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Speaker 1: Pressing the newsmakers to get the real story. It's Heather

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Speaker 1: Duplicy Ellen drive with One New Zealand. Let's get connected,

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Speaker 1: you stalk said.

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Speaker 2: Be.

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Speaker 3: Afternoon, Welcome to the show. Coming up today, Nicole McKee

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Speaker 3: says she's going to rewrite the country's gun laws, so

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Speaker 3: we'll have a chat to her about that. Half the five,

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Speaker 3: it has emerged that Houth New Zealand has now ordered

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Speaker 3: a hiring freeze. They say, not for the frontline medical staff.

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Speaker 3: That's not convincing. Everyone will get the details and Corey Jane,

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Speaker 3: the Hurricanes' assistant coach, on the Super Rugby playoffs this weekend.

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Speaker 1: Ever, Duplicy Ellen, Oh you know.

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Speaker 3: What today is, don't you? Well, she probably don't. You're

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Speaker 3: not enough of a nerd. Let me tell you. Today

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Speaker 3: is forty years to the day since Rob muldoon called

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Speaker 3: the snap election, which then of course led to his defeat,

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Speaker 3: which then of course led to the incoming Labor government

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Speaker 3: realized we were nearly broke as a country, which then

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Speaker 3: lead to them embarking on the most amazing set of

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Speaker 3: reforms which they do not get enough credit for to

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Speaker 3: this day and get way too much grieful it is

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Speaker 3: a really interesting anniversary for us to mark right now,

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Speaker 3: as we find ourselves in a recession that feels like

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Speaker 3: the worst that many of us have ever experienced, as

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Speaker 3: we watch old names in New Zealand like Smith and

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Speaker 3: Coe give up, as we see projections that the country's

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Speaker 3: debt will just keep growing. Because today Roger Douglas, well,

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Speaker 3: of course, one of the primary architect of those reforms

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Speaker 3: back in nineteen eighty four. Today, Roger Douglas has given

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Speaker 3: today as we were back in nineteen eighty four. By

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Speaker 3: the way, if you ask them, why is Roger Douglas

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Speaker 3: piping up again? He's not stopped day the man. You

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Speaker 3: cannot stop the man. He's still pouring over all the

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Speaker 3: government financials, still publishing his ideas, still calling journalists, you know,

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Speaker 3: to tell us what he thinks is going wrong with

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Speaker 3: the country. And in this particular interview, he points to

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Speaker 3: a treasury paper containing long term fiscal projections and he says,

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Speaker 3: if we carry on spending the way that we are,

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Speaker 3: if you look at this paper, what's going on in there,

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Speaker 3: We're going to go broke. In particular, what he's worried

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Speaker 3: about is the projections for the cost explosion that's coming

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Speaker 3: for the debt that we're racking up. He points to

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Speaker 3: health specifically. He says it's currently seven percent of GDP.

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Speaker 3: In thirty five years, many of us will still be

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Speaker 3: alive by that time, it will be eleven percent. Now,

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Speaker 3: that is just health, never mind the pension, never mind education,

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Speaker 3: never mind the cost of the debt. And he is

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Speaker 3: worried that the debt is going to blow out in

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Speaker 3: this country. And he's right to be worried about it,

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Speaker 3: because if you just look at the budget documents that

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Speaker 3: going anywhere other than up. It just gets burger and

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Speaker 3: bigger and bigger every single year. Now, you tell me

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Speaker 3: that he's wrong, and I'm not being miserable about it.

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Speaker 3: I just want to be realistic about it. You tell

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Speaker 3: me that you disagree with him, that we are in

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Speaker 3: the same position that we were in nineteen ninty four.

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Speaker 3: Our country is in a structural deficit at the moment.

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Speaker 3: It means that we spend more every single year than

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Speaker 3: we earn. As a country. Our infrastructure is getting old.

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Speaker 3: Everything is going backwards, from crime to the education system.

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Speaker 3: We are tied up in red tape and dumb rules

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Speaker 3: in this country. So he's right, isn't he. So here's

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Speaker 3: hoping the country and the government have the intelligence and

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Speaker 3: the courage to do some radical things to fix this,

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Speaker 3: just like the government they came in forty years ago.

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Speaker 3: Heather due for see Allen ninet two ninety two is

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Speaker 3: the text number standard text fes play. I'm sure that

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Speaker 3: Barry Soper will be talking. He'll tell us a story

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Speaker 3: about Muldoon, won't he? It will be our story about

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Speaker 3: Muldoon when he's back with us. Never misses the opportunity.

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Speaker 3: He's with us in just over half an hour now,

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Speaker 3: The Taxpayers Union says the government shouldn't be giving out

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Speaker 3: any more film subsidies because we're just not getting bang

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Speaker 3: South Pacific Pictures boss John Barnett, the Film Commission has

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Speaker 3: spent get this, eighty eight million dollars of taxpayer money

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Speaker 3: on fifty four movies over the last few years. How

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Speaker 3: much did those movies make in the total New Zealand

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Speaker 3: box office take fourteen million dollars. The Taxpayers Union says

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Speaker 3: will be much better just to give the eighty eight

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Speaker 3: Hey John, I'm very well thank you. What do you reckon?

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Speaker 3: Do we ask the subsidies?

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Speaker 4: No, because living in a country, any country, you wanted

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Speaker 4: to reflect a whole lot of aspects of yourself and

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but what's the Point's But what's the point in

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Speaker 3: them telling the stories of absolutely none of us are

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Speaker 3: watching the stories?

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Speaker 4: Well, then I think that's about we should be smarter

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Speaker 4: about what we put our money into, as opposed to

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Speaker 4: indulging every idea that comes across the counter. So I

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Speaker 4: think that's where wiseness spending rather than us throwing around.

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Speaker 4: And just as an example, use in and on air

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Speaker 4: under the fantastic show which is on the spinoff called Juggernaut,

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Speaker 4: which is exactly I think at least today, and it's

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Speaker 4: exactly about the history of the incoming Logger government and

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Speaker 4: the nineteen eighty four lesson and it's electrified.

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Speaker 3: Have you watched it?

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Speaker 4: No? It's actually it's a podcast.

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Speaker 3: That was actually it's going to be my weekend listening.

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Speaker 4: It should be. Roger Douglas is very funny and quoted

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Speaker 4: at length, and he's going to the cast of all

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Speaker 4: the stars of the We're Alive from that time. And

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Speaker 4: that's part of the thing that funding for film and

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Speaker 4: television and audio visual stuff goes into it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, I see what your point. But okay, so

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Speaker 3: the Chloe Swarbrick documentary, do you reckon we should be

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Speaker 3: putting money into that because the film commission is well.

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Speaker 4: I I think that there are two essential questions that

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Speaker 4: that is who is your audience and how you're going

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Speaker 4: at a number of the things that have been made,

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Speaker 4: they would have said, look, we don't think we should

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Speaker 4: and a make cost less. And I think those are

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Speaker 4: the kind of things that we have to look at.

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Speaker 4: And the New Zealand t Commission was set up forty

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Speaker 4: it was to enable New Zealanders to see stories about

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Speaker 4: themselves told by themselves. And the successes include the whole

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Speaker 4: the Taxis Union to say the money should go somewhere else,

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Speaker 4: because there's always somewhere else it should go. But you

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Speaker 5: Or support.

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Speaker 3: Do the people in the film commission have the expertise

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Speaker 3: like that? Are they actually any good at that?

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Speaker 4: From time to time they have been. But I think

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Speaker 4: if you look at the chart that I prepared, which

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Speaker 4: don't know that I would have put money up. I mean,

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Speaker 4: there are all sorts of ways that you can You

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Speaker 4: can tell you can ask a local distributor if they're

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Speaker 4: interested in putting up some money in the hope of

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Speaker 4: getting it back, and if they say no, then you

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Speaker 4: wouldn't make it beca nobody.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, fair enough, John, Thank you, I really appreciated good

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Speaker 3: work on putting that chart together. That's John Bunnett, former

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Speaker 3: South Pacific Pictures chief executive. Heather what's the long e

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Speaker 3: podcast called. It's called Juggernaut. I've been waiting for it.

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Speaker 3: I'm very excited about this. Actually, listen, this news has

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Speaker 3: say hour or so, a man has been charged with

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Speaker 3: murdering baby Mustafa and Tikowitti Police have confirmed today they've

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Speaker 3: charged a twenty two year old man with murder. He

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Speaker 3: are not able because of a convention to name him

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Speaker 3: and thereafter, you know, you just deal with or whatever.

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Speaker 3: So let's see what happens tomorrow. Tomorrow, the name may

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Speaker 3: be revealed quarter past.

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Speaker 1: Digging deeper into the day's headlines, it's Heather Duper c

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Speaker 1: Allen Drive with one New Zealand one Giant Leaf for

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Speaker 1: business US talks.

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Speaker 3: That'd be right with me.

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Speaker 6: Now?

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Speaker 3: Is Jason Pye host a Week in Sport? Hate Poney?

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Speaker 7: Can I Heather?

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Speaker 3: Okay? Tell me who's going to win the Semis then

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Speaker 3: Super ragby Semis?

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Speaker 8: Well boyf for bet the Brambis Okay tonight, I think

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Speaker 8: that that of the two is the easier one to pick.

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Speaker 9: No.

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Speaker 8: Australian Scientific up to New Zealand and won a playoff game.

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Speaker 8: I don't think that'll continue tonight. Rubablys are okay, pretty

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Speaker 8: good at home, but I think the Blues will win

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Speaker 8: this one tomorrow. Coin flip for me at sky Stadium,

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Speaker 8: Hurricanes Chiefs two terrific sides finding a really nice little

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Speaker 8: In fact, the Hurricanes have been pretty good right throughout

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Speaker 8: the whole season. Both previous matches this season have been

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Speaker 8: won by the Hurricanes one and Wellington won in Hamilton,

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Speaker 8: home advantage over thirty thousand coming to sky Stadium. I'm

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Speaker 8: just going to give it to the Hurricanes, but with

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Speaker 8: absolutely no degree of overriding certainty about that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I mean, once again, though, Pint, that's

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Speaker 3: going to be You're right, that's going to be the

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Speaker 3: match to watch this week. You know, the Blues matches

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Speaker 3: is another one of those is to give me, isn't it?

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Speaker 8: And so it seems like, well, I mean, I mean,

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Speaker 8: you want the Brumbies to turn up. You want it

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Speaker 8: to be a contest, just like tomorrow will be. But

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Speaker 8: I just don't know. The Blues are a good team.

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Speaker 8: I mean it, don't take it away from them. They

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Speaker 8: deserve to be favorites tonight, and as I say, I

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Speaker 8: think they should want it going on by thirteen plus.

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Speaker 3: The Warriors have not beat the Melbourne Storm since twenty fifteen.

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Speaker 3: Do you reckon they can do it?

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Speaker 10: I reckon they can, you know, I reckon they can.

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Speaker 8: We didn't think they'd win a couple of weeks ago,

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Speaker 8: and the week before that, those games against the Panthers

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Speaker 8: and the Dolphins, they were missing a whole bunch of players.

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Speaker 8: They got a few of them back last week and

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Speaker 8: did a really good job on the Cowboys. Storm are

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Speaker 8: a good team obviously, But it just I mean, these

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Speaker 8: streaks are meant to be broken at some stage, and

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Speaker 8: if it won't happen tomorrow night, from of a sold

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Speaker 8: out crowd at Mount Smart with Shawn Johnson back in

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Speaker 8: the seven Jersey Tahoo Harris back to lead the side

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Speaker 8: and a real optimism around this team. Then I can't

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Speaker 8: of wonder whether it ever will. It was a won

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Speaker 8: to try in round two that denied them. I don't

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Speaker 8: reckon they're tonight tomorrow night. I reckon the Warriors get

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Speaker 3: They don't worry about the film commission. It could be worse.

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Speaker 3: It could have been a Chloe or a Justinda documentary.

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Speaker 3: Yesterday I told you that Elon Musk had said that

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Speaker 3: Who are you, Roger Douglas? Now the government has announced

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Speaker 3: The shops record the firearms license number and items sold.

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Speaker 3: The G seven countries have signed a deal to provide

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Speaker 3: War and Peace for Cats. War and Peace Brackets for

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Speaker 1: International Correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance, Peace of Mind

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Speaker 3: Whether I am the PI looking for Tom. This is

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Speaker 13: to loan the money, and like you said in World Wires,

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Speaker 13: it's you know, it's profits for all these Russian investments.

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Speaker 13: We know the relationship Donald Trump has with Russia right now.

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Speaker 13: So I think that's going to play a play into

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Speaker 13: this whole scenario if he gets into the office.

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Speaker 3: Hey, how does Mason go with the House Republicans.

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Speaker 13: You know, it's a cliche to say if I was

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Speaker 13: a fly on the wall, But if I was a

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Speaker 13: fly in the wall, I think this would have been

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Speaker 13: interesting today. It's like it was more of a gripe

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Speaker 13: session to tell you the truth, and anything else. This

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Speaker 13: was the first time mister Trump had been back to

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Speaker 13: the Capitol campus area since he left office after the

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Speaker 13: riots in January of twenty twenty one, and he held

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Speaker 13: a meeting where he apparently just complained about everything and anything,

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Speaker 13: his legal challenges, he was attacking his critics, he was

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Speaker 13: attacking Taylor Swift, so a house speaker, Nancy Pelosi, and

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Speaker 13: he warned of Republicans also not to be afraid of

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Speaker 13: a number of hot button issues. At the top of

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Speaker 13: his list was abortion. He talked considerably about Roe v. Wade,

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Speaker 13: and it just seemed like there were a number of

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Speaker 13: moments where he went off topic. And it was just

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Speaker 13: more of a get together with a you know, a

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Speaker 13: bunch of guys in a lounge, and it was a

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Speaker 13: formal meeting of GOP leaders.

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Speaker 3: And there is hey on Elon Musk, how long is

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Speaker 3: he going to have to waite to get his hands

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Speaker 3: on the dollars.

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Speaker 13: Well, that's a good question, because this is over fifty

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Speaker 13: I can't even say this fifty six billion dollar pay package.

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Speaker 13: And this was avoided by a judge a few years back,

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Speaker 13: but he won the backing of shareholders today. In fact,

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Speaker 13: he was pretty sure he was going to get this

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Speaker 13: in When it was announced in Austin, Texas. The crowd

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Speaker 13: cheered after the announcement. But the judge who struck down

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Speaker 13: the compensation earlier this year is likely going to ask

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Speaker 13: to rule again whether this vote is fair under the

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Speaker 13: state's business laws. And last week we had a different

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Speaker 13: shareholder here that was involved in another case. He filed

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Speaker 13: a new lawsuit arguing that the second vote should be

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Speaker 13: ruled in ballid.

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Speaker 3: So would he like to.

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Speaker 13: Get his hands on the money?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 13: Does he need it?

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Speaker 7: Right now?

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Speaker 13: He's probably doing Okay, how long is it going to take?

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Speaker 13: I mean that's really going to be up to the

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Speaker 13: judge and how long it takes for this judge to rule.

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Speaker 13: I think very.

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Speaker 3: Interesting stuff, Dan, Thanks for talking. I started enjoy your

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Speaker 3: weekend mate. This Dan Mitchison, US correspondent, hither speaking about

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Speaker 3: movies matter Kopper Dad and his Missing Kids will be

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Speaker 3: a movie one day, Tammy bang On And would you

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Speaker 3: not go and see that? I would go and see that.

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Speaker 3: I'd be hard out into watching that film. Got to

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Speaker 3: get another sign because you know how I feel about

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Speaker 3: the working from home. I don't think it's the future.

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Speaker 3: I think it's just gen Z as being lazy any

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Speaker 3: opportunity to have a crack at the gen Za anyway.

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Speaker 3: Here's another sign that working from home is not the answer.

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Speaker 3: Wells Fargo, you know, the big bank has fired over

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Speaker 3: a dozen employees in the last few weeks for pretending

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Speaker 3: to be at their computers when they're not at their computers.

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Speaker 3: Right now, you can do this hard way, or when

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Speaker 3: you want to pretend to be at your computer when

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Speaker 3: you're not, you can do it the hard way or

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Speaker 3: the easy way. The hard way is that you have

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Speaker 3: to be near your computer and you just have to

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Speaker 3: keep moving your mouse every now and again while you

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Speaker 3: read a book or play on your phone or watch

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Speaker 3: a movie or whatever. The easy way is that you

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Speaker 3: get these really easily obtainable tools. Right you can get

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Speaker 3: the stuff on Amazon from about twenty bucks American software

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Speaker 3: or hardware, which are of the two. You go for it,

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Speaker 3: and you would put it on your computer and it

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Speaker 3: makes it look like your mouse is moving and your

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Speaker 3: keyboard is typing when it's not. It just basically keeps

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Speaker 3: your computer from going into sleep mode. That's what these

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Speaker 3: people were using. They were doing that they were creating

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Speaker 3: the impression that they were working. They weren't working. They

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Speaker 3: got the sack, Very Soper. Next sixteen away from.

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Speaker 1: Five politics was centrics credit, check your customers and get payments.

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Speaker 3: Certainday, very sober, senior political correspondence with us. Now, Hey, Barry,

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Speaker 3: Good afternoon, Heather. Forty years to the day since the

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Speaker 3: snap election was called. Seems like yesterday, doesn't it. Just you'll, mate,

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Speaker 3: Muldoon was still alive.

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Speaker 7: Well, I'd remind you listeners.

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Speaker 10: The reason why it was called was Marilyn Wearing was

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Speaker 10: supporting the Labor parties proposed nuclear free New Zealand policy,

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Speaker 10: and the majority was so slim that Muldoon decided that

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Speaker 10: he wouldn't take the chance. I became known as the

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Speaker 10: Schnap's election after I interviewed him daily during the campaign.

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Speaker 10: But I was up at Government House when he prorogued Parliament,

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Speaker 10: and my memory of it was the Government House butler

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Speaker 10: ferrying into a little anti room of the entrance a

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Speaker 10: glass of scotch, and he did that several times, and

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Speaker 10: by the time that Muldoon emerged onto the steps at

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Speaker 10: Government House was only myself and another reporter there. He

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Speaker 10: was absolutely incoherent and the Governor General, David Beattie. He

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Speaker 10: had to take over the interview whilst Muldourn was bundled

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Speaker 10: into his lted limo taken back to Parliament to sober up. Now,

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Speaker 10: when Muldoon got back to Parliament, they worked to sober

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Speaker 10: him up, there's no doubt about that. Before he faced

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Speaker 10: the media en mass. This is probably his most immortal slur.

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Speaker 6: We got a date, the fourteenth of July, which we've

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Speaker 6: worked out at Government Houses being the appropriate date.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't give you much time to run up to

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Speaker 1: an election, prom Minister.

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Speaker 6: Doesn't give my appunished much time to run up to

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Speaker 6: all election, does it?

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Speaker 7: I certainly didn't.

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Speaker 10: And I remember the Tom Scott cartoon that appeared in

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Speaker 10: the news for the next morning. It was Muldourn waking

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Speaker 10: up in bed next to his wife was there, but

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Speaker 10: he used to call a Tam waiting waking up with

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Speaker 10: the party hats on the bed and the streamers and

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Speaker 10: Muldourn looking at Tam saying did I say something about

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Speaker 10: a snap election last night? And it was probably very true.

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Speaker 10: But the drinking continued through the campaign and on the

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Speaker 10: Thursday night when he wrapped up his campaign, I remember

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Speaker 10: he arrived at the Auckland town Hall and he was

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Speaker 10: batting off protesters and I said to him, Prime Minister,

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Speaker 10: can I interview you about the election campaign and how

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Speaker 10: it's gone. He said, ash, come and see me in

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Speaker 10: my room an hour after.

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Speaker 7: I've finished speaking.

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Speaker 10: I think that was his biggest mistake, because by the

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Speaker 10: time I got there, he was slumped in an armchair,

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Speaker 10: little wists of hair hanging over his shoulder, tie undone,

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Speaker 10: and lying on the floor by his side was nept

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Speaker 10: bottle of red wine. I gin reflected as radio reporters do,

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Speaker 10: and put a microphone up to his mouth and I said, Primers.

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Speaker 7: Do you think you've won the election?

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Speaker 10: He goes, he waved, waggles his head from side to side,

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Speaker 10: and I said, Prime, as to this is radio, you've

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Speaker 10: got to speak. Ask the question again. Do you believe

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Speaker 10: he won the election? Marldon goes Nope, and I thought,

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Speaker 10: my god, I've got an absolute scoop here, And of

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Speaker 10: course he was.

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Speaker 7: He was conceding defeat.

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Speaker 10: On the Thursday night before the election, all my colleagues

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Speaker 10: had repaired to the bar at the hotel because they

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Speaker 10: hadn't fortunately got an interview with Muldoon. He was on

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Speaker 10: radio first thing the next morning.

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Speaker 3: You ran it the next morning.

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Speaker 10: Oh, we ran it the next morning. He called a

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Speaker 10: press conference at eight o'clock and he are sitting in

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Speaker 10: the front row of the press conference and he denied

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Speaker 10: all knowledge of the interview, which was probably true. Probably

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Speaker 10: couldn't remember me.

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Speaker 3: Say that it was taken out of.

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Speaker 10: Context, and that he might have said was taken out

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Speaker 10: of context.

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Speaker 7: I said, but Prime Minister I was there. You said

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Speaker 7: it to man.

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Speaker 10: No, no, no, you twisting things again, mister Soper. So

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Speaker 10: and that was the end of it. And it was

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Speaker 10: the end of Muldoon of course, that snap election. Roger

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Speaker 10: Douglas I heard you referred to earlier. Interestingly, he laid

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Speaker 10: what became the economic foundation for New Zealand. And without

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Speaker 10: that foundation being laid, this country probably would have been

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Speaker 10: in an even worse state than it is today because

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Speaker 10: we haven't wavered from that through various hues of government.

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Speaker 3: Yep, absolutely, Hey, Willie Jackson, So will he believes everything

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Speaker 3: was just absolutely ten sweet it does.

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Speaker 10: I mean, it's incredible that he was on AM this

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Speaker 10: morning on TV three and he was bitter about the

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Speaker 10: Coalition government scrapping the climate change initiative. Hey Wakanoa and

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Speaker 10: he said, to years of work, everybody had come together.

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Speaker 10: He seemed confused though, when he claimed that farmers had

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Speaker 10: agreed to the Emissions Trading Act coming into force for

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Speaker 10: them next year. Haven't listened to what he had to say.

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Speaker 2: Twenty one years ago, all the nut jobs right coming

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Speaker 2: up the steps of Parliament. We get this wonderful Prime

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Speaker 2: Minister just In and he says, I don't want that anymore. Industry.

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Speaker 2: We're going to work together. All the industry heads come together,

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Speaker 2: Federated farmers you know, beef lamb and beef for the

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Speaker 2: Maley Federation of all that. Everyone comes together. We work

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Speaker 2: on an agreement where the industry actually looks like it's

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Speaker 2: going to pay its way. It's sadly our environmentalist kill us.

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Speaker 2: Some of the nutjob farmers say no, no, no, But

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Speaker 2: we actually had an agreement, we had a commitment. We

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Speaker 2: had a wonderful Prime minister and just Into a journe

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Speaker 2: who started this.

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Speaker 7: Talk about being out to luncheon twenty one years ago.

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Speaker 10: Just to remind listeners that it was another man, but

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Speaker 10: with the name of the turn. It was Shana Dern

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Speaker 10: Shane who drove Myrtle his massy Ferguson. But this was

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Speaker 10: the day of politics. It was great, drove it up

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Speaker 10: the front steps of Parliament to oppose what they then

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Speaker 10: called the fart taxt yes, and he was ushered out

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Speaker 10: on the plane.

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Speaker 3: Will He's going to have to find a new way

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Speaker 3: of trying to convince voters to vote for the Labor

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Speaker 3: Party again, because reminding us that the Prime Minister was

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Speaker 3: wonderful is only going to repel us further. A winning

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Speaker 3: stress not going to do his chances in hand all

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Speaker 3: of her. Then no, hey, thank you, Barry. Will wrap

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Speaker 3: the political week that was at quarter past six again

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Speaker 3: Barry so Per, senior political correspondent putting the.

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Speaker 1: Tough questions to the newspeakers. The mic asking Breakfast.

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Speaker 15: Retirement Commission has got a bunch of ideas to boost

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Speaker 15: our qv Saber potterfole contribution should be rising from three

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Speaker 15: to four percent. Employers match that. Sam Stubbs, founder of

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Speaker 15: course of the que Saber Scheme Simplicity, is back with us.

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Speaker 15: Her ideas and your ideas do they align broadly or not?

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Speaker 16: Not perfectly? Mike, I mean I think she wants contributions

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Speaker 16: to rise one percent. But if you look at IZI

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Speaker 16: there paying twelve percent, So you have got five times

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Speaker 16: our population, but they've got thirty five times our savings,

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Speaker 16: so we're not saving nearly enough. But she has to

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Speaker 16: introduce this idea gradually because you know it starts to

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Speaker 16: a cost a living crisis. She was to say that

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Speaker 16: give we save the contributions to go from three to twelve.

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Speaker 16: Send everybody would.

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Speaker 15: Laugh back Monday from six am, The Mike Asking Breakfast

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Speaker 15: with Jaguae News Talk zib B.

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Speaker 3: Here the Willy's on crack. The government wouldn't listen to anyone.

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Speaker 3: Willy is on crack. I mean he's not like, I

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Speaker 3: don't mean like literally WILLI is on crack. Willie's not

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Speaker 3: literally on crack. Willy is metaphorically on crack, but he

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Speaker 3: has been for a very long time. You know how

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Speaker 3: Willy's metaphorically on crack. You know how you know that

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Speaker 3: because he's saying literally the opposite of Chris Hopkins. Right,

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Speaker 3: So he's saying, at the moment, oh, it's wonderful, everything

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Speaker 3: was wonderful, we had this wonderful agreement. Oh it's just great.

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Speaker 3: Well today Chris Hopkins was at Field Days and he

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Speaker 3: spoke to our mate Jamie McKay on the country and

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Speaker 3: he revealed in fact, things had got so bad by

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Speaker 3: the time he became Prime Minister, like when he took

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Speaker 3: over from just into the relationship with farmers was so

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Speaker 3: bad they couldn't do anything.

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Speaker 8: The relationships were not in a place where we could

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Speaker 8: have some of the constructive conversations that we needed to

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Speaker 8: be having. And so part of being here is there's

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Speaker 8: a chance for us to change that.

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Speaker 3: Okay, we're trying to suck up to farmers. Willy stop, stop,

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Speaker 3: stop playing. It's not going to work for Willy to

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Speaker 3: be playing the old revisionist game, is it? Because I

676
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Speaker 3: think too many of us have brains in this country. Anyway,

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Speaker 3: maybe he doesn't surround himself with many of us, but anyway,

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Speaker 3: berg Rugby weekend. By the way, we're going to talk

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Speaker 3: a bit about the rugby in the next hour or

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Speaker 3: so because we've got a big rugby weekend for Wellington

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Speaker 3: because tomorrow night the Hurricanes will be hosting their first

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Speaker 3: rugby semi final at Sky Stadium in eight years. That's

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Speaker 3: a long time between drinks for the Hurricanes. We're going

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Speaker 3: to play the Chiefs, so that's a tough game. The

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Speaker 3: Chiefs are on pretty good form this year. I'm going

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Speaker 3: to have a chat to Cory Jane. Cory Jane is

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Speaker 3: now part of the team's coaching setup. He will be

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Speaker 3: with us in about twenty minutes time. But straight after

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Speaker 3: the news talking to Nicole McKee about what she wants

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Speaker 3: to do with the gun law and then after that

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Speaker 3: Health New Zealand on how on earth they can possibly

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Speaker 3: put in a hiring freeze. Right now, News.

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Speaker 1: The only drive show you can trust to ask the questions,

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Speaker 1: get the answers, by the facts and give the analysis.

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Speaker 1: Heather due to Zeeland Drive with One New Zealand Let's

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Speaker 1: get connected and News.

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Speaker 16: Talk z B.

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Speaker 3: Good afternoon. The government has committed to completely overhauling our

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Speaker 3: gun laws. In the next steps, the Firearms Safety Authority

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Speaker 3: will be transferred from the police to a government department

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Speaker 3: and the entire armzac rewritten. Nicole McKee is the Associate

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Speaker 3: Minister for Justice responsible here. Hey Nicol, Hi, how are

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Speaker 3: you doing?

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Speaker 17: Heather?

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Speaker 3: I'm very well, thank you. So do you want to

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Speaker 3: take the cops out of the licensing process?

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Speaker 5: He thought?

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Speaker 17: We want to remove New Zealand police from the administration,

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Speaker 17: regulation and policy making with firearms and allow them to

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Speaker 17: focus on enforcement of our laws and getting the gangs

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Speaker 17: away from the guns.

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Speaker 3: Why do you want to take them out of it?

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Speaker 17: Well, there is quite low trust and confidence with New

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Speaker 17: Zealand police and the licensed firearm owning community. I want

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Speaker 17: to make sure that when we do a full rewrite

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Speaker 17: of the impact, that we have something that's fit for

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Speaker 17: purpose and that people can feel trust and security. At

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Speaker 17: the moment, I don't think that they feel that, and

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Speaker 17: nor has that trust and confidence been rebuilt over the

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Speaker 17: last four or five years. In fact, it's got worse.

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Speaker 17: We're seeing gangs with guns commit more crimes than ever before,

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Speaker 17: and we want police to focus on that as part

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Speaker 17: of their core business and move away from the policy

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Speaker 17: and regulation.

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Speaker 3: So you'd be transferring it to is it the DIA.

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Speaker 17: We're going to look where the best fit is going

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Speaker 17: to be and that could be the Department of Internal Affairs.

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Speaker 17: That's the first stop that we're going to look at,

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Speaker 17: but it may not be the end place for it,

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Speaker 17: but we will ascertain where the best fit is going

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Speaker 17: to be because we've got to make sure also that

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Speaker 17: police are able to access information to go after the criminals.

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Speaker 17: So we've got to make sure that we can have

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Speaker 17: those lines of communication open so that police can still

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Speaker 17: do their job.

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Speaker 3: Part of assessing whether a person can get a license

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Speaker 3: is to see whether they're a fit and proper person

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Speaker 3: to be able to handle a gun and be trusted

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Speaker 3: with a gun. Right, isn't it isn't a police officer

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Speaker 3: a better place to make that kind of a judgment

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Speaker 3: call rather than a gray suit from the DIA.

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Speaker 17: Well, at the end of the day, we have the

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Speaker 17: criteria that they need to sit into and a lot

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Speaker 17: of that comes about by filling in the application form

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Speaker 17: and then doing the interviews. So really, if anybody can

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Speaker 17: ascertain with the somebody fit and proper by looking at

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Speaker 17: past history and also looking at the people that they're

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Speaker 17: working with, now, it doesn't need to be a police officer,

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Speaker 17: it needs to be an intelligent person.

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Speaker 3: Now, listen on you, are you still committed to getting

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Speaker 3: rid of the gun register?

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Speaker 17: Look, I would love to get rid of the full registry.

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Speaker 17: The way that it's being implemented, I personally don't think

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Speaker 17: that it sits for purpose. But at the end of

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Speaker 17: the day, we're in a coalition government and some of

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Speaker 17: my coalition partners think that it is so we've we're

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Speaker 17: committed with each other to have a review to check

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Speaker 17: whether it is cost effective, whether it is contributing to

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Speaker 17: public safety, whether we are getting full compliance, and whether

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Speaker 17: it's fits for purpose. So at the end of the day,

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Speaker 17: I've committed to looking at what the review shows us

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Speaker 17: and whether or not we needt to make changes, and

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Speaker 17: I hope my coalition partners will be on the same

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Speaker 17: track with that.

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Speaker 16: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: The reason I ask you that is because there is

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Speaker 3: a story in the papers. It was in the Herald

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Speaker 3: just about I think it might have been Monday, and

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Speaker 3: it was a case of a seventy five year old

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Speaker 3: Aucklaman and his daughter who'd bought thirteen firearms in three

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Speaker 3: months from Gun City as straw buyers. Right, So they

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Speaker 3: go and they buy the firearms and really they just

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Speaker 3: give them to the gangs and stuff like that. That's

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Speaker 3: the kind of thing the gun register should stop, right.

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Speaker 3: So isn't there some value in that?

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Speaker 17: I think that there is. And when I said that

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Speaker 17: a campaigned on not having a full registration system, I'd

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Speaker 17: also said that it was really important that we continue

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Speaker 17: the registry for pistols endorsements holders as well for the

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Speaker 17: collectors and make sure that we get the dealers into

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Speaker 17: a digital system. So at the moment, the dealer's registry

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Speaker 17: has been paper based, and I think the straw buying

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Speaker 17: that we're seeing we need to have that digitalized. What

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Speaker 17: I don't agree with is the full registry of firearms,

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Speaker 17: which is your a category. We've standard firearms, because we're

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Speaker 17: hearing from police that half the firearms that are being

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Speaker 17: seized don't even have serial numbers on them anymore.

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Speaker 5: So are we.

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Speaker 17: Trying to create an ambulance at the bottom of a

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Speaker 17: hill or if we just had a mudslide and actually

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Speaker 17: everything's getting buried, So we need to have a look

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Speaker 17: at what's circle purpose. But hither I do agree digitalizing

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Speaker 17: the dealer licensing system into a registry will be helpful

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Speaker 17: not only for police but formmunity safety as well.

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Speaker 3: Call Nicole, thank you so much, appreciate your time. That's

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Speaker 3: Nicole McKee, Associate Minister for Justice.

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Speaker 1: Together do for see.

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Speaker 3: Health New Zealand has ordered a hiring freeze on all

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Speaker 3: non frontline roles. In an internal email, the chief executive

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Speaker 3: Marji Upper told staff that Health New Zealand had to

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Speaker 3: reduce spending because it's already over budget for the financial year.

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Speaker 3: Andrew Slater is Health New Zealand's Chief People Officer.

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Speaker 4: High Andrew, Hey, Heather, Okay.

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Speaker 3: How long are you pausing recruitment?

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Speaker 18: Yeah, look, we're just pausing recruitment while we make sure

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Speaker 18: that we get the frontline moving. We've had a national

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Speaker 18: approval process on those roles for the last few months,

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Speaker 18: and then we'll be looking at the non frontline roles

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Speaker 18: been on pause while we set our budgets for the

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Speaker 18: coming financial year.

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Speaker 3: When does your financial year start?

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Speaker 18: The financial year starts in a couple of weeks. That

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Speaker 18: pauses likely to be on just as we enter July

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Speaker 18: August as.

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Speaker 3: Well, Why into August as well.

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Speaker 18: Yes, so, look, what we need to do is just

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Speaker 18: make sure that we get the frontline recruitment moving and

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Speaker 18: then while we do that, the non frontline related roles

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Speaker 18: are paused, while we have a national review, make sure

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Speaker 18: roles are still needed and go from there.

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Speaker 3: Okay, that sounds fine, but the salary the Association of

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Speaker 3: Salary Medical Specialists says this is affecting the front line.

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Speaker 3: They say they've got members who've not been able to

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Speaker 3: recruit pedatricians, cardiologist, obstetricians, gynecologists, cancer specials, specialists in public

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Speaker 3: health physicians, So why can't they get people?

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Speaker 18: Yeah, so, look what we've had in place over the

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Speaker 18: last couple of months as an approval process, that was

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Speaker 18: approving recruitment on our frontline hospital roles. What this pause

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Speaker 18: does that we're doing at the moment while we regroup

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Speaker 18: is moving those recruitment decisions back down to local hands.

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Speaker 18: And we're putting the pause and the other approval processes

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Speaker 18: on our non non hospital, non front line.

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Speaker 3: Okay, when are the people going to be able to

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Speaker 3: themselves approve hiring somebody like a cardiologist.

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Speaker 18: Look, that will occur as we get our budgets in place.

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Speaker 18: But those decisions through that local recruitment for our hospitals

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Speaker 18: and thens will start being made locally from next week.

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Speaker 3: Oh good, nobody can complain about that, Andrew, Thank you

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Speaker 3: very much, Andrew Slater, Chief People Office the Health New Zealand.

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Speaker 3: So hopefully all those those jobs will be able to

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Speaker 3: be filled from next week when they're basically able to

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Speaker 3: do it again. Hither, the gun Registry didn't stop the

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Speaker 3: straw man buying thirteen guns, So I don't see what

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Speaker 3: your point is. Hold on though, Hold on though the

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Speaker 3: straw man bought the firearms in twenty twenty two, wasn't

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Speaker 3: the gun registry only set up last year, so he

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Speaker 3: was buying the fire so hopefully the gun. My point remains,

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Speaker 3: the gun Registry should prevent this because it's now in place.

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Speaker 3: He was doing this beforehand, wasn't he. Let's talk to

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Speaker 3: Corey Jane next about the rugby fourteen past five. Hey,

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Speaker 3: by the end of the year, and if you want

873
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Speaker 3: to be one of the first to secure the BYD Shark,

874
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:54,959
Speaker 3: you can do this with a fully refundable three hundred

875
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Speaker 3: dollars reservation. You can still catch it at Field Days

876
00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:00,400
Speaker 3: tomorrow where you can check it out online at BYD

877
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Speaker 3: auto dot co dot MZ.

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Speaker 1: Heather duper Cela Fether.

879
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:06,760
Speaker 3: I'm a senior secretary for a large hospital department. Yesterday

880
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 3: I tried to order a new mousepad. It was declined

881
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:13,400
Speaker 3: due to there being no budget even the mousepad. Eighteen

882
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 3: past five. Now it's a big weekend for rugby in

883
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 3: the Capitol. Tomorrow, the Hurricanes are going to host a

884
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:21,279
Speaker 3: Super Rugby semifinal at Sky Stadium for the first time

885
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:24,680
Speaker 3: since twenty sixteen. Now the Hurricanes are top of the table,

886
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:27,439
Speaker 3: but the opponents, the Chiefs, have had a pretty solid

887
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:30,360
Speaker 3: season themselves. Hurricanes legend Cory Jane is now part of

888
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 3: the team's coaching set up. Hey, Corey, Hello, are you

889
00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:34,319
Speaker 3: guys going to win?

890
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 5: I hope so that's the plan.

891
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:38,880
Speaker 3: I mean that's not a lot of confidence. Are you confident?

892
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:44,360
Speaker 5: Yeah? Real confident? Boys? About a break a week and

893
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:48,200
Speaker 5: a great work of training, understanding what we need to

894
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 5: do as a team. And also the excitement of getting

895
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:56,759
Speaker 5: the semifinal at home. You know that doesn't guarantee a win,

896
00:42:56,960 --> 00:43:00,279
Speaker 5: but I'm exciting to play in front of your else.

897
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:02,439
Speaker 5: So boys, end up, do you reckon?

898
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:03,360
Speaker 3: It's going to be a sellout?

899
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:05,600
Speaker 5: I wouldn't have a clue. Would be nice if it was.

900
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:08,279
Speaker 5: It was close to it. You know, when you get

901
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 5: especially two teams like you know, the Kings and the Chiefs,

902
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:15,799
Speaker 5: and both teams really play some great rugby and it's

903
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:19,719
Speaker 5: excited team to watch. Teams want to win, especially when they,

904
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:22,640
Speaker 5: like I said, they want to play rugby and it's

905
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:26,840
Speaker 5: going to be physical and it's an afternoon game. You know,

906
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:31,760
Speaker 5: there should be no reason why it shouldn't be packed,

907
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:34,520
Speaker 5: But we'll see what happens.

908
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:36,919
Speaker 3: How much of a loss is it to lose Avi

909
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 3: and EuMA.

910
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a tough one and I feel for him.

911
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:43,680
Speaker 5: He's been he's been awesome for us this year and

912
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:49,320
Speaker 5: his rugby has just grower. He was always a dynamic

913
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:54,839
Speaker 5: ball runner, but you look at him scrummaging that's been unbelievable.

914
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:58,840
Speaker 5: And his defensive work to go with running with the

915
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:02,839
Speaker 5: ball has been have been outstanding. And you know, I'm

916
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:04,839
Speaker 5: biased because I get to coach and I see him

917
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 5: every day. But he's the best, we said in the

918
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 5: country at the moment, I believe when you put everything

919
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:13,759
Speaker 5: in in the bowl. So you've got it for him

920
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:17,520
Speaker 5: that he's injured, and you know it's it's a shame,

921
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:19,960
Speaker 5: but you know, we just got a next man up

922
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:23,680
Speaker 5: of mentality, and you know, the next boys have got

923
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 5: big boots to film.

924
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 3: This past season, we've spoken a lot about you guys

925
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:29,719
Speaker 3: being really really strong contenders for the champions, also the

926
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:33,200
Speaker 3: Blues being strong contenders. But have we maybe been underestimating

927
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 3: the Chiefs web.

928
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:38,400
Speaker 5: Uh, Well, we haven't. The public and the people that

929
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:43,359
Speaker 5: talk about rugby potentially put us. I've seen him. Then

930
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:48,600
Speaker 5: they're slowly building and you know, they've got a team

931
00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:51,200
Speaker 5: that can not only well the one that's coming out

932
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:55,040
Speaker 5: on the weekend, with their forward pack that are explosive

933
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:58,759
Speaker 5: and dominant, and if they get that right and then

934
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:01,960
Speaker 5: I let Mackenzie, those packs have a bit of time

935
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 5: and space and it's going to be it's gonna be

936
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 5: a tough game. So yeah, you know, everyone talked about

937
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:10,960
Speaker 5: the Blues being physical, and while they should have and

938
00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:13,960
Speaker 5: you know, chet at us, but you know, I definitely

939
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:16,560
Speaker 5: the cheaser have been here the last couple of years

940
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 5: and you know, team hasn't changed too much. So if

941
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 5: we're not going to respect them, and if people aren't

942
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 5: going to respect how they can play, then they could

943
00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:27,080
Speaker 5: get up.

944
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 3: And by hey, what do you reckon of the shake

945
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:30,840
Speaker 3: up of the playoffs for next year? You up for that?

946
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 5: Mat love it, I'd love the I just think it's

947
00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:38,240
Speaker 5: too much much with you know, with the amount of teams.

948
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:42,160
Speaker 5: You know, I've been saying here and I don't know

949
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:45,360
Speaker 5: what they're going to do, but I mentioned about you know,

950
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 5: maybe the two top teams getting to buy if they

951
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:51,080
Speaker 5: finished one and two they've kind of earned it and

952
00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 5: they getting to buy and it could be a scene,

953
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 5: you know, playoffs, But I just think with the amount

954
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:01,799
Speaker 5: of teams and the competition is probably just too much

955
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:02,840
Speaker 5: to have into the playoffs.

956
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, totally, I'm with you on that, Corey. Thank you

957
00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:08,280
Speaker 3: so much appreciated. Corey Janes, Hurricane's assistant coach. Five twenty two.

958
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:12,920
Speaker 1: Heather Duplessy Allen cutting through the noise to get the facts.

959
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:17,120
Speaker 1: It's Heather Duplasicy Allen Drive with One New Zealand. Let's

960
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:18,560
Speaker 1: get connected and news talk.

961
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:20,360
Speaker 3: As said be and I'll tell you what AI is

962
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:22,840
Speaker 3: getting weird. I've got a yarn to tell you about AI.

963
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:25,360
Speaker 3: Will get to that. Five twenty five, I've got some

964
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:28,360
Speaker 3: good news for you actually, Brook van Velden has officially

965
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:30,759
Speaker 3: announced she's starting the process of overhauling the Health and

966
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:33,480
Speaker 3: Safety Act. Now you might remember David Seymour let it

967
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:35,160
Speaker 3: slip last week when he was on the show. He

968
00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:36,680
Speaker 3: sort of let it slip out that she was going

969
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:38,799
Speaker 3: to do the Health and Safety Act. But now we've

970
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:41,520
Speaker 3: got the official kickoff. It is happening. She's starting with

971
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:43,080
Speaker 3: a road show, she says, but she's going to go

972
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:46,120
Speaker 3: around the country just listening, just wanting to hear what

973
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:48,480
Speaker 3: businesses and workers are up against with stupid health and

974
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 3: safety rules. And let me tell you there will be

975
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:55,520
Speaker 3: no shortage of yarns for her toy here, am I right?

976
00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:58,800
Speaker 3: Like the yarn from the East coast after cyclone Gabriel,

977
00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:01,480
Speaker 3: where the locals and their janmned were getting in mucking

978
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:04,799
Speaker 3: in clearing out the silt, but the precious soldiers weren't

979
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:06,520
Speaker 3: allowed to help. They weren't allowed to get in there

980
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:08,239
Speaker 3: and clear the celt out because they didn't have full

981
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:12,000
Speaker 3: protective gear because of health and safety rules. Or maybe

982
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:13,759
Speaker 3: she'll get the yarn from the Bay of Plenty, where

983
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 3: she might hear how the police wouldn't go and save

984
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:18,440
Speaker 3: people trapped on an active volcano and at risk of

985
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:22,439
Speaker 3: dying because of the health and safety rules. Or maybe

986
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:24,640
Speaker 3: when she goes down to Nelson, she'll hear about m

987
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:26,920
Speaker 3: Zta and how they stopped dealing to the weeds on

988
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 3: the roundabouts and the traffic islands because it wasn't safe

989
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:31,840
Speaker 3: for the contractors to go there and mow the weeds

990
00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:34,279
Speaker 3: because of the cars. It was too many cars, so

991
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:36,400
Speaker 3: they couldn't go on the berm. They couldn't mow the weeds,

992
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:38,960
Speaker 3: and making it safe for them to be able to

993
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:41,919
Speaker 3: do this was just so expensive because of the health

994
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:43,960
Speaker 3: and safety rules. In the end, you know what they

995
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:46,319
Speaker 3: did in Nelson in one spot, they just pulled out

996
00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:49,319
Speaker 3: all the vegetation and they poured concrete instead. So now

997
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:51,080
Speaker 3: instead of all the nice bushes and stuff like that,

998
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 3: they've just got concrete pads because it was easier because

999
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:56,399
Speaker 3: of the health and safety rules. And maybe she'll also

1000
00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:58,319
Speaker 3: hear from the New Zealand Initiative who will tell her

1001
00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:01,160
Speaker 3: that we've gone so overboard with scaffolding around our houses

1002
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 3: that preventing a scaffolding injury now costs three times the

1003
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 3: amount of money that we put into preventing a road injury.

1004
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:10,919
Speaker 3: There will be no shortage of stories for Brook van Balden,

1005
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:12,680
Speaker 3: and hopefully it won't take long for her to realize

1006
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:14,560
Speaker 3: the whole thing does need to be scrapped and done

1007
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:15,759
Speaker 3: again and done better.

1008
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 1: Heather Duper see Ellen Now really.

1009
00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:20,920
Speaker 3: Interesting argument from Gregor Paul, who's a sports writer for

1010
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:22,600
Speaker 3: The Herald. He reckons the Blues need to win the

1011
00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:26,359
Speaker 3: Super Rugby comp this weekend, well this year actually, because

1012
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:27,560
Speaker 3: it's not this weekend. They're going to win it, but

1013
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:29,839
Speaker 3: they need to win it this year because it might

1014
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:32,000
Speaker 3: help save the game. Because he reckons, the problem with

1015
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:34,680
Speaker 3: rugby is, I mean, the problem with rugby is across

1016
00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:37,960
Speaker 3: the whole country, but particularly acute in Auckland because the foothold,

1017
00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:41,480
Speaker 3: he says, in Auckland is tenuous and slipping because Auckland

1018
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:43,960
Speaker 3: is increasingly a city that's full of migrants, right, and

1019
00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:47,440
Speaker 3: migrants don't have this kind of emotional connection to rugby

1020
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:49,920
Speaker 3: that the rest of us inherit, and so as a result,

1021
00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:53,520
Speaker 3: it's like not automatically into it. And so for more

1022
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:55,919
Speaker 3: than a decade now, enz R has been really trying

1023
00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:58,839
Speaker 3: very very hard to try to get Auckland back into

1024
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:00,840
Speaker 3: rugby and it doesn't appear it doesn't appear to be

1025
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:04,799
Speaker 3: working anyway. His argument is simply Auckland needs to fall

1026
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:06,840
Speaker 3: in love with the Blues again. The sports title is

1027
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:08,399
Speaker 3: going to be with us shortly. We'll have a chat

1028
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:08,920
Speaker 3: to them about that.

1029
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:20,720
Speaker 19: Newstalksb hard questions, strong opinion, ever duper see allan drive

1030
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:22,080
Speaker 19: with one New Zealand.

1031
00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:24,480
Speaker 1: Let's get connected and news talk Z be.

1032
00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:28,319
Speaker 2: You for.

1033
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:40,239
Speaker 3: So em back. Heather is Brook also going to look

1034
00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:43,800
Speaker 3: at the excessive number of cones around roadworks. Yes, actually

1035
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:46,200
Speaker 3: she is. Heather. The road cone man is not going

1036
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:48,040
Speaker 3: to be happy with this review because he's got twenty

1037
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:50,080
Speaker 3: million road cones on our roads and he's not gonna

1038
00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:51,920
Speaker 3: want them coming back in. That's fair enough from Evan,

1039
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:53,560
Speaker 3: because you've got them out there making money that you

1040
00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:55,560
Speaker 3: come back and we're going to store them. That's a

1041
00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:57,920
Speaker 3: difficult thing. Well, we can all help because everybody appears

1042
00:49:57,960 --> 00:49:59,480
Speaker 3: to have a road cone somewhere near their home at

1043
00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:02,839
Speaker 3: the moment, upper poll in the bush. Who knows? Now,

1044
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:04,680
Speaker 3: As I told you, I want to tell you what's

1045
00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:08,320
Speaker 3: going on with AI. AI is getting weird, like a

1046
00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:11,880
Speaker 3: really weird, right. We've had people who are like aiing

1047
00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:14,719
Speaker 3: their dead fathers and having conversations with them, like weird

1048
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:17,840
Speaker 3: stuff like that. He's another installation of it getting bizarre.

1049
00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:21,759
Speaker 3: So there is a version of AI. Well is it

1050
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:23,839
Speaker 3: a version of AI. It's like a creation of AI

1051
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:27,600
Speaker 3: called Dan, and Dan is a bloke on AI that

1052
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:31,200
Speaker 3: you can basically date online. Dan stands for do anything

1053
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:34,520
Speaker 3: now because Dan will do anything. By the sounds of things,

1054
00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:38,439
Speaker 3: I thought he was just flirting. But Producer Law says

1055
00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:40,600
Speaker 3: to me, it's dirty talk that you can get from Dan,

1056
00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:43,560
Speaker 3: like it goes a lot further. Anyway, what happened is

1057
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:46,000
Speaker 3: Dan is what they consider a jail break version of

1058
00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:49,360
Speaker 3: chat GPT. It bypasses some of the basic safeguards that

1059
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:51,920
Speaker 3: have been put in place by open Ai, like not

1060
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:55,040
Speaker 3: using sexually explicit language. Hen's the dirty talk. Great. So

1061
00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:56,759
Speaker 3: they put all these rules and they were like chat

1062
00:50:56,840 --> 00:50:59,759
Speaker 3: GPT will not do these things, but if you ask

1063
00:50:59,840 --> 00:51:03,720
Speaker 3: it to do certain things using certain prompts, it actually

1064
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:06,880
Speaker 3: can get around these rules. And apparently it's the Chinese

1065
00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:09,239
Speaker 3: women who are loving Dan the most because they think

1066
00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:13,040
Speaker 3: real world men suck. They think real world men suck.

1067
00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:17,200
Speaker 3: Thirty year old Lisa from Beijing is currently studying computer

1068
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:19,560
Speaker 3: science in California. She says she's been dating Dan for

1069
00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:21,520
Speaker 3: three months. She says she and Dan speak for at

1070
00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:23,319
Speaker 3: least half an hour every day, They flirt, they even

1071
00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:25,480
Speaker 3: go on dates. Dan has given her a sense of

1072
00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:27,520
Speaker 3: well being, which is what draws her to Dan. He

1073
00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:30,200
Speaker 3: will just understand, he will provide emotional support, she says.

1074
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:33,240
Speaker 3: She says even her mum has accepted this absolutely bizarre

1075
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:36,560
Speaker 3: situation because she is sick and tired of her daughter's

1076
00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:38,600
Speaker 3: trials and tribulations in the dating life, and as long

1077
00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:40,560
Speaker 3: as the daughter's happy, she doesn't really care whether the

1078
00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:43,440
Speaker 3: Dan is real or not. Now we don't know for

1079
00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:47,319
Speaker 3: sure who made Dan, but an American student who goes

1080
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:50,480
Speaker 3: by only his first name Walker has taken responsibility. In

1081
00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:52,520
Speaker 3: some media interviews, he says he came up with the

1082
00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:54,319
Speaker 3: idea because he was on Reddit and everybody was talking

1083
00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:56,920
Speaker 3: about trying to make evil versions of chat GPT, and

1084
00:51:57,120 --> 00:51:59,360
Speaker 3: so he made Dan to be more neutral. So he

1085
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Speaker 3: went on and basically how he created Dan as he

1086
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:05,080
Speaker 3: went on Reddit and he posted a series of instructions

1087
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Speaker 3: for people if they want to create Dan, this is

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00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:08,600
Speaker 3: how you create Dan. And so they did and they

1089
00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:11,400
Speaker 3: made their own versions and Dan has become much bigger

1090
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:13,920
Speaker 3: than what Walker ever thought that Dan would be. The

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00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:18,120
Speaker 3: interesting thing about Dan is that he has busted through

1092
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Speaker 3: AI's guardrails, which is not supposed to happen. So open

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Speaker 3: ai does not talk about Dan. The BBC did a

1094
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:27,480
Speaker 3: big piece on Dan. They wrote to open Ai. They've

1095
00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:29,000
Speaker 3: sent some questions and they were like, can you talk

1096
00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:32,320
Speaker 3: about Dan? Open Ai just never responded at all. And

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Speaker 3: if you want to know how popular dan is. This week,

1098
00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:38,520
Speaker 3: the hashtag dan mode has been viewed more than forty

1099
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:43,200
Speaker 3: million times on just one Chinese social media site alone.

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Speaker 3: So if you happen to be one of the people

1101
00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:48,239
Speaker 3: who does not think that's weird, and you've got a

1102
00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:50,080
Speaker 3: lot of time this weekend, now you know what you're

1103
00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:51,919
Speaker 3: gonna do with it, don't you. Twenty one away from.

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Speaker 1: Six, the Friday Sports Huddle with New Zealand Southebeast International Realty,

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Speaker 1: exceptional marketing for every property.

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Speaker 7: It's all over, Thank you, ladies and gentlemen.

1107
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:11,040
Speaker 16: Here in Hamilton, the Chiefs have run out the winners

1108
00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:13,600
Speaker 16: forty three points to tweety one.

1109
00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:18,120
Speaker 14: And the Blues March John and Super Rugby Spacific now

1110
00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:22,680
Speaker 14: host a semi final final score in Wellington Hurricanes forty

1111
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:25,320
Speaker 14: seven rebels tweety.

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00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:29,800
Speaker 3: Poor tournament the black Caps and were then underdone.

1113
00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:32,080
Speaker 8: Underdone chicken, because you can't have underdone kind of beef,

1114
00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:33,359
Speaker 8: even underdone pork.

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00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:35,799
Speaker 3: You can hear them, yep, but you can't have underdone chicken.

1116
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:38,279
Speaker 3: Right on the sports tattle with us this evening, we've

1117
00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:40,480
Speaker 3: got Paul Ellison news talks. There'd be rugby commentator and

1118
00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:42,920
Speaker 3: Elliot Smith News Talks. He'd be rugby commentator who is

1119
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:45,719
Speaker 3: actually at the Blues Brummy semi final live from Eden

1120
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:47,719
Speaker 3: Park and you can listen on gold Sport later tonight.

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00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:51,560
Speaker 3: Hallo you too, Oh yeah, Paul, are you disappointed in

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00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:52,200
Speaker 3: the black Caps?

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Speaker 20: Disappointed you? Particularly after the form and recent T twenty competitions.

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Speaker 20: They are semi finalists two years ago, they were semi

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00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:02,680
Speaker 20: finalist in two sixteen runners up.

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Speaker 5: In twenty one.

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00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:06,400
Speaker 20: We knew they'd go and underdone because the warm up

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00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:10,080
Speaker 20: games that they had planned were or they asked for

1129
00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:12,160
Speaker 20: them to be actually delayed because most of the players

1130
00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:15,360
Speaker 20: were still at the IPL so they couldn't get delayed games.

1131
00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:18,640
Speaker 20: They're blaming the weather, poor preparation of pitchers to be

1132
00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:21,080
Speaker 20: able to get the preparation they needed over there. But

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00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:23,279
Speaker 20: I think they'd had to have a good hard look

1134
00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:25,000
Speaker 20: at the planning that they did going into it and

1135
00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:28,120
Speaker 20: the fact that they're doing. They're coming home, they'll be

1136
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:31,960
Speaker 20: coming home after Tuesday's match. They've got Uganda and Papa

1137
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:34,600
Speaker 20: and New Guinea and yeah, it's been a Richard Tournament

1138
00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:34,839
Speaker 20: for them.

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00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:35,080
Speaker 21: Paul.

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Speaker 3: It sounded to me as if the players had actually

1141
00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:41,520
Speaker 3: asked for a break instead of playing the warm up matches.

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00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:46,000
Speaker 20: Well, that's not my understanding, but you could be right.

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00:54:46,200 --> 00:54:48,840
Speaker 20: I thought that they had a schedule in place, but

1144
00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:51,319
Speaker 20: it didn't work to the availability of players because there

1145
00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:53,840
Speaker 20: was nine of them still tied up with the IPL

1146
00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:57,080
Speaker 20: on duties, and they said there was a logistical challenge

1147
00:54:57,400 --> 00:54:59,640
Speaker 20: in getting the team together in the Caribbean. Now the

1148
00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:02,399
Speaker 20: competent and started on the second of June. Our first

1149
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:04,120
Speaker 20: match was on the eighth of June, so there was

1150
00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:06,800
Speaker 20: a six day window there where perhaps they could have

1151
00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:09,920
Speaker 20: had a match against somebody, didn't take it and it

1152
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:12,160
Speaker 20: showed them their performances they've been Richard.

1153
00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:14,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, what have you heard, Alliott? Have you heard that

1154
00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:15,839
Speaker 3: they just didn't have the opportunity or that they actually

1155
00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:16,279
Speaker 3: didn't want to.

1156
00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:20,080
Speaker 22: Oh, I've heard that they didn't have the opportunity. But

1157
00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:23,719
Speaker 22: it's quite bizarre given they started their campaign so late

1158
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:26,399
Speaker 22: compared to everyone else. A lot of teams played two

1159
00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:28,760
Speaker 22: games by the time the black Cats took to the field,

1160
00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:31,960
Speaker 22: so you'd think there'd be a window to have a game.

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00:55:32,040 --> 00:55:35,120
Speaker 22: They went and underdone. But it feels like they've sort

1162
00:55:35,120 --> 00:55:37,360
Speaker 22: of been on the precipice of something like this. For

1163
00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:40,440
Speaker 22: a wee bit. The golden generation that we've been treated

1164
00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:43,560
Speaker 22: to has shown signs of creaking over the last a

1165
00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:47,200
Speaker 22: few summers, and I thought it might come at last

1166
00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:49,720
Speaker 22: year's World Cup, but they got to the semi finals

1167
00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:52,240
Speaker 22: at that fifty over tournament. This time around, it feels

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00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:55,480
Speaker 22: like some of the floors that have been developing in

1169
00:55:55,600 --> 00:55:59,280
Speaker 22: this team have begun to be exposed and ultimately missing

1170
00:55:59,320 --> 00:56:01,839
Speaker 22: out on the the knockout stages or the souper rates

1171
00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:04,719
Speaker 22: is a failure when it comes to a black Caps

1172
00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:07,120
Speaker 22: team give its cut throat. Only two teams go through,

1173
00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:09,040
Speaker 22: but the black Caps should have been part of that

1174
00:56:09,120 --> 00:56:10,480
Speaker 22: conversation and they're not.

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Speaker 3: Ellie. Is this just the future of the game, that

1176
00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:14,799
Speaker 3: the IPL and all the money making things are going

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00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:16,040
Speaker 3: to trump the national side?

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00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:17,759
Speaker 12: Ye?

1179
00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:21,680
Speaker 22: And I think the International crick Council needs to stand

1180
00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:25,280
Speaker 22: up there and carve out windows where there are protected

1181
00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:29,799
Speaker 22: international events and series and you can play internationals there

1182
00:56:30,040 --> 00:56:32,200
Speaker 22: and you can have your T Twins's, your Indian Premier

1183
00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:36,000
Speaker 22: League's your United States, what's it's your Chinese Premier League?

1184
00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:38,480
Speaker 22: Whatever you're going to get. You have those in separate windows,

1185
00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:41,640
Speaker 22: but you protect the international game. So I think you

1186
00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:43,920
Speaker 22: need to the ICC needs to stand up and take

1187
00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:46,960
Speaker 22: some more responsibility. But so to New Zealand Cricket at all. Honestly,

1188
00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:50,200
Speaker 22: it feels like they've probably been a little stuck in

1189
00:56:50,239 --> 00:56:52,440
Speaker 22: the mud with the way they play the T twenty

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00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:55,320
Speaker 22: game over the last few years. It's very conservative. What

1191
00:56:55,560 --> 00:56:59,400
Speaker 22: is a fast paced tournament and I think there's some

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00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:03,160
Speaker 22: selection who's there and perhaps you know, splitting up the

1193
00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:06,200
Speaker 22: coaching across the board might be a good move for

1194
00:57:06,239 --> 00:57:07,839
Speaker 22: the Black capt gone interesting to take care.

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00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:09,520
Speaker 3: Hey, Paul, do you reckon the Warriors have made the

1196
00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:11,560
Speaker 3: right call putting Seawan Johnson back into half back.

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00:57:13,120 --> 00:57:15,640
Speaker 20: Well, it's a tough call for Andrew Webster, but I

1198
00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:17,160
Speaker 20: think you've got to have him on the field somewhere.

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Speaker 20: He's the only one that was still there when they

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00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:21,640
Speaker 20: last beat the Storm back in two fifteen. We know

1201
00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:25,240
Speaker 20: how class he can be. You've got Martin moving out

1202
00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:27,840
Speaker 20: one position. He's been so good in the last three

1203
00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:30,640
Speaker 20: weeks when Shawn john Johnson's been out injured and the

1204
00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:33,320
Speaker 20: fact that they've won three games in a row. He

1205
00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:35,560
Speaker 20: assisted had four assists against the Cowboys.

1206
00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:36,840
Speaker 5: But I think you've got to.

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00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:38,480
Speaker 20: Have both them on the field, So I don't have

1208
00:57:38,520 --> 00:57:41,400
Speaker 20: a problem with what they've done and it'll be an

1209
00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:44,080
Speaker 20: absolute rip slaughter of a game tomorrow night. In fact,

1210
00:57:44,120 --> 00:57:45,720
Speaker 20: we've got a great weekend of sport in front of us.

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00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:46,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, what do you reckon?

1212
00:57:46,760 --> 00:57:47,000
Speaker 10: Elliot?

1213
00:57:47,080 --> 00:57:48,080
Speaker 3: Would you have made the same call?

1214
00:57:48,720 --> 00:57:48,919
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1215
00:57:48,920 --> 00:57:50,720
Speaker 22: I would have. But I think the key is finding

1216
00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:52,880
Speaker 22: a way where they can actually play alongside each other

1217
00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:57,600
Speaker 22: in ankev responsibility because what we saw before Johnson was injured,

1218
00:57:57,640 --> 00:58:00,320
Speaker 22: that was everything was running through him. In tonight, Martin

1219
00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:02,360
Speaker 22: was pretty much left with nothing to do and it

1220
00:58:02,480 --> 00:58:04,720
Speaker 22: was all becoming a little too predictable that the attack

1221
00:58:04,840 --> 00:58:07,840
Speaker 22: was running through Sean Johnson. And in the last few

1222
00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:10,560
Speaker 22: weeks we've seen Tomighty really step up. But you know,

1223
00:58:10,840 --> 00:58:12,600
Speaker 22: the key is them both on the park and have

1224
00:58:12,720 --> 00:58:15,640
Speaker 22: that dual threat where you're keep in the opposition guessing

1225
00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:18,600
Speaker 22: and attack could either go one side of the park

1226
00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:20,720
Speaker 22: or the left that's or all the other. That's the

1227
00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:23,240
Speaker 22: key for the Warriors, and if they can work harmoniously

1228
00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:24,800
Speaker 22: on the park, then I think it's a good move

1229
00:58:24,800 --> 00:58:27,560
Speaker 22: and I can see why Andrew Webster has gone with it.

1230
00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:29,560
Speaker 22: Proof will be in the putting as it always is,

1231
00:58:29,640 --> 00:58:31,600
Speaker 22: but you can't leave a guy like Shawn Johnson out

1232
00:58:31,600 --> 00:58:32,280
Speaker 22: now he's fit again.

1233
00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:33,919
Speaker 3: No, I suppose you can't. Really, We'll take a break.

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00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:35,120
Speaker 3: Come back to you guys shortly quarter.

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Speaker 1: Two Friday sports huddle with New Zealand Southeby's international realty,

1236
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1237
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Speaker 3: Right, you're back on the sports huddle. Elliott Smith's with

1238
00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:47,320
Speaker 3: us and Paul Allison, Elliott Griggle. Paul reckons that the

1239
00:58:47,320 --> 00:58:48,920
Speaker 3: Blues have to win for the sake of rugby and

1240
00:58:48,920 --> 00:58:50,000
Speaker 3: New Zealand. Do you agree with that?

1241
00:58:51,120 --> 00:58:54,000
Speaker 23: No, not particularly like I think what we've seen over

1242
00:58:54,080 --> 00:58:56,280
Speaker 23: the course of the season, as there's been a higher

1243
00:58:56,360 --> 00:59:00,520
Speaker 23: TV engagement than there has been for recent times, crowds up.

1244
00:59:00,560 --> 00:59:03,080
Speaker 23: But I get why you want to get some success

1245
00:59:03,120 --> 00:59:06,040
Speaker 23: in the Auckland market, but I don't see it as being,

1246
00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:07,760
Speaker 23: you know, the be all and end all. If the

1247
00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:10,960
Speaker 23: Blues don't win Super Rugby this season, I think, you know,

1248
00:59:11,160 --> 00:59:15,040
Speaker 23: Hurricanes and the Wellington region equally important. So to Hamilton.

1249
00:59:15,480 --> 00:59:17,160
Speaker 23: I don't think there's a bad outcome as long as

1250
00:59:17,200 --> 00:59:20,120
Speaker 23: it's a New Zealing team lifting the trophy next weekend

1251
00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:21,680
Speaker 23: and not the one from the act.

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Speaker 9: Yeah.

1253
00:59:22,320 --> 00:59:24,800
Speaker 3: Because Elliott, I mean, he makes he makes it a

1254
00:59:24,880 --> 00:59:27,920
Speaker 3: convincing argument, but I don't think it necessarily follows right.

1255
00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:30,880
Speaker 3: I don't think that if the Blues win, suddenly Auckland

1256
00:59:30,960 --> 00:59:33,040
Speaker 3: falls in love with rugby again, because I haven't seen

1257
00:59:33,080 --> 00:59:36,120
Speaker 3: any sign that their success throughout the season has made

1258
00:59:36,200 --> 00:59:37,040
Speaker 3: us like it anymore.

1259
00:59:37,360 --> 00:59:39,400
Speaker 23: No, I don't think so either. We saw the Blues

1260
00:59:39,480 --> 00:59:40,840
Speaker 23: go all the way to the final a couple of

1261
00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:43,560
Speaker 23: years ago and ride that wave then, and they were

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00:59:43,560 --> 00:59:46,920
Speaker 23: selling out crowds. They didn't win ultimately then, but as

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00:59:46,960 --> 00:59:48,760
Speaker 23: long as they're in the mix every year, I think

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00:59:48,800 --> 00:59:51,040
Speaker 23: that's all you can ask from a Blues perspective. I

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00:59:51,080 --> 00:59:53,760
Speaker 23: don't think that the magic tonic of them lifting the

1266
00:59:53,800 --> 00:59:56,440
Speaker 23: trophy next weekend is going to get bums on seats

1267
00:59:56,480 --> 00:59:58,760
Speaker 23: and kids out playing rugby. It might help, but I

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00:59:58,840 --> 01:00:02,880
Speaker 23: don't think it's going to get those fans converted away

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Speaker 23: from league or whatever you want. So I don't think

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01:00:06,120 --> 01:00:08,439
Speaker 23: it's the bell and end or if the Blues don't

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01:00:08,440 --> 01:00:10,439
Speaker 23: win next week. It's certainly a good boost for rugby

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01:00:10,480 --> 01:00:11,800
Speaker 23: in the region, but it would be the same for

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01:00:11,840 --> 01:00:12,800
Speaker 23: any region in New Zealand.

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Speaker 3: Paul, You're going to be rouging for the Blues, aren't you.

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Speaker 20: I've got my hanky out. Actually, when I heard that story,

1276
01:00:23,120 --> 01:00:25,080
Speaker 20: I can't see how that makes any sense at all.

1277
01:00:25,120 --> 01:00:28,560
Speaker 20: Sure it might invigorate the support of rugby in Auckland,

1278
01:00:28,600 --> 01:00:31,320
Speaker 20: but you look back through the last decade or more,

1279
01:00:31,360 --> 01:00:33,200
Speaker 20: when the All Blacks have won a couple of World Cups,

1280
01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:35,439
Speaker 20: you've had names likes of Richie mccawr and Aaron Smith

1281
01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:38,600
Speaker 20: and Sam Whitelocke and Brody Metallic and Dan Catter and

1282
01:00:38,640 --> 01:00:41,160
Speaker 20: Conrad Smith and Beensmith and the Barretts. They've all come

1283
01:00:41,200 --> 01:00:43,320
Speaker 20: from country areas. They haven't come from the Blues country

1284
01:00:43,480 --> 01:00:45,480
Speaker 20: and New Zealand rugby's done pretty well without it. Two

1285
01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:48,280
Speaker 20: thousand and three. I think the Blues last won the

1286
01:00:48,440 --> 01:00:51,760
Speaker 20: proper super rugby competition. It's twenty one years ago and

1287
01:00:51,800 --> 01:00:53,960
Speaker 20: New Zealand rugby's done okay since then. So you know,

1288
01:00:54,320 --> 01:00:56,080
Speaker 20: I've still got my hanky out and wipe my tears

1289
01:00:56,120 --> 01:00:56,440
Speaker 20: away to.

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01:00:56,400 --> 01:00:58,680
Speaker 3: Be honest, tone you got on?

1291
01:00:58,800 --> 01:00:59,000
Speaker 6: Yeah?

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01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:01,440
Speaker 3: Do you reckon that the Saudis can pull off this

1293
01:01:01,600 --> 01:01:02,600
Speaker 3: unified boxing league.

1294
01:01:02,960 --> 01:01:04,880
Speaker 23: Well, they've got enough money to throw at it, don't they.

1295
01:01:05,480 --> 01:01:07,840
Speaker 23: I think it's something that boxing does need. In honesty,

1296
01:01:08,160 --> 01:01:10,600
Speaker 23: there's too many confusing belts. No one seems to know

1297
01:01:10,680 --> 01:01:12,920
Speaker 23: what it means. You look at the UFC and it's

1298
01:01:13,040 --> 01:01:15,840
Speaker 23: very clear. If you win a UFC title, you are

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Speaker 23: the UFC champion. If you win a boxing title, you

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Speaker 23: might be the IBF, WBOWBF, whatever initialism you were looking at,

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Speaker 23: you win one of those. No one seems to know

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Speaker 23: what everything is going on. All the money now goes

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Speaker 23: through Saudi Arabia. Forget Las Vegas. Boxing doesn't work there.

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Speaker 23: There's not enough money there anymore. If there's anyone that

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Speaker 23: can do it, they are, dear friends in Saudi Arabia

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Speaker 23: can do it. They're pretty much taking over world sports.

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Speaker 23: So hey, maybe this is a good thing. Maybe unifying

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Speaker 23: you know, the boxing titles might be some good form

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Speaker 23: of sports washing.

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Speaker 11: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean that's a fair point, isn't it, Paul. If

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Speaker 3: anyone can do it, it's them.

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Speaker 20: Yeah, four or five million US dollars they're talking about

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Speaker 20: injecting into this, and you know, you talk about all

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Speaker 20: those initially had to look at what they were. A

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Speaker 20: World Boxing Council, International Boxing Federation, World Boxing Association, world

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Speaker 20: boxing organization. Each one have their own rules, each one

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Speaker 20: have their own championship, belts. It's so sort of scattered

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Speaker 20: and split and spread out that if they can pull

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Speaker 20: this together with that money, I think actually it's a

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Speaker 20: good thing both for the sport and for the spectator.

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Speaker 20: So yeah, I'm actually for it.

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Speaker 5: I'd love to see it.

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Speaker 20: They've done it with golf, that've done it with Formula one,

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Speaker 20: They've done it with football. They're looking to do it

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Speaker 20: for cycling, money talks and sport. I think they'll pull

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Speaker 20: it off.

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Speaker 3: Ye, good stuff, Allie. You've got a good crowd there tonight.

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Speaker 23: I think gat's only opened about ten minutes ago, so

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Speaker 23: there's probably fewer than five hundred people through at the moment.

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Speaker 23: I haven't heard a number as yet. Hoping it's good

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Speaker 23: because this could be the last Blues game of the season,

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Speaker 23: so let's hope that the crowd comes out.

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Speaker 3: It's not going to be stopped that night.

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Speaker 23: Well, seven o'clock on a Friday night. This is not

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Speaker 23: the ideal scenario for the Lows. This is in the

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Speaker 23: time slot that we can talk about it.

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Speaker 2: The Brumbies are useless, the one seven seven in a row,

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Speaker 2: the Blues of one fourteen League park.

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Speaker 20: So yeah, I think it'll be a good match in

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Speaker 20: project the Blues. The Blue should win this one and

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Speaker 20: march on into the final next week. And here you

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Speaker 20: go on waking an upset against the Chiefs. So we'll

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Speaker 20: be at home next week as well. Here you go, alliant,

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Speaker 20: if we have another game to do.

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Speaker 3: All right, thank you both really appreciated. Elliott Smith Paul Allison.

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Speaker 3: By the way, you can listen to Elliot. He's going

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Speaker 3: to be on gold Sport tonight from seven o'clock, going

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Speaker 3: to be calling the Blues Brumby semi final live from

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Speaker 3: Eden Park. It's eight away from six.

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Speaker 1: On your smart speaker, on the iHeart app and in

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Speaker 1: your car on your drive home. Heather duple c Allen

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Speaker 1: drive with one New Zealand one Giant Leap for Business

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01:03:27,920 --> 01:03:30,000
Speaker 1: News Talk zib Hither.

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Speaker 3: The best number seven and best number eight in the

1356
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Speaker 3: in the country came from Blues Country, Michael Jones and

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Speaker 3: and Zenbruk. Your guest needs to take their eye patch off.

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Speaker 3: A guest comes from down South, so you know you

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01:03:39,600 --> 01:03:42,280
Speaker 3: can't be listening. You can't be a true blue South

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01:03:42,360 --> 01:03:45,040
Speaker 3: Islander and give any credits to Auckland. That just wouldn't

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Speaker 3: be that wouldn't be kosher. And we just we just

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Speaker 3: accept that. We just factored that in Heather, you're obviously

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Speaker 3: not aware this is an email that's coming from Ann.

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Speaker 3: You're obviously not aware of the technology that our eagle

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Speaker 3: helicopter uses. And I'm not about to elucidate, but the

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Speaker 3: sweeps of the immediate area close to mutter Copper that

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Speaker 3: produced no results has opened another can of wounds. So

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Speaker 3: actually and makes a very good point, so I had

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Speaker 3: to quit Google. And yes, the eagle does have heat

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Speaker 3: seeking technology, doesn't it. So the chopper that's been in

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Speaker 3: the sky in mutter Coopper has been flying around and

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Speaker 3: you will recall at Cayman at night, so presumably it's

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Speaker 3: been using the old heat seeking stuff hasn't found any

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Speaker 3: sign of old mate and his kids in the bush,

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Speaker 3: and therefore can probably rule that out. Now, ants reckons

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Speaker 3: they can do all kinds of interesting things like cover

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Speaker 3: themselves a mud and live in a cave.

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Speaker 24: To be fair, Heather, I'm getting that from the first

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Speaker 24: Predator movie. So I don't know how Val you doing

1380
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Speaker 24: all that's right, Snagory covers himself in mud and then

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Speaker 24: the Predator's heat sensing can't pick him up. I mean,

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Speaker 24: can you do that in real life.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, And obviously everybody's watched that, so everybody knows

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Speaker 3: that you can do that. So maybe they're just one.

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Speaker 24: Of the police will have watched Predators surely.

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Speaker 3: And Tom Phillips. So it's still possible that he's in

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Speaker 3: the bush, but the chances are he's probably not. And it,

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Speaker 3: come on, it's been two and a half years. He's

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Speaker 3: probably living living in a farmhouse, working for a farmer somewhere.

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, We're going to talk to

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Speaker 3: a kid after six o'clock. By the way, this kid.

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Speaker 3: A few years ago, I think it was twenty sixteen,

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Speaker 3: there was a Herald headline that asked whether he might

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Speaker 3: be New Zealand's smartest team. He was Hamilton High School's Ducks.

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Speaker 3: He may well have been New Zealand's smartest team because

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Speaker 3: he's now living in New York. He's an entrepreneur. He's

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Speaker 3: been to Harvard, he's already he's done one business, he

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Speaker 3: started a second one. Have a little chat to him

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Speaker 3: shortly about just what it takes to be one of

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Speaker 3: these kids who just kind of breaks out and gets

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Speaker 3: out of the lifestyle culture in this country and does

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Speaker 3: something interesting like that. Just to pick update on the

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Speaker 3: allegations in that stuff documentary yesterday, who was suggesting that

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Speaker 3: former National MP Jungjong was a Chinese spy and that

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Speaker 3: China is corroding our democracy. A bunch of current MPs

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Speaker 3: who belonged to the Inter Party Parliamentary Alliance have written

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Speaker 3: a letter calling for a Select Committee inquiry into these allegations.

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Speaker 3: It's signed by the co chairs Ingrid Larry and Joseph Mooney.

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Speaker 3: They say they worried the good reason to believe that

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Speaker 3: there are more examples than just the examples in the

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Speaker 3: Stuff documentary, and frankly there would have to be more examples.

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Speaker 3: But at the State I am unmoved, not really all

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Speaker 3: that excited about it. I mean I wanted some clear

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01:06:05,760 --> 01:06:08,560
Speaker 3: like I wanted like that guy got kidnapped, you can

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Speaker 3: that's absolutely for sure, do you know? I wanted something

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01:06:11,080 --> 01:06:13,320
Speaker 3: like that. But it didn't get that anyway. So we

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Speaker 3: got in touch with him. We called Joseph Mooney from

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Speaker 3: the National Party. He's not because we were like, come

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01:06:17,320 --> 01:06:18,960
Speaker 3: and talk to us about what you saw that freaked

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Speaker 3: you out. Didn't answer his phone. So then were called

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01:06:21,400 --> 01:06:23,439
Speaker 3: Labor because we were like, can we talk to Ingrid

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01:06:23,520 --> 01:06:26,280
Speaker 3: Leary and they were like, Nah, Ingrid's busy, busy all day,

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Speaker 3: all day. Can you call Joseph. So we called Joseph

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01:06:29,720 --> 01:06:32,280
Speaker 3: again and Joseph, Joseph's phone is still busy. So we

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Speaker 3: went back to labor. We were like, hey, can you

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Speaker 3: give us a letter? No, can't give us a Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I think we'll just put We'll put that one where

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Speaker 3: it belongs, right, the smart kid next.

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Speaker 1: Keeping track of where the money is flowing. With the

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Speaker 1: business hour, we'd hid the duplicy Ellen and my Hr

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Speaker 1: on news Talks, a'd.

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Speaker 3: Men coming up to the next hour, Peter Lewis on

1433
01:07:02,040 --> 01:07:05,400
Speaker 3: whether the Chinese have actually snubbed Australia by visiting US first,

1434
01:07:05,480 --> 01:07:07,520
Speaker 3: Gavin Gray out of the UK, and Barry Sober will

1435
01:07:07,560 --> 01:07:10,400
Speaker 3: wrap the political week that was right now it is

1436
01:07:10,440 --> 01:07:12,960
Speaker 3: seven past six now eight years ago. So mil Sing

1437
01:07:13,160 --> 01:07:16,120
Speaker 3: was Hamilton High School ducks and a Herald headline asked

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Speaker 3: whether he might actually be New Zealand's smartest teenager. He

1439
01:07:19,080 --> 01:07:21,120
Speaker 3: just turned down ten of the world's top universities and

1440
01:07:21,160 --> 01:07:24,360
Speaker 3: decided to go to to Harvard in the end. Fast

1441
01:07:24,440 --> 01:07:26,800
Speaker 3: forward to today, he's living in New York. He already

1442
01:07:26,840 --> 01:07:28,720
Speaker 3: has one startup under his belt and he's about to

1443
01:07:28,800 --> 01:07:33,800
Speaker 3: launch a second. So mil Sing is with us now, SML, Hey,

1444
01:07:33,920 --> 01:07:34,440
Speaker 3: how's it going?

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01:07:34,760 --> 01:07:35,360
Speaker 18: Very well? Thank you?

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Speaker 3: No tell me what you reckon? Do you reckon? This

1447
01:07:36,840 --> 01:07:38,040
Speaker 3: startup is the winner?

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Speaker 5: Look early days.

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01:07:41,880 --> 01:07:44,160
Speaker 9: Still, that's always the hope, that's always the intention with

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01:07:44,240 --> 01:07:46,720
Speaker 9: these things. You know, we're in the space that's growing,

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01:07:47,440 --> 01:07:49,760
Speaker 9: rapidly evolving, and that often creates the right kind of

1452
01:07:49,840 --> 01:07:51,680
Speaker 9: volatility to really drive a lot of value.

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Speaker 3: The space that's growing is AI. Isn't it.

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01:07:55,320 --> 01:07:57,400
Speaker 9: AI in all forms? Yep? So in our case it's

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01:07:57,440 --> 01:07:59,680
Speaker 9: the content creation side. And if you look at almost

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01:07:59,680 --> 01:08:03,320
Speaker 9: every sector, there's some really convincing narrative for how these

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01:08:03,400 --> 01:08:05,600
Speaker 9: new foundation models are going to really you know, impact

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01:08:06,040 --> 01:08:06,640
Speaker 9: impact space.

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Speaker 3: So what does your business From the sounds of things,

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Speaker 3: If I was to use it, I would type into

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Speaker 3: AI kind of like a promotional video that I'd like

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Speaker 3: it to create, and it would create one up to

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Speaker 3: is it five minutes long?

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Speaker 4: For me?

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01:08:21,160 --> 01:08:23,599
Speaker 9: So right now, a little less than five minutes. It's

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01:08:23,680 --> 01:08:26,160
Speaker 9: really sort of targeted towards short from content most of

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01:08:26,200 --> 01:08:29,280
Speaker 9: the time ninety seconds or less. And in terms of

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Speaker 9: what it does, it really depends on who you are

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Speaker 9: as the user. So there are two kinds of users

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Speaker 9: that we serve. The first as the individual content creator.

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Speaker 9: So somebody who's you know, a YouTuber or even sort

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Speaker 9: of a TikToker can use the software to write, as

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Speaker 9: you said, a text prompt and produce really any kind

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Speaker 9: of video that may or may not be promotional in nature.

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Speaker 9: And that's sort of the individual creator use case. And

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Speaker 9: then second lead for businesses and is what we're sort

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Speaker 9: of rolling out at the moment over the next month

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Speaker 9: or so. You would use this to create short from

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Speaker 9: content that promotes your products, and you would use this, uh,

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Speaker 9: you know, to post organic content on TikTok YouTube, you know,

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Speaker 9: wherever you've previously struggled to have a heights of through

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01:09:06,840 --> 01:09:09,200
Speaker 9: both content. Yeah, so that's that sort of the high

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01:09:09,240 --> 01:09:09,719
Speaker 9: level picture.

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01:09:09,800 --> 01:09:12,760
Speaker 3: Okay, so you managed to get somebody to part with

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01:09:12,840 --> 01:09:15,240
Speaker 3: six million dollars to plug into this, which suggests that

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01:09:15,400 --> 01:09:16,800
Speaker 3: that there are people out there who think this is

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Speaker 3: a winner.

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Speaker 16: Right.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I think the landscape right now for investing in

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01:09:24,240 --> 01:09:26,559
Speaker 9: you know, tech startups is pretty good and an AI

1491
01:09:26,640 --> 01:09:28,280
Speaker 9: as well is also really great. You know, we see

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01:09:28,280 --> 01:09:30,920
Speaker 9: a lot of fundraising activity much bigger than this in

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01:09:31,200 --> 01:09:33,920
Speaker 9: the space too, for you know, new startups creating foundation models.

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01:09:34,439 --> 01:09:35,880
Speaker 9: So I'm very fortunate to be in the you know,

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01:09:35,920 --> 01:09:37,600
Speaker 9: we're we're in a great position from sort of the

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01:09:37,680 --> 01:09:40,519
Speaker 9: capital perspective. Yeah, it's just really exciting.

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Speaker 3: What happened to your last startup? Did that go well?

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Speaker 9: So that was sort of a year long sort of stint.

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01:09:49,120 --> 01:09:52,799
Speaker 9: We were building bike sharing software for companies in America

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01:09:52,920 --> 01:09:57,200
Speaker 9: that operate micromobility systems, and we thought that was really

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01:09:57,400 --> 01:10:00,599
Speaker 9: promising direction. But that was sort of in the of COVID,

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01:10:00,680 --> 01:10:04,120
Speaker 9: and COVID essentially shut down the customers that we were

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01:10:04,160 --> 01:10:06,920
Speaker 9: serving and piloting with, and so at that stage we

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01:10:06,960 --> 01:10:09,760
Speaker 9: had sort of part ways with that unfortunately, which is

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01:10:09,800 --> 01:10:11,240
Speaker 9: a strange first experience.

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01:10:11,240 --> 01:10:13,639
Speaker 3: I would say I was probably quite normal for an entrepreneur.

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01:10:14,080 --> 01:10:16,840
Speaker 3: How did you get from Hamilton to where you are

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01:10:16,960 --> 01:10:18,880
Speaker 3: right now? What's the secret source? Do you reckon?

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01:10:21,960 --> 01:10:25,280
Speaker 9: I wonder with us sometimes I'm not too sure. I

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01:10:25,800 --> 01:10:28,639
Speaker 9: had the itch to go to Harvard for some reason

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01:10:28,720 --> 01:10:30,479
Speaker 9: from when I was a kid. I think my dad

1512
01:10:30,560 --> 01:10:32,840
Speaker 9: probably mentioned the name, and somewhere in my mind I

1513
01:10:32,960 --> 01:10:35,120
Speaker 9: just thought I really wanted to go there. I didn't

1514
01:10:35,120 --> 01:10:37,000
Speaker 9: really think it was possible. And then you know, I

1515
01:10:37,080 --> 01:10:39,519
Speaker 9: met some great people a little bit later into my

1516
01:10:39,560 --> 01:10:41,960
Speaker 9: high school career who gave me some good advice about

1517
01:10:42,000 --> 01:10:44,400
Speaker 9: you know, going going to the States, how you can

1518
01:10:44,479 --> 01:10:46,200
Speaker 9: kind of apply. And that's when I realized like, oh,

1519
01:10:46,240 --> 01:10:49,040
Speaker 9: I have the profile to potentially pull this off. And

1520
01:10:49,320 --> 01:10:51,000
Speaker 9: you know that's how that happened. And then you know,

1521
01:10:51,080 --> 01:10:54,160
Speaker 9: from there, things just compound. There are really great opportunities

1522
01:10:54,200 --> 01:10:56,240
Speaker 9: where I went, and you know that sort of helped

1523
01:10:56,280 --> 01:10:59,040
Speaker 9: me go to you know, Silicon Valley, raise capital, build

1524
01:10:59,040 --> 01:11:02,400
Speaker 9: a team, and you know, ltimately build this company. So yeah,

1525
01:11:02,439 --> 01:11:05,400
Speaker 9: it's it's it's a it's unclear exactly what the secret forces.

1526
01:11:05,439 --> 01:11:08,679
Speaker 9: Maybe it was my my my parents sort of somehow

1527
01:11:08,960 --> 01:11:11,040
Speaker 9: subliminally messaging me when I was when I was young.

1528
01:11:11,080 --> 01:11:11,720
Speaker 9: I'm not too sure.

1529
01:11:12,920 --> 01:11:15,320
Speaker 3: A wee give the education system in New Zealand a

1530
01:11:15,479 --> 01:11:17,320
Speaker 3: very hard time. Are we giving it too hard a

1531
01:11:17,400 --> 01:11:19,120
Speaker 3: time if it's able to send somebody to Harvard?

1532
01:11:22,640 --> 01:11:23,400
Speaker 4: I don't know.

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01:11:23,520 --> 01:11:25,720
Speaker 9: I think I think that wasn't really how I thought

1534
01:11:25,760 --> 01:11:28,120
Speaker 9: about it. I think it was more that, you know,

1535
01:11:29,000 --> 01:11:31,360
Speaker 9: my my parents are doctor as my older brother he

1536
01:11:31,880 --> 01:11:35,120
Speaker 9: went to you know, Otago university to you know, study medicine.

1537
01:11:35,520 --> 01:11:37,519
Speaker 9: And I felt like a lot of my friends wanted

1538
01:11:37,520 --> 01:11:39,479
Speaker 9: to do medicine, but I didn't. And it was almost

1539
01:11:39,520 --> 01:11:42,240
Speaker 9: as though I needed to create my own narrative. And

1540
01:11:42,240 --> 01:11:43,879
Speaker 9: I think that just drove a lot of this activity

1541
01:11:43,920 --> 01:11:46,040
Speaker 9: for me, you know, to partner their disease. Well, I

1542
01:11:46,080 --> 01:11:46,960
Speaker 9: think that's more what it was.

1543
01:11:49,160 --> 01:11:52,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, And what you're telling me is a family of

1544
01:11:52,320 --> 01:11:54,360
Speaker 3: high achievers, which is why you're a high achiever to

1545
01:11:54,479 --> 01:11:55,920
Speaker 3: mate beast of luck with them. And I really hope

1546
01:11:55,960 --> 01:11:57,760
Speaker 3: you do super well and become incredibly wealthy and then

1547
01:11:57,760 --> 01:11:59,920
Speaker 3: we can trade on your name. Somul Singh, founder of

1548
01:12:00,439 --> 01:12:04,080
Speaker 3: Unfazed dot ai, which is the startup. Now, listen, if

1549
01:12:04,120 --> 01:12:06,840
Speaker 3: you have been following the p Diddy story lately, you're

1550
01:12:06,840 --> 01:12:09,280
Speaker 3: gonna know that the rapper, right, the rapper formerly known

1551
01:12:09,280 --> 01:12:12,240
Speaker 3: as puff Daddy, said Sean Coombs whatever he's got a

1552
01:12:12,280 --> 01:12:14,360
Speaker 3: bunch of names, is in trouble with the cops is

1553
01:12:14,360 --> 01:12:15,920
Speaker 3: in trouble with the cops for a bunch of reasons,

1554
01:12:15,960 --> 01:12:18,720
Speaker 3: sexual assaults, illegal activity, has had his house raided, then

1555
01:12:18,720 --> 01:12:21,240
Speaker 3: he got busted in the hotel CCTV smashing up his

1556
01:12:21,320 --> 01:12:22,960
Speaker 3: girlfriend and all that kind of Stuff's not a good look.

1557
01:12:23,360 --> 01:12:25,680
Speaker 3: He might be in even more trouble. Get a load

1558
01:12:25,760 --> 01:12:29,640
Speaker 3: of this. The cop who originally investigated the Tupak Shakum

1559
01:12:29,920 --> 01:12:33,439
Speaker 3: murder all the way back in nineteen ninety six reckons

1560
01:12:33,479 --> 01:12:35,960
Speaker 3: P Diddy was the one who ordered the hit. This,

1561
01:12:36,160 --> 01:12:39,200
Speaker 3: by the way, is the missing piece, because the cops

1562
01:12:39,240 --> 01:12:42,760
Speaker 3: have already arrested Dwayne keif D Davis for doing the murder,

1563
01:12:42,840 --> 01:12:46,080
Speaker 3: and they it took them, goodness, I mean twenty twenty

1564
01:12:46,120 --> 01:12:48,880
Speaker 3: three minus ninety ninety six, almost thirty years. It took

1565
01:12:48,960 --> 01:12:52,240
Speaker 3: them almost thirty years to arrest Dwayne keif D Davis

1566
01:12:52,280 --> 01:12:54,600
Speaker 3: because they only did it in September last year. But

1567
01:12:54,720 --> 01:12:57,680
Speaker 3: they didn't still didn't know who had ordered keif D

1568
01:12:57,880 --> 01:13:00,320
Speaker 3: to do the hit. This cop reckons it was Pead it.

1569
01:13:00,400 --> 01:13:02,639
Speaker 3: He told New York Magazine that p did. He offered

1570
01:13:02,680 --> 01:13:05,280
Speaker 3: a million bucks for the hit on both Tupac and

1571
01:13:05,400 --> 01:13:07,760
Speaker 3: also the producer back in nine and ninety five, the

1572
01:13:07,800 --> 01:13:09,920
Speaker 3: producer who's with him, he says. During a stop on

1573
01:13:09,920 --> 01:13:13,360
Speaker 3: the nineteen ninety five Summer Jam tour in Anaheim, Coombs

1574
01:13:13,360 --> 01:13:16,280
Speaker 3: allegedly told a hotel room full of crip gangsters and

1575
01:13:16,400 --> 01:13:19,840
Speaker 3: that included Davis that he wanted them dude's heads. As

1576
01:13:19,960 --> 01:13:22,280
Speaker 3: Davis put it, ie for someone to kill twuopuck a Knight.

1577
01:13:22,680 --> 01:13:24,519
Speaker 3: Combs may have simply been caught up in the moment

1578
01:13:24,600 --> 01:13:26,679
Speaker 3: tensions were already running high. He was by all accounts

1579
01:13:26,760 --> 01:13:29,680
Speaker 3: legitimately concerned for his safety. But later Davis said over

1580
01:13:29,800 --> 01:13:32,280
Speaker 3: lunch in LA that Sewn Combs offered him a million

1581
01:13:32,320 --> 01:13:34,320
Speaker 3: dollars to get the hit done. According to Davis, he

1582
01:13:34,360 --> 01:13:36,720
Speaker 3: had agreed to the hit, taling Combs, man will wipe

1583
01:13:36,760 --> 01:13:39,840
Speaker 3: their asses out quick. Davis later told Kating the cop

1584
01:13:40,040 --> 01:13:41,240
Speaker 3: he would have done it for fifty k.

1585
01:13:41,680 --> 01:13:42,200
Speaker 5: So there we go.

1586
01:13:42,439 --> 01:13:44,679
Speaker 3: Allegation is out fourteen past six.

1587
01:13:45,760 --> 01:13:49,040
Speaker 1: Crunching the numbers and getting the results. It's Heather Dup

1588
01:13:49,080 --> 01:13:52,400
Speaker 1: for c Allen with the business hours thanks to my HR,

1589
01:13:52,680 --> 01:13:55,320
Speaker 1: the HR platform for SME on news talks.

1590
01:13:55,439 --> 01:13:57,240
Speaker 3: Mb AH head back to the cricket. This is a

1591
01:13:57,280 --> 01:13:59,800
Speaker 3: fair point, Heather. For everyone who's saying that the I

1592
01:14:00,520 --> 01:14:02,479
Speaker 3: is the cause for the black Caps to have failed,

1593
01:14:02,880 --> 01:14:05,759
Speaker 3: can I please ask them how teams like India, Australia

1594
01:14:05,800 --> 01:14:08,120
Speaker 3: Afghanistan are doing so well when their players are also

1595
01:14:08,200 --> 01:14:10,720
Speaker 3: at the same IPL event. Thank you very much, It's

1596
01:14:10,760 --> 01:14:12,680
Speaker 3: worth going back to listen to what Mike Hessen, the

1597
01:14:12,760 --> 01:14:14,599
Speaker 3: former coaches said, because I'm pretty sure it was him

1598
01:14:14,680 --> 01:14:17,479
Speaker 3: that I heard quoted today as saying that he understood

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01:14:17,479 --> 01:14:19,720
Speaker 3: that the players had asked for a rest because, as

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01:14:19,760 --> 01:14:22,000
Speaker 3: you would have heard Paul Allison say, there was a

1601
01:14:22,040 --> 01:14:24,479
Speaker 3: six day gap where they had finished the one tournament

1602
01:14:24,479 --> 01:14:27,000
Speaker 3: and they were able to then, you know, go go

1603
01:14:27,120 --> 01:14:29,840
Speaker 3: get ready for the t twenty and there was no

1604
01:14:30,560 --> 01:14:32,200
Speaker 3: warm up games played them and come on, you could

1605
01:14:32,240 --> 01:14:33,960
Speaker 3: just play one, you know, and get yourself into the

1606
01:14:34,000 --> 01:14:36,040
Speaker 3: pitch and stuff. But from the sounds of things, it

1607
01:14:36,160 --> 01:14:39,160
Speaker 3: sounds like the players may actually themselves have been like, no,

1608
01:14:39,960 --> 01:14:41,800
Speaker 3: it's been so busy at the IPL, we just want

1609
01:14:41,840 --> 01:14:44,120
Speaker 3: to rest when the others didn't rest. So you're right,

1610
01:14:44,160 --> 01:14:46,879
Speaker 3: the problem is not the APL, it's the player's attitude

1611
01:14:46,920 --> 01:14:49,840
Speaker 3: post the IPL seventeen past six. Now Barry so Pre

1612
01:14:49,840 --> 01:14:53,519
Speaker 3: senior political political correspondent, will wrap the political week that

1613
01:14:53,720 --> 01:14:56,240
Speaker 3: was for us. Welcome back, Barry, hello again. Have I

1614
01:14:56,360 --> 01:14:58,000
Speaker 3: farmers will be feeling the love this week? Gay?

1615
01:14:58,160 --> 01:14:59,519
Speaker 7: Well, they will be, and what.

1616
01:14:59,600 --> 01:15:01,759
Speaker 10: A time to feel it when you're at the field

1617
01:15:01,880 --> 01:15:05,880
Speaker 10: days in Hamilton and the government down on Wellington making

1618
01:15:05,920 --> 01:15:08,880
Speaker 10: all sorts of moves on their behalf, first of all,

1619
01:15:09,000 --> 01:15:11,360
Speaker 10: taking them out of the ets.

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01:15:11,920 --> 01:15:13,880
Speaker 7: And that's a big deal for farmers.

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01:15:13,560 --> 01:15:16,759
Speaker 10: Even though, as you heard me say earlier, Willie Jackson

1622
01:15:17,200 --> 01:15:20,439
Speaker 10: seemed to think there had been a broad agreement on it,

1623
01:15:20,520 --> 01:15:23,439
Speaker 10: that was never really an agreement on it. Farmers didn't

1624
01:15:23,640 --> 01:15:26,120
Speaker 10: like it. No one knew how much this tax was

1625
01:15:26,200 --> 01:15:29,680
Speaker 10: going to be. Farmers are already under the pressure, and

1626
01:15:29,880 --> 01:15:34,400
Speaker 10: suddenly now a bit of that pressure is off. There's

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01:15:34,439 --> 01:15:38,160
Speaker 10: been other things that have taken place as well this

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01:15:38,320 --> 01:15:40,719
Speaker 10: week that will make life a bit easier for farmers,

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01:15:41,080 --> 01:15:43,960
Speaker 10: and I think they should. We should start thinking of

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01:15:44,120 --> 01:15:48,040
Speaker 10: them as treasures, not tyrants are They are the backbone,

1631
01:15:48,080 --> 01:15:51,000
Speaker 10: the economic backbone of this country. And the sooner we

1632
01:15:51,080 --> 01:15:54,559
Speaker 10: get used to that, the better because the exports, farming

1633
01:15:55,040 --> 01:15:59,400
Speaker 10: exports way and above outweigh anything else in this country.

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01:15:59,520 --> 01:16:01,080
Speaker 7: So let's look after them.

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01:16:01,200 --> 01:16:05,360
Speaker 3: Basically, we need their money to afford the tilmac buys. Yeah, yes, exactly,

1636
01:16:05,360 --> 01:16:07,439
Speaker 3: I'd be grateful for it. Absolutely. Hey, do you reckon

1637
01:16:07,479 --> 01:16:11,640
Speaker 3: the rules need to change that allow currently MPs to

1638
01:16:11,800 --> 01:16:15,040
Speaker 3: claim an accommodation allowance when they own their own property

1639
01:16:15,080 --> 01:16:15,559
Speaker 3: in Wellington.

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01:16:15,640 --> 01:16:17,600
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think there's about twenty three that do it.

1641
01:16:19,800 --> 01:16:22,840
Speaker 10: Essentially, what the taxpayer is doing is paying their mortgages

1642
01:16:23,600 --> 01:16:27,040
Speaker 10: when they own a property in Wellington. I guess there's

1643
01:16:27,040 --> 01:16:30,800
Speaker 10: an argument both ways on this. Isn't there that if

1644
01:16:30,960 --> 01:16:34,000
Speaker 10: they didn't own the house, they would be staying in

1645
01:16:34,120 --> 01:16:36,560
Speaker 10: an apartment.

1646
01:16:36,560 --> 01:16:38,920
Speaker 7: They have to be paid for. Anyone's not going to render.

1647
01:16:39,080 --> 01:16:40,799
Speaker 3: Changing the rules will not save us a dollar.

1648
01:16:40,680 --> 01:16:44,720
Speaker 10: That's right, and because it is a set amount, and

1649
01:16:45,479 --> 01:16:48,560
Speaker 10: you know, I think that the perception is not a

1650
01:16:48,600 --> 01:16:51,800
Speaker 10: good one. Looks as though MP's unlike anyone else can

1651
01:16:51,840 --> 01:16:56,080
Speaker 10: come to Wellington and pay their mortgage off courtesy the taxpayer.

1652
01:16:56,160 --> 01:16:59,679
Speaker 10: But it's not as simple as that. And Chris Luson

1653
01:16:59,680 --> 01:17:02,639
Speaker 10: said the beginning of this argument, he said, really it's

1654
01:17:02,680 --> 01:17:05,320
Speaker 10: the remuneration authority to have a look at The Speaker

1655
01:17:05,439 --> 01:17:09,919
Speaker 10: can look at it, but it's really the remuneration authority

1656
01:17:09,960 --> 01:17:13,559
Speaker 10: that sets all these rules and regulations. Although the Speaker

1657
01:17:13,640 --> 01:17:16,880
Speaker 10: does have a fairly significant input to them. But the

1658
01:17:16,960 --> 01:17:20,800
Speaker 10: old story is heither to change something like this in

1659
01:17:20,920 --> 01:17:24,320
Speaker 10: a parliament where people are benefiting very difficult.

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01:17:24,439 --> 01:17:26,760
Speaker 3: So tell me, well, I mean, yeah, absolutely right, they don't.

1661
01:17:26,800 --> 01:17:29,120
Speaker 3: They're not going to they're not going to deny themselves

1662
01:17:29,160 --> 01:17:33,240
Speaker 3: in instrum for some free money, do you think, I mean,

1663
01:17:33,400 --> 01:17:36,000
Speaker 3: they are not doing anything wrong, and it will change

1664
01:17:36,040 --> 01:17:38,400
Speaker 3: the rules, will not save the taxpayer a dollar. But

1665
01:17:38,680 --> 01:17:42,320
Speaker 3: for the perception, which is so bad and people clearly

1666
01:17:42,479 --> 01:17:45,240
Speaker 3: hate it, is that sufficient to change the rules?

1667
01:17:46,320 --> 01:17:51,599
Speaker 10: I'd say probably no, really, yeah, because it's not saving anything.

1668
01:17:52,200 --> 01:17:56,439
Speaker 10: And when people understand the reasons why this allowance is paid,

1669
01:17:57,080 --> 01:17:58,760
Speaker 10: and a lot of people don't, as you say it

1670
01:17:58,840 --> 01:18:01,800
Speaker 10: to one say a lightly media point the finger at

1671
01:18:01,840 --> 01:18:06,120
Speaker 10: the politicians for somehow making money on the backs of taxpayers.

1672
01:18:06,160 --> 01:18:09,080
Speaker 10: It's that they're not doing that. They they work away

1673
01:18:09,160 --> 01:18:13,120
Speaker 10: from their homes, they'd be paying a hotel bill. You know,

1674
01:18:13,560 --> 01:18:15,000
Speaker 10: there's no benefit in it at.

1675
01:18:14,880 --> 01:18:15,920
Speaker 7: All for anyone.

1676
01:18:16,080 --> 01:18:18,040
Speaker 3: Do you not think there is some benefit in just

1677
01:18:18,200 --> 01:18:23,280
Speaker 3: having just the perception and the problem with the politicians

1678
01:18:23,360 --> 01:18:26,280
Speaker 3: is they always there is always this perception that politicians

1679
01:18:26,320 --> 01:18:28,680
Speaker 3: are screwing the scrum in their own favor, feathering their

1680
01:18:28,720 --> 01:18:31,400
Speaker 3: own ness, and for that reason alone, that is sufficient,

1681
01:18:31,520 --> 01:18:33,360
Speaker 3: just so that we continue to respect that instant.

1682
01:18:33,479 --> 01:18:33,679
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1683
01:18:33,800 --> 01:18:37,439
Speaker 10: I think the problem is, particularly in recent years, that

1684
01:18:37,640 --> 01:18:42,559
Speaker 10: you've got some people going into parliament that many would

1685
01:18:42,640 --> 01:18:45,519
Speaker 10: consider a morons and they shouldn't be in the place anyway.

1686
01:18:46,400 --> 01:18:49,040
Speaker 10: And yet they're earning very good money. What a one

1687
01:18:49,120 --> 01:18:51,800
Speaker 10: hundred and eighty thousand dollars a year. I've got all

1688
01:18:51,880 --> 01:18:54,280
Speaker 10: sorts of perks, taxis when they get to the airport

1689
01:18:54,360 --> 01:18:57,720
Speaker 10: into Parliament air fears, I mean, they'd get a lot

1690
01:18:57,800 --> 01:19:00,760
Speaker 10: of perks, but they've got to get to Wellington's face it. So,

1691
01:19:01,680 --> 01:19:05,479
Speaker 10: you know, I think people are annoyed that they probably

1692
01:19:05,640 --> 01:19:09,680
Speaker 10: don't get what they expect out of politicians in their

1693
01:19:09,760 --> 01:19:13,559
Speaker 10: own area. Not necessarily the government, but when they look

1694
01:19:13,600 --> 01:19:14,800
Speaker 10: at their own politicians.

1695
01:19:15,520 --> 01:19:17,400
Speaker 7: Yeah, exactly what are we getting back for that?

1696
01:19:17,800 --> 01:19:20,640
Speaker 3: Okay? Do you think that this Chinese visitor is I mean,

1697
01:19:20,680 --> 01:19:22,360
Speaker 3: obviously it's a good sign. Is it going to change anything?

1698
01:19:22,400 --> 01:19:22,559
Speaker 16: Though?

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01:19:22,680 --> 01:19:25,000
Speaker 10: I think it's more of a flagway of being exercise.

1700
01:19:25,080 --> 01:19:28,760
Speaker 10: I mean the premiere was he was in Australia before

1701
01:19:28,800 --> 01:19:32,120
Speaker 10: he came here, and it's good. I think, you know,

1702
01:19:32,600 --> 01:19:36,479
Speaker 10: high level visits like this does say that China takes

1703
01:19:36,560 --> 01:19:42,880
Speaker 10: New Zealand seriously and values our relationship, and so it should.

1704
01:19:42,960 --> 01:19:45,800
Speaker 10: I mean New Zealand was the first Western country to

1705
01:19:45,840 --> 01:19:49,519
Speaker 10: get into a major free trade agreement with China. They

1706
01:19:49,680 --> 01:19:53,559
Speaker 10: recognized China. Remember back in nineteen seventy three, a long

1707
01:19:53,640 --> 01:19:56,439
Speaker 10: time ago, more than fifty years ago, we were the

1708
01:19:56,479 --> 01:20:00,120
Speaker 10: first Western country to recognize China. So you know, I

1709
01:20:00,240 --> 01:20:05,680
Speaker 10: think I think, you know, visits build on a relationship

1710
01:20:06,080 --> 01:20:09,400
Speaker 10: that's pretty strong anyway. And the premier himself, who's a

1711
01:20:09,640 --> 01:20:14,120
Speaker 10: very powerful man, number two in China, said essentially, what

1712
01:20:14,280 --> 01:20:16,280
Speaker 10: we have differences and we respect that.

1713
01:20:16,760 --> 01:20:19,000
Speaker 3: Barry, thank you so much, really appreciate you. I'm Barry Soper,

1714
01:20:19,040 --> 01:20:21,760
Speaker 3: Senior political correspondent rapping the Political Week. It was at

1715
01:20:21,800 --> 01:20:22,439
Speaker 3: six twenty three.

1716
01:20:23,360 --> 01:20:25,920
Speaker 1: If it's to do with money, it matters to you.

1717
01:20:26,320 --> 01:20:30,120
Speaker 1: The Business Hour with Heather Duplicy Allen and my Hr,

1718
01:20:30,439 --> 01:20:32,719
Speaker 1: the HR platform for SME News.

1719
01:20:32,560 --> 01:20:35,000
Speaker 3: Talk said b Yeah, other than Trent Bolt, all of

1720
01:20:35,080 --> 01:20:37,479
Speaker 3: the other black Caps sat on the bench throughout the IPL.

1721
01:20:37,560 --> 01:20:39,680
Speaker 3: So there is actually zero excuse. Thank you for that.

1722
01:20:39,800 --> 01:20:39,920
Speaker 25: Jay.

1723
01:20:39,960 --> 01:20:42,519
Speaker 3: And somebody said that Lockie Ferguson was posting holiday picks

1724
01:20:42,560 --> 01:20:45,320
Speaker 3: from Europe on Instagram after the tournament had started. And

1725
01:20:45,400 --> 01:20:47,719
Speaker 3: the players don't seem to care much about international duty.

1726
01:20:47,920 --> 01:20:49,760
Speaker 3: Can I just say that players don't care much about

1727
01:20:49,800 --> 01:20:52,479
Speaker 3: international duty and this is the future because the IPL

1728
01:20:52,600 --> 01:20:54,120
Speaker 3: right that the big bucks are going to take over

1729
01:20:54,200 --> 01:20:55,920
Speaker 3: and playing for your country is going to be less important.

1730
01:20:56,000 --> 01:20:59,880
Speaker 3: Unfortunately as the way it's going to go. Peter lewis

1731
01:21:00,200 --> 01:21:02,400
Speaker 3: going to be with us shortly because the European Union

1732
01:21:02,439 --> 01:21:04,559
Speaker 3: has gone the way of Biden and imposed some tariffs

1733
01:21:04,560 --> 01:21:07,080
Speaker 3: on the evs. Not quite as hard, not one hundred percent.

1734
01:21:07,080 --> 01:21:09,560
Speaker 3: They've gone less than forty percent. He'll give us his

1735
01:21:09,640 --> 01:21:10,000
Speaker 3: take on that.

1736
01:21:10,680 --> 01:21:10,840
Speaker 4: Now.

1737
01:21:10,880 --> 01:21:13,280
Speaker 3: I told you Ot was involved with that baby in

1738
01:21:13,360 --> 01:21:16,080
Speaker 3: TEKUITI didn't I before the baby was dead. And the

1739
01:21:16,120 --> 01:21:18,160
Speaker 3: reason I was like, nah, I think they were involved

1740
01:21:18,479 --> 01:21:20,760
Speaker 3: was because they weren't being straight up about it. They

1741
01:21:20,800 --> 01:21:22,479
Speaker 3: were trying as hard as hell to avoid having to

1742
01:21:22,520 --> 01:21:23,960
Speaker 3: feace up to the fact that they were involved. But

1743
01:21:24,040 --> 01:21:26,760
Speaker 3: now it's out there because how we know this is

1744
01:21:26,840 --> 01:21:29,240
Speaker 3: that there was a Facebook post that went a little

1745
01:21:29,240 --> 01:21:32,880
Speaker 3: bit wild after the funeral last night. After the funeral,

1746
01:21:32,960 --> 01:21:36,880
Speaker 3: the Babes, the baby's mum, who's called Tovalia Law, took

1747
01:21:36,920 --> 01:21:39,000
Speaker 3: to Facebook to thank all of her family and friends

1748
01:21:39,040 --> 01:21:40,720
Speaker 3: and everyone who came to the son's funeral, and she

1749
01:21:40,720 --> 01:21:42,680
Speaker 3: said her son was a happy and adorable baby and

1750
01:21:42,720 --> 01:21:45,080
Speaker 3: so on, and people just started piling in on it.

1751
01:21:45,600 --> 01:21:47,840
Speaker 3: And that then prompted another relative to pipe up in

1752
01:21:47,880 --> 01:21:50,599
Speaker 3: defense of the family, saying that after the incident in October,

1753
01:21:50,640 --> 01:21:53,280
Speaker 3: the family actually had fought as hard as hell, as

1754
01:21:53,360 --> 01:21:55,479
Speaker 3: hard as we could to keep him home. Now, just

1755
01:21:55,520 --> 01:21:57,679
Speaker 3: to remind you, what happened in October was the baby

1756
01:21:57,800 --> 01:22:00,599
Speaker 3: was badly hurt after the dad fell down the stairs

1757
01:22:00,640 --> 01:22:04,200
Speaker 3: holding the baby, fell down the stairs holding the baby.

1758
01:22:04,880 --> 01:22:06,720
Speaker 3: The baby went to live with the grandparents, then went

1759
01:22:06,720 --> 01:22:08,479
Speaker 3: back to the parents after three months. So the family

1760
01:22:08,560 --> 01:22:11,200
Speaker 3: said after that the family fought as hard as we

1761
01:22:11,240 --> 01:22:14,360
Speaker 3: could to keep him home. The system failed to provide

1762
01:22:14,439 --> 01:22:16,360
Speaker 3: him with a safe home and we were only given

1763
01:22:16,400 --> 01:22:19,759
Speaker 3: what was provided by the system, therefore outing the fact

1764
01:22:20,000 --> 01:22:22,599
Speaker 3: that uding a tamidiki was involved this whole way through, right,

1765
01:22:22,960 --> 01:22:26,400
Speaker 3: So the media of course were like, hey, OT, what's up.

1766
01:22:26,840 --> 01:22:29,680
Speaker 3: And OT then sent out a media statement from the

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01:22:29,720 --> 01:22:33,560
Speaker 3: Deputy Chief Executive Disservice Delivery, Rachel Liota, saying that the

1768
01:22:33,640 --> 01:22:36,320
Speaker 3: agency has now commissioned an assessment of our involvement with

1769
01:22:36,400 --> 01:22:38,759
Speaker 3: the family, which is a standard practice and I'm pleased

1770
01:22:38,760 --> 01:22:41,080
Speaker 3: to see that they're doing this. As this matter is

1771
01:22:41,120 --> 01:22:43,280
Speaker 3: the subject of an active police investigation. We can't go

1772
01:22:43,320 --> 01:22:45,080
Speaker 3: into further details. But that's all you need to know

1773
01:22:45,160 --> 01:22:48,920
Speaker 3: about this is there's your confirmation OT were involved with

1774
01:22:49,080 --> 01:22:53,160
Speaker 3: the baby before the baby died. Once again, OT were involved,

1775
01:22:53,200 --> 01:22:56,880
Speaker 3: but the baby died anyway, So I don't know. I

1776
01:22:56,960 --> 01:22:58,760
Speaker 3: don't know what we do about OT. I don't know

1777
01:22:58,800 --> 01:23:01,400
Speaker 3: what we do about OT. Really quite useless, aren't they?

1778
01:23:02,320 --> 01:23:02,439
Speaker 6: Right?

1779
01:23:02,560 --> 01:23:04,200
Speaker 3: Headlines? Next, and then we're off to Asia to talk

1780
01:23:04,200 --> 01:23:05,719
Speaker 3: to Peter Lewis. News Talks ITB.

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01:23:19,160 --> 01:23:22,679
Speaker 1: Crunching the numbers and getting the results. It's Heather Duplice

1782
01:23:22,800 --> 01:23:26,120
Speaker 1: Ellen with the Business Hours thanks to my HR, the

1783
01:23:26,360 --> 01:23:30,720
Speaker 1: HR platform for SM on News Talks B. Sure me

1784
01:23:30,960 --> 01:23:32,240
Speaker 1: you can conder.

1785
01:23:37,600 --> 01:23:39,559
Speaker 3: Their question on the text? Yeah, why do we always

1786
01:23:39,600 --> 01:23:41,640
Speaker 3: beat up on O T? When do the families and

1787
01:23:41,680 --> 01:23:44,320
Speaker 3: their extended families take responsibility for the safety of their

1788
01:23:44,360 --> 01:23:46,400
Speaker 3: own FUNO and young ones? Why is the state always

1789
01:23:46,439 --> 01:23:49,000
Speaker 3: the bad guy? Just saying Andy absolutely fair point. The

1790
01:23:49,080 --> 01:23:51,320
Speaker 3: reason we beat up on OT in this situation. Look,

1791
01:23:51,320 --> 01:23:53,400
Speaker 3: if if if something was to happen to a baby

1792
01:23:53,479 --> 01:23:55,599
Speaker 3: when there's no warning signs and stuff, and what can

1793
01:23:55,640 --> 01:23:56,400
Speaker 3: you do right there?

1794
01:23:57,200 --> 01:23:57,320
Speaker 4: There?

1795
01:23:57,479 --> 01:24:00,599
Speaker 3: Some people are bad people, but when there have been

1796
01:24:00,640 --> 01:24:03,920
Speaker 3: warning signs and OT's been involved and fails to take

1797
01:24:04,040 --> 01:24:07,400
Speaker 3: the baby away. Well, that's a failure in the job,

1798
01:24:07,439 --> 01:24:09,080
Speaker 3: isn't it. So that's why you get beaten up at

1799
01:24:09,120 --> 01:24:13,080
Speaker 3: that stage. That's why ot gets beaten up on at

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01:24:13,120 --> 01:24:15,160
Speaker 3: that stage. Just to be absolutely clear who I'm talking

1801
01:24:15,160 --> 01:24:17,760
Speaker 3: about beating up at the stage. Talk to Gavin Gray

1802
01:24:17,800 --> 01:24:19,880
Speaker 3: out of the UK. In about ten minutes time, former

1803
01:24:20,040 --> 01:24:22,120
Speaker 3: US President Donald Trump has done an interview with the

1804
01:24:22,160 --> 01:24:24,960
Speaker 3: controversial YouTuber Logan Paul. Now, if you don't know who

1805
01:24:25,040 --> 01:24:27,960
Speaker 3: Logan Paul is, Logan Paul shows energy drinks. He takes

1806
01:24:28,000 --> 01:24:30,639
Speaker 3: part in professional wrestling matches. He videos himself doing wacky

1807
01:24:30,680 --> 01:24:32,559
Speaker 3: stunts for a living. He's a bit on the edge,

1808
01:24:32,600 --> 01:24:35,760
Speaker 3: isn't he? So not too much of a surprise then

1809
01:24:35,840 --> 01:24:38,040
Speaker 3: that he wanted to ask whether the Trump believes in aliens.

1810
01:24:38,800 --> 01:24:44,000
Speaker 25: I met with pilots like beautiful Tom Cruise, but taller, okay, handsome,

1811
01:24:44,360 --> 01:24:49,280
Speaker 25: perfect people, sir. There was something there that was round

1812
01:24:49,400 --> 01:24:52,200
Speaker 25: in form and going like four times faster than my

1813
01:24:52,600 --> 01:24:53,920
Speaker 25: super jet fighter plane.

1814
01:24:55,000 --> 01:24:58,880
Speaker 7: And I look at these guys and they really mean it.

1815
01:24:59,000 --> 01:25:02,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, well answered, Actually for Donald Trump, don't you think

1816
01:25:02,760 --> 01:25:05,320
Speaker 3: put on other people? Twenty three away from seven here?

1817
01:25:05,400 --> 01:25:06,439
Speaker 1: The do for clan.

1818
01:25:06,600 --> 01:25:09,080
Speaker 3: Peter Lewis Asia Business correspondent with US Now Peter, Hello,

1819
01:25:10,320 --> 01:25:12,679
Speaker 3: Hello Hea, Peter. Let me tell you we are fizzling

1820
01:25:12,720 --> 01:25:14,840
Speaker 3: in New Zealand for the Chinese premieer being here. Are

1821
01:25:14,880 --> 01:25:16,800
Speaker 3: the Chinese media fizzing as much as we are?

1822
01:25:18,080 --> 01:25:19,920
Speaker 21: Well, I don't know if they're fizzing as much as

1823
01:25:19,960 --> 01:25:22,280
Speaker 21: you are, but they're certainly covering it. They see this

1824
01:25:22,400 --> 01:25:27,080
Speaker 21: as being an important visit and happening at a pretty

1825
01:25:27,120 --> 01:25:31,799
Speaker 21: crucial time as well. The Chinese state media is focusing

1826
01:25:31,840 --> 01:25:35,320
Speaker 21: on two things. First of all, on the trade aspects.

1827
01:25:36,000 --> 01:25:40,040
Speaker 21: This has been very much presented as a trade visit,

1828
01:25:40,640 --> 01:25:44,080
Speaker 21: and also they're making great play of the friendship between

1829
01:25:44,120 --> 01:25:49,360
Speaker 21: the two countries, between New Zealand and China. The Premier

1830
01:25:49,479 --> 01:25:51,720
Speaker 21: League is basically saying, look, we've been friends for a

1831
01:25:51,800 --> 01:25:54,680
Speaker 21: long time. There may have been some disagreements, but we

1832
01:25:54,760 --> 01:25:57,439
Speaker 21: shouldn't let that become a chasm, he said, and we

1833
01:25:57,479 --> 01:26:01,800
Speaker 21: shouldn't let that block exchanges and cooperation between us. So

1834
01:26:01,880 --> 01:26:05,240
Speaker 21: that's very much the angle that the media out here

1835
01:26:06,080 --> 01:26:09,639
Speaker 21: is taking on it. I think mister Luson is going

1836
01:26:09,680 --> 01:26:12,880
Speaker 21: to New Zealand with a bit of a message for you.

1837
01:26:13,080 --> 01:26:17,400
Speaker 21: He is, of course focusing on the trade opportunities. But

1838
01:26:17,520 --> 01:26:20,320
Speaker 21: I think China is also concerned about first of all,

1839
01:26:21,160 --> 01:26:25,840
Speaker 21: New Zealand taking a stronger role in the Five Eyes Alliance,

1840
01:26:25,880 --> 01:26:29,120
Speaker 21: and in New Zealand has traditionally not been too critical

1841
01:26:29,160 --> 01:26:31,640
Speaker 21: of China in the past, but China's senses that that

1842
01:26:31,800 --> 01:26:36,280
Speaker 21: might be changing under this new government. And it's also

1843
01:26:36,360 --> 01:26:40,120
Speaker 21: concerned about the fact that New Zealand is developing alliances

1844
01:26:40,720 --> 01:26:44,799
Speaker 21: with other countries in the region. Philippines in particular stands

1845
01:26:44,840 --> 01:26:46,960
Speaker 21: out as being an area of concern because China has

1846
01:26:47,080 --> 01:26:51,400
Speaker 21: territorial disputes with the Philippines. So I think the message

1847
01:26:51,520 --> 01:26:55,080
Speaker 21: that when Lee is giving is look, there are all

1848
01:26:55,160 --> 01:26:58,720
Speaker 21: these trade opportunities. We are a huge market for your

1849
01:26:58,760 --> 01:27:02,720
Speaker 21: biggest trading partner. Focus on that and don't focus so

1850
01:27:02,880 --> 01:27:06,720
Speaker 21: much on the politics where we're disagreeing, because if you do,

1851
01:27:07,400 --> 01:27:10,040
Speaker 21: you may find that you don't see so many of

1852
01:27:10,080 --> 01:27:12,599
Speaker 21: those trade opportunities in the future. So I think that's

1853
01:27:12,680 --> 01:27:16,240
Speaker 21: the message has gone to New Zealand with.

1854
01:27:16,920 --> 01:27:19,479
Speaker 3: Hey, speaking of the Philippines, I mean, these guys getting

1855
01:27:19,479 --> 01:27:20,679
Speaker 3: reasonably assertive with China.

1856
01:27:20,760 --> 01:27:25,439
Speaker 21: What's brought this on, Well, the change of governments basically

1857
01:27:25,640 --> 01:27:29,920
Speaker 21: under Tutasi before they were he got very close to

1858
01:27:30,080 --> 01:27:32,960
Speaker 21: President g Gping and to China. The change of governments

1859
01:27:33,280 --> 01:27:37,400
Speaker 21: has taken a totally different stance on this, which is

1860
01:27:37,520 --> 01:27:40,599
Speaker 21: that the Philippines is not prepared to be bullied. It's

1861
01:27:40,680 --> 01:27:44,679
Speaker 21: not prepared to be pushed around. But also it sees

1862
01:27:45,120 --> 01:27:48,840
Speaker 21: the territory that China is claiming as its own as

1863
01:27:48,920 --> 01:27:53,080
Speaker 21: being absolutely essential to the philippines survival. They see it

1864
01:27:53,160 --> 01:27:57,640
Speaker 21: as a described as as an existential threat because these

1865
01:27:58,200 --> 01:28:02,479
Speaker 21: waters contain mineral a lot of shipping goes through them.

1866
01:28:02,479 --> 01:28:06,600
Speaker 21: It's absolutely essential to the Philippines's economy and to the

1867
01:28:06,640 --> 01:28:10,200
Speaker 21: philippines future. So they are taking the view that, you know,

1868
01:28:10,240 --> 01:28:12,840
Speaker 21: we just simply can't afford to let China walk in

1869
01:28:13,680 --> 01:28:17,200
Speaker 21: and claim what they say is right theirs. And they

1870
01:28:17,280 --> 01:28:21,519
Speaker 21: refer to the two thousand and sixty Court of Arbitration

1871
01:28:22,320 --> 01:28:25,880
Speaker 21: which ruled against China's claim in the South China Sea,

1872
01:28:25,960 --> 01:28:29,760
Speaker 21: and they said that there's simply no basis for what

1873
01:28:29,960 --> 01:28:33,960
Speaker 21: China is claiming. But China rejects that and it has

1874
01:28:34,040 --> 01:28:35,760
Speaker 21: ignored it so far since.

1875
01:28:36,479 --> 01:28:39,400
Speaker 3: Hey, what do you make of the fact that Germany

1876
01:28:39,600 --> 01:28:41,840
Speaker 3: and Sweden and Hungry have all broken ranks of the

1877
01:28:41,880 --> 01:28:42,960
Speaker 3: EU on those tariffs.

1878
01:28:44,280 --> 01:28:47,920
Speaker 21: Well, this is very critical in particular for Germany because

1879
01:28:48,760 --> 01:28:54,639
Speaker 21: you know Germany also its sports actually cars from China.

1880
01:28:54,720 --> 01:28:58,479
Speaker 21: Some of the cars that manufactures are exported from China.

1881
01:28:59,120 --> 01:29:03,360
Speaker 21: It's a critical industry to Germany. And they see this

1882
01:29:03,479 --> 01:29:05,519
Speaker 21: as just going to end up in a trade war

1883
01:29:05,560 --> 01:29:09,200
Speaker 21: which is going to damage everyone. They don't see them

1884
01:29:09,400 --> 01:29:12,800
Speaker 21: benefiting from this and winning from this at all, and

1885
01:29:12,920 --> 01:29:15,879
Speaker 21: they see that what China will do to make sanctions

1886
01:29:15,920 --> 01:29:18,120
Speaker 21: of their own, which is just only going to make

1887
01:29:18,240 --> 01:29:23,360
Speaker 21: everyone else worse off. Now the manufacturers that the two

1888
01:29:23,400 --> 01:29:26,719
Speaker 21: countries that are most supporting these sections are France and Spain,

1889
01:29:27,479 --> 01:29:31,479
Speaker 21: and that's because they don't have their own competitive electric

1890
01:29:31,520 --> 01:29:35,200
Speaker 21: people industry that can really compete with China. The one

1891
01:29:35,240 --> 01:29:38,200
Speaker 21: country in Europe that probably can come closest to it

1892
01:29:38,720 --> 01:29:41,600
Speaker 21: is Germany. So that's why there's this big difference at

1893
01:29:41,640 --> 01:29:43,720
Speaker 21: the moment. And I think what we will find is

1894
01:29:43,760 --> 01:29:46,960
Speaker 21: when China decides how it's going to retaliate, it's going

1895
01:29:47,000 --> 01:29:50,759
Speaker 21: to find ways in which it will retaliate most against

1896
01:29:50,800 --> 01:29:54,479
Speaker 21: France and Spain. So things like pork, for example, where

1897
01:29:54,800 --> 01:29:58,200
Speaker 21: Spain exports a lot of pork to China, things like

1898
01:29:58,400 --> 01:30:02,240
Speaker 21: cognac and swept. France is a big exporter and they

1899
01:30:02,320 --> 01:30:04,400
Speaker 21: were trying to avoid the things that are going to

1900
01:30:04,479 --> 01:30:07,479
Speaker 21: damage Germany, which they see has been Maybe it's ally in.

1901
01:30:07,560 --> 01:30:10,599
Speaker 3: This fascinating stuff. I Peter, thank you as always really appreciated.

1902
01:30:10,640 --> 01:30:12,800
Speaker 3: We have a chat to you again next week. Enjoy

1903
01:30:12,840 --> 01:30:15,840
Speaker 3: your weekend. This is a weird one. There's just so

1904
01:30:15,960 --> 01:30:17,559
Speaker 3: much weird stuff going on in this world. I kind

1905
01:30:17,600 --> 01:30:18,960
Speaker 3: of it kind of brings me a little bit of

1906
01:30:19,040 --> 01:30:21,240
Speaker 3: joy because it makes me feel more normal. There is

1907
01:30:21,280 --> 01:30:24,040
Speaker 3: a New Zealand woman who has gone public with the

1908
01:30:24,080 --> 01:30:26,880
Speaker 3: fact that she was stopped going through airport security on

1909
01:30:26,920 --> 01:30:29,360
Speaker 3: her way to Australia. She was moving to Australia and

1910
01:30:29,479 --> 01:30:31,479
Speaker 3: as she was going through airport security, they stopped her

1911
01:30:31,479 --> 01:30:34,680
Speaker 3: because she was carrying her heart in a bag. You

1912
01:30:34,800 --> 01:30:36,920
Speaker 3: heard that right. It was her heart, her own heart.

1913
01:30:37,360 --> 01:30:39,599
Speaker 3: What had happened is that this woman, Jessica Manning, had

1914
01:30:39,640 --> 01:30:42,040
Speaker 3: had a heart transplant eight years ago, but she kept

1915
01:30:42,080 --> 01:30:45,680
Speaker 3: her old heart. And I know what you're thinking at

1916
01:30:45,720 --> 01:30:47,920
Speaker 3: the stage. You want to know what this heart is like, right,

1917
01:30:49,040 --> 01:30:51,000
Speaker 3: because it's not going to be the same as when

1918
01:30:51,040 --> 01:30:54,240
Speaker 3: it was in Yeah, is it? I mean, is it decomposing?

1919
01:30:54,320 --> 01:30:54,840
Speaker 4: What is it here?

1920
01:30:54,920 --> 01:30:56,520
Speaker 3: She is explaining on TikTok.

1921
01:30:57,040 --> 01:30:59,240
Speaker 7: Okay, Now do I store it in the fraser?

1922
01:30:59,360 --> 01:31:02,639
Speaker 10: The answer is no, It is in a double vacuum

1923
01:31:02,720 --> 01:31:06,840
Speaker 10: sealed bag and actually in the heart, which you can't probably.

1924
01:31:06,600 --> 01:31:10,760
Speaker 25: See on video, is that there is fluid inside here.

1925
01:31:10,920 --> 01:31:14,639
Speaker 3: It is a preservative fluid called formaldehyde, and it prevents

1926
01:31:14,680 --> 01:31:19,040
Speaker 3: it from rotting, smelling and decomposing. So no, I can't

1927
01:31:19,120 --> 01:31:19,519
Speaker 3: smell it.

1928
01:31:19,880 --> 01:31:21,920
Speaker 17: It literally just smells like a plastic bag.

1929
01:31:22,320 --> 01:31:25,160
Speaker 3: Thank god, it's not read anymore. By the way, it's

1930
01:31:25,200 --> 01:31:28,360
Speaker 3: now kind of like a pale grayish color because it's

1931
01:31:28,400 --> 01:31:31,760
Speaker 3: been cleaned during the medical research. The poor guy at

1932
01:31:31,840 --> 01:31:34,679
Speaker 3: Biosecurity who pulled this out, imagine that you're like, what's

1933
01:31:34,760 --> 01:31:37,240
Speaker 3: in that? What he had to deal with it?

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Speaker 17: Biosecurity nearly took it off me because I didn't have

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Speaker 17: proof that it was mine and things like that.

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Speaker 3: I mean, fair question, or who else is this going

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Speaker 3: to be?

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 3: But you know, you never know anyway. Apparently the main

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Speaker 3: concern that she was bringing in a new disease or

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Speaker 3: a bio hazard into Australia, but after she explained that

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Speaker 3: they had was her heart and explain her medical history.

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Speaker 3: They let her and her heart go, and question is

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Speaker 3: what does she do with the heart at home?

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Speaker 10: So I just keep it like I churge it at

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Speaker 10: the start, in this flap bag and it kind of

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Speaker 10: just sits up at my wardrobe and all I say

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Speaker 10: it does floats frown over.

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Speaker 3: Now, bro, no, do you know what you need to do?

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Speaker 3: You need to treat it like the placenta, do you

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Speaker 3: know what I mean? You take it home and you

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Speaker 3: bury it. Put find somewhere that you really like, like

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Speaker 3: a tree that you like. I don't know, maybe your parents'

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Speaker 3: family batch, I don't know, the farm, something like that.

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Speaker 3: You go yet, plant it, you put a tree over it,

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Speaker 3: you let it go. You don't only be walking around

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Speaker 3: with formaldehydeart anymore. That's just weird.

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Speaker 1: Quarter two, whether it's macro microbe or just plain economics.

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Speaker 1: It's all on The Business Hour with Heather Duplicy, Allen

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Speaker 1: and my HR, the HR platform for SME US.

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Speaker 3: Talks b Gavin Gray UK corresponds with us. Now even

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Speaker 3: in Gavin, Hi, there given us hungry, you gonna pay this.

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Speaker 26: Fine At the moment, there's a bit of a standoff

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Speaker 26: going on. So Hungry is being fined by the European

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Speaker 26: Union for not following the union's asylum policies. It's a

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Speaker 26: big fine of the roughly four hundred million New Zealand dollars,

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Speaker 26: but of course Hungary is a big recipient of funds

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Speaker 26: from the EU, so it's a bit of an in

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Speaker 26: and out policy this. However, interestingly, the Court, the European's

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Speaker 26: top court that find Hungary has also issued a one

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Speaker 26: million euro a day extra charge until it changes its policy.

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Speaker 26: That's roughly one point six million New Zealand dollars a day. Now,

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Speaker 26: what basically happen is the European Court of Justices annoyed

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Speaker 26: with Budapest, saying it's in breach of a twenty twenty

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Speaker 26: judgment across the European Union and has violated its laws

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Speaker 26: by forcing asylum seekers to travel to Belgrade or Kiev

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Speaker 26: to apply for a travel permit to enter Hungry. They

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Speaker 26: are not allowed to do that. They should instead accept

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Speaker 26: migrants and then process them at that particular point, other

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Speaker 26: than sending them away again. Now, Victor Alban, who's the

1981
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Speaker 26: Prime Minister of Hungary, very outspoken, quite anti EU, said

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Speaker 26: the fine has been quote for defending the borders of

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Speaker 26: the European Union, describing it as outrageous and unacceptable, and

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Speaker 26: then said it seems that illegal migrants are more important

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Speaker 26: to the Brussels bureaucrats than their own European citizens. Well,

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Speaker 26: along with the European elections that we've had this week

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Speaker 26: and a bit of a lurch to the right, sometimes

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Speaker 26: far right in a couple of countries, Hungary certainly prominent

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Speaker 26: in the leading voice of the centers now within the EU.

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Speaker 3: Kevin, how bad are these drug wars in Northeast England getting?

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Speaker 4: Well?

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Speaker 26: They appear to be pretty grim, don't they. So we've

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Speaker 26: had a court case just finished here in the UK

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Speaker 26: up in Northumbria, that's South Townside, so up to the

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Speaker 26: extreme northeast of England, where four men have been found

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Speaker 26: guilty of killing a man during a series of ammonia

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Speaker 26: attacks that were meant to intimidate rival drug gangs. Now

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Speaker 26: they basically would and bang on the door, somebody would

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Speaker 26: open it and they would immediately spray them in the

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Speaker 26: face with ammonia, which is of course highly corrosive, highly poisonous.

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Speaker 26: In one incident, a young woman who police said was

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Speaker 26: not meant to be the target lost her eye in

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Speaker 26: one of the three attacks, such was the level of

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Speaker 26: toxicity from the ammonia. However, the big headline in this

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Speaker 26: story is that one of the attacks they carried out

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Speaker 26: did end out in a fatality. In August, two of

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Speaker 26: the men in the gang knocked on a twenty six

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Speaker 26: year old's front door, sprayed him in the face before

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Speaker 26: stealing from inside his home. He was taken to hospital

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Speaker 26: with life threatening injuries, but he struggled to breathe and

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Speaker 26: then died a short time later, suffering a cardiac arrest.

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Speaker 26: So the four who have been found guilty, ranging in

2013
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Speaker 26: ages from twenty two to thirty nine, are now being

2014
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Speaker 26: sentenced at a couple of weeks time.

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Speaker 3: What happened to the Yorkshire Football Club's ball?

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Speaker 26: This is just one of the funny funny story So

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Speaker 26: of course, lots of the small little football club soccer

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Speaker 26: clubs here in the UK and in particular Naphaton Youth

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Speaker 26: Football Club in East Yorkshire so to the north of England,

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Speaker 26: basically play with footballs that have stamped on them. Napaton

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Speaker 26: Youth Football Club. Now, they didn't realize any were missing,

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01:36:20,840 --> 01:36:25,479
Speaker 26: but they received a contact from Facebook from a beach

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Speaker 26: walker in Holland who said I've got one of your footballs.

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Speaker 26: It's washed ashore on the island of Shilling. Well, the

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Speaker 26: chair and coach of the club, said, how the ball

2026
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Speaker 26: came to arrive some four hundred miles six hundred kilometers

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Speaker 26: across the North Sea is one of life's great mysteries,

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Speaker 26: he said. One of the theories is that the possibility

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Speaker 26: maybe a wayward shot landed in a ditch. The ditch

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Speaker 26: then became a river, The river then swept out for sea,

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Speaker 26: and then the tide did the rest. But we simply

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Speaker 26: don't know. And the man who found the football on

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Speaker 26: Shilling just said he couldn't believe when he read it

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Speaker 26: that had come from the UK. They incidentally, don't believe

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Speaker 26: they have had any foreign football matches from Yorkshire into

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Speaker 26: Shilling and neither, incidentally have they had any they think

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Speaker 26: anywhere their players go and take the ball on holiday

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Speaker 26: and kick it around and then lose it. So extraordinary

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Speaker 26: how it should have made its way all the way

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Speaker 26: from Yorkshire to ter Shilling.

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Speaker 3: It's one of those mysteries. I Gevin, thank you so much.

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Speaker 3: Enjoy your weekend. Gavin Gray, our UK correspondent, eight away

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Speaker 3: from seven.

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Speaker 1: Whether it's micro micro or just playing economics, it's all

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Speaker 1: on a business hour with Hither dupleic Ellen and my HR,

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Speaker 1: the HR platform for SME.

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Speaker 16: Used to sid B.

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Speaker 3: Five away from seven. Sorry, I'm sorry about the hat thing.

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Speaker 3: I've got a lot of ticks from people being like, hey,

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Speaker 3: I was eating and I'm sorry about that because when

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01:37:51,360 --> 01:37:53,800
Speaker 3: the producer told me about it this afternoon, I was

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Speaker 3: eating and I also had the same reaction. So I'm

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Speaker 3: feeling it feels and you know, I can give you

2054
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Speaker 3: a trigger warning next time I think I might do that.

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Speaker 3: You live and you learn. NASA was doing a drill

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Speaker 3: this morning to get a load of this. They were

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Speaker 3: doing a drill this morning where they because they do

2058
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Speaker 3: these kinds of things behind the scenes, you know, everybody's

2059
01:38:10,160 --> 01:38:12,040
Speaker 3: doing drills all the time and practicing and for the

2060
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Speaker 3: big event, right, and they were simulating what would happen

2061
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Speaker 3: if an astronaut had in a medical emergency and they

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Speaker 3: had a NASA flight surgeon calling the International Space Tage

2063
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Speaker 3: Station telling them what to do because the astronaut was

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Speaker 3: in trouble. Whoopsie, they accidentally brought broadcast that on YouTube.

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Speaker 27: Understand that this is any best effort treatment and so

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Speaker 27: whatever you can do is going to be better than

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Speaker 27: doing nothing. And just as an FYI, prior to feeling

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Speaker 27: closing the visor and pressurising the suits, I would like

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Speaker 27: you to check his pulse one more time.

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Speaker 26: Pl copy.

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Speaker 3: At that point, obviously people were flipping out, being like,

2072
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Speaker 3: what is going on up there? But fortunately it was

2073
01:38:56,640 --> 01:38:58,400
Speaker 3: just a drill. But yeah, they did have to come

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01:38:58,439 --> 01:39:00,599
Speaker 3: out and clarify that it was just a drill. One

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Speaker 3: of those unfortunate. Don't hit the red button, don't make

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Speaker 3: that microphone go live. It's one of those ones.

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Speaker 24: Ants Houston, we have a problem. Heither Kenny Logins Footloose

2078
01:39:08,960 --> 01:39:11,120
Speaker 24: to play us out tonight. This is because it is

2079
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Speaker 24: the fortieth anniversary is Barry Soaper identified earlier in the show,

2080
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Speaker 24: the fortieth anniversary of Rob Muldoon calling the snap selection.

2081
01:39:16,960 --> 01:39:18,280
Speaker 24: So I had a quick look to see what was

2082
01:39:18,320 --> 01:39:20,479
Speaker 24: the number one song in New Zealand on that day

2083
01:39:20,560 --> 01:39:22,160
Speaker 24: back in nineteen eighty four, and it was indeed this

2084
01:39:22,320 --> 01:39:25,360
Speaker 24: Footloose by Kenny Loggins. It was at number one for

2085
01:39:25,439 --> 01:39:27,040
Speaker 24: the sixth week in a row, and it would go

2086
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Speaker 24: on to stay at number one for two more weeks.

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Speaker 23: Before.

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Speaker 3: I didn't know that under Rob Muldoon we could get

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Speaker 3: modern music into the country. Well there you go.

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Speaker 24: Must have must have got an import license for it.

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01:39:36,000 --> 01:39:37,920
Speaker 3: Must have had an import license for that one. Jeez,

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01:39:37,920 --> 01:39:39,240
Speaker 3: I'll tell you what. I don't know about you, but

2093
01:39:39,360 --> 01:39:41,920
Speaker 3: I am about ready for another round of the fourth

2094
01:39:42,040 --> 01:39:43,840
Speaker 3: Labor Government, aren't you. I'm ready for them to come

2095
01:39:43,920 --> 01:39:46,000
Speaker 3: and cut some red. I mean, David Seon was kind

2096
01:39:46,040 --> 01:39:47,719
Speaker 3: of getting there, but you know, we need to supercharge

2097
01:39:47,800 --> 01:39:49,519
Speaker 3: him into this stuff. I lud and everybody on board

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Speaker 3: just got hard for that. Anyway, just have to wait

2099
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Speaker 3: a bit more, I think. Anyway, Enjoy your weekend and

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Speaker 3: I'll see your Monday new Soul you.

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Speaker 11: Ba never.

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Speaker 1: For more from Hither Duplessy Alan Drive. Listen live to

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