1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:04,600 Speaker 1: International correspondence with endsit Eye Insurance Peace of Mind. 2 00:00:04,640 --> 00:00:06,120 Speaker 2: For New Zealand Business. 3 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 1: News correspondent Dan Mitchison is with US nack Yo to Dan, Hey, Jack, 4 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 1: you've been you've been watching the vice presidential debate. So 5 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:16,280 Speaker 1: what's you take? Who won? And why? 6 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 2: I think this debate was more enjoyable and more civil. 7 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:24,160 Speaker 2: In fact, I think civility is the word I would 8 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:26,640 Speaker 2: have used to describe the debate tonight and the presidential one. 9 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 2: I mean, Vance was obviously much more polished. Waltz came 10 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 2: off as a little nervous, especially off the top, but 11 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:34,160 Speaker 2: he has said before he doesn't like speaking in front 12 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:36,519 Speaker 2: of crowds and gets a little nervous and flustered. But 13 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 2: I'll tell you this, both seem more respectful one another 14 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 2: than Trump and Harris did during the debate and bosher 15 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 2: cans before and after the debate as opposed when Harris 16 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:46,519 Speaker 2: had to walk over to get Trump to to acknowledge 17 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 2: her at the beginning of their debate. 18 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:50,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, it's it's funny, isn't It's kind of 19 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 1: a low bar have a more civil debate than the 20 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 1: presidential one. But how influential or impactful is this likely 21 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 1: to be the context of the presidential race. 22 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 2: I don't think much. I mean, you know, that's the 23 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 2: question everybody's asking is how many minds will it? Will 24 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 2: it change tonight? And I mean the percentage of voters 25 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 2: who have said they don't know who they're voting for 26 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:14,639 Speaker 2: right now is really in single digits at this point. 27 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:16,680 Speaker 2: So I can't think of a time when I, as 28 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:18,119 Speaker 2: a voter, have said, you know, I'm going to switch 29 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 2: my vote because of a party's VP choice. That said, 30 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 2: in some ways, I think tonight's debate was probably more 31 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:26,320 Speaker 2: interesting in some ways in the presidential one, just because 32 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:28,120 Speaker 2: we haven't heard as much from these two as we 33 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 2: have from Harris and Trump, and maybe we have a 34 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 2: little bit more, But I just don't think the general 35 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 2: public is as familiar with both of them as they 36 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 2: are with the presidential candidates. 37 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:39,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of people have questioned Donald Trump's choice 38 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:42,040 Speaker 1: of running mate. They said that J. D. Varnce was 39 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:45,399 Speaker 1: a bad call. Do you think that his performance in 40 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 1: this debate will go some way in quieting that criticism. 41 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 2: I think it might. I think there are people on 42 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 2: the Democrats side already in the spin room they were saying, well, 43 00:01:56,320 --> 00:02:00,080 Speaker 2: he didn't come off with a plan. But I think 44 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 2: the I think the tough part for him tonight was 45 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 2: and he was very polished. I mean, he came on. 46 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 2: If I had to choose a winner tonight, I would 47 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 2: certainly say that he probably came off the winner. But 48 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 2: when when Governor Waal said Advance and he was referring 49 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 2: to Donald Trump about this, you know, asking did he 50 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:18,360 Speaker 2: lose a twenty election, and Vance said, tim, I'm focused 51 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 2: on the future. So Wal said that is a damning 52 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:23,239 Speaker 2: non answer. And I think that quote right there is 53 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 2: the one that's going to come back to sort of 54 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 2: bite him and maybe erase the other sixty plus minutes 55 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 2: before that was brought up, and it was one of 56 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:33,080 Speaker 2: the weaker points from him. But overall, I thought both 57 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 2: of them were very agreeable at times with one another, 58 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:38,079 Speaker 2: which is something you're not used to having candidate say hey, 59 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 2: you know what, you make a good point, or yes, 60 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 2: I agree with you. But and then they would go 61 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:44,639 Speaker 2: on to you know, spin their own version of the truth. 62 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:48,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll tell you what does it's You know, the 63 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 1: Trump campaign hasn't had that much momentum in the last 64 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 1: six weeks. They have really struggled off the momentum, off 65 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 1: the back of that Republican convention. So this is something 66 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:00,240 Speaker 1: on that front, you know, I think so, oh, I. 67 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 2: Think it's something that's gonna, you know, certainly make the 68 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:04,399 Speaker 2: news cycle tomorrow. But you're right, I don't think there's 69 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:06,639 Speaker 2: been a lot, especially since Harris jumped into the race. 70 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 2: And I think Donald Trump just seems very, very tired. 71 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 2: He just doesn't have that spark. He just doesn't have 72 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 2: that energy or that you know that well, you know, 73 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:17,800 Speaker 2: to quote Rocky three that I had the Tiger. I 74 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:20,519 Speaker 2: guess that he had the first time around, or even 75 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 2: before when he was going up against Biden. 76 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:24,959 Speaker 1: Now talk to us about the US involvement in the 77 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 1: Middle East conflict. Were two from here? 78 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:29,800 Speaker 2: Well, I mean that's a good question. I mean President 79 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 2: Biden is again, you know, reaffirming his support as he 80 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 2: has for Israel, and he said that he was fully, 81 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 2: fully fully I think he used three or four follies 82 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 2: supportive in remarks that he made earlier today. And he's 83 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 2: been at the White House in the situation room. He's 84 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 2: watching what's going on with Iran, and I think he 85 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 2: said that this is sort of an active discussion in 86 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 2: what's going to happen moving forward. I mean, Republicans like 87 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 2: Mitch McConnell have said, you know that that Iron should 88 00:03:56,840 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 2: face severe consequences, and I don't know, Jack this is 89 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 2: I mean, this is something that a lot of people 90 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 2: thought that that might happen sooner rather than later going 91 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 2: into the election. Right now, I think this could be 92 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 2: sort of Biden's boy. I think this could be a 93 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 2: big burden on his administration right now. And I think 94 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:16,720 Speaker 2: Kamala Harris is going to probably keeping a very close 95 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:18,160 Speaker 2: eye on what mister Biden does too. 96 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 1: It's just not obvious to see how it's going to 97 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:23,039 Speaker 1: be de escalated, right because you have, first of all, 98 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:27,159 Speaker 1: the Israelis striking parts of southern Lebanon, striking parts of 99 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 1: their route. You have some limited troops, but troops done 100 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 1: the less on the ground in Lebanon. You have Iran responding. 101 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 1: You then have Israel promising to respond to Iran. And 102 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:39,479 Speaker 1: if Israel responds to Iran, it's hard to see how 103 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 1: Iran is and then going to respond to Israel and 104 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:44,160 Speaker 1: how do we get out of this. No one seemed 105 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:46,599 Speaker 1: to be plenty for an obvious solution to actually breaking 106 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:47,160 Speaker 1: the cycle. 107 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 2: I think you'd kind of just sum that up in 108 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 2: fifteen seconds better than I could to tell you the truth. 109 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 2: And quite honestly, I think there are a lot of 110 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:56,480 Speaker 2: people over here, and this sounds very cold to say, 111 00:04:57,120 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 2: probably aren't paying the kind of attention that they should 112 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 2: to what is going on over there, just because of 113 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:03,919 Speaker 2: everything that's going on here at the moment, and with 114 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:06,360 Speaker 2: the election, you know, a month and a half away 115 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 2: right now, I think this is just sort of background 116 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 2: noise right now, and obviously, as you know, it shouldn't 117 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:13,040 Speaker 2: be background noise. It should be in the forefront of 118 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 2: the news cycle. 119 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:16,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, Hey, thank you so much, Dan, always appreciate your time. 120 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 1: Yous correspondent Dan Mitchinson with us for more from Hither 121 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 1: Duplessye Allen Drive. Listen live to news Talks it'd be 122 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 1: from four pm weekdays, or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.