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Speaker 1: Outrage at the weekend over the Human Rights Commission. This

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Speaker 1: is from some corners, at least. The chief Human Rights

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Speaker 1: Commissioner has been announced as doctor Stephen Rainbow, and he

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Speaker 1: was once accused accused of being transphobic or anti trans.

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Speaker 1: And it's one of those terms that can quickly change

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Speaker 1: the tone or the perception of an article that you're reading.

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Speaker 1: And I remember this from the University college campus protests

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Speaker 1: over in the States. You would read the CNN copy

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Speaker 1: on the story and it would say they were pro

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Speaker 1: Palestinian protesters. You would read the Fox News version and

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Speaker 1: it would say that anti Israel. Who decides what you are?

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Speaker 1: If you're pro one thing, does it automatically make you

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Speaker 1: anti the other? Women's rights campaigners? And this was the

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Speaker 1: point that I think was being made about doctor Stephen Rainbow,

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Speaker 1: the women's rights campaigners. Do they hate or are they

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Speaker 1: anti trans people? Or are they just pro women's rights

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Speaker 1: as they would claim that they are. And equally, just

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Speaker 1: because you want to cease fire and Gaza, it doesn't

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Speaker 1: mean you're antisemitic, does it. There seems to be a

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Speaker 1: polarization happening here. This or you're that, or you're all

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Speaker 1: your or you're nothing or it's black and white, and

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Speaker 1: we do it in the media all the time. We're

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Speaker 1: probably the most guilty of it, I have to say,

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Speaker 1: and whoever is shouting the loudest I think tends to

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Speaker 1: get dominate the news cycle. But then again, what's that

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Speaker 1: based on? Like tweets? Is that really how you decide

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Speaker 1: or define what someone feels about an issue. I always

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Speaker 1: found it odd when it came to abortion, which is

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Speaker 1: a very divisive issue. Obviously, people feel very personally about

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Speaker 1: this issue. Are you pro life or anti abortion? Are

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Speaker 1: you women's choice or pro abortion? Is anybody really pro abortion?

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean. You might want women to choose,

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Speaker 1: but surely nobody's actually pro abortion. I've really got no

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Speaker 1: idea how to resolve this problem of labeling in the

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Speaker 1: media other than when somebody's labeled anti something. Nowadays, I'm

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Speaker 1: inclined to find out why, how and if, to my mind,

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Speaker 1: at least their motivations aren't just pro something else. For

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