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Speaker 1: How slick do we look? On our way to Japan?

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Speaker 1: A couple of fuses blind leaves on a commercial flight

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Speaker 1: and the rest get left behind in P and G

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Speaker 1: for the night before they go to Brisbane, before they

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Speaker 1: get picked up and taken to Tokyo. Our political letters

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Speaker 1: to Jason Wall has drawn this political short straw enders

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Speaker 1: with us. Jason, very good morning to you.

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Speaker 2: Good morning.

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Speaker 1: Make What time is it in P and G?

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Speaker 2: I just went three am.

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Speaker 1: Okay, look, so fourteen past three? And what'd you do

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Speaker 1: last night? Where do you stay in P and G

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Speaker 1: when you're stuck?

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Speaker 2: Oh? Listen, mane. I couldn't tell you where we are.

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Speaker 2: We're in some hotel in P and G. It's quite nice.

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Speaker 2: Basically it was headed down to the entire time while

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Speaker 2: we tried to figure out what was going on. I

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Speaker 2: couldn't tell you which way is up at this stage

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Speaker 2: because there were so many different changes to the plan.

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Speaker 2: All I know is that we're up. We're leaving from

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Speaker 2: P and G to go to Brisbane in a couple

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Speaker 2: of hours before getting an a New Zealand plane that's

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Speaker 2: been diverted from New Zealand to Brisbane before going to Japan.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, there's still a lot of unanswered questions as

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Speaker 2: to what's going on here, but we're slowly inching our

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Speaker 2: way towards Japan.

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Speaker 1: You are on the seven five seven from p Andng

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Speaker 1: to Brisbane.

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Speaker 2: Well, at this stage that's the plan. I mean, anything

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Speaker 2: can happen. We could get to the airport and they

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Speaker 2: could tell us something else has gone wrong. So I'm

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Speaker 2: not holding out much hope given what happened yesterday, But

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Speaker 2: that is the plane of the stage.

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Speaker 1: How did yesterday unfold? Is there a sense of panic

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Speaker 1: or upset or angle or fury or resignation or depression.

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Speaker 1: What's the vibe when this unfolds.

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Speaker 2: Well, there's always a sort of a slight glimmer of hope.

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Speaker 2: We were initially told that there was something that was

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Speaker 2: wrong that was only going to take an hour, and

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Speaker 2: then we thought, okay, that's fine, but this is about

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Speaker 2: my third or fourth breakdown, so I kind of I

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Speaker 2: kind of had a whop something else was going on.

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Speaker 2: And at one point we saw the Prime Minister's delegation

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Speaker 2: go up to the plane and so we thought, oh,

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Speaker 2: everything's fine, they're getting back on, and then they grabbed

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Speaker 2: all their gear and left, and by this point, nobody

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Speaker 2: had told us what was going on. So seeing them

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Speaker 2: all having their gear and leaving and then getting into

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Speaker 2: the Prime Minister's convoy and then leaving the airport was

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Speaker 2: quite the head scratcher because at that point we hadn't

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Speaker 2: really been told what was going on, and then from

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Speaker 2: there we were basically just given rolling updates every hour

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Speaker 2: or so that something has gone on or something has broken.

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Speaker 2: And then here we are.

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Speaker 1: Like a shag on a rock. Does is there not

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Speaker 1: a point person? I mean does the Prime Minister surely

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Speaker 1: goes to the Business delegation and goes, guys, once again,

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Speaker 1: this is embarrassing. I'm so sorry, I'm leaving for Japan.

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Speaker 1: Let's get you up there as quickly as does he

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Speaker 1: not say anything to anybody?

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm not sure how it played out with the

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Speaker 2: Business delegation. We were all in the same room with

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Speaker 2: them in this holding area in the p ANDNG airport

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Speaker 2: and they were getting about as much information as we were.

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Speaker 2: It was all going through fran Dame Therese Walsh, who

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Speaker 2: is the lead of the business delegation here, and she'd

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Speaker 2: be ushered into a room to be told what was

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Speaker 2: going on, But the Prime Minister leaving took everybody by surprise.

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Speaker 2: I mean I saw his face in his the side

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Speaker 2: profile of his face as he was leaving in the motorcade,

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Speaker 2: and he looked dark. He was not happy with what

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Speaker 2: was going on, because obviously he said on your show

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Speaker 2: this time yesterday that no spots or maybe so the

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Speaker 2: Defense Force plane is going to get to Japan. And

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Speaker 2: obviously that hasn't happened.

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Speaker 1: No, it has not. So in New Zealand, divert to Brisbane,

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Speaker 1: they pick you up and the textpayer picks up the

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Speaker 1: tab to get you into Tokyo. All things going well,

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Speaker 1: When do you land in Japan?

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Speaker 2: All things going well? About eight thirty pm tonight is

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Speaker 2: what we're told.

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Speaker 1: Okay, and then he'll carry on and do his thing

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Speaker 1: in the business delegation. We'll look to do whatever that way.

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Speaker 1: How long are you there for?

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Speaker 2: Well, we're only there till a Thursday, and that's then

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Speaker 2: when the big supports part of this trip is happening.

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Speaker 2: That's when he's meeting with President Kashita. And there's the

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Speaker 2: various different political elements of the trip. There are a few.

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Speaker 2: The thing is, we're not missing any big set pieces today.

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Speaker 2: There is a few sort of visits and various different

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Speaker 2: openings of things and MoU to be signed. So it's

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Speaker 2: not the end of the world. We actually still get

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Speaker 2: there for the big Prime minister. It's a Prime minister

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Speaker 2: meeting on Thursday. But it's still you know, a national

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Speaker 2: embarrassment for this to happen yet.

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Speaker 1: Again, Yes it is. We'll talk to the go well, Jason,

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Speaker 1: I wish you all the very best of luck. Seven

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Speaker 1: five seven to Brisbane. So he's going in completely the

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Speaker 1: wrong direction of course before in New Zealand' sweep across

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Speaker 1: and pick him up. And I'm when it's say him,

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Speaker 1: it's the whole media delegation. It's the business delegation. Isn't

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Speaker 1: that story about lux and unusual? Wouldn't you, as the

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Speaker 1: leader of the delegation go to the business people. You

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Speaker 1: know you got Greg Fum there, You've got Peter Beck

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Speaker 1: of Rocket Lab. For God's sake, wouldn't you go and

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Speaker 1: go look? You know how embarrassing anyway. For more from

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