1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:03,960 Speaker 1: Richard Arnold our US correspondents, Three Israeli hostages have been 2 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 1: released from her Maas back into Israel. The latest with 3 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:10,160 Speaker 1: the Middle East cease fire. Richard is with us this morning, 4 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:10,880 Speaker 1: Good morning. 5 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 2: Good morning Ryan. Three out of how many? Yeah, three 6 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:16,560 Speaker 2: out of a lot. A bumpy start for the first 7 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:20,160 Speaker 2: hurdle being passed now in this fragile effort between Israel 8 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 2: and Hamas. Three hostages, as you say, arriving in Israel. 9 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 2: Three Israeli women, Rome gonn Emily Damari and doren Steinbreckers. 10 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 2: So that's three of nearly one hundred hostages still unaccounted 11 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:35,559 Speaker 2: for taken by Hamas in their body attacks some fifteen 12 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 2: months back. Their release came after another last minute delay 13 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:41,920 Speaker 2: this day, during which the Israelis opened fire once again 14 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 2: and Gars are killing at least twenty six people. Scores 15 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 2: of Palestinian prisoners are being released by Israel in this 16 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 2: opening phase of the process as well. When Hamas failed 17 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 2: to put out the names of the three hostages being freed, 18 00:00:56,720 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 2: that brought on this delay, a small right wing faction 19 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 2: of the Israeli cabinet, so called Jewish Power faction, then 20 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 2: quit the cabinet. The hostages were put into cars in 21 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 2: Gaza by armed Palestinians wearing masks so they couldn't be 22 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:09,399 Speaker 2: identified by anyone, and in the midst of what was 23 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 2: a pretty chaotic crowd. So that's step one. The first 24 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 2: phase is supposed to extend over six weeks, and then 25 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:18,399 Speaker 2: their follows Phase two, which will be even harder as 26 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 2: they look to the ongoing roles of Israeli troops and 27 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:26,120 Speaker 2: the administration over Gaza and it's devastation. Obviously, still food 28 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:28,679 Speaker 2: and supplied trucks are starting to move in in significant 29 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 2: numbers again, but once more, there is a long way 30 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 2: to go with it all. President Biden, on his final 31 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 2: day in office, was able to announce a short time 32 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:39,759 Speaker 2: ago that there had been an historic development. 33 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:42,919 Speaker 3: He said, today the guns in Gaza have gone sailent. 34 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:45,959 Speaker 2: He says, this is perhaps the toughest foreign policy effort 35 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 2: he's ever been engaged in, says Biden. 36 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 3: Today's sees fire in Gaza and the release of hostages 37 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 3: is a result of a principle and effective policy that 38 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 3: we presided over for months, and we got it with 39 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 3: a wider war in the Middle East than many predicted. 40 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 2: He also says there are other positive opportunities in the 41 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:09,240 Speaker 2: region with the weakening of Hesbolara and Lebanon and some 42 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 2: other changes that we've seen in the process of this. 43 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:15,800 Speaker 3: We've reached the point today because of the pressure Israel 44 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 3: built on a mast backed by the United States, the 45 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:23,920 Speaker 3: side regime next door and series gone. Iran is in 46 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 3: the weakest position in decades after the US military helped 47 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 3: defend Israel from Iranian missiles and supported Israel's military response 48 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 3: inside Iran. 49 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 2: So this has been catastrophic despite words of supposed optimism. 50 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 2: What around twelve hundred Israelis killed in that initial attack 51 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 2: by Hamas and forty seven thousand Palestinians killed. An incredible 52 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 2: political division ongoing. There is so much uncertainty head and 53 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:50,520 Speaker 2: I've got to say comfests issues of the region yet 54 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 2: to be decided. 55 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 1: Certainly is Richard. We have been talking this morning about 56 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 1: tech took It's gone dark in the US overnight, but 57 00:02:57,560 --> 00:02:58,960 Speaker 1: Trump will bring it back to life. Right. 58 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 2: Well, we'll see what happens. But only a few hours 59 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 2: after they put up the warning notices saying that TikTok 60 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 2: had gone offstream, Trump said he will sign an executive 61 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:15,520 Speaker 2: order now to stall the ban on the app, the 62 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 2: site used here by around one hundred and seventy million people. 63 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 2: Pretty stoning numbers, aren't they. The TikTok site has been 64 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 2: removed also as an app from Apple and Google stores. 65 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 2: But as I say, just a short time after this 66 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:30,360 Speaker 2: happened midnight last night here Trump said on his social 67 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 2: media the companies should not lettok stay dark in this way, 68 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 2: and that he will issue the order tomorrow giving TikTok 69 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 2: an extra ninety days while they work out how to 70 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 2: deal with what Polly's here see as the dangers posed 71 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 2: by ByteDance the Chinese owners. So add this to Donald 72 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 2: Trump's day, one, promises, I guess instead it's boss. The 73 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 2: boss of TikTok, Charles, who was Singapore rean, is appealing 74 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 2: directly to Trump and will attend his inauguration tomorrow. He 75 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 2: says this, I want to thank President Trump for his 76 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 2: commitment to work with those well. In his first term, 77 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 2: Trump was calling for TikTok to be closed, but he 78 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 2: found it pretty effective in his last campaign, so he 79 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 2: switched views on all of this. However, other lawmakers have 80 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:13,839 Speaker 2: not so. Speaker Mike Johnson today. 81 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 4: It's not the platform that members of Congress were concerned about. 82 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 4: It's the Chinese Communist Party and their manipulation of the algorithms. 83 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 4: They have been flooding the minds of American children with 84 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:27,719 Speaker 4: terrible messages glorifying violence and anti Semitism and even suicide 85 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 4: and eating disorders, I mean crazy kind of stuff. 86 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 2: Well, the Biden teams say they are not the ones 87 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 2: who initiated the anti TikTok campaign, but many who make 88 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 2: money through this site are infuriated by what is going on. 89 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 5: Is the difference between a video posted on TikTok that 90 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:45,599 Speaker 5: generated about two thousand dollars in revenue and looking on 91 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 5: Instagram and that same video I made three dollars from it. 92 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 2: Elon Musk says he would be willing to buy TikTok, 93 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 2: So what owning Twitter or x and TikTok as well? 94 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 2: President Biden has spoken of his worries about the growth 95 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 2: of Amiga Zoo millionaire oligarchy and attending the Trump inauguration 96 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:07,040 Speaker 2: tomorrow will be among many others. Elon Musk, Jeff Bezos, 97 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 2: Marke Zuckerberg, and the whole host of Silicon Valley tech bros. 98 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 2: Or grasping for power. 99 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 1: Fascinating stuff isn't it and Trump has just posted a 100 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 1: message on true social I'll tell you exactly what he 101 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 1: has said. It's quite interesting what he's proposing and the 102 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 1: timing around it as well. Richard, thanks you time. Richard 103 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 1: Arnold our us correspondent on News Talk SEBB. 104 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:29,719 Speaker 2: For more from The Mic Asking Breakfast, listen live to 105 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 2: News Talk st B from six am weekdays, or follow 106 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 2: the podcast on iHeartRadio