
Speaker 24: team obviously having Ardie Savia there's always going to help,

1935
01:38:26,173 --> 01:38:28,133
Speaker 24: but he can't do it all by himself. They're an

1936
01:38:28,213 --> 01:38:30,693
Speaker 24: enjoyable watch, though, as are the Highlanders. I have to

1937
01:38:30,733 --> 01:38:34,333
Speaker 24: say this season. Yeah, especially after last week, I mean

1938
01:38:34,373 --> 01:38:39,093
Speaker 24: anybody apart from that, everybody enjoyed it, apart from Blues fans,

1939
01:38:39,133 --> 01:38:41,733
Speaker 24: and that's interesting as well. The Blues zero and two

1940
01:38:42,053 --> 01:38:44,173
Speaker 24: go to sky Stadium tonight to take on the Hurricanes,

1941
01:38:44,213 --> 01:38:46,893
Speaker 24: who are one and one. Haven't necessarily set the world

1942
01:38:46,933 --> 01:38:49,293
Speaker 24: on fire this year. The Blues wouldn't want to be

1943
01:38:49,333 --> 01:38:52,413
Speaker 24: oh and three. No, I mean they may not be,

1944
01:38:52,613 --> 01:38:55,773
Speaker 24: but yeah, there's a little bit of pressure coming on

1945
01:38:55,853 --> 01:38:58,613
Speaker 24: to the Blues. The defending champions yep aukand if top

1946
01:38:58,653 --> 01:39:01,493
Speaker 24: of the table clash against Adelaide this evening, and so

1947
01:39:01,693 --> 01:39:04,533
Speaker 24: if Auckland does win this game, and it's a big

1948
01:39:04,573 --> 01:39:07,693
Speaker 24: if because Madley's tricky opponent, but if they get ahead here,

1949
01:39:07,973 --> 01:39:10,573
Speaker 24: you would sort of think that they're gonna probably finish

1950
01:39:10,853 --> 01:39:12,773
Speaker 24: top of the table come the end of the regular season, right.

1951
01:39:12,893 --> 01:39:13,093
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1952
01:39:13,093 --> 01:39:15,893
Speaker 24: A win tonight takes them ten points clear with eight

1953
01:39:15,933 --> 01:39:19,813
Speaker 24: games to go. Even Adelaide coach already sorry, Melbourne City

1954
01:39:19,893 --> 01:39:22,413
Speaker 24: coach Alredia Vidmar last night after the game against the

1955
01:39:22,453 --> 01:39:24,773
Speaker 24: Phoenix said look, I don't think anybody's catching Auckland f C.

1956
01:39:25,053 --> 01:39:27,253
Speaker 24: He made that claim with eight games to go. Look,

1957
01:39:27,293 --> 01:39:29,213
Speaker 24: there are still plenty of points left to play for,

1958
01:39:29,333 --> 01:39:31,533
Speaker 24: but Auckland f C are just so difficult to beat

1959
01:39:31,573 --> 01:39:34,653
Speaker 24: at home and have started to well haven't started to.

1960
01:39:34,733 --> 01:39:36,373
Speaker 24: They've they've been pretty good on the road as well,

1961
01:39:36,533 --> 01:39:39,813
Speaker 24: So look, it really is theirs to lose. You're right,

1962
01:39:39,813 --> 01:39:41,733
Speaker 24: Adelaide are a good team and a good team away

1963
01:39:41,773 --> 01:39:45,653
Speaker 24: from home. So look, it would be hard to bet

1964
01:39:45,693 --> 01:39:47,533
Speaker 24: against Auckland f C in the form that they're in.

1965
01:39:47,773 --> 01:39:49,453
Speaker 24: But you know, it was only a month ago that

1966
01:39:49,533 --> 01:39:52,933
Speaker 24: Adelaide united wild with a whisker of beating Auckland in

1967
01:39:53,013 --> 01:39:57,293
Speaker 24: Adelaide before a ninety ninth minute headed goal from Logan Rogerson.

1968
01:39:57,413 --> 01:39:59,573
Speaker 24: So look, I think there'll be another great occasion out there.

1969
01:39:59,613 --> 01:40:01,493
Speaker 24: They've brought the circus and jack, I'm not sure you've

1970
01:40:01,573 --> 01:40:04,613
Speaker 24: seen this. There's a Fairest wheel and go meet yap,

1971
01:40:04,693 --> 01:40:07,613
Speaker 24: a fairest wheel and and those tea cups that you

1972
01:40:07,693 --> 01:40:10,693
Speaker 24: can soon and go around in candy floss popcorn.

1973
01:40:11,133 --> 01:40:14,093
Speaker 3: Bringing the circus to go media this up. Okay, well

1974
01:40:14,133 --> 01:40:15,973
Speaker 3: I'll be there. It'll be exciting. So what's on the

1975
01:40:16,013 --> 01:40:17,053
Speaker 3: show this sur Well.

1976
01:40:16,893 --> 01:40:19,293
Speaker 24: We're going to talk about Auckland FC and Super Rugby,

1977
01:40:19,373 --> 01:40:20,933
Speaker 24: but want to lead off with the big rugby news

1978
01:40:20,933 --> 01:40:23,573
Speaker 24: of the week, which is Clayton McMillan leaving the chiefs Now.

1979
01:40:23,733 --> 01:40:25,773
Speaker 24: Is this an issue for New Zealand rugby? Are they

1980
01:40:25,853 --> 01:40:28,773
Speaker 24: worried about losing more of our top coaches overseas when

1981
01:40:28,813 --> 01:40:31,773
Speaker 24: there's really only one top job and that job isn't

1982
01:40:31,813 --> 01:40:34,693
Speaker 24: open at the moment because Razor has got it. Chris

1983
01:40:34,813 --> 01:40:37,653
Speaker 24: Lendrum is the head of the professional game in New Zealand.

1984
01:40:37,653 --> 01:40:38,813
Speaker 24: He's going to have a chat to us about that.

1985
01:40:39,053 --> 01:40:42,733
Speaker 24: We'll go to Vegas and preview the the NRL season

1986
01:40:42,813 --> 01:40:44,413
Speaker 24: opening matches tomorrow.

1987
01:40:44,573 --> 01:40:46,053
Speaker 3: Is it's going to be live, You've got to be

1988
01:40:46,133 --> 01:40:48,893
Speaker 3: careful doing live experience.

1989
01:40:49,253 --> 01:40:52,653
Speaker 24: To Vegas always a bit fraught with peril. We may

1990
01:40:53,093 --> 01:40:55,533
Speaker 24: we may go into into slight delay at that point.

1991
01:40:55,853 --> 01:40:57,853
Speaker 24: And lots from the New Zealand open as well, including

1992
01:40:57,893 --> 01:41:00,773
Speaker 24: couple of the Ambassadors Ricky Ponting Richie McCaw both on

1993
01:41:00,813 --> 01:41:01,613
Speaker 24: the show this afternoon.

1994
01:41:02,333 --> 01:41:05,013
Speaker 3: Fantastic looking forward to that. Thank you sir, enjoy the

1995
01:41:05,053 --> 01:41:07,973
Speaker 3: other enjoy the game. This afternoon, Jason Pine with us

1996
01:41:08,253 --> 01:41:11,253
Speaker 3: for weekend Sport. Right after the midday news before twelve o'clock,

1997
01:41:11,253 --> 01:41:13,453
Speaker 3: we're going to play you some of That's Life Baby,

1998
01:41:14,053 --> 01:41:17,613
Speaker 3: which is the latest album from Kiwi Duo Foley. Next up,

1999
01:41:17,653 --> 01:41:19,253
Speaker 3: we've got your book picks for this weekend.

2000
01:41:19,973 --> 01:41:24,213
Speaker 1: Saturday Morning with Jack Team fulk Show podcast on iHeartRadio

2001
01:41:24,493 --> 01:41:27,293
Speaker 1: powered by News Talk ZEDB twenty.

2002
01:41:27,053 --> 01:41:29,773
Speaker 3: Three to twelve on News talksz'b our book reviewer is

2003
01:41:29,973 --> 01:41:32,973
Speaker 3: Katherine Rains. Every Saturday, she picks a couple of reads

2004
01:41:33,013 --> 01:41:35,413
Speaker 3: for our weekend, and she's with us now. Calder Catherine

2005
01:41:35,693 --> 01:41:38,373
Speaker 3: Morning Jack. Okay, let's start off with book number one

2006
01:41:38,453 --> 01:41:41,733
Speaker 3: for this weekend. Tell us About Three Days in June

2007
01:41:41,933 --> 01:41:42,893
Speaker 3: by Ann Tyler.

2008
01:41:43,533 --> 01:41:46,733
Speaker 15: So, Gail Banes is this administrator at a girls school

2009
01:41:46,773 --> 01:41:50,413
Speaker 15: on Baltimore, and one Friday morning towards the end of

2010
01:41:50,453 --> 01:41:52,813
Speaker 15: the year, the headmistress calls her into the main office

2011
01:41:52,973 --> 01:41:54,973
Speaker 15: to let her know that she's going to be away

2012
01:41:55,013 --> 01:41:59,093
Speaker 15: the following Monday, and she should probably mention that Gail

2013
01:41:59,093 --> 01:42:01,533
Speaker 15: won't have a job next year. So Gail, at the

2014
01:42:01,573 --> 01:42:03,973
Speaker 15: age of sixty one, just leaves. She just walks out

2015
01:42:04,013 --> 01:42:06,133
Speaker 15: of the school without even cleaning the desk and drives

2016
01:42:06,173 --> 01:42:08,973
Speaker 15: home and amidst all of the sort of chaos of

2017
01:42:09,013 --> 01:42:11,253
Speaker 15: what's going on with her, her daughter's about to get married,

2018
01:42:11,373 --> 01:42:13,693
Speaker 15: and her ex husband Max shows up on the doorstep

2019
01:42:13,813 --> 01:42:15,853
Speaker 15: randomly with a cat and needs a place to stay.

2020
01:42:16,453 --> 01:42:20,853
Speaker 15: And Gail is this mildly eccentric character. And you follow

2021
01:42:20,893 --> 01:42:24,733
Speaker 15: her over three days before the day of her daughter's

2022
01:42:24,773 --> 01:42:28,213
Speaker 15: wedding and the day after and this, you know, there's

2023
01:42:28,253 --> 01:42:30,333
Speaker 15: lots of past events that get called up, and you

2024
01:42:30,453 --> 01:42:34,133
Speaker 15: see her habits and behaviorism, where she's in her headspace

2025
01:42:34,213 --> 01:42:36,573
Speaker 15: and her choices, and it's told in her voice, and

2026
01:42:36,653 --> 01:42:39,693
Speaker 15: you really understand her and her honesty and frankness, and

2027
01:42:39,813 --> 01:42:42,013
Speaker 15: what you see is what you get. And it's her

2028
01:42:42,093 --> 01:42:45,173
Speaker 15: story love and heartbreak and her humor. And it's beautifully written.

2029
01:42:45,253 --> 01:42:47,653
Speaker 15: And it's a character driven novel with a little humor

2030
01:42:47,733 --> 01:42:48,373
Speaker 15: and nostalgia.

2031
01:42:48,773 --> 01:42:51,453
Speaker 3: Great, Okay, this sounds cool. So that's by Anne Tyler.

2032
01:42:51,693 --> 01:42:54,533
Speaker 3: It's called Three Days in June. You've also read the

2033
01:42:54,653 --> 01:42:58,133
Speaker 3: sequel by Jene half Corlitz, So this is.

2034
01:42:58,173 --> 01:43:00,453
Speaker 15: Book two in a series, and you can read the

2035
01:43:00,533 --> 01:43:03,973
Speaker 15: seatquel as a standalone, but I actually recommend that you

2036
01:43:04,173 --> 01:43:07,613
Speaker 15: read the plot, which is the first book, first, because

2037
01:43:07,653 --> 01:43:09,773
Speaker 15: in there you meet Jay KiB finch Boner, who's the

2038
01:43:09,813 --> 01:43:12,413
Speaker 15: struggling author and he's teaching and writing in a community

2039
01:43:12,453 --> 01:43:16,013
Speaker 15: college and he comes across a student story plot with

2040
01:43:16,093 --> 01:43:19,573
Speaker 15: a brilliant idea, and a student dies, and he decides

2041
01:43:19,653 --> 01:43:21,733
Speaker 15: to use this plot as his own best selling novel,

2042
01:43:21,813 --> 01:43:24,093
Speaker 15: and that's where the start of the plot ends. And then,

2043
01:43:24,133 --> 01:43:26,093
Speaker 15: of course, the sequels at the end of the plot,

2044
01:43:26,533 --> 01:43:28,733
Speaker 15: and so without spoiling what happens at the end of

2045
01:43:28,813 --> 01:43:31,133
Speaker 15: that and what happens in the sequel, you take one

2046
01:43:31,173 --> 01:43:33,173
Speaker 15: of the characters out of that first novel and they

2047
01:43:33,253 --> 01:43:36,373
Speaker 15: take the Spotlight and it happens to be his wife,

2048
01:43:36,573 --> 01:43:38,733
Speaker 15: and she's now a best selling author in her own

2049
01:43:38,813 --> 01:43:41,373
Speaker 15: right and life couldn't be better. And then she gets

2050
01:43:41,413 --> 01:43:45,533
Speaker 15: this very unwelcome blast for the past. And this manuscript

2051
01:43:45,813 --> 01:43:48,453
Speaker 15: is still floating around and someone sending pages not just

2052
01:43:48,573 --> 01:43:50,733
Speaker 15: to her but in laws and the editor, and she's

2053
01:43:50,813 --> 01:43:53,613
Speaker 15: trying to keep some very dark secrets under wraps, and

2054
01:43:53,653 --> 01:43:58,533
Speaker 15: there's lots of twists. She's Anna herself is a pretty

2055
01:43:58,613 --> 01:44:02,093
Speaker 15: interesting character, not the nicest, but she doesn't want to

2056
01:44:02,133 --> 01:44:04,453
Speaker 15: risk anything to destroy the perfect life she's built. So

2057
01:44:04,773 --> 01:44:07,813
Speaker 15: that's where it starts. The author also manages to bring

2058
01:44:07,853 --> 01:44:11,133
Speaker 15: in some great literary humor. Each of the chapters is

2059
01:44:11,213 --> 01:44:13,573
Speaker 15: titled as a well known sequel, such as The Testaments,

2060
01:44:13,573 --> 01:44:16,213
Speaker 15: which is the sequel to Their Handmaiden's Tale. And there's

2061
01:44:16,253 --> 01:44:20,213
Speaker 15: lots of puns about spink sequels and publishing, but actually

2062
01:44:20,293 --> 01:44:23,853
Speaker 15: the story's mystery and the surprising conclusion and the unexpected

2063
01:44:23,933 --> 01:44:25,613
Speaker 15: terms of what really pays off in this book, and

2064
01:44:26,013 --> 01:44:27,493
Speaker 15: I highly recommend both of them.

2065
01:44:27,653 --> 01:44:29,573
Speaker 3: Nice, Okay, this sounds really good. I really like the

2066
01:44:29,613 --> 01:44:31,453
Speaker 3: sound of that. So that's the sequel by gene have

2067
01:44:31,933 --> 01:44:34,573
Speaker 3: Armp correlates and your first book is Three Days in

2068
01:44:34,653 --> 01:44:36,933
Speaker 3: June by An Tyler. I'm glad, Catherine that the sequel

2069
01:44:36,973 --> 01:44:38,693
Speaker 3: is indeed a sequel, Otherwise that could have been able

2070
01:44:38,693 --> 01:44:40,933
Speaker 3: to confusing. It could be, but there was the first

2071
01:44:40,973 --> 01:44:43,653
Speaker 3: in the series that would really really throw a span

2072
01:44:43,773 --> 01:44:45,613
Speaker 3: in the works, wouldn't It Sure would.

2073
01:44:45,653 --> 01:44:47,493
Speaker 15: But I like the titles, I like the plot, and

2074
01:44:47,613 --> 01:44:50,093
Speaker 15: now the sequel. I really hope there's a third, and

2075
01:44:50,213 --> 01:44:51,933
Speaker 15: I'm really curious to see what it will be. It

2076
01:44:52,013 --> 01:44:53,413
Speaker 15: has to be a trilogy somewhere right.

2077
01:44:53,653 --> 01:44:56,013
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I think so, I think so. Hey, I've

2078
01:44:56,013 --> 01:44:57,733
Speaker 3: got a recommendation for you two. Have just finished it

2079
01:44:57,813 --> 01:45:00,653
Speaker 3: this week. Africa is Not a Country. So you know

2080
01:45:00,733 --> 01:45:02,493
Speaker 3: that I love reading nonfiction books. I'm a bit of

2081
01:45:02,533 --> 01:45:04,813
Speaker 3: a shocker. Really, I've got to expand and really few

2082
01:45:04,853 --> 01:45:07,333
Speaker 3: more fiction books. But yeah, I was given Africa Is

2083
01:45:07,413 --> 01:45:10,533
Speaker 3: Not a Country a few weeks ago. Basically, it's kind

2084
01:45:10,533 --> 01:45:15,413
Speaker 3: of like a just a book challenging kind of stereotypes

2085
01:45:15,453 --> 01:45:20,133
Speaker 3: around Africa and African development and you know, making fun

2086
01:45:20,213 --> 01:45:22,293
Speaker 3: of the fact that often the continent is treated as

2087
01:45:22,333 --> 01:45:27,693
Speaker 3: a country but actually has incredible diversity and you know,

2088
01:45:28,373 --> 01:45:31,613
Speaker 3: diversity of landscapes, people, languages, food, all that kind of stuff.

2089
01:45:31,653 --> 01:45:34,493
Speaker 3: So Africa Is Not a Country is my recommendation that

2090
01:45:34,573 --> 01:45:37,213
Speaker 3: I will throw in the mix as well. Thank you

2091
01:45:37,293 --> 01:45:39,453
Speaker 3: so much, Catherine. We will catch you again next week.

2092
01:45:39,613 --> 01:45:42,573
Speaker 3: Katherin Rain's our book reviewer. There Three Days in June

2093
01:45:42,813 --> 01:45:45,453
Speaker 3: by Ann Tyler was her first book. The sequel by

2094
01:45:45,573 --> 01:45:48,693
Speaker 3: Gene Hump Corralitz was her second, and both of those

2095
01:45:48,733 --> 01:45:51,533
Speaker 3: will be up on the news Talk ZEDB website.

2096
01:45:51,333 --> 01:45:53,933
Speaker 2: Giving you the inside scoop on All you need to Know.

2097
01:45:54,133 --> 01:45:57,293
Speaker 1: Saturday Mornings with Jack Dame and BPWRE dot co dot

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Speaker 1: nz for high quality supplements.

2099
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Speaker 2: US talks Best.

2100
01:46:23,413 --> 01:46:27,013
Speaker 3: This is the Key with duo Foley. The song is

2101
01:46:27,093 --> 01:46:30,973
Speaker 3: called never Feels Like Summer, kind of dreamy sounding. A

2102
01:46:31,893 --> 01:46:33,973
Speaker 3: got a new album. The album is called That's Life

2103
01:46:34,053 --> 01:46:38,253
Speaker 3: Baby and the Stelle Clifford, our music reviewer, has been listening.

2104
01:46:38,693 --> 01:46:42,253
Speaker 3: Good morning, Calder, what a beautiful song. Ah, you're very

2105
01:46:42,573 --> 01:46:44,973
Speaker 3: very like kind of yeah, don't you think, kind of dreamy?

2106
01:46:45,093 --> 01:46:45,293
Speaker 4: Yeah.

2107
01:46:45,373 --> 01:46:48,533
Speaker 21: Well, Ash, who is the lead singer of Foley. She

2108
01:46:48,973 --> 01:46:51,213
Speaker 21: she's like, this is our pure love song. This is

2109
01:46:51,253 --> 01:46:53,573
Speaker 21: the song where you know, there's nothing We're not taking

2110
01:46:53,613 --> 01:46:57,133
Speaker 21: the mickey, We're just actually embracing it and being in love.

2111
01:46:57,293 --> 01:46:59,293
Speaker 21: It's not the beginning of a relationship at the end.

2112
01:46:59,373 --> 01:47:01,053
Speaker 20: It's just this is where love is.

2113
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Speaker 21: And a little surprised because this is actually how the

2114
01:47:04,173 --> 01:47:05,013
Speaker 21: album finishes.

2115
01:47:05,093 --> 01:47:06,093
Speaker 3: This is the final song.

2116
01:47:06,533 --> 01:47:09,893
Speaker 21: And I loved it because Gabe sings a verse on

2117
01:47:09,973 --> 01:47:12,413
Speaker 21: it as well, and he's kind of so he's usually

2118
01:47:12,453 --> 01:47:15,253
Speaker 21: the music maestro, but every now and then he Pep

2119
01:47:15,253 --> 01:47:17,053
Speaker 21: has a little song where he will do the lead

2120
01:47:17,133 --> 01:47:19,293
Speaker 21: vocals or he'll come in and do his little part,

2121
01:47:19,973 --> 01:47:23,373
Speaker 21: and it's a really beautiful way to just sum up

2122
01:47:23,453 --> 01:47:27,013
Speaker 21: and finish wrap up the entire album, and it's just

2123
01:47:27,093 --> 01:47:29,293
Speaker 21: a little like a little treats a little surprise at

2124
01:47:29,333 --> 01:47:30,733
Speaker 21: the end of the album, which I think is a

2125
01:47:30,733 --> 01:47:33,373
Speaker 21: really beautiful thing to do. And then you're gonna completely

2126
01:47:33,493 --> 01:47:35,973
Speaker 21: change this because once I finished chatting, you're gonna play

2127
01:47:36,413 --> 01:47:39,973
Speaker 21: the title track, which is That's Life Baby, which has

2128
01:47:40,053 --> 01:47:42,813
Speaker 21: become like one of those catchphrases you know, when something

2129
01:47:42,853 --> 01:47:48,333
Speaker 21: happens you're like, wow, that's and it's a real catchy,

2130
01:47:49,253 --> 01:47:51,653
Speaker 21: like a real awesome hook that gets you back in,

2131
01:47:52,133 --> 01:47:57,213
Speaker 21: and it's got that real energetic, fun synth pop thing

2132
01:47:57,293 --> 01:47:59,813
Speaker 21: that I think fully are not well for, but with

2133
01:47:59,973 --> 01:48:03,653
Speaker 21: more confidence. And I'm just I love these two. I

2134
01:48:03,813 --> 01:48:05,573
Speaker 21: have kind of followed them right from the get go.

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Speaker 21: I've had lots of long, fun chats with them, and

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Speaker 21: they're really open about sharing their music journey and how

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01:48:12,813 --> 01:48:15,813
Speaker 21: they come to a song and put it all together.

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Speaker 21: And I think I enjoy following them as well because

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Speaker 21: together is a friendship. They're just such a dynamic duo

2140
01:48:22,653 --> 01:48:24,973
Speaker 21: and you can hear that in their music, so it's exciting,

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Speaker 21: I think to hear what they're doing with their tunes.

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Speaker 3: Because they met performing at Rockquest, right or competing Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and see.

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Speaker 21: That's why we have to make sure that we still

2145
01:48:36,253 --> 01:48:40,413
Speaker 21: race those competitions, yes, because it really has actually really

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01:48:40,453 --> 01:48:42,933
Speaker 21: helped a lot of our musicians with the foundations and

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01:48:43,093 --> 01:48:46,253
Speaker 21: coming together. I watched a live video that they did

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Speaker 21: yesterday on the launch of the album, but in particular

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Speaker 21: for the music video that's for That's Life Baby. They're

2150
01:48:51,893 --> 01:48:55,133
Speaker 21: cruising in this old school car. It was someone's Manners car.

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01:48:55,533 --> 01:48:58,493
Speaker 21: They had one owner and it was a manual, so

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01:48:58,773 --> 01:49:01,733
Speaker 21: Gabe had to drive. But it was funny because they

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01:49:01,733 --> 01:49:03,893
Speaker 21: told the story about how they went out to Mooda

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01:49:04,053 --> 01:49:07,413
Speaker 21: Y to shoot it, thinking like, you know, deserted beach

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01:49:07,773 --> 01:49:10,053
Speaker 21: out in the west, and instead there's like two hundred

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01:49:10,093 --> 01:49:12,493
Speaker 21: people there, like in the evening, and they're like, what

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01:49:12,693 --> 01:49:14,813
Speaker 21: the heck, they're all there to watch one of the comets,

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01:49:14,893 --> 01:49:18,693
Speaker 21: you know, the inion years. So actually they've ended up

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01:49:18,693 --> 01:49:21,293
Speaker 21: with all these people in the background of this music video,

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01:49:21,573 --> 01:49:24,413
Speaker 21: which again goes with the song That's Life Baby. Oh well,

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01:49:25,293 --> 01:49:27,133
Speaker 21: now all these people are your extras in the back of.

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Speaker 19: Your music video.

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Speaker 21: And I think again they're the kind of artists that

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01:49:31,133 --> 01:49:33,573
Speaker 21: will just embrace that and use that as an energy

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01:49:34,213 --> 01:49:36,053
Speaker 21: to propel what it is that they do, and so

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01:49:36,413 --> 01:49:39,213
Speaker 21: again it creates this dynamic. They thought they had this

2167
01:49:39,333 --> 01:49:41,853
Speaker 21: thing for a music video and it becomes so much more. Yeah,

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01:49:42,453 --> 01:49:44,413
Speaker 21: but they're really good at moving with that, and I

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01:49:44,453 --> 01:49:47,293
Speaker 21: think that's something that will be really good for them

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01:49:47,493 --> 01:49:49,653
Speaker 21: as they further their career. So they've actually they've moved

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01:49:49,693 --> 01:49:52,653
Speaker 21: to Sydney now they're based over there. They've got like

2172
01:49:52,733 --> 01:49:55,653
Speaker 21: a this is inside scoop. They've got a booking agent,

2173
01:49:55,933 --> 01:49:58,533
Speaker 21: which just means there's someone who is really promoting and

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01:49:58,653 --> 01:50:02,533
Speaker 21: working hard on getting those live gigs, because again, I

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01:50:02,613 --> 01:50:04,773
Speaker 21: think the kind of music that's on here, you get

2176
01:50:04,773 --> 01:50:09,053
Speaker 21: these really big old sounds and then you get those beautiful,

2177
01:50:09,133 --> 01:50:12,573
Speaker 21: dreamy kind of things. So to know, like to have

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01:50:12,653 --> 01:50:15,813
Speaker 21: a chance to play those live and get that audience reaction,

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01:50:15,973 --> 01:50:17,813
Speaker 21: I think to do more of those live gigs. They're

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01:50:17,813 --> 01:50:20,533
Speaker 21: going on a big Australian tour. To have someone who's

2181
01:50:20,533 --> 01:50:22,773
Speaker 21: focused on that part of your career, I think it's

2182
01:50:22,773 --> 01:50:25,613
Speaker 21: really exciting for them to take it to that next step,

2183
01:50:26,253 --> 01:50:29,173
Speaker 21: always knowing that their feet are grounded here and but

2184
01:50:30,333 --> 01:50:31,733
Speaker 21: you know, you've got to be able to spread your

2185
01:50:31,773 --> 01:50:33,893
Speaker 21: wings and they've got this great music to do it,

2186
01:50:34,373 --> 01:50:36,733
Speaker 21: some real cool pop stuff on here. There was one song,

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01:50:36,813 --> 01:50:39,173
Speaker 21: it's called Fever. I don't know what they'll think of

2188
01:50:39,253 --> 01:50:40,973
Speaker 21: me saying this, but it kind of gave me Gloria

2189
01:50:41,133 --> 01:50:42,013
Speaker 21: Estefan vibes.

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01:50:42,093 --> 01:50:44,333
Speaker 3: Okay, you know how she's always.

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01:50:44,053 --> 01:50:48,813
Speaker 21: Had like sort of like sounds, like real cool, catchy

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01:50:48,853 --> 01:50:52,133
Speaker 21: pop stuff with like just some of these sounds in

2193
01:50:52,213 --> 01:50:55,413
Speaker 21: the in the production where it's just it kind of

2194
01:50:55,453 --> 01:50:57,973
Speaker 21: makes me have that sort of happy like energy. I

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01:50:57,973 --> 01:50:59,693
Speaker 21: don't know, I keep saying energy. There's a lot of

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01:50:59,813 --> 01:51:02,093
Speaker 21: energy in this album, but it's sort of magical and

2197
01:51:02,213 --> 01:51:03,293
Speaker 21: beautiful at the same time.

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01:51:03,453 --> 01:51:06,813
Speaker 3: And yeah, I think of them as being I think

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01:51:06,853 --> 01:51:09,973
Speaker 3: of them as being like poppy, but also there is

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01:51:10,053 --> 01:51:13,693
Speaker 3: a slight like there is a kind of nostalgic vein

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01:51:13,853 --> 01:51:15,933
Speaker 3: through it, right, like a kind of an eighties kind

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01:51:15,933 --> 01:51:16,893
Speaker 3: of thing through it as well.

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01:51:17,533 --> 01:51:20,613
Speaker 21: Definitely influenced from that synth pop era, which I guess

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01:51:20,693 --> 01:51:22,493
Speaker 21: is why maybe I felt sort of glorious to find

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01:51:22,533 --> 01:51:24,653
Speaker 21: about one or two of the tracks. But then there's

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01:51:24,693 --> 01:51:27,933
Speaker 21: that sort of modern production that comes in with different

2207
01:51:28,013 --> 01:51:32,413
Speaker 21: sort of bass and drums, and that sort of changes

2208
01:51:32,453 --> 01:51:34,013
Speaker 21: it to make it sort of had that modern twist,

2209
01:51:34,213 --> 01:51:36,533
Speaker 21: and maybe we're just the eighties seems to be a

2210
01:51:36,613 --> 01:51:38,933
Speaker 21: decade that none of us can ever escape, you know,

2211
01:51:39,013 --> 01:51:40,813
Speaker 21: whether you're in it or not. Like it's something that

2212
01:51:40,973 --> 01:51:42,773
Speaker 21: just really seems to sit with a lot of people

2213
01:51:42,813 --> 01:51:47,733
Speaker 21: in the music, which is on a story, honest, fun songs,

2214
01:51:47,853 --> 01:51:49,773
Speaker 21: right Like, maybe every now and then, we just need

2215
01:51:49,813 --> 01:51:50,253
Speaker 21: to be able.

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01:51:50,093 --> 01:51:52,613
Speaker 3: To have that, yeah, yeah, and maybe the kind of

2217
01:51:52,693 --> 01:51:56,093
Speaker 3: unapologetically pop sound, you know, like they're going for that,

2218
01:51:56,213 --> 01:51:59,013
Speaker 3: not the necessarily bubblegum pop, but going for that, especially

2219
01:51:59,093 --> 01:52:03,053
Speaker 3: with the kind of being the early iterations of electronic

2220
01:52:03,173 --> 01:52:05,773
Speaker 3: music as well, you know, and all of that.

2221
01:52:06,413 --> 01:52:08,853
Speaker 21: We've only got better at producing those sounds, right Yeah.

2222
01:52:09,253 --> 01:52:11,413
Speaker 21: Now they're kind of slack and fun and they can

2223
01:52:11,453 --> 01:52:13,373
Speaker 21: do a little bit of playful stuff in there. And

2224
01:52:13,453 --> 01:52:15,893
Speaker 21: I think also like there's two rite quite vulnerable sort

2225
01:52:15,893 --> 01:52:19,533
Speaker 21: of songs. They're quite honest, personal storytelling. Ash talks a

2226
01:52:19,573 --> 01:52:21,453
Speaker 21: lot about making up songs sitting on the bus and

2227
01:52:21,653 --> 01:52:23,373
Speaker 21: you know, singing quietly into her phone.

2228
01:52:24,773 --> 01:52:25,413
Speaker 8: So they've got that.

2229
01:52:25,493 --> 01:52:28,693
Speaker 21: Vulnerability and storytelling, but also they want to have like

2230
01:52:28,773 --> 01:52:31,493
Speaker 21: this optimistic outlook. They don't want to leave you hanging

2231
01:52:31,613 --> 01:52:35,853
Speaker 21: with the down bars. Yeah, that's live baby, and so

2232
01:52:35,973 --> 01:52:37,973
Speaker 21: again I guess that leans into that pop kind of

2233
01:52:38,053 --> 01:52:39,773
Speaker 21: way of things. You know, we're going to talk about

2234
01:52:40,213 --> 01:52:42,173
Speaker 21: the lows and highs and the trauma of life, but

2235
01:52:42,293 --> 01:52:44,533
Speaker 21: actually there's there's hope at the other end of that.

2236
01:52:44,733 --> 01:52:46,613
Speaker 21: So let's keep it with that bright sort of sound.

2237
01:52:46,693 --> 01:52:49,093
Speaker 21: And this is a very bright sounding album, whether it

2238
01:52:49,213 --> 01:52:52,253
Speaker 21: is the beautiful love song ballady type things or you're

2239
01:52:52,293 --> 01:52:54,773
Speaker 21: going full dance mode. And I think some of that

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01:52:54,973 --> 01:52:57,053
Speaker 21: is going to go crazy when they go live.

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01:52:57,133 --> 01:52:58,573
Speaker 3: Have you seen them before.

2242
01:52:59,533 --> 01:53:02,253
Speaker 21: Only an acoustic set that they did like a little showcase,

2243
01:53:03,133 --> 01:53:04,933
Speaker 21: which was still beautiful and amazing.

2244
01:53:05,053 --> 01:53:08,933
Speaker 3: But pop being, isn't it. Yeah Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

2245
01:53:08,973 --> 01:53:13,813
Speaker 3: sweety underground, yeah exactly. Yeah, those places that you frequent. Yeah,

2246
01:53:14,693 --> 01:53:15,253
Speaker 3: some people we're a.

2247
01:53:15,253 --> 01:53:17,613
Speaker 21: Measure of tops and things, you know, but I'll be

2248
01:53:17,693 --> 01:53:18,053
Speaker 21: at the back.

2249
01:53:18,133 --> 01:53:20,693
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, So this sounds like a bit of

2250
01:53:20,773 --> 01:53:23,333
Speaker 3: me too, actually, Yeah, Okay, it's really enjoyable.

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01:53:23,373 --> 01:53:25,533
Speaker 21: It's a great album. I think it's a really good

2252
01:53:25,613 --> 01:53:28,213
Speaker 21: place for them to be and yeah, I just give

2253
01:53:28,213 --> 01:53:31,933
Speaker 21: it a good listen and feel the optimism and yeah,

2254
01:53:32,013 --> 01:53:33,693
Speaker 21: just some of the beautiful sounds they put together. Ash's

2255
01:53:33,773 --> 01:53:36,533
Speaker 21: voice is fantastic. I really like her sounds. Yeah, yeah,

2256
01:53:36,573 --> 01:53:37,213
Speaker 21: it's a great listen.

2257
01:53:37,253 --> 01:53:39,013
Speaker 3: Okay, we'll have a listened to the title track in

2258
01:53:39,053 --> 01:53:41,093
Speaker 3: a couple of minutes. But what did you give That's

2259
01:53:41,173 --> 01:53:43,213
Speaker 3: Life Baby? I'm going to get a nine out of

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01:53:43,293 --> 01:53:48,893
Speaker 3: ten very good. Okay, nine out of ten superb, very good.

2261
01:53:49,413 --> 01:53:51,053
Speaker 3: All right, we'll catch you get next week thanks of

2262
01:53:51,093 --> 01:53:54,213
Speaker 3: Stelle Stelle Clifford our music review of the That's Life

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01:53:54,413 --> 01:53:56,533
Speaker 3: Baby is for these new album Like I say, we'll

2264
01:53:56,533 --> 01:53:58,013
Speaker 3: have a bit more of a listen in a couple

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01:53:58,053 --> 01:54:01,933
Speaker 3: of minutes. Right now. It has just gone eight minutes

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Speaker 3: to twelve.

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2279
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2280
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2281
01:54:43,653 --> 01:54:47,733
Speaker 3: planned on weekend Sport. It's the first crossover weekend where

2282
01:54:47,733 --> 01:54:50,053
Speaker 3: we have the NRL, the A League and Super Rugby

2283
01:54:50,133 --> 01:54:52,413
Speaker 3: all underway at once, so lots to get through the SAVO.

2284
01:54:52,493 --> 01:54:55,773
Speaker 3: Of course, Auckland FC playing at five o'clock this evening.

2285
01:54:55,773 --> 01:54:58,413
Speaker 3: I'll be at that game, hoping that they can score

2286
01:54:58,413 --> 01:55:01,293
Speaker 3: a win against Adelaide United, which would hopefully put them

2287
01:55:01,973 --> 01:55:04,133
Speaker 3: into an unassailable position at the top of the A

2288
01:55:04,293 --> 01:55:07,453
Speaker 3: League heading into the playoffs, which would be a readable achievement.

2289
01:55:07,733 --> 01:55:10,493
Speaker 3: We're gonna leave you with Foley. Their brand new album

2290
01:55:10,653 --> 01:55:14,213
Speaker 3: is That's Life Baby. This is the title song. I'll

2291
01:55:14,213 --> 01:55:15,093
Speaker 3: see you next week.

2292
01:55:16,773 --> 01:55:18,213
Speaker 25: Because it don't change.

2293
01:55:20,613 --> 01:55:22,453
Speaker 14: I'm not the way you're getting your friends.

2294
01:55:22,493 --> 01:55:26,773
Speaker 19: Are you be cursing my name? I can sew the

2295
01:55:26,813 --> 01:55:29,333
Speaker 19: way the English I've never done anyway.

2296
01:55:30,893 --> 01:55:31,373
Speaker 2: I can.

2297
01:55:33,613 --> 01:55:35,333
Speaker 13: See the same.

2298
01:55:36,653 --> 01:56:00,813
Speaker 25: I can't techs baby, I'll never set up. I'm cool,

2299
01:56:01,093 --> 01:56:02,373
Speaker 25: I'm God, you know what that.

2300
01:56:05,493 --> 01:56:05,693
Speaker 13: Cry?

2301
01:56:05,773 --> 01:56:10,573
Speaker 6: And then oh you should go anything only want everybodys able.

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01:56:10,893 --> 01:56:11,653
Speaker 13: That's Saturday.

2303
01:56:13,133 --> 01:56:15,053
Speaker 25: You never got get it like your own.

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01:56:16,573 --> 01:56:17,333
Speaker 13: That's Saturday.

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01:56:18,813 --> 01:56:25,133
Speaker 2: It's never got get it like your own. Feel this

2306
01:56:25,453 --> 01:56:30,173
Speaker 2: commonly face. I can't help that. I'm not the one

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01:56:30,253 --> 01:56:35,613
Speaker 2: of childe, baby lost, baby Jack.

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01:56:35,533 --> 01:56:47,213
Speaker 13: That brother, That Saturday. No nostbody.

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01:56:48,053 --> 01:56:54,653
Speaker 19: Saturday, Last Saturday.

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01:56:55,613 --> 01:56:59,893
Speaker 13: Nay Saturday.

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