1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:03,280 Speaker 1: Jason Wall's political editors in for Barry Soper. Right now, 2 00:00:03,279 --> 00:00:05,400 Speaker 1: Hey Jason, afternoon. He that, so, how many of us 3 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:07,360 Speaker 1: are worried about Donald Trump becoming the president? 4 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:10,280 Speaker 2: Well, as it turns out, quite a few. This is 5 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:12,720 Speaker 2: according to numbers from Talbot Mills, who are the Labor 6 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 2: parties pollsters. However, this was not a poll from the 7 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:17,960 Speaker 2: Labor Party. They didn't commission them. They just kind of 8 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:21,120 Speaker 2: did this on their own volition. So essentially, Talbot Mills 9 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 2: went out to more than one thousand kiwis and asked them, 10 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 2: if Donald Trump wins the US presidential election, how concerned 11 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 2: would you be? So it ranges from not concerned, which 12 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 2: is twenty one point three percent, then to slightly concerned 13 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 2: eight point nine percent, then to moderately concerned, where it's 14 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 2: eleven point eight. Now it gets interesting, very concerned is 15 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 2: fourteen point three and then all the way it extremely 16 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:49,280 Speaker 2: concerned is thirty nine point three percent. Now, Donald Trump 17 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 2: is a polarizing figure, so I wouldn't expect this. This 18 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 2: isn't particularly that surprising to me. I did expect about 19 00:00:56,720 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 2: this level of either very concerned or extremely concerned, but still, 20 00:00:59,840 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 2: I mean, anything forty percent is quite a lot. Now. 21 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:05,679 Speaker 2: It went on to actually talk to the people that 22 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 2: are polled as well about if Donald Trump loses the 23 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:13,400 Speaker 2: US presidential election but whips up conflict, whips up conflict 24 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 2: with claims that he was robbed, and how concerned people 25 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 2: would be there A little bit different here, it was 26 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 2: only fourteen point nine percent of people said that they 27 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:23,680 Speaker 2: were extremely concerned, and the majority of people some or 28 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 2: the people polled here thirty one point seven percent said 29 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 2: that they were slightly concerned. So there's some interesting numbers 30 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 2: in here. But I will note that these numbers are 31 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 2: from early last months, so it was before the shooting. 32 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 2: It was before Trump was actually confirmed as the presidential 33 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:41,480 Speaker 2: candidate for the Republican Party, and obviously before Joe Biden 34 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 2: withdrew from the Democratic candidacy and Kamala Harris was the 35 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 2: front runner there. So you know, there's been a bit 36 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 2: of water on the bridge since these numbers came out, 37 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 2: but it's a good base level to kind of get 38 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 2: a vibe of what New Zealanders are thinking about Donald Trump. 39 00:01:56,920 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 2: And I know what you're going to ask next, what 40 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 2: about the numbers for Kamala Harris. Well, we haven't had 41 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 2: them yet. So I'll see what Talbot Mills thinks about 42 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 2: those soon. 43 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 1: Wasn't actually what I was going to ask next, was 44 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 1: it was going to be the third question, though the 45 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 1: second question is going to be and what are key 46 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 1: we's concerned about? What is it that that's are extremely 47 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 1: concerned about. 48 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 2: Well, it's a good point, and unfortunately this poll doesn't 49 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 2: actually go into that, but you can look at some 50 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 2: of the I know, in the past people have talked 51 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 2: about Donald Trump's rhetoric and probably I mean tangibly, the 52 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:25,919 Speaker 2: biggest thing that New Zealanders would have to be worried 53 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 2: about is increased trade tariffs to the United States, because 54 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 2: that is probably the thing that actually will impact us. 55 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 1: Jason, doesn't this show how deranged we are about him? 56 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 1: I mean here we aren't talking about him increasing trade 57 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:40,799 Speaker 1: tariffs when that is exactly what Joe Biden has just done. 58 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 2: Oh exactly. 59 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 1: And that's why, Gods of a feather, But apparently we 60 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 1: freak out about one more than the other. 61 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 2: And that's why I come back to this idea about 62 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 2: the rhetoric that that Trump is that sort of stuff. 63 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:57,360 Speaker 2: So you know who the key thousands of people that 64 00:02:58,080 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 2: know that's right? 65 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:01,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, take a shell pe you guys. Hey, the AGM, 66 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 1: the Greens AGM, which is kicking off tomorrow, are they 67 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:05,519 Speaker 1: actually going to vote on this walker jumping stuff? 68 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:08,920 Speaker 2: Ah? Interesting? So technically no, there's not going to be 69 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 2: a quote unquote vote about the walker jumping stuff, but 70 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 2: there is going to be a conversation. And you know, 71 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 2: normally minor parties agms aren't really particularly exciting, but because 72 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 2: of the Dahli in Tana saga, this is actually quite 73 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 2: of note. I mean, she's certainly gone from the Greens, 74 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 2: but not forgotten and her shadow is looming large as 75 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:29,920 Speaker 2: they meet down there in christ Church this week. And 76 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 2: I spoke to Chloe Swarbrick about this today and I 77 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 2: asked her exactly that I said, is this something going 78 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 2: to be over shadowing the Greens? 79 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 1: Jason? Are you are you? Have you stuffed something else? 80 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 2: Like? I know that was Chloe Swarwick saying that she 81 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 2: was basically coming out. She was saying that it's she's 82 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 2: not worried about the this overshadowing the Greens. It's a 83 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 2: novel and an interesting sit of circumstances and in terms 84 00:03:57,160 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 2: of I mean, what will obviously be the elephant in 85 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 2: the room of three about the whole agm, the Dali 86 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 2: and Para saga, the Waker jumping legislation. Could you just 87 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 2: walk me through the process of what's happening this weekend. 88 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure. 89 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 2: It's not so much the elephant in the room as 90 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 2: an item on the indust So, I mean, I technically 91 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 2: she's right, it is an item on the agenda, but 92 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:17,479 Speaker 2: I do think it is probably going to be the 93 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 2: elephant in the room here. What's happening behind these quite 94 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 2: closed doors is quite significant. The Greens are very, very democratic, 95 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 2: but I'm told it's not going to be a simple 96 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 2: yes no vote over the waker jumping legislation this weekend. 97 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 2: Members will have to have a discussion session where their 98 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 2: party will talk about what will happen if she doesn't resign, 99 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:37,279 Speaker 2: which is the current situation we're in at the moment. 100 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 2: So it's a big wait and see. We do know 101 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 2: that there is going to be a conversation about it 102 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 2: tomorrow and then Chloe's going to come out and tell 103 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 2: us all about that. But we're in on childed territory 104 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 2: if they do want to walk a jump her, because 105 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 2: you know, good f shaama, it didn't happen with him, 106 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 2: Jamie Lee Ross, Elizabeth Carey, Carey, Mecha Fight, Teddy. None 107 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:56,920 Speaker 2: of these people will walker jump, so if they are, 108 00:04:57,040 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 2: it is triggered. It's going to be interesting to see 109 00:04:59,120 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 2: how this plays out. 110 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 1: I reckon they can get away with it, because I 111 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 1: don't reckon most people care. What do you think? Most 112 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 1: people just want to see the back of Darling because 113 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:07,359 Speaker 1: it's clear she's just milking that teet. 114 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 2: Oh and I agree, and I think that's something that 115 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:12,280 Speaker 2: they'll be talking about. I mean, the Wacker jumping conversation 116 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 2: was so twenty eighteen. They're looking at what's happening here 117 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 2: and now. 118 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, you and I care. We can see 119 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:18,839 Speaker 1: the hypocrisy in it, but I think they'll get away 120 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 1: with it. Jason, thank you very much. We'll chat to 121 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 1: you again. Wrap the political week at quarter past six. 122 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:26,600 Speaker 1: That's Jason Wall's Political Edity. For more from Hither Duplessy 123 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 1: Alan Drive, listen live to news Talks. It'd be from 124 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:33,160 Speaker 1: four pm weekdays, or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.