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Speaker 1: The present.

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Speaker 2: Is the twenty fourth of July twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 3: Welcome all you bespokey dokies to the Daily Bespoke podcast and.

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Speaker 2: Coming up on the show. When he gets in here.

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Speaker 3: It burn When he gets in here, it burns returned

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Speaker 3: to New Zealand with a brand new solo tourt Tragedy

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Speaker 3: plus time. When he gets here, he's coming in the

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Speaker 3: first thing I'm going to ask him when he gets

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Speaker 3: in here, what time do you call this? Yeah, that's

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Speaker 3: the first thing I'm going to say, what excuse me?

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Speaker 2: What guse me? What time do you call this?

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Speaker 1: Hey?

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Speaker 2: Who is that?

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Speaker 3: I'm just forgetting his name now, that Irish comedian that

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Speaker 3: we had and here that just sat over there drawing

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Speaker 3: a really negative picture and wouldn't ask our questions, answer

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Speaker 2: Moran, not Dylan, Dylan Moran, Dylan Moran, Dylan Morane.

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Speaker 4: Do you know Dylan Moran. I think Dylan Moranz. I

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Speaker 4: think he's not in a good space now right.

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Speaker 3: Because Dylan Moran then went on and did some shows,

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Speaker 3: which was interesting because some people said that they were

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Speaker 3: really really amazing, and other people said he was.

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Speaker 2: Just on stage being drunk. But I guess it's your expectations.

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Speaker 3: If you go to Dylan Moran, maybe you just want

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Speaker 3: him on stage drunk, randing rating. But Dylan Moran did

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Speaker 3: not like us, did he.

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Speaker 2: No, he didn't like us. I don't think he liked

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Speaker 2: anyone they.

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Speaker 4: I was just reading about ed Byrne, who's been here

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Speaker 4: a lot over the years. I remember coming across him

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Speaker 4: for the first time, and the one I remember coming

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Speaker 4: across home, bigger partner, I remember coming across that. I

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Speaker 4: come across him, and the mid to late nineties.

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Speaker 2: Here, Oh okay, sorry for the first time. I should

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Speaker 2: have waited at the end of the sea.

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Speaker 4: As a performer, he was always very popular, Yeah, very

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Speaker 4: popular with the ladies, which is quite interesting too. But

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Speaker 4: I was just reading about him. He comes from a

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Speaker 4: place called Swords.

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Speaker 2: Swords. Swords is w O r d S in Dublin.

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Speaker 2: Swords in Dublin, Yeah, And I was looking up.

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Speaker 4: And I looked up as Swords in Dublin, a nice area,

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Speaker 4: and it said it was recently named the third best

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Speaker 4: town to live in an Ireland as well as Ireland's.

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Speaker 2: Second cleanest, second cleanest town and island. Yes, Swords, it's

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Speaker 2: actually really beautiful.

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Speaker 4: It's got like it's got like a castle all sorts.

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Speaker 3: Of obviously about this other I was watching, you know,

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Speaker 3: as a saying on the podcast yesterday, I believe it

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Speaker 3: was about the trip, and I was they go to

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Speaker 3: all these small towns and there's these amazing towns in

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Speaker 3: Europe where there's a castle, like there'll just be a

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Speaker 3: town and then there's a castle, and we got nothing

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Speaker 3: here like that. I mean, we've got Larnet's Castle, but

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Speaker 3: that's good for a pounding on Miss County's menico.

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Speaker 4: But about that, hold on, let's just be clear, there

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Speaker 4: was no Miss Counties. Monuco was not involved in the pounding.

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Speaker 2: She was involved at the.

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Speaker 4: Pre function, but pre pounding she was doing table sucks

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Speaker 3: But anyway, my point is that we don't have that

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Speaker 3: kind of history here. It's so bizarre, and I always

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Speaker 3: want of people that come here over here from Europe,

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Speaker 3: everything must seem so new and knock together. I mean,

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Speaker 3: we've got great natural beauty episodes Ireland. It's beautiful, incredibly beautiful,

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Speaker 3: beautiful and so sodas England, but so does all of

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Speaker 3: you Ape actually, but they must be really because we

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Speaker 3: go over there and we go Oh my got a castle.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, a beautiful old building.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god.

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Speaker 3: I can't believe this pub is from opened in the

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Speaker 3: year eleven hundred. They must come over here and go.

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Speaker 3: This feels very just thrown together at the last minute.

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Speaker 2: This feels new. This feels like Ireland would have felt like,

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Speaker 2: and sort of seven hundred watch burnings, yeah, all that

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Speaker 4: If I said to you summer and Dublin, yeah, what's

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Speaker 4: it's it's exactly the temperature that I always think of

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Speaker 2: I've been to Dublin. Eighteen. That's that, that's exactly. Always

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Speaker 2: that's what it is today, eighteen and cloudy, yeah summer.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, in summer it's always eighteen.

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Speaker 2: But growing up in Dunedin, as I did, or to

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Speaker 4: No, it wasn't it wasn't called Aunti putti And even now,

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Speaker 4: how many people in Dunedin are calling it at Porti?

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Speaker 3: But the thing is, I used to think that twenty

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Speaker 3: And you know, obviously down there you'll get your thirties

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you wire hot, it will get hot.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, yeah, your expectations are around the twenty degrees.

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Speaker 3: You know, eighteen isn't a disaster in summer.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, But which which is?

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Speaker 3: Which is a real eye opener for people from say Australia, Queensland.

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Speaker 2: They're like, what this is your summer? Yeah?

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Speaker 5: What?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Well yeah, I imagine Dublin. There must be a time,

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Speaker 4: a bit like Dannina. There must be a time, a

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Speaker 4: Ireland must be quite nice, must be a hot that

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because their thing is the north that the weather

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Speaker 4: The Vikings going to Ireland, I don't know if they bothered.

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Speaker 2: They went to money there, they went to Scotland, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Shetland's I don't think they were doing much pissing around

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Speaker 3: Was the other side of the way outher sides too

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Speaker 3: So there was some people coming up the other way

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Speaker 4: I think they were French and maybe Spanish that ended

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Speaker 4: he'll no, he'll knowatory of all Saint Pat.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he was a slave.

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Speaker 3: He was grabbed off the shores of Ireland as a

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Speaker 4: I have been watching Vikings Valhalla. Ah, yeah, and I'm

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Speaker 4: really enjoying it. And I just realized about one episode.

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Speaker 4: I was like, oh, this is about my ancestry. These

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Speaker 4: it over from Bloody Scandinavia and Normandy and also the

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Speaker 2: I was like, oh, this is this is some of

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Speaker 4: Of these people could have been related to me. Never

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Speaker 4: really thought about it. Well, they probably would be made. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I was like, these guys are quite funny. Thing is

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Speaker 3: Back in history, right you think about it in the

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Speaker 3: you know, sixty million yep. But back then, you know

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So when all those Viking raids and everything were happening,

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Speaker 3: and the Viking raids are It's interesting.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it was mainly farmers turning up and finding

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Speaker 3: You know, it's like it's a bit different than it's

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Speaker 3: portrayed because a lot of that was written. History was

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Speaker 3: their own powerful power it needs. But you know, there's

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Speaker 3: no doubt that England's surely one of the most the

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Speaker 2: Isn't all it was coming from all angles.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because they had used lush, had lush soil there,

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Speaker 3: and you know, the Romans went over there, You've got

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Speaker 2: The Vikings, so were.

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Speaker 4: They The Vikings were obviously going in there and they

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Speaker 4: were raiding and pelagen because they had lots of money

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Speaker 3: Well that's this thing, because I've read a bit of

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Speaker 4: Yeah, right, because Scandinavia had harsh winters harsh winters.

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Speaker 3: So the Vikings were just like anyone else. I mean,

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Speaker 3: there was a bit of raiding and there was a

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Speaker 3: and maybe made love to the old woman.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, I'm.

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Speaker 3: Trying to I'm whitewashing the whole situation.

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Speaker 2: There was no love involved.

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Speaker 4: But and I did watch some of the love making

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Speaker 3: I would like to go back to another Viking series.

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Speaker 3: I'd like to make love to Legatha loth I beat

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Speaker 3: you with the braids.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, no, she's she's beautiful. And there's a couple of

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Speaker 4: absolute beauties in this latest season as well.

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Speaker 3: It's at interesting that the biggest hotties in the world

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Speaker 3: like some of the hottest people in the world are Scandinavians.

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Speaker 3: They're tall and hot, aren't they.

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Speaker 2: Yep, they are they are.

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Speaker 3: So with the Vikings rocking down where they people see

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Speaker 3: the Vikings stand up, this sucks because we're about to

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Speaker 3: have a monastery burnt down.

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Speaker 2: But pretty good looking.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if they were had that vibe, but

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Speaker 4: definitely England was interesting because you had you had French.

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Speaker 4: She's coming over and they were French in those days.

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Speaker 3: So they invaded and are we going to call this

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Speaker 3: And then you get bloody ed burn from Ireland, educated

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Speaker 2: He was he educated in Scotland, so no, he's not.

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Speaker 2: nine point thirty? What time does he call this? Well?

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Speaker 2: At time now? It's nine to eighteen. We can't rap

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Speaker 2: You want to call it?

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Speaker 4: Well, with the magic of podcasting, what we can do

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Speaker 4: Then we we'll make time shortened down and so if

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I get it, but I also want to be

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Speaker 2: Oh really yeah, Okay, that's the first question. What time

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Speaker 1: You going very good?

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Speaker 2: Thank you, ed. The first question I need to ask

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Speaker 1: I called past nine?

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Speaker 3: See a bit of backstory on that. It is we

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Ok. Perception is everything, isn't it?

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Speaker 1: Because and this is being pre recorded, so time means nothing.

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Speaker 1: Well yeah, and I'm jet lagged, so time means even less.

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Speaker 1: It's like half ten in the evening. Where I'm from

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Speaker 2: Where did you fly from yesterday?

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Speaker 1: London? London, London stands Dead, which is not in London.

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Speaker 1: The whole airport thing, particularly in the UK, is one

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Speaker 3: Remember remember the heaven to us when we coming back

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Speaker 3: We're in London.

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Speaker 2: You're like, no, no, you're a long long.

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Speaker 1: Luton is literally the name of another town, and you

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Speaker 4: Luton is actually close further away from its actually.

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Speaker 2: Kind of closer.

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Speaker 3: At least there's there's sort of a reason for that.

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Speaker 1: you land at this airport, that's just chee.

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Speaker 3: Well, on the second of August, you're playing the glen

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Speaker 3: It's got a different town. It's got a Mammonia airport.

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Speaker 3: You're flying and you land there. It's forty five minutes

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Speaker 1: It just seems like a really weird thing to do.

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Speaker 1: It's because Edinburgh is a very hilly city and Dunedin

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Speaker 1: little use because it's not in three D. We turn

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Speaker 1: I think the new Town area of Edinburgh.

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Speaker 3: So you want you want to get away from so

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Speaker 2: You wouldn't do that these days. Get to Dunedin and

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Speaker 2: go let's bold where we're from.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like people, you know, I've known people like

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Speaker 3: Just played, like New Zealand thing to go, but we

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Speaker 4: I have a theory on maybe why that happened. So

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Speaker 2: Are you actually trying.

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Speaker 4: To recreate what you thought was the best place in

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Speaker 4: so you're actually just recreating the thing that you already know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and just going jungle. Wow, it's all lush and beautiful.

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Speaker 1: Get the sheep's turn this head to a field.

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Speaker 2: What's all you know that?

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Speaker 4: We know how to grow these animals, we know how

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Speaker 4: houses have to be heated.

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Speaker 1: And this will justify being able to buy a massive

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Speaker 3: I've got two questions for you, yeah, and they're quite different,

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Speaker 3: but I'm going to ask them at the same the

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Speaker 1: The first question that you've prefaced this this is there

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Speaker 1: is to be no speed bombs or are surprised to

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Speaker 2: I don't want I don't want to on the sports

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Speaker 1: This is what I don't know exactly how many questions

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Speaker 1: I'm about to be asked, and I want to know

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Speaker 1: if there's any great difference between those questions before you,

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Speaker 1: otherwise I might get whiplash.

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Speaker 2: We're not got your journalists. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So the first question is how come not many Irish

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Speaker 3: mainly went to Australia. And secondly, did the Vikings ever

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Speaker 3: side and they didn't because because you know where they

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Speaker 3: come from, the Vikings, that kind of makes sense.

444
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Speaker 2: But did they? So the Vikings did hit Ireland as well.

445
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Speaker 1: Absolutely, Dublin is the Viking city. Dublin was settled in

446
00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:36,399
Speaker 1: ten eighty eight. I think it was, yeah, as a

447
00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:39,119
Speaker 1: Viking city. That's the thing that Andrew Maxwell used to

448
00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:40,639
Speaker 1: do a joke about that about how we used to

449
00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:43,520
Speaker 1: have to learn Irish, the Irish language, you know, growing

450
00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:46,560
Speaker 1: up and you have fugures and that's part of your culture,

451
00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:49,080
Speaker 1: it's part of your heritage. You go, nah, we're Vikings, right,

452
00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:50,159
Speaker 1: you know?

453
00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:54,040
Speaker 2: So there was did they plan to go that side?

454
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Speaker 1: I mean, I cannot speak for the Vikings.

455
00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:57,959
Speaker 3: But they went to the ship. It makes sense to go.

456
00:19:58,040 --> 00:20:00,320
Speaker 3: This makes sens to go the Shpland islands. Stop there

457
00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:02,280
Speaker 3: and then you decide which side you're going to go.

458
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Speaker 1: I guess, yeah, we I think I'm thinking we just

459
00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:08,280
Speaker 1: welcomed them in nice heart.

460
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Speaker 2: Well, the Vikings would loved island with the lush green

461
00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:13,200
Speaker 2: the green green grasslands grow there.

462
00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:15,520
Speaker 1: And it's it's mad because then you also see all

463
00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:17,600
Speaker 1: you can go to Ireland, you can see all the

464
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Speaker 1: remnants of Viking invasion. You know, there's all these round

465
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Speaker 1: towers everywhere where. The monks used to hide in them

466
00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:26,960
Speaker 1: and they used to get the gold and somefing that

467
00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:28,280
Speaker 1: and take it up to the top of the round

468
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Speaker 1: tower to hide from the vikings, and they're still standing

469
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Speaker 1: to this day. You're next to next to old churches

470
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Speaker 1: in places like Glenda Locke and stuff like that. There

471
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Speaker 1: was there was a round tower in the town I

472
00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:39,760
Speaker 1: grew up in, Swords. There's a Yeah.

473
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Speaker 2: So it's the sick and cleanest city in Island. Wow, Yeah, beautiful, beautiful.

474
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Speaker 2: Since I left, really.

475
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Speaker 1: We'll be getting out of there.

476
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Speaker 4: Yeah, and the third third best place to town to

477
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Speaker 4: live in an Ireland?

478
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Speaker 1: Is that a fact? Again? Since I left? Yeah, But

479
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Speaker 1: I can't speak to why Irish people moved to Australia

480
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Speaker 1: rather than New Zealand.

481
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Speaker 3: It's an interesting probably just the different companies because the

482
00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:10,400
Speaker 3: New Zealand Company went to Scotland and and said, hey,

483
00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:13,000
Speaker 3: there's a tropical paradise you can move down to and

484
00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:15,520
Speaker 3: sold all these lies and then people got down there

485
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Speaker 3: and go, oh, this is just I just have to

486
00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:22,280
Speaker 3: hack my farm out of some native push and and

487
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Speaker 3: start my life there. And then they're like and maybe

488
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Speaker 3: that's why they then built Edinburgh there, because they're like,

489
00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:29,360
Speaker 3: this wasn't what was on the packet, but we can't

490
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Speaker 3: get home.

491
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Speaker 4: Yeah, but I think you're right. I think that it

492
00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:33,239
Speaker 4: was all a New Zealand company thing. I think they

493
00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:35,320
Speaker 4: were going in Scotland, they were in England, they weren't

494
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Speaker 4: in Ireland. But then the Irish people that came and

495
00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:39,800
Speaker 4: ended up in New Zealand actually came through Australia because

496
00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:42,600
Speaker 4: lots of lots of people who went to Australia then

497
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Speaker 4: came to New Zealand to.

498
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Speaker 1: Be proud of Australia New South Wales. That's right, Yeah,

499
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Speaker 1: yeah we did.

500
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Speaker 3: So we were talking because we did a bit of

501
00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:53,240
Speaker 3: an intro for you before you came on to save time, right,

502
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Speaker 3: And one thing we got.

503
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Speaker 1: Because we needed to leave room for this rambling conversation

504
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Speaker 1: about how we don't know enough about the history of

505
00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:04,200
Speaker 1: New Zealand, which I'm allowed not know, by the way. Yeah,

506
00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:07,320
Speaker 1: you're the gaps in your knowledge is more stark.

507
00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:09,000
Speaker 2: Than absolutely are from here. They're disgusting.

508
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Speaker 3: But yes, So one thing we got wrong in the

509
00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:15,119
Speaker 3: evening was we said that Vikings never went to island,

510
00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:18,520
Speaker 3: so they embarrassing. But one thing that we were saying

511
00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:21,880
Speaker 3: is from our perspective, you growing up on Swords. You've

512
00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:25,600
Speaker 3: got all these ancient buildings, you've got Vikings, remnants of Vikings.

513
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Speaker 1: In fact, there's actually a castle in Swords where they

514
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Speaker 1: film episodes of the TV show Vikings.

515
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Speaker 2: Right, that's true, that's aw Viking. Yes, said that.

516
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Speaker 1: And here's another example of me and one terrible person

517
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Speaker 1: I am. I did a tour of Norway and my

518
00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:41,560
Speaker 1: promoter referred to that show as Vikings, which is how

519
00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:45,320
Speaker 1: they pronounce it Vikings. Yeah, and I said, it's pronounced Vikings.

520
00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:49,680
Speaker 1: I told the Norwegian to pronounce the word Viking. Now,

521
00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:51,800
Speaker 1: if you ever want to be told that you're a

522
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Speaker 1: smart art, that's I think that's the greatest example there.

523
00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:56,760
Speaker 1: So you're saying Viking wrong.

524
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Speaker 3: So we need when you come to New Zealand, do

525
00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:05,159
Speaker 3: you it must look so new and slapped together, you

526
00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:05,760
Speaker 3: know what I mean?

527
00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:07,680
Speaker 2: So in your eyes.

528
00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:11,720
Speaker 3: Traveling around Europe, you know this was what's the coolest

529
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Speaker 3: thing for a New Zealander As we go over seas

530
00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:15,480
Speaker 3: and we go to a town like Swords, and we

531
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Speaker 3: see a tower and we can't believe it. We can't

532
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Speaker 3: believe people aren't making it, celebrating it and running around

533
00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:22,199
Speaker 3: it and talking about it.

534
00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:22,720
Speaker 2: Constantly.

535
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Speaker 3: I was in Paris recently and I was down in

536
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Speaker 3: this alleyway and there was this huge building that was

537
00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:30,720
Speaker 3: from some time, and I said to the waiter, what's

538
00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:33,359
Speaker 3: that and he goes, oh, because but it would be

539
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Speaker 3: the most celebrated building in New Zealand if it was here.

540
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Speaker 3: So from your eyes you becoming to New Zealand since

541
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Speaker 3: nineteen ninety seven, it must look just a bit slapped

542
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Speaker 3: together and new.

543
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Speaker 5: No.

544
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Speaker 1: I actually find myself like, I come somewhere like this.

545
00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:47,080
Speaker 1: It's got the same population as Ireland. And I look

546
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Speaker 1: at these modern cities everywhere and I go, we go,

547
00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:53,680
Speaker 1: we have stuff like this. We don't have a sky

548
00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:56,200
Speaker 1: tower in Dublin, you know, like we have a thing

549
00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:59,960
Speaker 1: in Dublin called the Spire, which is literally just a spy.

550
00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:02,160
Speaker 1: It's not even a building. It's like a piece of art.

551
00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:05,119
Speaker 1: You can't go up it. It's just a big tall spike.

552
00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:07,960
Speaker 1: It's the it's the top of the sky tower. They

553
00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:10,320
Speaker 1: just took the antenna and just put that in the

554
00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:13,640
Speaker 1: center of O'Connell Street and went there. There's there, there's

555
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Speaker 1: a skyscraper. There's at least the top of a skyscraper.

556
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Speaker 1: We don't have sky we.

557
00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:19,520
Speaker 2: Have Liberty what's the highest building.

558
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Speaker 1: In Liberty Hall, which is it's it's like twenty stories

559
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Speaker 1: that it's not a it's not a tall building, and

560
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Speaker 1: and part of me was like, why do we have

561
00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:30,440
Speaker 1: stuff like that? That's what I genuinely feel like.

562
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Speaker 3: But we call them lakers here, buildings that are being

563
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Speaker 3: thrown out with poor building standards that didn't have to

564
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Speaker 3: be reclared.

565
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Speaker 1: But I was because I first landed here in ninety seven.

566
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Speaker 1: You just built the sky Tower, and everyone was very

567
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Speaker 1: excited about it, particularly it was really I mean, it

568
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Speaker 1: was eight in the world at the time, which was

569
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Speaker 1: a great thing to build. Yeah, but for you, it

570
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Speaker 1: was it was like it was taller than they had

571
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Speaker 1: in Australia. That's all that counts that. It was just

572
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Speaker 1: like focus in Australia, that's just build there is a

573
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Speaker 1: little taller than that. And it was your joke about

574
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Speaker 1: the fact that it does kind of cheat, like the

575
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Speaker 1: sea and tower and cons like it's already building for

576
00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:08,119
Speaker 1: so long and then it's just a spike and then

577
00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:11,800
Speaker 1: it's just like that's like me putting the toothpick and

578
00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:14,720
Speaker 1: the animal penis. Look at the length of that it's

579
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Speaker 1: not the same.

580
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Speaker 3: Well, and then they never painted the skytower. You must

581
00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:19,359
Speaker 3: have come back and gone every time gone. Are they

582
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Speaker 3: going to get rid of painting there? It's a still

583
00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:22,640
Speaker 3: concrete color.

584
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Speaker 2: Are they ever going to paint the bastard?

585
00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:30,040
Speaker 3: It's a testament to how what a successful business gambling is, though,

586
00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:32,200
Speaker 3: isn't it the biggest building in your town?

587
00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:32,879
Speaker 4: Is?

588
00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:35,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you actually.

589
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Speaker 4: Made a good point that what's preventing them from chucking

590
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Speaker 4: another stick on top.

591
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Speaker 2: Of it that goes up to make it taller. Surely

592
00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:43,760
Speaker 2: I think this rule is about how long your sticks

593
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Speaker 2: are llowed to be Well, who makes that role?

594
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Speaker 4: The International Tool Building Association, who makes that rule.

595
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Speaker 3: They'll come down on you like a ton of bricks

596
00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:56,280
Speaker 3: if you if you, if you had an extra area

597
00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:57,720
Speaker 3: on top of the area on top of the area

598
00:25:57,920 --> 00:25:59,920
Speaker 3: on top of your large pole, and then claim the

599
00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:01,639
Speaker 3: higher than the Impire State building.

600
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Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

601
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Speaker 1: I was in Melbourne a few months ago and the

602
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:07,840
Speaker 1: tallest building in Melbourne you get up to the observation,

603
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:09,680
Speaker 1: it's not the talle the building.

604
00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:11,159
Speaker 2: That you can go up the skydeck.

605
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Speaker 1: You go up it and the first thing you see

606
00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:15,760
Speaker 1: when you get a lift is a taller building that

607
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:19,760
Speaker 1: got built about a year later by arrival multi millionaire.

608
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Speaker 1: And it's just like the point of going up a

609
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:25,320
Speaker 1: big building like that. You're not supposed to stand there

610
00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:27,679
Speaker 1: and go wouldn't it be cool to work in that

611
00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:29,920
Speaker 1: office up there. That's not how it's supposed to be.

612
00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:30,560
Speaker 2: It would suck.

613
00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:33,640
Speaker 4: It would suck if you've spent all that money, all

614
00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:37,080
Speaker 4: that Hubers spent on trying to have the tallest building,

615
00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:38,560
Speaker 4: and someone just immediately goes up.

616
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Speaker 3: Well, it's like, you know, when you have a cafe

617
00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:41,720
Speaker 3: and it's doing quite well, and then someone opens a

618
00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:44,199
Speaker 3: cafe right next door, and you imagine what it's like

619
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Speaker 3: going to work, and you go, you guys, just having

620
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:47,760
Speaker 3: a cafe right next door. I mean, it's quite a

621
00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:50,280
Speaker 3: big move. You put your put your big thing right

622
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Speaker 3: side the other big thing.

623
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Speaker 1: We put this here just for you for your staff

624
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Speaker 1: to come to before they go to work in your one.

625
00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:57,240
Speaker 1: You know, then it comes out who could open five

626
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Speaker 1: minutes before the other one?

627
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

628
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Speaker 4: I was looking before at the temperature today in Dublin

629
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Speaker 4: and I said to Matt. I've been to Dublin a

630
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:09,359
Speaker 4: couple of times, and I said to Matt, if I

631
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:11,600
Speaker 4: said to you it's summer and Dublin at the moment,

632
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:14,520
Speaker 4: what is the temperature, What's the first thing that will

633
00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:17,719
Speaker 4: come to your mind? And Matt said eighteen And I

634
00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:21,560
Speaker 4: said it's eighteen. That's exactly what. It's cloudy and it's

635
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:24,159
Speaker 4: eighteen today and that was exactly me.

636
00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 2: That was the first.

637
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:29,240
Speaker 4: Does it ever move away from eighteen in summer in Dublin.

638
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:32,080
Speaker 1: Not often, No, no. Darryl O'Brien had a funny routine

639
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:34,960
Speaker 1: about going to Australia and seeing a thing saying the

640
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:38,920
Speaker 1: overnight low temperature will be twenty two degrees the overnight.

641
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:42,359
Speaker 1: If it was that temperature overnights in Ireland, you'd be

642
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:43,879
Speaker 1: getting the kids out of bed and taking them to

643
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:47,360
Speaker 1: the beach. Well, they never see twenty two degrees.

644
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:49,440
Speaker 3: Again, Well, this morning is and there's mornings in Australia

645
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:52,359
Speaker 3: for Australian's. You know, tourists coming to New Zealand, they

646
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:55,800
Speaker 3: will say it's not hot, like you think it's gonna

647
00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:57,800
Speaker 3: be hot. They in New Zealand, we get excited at

648
00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:00,240
Speaker 3: about twenty four. At twenty four, we're like, that's that's

649
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 3: hot for an Australian. They're like, get out of town.

650
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:05,359
Speaker 1: Well, I've never been in New Zealand in the winter before.

651
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:08,080
Speaker 1: I normally come here to April May, right, so this

652
00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:10,199
Speaker 1: is the first time i've been here, you know, in

653
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:11,840
Speaker 1: your way. And it's not as cold as I thought

654
00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:13,920
Speaker 1: it was going to be. I have packed like proper

655
00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:16,960
Speaker 1: arctic carry on, we'll hold.

656
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:18,880
Speaker 3: It's fourteen degrees today.

657
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,960
Speaker 4: It's yeah, Auckland's very well. But but I'm looking here

658
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:23,919
Speaker 4: and you are going to the cargo.

659
00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:27,400
Speaker 2: You'll get cold down there. But the third of August,

660
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 2: now it doesn't get any cold. Then are Queenstown can

661
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:33,439
Speaker 2: Queenstown's colder?

662
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:38,920
Speaker 4: Actually yeah, but yeah, you it's this is a big

663
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Speaker 4: difference between say the Cargo in the middle of winter

664
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:44,160
Speaker 4: and then Auckland or North. And you're not going any

665
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:46,560
Speaker 4: further than Auckland are in North No, No.

666
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:47,600
Speaker 1: It Takapoona.

667
00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:53,719
Speaker 2: Across the bridge. It's a bit warmer. It's maybe a

668
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:56,800
Speaker 2: degree warmer, and that's probably a great warmer. I'm glad.

669
00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:58,520
Speaker 1: I packed a whole range of clothes.

670
00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:02,560
Speaker 2: So you obviously you've been here a number of times.

671
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:04,480
Speaker 2: Is this the most extensive tour you've done?

672
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 1: I think so, I yeah, it's I'm going to for

673
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:12,320
Speaker 1: the first time. I don't think I've performed and wrote au.

674
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 2: Before on a hot pole.

675
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:17,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I may I have been. I went there on

676
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 1: mid day off on the last tour, and I came

677
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 1: here last year, but I haven't performed there so and

678
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:25,960
Speaker 1: that's selling really badly. You haven't been.

679
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:29,560
Speaker 3: It's one of those tourist downs through where it's like,

680
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:33,240
Speaker 3: you know a lot of transient you know, so that

681
00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:38,160
Speaker 3: that feel about that one, Yeah, I feel for Australians

682
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:40,160
Speaker 3: just dipping the towe on a hot pole and getting out.

683
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, so well I'm going there. I'm going There's a

684
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 1: few plays I've been I have been to before that

685
00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:47,520
Speaker 1: I'm not going to this time. I did a few

686
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 1: tours ago that was weird. I was doing a show

687
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 1: called Different Class, which by which up until this show,

688
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:56,840
Speaker 1: I'm sorry to say that, but this show has been

689
00:29:56,880 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 1: the best reviewed show I've ever done. It's beenridiculous. The plots,

690
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:03,520
Speaker 1: oh my goodness, Oh my goodness. But previously that was

691
00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:06,200
Speaker 1: the show called Different Class, which I toured all over

692
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:08,280
Speaker 1: the UK and Australia and New Zealand and it went

693
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:11,280
Speaker 1: very well until I got to Omaru and the first

694
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 1: three jokes of the show. Nothing, nothing like nothing, And

695
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:17,960
Speaker 1: I just ditched the show and just went and just

696
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:20,640
Speaker 1: did like greatest hits. Just just ended up doing just

697
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:23,520
Speaker 1: jokes that I wrote twenty years ago. Yeah, a bunch

698
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:27,280
Speaker 1: of one lines about Yeah it worked. Was it the

699
00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:28,720
Speaker 1: the first time I've ever done that on a tour

700
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:30,960
Speaker 1: where the show I was intending to do, I.

701
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:33,280
Speaker 2: Just ditched and did other stuff in was it the

702
00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 2: south end or the north end of.

703
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:40,160
Speaker 1: Remember think it was a beautiful town. Yeah, it's a

704
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:43,200
Speaker 1: gold rush town Stone Yeah, yep, yeah.

705
00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:45,520
Speaker 3: I mean the south end is the southeenst When you

706
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 3: did that, we did the parade, wasn't it.

707
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, so down the old the old town end with

708
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:51,760
Speaker 4: all the motors, stone, those buildings and stuff like that.

709
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 4: Because the first slice to have refrigeration, right uh in

710
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:57,880
Speaker 4: New Zealand, that was the first place that they used

711
00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:00,600
Speaker 4: to refrigerate and seeing mate off over so came out

712
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 4: of Wame and so there was a lot of money

713
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 4: there at one sage And yes, gold.

714
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 1: Well you could have refrigerated meat cold stare that my

715
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:13,400
Speaker 1: first three jokes received. Did you go to I didn't know?

716
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:19,239
Speaker 4: Okay, Of the two rus, I prefer Wamo actually the

717
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:20,720
Speaker 4: one that you that you went to.

718
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 1: Right, I found out a tricky gig, so I'm no offense.

719
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:29,120
Speaker 1: I'm decided against.

720
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:34,040
Speaker 2: Was it at the Amor town Hall? Beautiful, beautiful, that's

721
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:35,360
Speaker 2: at the south end. I'll tell you.

722
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 4: The other thing is that something. It's quite a big

723
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,480
Speaker 4: town hall, that one. I mean you fat Selli's, which

724
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:41,200
Speaker 4: is the restaurant down there. I've had some great meals

725
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 4: at fat Sellies over the years, and that for me,

726
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 4: that's the highlight of Wamero.

727
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 2: You haven't.

728
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:49,320
Speaker 4: You must have gone to fat Selli's when you went there.

729
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:52,240
Speaker 1: I have no memory when when when a gig goes

730
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:55,440
Speaker 1: as difficult as that, that's all you think about, really,

731
00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:58,200
Speaker 1: all of the incidentals around it. I think I probably

732
00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 1: just went and got drunk and just tried to wait.

733
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:00,920
Speaker 1: Whole memory.

734
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Well it's an interesting town, but it's not

735
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:07,200
Speaker 3: as punchy as as tom is.

736
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,800
Speaker 4: It's not a white Yeah.

737
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 1: Looking at my my itinerary, where is the place I'm

738
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 1: going to, you reckon, I'm going to encounter the most weirdness.

739
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 2: Okay, that's a great it's a good question.

740
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 4: I can tell you straight away. I've seen it straightaway.

741
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 3: You're not going to go in North Paris, the North

742
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:28,560
Speaker 3: North parmis the North, the one that called the asshole

743
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 3: of the world and a good place to comit silicie.

744
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then so they I mean.

745
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:38,960
Speaker 1: It's can you tell if he if he came out

746
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 1: of there alive, I mean, if he was going to

747
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 1: be you know, you can't, Yeah, you can't. You can't

748
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 1: even compare it. They named the.

749
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:48,280
Speaker 3: Dump af from the Tips now called the John Cleese

750
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 3: Tip there after it because he was so mean about

751
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:54,000
Speaker 3: them inflammatory statements. I actually don't know what happened to

752
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:56,239
Speaker 3: him there that he didn't didn't like it.

753
00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 4: I think he I think he actually touched on something

754
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 4: that a lot of people have felt and observed, observed themselves,

755
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:06,720
Speaker 4: but never quite put to words. And I actually, but interestingly,

756
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,640
Speaker 4: I interviewed the mayor of Parmeston North recently. It's good

757
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:12,600
Speaker 4: but good guy, and he said, like Parmeson North, he goes,

758
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 4: that's a pretty ship place he was, he goes, But

759
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 4: you know what, we're a farmer, farming, service town and

760
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:19,960
Speaker 4: we're fine with where we are. We're very comfortable. We're

761
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:21,560
Speaker 4: not trying to pretend to be a tourist town.

762
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:23,040
Speaker 2: They've got the All Blacks Museum there.

763
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, we do very well for ourselves down here, thanks

764
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:25,719
Speaker 4: very much.

765
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:28,160
Speaker 3: We've got a lot of actually very funny comedians come

766
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:29,720
Speaker 3: out of Palmerston North from there.

767
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:32,320
Speaker 2: Uh what's his name? Cool?

768
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 4: Jeremy Corbt, Jeremy Corbett and Laura Daniel. Yeah, I think

769
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 4: that's that's But humor is often to overcome adversities.

770
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:41,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I.

771
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 1: Don't think it's. Yeah, it doesn't speak well of a

772
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:44,760
Speaker 1: town if a lot of good comedians, but I think

773
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:49,720
Speaker 1: it's only a bad town like Navin in Ireland has

774
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 1: produced some of the greatest comedians and it's because it's it's.

775
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 3: And this is something people say about Ireland all the time.

776
00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 3: But like say you're you're saying five million people in Ireland,

777
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:04,720
Speaker 3: five million people in New Zealand roughly. How come everyone's

778
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 3: always talking about Ireland and Irish people. It must be

779
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 3: the most talked about country in the world per head

780
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 3: of population. I don't know if you do this stats

781
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:15,719
Speaker 3: about it, but people you're always Ireland is always on

782
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:16,680
Speaker 3: people's lips, isn't it.

783
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:18,360
Speaker 2: Well it means Ireland Irish.

784
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 1: It tends to come up when I'm being individ that's

785
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:25,280
Speaker 1: because I'm from That reminds you of the Jimmy carriage.

786
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 1: He met a girl called just Alga or something like that,

787
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:30,320
Speaker 1: and he goes, that's not an Emmy here every day.

788
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 2: She goes, I do, that's a good joke.

789
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:38,360
Speaker 1: But I noticed how I'm always keen to credit everybody

790
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 1: who I wouldn't have known.

791
00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:44,960
Speaker 2: I know, that's very honorable.

792
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:47,400
Speaker 4: I reckon as New Zealand is, we're a little bit

793
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:49,480
Speaker 4: jealous of the fact that as a country of the

794
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 4: same size, we struggle for significance and we always wish that,

795
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:57,359
Speaker 4: you know, our identity was a little bit more well known,

796
00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:59,640
Speaker 4: a little bit better. And so when we travel overseas,

797
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:01,719
Speaker 4: people do obviously make means to the fact, you know,

798
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:03,480
Speaker 4: particularly in the States, that we're from New Zealand, but

799
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:04,759
Speaker 4: then nothing about New Zealand.

800
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:06,879
Speaker 1: But it's you suffer from the same thing the Irish

801
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:10,360
Speaker 1: people do, and that you are overshadowed by your louder, bigger,

802
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:13,320
Speaker 1: next door neighbor. It's the same thing as Canadians and Mexicans,

803
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:16,520
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, overshadowed by by the USA. And you know,

804
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:20,400
Speaker 1: we all have that in common. Of the the the scrappy,

805
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:23,719
Speaker 1: younger brother right next door. And I think that's a

806
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:26,799
Speaker 1: I think it's it's very hard not for that not

807
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:29,560
Speaker 1: to be ingrained in a nation psyche.

808
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:32,360
Speaker 2: You know. Yeah. Yeah, And also and I think.

809
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:34,240
Speaker 1: Of yeah, same thing, the same as like I guess

810
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 1: even the Austrian compared to Germany. That's the thing. Like

811
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:40,000
Speaker 1: you know, if you say you know from Germany, no Austria,

812
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:42,560
Speaker 1: you know yourself, you'll be yeah, the same thing.

813
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:45,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, well at the same time, but Orish culture

814
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:49,839
Speaker 4: has spread itself. It has spread itself around the world

815
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:51,719
Speaker 4: in a way that we are jealous of. We are

816
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 4: jealous of how Irish culture for people for a country

817
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 4: as small as Ireland is and as many people as Ireland.

818
00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:02,960
Speaker 4: As Matt said, I think of population far more well.

819
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:06,320
Speaker 1: I guess well, I'd like to think I'm doing my

820
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 1: bit successful people.

821
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:10,360
Speaker 2: Coming out of Ireland as well, well well known people.

822
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:12,319
Speaker 1: But it's an interesting You'll be able to sell more

823
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 1: tickets here than I will in Ireland, right, that's the thing,

824
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:17,560
Speaker 1: you know. I'll come here and do however many you

825
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 1: know in this in this month that I'm here, I'm

826
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:24,279
Speaker 1: hope hopefully I'll sell like eight nine thousand tickets. I

827
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 1: wouldn't do that in a year in Ireland because.

828
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 2: That's because you've been coming since ninety ninety seven. Probably.

829
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:31,840
Speaker 1: I think when I go to Ireland, when I do

830
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:34,319
Speaker 1: gigs in Ireland, people just assume that I'll be there

831
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 1: again the following week. Where people know when I come here,

832
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:40,239
Speaker 1: this is it. Come now, and you won't see me

833
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:42,000
Speaker 1: again until next year or the year after, and you

834
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 1: won't you won't see this show again like this, this

835
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:46,239
Speaker 1: is the show I'm doing. I'm going to be here

836
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:47,839
Speaker 1: now and then that's it.

837
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:50,480
Speaker 6: You won't get to see the show us and some

838
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:54,359
Speaker 6: people a different show because you clearly are not, like

839
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:56,920
Speaker 6: you don't laugh at the first three jokes, and you'll

840
00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:58,240
Speaker 6: get a completely different show together.

841
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:00,200
Speaker 3: Now, I don't don't want to make this whole thing

842
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:01,799
Speaker 3: about Ireland. I don't know how to slipped that way.

843
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 3: But it was just because it was the most fun

844
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:07,520
Speaker 3: things to talk about. But when was it that it changed?

845
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 3: So when I was a kid, people used to make

846
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 3: Irish jokes and then on a dime it flipped to

847
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:16,680
Speaker 3: then Ireland being the most sort of respected and anyone

848
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 3: with an Irish accent would immediately get laid and it

849
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:22,280
Speaker 3: flipped on a dime from people saying, like I remember

850
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 3: a school teacher saying to me once the Irish helicopter joke,

851
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 3: it's got an adjectocy.

852
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 2: There was used to be those jokes around now.

853
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 3: And then it changed really click quickly, and now you

854
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 3: can't even imagine anyone making a joke to say that

855
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:35,920
Speaker 3: Irish people are stupid.

856
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:39,160
Speaker 1: I don't ever think that's about Ireland though those jokes

857
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:42,800
Speaker 1: went in the same Polish jokes in America wand around

858
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:46,920
Speaker 1: the same time those lazy you know jokes, was an

859
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 1: idiot came a joke just kind of just disappeared anyway,

860
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 1: just just.

861
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 2: Of someone's an idiot jokes around.

862
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 1: I mean in Ireland we tell them the same jokes,

863
00:37:57,600 --> 00:37:59,840
Speaker 1: and people told us Irish jokes. We told us carry jokes.

864
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 1: It was the carry man did this out or the

865
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 1: other that was that was, yeah, it was, and it

866
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:06,799
Speaker 1: was the exact same jokes. But those all of those

867
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:10,120
Speaker 1: jokes just disappeared because it's just they were done. I

868
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:13,080
Speaker 1: think generally, I know it sounds where people's sense of

869
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 1: humor just got a little bit more sophisticated. And yeah,

870
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:20,719
Speaker 1: even jokes about Scottish people being mean, stuff like that,

871
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 1: you know, not English and Irish and Scotland jokes. They

872
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 1: just kind of went away because I think people just

873
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 1: got more generally in their humor.

874
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 2: I don't think it's.

875
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:30,279
Speaker 1: People like to talk about that.

876
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:30,719
Speaker 2: It was.

877
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:34,480
Speaker 1: It was, you know, because Ireland suddenly became like top

878
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:36,880
Speaker 1: of our field in information technology and all this kind

879
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 1: of stuff. But I really think that was what it.

880
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 2: Was, right.

881
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 1: It was just that that format of joke just fell

882
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 1: out of favor.

883
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:45,840
Speaker 3: Also possibly going up intned as I was, which is

884
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 3: heavily Scottish. Maybe it was just this as also anti

885
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:50,400
Speaker 3: Irish rhetoric from the Scots.

886
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:54,399
Speaker 2: It possible, Yeah, possible. It's good to know that people

887
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:57,680
Speaker 2: it was it was always light rubbing and if it

888
00:38:57,719 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 2: was itally it was good to get to the bottom

889
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 2: of it. Yeah. Yeah, Ed, thanks for coming in. Thanks

890
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 2: so much so your shows.

891
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:07,480
Speaker 3: You're playing in Auckland twenty five, twenty sixth, and the

892
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:10,280
Speaker 3: eighth and ninth, so you're donating donuting Auckland.

893
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 2: You've got Hastings pumps the North.

894
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:14,839
Speaker 1: I think the twenty fifth is not happening now, that's

895
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:15,799
Speaker 1: the twenty sixth.

896
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:18,919
Speaker 3: The twenty sixth, eighth and ninth. You're in Pumpson North

897
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:23,640
Speaker 3: twenty eighth, twenty ninth, christ It's thirty first, Queenstown first

898
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:26,760
Speaker 3: of August, and Eeding second and Macable third, Nelson sixth,

899
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:33,799
Speaker 3: Hamilton tenth, fourteenth, Totonger fifteenth, Takapuna sixteenth, and Wellington on

900
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:36,960
Speaker 3: the seventeenth. But when you look at that, does that

901
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:37,440
Speaker 3: seem like it?

902
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:40,600
Speaker 2: It seems like a lot. That seems like a lot sounds.

903
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:42,719
Speaker 1: A long way to come. I may as well go everywhere.

904
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 1: And it's some beautiful country. I'm not just saying that.

905
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:46,520
Speaker 1: I do like troubling around it.

906
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:49,239
Speaker 3: Oh good, well, thanks for coming in and thanks for

907
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 3: coming back.

908
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:53,799
Speaker 2: Cheers it. Thank you, Ed.

909
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:56,439
Speaker 4: I'm going to see you again in about three hours time,

910
00:39:56,480 --> 00:40:02,400
Speaker 4: all right because TV, Thank you bags.

911
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:06,879
Speaker 3: Furious conversation there. Yeah, you did stay true to yours

912
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:08,320
Speaker 3: that you were going to say.

913
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 2: What time do you call this? Yeah, made it awkward

914
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 2: at the start. He didn't. Then I released the valve,

915
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 2: appreciated me for saying that. Yeah, the interview. The interview

916
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:20,160
Speaker 2: didn't really come back. No, that's that's what happens when

917
00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 2: you do that.

918
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:22,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, when you when you're sort of we've got to

919
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:24,879
Speaker 3: be prepared to stay true so we just had to go.

920
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 2: Full island for the whole duration, just talk about what

921
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:27,839
Speaker 2: he knows.

922
00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:31,160
Speaker 3: There was an exercise and just overcoming the hurdle of

923
00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:33,719
Speaker 3: your first question that I had to ask.

924
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:35,480
Speaker 2: I know, you didn't. I'm not blaming it. You had to.

925
00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:36,719
Speaker 2: You said you would, and you did it, and I

926
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:39,799
Speaker 2: respect that. But but Jeremy, you've got a mate. There

927
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:41,879
Speaker 2: was some collateral damage. Yeah, he didn't shake my hand

928
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:44,200
Speaker 2: at the end. No, he didn't. He did not shake

929
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 2: your hand at the end. No. No, And that's going

930
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 2: to be awkward for that seven sharp interview coming out.

931
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:54,279
Speaker 2: I've got another interview. Yeah yeah, yeah, okay, so cool.

932
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:55,560
Speaker 2: I mean, how do you feel about it?

933
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:56,160
Speaker 1: You?

934
00:40:56,880 --> 00:41:00,719
Speaker 2: I mean with it? Okay, yeah, fine with it? Yeah. Yeah.

935
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:04,359
Speaker 2: I liked him. I liked him too, smart guy. Yeah,

936
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:05,120
Speaker 2: I like him a lot.

937
00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 4: I like them, I like them heaps.

938
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:09,399
Speaker 2: I liked him.

939
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:12,839
Speaker 3: I think I liked him more than you liked him.

940
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 3: And I definitely liked him more than he liked you.

941
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:18,880
Speaker 4: Well, it was easy for him to dislike me because

942
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 4: I asked that first question and I noticed that. So

943
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:25,840
Speaker 4: he was definitely favoring you more than he was favoring me.

944
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 4: But you know, as I said, that's just the way

945
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 4: it goes. I mean, someone's got to ask the hard questions.

946
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:31,919
Speaker 2: Do you reckon?

947
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 3: This is quite a shitty setup we've got here in

948
00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:36,080
Speaker 3: the studio. I mean, I know this podcast is getting

949
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 3: quite long now, but there's a shitty set up in

950
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 3: the studio where our guests have to flip their heads

951
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:43,759
Speaker 3: back and forth between us, so they're raither looking at

952
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:44,440
Speaker 3: you or looking at me.

953
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:47,920
Speaker 2: It must be tough. It's it's imagine doing that.

954
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:52,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, well it's better than it's better than some

955
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:54,359
Speaker 4: other ways some have they he was facing.

956
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 2: The wall, and good look at any of us.

957
00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:57,960
Speaker 3: I know, but we could kill us to have a

958
00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:00,640
Speaker 3: cafe environment where we've got a smaller table, all sitting

959
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:01,360
Speaker 3: closer together.

960
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 2: So I mean, I get it, I get.

961
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 3: It Ruder and Mash, But I mean, in a minute,

962
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:07,800
Speaker 3: I've got the same problem with Ruder and Mash exactly.

963
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 4: It's fine, you can actually talk to people that are

964
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:15,200
Speaker 4: around from you. The worst is when both of us

965
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:17,879
Speaker 4: are double ending. You know, both of us are coming

966
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 4: in from one end from one end, like if we

967
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 4: were both sitting at it. It's an interrogation technique. So

968
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:25,440
Speaker 4: if we were sitting at the same table facing the guests,

969
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:27,400
Speaker 4: and the guest was just facing us at a single

970
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:30,479
Speaker 4: disc like in a school disc. And that's horrific because

971
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:32,319
Speaker 4: you get you get smashed in the face by two

972
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 4: people at the same time. This is this is far

973
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:37,600
Speaker 4: better experience what it's like to be on the receiving

974
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 4: end of the double double ending, double ended dildo.

975
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 2: You I think between two beers, we'll double engine. Yep,

976
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:46,440
Speaker 2: they double they'll double engine. It's really full on. Yeah,

977
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:47,920
Speaker 2: there'll be a DP situation.

978
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:50,760
Speaker 3: Well, when I'm in doob with my thumb up my ass,

979
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 3: I'm right behind Jerry the whole morning, just hanging out

980
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 3: at the back of him.

981
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:56,560
Speaker 2: The whole morning. I can see you and Mash.

982
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:59,879
Speaker 1: Really well, but unfortunately I can never see Jerry's face.

983
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 3: I very really look at Jerry because there's an alley

984
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:05,840
Speaker 3: just behind us here, and so I mainly spend the

985
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:08,280
Speaker 3: morning watching bay belly.

986
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:11,959
Speaker 2: Excuse me, who babelly? Who's baby belly belly?

987
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 3: Is that Kirsty sister's bellybelly? Not only not only out

988
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:21,319
Speaker 3: there now, but let's just coming down baby belly now?

989
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:25,000
Speaker 2: Hot vapor out there her? What about the big vapor?

990
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:29,720
Speaker 2: Nice not my not my cup of coffee. That's fine,

991
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:33,400
Speaker 2: it's fine, that's fine. That's what what's that description?

992
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:40,319
Speaker 4: It's fine, fine, it's fine. That's dehumanizing, that's fine.

993
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:45,360
Speaker 5: Do you know if there's an idea were great people,

994
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 5: should we do a podcast from Bolly.

995
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:49,920
Speaker 2: Let's do it out there in Bay Belly, down the

996
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:51,719
Speaker 2: wind tunnel. I'll set up the podcast out there. It'll

997
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:56,400
Speaker 2: be we'll bring a jacket and Jerry, all right, what

998
00:43:56,680 --> 00:44:00,759
Speaker 2: do you think there? She looked at you. That's fine,

999
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 2: that's a past mark. That's fine. This has got it.

1000
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:06,160
Speaker 2: This is the whole that's fine.

1001
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 4: Thing that's I find that so disturbing. Do you I'd

1002
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:13,360
Speaker 4: rather deliver a number then that's fine, Like that's Jerry.

1003
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:16,720
Speaker 3: Over the years, I've become to be non judgmental about

1004
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:18,920
Speaker 3: what goes up and down Bay Belly and just appreciate

1005
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:19,799
Speaker 3: what's served up to me.

1006
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:21,920
Speaker 2: I mean, we don't all get to look at me, or.

1007
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:23,920
Speaker 3: You get you get the pleasure of just staring at

1008
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 3: me the whole fucking show. And that's that's like feast

1009
00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:30,320
Speaker 3: your eyes, mate, feast your eyes. This way we we

1010
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 3: we me into a lesser restinct mess because he has

1011
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:34,800
Speaker 3: to move his head about thirteen degrees.

1012
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 2: That's not anything about that. That's not okay, that's not okay,

1013
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:44,120
Speaker 2: but interesting, but she mess You see them arriving a

1014
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:46,920
Speaker 2: so I often see you. You. You you'll spark.

1015
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:49,359
Speaker 3: Up when someone's coming down because you see that you're

1016
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:53,560
Speaker 3: a bar up it just like, hell, I don't You'll

1017
00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:55,200
Speaker 3: just so you just and.

1018
00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:57,000
Speaker 2: Then I'll say I want to and I'll be like,

1019
00:44:57,400 --> 00:44:58,719
Speaker 2: I wonder what's coming down baby belly.

1020
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:00,400
Speaker 5: Okay, Well, if you're really like if you my honest

1021
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 5: pinning the four pillars of Bay Belly, Marcus medicine number one.

1022
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:07,240
Speaker 2: Yep, oh God, number two. Careful Laura, my girlfriend.

1023
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 5: There's going to be controversial that she was number two

1024
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 5: in terms of the four pillars, no particular order.

1025
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:23,760
Speaker 2: Number three. Delete that that little delay delay this podcast

1026
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:27,319
Speaker 2: before we leave.

1027
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:29,480
Speaker 4: You might get baby Belly. I get the bait catcher.

1028
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:31,840
Speaker 4: You can't see the bait catcher behind you.

1029
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 2: Excuse me. Sometimes you miss out on the bait.

1030
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:37,040
Speaker 3: Or you find muppets that are too dumb to work

1031
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:38,239
Speaker 3: out that you have to press a button made for

1032
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:39,960
Speaker 3: the daughter, get caught in the bake catcher.

1033
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:42,840
Speaker 2: That's a real mix of the it's hilarious.

1034
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:44,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, okay tomorrow podcasts from belly.

1035
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:49,439
Speaker 4: All right, I can't delete this, delete delete, delate all.

1036
00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 2: Hello, I'm Matt Heath.

1037
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:55,360
Speaker 3: You have been listening to the Mat and Jerry Daily

1038
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:58,359
Speaker 3: Bespoke podcast. Right now you can listen to our Radio

1039
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:03,320
Speaker 3: Highlights podcast, which you will absolutely get barred up about anyway,

1040
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 3: Sit to download, like, subscribe, writer, review all those great things.

1041
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:09,240
Speaker 3: It really helps myself and Jerry and to a lesser extent,

1042
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:11,840
Speaker 3: Messi Ruder. If you want to discuss anything raised in

1043
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:14,160
Speaker 3: this pod, check out the Conclave, a Matt and Jerry

1044
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 3: Facebook discussion group. And while I'm plugging stuff, my book,

1045
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:19,680
Speaker 3: A Lifeless Punishing Thirteen Ways to Love the Life.

1046
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:22,000
Speaker 2: You've Got is out now get it wherever you get

1047
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:26,240
Speaker 2: your books, or just google the bastard. Anyway you seem busy,

1048
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:28,960
Speaker 2: I'll let you go. Bless blessed, blessed, give them a

1049
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 2: taste of key we from me,