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Speaker 1: Right. Perhaps not surprisingly, the agonizingly lengthy and fantastically tedious

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Speaker 1: Green's approach to Darlinge Tanner has reached another turning point.

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Speaker 1: She has officially declined their request to quit, and so

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Speaker 1: the party will now presumably enact the Wacker jumping law

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Speaker 1: and boot her out and Darling Tana as well as

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Speaker 1: very good morning to you.

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Speaker 2: Good morning to you to Kilda.

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Speaker 1: Should the report be released in full? Do you think?

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Speaker 2: Because I resign myself to make you surprised that it

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Speaker 2: hasn't been leaked already, to be honest with you, but.

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Speaker 1: Should it be released in full so we can all

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Speaker 1: read it and all make up our minds once.

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Speaker 2: And for all. Look, I think it's very clear for

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Speaker 2: me that I have I do not recognize the findings

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Speaker 2: of the report.

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Speaker 1: I'm not asking it that, I'm just saying, should it

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Speaker 1: be released in full so we can all work out

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Speaker 1: for ourselves whether you're a good or not.

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Speaker 2: You can read it and then you'll make a conclusion

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Speaker 2: that it doesn't necessarily represent what actually happened. Direct evidence

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Speaker 2: was not taken into account and investigation.

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Speaker 1: So that was a stitch up, you think.

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Speaker 2: Look, I've heard the words which Hunt absolutely right.

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Speaker 1: So a stitch up. So they played a lawyer God

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Speaker 1: knows how many tens of thousands of dollars to stitch

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Speaker 1: you up.

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Speaker 2: Look the whole process. For me, it's very clear when

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Speaker 2: I look back on how everything happened. The decision to

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Speaker 2: get me to resign was premidicated from the get go.

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Speaker 1: Why because they don't like you.

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Speaker 2: I became uncomfortable, Because no, they had to become really uncomfortable.

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Speaker 2: I mean, we're on the back of how many very

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Speaker 2: very difficult situations with MPs in Parliament, and so you know,

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Speaker 2: you take a decision. You just want to be able

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Speaker 2: to get onto the job. And I just became a

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Speaker 2: fool on this side. And it was just easier and nice,

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Speaker 2: just so much easier if I would have moved on.

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Speaker 1: Do you think that if I read the report in total,

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Speaker 1: I would come to the conclusion that you abused in

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Speaker 1: some way migrants.

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Speaker 2: No, the finding doesn't find any conclusion of migrant exploitation

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Speaker 2: at all. The investigation was into how much did I know?

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Speaker 2: Was I likely to have known that whatever it was

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Speaker 2: that my husband was up doing this business, And effectively

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Speaker 2: that's what the report found that I was more than

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Speaker 2: likely to have known on the basis that I'm married

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Speaker 2: to the guy and.

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Speaker 1: Other migrants liars.

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Speaker 2: I would never suggest that.

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Speaker 1: Are they people who don't tell the truth in the

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Speaker 1: most fulsome of nature.

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Speaker 2: Listen, I don't even know the guys so well. Even

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Speaker 2: if I did, I would never accuse somebody of that

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Speaker 2: that is, that is not appropriate to do that at all.

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Speaker 2: They're quite within their rights. If they have concerns within

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Speaker 2: their employers, they're quite within their rights to raise those concerns.

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Speaker 2: And if they don't reach restitution, you know, directly with

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Speaker 2: their employer to go through the ERO process and that

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Speaker 2: that's what they've done. That is what is ongoing, and

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Speaker 2: it's the process to deal with that. It's not pulling

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Speaker 2: it into the media just because you know the owner

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Speaker 2: of the business is married to an MP.

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Speaker 1: The Green for Darlene who came up with that, that's

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Speaker 1: quite clever.

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Speaker 2: That was part of our Campaignting party Green darn yeah.

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Speaker 1: So as you sit here, as you sit here, you're

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Speaker 1: not representing anybody anymore and nobody voted you into Parliament

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Speaker 1: and so is there anything within that that sits uncomfortably

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Speaker 1: right thing and just nap off.

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Speaker 2: My decision to stay was extremely considered and taking into

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Speaker 2: account exactly you know, that was one of the key

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Speaker 2: points about mandate do I have that you don't and

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Speaker 2: had I not been inundated with you know, demands to stay, because.

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Speaker 1: That's what we call in the industry and what we

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Speaker 1: call the industry, that's grand another research. See lots of

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Speaker 1: people every day tell me I'm wonderful. It doesn't necessarily

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Speaker 1: mean it's true. Oh look as nice as.

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Speaker 2: The opposite as well. But when you when when the

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Speaker 2: messages are coming in threat one over the over, the

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Speaker 2: get lost, you have to sit back and you have

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Speaker 1: That, well do you Because I'm.

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Speaker 2: Always going to take I'm also always going to take

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Speaker 2: my cues from the environment. I'm going to go out

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Speaker 2: there and see what's going on. Just tune and that

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Speaker 2: is that is the MARII and me, and that's who

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Speaker 2: I listened to for much of the time.

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Speaker 1: Okay, but that's what we call.

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Speaker 2: It needs to be done, and the Greens drop the

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Speaker 2: ball on the.

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Speaker 1: I'll give you that part. I'll give you that part.

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Speaker 1: Hope to obsessed about Philestine and they need to be

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Speaker 1: obsessed about the environment.

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Speaker 2: But that connect it. It's all connect this. But somebody's

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Speaker 2: got to do that work, Mike fair enough to and

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Speaker 2: so it'll be so much easier for me to go

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Speaker 2: off the slope off and just think under the water.

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Speaker 2: But I'm I need to be in that place to move.

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Speaker 1: But but you're not allowed to be in because let

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Speaker 1: me just come back and I'm allowed.

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Speaker 2: I'm absolutely allowed to speak.

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Speaker 1: Is this how it works?

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Speaker 2: Like, how do you mean?

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Speaker 1: Well, the reason is that messages don't get you elected.

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Speaker 1: Votes get you elected. You weren't elected, and that's the problem.

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Speaker 1: So having messages to say I've got a lot of

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Speaker 1: people ringing me saying what a cool person I am,

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Speaker 1: please stay is not the democratic process we operate in

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Speaker 1: this country. Therefore you you don't have a mandate. Therefore

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Speaker 1: we shouldn't be in the parliament.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I'm not going down at reductionist route at all.

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Speaker 2: I'm looking. I'm looking really at the coopap. I was elected.

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Speaker 2: People elected most of the Green Party MPs on the

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Speaker 2: basis of the policies and the values of their party.

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Speaker 2: And I still hold very much to those values and

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Speaker 2: to those policies. Okay, what are you doing here, I'm

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Speaker 2: doing the same thing. I'm voting in the same direction

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Speaker 2: as the guys. I'm talking on the issues that I

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Speaker 2: went into Parliament on.

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Speaker 1: What do you reckon they're going to do now, the

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Speaker 1: Green Party? Will they enact the walker jumping legislation? What's

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Speaker 1: your hunch?

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Speaker 2: You know? My hunch is just to leave it for

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Speaker 2: them at the board?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, But what do you reckon? You know that,

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Speaker 1: what do you reckon?

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Speaker 2: They'll they have not been the one in the control

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Speaker 2: of the sole process.

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Speaker 1: I think. But what do you think? You know them?

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Speaker 1: What do you reckon they'll do? Do you reckon They'll blink?

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Speaker 1: Or do you reckon They'll try and get you out

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Speaker 1: of there?

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Speaker 2: I reckon they're thinking about it.

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Speaker 1: Well, I know that, But but do you do if

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Speaker 1: I let's have a bet, do you deliver a dollar

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Speaker 1: dollar bet? I'll get a ten dollar bet to the

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Speaker 1: environmental cause of your choice? Do you think they will

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Speaker 1: try and enact the walker.

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Speaker 2: Jumping only ten dollars.

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Speaker 1: Dollars to the environmental.

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Speaker 2: Look, I've got to be straight up with you. I

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Speaker 2: probably don't even have ten dollars to run together. But

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Speaker 2: it's a matter of principle and I've taken a principal

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Speaker 2: decision to stand inside when I saw the party values

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Speaker 2: flown out the window and how I was handled, and

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Speaker 2: and and everything. I just said, Okay, I've been nuts

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Speaker 2: as a leader in that party myself to understand how

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Speaker 2: those values should do. So when I don't see it

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Speaker 2: acting out in prison, I'm going to take that principal

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Speaker 2: decision and to the side the agage from their own

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Speaker 2: values and principles as they will.

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Speaker 1: But your sense of it, Darling, is what do you

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Speaker 1: think they will do? Do you think they'll pull the

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Speaker 1: trigger or do you think you actually will win? They

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Speaker 1: will blink and nothing will happen.

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Speaker 2: We'll see. I'm serious. I'm sorry, Mike.

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Speaker 1: I don't apologize.

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Speaker 2: I'm serious. It's about Mama and Tapoo for me, non negostbles.

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Speaker 2: It's up to them. They'll decide what's right for them. Okay,

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Speaker 2: sorry for me for my final and we're moving ahead.

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