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Speaker 1: You're listening to The Resident Builder podcast with Peter wolf

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Speaker 1: Camp from News Talks at B helping you finish that

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Speaker 1: five minute fixed you started The Resident Builder with Peter

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Speaker 1: wolf Camp and Independent Building Supplies the future of Kiwi

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Speaker 1: building today Call oh eight hundred and eighty to eighty.

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Speaker 1: News Talk said b.

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Speaker 2: A house sizzle even when it's dug, even when the

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Speaker 2: is too old to bar, and when.

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Speaker 3: You're sitting at the table trying not to starve sissor home,

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Speaker 3: even when we are benn even when you're there.

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Speaker 2: You know, houses a long, even.

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Speaker 4: When there's ghost even when you go around funnel you

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Speaker 2: Screams, broken pans appeing in funnel.

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Speaker 4: Locals west when they're gone leaving these.

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Speaker 1: Even when we'll run, even when you're.

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Speaker 3: And a very very good morning to you. Welcome along

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Speaker 3: to the Resident Builder on Sunday. You're with me Peek

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Speaker 3: wolf Camp at News Talk CEB on The Resident Builder.

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Speaker 3: And this is a show all about building. It's all

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Speaker 3: about construction. It's all about the rules and the regulation,

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Speaker 3: it's all about the products. It's maybe all about the

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Speaker 3: people that actually do the work. Now, whether that's you

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Speaker 3: or someone that you've contracted to come and do work.

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Speaker 3: We can talk about I guess, quality issues, and contract

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Speaker 3: issues and payment issues as well. We can talk about

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Speaker 3: the practical, the which bit goes with which bit and

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Speaker 3: in which order, So selecting the right materials and then

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Speaker 3: undertaking the task in the correct manner. You know, there's

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Speaker 3: that you've got that order sort of lined up alongside

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Speaker 3: people that investigate failures, it's a sort of well, actually

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Speaker 3: I guess the interesting part to building is that it's

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Speaker 3: I'd be interested to talk with you about all of

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Speaker 3: those sorts of things on the program this morning right

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Speaker 3: through till just trying to think now we've got no

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Speaker 3: chat with Mike Oltz from Razine Construction, and typically we

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Speaker 3: Coat celebrates forty years in business and that's worth celebrating

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Speaker 3: in New zealand certainly worth celebrating when and I don't

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Speaker 3: there was no loss of life. Eight hundred eighty ten eighty,

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Speaker 3: all things building in construction. Looking forward to chatting with

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Speaker 3: So at twelve minutes after six, let's get amongst it.

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Speaker 3: Eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

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Speaker 3: And Noel A very good morning to you.

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Speaker 6: Good morning Pete. How are you mate?

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Speaker 3: Very well? Thank you?

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Speaker 6: Good good good. Oh man, that's got a Christian look.

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Speaker 6: I'm putting my fire out. Oh I want to put

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Speaker 6: I don't think we need it now. I mean they

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Speaker 6: that I had to change the roofing iron, the whole sheet.

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Speaker 3: I mean, look at it. If you don't, sorry, it's

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Speaker 3: could you could take the fire box out, You could

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Speaker 6: the flue the water when it gets a good easterly Yes,

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Speaker 3: So it's like a yes, but do you know because

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Speaker 3: Inside the fruit that's right, it'll be a double lined yep.

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Speaker 3: care because of course Noel as a homeowner, he can

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Speaker 3: Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

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Speaker 3: the text machine, but give us a call. Now's a

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Speaker 3: great time on This will be the last Sunday before

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Speaker 3: we jump out of daylight saving back into regular time

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Speaker 3: bit odd moving out of daylight saving on Easter. Why

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Speaker 3: it should be odd, but it just feels like it's

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Speaker 3: not really the day that you do it. But anyway,

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Speaker 3: I don't think so. I think it's a little bit later,

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Speaker 3: and it is. It's next Sunday. Don't worry I'll be

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Speaker 3: here next Sunday as well. I'll tell you all about

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Speaker 3: it then, oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty back in

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Speaker 1: Where DIY gets unstuck cool Oh eight hundred eighteen ten eighty.

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Speaker 1: The resident builder with Peter Worlfcamp and Independent Building supplies

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Speaker 1: the future of Kiwi Building Today News talks.

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Speaker 3: There'd be right, he Oh it is six twenty one.

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Speaker 3: If I say that slowly enough, the little the big

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Speaker 3: schools because kids can't read the time. So I know Locke,

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Speaker 3: who was a young person, is disgusted by his peers.

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Speaker 3: But anyway, I say that only because we've well, we've

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Speaker 3: that for many, many years had a simple battery operated

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Speaker 3: But anyway, I would hop up onto a chair, take

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Speaker 5: Yes, good morning presents. We've got a thirty year old

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Speaker 5: Okay, just using your hose rather than a water blast.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, no, stay away from I mean, you know

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Speaker 5: Yeah, gotcha.

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Speaker 3: Good luck all mate, all the best, Take care and John,

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Speaker 9: Good morning feet. I've got a window.

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Speaker 10: I'm fixing up a window for a friend of mine, Cedar,

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Speaker 3: And not the window frame.

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't use the builder's bog as an adhesive, because

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Speaker 3: Is the winter? Have you been able to do this

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Speaker 10: Yeah, no, the glass is fine. There's probably about a

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Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, I'll have to dig it out. Just stay

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Speaker 3: take care of all the best, Bobby. Just with the

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Speaker 3: of screws do I need? Prefer something I can whack

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Speaker 3: And in fact, yeah, using an impact driver, you can

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Speaker 3: And so it won't bite because, I mean, the steel

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Speaker 1: Measure twice call once on eighty eight. The resident builder

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Speaker 3: News talks be your news talks, there'd be. It is

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Speaker 11: I've got a water leak problem around the area of

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Speaker 11: got a drainage channel there that's been there since the

431
00:26:11,855 --> 00:26:13,895
Speaker 11: second one. That seems to be working, so I don't

432
00:26:13,895 --> 00:26:18,695
Speaker 11: think the water's coming in there. But when it rained again,

433
00:26:18,775 --> 00:26:22,655
Speaker 11: there's still a bit more water coming in. So he

434
00:26:22,815 --> 00:26:25,255
Speaker 11: was going to come back and maybe put the hose

435
00:26:25,375 --> 00:26:28,615
Speaker 11: or hasn't turned up. So I did that myself, but

436
00:26:28,655 --> 00:26:30,815
Speaker 11: I could still see a little bit of water coming in,

437
00:26:30,935 --> 00:26:34,135
Speaker 11: so just reluctant to close it up. Have you at

438
00:26:34,175 --> 00:26:38,455
Speaker 11: the moment with the problem still there. I think it

439
00:26:38,535 --> 00:26:42,575
Speaker 11: was a garage initially, so it's been the odd comment

440
00:26:42,655 --> 00:26:49,695
Speaker 11: that it's a bit low to the tiles outside.

441
00:26:47,855 --> 00:26:52,295
Speaker 3: Will make difference. So a couple of quick questions. The

442
00:26:52,415 --> 00:26:58,455
Speaker 3: doors are timber or aluminium timber? Timber, okay? And they

443
00:26:58,535 --> 00:27:01,935
Speaker 3: were sort of retro fitted into the space. If it

444
00:27:02,055 --> 00:27:04,335
Speaker 3: was originally something else, it might have been a garage

445
00:27:04,375 --> 00:27:09,015
Speaker 3: door and now it's a timber No, I.

446
00:27:08,975 --> 00:27:10,015
Speaker 12: Don't think the garage door.

447
00:27:14,295 --> 00:27:17,815
Speaker 3: And then the cladding around the doors is what sort

448
00:27:17,855 --> 00:27:18,295
Speaker 3: of cladding?

449
00:27:20,895 --> 00:27:21,615
Speaker 12: What do you mean by that?

450
00:27:22,415 --> 00:27:28,135
Speaker 3: What's the exterior of the building or rough casts? So

451
00:27:28,415 --> 00:27:34,215
Speaker 3: a plaster system of some description over timber or over.

452
00:27:36,335 --> 00:27:39,495
Speaker 12: Over I don't know he did replaster around.

453
00:27:39,775 --> 00:27:41,535
Speaker 3: If you've been able to cut the GiB bought out

454
00:27:41,615 --> 00:27:44,975
Speaker 3: from the inside, that's a timber frame that you're seeing,

455
00:27:45,055 --> 00:27:49,855
Speaker 3: isn't it. Yes, yeah, okay, so it's timber stud wall

456
00:27:49,935 --> 00:27:55,135
Speaker 3: and then render on the outside. When when they installed

457
00:27:55,255 --> 00:27:59,375
Speaker 3: the window, you weren't there. But I just wonder whether

458
00:27:59,455 --> 00:28:02,735
Speaker 3: when they installed the window, did they remove some of

459
00:28:02,775 --> 00:28:06,135
Speaker 3: the plaster around it in order to get some flashings

460
00:28:06,135 --> 00:28:10,095
Speaker 3: and there, and then bring the plaster up to the

461
00:28:10,175 --> 00:28:14,015
Speaker 3: side of the joinery because again, you know, if, for example,

462
00:28:14,095 --> 00:28:19,295
Speaker 3: it's a retrofit situation where the wall is there, then

463
00:28:19,415 --> 00:28:21,535
Speaker 3: a hole is cut in the wall, then the joinery

464
00:28:21,615 --> 00:28:26,495
Speaker 3: is inserted. Sometimes people don't, you know, take the plaster

465
00:28:26,575 --> 00:28:30,495
Speaker 3: off around it and create a flashing around it. I

466
00:28:30,535 --> 00:28:34,295
Speaker 3: guess the other thing is is your cladding, your plaster

467
00:28:34,375 --> 00:28:38,455
Speaker 3: cladding direct fixed to the timber frame or is there

468
00:28:38,495 --> 00:28:41,855
Speaker 3: a cavity batton is there a gap between them?

469
00:28:42,375 --> 00:28:43,255
Speaker 12: Really don't know.

470
00:28:43,495 --> 00:28:45,295
Speaker 11: I know when they put the door frame, and I

471
00:28:45,335 --> 00:28:47,135
Speaker 11: did see the guy do the plastering, but.

472
00:28:49,735 --> 00:28:50,815
Speaker 12: Look, I really can't.

473
00:28:53,855 --> 00:28:56,535
Speaker 3: Without wanting to sound smoke. This is this Funnily enough,

474
00:28:56,535 --> 00:29:00,215
Speaker 3: when I started the show today, I was describing situations

475
00:29:00,375 --> 00:29:03,495
Speaker 3: I guess in construction where it's never just one task,

476
00:29:03,615 --> 00:29:06,255
Speaker 3: it's a series of tasks done in a particular order

477
00:29:06,855 --> 00:29:09,575
Speaker 3: to create a really good outcome. So if we think

478
00:29:09,615 --> 00:29:12,895
Speaker 3: about something relatively simple like installing a set of French

479
00:29:12,935 --> 00:29:17,135
Speaker 3: doors into an existing opening, you know, in your case

480
00:29:17,175 --> 00:29:21,175
Speaker 3: you'd be talking about having a sill flashing put in

481
00:29:21,255 --> 00:29:24,695
Speaker 3: that's got a fall to the outside. So that within

482
00:29:24,775 --> 00:29:28,535
Speaker 3: timber joinery, there's like a little groove in the jam

483
00:29:28,695 --> 00:29:30,855
Speaker 3: and in the sash, and at the bottom where it

484
00:29:30,895 --> 00:29:34,255
Speaker 3: meets the sill, typically there's little hole, little OUs water

485
00:29:34,375 --> 00:29:37,775
Speaker 3: to drain through, hit that flashing on the underside of

486
00:29:37,775 --> 00:29:42,655
Speaker 3: the sill and drain out. Now, if that's not there,

487
00:29:42,855 --> 00:29:45,615
Speaker 3: then any water that's caught between the frame and the

488
00:29:45,695 --> 00:29:48,815
Speaker 3: sash has got nowhere to go, and so it's finding

489
00:29:48,815 --> 00:29:51,615
Speaker 3: another way either in or out. And if it can't

490
00:29:51,615 --> 00:29:53,895
Speaker 3: find a way out, it'll find a way in. And

491
00:29:53,935 --> 00:29:58,335
Speaker 3: that's what you might be seeing. So you know, again

492
00:29:58,375 --> 00:30:01,895
Speaker 3: it's that process of you create the opening, you need

493
00:30:01,935 --> 00:30:04,695
Speaker 3: to flash the opening, you need to install the sill

494
00:30:04,735 --> 00:30:07,815
Speaker 3: tray or the sill flashing, you need to install the joinery,

495
00:30:07,895 --> 00:30:10,735
Speaker 3: you need to install the head flashing, you need to

496
00:30:10,775 --> 00:30:14,255
Speaker 3: make sure that there's a drainage pathway that's in the joinery.

497
00:30:15,535 --> 00:30:19,375
Speaker 3: And then really interesting too, at the bottom there if

498
00:30:19,415 --> 00:30:22,415
Speaker 3: the door is too close to the sill, it won't

499
00:30:22,455 --> 00:30:27,855
Speaker 3: allow water to drain out, So you need at least

500
00:30:27,855 --> 00:30:33,055
Speaker 3: a four milimeter gap at the bottom, because otherwise water

501
00:30:33,095 --> 00:30:35,495
Speaker 3: will just sit there and be held there by surface

502
00:30:35,575 --> 00:30:44,615
Speaker 3: tension in there. So sometimes and you know, I'm still

503
00:30:44,655 --> 00:30:47,095
Speaker 3: tracking a leak on in a job that's not dissimilar

504
00:30:47,135 --> 00:30:49,295
Speaker 3: to this, right, But I don't have the luxury of

505
00:30:49,295 --> 00:30:55,415
Speaker 3: being able to pull the inside lining off right because

506
00:30:56,655 --> 00:31:00,055
Speaker 3: like in what you've described, there could be two or

507
00:31:00,095 --> 00:31:04,295
Speaker 3: three potential pathways for that water to get inside.

508
00:31:04,375 --> 00:31:06,535
Speaker 12: Well, I think so too, because the sea.

509
00:31:08,255 --> 00:31:11,815
Speaker 3: Yeah, see, I wonder whether it's part of the issue.

510
00:31:11,895 --> 00:31:15,095
Speaker 3: Might be that Again, if there's not the right type

511
00:31:15,135 --> 00:31:18,335
Speaker 3: of flashing detail around the side of the windows in

512
00:31:18,415 --> 00:31:21,015
Speaker 3: terms of how the cladding comes up to the to

513
00:31:21,095 --> 00:31:24,215
Speaker 3: the joinery unit, you could be getting water in there,

514
00:31:24,215 --> 00:31:26,695
Speaker 3: and that would explain why you've got it on both sides, right.

515
00:31:26,735 --> 00:31:30,655
Speaker 3: If there's lack of detailing on both sides of the joinery,

516
00:31:31,055 --> 00:31:33,735
Speaker 3: then when it rains, it'll come in both sides of

517
00:31:33,735 --> 00:31:42,975
Speaker 3: the joinery. The Now that you've got the lining off

518
00:31:43,015 --> 00:31:46,695
Speaker 3: the inside, and if the builder is able to come back,

519
00:31:46,735 --> 00:31:49,895
Speaker 3: I think the right approach is to use a hose. Yeah,

520
00:31:50,175 --> 00:31:52,495
Speaker 3: use a hose and see if you can make it leak,

521
00:31:52,815 --> 00:31:54,615
Speaker 3: because you'll be able to see it quite quickly on

522
00:31:54,655 --> 00:32:00,415
Speaker 3: the inside hopefully. But I do wonder whether in order

523
00:32:00,455 --> 00:32:03,575
Speaker 3: to fix this properly, you might actually need to take

524
00:32:03,655 --> 00:32:09,335
Speaker 3: the joinery out, reinstall it correctly, because adding like as

525
00:32:09,335 --> 00:32:11,135
Speaker 3: soon as someone says to me, I've just put some

526
00:32:11,175 --> 00:32:18,855
Speaker 3: more sealant around it. Sealant should never be your waterproofing. No,

527
00:32:20,375 --> 00:32:25,055
Speaker 3: your design detail and installation, including all of the flashings

528
00:32:25,335 --> 00:32:28,655
Speaker 3: that should be what keeps your building weather tight. To

529
00:32:28,775 --> 00:32:33,095
Speaker 3: rely solely on sealant I don't think is a great

530
00:32:33,975 --> 00:32:36,015
Speaker 3: I'm not saying sealent doesn't have its place, but it

531
00:32:36,055 --> 00:32:40,335
Speaker 3: shouldn't be your primary line of defense. Your methodology and

532
00:32:40,375 --> 00:32:43,295
Speaker 3: your flashing should be. So if they're not there because

533
00:32:43,295 --> 00:32:45,775
Speaker 3: the person who installed it didn't add them, then you

534
00:32:45,815 --> 00:32:49,735
Speaker 3: may need to take that joinery suite out, do the flashings,

535
00:32:49,775 --> 00:32:51,975
Speaker 3: which might include having to knock a bit of plaster

536
00:32:52,095 --> 00:32:54,375
Speaker 3: off and that sort of thing, to install it correctly

537
00:32:55,135 --> 00:32:57,295
Speaker 3: to ensure that you don't have the problem come back again.

538
00:32:57,615 --> 00:32:59,215
Speaker 3: So maybe you need to talk to the builder, and

539
00:32:59,215 --> 00:33:01,055
Speaker 3: if the builder is a bit unsure about that sort

540
00:33:01,095 --> 00:33:03,175
Speaker 3: of thing to be blunt, you might need to find

541
00:33:03,175 --> 00:33:03,815
Speaker 3: another builder.

542
00:33:05,055 --> 00:33:07,695
Speaker 11: Yes, what I was just say the sort of was

543
00:33:07,735 --> 00:33:11,135
Speaker 11: this extense of repair done so that three years ago, Yes,

544
00:33:11,175 --> 00:33:13,655
Speaker 11: a coss meet round about seven thousand dollars. So I'm

545
00:33:13,695 --> 00:33:16,255
Speaker 11: just wondering where do I stand now with them coming

546
00:33:16,295 --> 00:33:19,095
Speaker 11: back to do this, Do I am I up for

547
00:33:19,135 --> 00:33:19,415
Speaker 11: all this?

548
00:33:19,775 --> 00:33:25,055
Speaker 12: Yeah, failure? Or is it maybe to just design there

549
00:33:25,095 --> 00:33:27,255
Speaker 12: a bit low? I just don't want to.

550
00:33:28,455 --> 00:33:30,295
Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess it's a bit awkward.

551
00:33:30,375 --> 00:33:31,175
Speaker 12: I'm just not sure.

552
00:33:31,255 --> 00:33:34,615
Speaker 3: No, I hear what you're saying, because you know that's

553
00:33:34,655 --> 00:33:36,935
Speaker 3: not a It's not like you paid someone to just

554
00:33:36,975 --> 00:33:39,455
Speaker 3: squirt some sealing around the place, right. You know, seven

555
00:33:39,495 --> 00:33:43,655
Speaker 3: thousand dollars is a reasonable amount of money to spend,

556
00:33:44,055 --> 00:33:47,055
Speaker 3: and it's not unreasonable for you to expect that the

557
00:33:47,175 --> 00:33:51,135
Speaker 3: repair then should have been a permanent repair done to

558
00:33:51,175 --> 00:33:54,455
Speaker 3: a similar standards as new building work, or or an

559
00:33:54,495 --> 00:33:58,415
Speaker 3: alteration and renovation. And therefore if it's failed, I mean,

560
00:33:58,455 --> 00:34:00,695
Speaker 3: it didn't fail straight away, so it must have been

561
00:34:00,775 --> 00:34:03,815
Speaker 3: half way decent repair, but it hasn't lasted as long

562
00:34:03,855 --> 00:34:05,655
Speaker 3: as you would like it to last, right.

563
00:34:05,615 --> 00:34:06,135
Speaker 12: That's right.

564
00:34:09,055 --> 00:34:12,735
Speaker 3: Possibly it's a leak from another source, so what they

565
00:34:12,775 --> 00:34:15,015
Speaker 3: did fixed one leak, but you've got another one, in

566
00:34:15,015 --> 00:34:18,455
Speaker 3: which case it's not related to the first repair. I

567
00:34:18,495 --> 00:34:20,655
Speaker 3: think that's just going to be a discussion with your builder.

568
00:34:20,735 --> 00:34:23,255
Speaker 3: And I mean, look, the fact that someone who was

569
00:34:23,375 --> 00:34:25,215
Speaker 3: who did the work seven years ago, is prepared to

570
00:34:25,255 --> 00:34:27,255
Speaker 3: come back and look at it again. That would say

571
00:34:27,255 --> 00:34:30,175
Speaker 3: to me that they've got reasonable confidence that they'll come

572
00:34:30,215 --> 00:34:30,855
Speaker 3: and help you out.

573
00:34:30,855 --> 00:34:32,535
Speaker 5: But I'm just yeah, they.

574
00:34:32,415 --> 00:34:34,935
Speaker 12: Will come back to me. I haven't just wondered what

575
00:34:35,215 --> 00:34:35,415
Speaker 12: you know?

576
00:34:37,255 --> 00:34:40,295
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I think you've got to take a sort

577
00:34:40,295 --> 00:34:42,615
Speaker 3: of big view of it and go that it could

578
00:34:42,695 --> 00:34:47,175
Speaker 3: be from an area that we haven't investigated before. Okay, yeah, okay,

579
00:34:47,375 --> 00:34:52,895
Speaker 3: all the best will that take care. They are complex, right,

580
00:34:53,015 --> 00:34:57,455
Speaker 3: and sometimes we look for simple answers and then realize

581
00:34:57,455 --> 00:35:01,495
Speaker 3: that building is actually complex and they're not always simple answers.

582
00:35:01,895 --> 00:35:04,095
Speaker 3: I hope that works out well. We'll talk to Chris

583
00:35:04,135 --> 00:35:06,935
Speaker 3: in a moment. Eight hundred and eighty ten eighty couple

584
00:35:06,935 --> 00:35:13,535
Speaker 3: of Sorry, Pete. I wasn't trying to school you, and

585
00:35:13,575 --> 00:35:15,695
Speaker 3: I'm not suggesting that you were, and I'm not offended

586
00:35:15,695 --> 00:35:17,615
Speaker 3: by it, but thank you very much for pointing it

587
00:35:17,655 --> 00:35:21,175
Speaker 3: out like you. I can't remember it happening on Aneasta before,

588
00:35:21,215 --> 00:35:25,015
Speaker 3: so I googled it. Apparently twenty eighteen and twenty twenty one,

589
00:35:25,935 --> 00:35:27,935
Speaker 3: which isn't that long ago. I should have remembered that.

590
00:35:27,975 --> 00:35:29,935
Speaker 3: But anyway, there you go. Thank you very much, Jason.

591
00:35:29,975 --> 00:35:33,015
Speaker 3: I really appreciate the insights. It is six forty seven.

592
00:35:33,055 --> 00:35:34,935
Speaker 3: We need to take a break. Then we'll talk to

593
00:35:34,415 --> 00:35:36,615
Speaker 3: to Chris after the break.

594
00:35:37,055 --> 00:35:39,455
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595
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596
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597
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598
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Speaker 3: There be a couple of other texts I'll try to

599
00:35:52,855 --> 00:35:55,495
Speaker 3: get to shortly, but first up Chris.

600
00:35:55,255 --> 00:35:57,535
Speaker 13: Good morning, Good mind, Pete.

601
00:35:57,575 --> 00:35:59,415
Speaker 3: How are you Chris very well in yourself?

602
00:36:00,415 --> 00:36:01,935
Speaker 7: Yeah, not too bad, not too bid.

603
00:36:02,135 --> 00:36:03,055
Speaker 13: No beautiful day and.

604
00:36:03,095 --> 00:36:06,215
Speaker 3: Paradise not foggy where you are then?

605
00:36:07,415 --> 00:36:09,975
Speaker 13: No, no crystal clear, it's not a cloud in the

606
00:36:09,975 --> 00:36:11,975
Speaker 13: sky where there is a couple of mountain the sky

607
00:36:12,015 --> 00:36:13,055
Speaker 13: over it's going to.

608
00:36:13,055 --> 00:36:13,895
Speaker 8: Be a beautiful day.

609
00:36:14,015 --> 00:36:14,375
Speaker 3: Awesome.

610
00:36:14,495 --> 00:36:14,695
Speaker 6: Hey.

611
00:36:15,695 --> 00:36:19,495
Speaker 13: We have got a bit of a rural section and

612
00:36:19,895 --> 00:36:27,295
Speaker 13: we've purchased a six point four meter transportable cabin, just

613
00:36:28,015 --> 00:36:32,295
Speaker 13: a simple design, single pitch based in the room with

614
00:36:32,335 --> 00:36:35,255
Speaker 13: a small room offe side, no plumbing, no nothing I

615
00:36:35,255 --> 00:36:40,095
Speaker 13: added it. Now we need to get it piled. And

616
00:36:41,095 --> 00:36:43,695
Speaker 13: I've had one quote and the guy was saying he

617
00:36:43,815 --> 00:36:47,935
Speaker 13: needed to put in twenty five piles at up to

618
00:36:47,975 --> 00:36:51,255
Speaker 13: seven thousand dollars, and I'm thinking that sounds a little

619
00:36:51,255 --> 00:36:54,415
Speaker 13: bit overkilling, a little bit too pricey for a very

620
00:36:54,415 --> 00:36:56,935
Speaker 13: simple six point four square box cabin.

621
00:36:57,415 --> 00:37:00,215
Speaker 3: Hang on, it's six by four and he wants to

622
00:37:00,215 --> 00:37:06,815
Speaker 3: put in twenty five piles. Yes, he does realize it's piles.

623
00:37:06,815 --> 00:37:08,135
Speaker 3: It's not like a solid floor.

624
00:37:09,655 --> 00:37:09,895
Speaker 14: Yep.

625
00:37:10,095 --> 00:37:16,335
Speaker 3: Yeah, So depending on the design of the cabin, I

626
00:37:16,375 --> 00:37:20,735
Speaker 3: would imagine that it would have Well, it's possible it's

627
00:37:20,775 --> 00:37:23,335
Speaker 3: just got two rows. What's what they've allowed for is

628
00:37:23,375 --> 00:37:25,655
Speaker 3: two rows of bearers, right, so there might be a

629
00:37:25,695 --> 00:37:29,375
Speaker 3: small cantilever, and then the span of the joyst could

630
00:37:29,415 --> 00:37:32,295
Speaker 3: easily be three and a half. No, let's let's say

631
00:37:32,375 --> 00:37:35,815
Speaker 3: let's be conservative and go there's going to be or

632
00:37:35,895 --> 00:37:40,295
Speaker 3: you're going to require three rows of bearers. And so

633
00:37:40,375 --> 00:37:43,615
Speaker 3: you've got three rows straw from myself now, and then

634
00:37:43,615 --> 00:37:46,375
Speaker 3: you've got zero to six. So you've got a pile

635
00:37:46,415 --> 00:37:49,015
Speaker 3: in each corner. So you got one at six, you've

636
00:37:49,015 --> 00:37:51,415
Speaker 3: got one at four meters, one at two meters, so

637
00:37:51,455 --> 00:37:53,455
Speaker 3: that's four down each side. Twelve.

638
00:37:55,215 --> 00:37:55,415
Speaker 8: Yeah.

639
00:37:55,855 --> 00:37:59,735
Speaker 13: To give you an idea of the sign, it's sitting

640
00:37:59,735 --> 00:38:05,495
Speaker 13: on a property. Or reading, and it's sitting it's got

641
00:38:05,695 --> 00:38:09,495
Speaker 13: one two, it's got five rows of what looked like

642
00:38:09,495 --> 00:38:13,695
Speaker 13: one hundred one hundreds that run the whole six men

643
00:38:13,855 --> 00:38:19,055
Speaker 13: left underneath and they sit on the piles and at

644
00:38:19,055 --> 00:38:22,135
Speaker 13: the moment it's got four rows.

645
00:38:21,815 --> 00:38:26,655
Speaker 3: Of four four rows. Okay, that's oh well, even then

646
00:38:26,695 --> 00:38:29,695
Speaker 3: it's sixteen, right, so.

647
00:38:29,775 --> 00:38:31,855
Speaker 13: It was quite overkilled.

648
00:38:33,175 --> 00:38:39,495
Speaker 3: Yeah, just the heads up, don't use hundred by hundreds

649
00:38:39,495 --> 00:38:42,655
Speaker 3: because they're not compliant, right, so that if you're going

650
00:38:42,655 --> 00:38:46,015
Speaker 3: to do timber piles, then you would need to use

651
00:38:46,015 --> 00:38:47,975
Speaker 3: one hundred and twenty five B one hundred and twenty five,

652
00:38:47,975 --> 00:38:52,415
Speaker 3: which is sent in piles or tenor piles. Your other option,

653
00:38:52,655 --> 00:38:54,215
Speaker 3: I don't know if you've looked at it, is to

654
00:38:54,335 --> 00:38:55,415
Speaker 3: use screw piles.

655
00:38:57,495 --> 00:38:57,735
Speaker 5: Yeah.

656
00:38:57,855 --> 00:39:00,735
Speaker 13: I've actually looked into that. I'm just waiting to head

657
00:39:00,775 --> 00:39:01,815
Speaker 13: back from the company.

658
00:39:02,055 --> 00:39:04,975
Speaker 3: Yeah cool, but yeah, the.

659
00:39:04,935 --> 00:39:08,415
Speaker 13: One hundred by hundreds are actually running along the underneath

660
00:39:08,415 --> 00:39:11,735
Speaker 13: of the building almost like if you.

661
00:39:11,695 --> 00:39:16,015
Speaker 3: Imagine, oh, oh okay.

662
00:39:16,655 --> 00:39:23,135
Speaker 13: But are attached and they are those machines one hundred

663
00:39:23,175 --> 00:39:25,015
Speaker 13: one hundred posts sort.

664
00:39:24,775 --> 00:39:30,535
Speaker 3: Of someone's basically made a slid, so they've put some

665
00:39:30,615 --> 00:39:33,175
Speaker 3: timber on the ground and then just propped up off there.

666
00:39:33,215 --> 00:39:34,055
Speaker 3: But that's.

667
00:39:35,495 --> 00:39:40,895
Speaker 15: I mean, those hundred one hundreds are attached to the floor, yes,

668
00:39:40,935 --> 00:39:44,415
Speaker 15: and they sit and they sit on top of the

669
00:39:44,455 --> 00:39:47,455
Speaker 15: four hundred MILLI piles that are at there at the moment.

670
00:39:47,895 --> 00:39:53,575
Speaker 3: Right, Okay, sounds a bit hokey, but either way, Look,

671
00:39:53,855 --> 00:39:56,055
Speaker 3: I think that you'd want to go back to the

672
00:39:56,055 --> 00:39:59,575
Speaker 3: guy who's gone twenty five piles and just go show

673
00:39:59,615 --> 00:40:01,775
Speaker 3: me what that looks like. And why do you think

674
00:40:01,815 --> 00:40:04,655
Speaker 3: I need that many? And if they look if there's

675
00:40:04,695 --> 00:40:08,015
Speaker 3: something where let's say the jo chists are undersized and

676
00:40:08,175 --> 00:40:12,295
Speaker 3: the span of the joysts or the span of the

677
00:40:12,335 --> 00:40:15,735
Speaker 3: bearers means that there's insufficient support and that you're adding

678
00:40:15,775 --> 00:40:20,215
Speaker 3: more piles because there's insufficient support and strength in the

679
00:40:20,455 --> 00:40:24,855
Speaker 3: joists or in the existing bearers, then maybe there's a logical,

680
00:40:24,975 --> 00:40:27,495
Speaker 3: rational explanation. But I would have thought that if the

681
00:40:27,575 --> 00:40:29,895
Speaker 3: joys were of a reasonable size, so even at a

682
00:40:29,935 --> 00:40:33,015
Speaker 3: four meter span, if they were a six er two

683
00:40:33,095 --> 00:40:37,455
Speaker 3: so one forty or one fifty by forty five joyst,

684
00:40:37,535 --> 00:40:41,575
Speaker 3: you would get at least a one point almost two

685
00:40:41,615 --> 00:40:44,095
Speaker 3: meter span out of those. Typically it's two point two meters,

686
00:40:45,815 --> 00:40:47,815
Speaker 3: in which case you got three rows of bearers and

687
00:40:47,815 --> 00:40:50,095
Speaker 3: if you put your piles at two meter centers, so

688
00:40:50,135 --> 00:40:52,655
Speaker 3: one at two, that sort of thing you'd get there.

689
00:40:52,735 --> 00:40:54,695
Speaker 3: So I think it's just a question going back to

690
00:40:54,735 --> 00:40:58,255
Speaker 3: the contract and going why twenty five. I think it

691
00:40:58,295 --> 00:41:00,815
Speaker 3: could be less and have a look at screw piles.

692
00:41:00,855 --> 00:41:04,215
Speaker 3: There's also a driven pile called wild War that might

693
00:41:04,255 --> 00:41:06,295
Speaker 3: be worth looking at. All the best of you, Chris.

694
00:41:06,295 --> 00:41:12,135
Speaker 3: We will come back about fireplaces and clating and fixing

695
00:41:12,175 --> 00:41:15,455
Speaker 3: your TV brackets seems to have generated a bit of

696
00:41:15,455 --> 00:41:17,215
Speaker 3: interest on the text machine, so we'll come back with

697
00:41:17,255 --> 00:41:19,695
Speaker 3: that after New Sport and we're the top there are

698
00:41:19,735 --> 00:41:20,495
Speaker 3: at seven back the.

699
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Speaker 1: Month, turning O's into She'll be right The Resident Builder

700
00:41:36,255 --> 00:41:40,215
Speaker 1: with Peter Wolfcamp and Independent Building Supplies a future of

701
00:41:40,295 --> 00:41:45,495
Speaker 1: Kiwi Building Today. Call eight hundred eighty ten eighty News talksb.

702
00:41:45,855 --> 00:41:47,935
Speaker 3: Well, very good morning, welcome back to the program. Oh

703
00:41:47,975 --> 00:41:50,575
Speaker 3: eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call

704
00:41:50,895 --> 00:41:53,455
Speaker 3: for the Resident Builder on Sunday. That's me peek Off

705
00:41:53,495 --> 00:41:56,295
Speaker 3: Camp with you right through till eight o'clock or nine o'clock.

706
00:41:56,335 --> 00:41:58,455
Speaker 3: Let's go through in nine. We used to go through

707
00:41:58,495 --> 00:42:00,775
Speaker 3: to eight o'clock. You know, back in the day, see

708
00:42:00,815 --> 00:42:05,735
Speaker 3: even lock. My producers slightly removed by this. Yes, when

709
00:42:05,735 --> 00:42:08,975
Speaker 3: I first started doing the show, which actually is coming

710
00:42:09,055 --> 00:42:13,215
Speaker 3: up quite a while ago, now, we used to go

711
00:42:13,255 --> 00:42:15,735
Speaker 3: through eight. We did six to eight, and then of

712
00:42:15,735 --> 00:42:19,135
Speaker 3: course along came that whole COVID thing, and there used

713
00:42:19,175 --> 00:42:21,775
Speaker 3: to be a sports program. It's pretty tough doing a

714
00:42:21,815 --> 00:42:25,095
Speaker 3: sports program when you can't play any sports. So it

715
00:42:25,215 --> 00:42:27,455
Speaker 3: was a call from the boss. He went, look, just

716
00:42:27,615 --> 00:42:30,175
Speaker 3: could you help us out sort of and go through

717
00:42:30,175 --> 00:42:32,655
Speaker 3: it all nine. I was okay, and we've never gone back,

718
00:42:32,775 --> 00:42:34,775
Speaker 3: Thank you very much. Oh eight hundred and eighty, ten

719
00:42:34,895 --> 00:42:37,895
Speaker 3: eighty is that number to call? Seven past seven. So

720
00:42:38,015 --> 00:42:40,135
Speaker 3: on the program this morning, we talked about fireplace, we

721
00:42:40,215 --> 00:42:42,975
Speaker 3: talked about bricks. We've talked about rotten window frames, we

722
00:42:43,095 --> 00:42:47,335
Speaker 3: talked about joinery that leaks, and we talked about tiny homes.

723
00:42:48,135 --> 00:42:51,855
Speaker 3: So Chris, who's buying a six by four meter cabin,

724
00:42:53,015 --> 00:42:55,255
Speaker 3: and the person who's looking at doing the piling has

725
00:42:55,255 --> 00:42:59,135
Speaker 3: suggested that he needs twenty five piles. I'm thinking he

726
00:42:59,175 --> 00:43:03,775
Speaker 3: probably needs possibly twelve, maybe sixteen, but I'm struggling to

727
00:43:03,775 --> 00:43:06,575
Speaker 3: get to the twenty five unless, of course, the the

728
00:43:06,735 --> 00:43:09,855
Speaker 3: structure in the way that the floor has been built

729
00:43:10,135 --> 00:43:15,335
Speaker 3: is essentially underspect and relies on those piles to support it.

730
00:43:15,375 --> 00:43:19,535
Speaker 3: So either way there may well be an explanation. And

731
00:43:19,615 --> 00:43:22,535
Speaker 3: if the contractor is suitably experienced and they've looked at

732
00:43:22,575 --> 00:43:24,775
Speaker 3: it and said you need twenty five, or you listen

733
00:43:24,815 --> 00:43:27,535
Speaker 3: to that it is slowly odd that it's an odd

734
00:43:27,695 --> 00:43:32,255
Speaker 3: number on it. Five by five seems like an awful

735
00:43:32,255 --> 00:43:35,895
Speaker 3: lot of piles. Either way, we can talk about all

736
00:43:35,935 --> 00:43:41,055
Speaker 3: of your issues, whether they are cladding, whether they are foundational,

737
00:43:41,095 --> 00:43:44,175
Speaker 3: whether they are related to contractors and repairs. We can

738
00:43:44,215 --> 00:43:47,135
Speaker 3: talk about that on the program. Speaking about cladding, Actually

739
00:43:47,135 --> 00:43:49,895
Speaker 3: there was this great text a little while ago. Morning Pete.

740
00:43:49,895 --> 00:43:53,175
Speaker 3: We're keen on purchasing a property. The exterior cladding is

741
00:43:53,175 --> 00:43:57,535
Speaker 3: a treatment called now, my apologies for the pronunciation. I

742
00:43:57,535 --> 00:43:59,775
Speaker 3: should know this because it's a very popular technique, but

743
00:43:59,815 --> 00:44:03,415
Speaker 3: I'm a little unfamiliar with the language show Sugi bah.

744
00:44:03,615 --> 00:44:08,415
Speaker 3: I think it is now design. What it is essentially

745
00:44:08,575 --> 00:44:12,175
Speaker 3: is you take timber and you burn the surface of it.

746
00:44:13,415 --> 00:44:17,055
Speaker 3: So either by having like a special kiln or a

747
00:44:17,055 --> 00:44:20,615
Speaker 3: special fireplace you can do it, or laboriously with a

748
00:44:20,655 --> 00:44:23,455
Speaker 3: gas torch and simply burn the surface of the timber.

749
00:44:23,895 --> 00:44:27,895
Speaker 3: What that does is that it basically closes off the

750
00:44:27,935 --> 00:44:31,975
Speaker 3: capillaries in the timber and effectively acts as a timber preservative.

751
00:44:32,055 --> 00:44:34,535
Speaker 3: But it's natural in the sense that it's just fire.

752
00:44:34,935 --> 00:44:38,335
Speaker 3: So that's sho sugi buh. It's been done by the

753
00:44:38,335 --> 00:44:41,815
Speaker 3: builder on demolition larch and is a vertical weatherboard. The

754
00:44:41,815 --> 00:44:44,495
Speaker 3: house is five years old, it's in a high wind

755
00:44:44,695 --> 00:44:47,135
Speaker 3: coastal zone. The charring does not seem to have worn

756
00:44:47,215 --> 00:44:51,975
Speaker 3: differently in different areas of the house. Have any experience

757
00:44:52,015 --> 00:44:55,055
Speaker 3: with this and what are your views considering New Zealand's climate.

758
00:44:55,215 --> 00:45:00,935
Speaker 3: Thanks from Moira Moira, it's a great question. Given that

759
00:45:00,975 --> 00:45:04,415
Speaker 3: the house is five years old, the builder or the

760
00:45:04,455 --> 00:45:08,615
Speaker 3: supplier of the timber must of provided evidence that the

761
00:45:09,135 --> 00:45:12,935
Speaker 3: cladding would comply with the requirements of does it be

762
00:45:13,135 --> 00:45:16,735
Speaker 3: two of the Building Code in terms of durability, so

763
00:45:16,815 --> 00:45:19,535
Speaker 3: it should have a minimum or it has to have

764
00:45:19,655 --> 00:45:25,615
Speaker 3: a minimum requirement to remain weather tight four fifteen years.

765
00:45:26,535 --> 00:45:30,655
Speaker 3: So I would dig down through the documentation to find

766
00:45:31,935 --> 00:45:34,655
Speaker 3: probably the record of work from the original builder or

767
00:45:34,655 --> 00:45:41,335
Speaker 3: the installer and some evidence from the cladding supplier that

768
00:45:41,455 --> 00:45:43,975
Speaker 3: their product is compliant with the Building code in terms

769
00:45:43,975 --> 00:45:47,735
Speaker 3: of durability, and if you've got that then you should

770
00:45:47,735 --> 00:45:51,895
Speaker 3: be reasonably confident that it will comply. I've never used it,

771
00:45:52,335 --> 00:45:55,255
Speaker 3: I've been intrigued by it. I've seen it used on

772
00:45:55,295 --> 00:46:00,015
Speaker 3: other projects, so it strikes me as a really interesting

773
00:46:00,095 --> 00:46:03,255
Speaker 3: I mean, where it comes from a Japan It's been

774
00:46:03,415 --> 00:46:07,215
Speaker 3: used there for literally hundreds of years of treating timber.

775
00:46:07,655 --> 00:46:12,135
Speaker 3: So as long as there's the New Zealand based documentation

776
00:46:12,375 --> 00:46:17,335
Speaker 3: for it, I think it wouldn't be a flat out

777
00:46:17,335 --> 00:46:19,495
Speaker 3: note from me or far from It could actually be

778
00:46:19,575 --> 00:46:22,495
Speaker 3: really cool. And the large the fact that it's a

779
00:46:22,575 --> 00:46:25,255
Speaker 3: vertical weatherboard, you'd want to look at how those joints

780
00:46:25,335 --> 00:46:31,695
Speaker 3: are detailed, and possibly to the builder might have taken

781
00:46:31,735 --> 00:46:34,455
Speaker 3: the approach that, in effect, the cladding is simply a

782
00:46:34,615 --> 00:46:40,015
Speaker 3: rain screen, so most of their weather tightness is in

783
00:46:40,135 --> 00:46:45,335
Speaker 3: their wraps underneath that. So even if there's a little

784
00:46:45,335 --> 00:46:48,815
Speaker 3: bit of moisture ingress through the cladding, it won't impact

785
00:46:48,855 --> 00:46:51,935
Speaker 3: on the building durability because of the wraps behind it.

786
00:46:51,975 --> 00:46:54,175
Speaker 3: But then again, this goes back to my early comment

787
00:46:54,215 --> 00:46:59,215
Speaker 3: about systems and processes, So if it was designed that

788
00:46:59,255 --> 00:47:01,495
Speaker 3: way from the get go, so I'm going to use

789
00:47:01,695 --> 00:47:04,375
Speaker 3: this type of framing, this type of rigid EA barrier,

790
00:47:04,415 --> 00:47:07,815
Speaker 3: potentially this type of rap, these types of tapes, this

791
00:47:07,895 --> 00:47:10,615
Speaker 3: type of cavity batteren and then that type of cladding.

792
00:47:11,815 --> 00:47:15,975
Speaker 3: And I'm going to be particularly diligent around my wraps

793
00:47:15,975 --> 00:47:18,375
Speaker 3: and so on, because I realized that in this situation

794
00:47:18,815 --> 00:47:21,615
Speaker 3: I might not quite get to the weather tightness that

795
00:47:21,655 --> 00:47:24,535
Speaker 3: I would expect of other clatting types. Or I'm going

796
00:47:24,535 --> 00:47:28,455
Speaker 3: to mitigate, minimize and manage the risk by doing this

797
00:47:28,535 --> 00:47:31,215
Speaker 3: other work. So if that's all in the drawings, then

798
00:47:31,375 --> 00:47:34,615
Speaker 3: I feel reasonably confident about it. But get a building

799
00:47:34,615 --> 00:47:36,455
Speaker 3: inspector to have a look at it. Oh, eight hundred

800
00:47:36,455 --> 00:47:39,015
Speaker 3: and eighty ten eighty is the number to call. Another

801
00:47:39,055 --> 00:47:41,015
Speaker 3: quick one just before we go someone we were talking

802
00:47:41,015 --> 00:47:44,255
Speaker 3: about TV brackets. Someone who wants to install sixty five

803
00:47:44,255 --> 00:47:45,975
Speaker 3: ins TV. We don't have to go on about the

804
00:47:46,015 --> 00:47:51,335
Speaker 3: size onto the wall. And it's a steel stud, so

805
00:47:52,175 --> 00:47:53,975
Speaker 3: you know, in terms of screwing into a steel stud,

806
00:47:54,015 --> 00:47:58,095
Speaker 3: it's a little different obviously to timber. Particular types of

807
00:47:58,135 --> 00:48:01,415
Speaker 3: screws work well, others don't work as well. Don't overtalk

808
00:48:01,455 --> 00:48:04,095
Speaker 3: it someone else's texture and said, look, also, don't just

809
00:48:04,175 --> 00:48:05,935
Speaker 3: rely on the holes that are in the bracket, Like

810
00:48:06,015 --> 00:48:08,455
Speaker 3: if you need to put in some extra fixings, just

811
00:48:08,535 --> 00:48:10,775
Speaker 3: drill through the bracket and add some more screws. And

812
00:48:10,815 --> 00:48:14,375
Speaker 3: I'm guessing too that sometimes you know where the holes

813
00:48:14,375 --> 00:48:16,535
Speaker 3: are in the bracket don't line up with the studs

814
00:48:16,575 --> 00:48:18,535
Speaker 3: in terms of if you want the TV to be

815
00:48:18,615 --> 00:48:21,295
Speaker 3: over one hundred mil. So, yeah, drilling some extra holes

816
00:48:21,295 --> 00:48:24,215
Speaker 3: in the bracket is okay. I think, oh, eight hundred

817
00:48:24,295 --> 00:48:29,135
Speaker 3: eighty eighty self tapping screws is the word there. We'll

818
00:48:29,135 --> 00:48:32,375
Speaker 3: talk about fireplaces and jeeinery a little bit later on,

819
00:48:32,415 --> 00:48:34,855
Speaker 3: but right now, Eve, thank you for waiting, and good morning.

820
00:48:35,295 --> 00:48:37,775
Speaker 2: Oh, thank you for taking my call. Good morning, Peter.

821
00:48:38,495 --> 00:48:42,215
Speaker 2: I just had to have a very simple question. Sure,

822
00:48:42,815 --> 00:48:49,295
Speaker 2: it's a long, long driveway. Yes, yeah, poor houses, it's

823
00:48:49,335 --> 00:48:52,335
Speaker 2: the end of your long driveway and the first house

824
00:48:52,415 --> 00:48:54,975
Speaker 2: and there's another house. We are not attached, is the

825
00:48:55,015 --> 00:48:59,175
Speaker 2: cross of these titles, and now buy the driveway. There's

826
00:48:59,255 --> 00:49:04,015
Speaker 2: another house. So there's another house next to the driveway. Yep, okay,

827
00:49:04,415 --> 00:49:09,495
Speaker 2: then we be number eight and number B or sharing

828
00:49:09,655 --> 00:49:13,575
Speaker 2: the driveway. Only two houses sharing the driveway. And what

829
00:49:13,735 --> 00:49:18,055
Speaker 2: happened was the the fences fell down a bit like

830
00:49:18,335 --> 00:49:22,455
Speaker 2: maybe about three meters or four meters okay, not fell

831
00:49:22,535 --> 00:49:25,095
Speaker 2: down to the ground, but fill down the halfway, so

832
00:49:25,135 --> 00:49:29,335
Speaker 2: it's not it's not convenient to drive, you know, it

833
00:49:29,455 --> 00:49:33,775
Speaker 2: still can pass through, but still not convenient. And I

834
00:49:33,775 --> 00:49:38,735
Speaker 2: would I thought three houses should share the fence. I

835
00:49:38,775 --> 00:49:42,495
Speaker 2: don't know, I don't know exactly legally, okay, and suddenly

836
00:49:42,735 --> 00:49:47,495
Speaker 2: asking you because the one of the the neighbor next

837
00:49:47,535 --> 00:49:50,535
Speaker 2: to the fence, and she is not using the driver,

838
00:49:50,695 --> 00:49:54,855
Speaker 2: she's she will share, and then but the one next

839
00:49:54,855 --> 00:50:01,375
Speaker 2: to me be using the driver. She thinks it's only

840
00:50:01,735 --> 00:50:06,095
Speaker 2: the neighbor next to the fence the neighbor should pay,

841
00:50:06,415 --> 00:50:12,255
Speaker 2: not us, right to your opinion, So this is.

842
00:50:12,255 --> 00:50:14,295
Speaker 3: An issue about the fact that the fence has come

843
00:50:14,335 --> 00:50:17,815
Speaker 3: down needs repair, and it's who has to pay for that,

844
00:50:18,255 --> 00:50:21,815
Speaker 3: and if it's so funny. We talked about this a

845
00:50:21,815 --> 00:50:24,015
Speaker 3: little while ago on the show, and I guess I'd

846
00:50:24,055 --> 00:50:27,575
Speaker 3: always looked at it as being whoever the affected party is right.

847
00:50:27,655 --> 00:50:32,735
Speaker 3: So if the fence is shared between yourself and the

848
00:50:32,855 --> 00:50:35,215
Speaker 3: neighbor on the other side of the boundary, which might

849
00:50:35,255 --> 00:50:38,495
Speaker 3: be that the person that has rights to the driveway,

850
00:50:40,135 --> 00:50:43,735
Speaker 3: it could actually be where the fence has fallen over

851
00:50:43,895 --> 00:50:48,495
Speaker 3: the property owners on both sides of that. Plus, because

852
00:50:48,535 --> 00:50:52,535
Speaker 3: it's a cross lease, the neighboring owner may have to contribute,

853
00:50:53,055 --> 00:50:56,615
Speaker 3: and then if someone is using the driveway to access

854
00:50:56,655 --> 00:51:03,535
Speaker 3: and other property, they will need to contribute as well.

855
00:51:04,615 --> 00:51:09,015
Speaker 3: It doesn't sound particularly clear it but that's it could

856
00:51:09,095 --> 00:51:12,655
Speaker 3: be more than just the affected parties potentially.

857
00:51:13,775 --> 00:51:19,055
Speaker 2: Okay, so tool houses using the driveway, and so the

858
00:51:19,135 --> 00:51:24,015
Speaker 2: two houses your share, right, yes? Okay, Now the one

859
00:51:24,535 --> 00:51:28,455
Speaker 2: is a neighbor, she is now using the They have

860
00:51:28,535 --> 00:51:33,135
Speaker 2: their own driveway, they don't use ours, and we don't share.

861
00:51:34,415 --> 00:51:38,055
Speaker 2: We don't share the tight don't share the land, so

862
00:51:38,135 --> 00:51:40,775
Speaker 2: that the share as well.

863
00:51:40,935 --> 00:51:45,015
Speaker 3: But is the fence on the boundary between the two

864
00:51:45,095 --> 00:51:48,815
Speaker 3: properties or is the fence within the cross least title?

865
00:51:50,535 --> 00:51:52,975
Speaker 3: Like sometimes what happens is you've got the driveway and

866
00:51:53,015 --> 00:51:56,535
Speaker 3: you've got the section next to it, and the driveway

867
00:51:56,655 --> 00:51:59,015
Speaker 3: goes down so that the person at the bat can

868
00:51:59,015 --> 00:52:02,695
Speaker 3: get access and there's a fence around the cross one

869
00:52:02,735 --> 00:52:05,575
Speaker 3: of the units. Is it that fence that's fallen over

870
00:52:05,735 --> 00:52:08,815
Speaker 3: or is it a fence that's actually between two properties

871
00:52:10,455 --> 00:52:12,095
Speaker 3: and between two driveways.

872
00:52:12,615 --> 00:52:18,935
Speaker 2: The driveway belonged to on me and my neighbour's property. Yes,

873
00:52:19,095 --> 00:52:24,255
Speaker 2: now we both use the driveway to use a driveway, okay, yep,

874
00:52:24,335 --> 00:52:28,375
Speaker 2: But there is a neighbor who is not using the

875
00:52:28,495 --> 00:52:33,055
Speaker 2: driveway at all, but who is sharing the fence with us.

876
00:52:32,855 --> 00:52:37,015
Speaker 3: Okay, then they will need to contribute as well. Look,

877
00:52:37,095 --> 00:52:39,615
Speaker 3: it might be one of those things. If people are

878
00:52:39,655 --> 00:52:43,695
Speaker 3: reluctant to pay, or it's difficult to sort of explain

879
00:52:43,735 --> 00:52:46,135
Speaker 3: to them why they need to pay, you may need

880
00:52:46,215 --> 00:52:48,215
Speaker 3: to go to a lawyer or get a bit of

881
00:52:48,295 --> 00:52:51,215
Speaker 3: legal advice, someone who can look at the title, look

882
00:52:51,215 --> 00:52:55,415
Speaker 3: at the cross lease, determine who the parties are and

883
00:52:55,455 --> 00:52:57,855
Speaker 3: then send them Because in order to get money out

884
00:52:57,895 --> 00:53:02,175
Speaker 3: of someone for repairs or replacement of offence, you have

885
00:53:02,215 --> 00:53:04,615
Speaker 3: to go to the Fencing Act and then there's a

886
00:53:04,855 --> 00:53:09,695
Speaker 3: sort of a prescribed process which includes issuing a letter

887
00:53:10,455 --> 00:53:14,575
Speaker 3: to the other party explaining why does they need to contribute,

888
00:53:14,655 --> 00:53:17,255
Speaker 3: how much they're going to have to contribute, and then

889
00:53:17,375 --> 00:53:20,575
Speaker 3: that becomes enforceable. But you have to issue the letter

890
00:53:21,055 --> 00:53:25,575
Speaker 3: in order to get any money or contribution from anyone else.

891
00:53:25,655 --> 00:53:29,535
Speaker 3: So the Fencing Act and the letter is really really important.

892
00:53:30,135 --> 00:53:33,775
Speaker 2: And the neighbor who is not using the driveway or

893
00:53:34,295 --> 00:53:38,215
Speaker 2: is agreed to pay. Yes, Actually, there's no doubt when

894
00:53:38,255 --> 00:53:41,895
Speaker 2: I mentioned to her and she said, okay, she understands.

895
00:53:42,055 --> 00:53:45,695
Speaker 2: Okay now, but then when I as talk to my

896
00:53:45,855 --> 00:53:49,295
Speaker 2: neighbor who is using the driveway with me, we are

897
00:53:49,335 --> 00:53:50,055
Speaker 2: on the SAT.

898
00:53:51,175 --> 00:53:53,615
Speaker 3: They think it's your fence to repair.

899
00:53:54,015 --> 00:53:58,095
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, she said, we shouldn't pay for that. You

900
00:53:58,335 --> 00:54:02,415
Speaker 2: think the neighbor who is not using the driver should

901
00:54:02,415 --> 00:54:05,095
Speaker 2: pay for it, right, So yeah.

902
00:54:05,375 --> 00:54:07,415
Speaker 3: I think in the end it's it depends a little

903
00:54:07,455 --> 00:54:11,175
Speaker 3: bit on the nature of your cross lease agreement. They

904
00:54:11,215 --> 00:54:14,455
Speaker 3: may well need to contribute because they're part of the crossley,

905
00:54:14,615 --> 00:54:17,735
Speaker 3: so they're part of Effectively, you own their property and

906
00:54:17,775 --> 00:54:20,455
Speaker 3: they own yours, and therefore they may need to contribute

907
00:54:20,495 --> 00:54:23,895
Speaker 3: because it's a cross lease property. But again, in order

908
00:54:23,975 --> 00:54:25,615
Speaker 3: to get that tied up, I think you need to

909
00:54:25,615 --> 00:54:28,615
Speaker 3: get some decent legal advice and then issue a letter

910
00:54:28,975 --> 00:54:31,455
Speaker 3: under the Fencing Act and then ask for a contribution

911
00:54:31,575 --> 00:54:35,935
Speaker 3: from there. Hope it all goes well. Oh eight hundred eighty,

912
00:54:36,015 --> 00:54:37,975
Speaker 3: thank you very much for you. Call eve eight hundred

913
00:54:37,975 --> 00:54:39,855
Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty if you've got a question of a

914
00:54:39,895 --> 00:54:42,535
Speaker 3: building nature. The lines are open. The number to call

915
00:54:42,775 --> 00:54:46,095
Speaker 3: eight hundred eighty ten eighty and texts on nine two

916
00:54:46,175 --> 00:54:48,895
Speaker 3: nine two. Actually, just before we go the break, Sonia

917
00:54:48,935 --> 00:54:51,295
Speaker 3: has text this, Hey, just wondering about our fire. We've

918
00:54:51,335 --> 00:54:53,495
Speaker 3: just found out that the fire isn't in an eight

919
00:54:53,575 --> 00:54:57,095
Speaker 3: year old home, is a natural gas version and we've

920
00:54:57,175 --> 00:55:00,175
Speaker 3: always been on LPG. We've had trouble with it for years.

921
00:55:00,175 --> 00:55:02,055
Speaker 3: But I'm wondering if this is dangerous and should the

922
00:55:02,095 --> 00:55:05,295
Speaker 3: build company have to rectify it even after this long

923
00:55:08,495 --> 00:55:13,335
Speaker 3: eight years. You could try, I mean, certainly from my

924
00:55:13,455 --> 00:55:18,615
Speaker 3: understanding is that it's the basically, there's a valve or

925
00:55:18,615 --> 00:55:21,095
Speaker 3: the burner or that sort of thing that you have

926
00:55:21,135 --> 00:55:26,655
Speaker 3: to change. The fireplace itself can use either natural gas

927
00:55:26,775 --> 00:55:32,175
Speaker 3: or LPG, but it's the I don't do enough of

928
00:55:32,215 --> 00:55:35,455
Speaker 3: this to know exactly, but it's the burner basically that

929
00:55:35,535 --> 00:55:39,175
Speaker 3: has to be changed. And yes, you're right, they should

930
00:55:39,175 --> 00:55:41,775
Speaker 3: have known that at the time if they knew, unless

931
00:55:41,815 --> 00:55:44,055
Speaker 3: the person who installed the fire wasn't aware that it

932
00:55:44,095 --> 00:55:46,815
Speaker 3: was going to run on LPG and that was a

933
00:55:46,855 --> 00:55:50,055
Speaker 3: decision made by somebody later on and didn't talk to

934
00:55:50,095 --> 00:55:53,015
Speaker 3: the original installer. But either way, I'm sure it can

935
00:55:53,055 --> 00:55:56,295
Speaker 3: be rectified. I try the company see if they can

936
00:55:56,335 --> 00:55:59,135
Speaker 3: help out. But I think it's likely to be at

937
00:55:59,135 --> 00:56:01,935
Speaker 3: your expense at this stage. Coming up twenty one minutes

938
00:56:01,975 --> 00:56:05,255
Speaker 3: after seven. If you've got a question of a building

939
00:56:05,335 --> 00:56:08,335
Speaker 3: nature gives, call Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty. Is

940
00:56:08,375 --> 00:56:09,015
Speaker 3: that number to.

941
00:56:08,975 --> 00:56:12,495
Speaker 1: Call helping you finish that five minute fix you started

942
00:56:12,655 --> 00:56:17,095
Speaker 1: the Resident Builder with Peter Wilfcamp and Independent Building Supplies.

943
00:56:17,215 --> 00:56:20,775
Speaker 1: The future of Kiwi building today, Call Oh eight hundred

944
00:56:20,855 --> 00:56:22,735
Speaker 1: eighty ten eighty Youth Talks there'd be.

945
00:56:23,335 --> 00:56:26,935
Speaker 3: Tiny homes continue to surge in popularity across New Zealand

946
00:56:27,055 --> 00:56:30,415
Speaker 3: as more people look for smarter, more efficient ways to live.

947
00:56:30,775 --> 00:56:33,735
Speaker 3: One company at the forefront of that movement is tiny

948
00:56:33,815 --> 00:56:37,975
Speaker 3: Home HQ, known for their modular, high quality builds. They've

949
00:56:38,015 --> 00:56:41,855
Speaker 3: recently been incorporating some you can try boardlining into their

950
00:56:41,895 --> 00:56:45,175
Speaker 3: houses and they're joining us now to talk about why

951
00:56:45,215 --> 00:56:48,855
Speaker 3: that is so. Matt from Tiny Home HQ A very

952
00:56:48,895 --> 00:56:49,375
Speaker 3: good morning.

953
00:56:50,055 --> 00:56:51,815
Speaker 9: Yeah, thanks, Peter Birgod morning to you two.

954
00:56:52,215 --> 00:56:55,175
Speaker 3: Hey. Now, for people that haven't heard of tiny home HQ,

955
00:56:55,735 --> 00:56:57,615
Speaker 3: tell us about the concept and what it is that

956
00:56:57,655 --> 00:56:58,175
Speaker 3: you're building.

957
00:56:58,935 --> 00:57:01,535
Speaker 9: Yeah, that's a good question, Peter. So if tiny ha

958
00:57:01,655 --> 00:57:04,255
Speaker 9: mach Q, our vision is for everybody in useum to

959
00:57:04,295 --> 00:57:07,375
Speaker 9: hit a warm, dry and state home. And what's a

960
00:57:07,415 --> 00:57:10,535
Speaker 9: big part of working toward that vision. It's churning materials

961
00:57:10,575 --> 00:57:12,975
Speaker 9: that look good for people in the home, good for

962
00:57:13,015 --> 00:57:14,975
Speaker 9: our buildings to work with, and are easy and strong.

963
00:57:15,975 --> 00:57:19,695
Speaker 3: Now you've recently started using tryboard lining on the interior

964
00:57:19,735 --> 00:57:22,295
Speaker 3: of the build So what's attracted you to the tryboard?

965
00:57:23,535 --> 00:57:25,775
Speaker 9: That's a good question and we get asked this a

966
00:57:25,775 --> 00:57:28,535
Speaker 9: lot by our customers. Sure, so we like to use

967
00:57:28,615 --> 00:57:32,535
Speaker 9: natural products. So you know, the typical and traditional wood

968
00:57:32,575 --> 00:57:35,135
Speaker 9: and timber framing that carries is known in after years

969
00:57:35,215 --> 00:57:38,615
Speaker 9: and tryboard is a modern wood based wall lining. It's

970
00:57:38,695 --> 00:57:42,015
Speaker 9: very strong and when it's painted, it's very smart. It's

971
00:57:42,015 --> 00:57:44,695
Speaker 9: got a hard wearing finish and that makes it idea

972
00:57:44,695 --> 00:57:46,175
Speaker 9: of almost every room in the house.

973
00:57:46,815 --> 00:57:50,135
Speaker 3: Now, from a builder's perspective, the advantages of tryboard for

974
00:57:50,175 --> 00:57:52,895
Speaker 3: these tiny home systems that you've introduced.

975
00:57:53,455 --> 00:57:53,855
Speaker 4: It's good.

976
00:57:53,935 --> 00:57:56,975
Speaker 9: Yeah. So, as mentioned, the tribe is strong, and it's

977
00:57:57,015 --> 00:57:59,735
Speaker 9: fast and it's easy to work with. So for us

978
00:57:59,855 --> 00:58:02,215
Speaker 9: in the industry, we had to be able to build

979
00:58:02,255 --> 00:58:05,895
Speaker 9: and deliver an entire three bedroom house within ten weeks,

980
00:58:06,015 --> 00:58:08,415
Speaker 9: so it's pretty critical for our teams they can do

981
00:58:08,535 --> 00:58:12,215
Speaker 9: their work without worrying about evenly damaged material, and that

982
00:58:12,335 --> 00:58:15,415
Speaker 9: they can cut into any interior wall to any shape

983
00:58:15,495 --> 00:58:20,455
Speaker 9: using just standard tools. And for our customers as well,

984
00:58:20,695 --> 00:58:23,495
Speaker 9: you know, they can pick up Tribald from any major

985
00:58:24,095 --> 00:58:26,575
Speaker 9: hardware shop and any local builder will be able to

986
00:58:26,615 --> 00:58:29,775
Speaker 9: sort of dosepectives or modifications that they need.

987
00:58:30,095 --> 00:58:34,655
Speaker 3: So obviously durability structural performance really important when you're working

988
00:58:34,775 --> 00:58:37,975
Speaker 3: in these compact, multifunctional spaces. How does that work for you?

989
00:58:38,975 --> 00:58:41,775
Speaker 9: Yeah, it's critical because you know, we can build a

990
00:58:41,855 --> 00:58:45,295
Speaker 9: very large they say six meters by six stem meters

991
00:58:45,335 --> 00:58:49,055
Speaker 9: tiny home that's about thirteen or fourteen tons, So as

992
00:58:49,095 --> 00:58:52,855
Speaker 9: it's transported around the country and sitting strapped to the

993
00:58:52,855 --> 00:58:55,215
Speaker 9: truck and the truck is trying to twist and tear

994
00:58:55,255 --> 00:58:57,055
Speaker 9: it and bend it because of the roads and the

995
00:58:57,055 --> 00:58:59,975
Speaker 9: conditions that the house has sort of used to get

996
00:59:00,015 --> 00:59:04,415
Speaker 9: to where it's going. Narrow roads, twisting, tight canvas. So

997
00:59:04,815 --> 00:59:06,655
Speaker 9: what we find, and this is one of the we

998
00:59:06,735 --> 00:59:10,295
Speaker 9: love triborders, that by the time the house wives there's

999
00:59:10,335 --> 00:59:12,535
Speaker 9: almost no damage at all. And that is that we

1000
00:59:12,575 --> 00:59:14,855
Speaker 9: don't have to send our painters down to in Chicago

1001
00:59:15,255 --> 00:59:18,095
Speaker 9: to paint something because the Tribord has held up and

1002
00:59:18,175 --> 00:59:21,815
Speaker 9: maintained its rigidity and it's look and feel as it's

1003
00:59:21,815 --> 00:59:22,775
Speaker 9: traveled through the country.

1004
00:59:23,415 --> 00:59:25,855
Speaker 3: So the fact you're transporting these that's one of the

1005
00:59:25,855 --> 00:59:28,655
Speaker 3: big design challenges and I guess that's where the Triboard

1006
00:59:29,335 --> 00:59:30,055
Speaker 3: pays for itself.

1007
00:59:30,615 --> 00:59:32,135
Speaker 9: Yeah, exactly, it's a no brainer.

1008
00:59:32,415 --> 00:59:32,615
Speaker 8: Yeah.

1009
00:59:32,895 --> 00:59:35,575
Speaker 3: Hey. Now, finally, if someone's considering a tiny home for

1010
00:59:35,615 --> 00:59:38,535
Speaker 3: the first time, because there's a lot to choose from,

1011
00:59:38,575 --> 00:59:40,895
Speaker 3: what's a piece of advice that you give them before

1012
00:59:40,935 --> 00:59:41,735
Speaker 3: they get started.

1013
00:59:42,415 --> 00:59:45,615
Speaker 9: You know, that's a very good question because there is

1014
00:59:45,655 --> 00:59:48,015
Speaker 9: a lot of interest and we're seeing a huge uptick

1015
00:59:48,175 --> 00:59:51,215
Speaker 9: and the people contacting us, particularly after the granny flat

1016
00:59:51,255 --> 00:59:55,975
Speaker 9: legislation earlier this year. So our recommendation is to do

1017
00:59:56,015 --> 01:00:00,135
Speaker 9: your research, try not to make a hasty decision. On

1018
01:00:00,175 --> 01:00:02,815
Speaker 9: our website in particularly, we've got some great resources that

1019
01:00:02,975 --> 01:00:06,295
Speaker 9: are useful for anybody who's going to buy from anybody

1020
01:00:06,655 --> 01:00:10,575
Speaker 9: right general museful information so you can interrogate a builder,

1021
01:00:11,015 --> 01:00:13,455
Speaker 9: you can check on the quality, and you can ask questions.

1022
01:00:13,495 --> 01:00:16,175
Speaker 9: That's going to make sure that your investment is a

1023
01:00:16,215 --> 01:00:17,535
Speaker 9: good one and it's going to last few.

1024
01:00:17,535 --> 01:00:20,215
Speaker 3: For years now, you've talked about the website and the

1025
01:00:20,255 --> 01:00:24,655
Speaker 3: website is TINYHOMEHQ dot co dot nz. You can find

1026
01:00:24,695 --> 01:00:28,095
Speaker 3: out more about the team from tiny home HQ. Daniel,

1027
01:00:28,175 --> 01:00:30,815
Speaker 3: thank you very much for your time this morning. You're welcome,

1028
01:00:30,855 --> 01:00:33,855
Speaker 3: Thanks Pete, and to learn more about tryboard, go to

1029
01:00:34,215 --> 01:00:39,255
Speaker 3: JANL dot co dot nz, News Talk zb you and

1030
01:00:39,295 --> 01:00:41,895
Speaker 3: news TALKSB. If you've got a question of a building nature, well,

1031
01:00:41,895 --> 01:00:44,055
Speaker 3: the lines are open for you right now. Eight hundred

1032
01:00:44,175 --> 01:00:46,775
Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty is that number to call twenty eight

1033
01:00:46,815 --> 01:00:51,335
Speaker 3: minutes after seven eight hundred eighty ten eighty nine two

1034
01:00:51,455 --> 01:00:53,495
Speaker 3: ninety two on the text And if you'd like to

1035
01:00:53,535 --> 01:00:56,535
Speaker 3: email me, you're more than welcome to do that as well.

1036
01:00:56,575 --> 01:01:00,615
Speaker 3: It's Pete at newstalk SB dot co dot nz. Every

1037
01:01:00,615 --> 01:01:04,695
Speaker 3: now and then people try and text through photographs. Doesn't work.

1038
01:01:04,735 --> 01:01:06,535
Speaker 3: I know it works on your phone and and all

1039
01:01:06,535 --> 01:01:09,455
Speaker 3: the rest of it doesn't work for our system because

1040
01:01:09,495 --> 01:01:11,695
Speaker 3: as it happens, the texts come onto a screen and

1041
01:01:12,615 --> 01:01:15,415
Speaker 3: I don't know why it doesn't work. So if you

1042
01:01:15,415 --> 01:01:17,255
Speaker 3: need to see me a photograph, you need to attach

1043
01:01:17,295 --> 01:01:19,495
Speaker 3: it to an email and send it to me at

1044
01:01:19,535 --> 01:01:24,095
Speaker 3: Pete atnewstuxib dot co dot nz. Because for some things

1045
01:01:24,095 --> 01:01:27,095
Speaker 3: that's kind of helpful and even trying to work our

1046
01:01:27,095 --> 01:01:31,015
Speaker 3: way through Janine Jenny's issue in terms of finding a

1047
01:01:31,055 --> 01:01:33,455
Speaker 3: leak in the French doors, like one person's text through

1048
01:01:33,495 --> 01:01:36,175
Speaker 3: and said, hey, look, we had a persistent leak in

1049
01:01:36,215 --> 01:01:39,175
Speaker 3: some joinery turned out to be the glass seal or

1050
01:01:39,175 --> 01:01:42,615
Speaker 3: the rubber seal around the glass. That might be true,

1051
01:01:42,695 --> 01:01:47,895
Speaker 3: for example, in aluminium jowinery. In timber joinery, it's possible

1052
01:01:47,975 --> 01:01:50,735
Speaker 3: to get leaking through the glazing, but it's pretty uncommon,

1053
01:01:50,775 --> 01:01:53,335
Speaker 3: to be fair, and if you do, you'll see it

1054
01:01:53,455 --> 01:01:56,575
Speaker 3: just as beating on the inside of the sash at

1055
01:01:56,575 --> 01:02:00,255
Speaker 3: the bottom. But in terms of a leak that'll get

1056
01:02:00,295 --> 01:02:04,775
Speaker 3: through the framing and be seen on the inside cladding

1057
01:02:04,815 --> 01:02:07,215
Speaker 3: on the rather on the inside lining like the plaster

1058
01:02:07,295 --> 01:02:09,735
Speaker 3: board and so on, it's probably not coming through the

1059
01:02:10,335 --> 01:02:14,535
Speaker 3: glazing as such in that instant, so but appreciate the

1060
01:02:14,575 --> 01:02:17,215
Speaker 3: texts on that, and a couple of other good questioning

1061
01:02:17,375 --> 01:02:19,975
Speaker 3: texts that have come through as well. I'm not sure

1062
01:02:20,095 --> 01:02:22,735
Speaker 3: I can ask rud about this, but this sounds might

1063
01:02:23,095 --> 01:02:25,575
Speaker 3: feel like a question more for him. Our neighbors who

1064
01:02:25,615 --> 01:02:28,495
Speaker 3: feed the birds bread and other scraps the birds are

1065
01:02:28,535 --> 01:02:32,015
Speaker 3: leaving Pooh all over the dechromastic tiles and a certain

1066
01:02:32,135 --> 01:02:34,735
Speaker 3: spot I guess they gather their waiting for their dinner.

1067
01:02:35,815 --> 01:02:37,335
Speaker 3: What can I clean that mess off with?

1068
01:02:37,415 --> 01:02:40,215
Speaker 4: Thanks?

1069
01:02:41,735 --> 01:02:45,335
Speaker 3: It's a very good question. I'm thinking any household cleaner

1070
01:02:45,375 --> 01:02:48,695
Speaker 3: would probably take care of it. It's just the hassle

1071
01:02:48,735 --> 01:02:51,815
Speaker 3: of having to get close to or onto the roof

1072
01:02:51,895 --> 01:02:56,855
Speaker 3: in order to remove it would be the issue. And

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Speaker 3: on deck romastico, I guess because it's not a smooth surface,

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Speaker 3: there's lots of little nooks and crannies and crevices for

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Speaker 3: that to it here too. But I regular exterior cleaner,

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Speaker 3: housewash that sort of thing will certainly take care of that.

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Speaker 3: But I can also understand your frustration there, Pet, just

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Speaker 3: because the person doesn't share the driveway, but they do

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Speaker 3: share the fence, they'll have to pay a portion of

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Speaker 3: the repair. I know someone else who experience exactly that scenario,

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Speaker 3: and it's from Rosy, so that I think that's that

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Speaker 3: whole thing. Where cross leases, the rules and regulations are

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Speaker 3: slightly different too if you had a fee simple title

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Speaker 3: which is your own. So I think getting some proper

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Speaker 3: legal advice is probably not a bad thing to do

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Speaker 3: in this particular instance. A couple of other texts that

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Speaker 3: have come through. Yeah, there you go. The lady is

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Speaker 3: talking about the falling fence on the shared driveway. We've

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Speaker 3: had the same issue our too. Units are on a

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Speaker 3: cross lease and the rotten fence and missing timber is

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Speaker 3: between our shared driveway and the neighbor on the other side.

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Speaker 3: They and us know that we will all have to

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Speaker 3: pay to fix it. Brilliant. Thank you very much for that.

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Speaker 3: I appreciate the heads up your news talks. He'd be

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Speaker 3: will talk to Tom in just a moment. It is seven

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Speaker 3: p thirty two. We'll take a break talk to Tom

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Speaker 3: in a moment.

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Speaker 1: Where DIY gets unstuck. Call eight eight the Resident Builder

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Speaker 1: with Peter WILFCAM and Independent Building Supplies the future of

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Speaker 1: ki We Building Today News Talks.

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Speaker 3: The b lines are open. The number to call eight

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Speaker 3: hundred eighty ten eighty seven thirty five Tom, Good morning, Good.

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Speaker 8: Morning, Peter.

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Speaker 16: Hi, I've got a question about guests and houses.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, sure, was.

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Speaker 8: Looked at it.

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Speaker 16: I was looking at the house. Yes to possibly buy, yep.

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Speaker 16: And it's got gas hot water, yes, just for the

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Speaker 16: just for the shower. Its basically in the kitchen, I

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Speaker 16: guess and I was wondering. I heard that the government

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Speaker 16: was trying to phase out gas. So in your opinion,

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Speaker 16: I mean think we will always have guests for available.

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Speaker 3: I think when you say always, I would go that's

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Speaker 3: a long long time, and I wouldn't actually be that

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Speaker 3: confident in it.

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Speaker 16: Well, I will say, perhaps of my lifetime. In the

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Speaker 16: next so the lifetime I would have the house, so

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Speaker 16: in another twenty years.

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Speaker 3: So you can tell by the sort of hesitation of

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Speaker 3: my voice. This is a really really fascinating issue at

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Speaker 3: the moment in terms on a number of different levels.

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Speaker 3: One in terms of renewables and energy efficient sources for

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Speaker 3: heating and so on and so forth. So and I'm

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Speaker 3: talking about someone. I'm speaking of someone who's got guess

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Speaker 3: hot water, right. It was a system that we initially

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Speaker 3: put in probably twenty five years ago when we were

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Speaker 3: renovating the house. I like it in the sense that

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Speaker 3: you've got in our case, we've got a califont on

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Speaker 3: the outside of the building. It gives you continuous hot water,

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Speaker 3: and if you happen to like a long shower and

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01:06:21,455 --> 01:06:26,175
Speaker 3: that sort of thing, that's great. It means that for

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Speaker 3: older electric systems where you were heating and storing water

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01:06:31,335 --> 01:06:35,615
Speaker 3: that you might not necessarily be using. There's an inefficiency

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Speaker 3: to that, right. You know, if I'm not using the water,

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Speaker 3: if I'm out for the day or I'm out for

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Speaker 3: a weekend or whatever, and my hot water cylinder is

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01:06:43,695 --> 01:06:46,535
Speaker 3: constantly reheating because it's cooling down and it's on, there's

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Speaker 3: an efficiency to that. So at the time that I

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01:06:50,495 --> 01:06:53,055
Speaker 3: guess we made a decision to put gas on and

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Speaker 3: to put on a califont, it made a lot of sense.

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Speaker 3: Would I make the same choice today, No, I probably wouldn't,

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01:07:02,815 --> 01:07:06,015
Speaker 3: only because I still like it and it's still very

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01:07:06,295 --> 01:07:09,615
Speaker 3: effective for us. But if I look at what options

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01:07:09,615 --> 01:07:12,015
Speaker 3: there are in terms of heat pump, hot water and

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01:07:12,055 --> 01:07:18,695
Speaker 3: so on, so really high, highly efficient systems to generate water.

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01:07:18,975 --> 01:07:22,055
Speaker 3: If I look at modern water storage, you know they're

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01:07:22,135 --> 01:07:26,135
Speaker 3: much more insulated, they don't have the same heat loss issues.

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Speaker 3: And of course I could then potentially power that from

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01:07:31,015 --> 01:07:34,215
Speaker 3: renewables in terms of electricity, or I could link that

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01:07:34,255 --> 01:07:41,935
Speaker 3: to solar, and that's a much more environmentally friendly, sustainable option, right,

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Speaker 3: And look, we do obviously have issues in terms of

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Speaker 3: gas supply. I was talking with. This is kind of

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01:07:51,175 --> 01:07:54,895
Speaker 3: tangential to what we're talking about, but a guy who's

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01:07:54,935 --> 01:08:00,015
Speaker 3: involved in manufacturing product out of aluminium. Now the off

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01:08:00,055 --> 01:08:05,615
Speaker 3: cut the manufacturer used to take the offcuts and they

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01:08:05,615 --> 01:08:09,855
Speaker 3: would fire up their own smelter basically on site in

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01:08:09,975 --> 01:08:13,415
Speaker 3: order to use the to use the offcuts, to recycle

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01:08:13,455 --> 01:08:17,335
Speaker 3: it and to make more extrusion. But because of gas

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01:08:17,375 --> 01:08:21,935
Speaker 3: supply issues, they can't do that at the moment. It's

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Speaker 3: too costly, too difficult for them to do that, which

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Speaker 3: means that that scrap material is being sold offshore for recycling.

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Speaker 3: So you know, there's there's been a whole lot of

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Speaker 3: stories about large companies not being able to use gas

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Speaker 3: because there is insufficient supply. And then the argument goes, well,

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Speaker 3: hang on, arguably it is more important that large companies

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Speaker 3: get to use the gas, and you and I as

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Speaker 3: residential consumers who have other options, should look at getting

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Speaker 3: off gas.

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Speaker 7: Right.

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Speaker 3: Sorry, it's a slightly long winded response to your question,

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01:08:59,815 --> 01:09:02,095
Speaker 3: but you know, this is a really this is a

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Speaker 3: genuine issue on a number of different levels for us

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Speaker 3: at the moment.

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Speaker 16: And do you when you're on Guess free lines on

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Speaker 16: gas and electricity.

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Speaker 15: Yes, she said that you have to pay two connection fees.

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Speaker 8: One rerection fee that one conuction for the gas.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so if you're on main supply gas, there will

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Speaker 3: be a connection fee. And I know some people recently

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Speaker 3: who opted to remove their gas supply because they were

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01:09:29,655 --> 01:09:32,495
Speaker 3: basically paying more on their line charge than they were

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Speaker 3: on actually the product that they were using the ie

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Speaker 3: the gas.

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Speaker 8: Right, and how much would it cost to.

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Speaker 12: Do guess and charge it to electric system?

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Speaker 3: You think, well, see, if you were going to go electric,

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Speaker 3: you'd want to go the best possible system, right, and

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Speaker 3: that's going to be a heat pump hot water system,

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Speaker 3: which effectively makes it about three hundred percent efficient, right,

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01:10:01,415 --> 01:10:05,735
Speaker 3: so you it requires you get three hundred percent more

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01:10:05,935 --> 01:10:08,575
Speaker 3: energy out of the use of it. There's a whole

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Speaker 3: lot of technical stuff around that, and I'm probably not

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01:10:10,415 --> 01:10:13,295
Speaker 3: explaining it particularly well, but it is. But those systems

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01:10:13,335 --> 01:10:17,975
Speaker 3: are then considerably more expensive than a regular outdoor electric

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01:10:18,055 --> 01:10:21,055
Speaker 3: hot water system. So you might do a swapover, let's say,

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Speaker 3: from gas to electric. If everything's in this in the

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Speaker 3: same location for sort of three to four thousand, you

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Speaker 3: might be spending close to ten thousand dollars if you

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Speaker 3: wanted to put a heat pump hot water in possibly

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Speaker 3: a bit less but you know it would be significant,

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01:10:36,335 --> 01:10:38,655
Speaker 3: but it would. And then I guess too, you'd look

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01:10:38,695 --> 01:10:43,375
Speaker 3: at what you're using the gas. So for example, in

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01:10:43,815 --> 01:10:46,295
Speaker 3: this house that you're looking at, is the gas there

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01:10:46,455 --> 01:10:49,895
Speaker 3: just purely for water? Or is the gas also for

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01:10:49,935 --> 01:10:55,135
Speaker 3: the hobbs for example? Do they maybe have radiators? It's

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01:10:55,335 --> 01:10:59,815
Speaker 3: just for hot water? Okay? And look if there's a

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01:10:59,855 --> 01:11:03,735
Speaker 3: suitable location, like ideally where the existing gas unit is,

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01:11:04,415 --> 01:11:06,695
Speaker 3: if it's not in a really obvious place, and if

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01:11:06,735 --> 01:11:09,415
Speaker 3: the pathways wide enough that you could put an exterior

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01:11:09,455 --> 01:11:13,815
Speaker 3: hot water system there, then it's a relatively straight swapover.

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Speaker 8: Okay. Cool.

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01:11:16,895 --> 01:11:19,655
Speaker 3: Sorry that it's a much bigger topic than what you

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01:11:19,855 --> 01:11:23,255
Speaker 3: might have expected, but it's a really fascinating debate at

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01:11:23,255 --> 01:11:26,135
Speaker 3: the moment for the country to be having around. You know,

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01:11:26,255 --> 01:11:31,815
Speaker 3: what's the future for domestic gas supply? And you know,

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01:11:31,855 --> 01:11:33,655
Speaker 3: are we going to see a time in the future

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Speaker 3: when I know there's no new connections, but how long

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01:11:37,055 --> 01:11:41,535
Speaker 3: will there be regular and affordable gas connections to most

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01:11:41,535 --> 01:11:42,175
Speaker 3: of our houses.

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Speaker 16: It's a really good to change over from guests to

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01:11:46,695 --> 01:11:47,415
Speaker 16: the alternative.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's me as a chippy, right, so I'm

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01:11:49,815 --> 01:11:51,855
Speaker 3: not going to upset my plumber mates and gas for

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01:11:51,935 --> 01:11:56,295
Speaker 3: the mates and so on. I'd get advice from and

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01:11:56,335 --> 01:11:59,135
Speaker 3: there will be people who now are specializing and doing

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01:11:59,175 --> 01:12:04,615
Speaker 3: this right. So yeah, actually, I tell you what. Here

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01:12:04,655 --> 01:12:07,695
Speaker 3: we go. Look, I've got lots of mates that do

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01:12:07,775 --> 01:12:10,535
Speaker 3: gas fitting, right. So here's a quick text before we

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01:12:10,575 --> 01:12:13,215
Speaker 3: go the plumber's board. Notice, we expect gas used to

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01:12:13,255 --> 01:12:16,095
Speaker 3: continue for at least twenty years. Investment in the gas

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01:12:16,135 --> 01:12:18,655
Speaker 3: networks will need to continue to provide safe and a

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01:12:18,695 --> 01:12:22,455
Speaker 3: reliable network over this horizon. That's from the Commissioner. Obviously,

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01:12:22,495 --> 01:12:24,535
Speaker 3: your clients need to make their own judgments about the

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01:12:24,615 --> 01:12:28,495
Speaker 3: energy choices, but the comcoms impartial assessment should be helpful

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01:12:28,495 --> 01:12:30,975
Speaker 3: when advising for the future of gas. So there you go.

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Speaker 3: Thanks very much for that chorn. That's awesome. There you go.

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01:12:33,655 --> 01:12:37,655
Speaker 3: That's some more opinion as well. I know, not a

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01:12:37,655 --> 01:12:39,815
Speaker 3: straightforward answer, but there you go. That's that's something to

1239
01:12:39,895 --> 01:12:44,335
Speaker 3: chew on all the best. Yeah, thanks very much. Oh

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01:12:44,375 --> 01:12:46,655
Speaker 3: eight hundred eighty ten eight. We're going to actually we're

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01:12:46,655 --> 01:12:47,695
Speaker 3: going to take a break. Then we're going to have

1242
01:12:47,735 --> 01:12:51,095
Speaker 3: a quick chat with Mike Olds from Razine Construction. They

1243
01:12:51,175 --> 01:12:56,215
Speaker 3: are going to be celebrating forty years in business and Mike, well,

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01:12:56,215 --> 01:12:58,615
Speaker 3: he doesn't look at day over twenty, has been there

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01:12:58,615 --> 01:13:00,775
Speaker 3: from the start. So we'll chat with Mike in just

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01:13:00,815 --> 01:13:01,495
Speaker 3: a moment.

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Speaker 1: Measure twice call once on eight hundred eighty ten eighty

1248
01:13:06,415 --> 01:13:10,455
Speaker 1: the Resident Building with peterwolf Camp and Independent Building Supplies

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01:13:10,615 --> 01:13:14,815
Speaker 1: the Future of Kiwi Building Today, News Talks be You and.

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01:13:14,855 --> 01:13:17,135
Speaker 3: News Talks he'd be and Pete wolf Camp with you

1251
01:13:17,175 --> 01:13:20,415
Speaker 3: this morning and joining us Mike Olds from Razine Construction,

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01:13:20,495 --> 01:13:22,895
Speaker 3: which I guess back in the day forty odd years

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01:13:22,895 --> 01:13:27,095
Speaker 3: ago when the family started the business it was rock code.

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Speaker 8: I guess, yeah, very much. So yep, that was in

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01:13:31,215 --> 01:13:36,495
Speaker 8: the mid eighties. So we've tipped over our fortieth anniversary

1256
01:13:36,775 --> 01:13:39,615
Speaker 8: and it's a bit of a yeah, a bit of

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01:13:39,615 --> 01:13:43,695
Speaker 8: a milestone to be fair. And from a local christ

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01:13:43,735 --> 01:13:50,335
Speaker 8: Church family clastering business, yes, to national supplier of materials

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01:13:50,375 --> 01:13:55,575
Speaker 8: to the largest contract network in the country. So yeah,

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01:13:55,695 --> 01:13:58,495
Speaker 8: it's quite interesting just doing a little bit of sort

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01:13:58,495 --> 01:14:00,895
Speaker 8: of background on the business in terms of what some

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01:14:00,935 --> 01:14:03,455
Speaker 8: of those tipping points were in terms of you know,

1263
01:14:03,535 --> 01:14:07,935
Speaker 8: getting from a local family business to a national company

1264
01:14:08,135 --> 01:14:11,695
Speaker 8: and it's interesting. I was looking back and I was

1265
01:14:11,695 --> 01:14:15,415
Speaker 8: trying to find an article that sprung to mind that

1266
01:14:16,295 --> 01:14:19,615
Speaker 8: got phone calls going in terms of plasters around the

1267
01:14:19,615 --> 01:14:22,335
Speaker 8: country contacting us, and there was one there was one

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01:14:22,455 --> 01:14:24,935
Speaker 8: article that was we made the cover of a trends

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01:14:24,975 --> 01:14:26,975
Speaker 8: magazine back in the day and it was for a

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01:14:27,015 --> 01:14:31,335
Speaker 8: beautiful project down in Duneda. And ever since then that

1271
01:14:31,495 --> 01:14:34,095
Speaker 8: was really one of the catalyst points where it got

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01:14:34,135 --> 01:14:38,175
Speaker 8: people knowing about us. I mean back then, I meane

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01:14:38,455 --> 01:14:42,535
Speaker 8: ages ago, there wasn't social media and that wasn't it

1274
01:14:42,615 --> 01:14:46,495
Speaker 8: wasn't the accessibility to get people aware via Instagram or

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01:14:46,535 --> 01:14:49,135
Speaker 8: Facebook or anything like that. So these were still back

1276
01:14:49,135 --> 01:14:51,695
Speaker 8: in the days when there was faxes peaked and not

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01:14:51,735 --> 01:14:57,055
Speaker 8: the many people remember those. But from those days we've

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01:14:57,095 --> 01:15:00,895
Speaker 8: seen gfc's we've had sheer market crashes we've had and

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01:15:00,935 --> 01:15:02,655
Speaker 8: the big one for us is probably in two thousand

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01:15:02,655 --> 01:15:05,695
Speaker 8: and five with the change the building code. So we've

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01:15:05,735 --> 01:15:09,775
Speaker 8: seen so and experienced so much has strengthened us over

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01:15:09,815 --> 01:15:13,695
Speaker 8: the years to be where we are, and ultimately, in

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01:15:13,895 --> 01:15:17,815
Speaker 8: sort of two thousand and three, Razine Groups saw the

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Speaker 8: opportunity with the business and acquired the company and since

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Speaker 8: then we've just expanded and lifted and built and moved

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01:15:25,575 --> 01:15:29,935
Speaker 8: into slightly different areas and construction, not just plastering but

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01:15:30,015 --> 01:15:35,175
Speaker 8: into the lightweight concrete systems and a variety of other solutions.

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01:15:35,695 --> 01:15:38,055
Speaker 8: But key to everything that the business does is around

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01:15:38,055 --> 01:15:40,575
Speaker 8: that professionalism of the trade and the craft of the trade.

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Speaker 8: And we're still hugely we're still huge proponents of the

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Speaker 8: trade and the craft of plastering. And this year we

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01:15:48,895 --> 01:15:52,135
Speaker 8: have our conference which you'll be em seeing for at

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Speaker 8: the beginning of May, and to celebrate, to celebrate that

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01:15:55,495 --> 01:15:58,415
Speaker 8: we have over well had nine on two hundred guests

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Speaker 8: to our awards awards dinner at the Amazing Year One

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Speaker 8: Stadium in christ Church, So it's going to be a

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Speaker 8: pretty substantial event. And on a very special occasion, we're

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Speaker 8: at the ce from rock Cod in Australia or over.

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Speaker 8: We have the original owner of rock Cod and Australia,

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Speaker 8: Bob Cameron, still owns the company and his team and

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Speaker 8: Roger Olds is going to be there, who started the

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Speaker 8: rock Code here in New Zealand. So yeah, so a

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01:16:26,575 --> 01:16:29,695
Speaker 8: little bit nostalgic, but looking at what we what we

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01:16:29,735 --> 01:16:32,895
Speaker 8: did from our little single story boxes and direct fixed

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01:16:32,895 --> 01:16:37,655
Speaker 8: plannings through to some of the some of the most

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01:16:37,655 --> 01:16:42,735
Speaker 8: outrageous and beautiful designs and plastering in the country will

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01:16:42,775 --> 01:16:45,615
Speaker 8: be on show. So it's going to be a very

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Speaker 8: cool celebration.

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Speaker 3: And certainly worthy of celebrations. So hopefully just talking about

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Speaker 3: social media, we might see a bit of that celebration

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01:16:51,655 --> 01:16:54,815
Speaker 3: on socials, but definitely will looking forward to joining you

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01:16:54,855 --> 01:16:57,135
Speaker 3: and all of the team in christ Church actually at

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01:16:57,135 --> 01:16:59,575
Speaker 3: Takaha the new stadium, So that's going to be pretty

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01:16:59,615 --> 01:17:02,695
Speaker 3: exciting as well. And I think you know worthy to

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01:17:02,895 --> 01:17:07,175
Speaker 3: take a moment in an environment where you know, businesses tough, right,

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01:17:07,255 --> 01:17:10,055
Speaker 3: and so I think in New Zealand we we should

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01:17:10,255 --> 01:17:14,895
Speaker 3: celebrate recognize those companies that have been through more than

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01:17:14,935 --> 01:17:18,695
Speaker 3: one downturn and stuck around and continued to grow and

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01:17:18,735 --> 01:17:21,695
Speaker 3: continue to develop. So my congratulations to you and to

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Speaker 3: all the team and look.

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Speaker 8: Forward to absolutely fat and really opportunity. I mean to

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01:17:27,655 --> 01:17:31,015
Speaker 8: talk about supporting New Zealand. Yeah, supporting New Zealand made

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01:17:31,055 --> 01:17:34,655
Speaker 8: businesses absolutely so that we so we don't get for

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01:17:34,695 --> 01:17:37,975
Speaker 8: these businesses and companies don't close down, support local and

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01:17:39,175 --> 01:17:41,815
Speaker 8: it's such a key thing, you know, for for our

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Speaker 8: society to move forward one hundred percent.

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Speaker 3: Again, congratulations, looking forward to joining you for the celebrations

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01:17:46,855 --> 01:17:48,895
Speaker 3: and thanks very much for your time this morning. Might

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01:17:49,015 --> 01:17:51,815
Speaker 3: take care, Thanks all the best, and to find out

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01:17:51,815 --> 01:17:54,575
Speaker 3: more go to Razineconstruction dot co dot n Z, so

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01:17:54,615 --> 01:17:57,815
Speaker 3: have a look online. There's the technical stuff, but there's

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01:17:57,855 --> 01:18:01,855
Speaker 3: also kind of the inspirational as well, in terms of

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01:18:01,895 --> 01:18:05,615
Speaker 3: those amazing buildings that Mike was talking about and some

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01:18:05,695 --> 01:18:08,335
Speaker 3: of whom I've been fortunate enough to see as well.

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Speaker 3: Seven fifty two at news Talk. Z'd be Michelle. Greetings

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Speaker 3: to you, Yes, good morning.

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Speaker 17: Just a quick bit of advice please, I have some

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01:18:17,295 --> 01:18:21,255
Speaker 17: ceramic numbers that I want to attach to a concrete house.

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01:18:21,255 --> 01:18:24,935
Speaker 17: What's the best and fastest setting product to use?

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Speaker 3: I would suggest Soudal Fix All right, yeah, so s

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01:18:30,695 --> 01:18:34,775
Speaker 3: o U d A L fix All it's you sorry,

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01:18:34,935 --> 01:18:39,135
Speaker 3: So s o U d a L is the brand

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01:18:39,215 --> 01:18:42,415
Speaker 3: fixed a fix all Yep. It comes in a couple

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01:18:42,415 --> 01:18:45,015
Speaker 3: of different colors, so choose a color that's close to

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01:18:45,055 --> 01:18:49,975
Speaker 3: the surface that you're adhering to. But I've I've used

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01:18:49,975 --> 01:18:52,975
Speaker 3: it for you know, sort of concrete to concrete bonding

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01:18:53,135 --> 01:18:55,935
Speaker 3: and for small repairs, and it's worked really well.

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Speaker 17: Very good, lovely, Thanks.

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01:18:58,455 --> 01:19:04,255
Speaker 3: All the best, Take care, uh Tony great hang on

1350
01:19:04,295 --> 01:19:07,775
Speaker 3: hand hang on hand on hand Yep, we've got you, Tony.

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01:19:07,815 --> 01:19:10,055
Speaker 3: Good morning, Good morning, Peter.

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01:19:10,175 --> 01:19:14,535
Speaker 14: Hey there, I'm just got to inquiry about I turned

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01:19:14,575 --> 01:19:19,095
Speaker 14: my whole water cylinder off basically six days a week,

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01:19:19,095 --> 01:19:20,975
Speaker 14: if you want to look at it that way. I

1355
01:19:21,015 --> 01:19:24,935
Speaker 14: only turn it on three and a half hours twice

1356
01:19:24,975 --> 01:19:28,335
Speaker 14: a week to eat my water up. Is it detrimental

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01:19:28,415 --> 01:19:31,575
Speaker 14: to the cylinder for the future or anything like that.

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Speaker 3: I don't know that it would be. I'm happy to

1359
01:19:39,055 --> 01:19:42,455
Speaker 3: take a text from a plumber who might want to

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01:19:42,495 --> 01:19:45,055
Speaker 3: offer up an opinion on that. It would also be

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01:19:45,175 --> 01:19:49,575
Speaker 3: really interesting to know whether, in terms of energy usage,

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01:19:49,695 --> 01:19:53,335
Speaker 3: let's say, over a week long period, if you do

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01:19:53,415 --> 01:19:55,895
Speaker 3: what you're doing, and I'm guessing that the theory behind

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01:19:55,935 --> 01:19:58,255
Speaker 3: it is, well, if I don't need the hot water,

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01:19:58,495 --> 01:20:00,695
Speaker 3: why should I pay to heat it? If I'm not

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Speaker 3: using it? Therefore, I'll turn it off right totally. So

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Speaker 3: what will be happening inside the cylinder is let's say

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01:20:08,175 --> 01:20:10,615
Speaker 3: the cylinder it'll be at fifty five degrees or something

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01:20:10,655 --> 01:20:14,735
Speaker 3: like that, possibly a fraction higher. Then it will cool

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Speaker 3: down to I don't know what temperature. What's water when

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Speaker 3: it's out of the tap. Maybe I don't know, eighteen

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Speaker 3: nineteen degrees something like that, and then.

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Speaker 18: How much sorry, I mean, when I turn it back on.

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Speaker 14: I mean it's probably very lukewarmth when I turn it

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01:20:34,735 --> 01:20:39,015
Speaker 14: on for three and three days easy, Yep.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure I reckon. If you went to the ECA website,

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Speaker 3: I wonder whether there would so. ECA is the Energy

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Speaker 3: Efficiency Conservation Authority of New Zealand. They do a lot

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01:20:49,855 --> 01:20:52,655
Speaker 3: of research on this particular film. We've had some of

1380
01:20:52,695 --> 01:20:55,375
Speaker 3: their experts on the show. It'd be really interesting to

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01:20:55,455 --> 01:21:01,135
Speaker 3: know whether there is an actual saving by turning it off,

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01:21:01,295 --> 01:21:04,375
Speaker 3: or whether, in fact the energy that's required to bring

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01:21:04,415 --> 01:21:07,855
Speaker 3: it back up to the temperature that you want uses

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01:21:07,935 --> 01:21:10,375
Speaker 3: more energy than what it might have used to just

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Speaker 3: keep heating it modestly over a period of time. I

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01:21:14,455 --> 01:21:16,695
Speaker 3: don't know the answer, but I'm sure someone's tested it,

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Speaker 3: and I'm sure there'll be some evidence for it out there.

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Speaker 18: So I can't see, and I don't have the internet,

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01:21:23,135 --> 01:21:26,535
Speaker 18: so I was hoping maybe somebody can lead, you know,

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Speaker 18: and maybe you could put it over there.

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Speaker 3: I tell you what, I keep making these promises, and

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Speaker 3: then I realized during the week that I may or

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01:21:36,615 --> 01:21:38,695
Speaker 3: may not have time to do it. I might send

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Speaker 3: an email to the guy that I know at Eca

1395
01:21:40,815 --> 01:21:43,615
Speaker 3: and go, hey, what's the evidence on this? Because I

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Speaker 3: remember we had a similar discussion around should you for example,

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Speaker 3: if you're heating your lounge with a heat pump, should

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01:21:50,975 --> 01:21:53,815
Speaker 3: you set it at a certain temperature so that the

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01:21:53,975 --> 01:21:56,935
Speaker 3: air stays that temperature all the time, or should you

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Speaker 3: just turn it off, let the room get cold, and

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01:21:58,895 --> 01:22:02,255
Speaker 3: turn it back on again. And here's a cliffhanger. I'll

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Speaker 3: give you the answer to that after the eight o'clock news.

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01:22:06,575 --> 01:22:11,535
Speaker 3: You always take care. Yeah, there you go. That'll keep

1404
01:22:11,575 --> 01:22:15,415
Speaker 3: you listening for the not that you were going away anyway,

1405
01:22:15,975 --> 01:22:17,375
Speaker 3: but we'll listen to a bit of music. We'll have

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01:22:17,415 --> 01:22:19,815
Speaker 3: the news at eight o'clock. Remember red Climb passed from

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01:22:19,935 --> 01:22:21,775
Speaker 3: eight point thirty Your News Talks B.

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01:22:38,455 --> 01:22:41,135
Speaker 1: Vexing what they forgot to mention on that YouTube video

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01:22:41,615 --> 01:22:46,095
Speaker 1: The resident builder with Peter Wolfcamp and Independent Building supplies

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01:22:46,175 --> 01:22:51,735
Speaker 1: the future of Kiwi Building today. Call eight News Talks.

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Speaker 3: B right, welcome back to the show. And eight hundred

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01:22:55,415 --> 01:22:57,175
Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty is the number to call. And I

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01:22:57,175 --> 01:22:59,535
Speaker 3: almost forgot the cliffhang apart. I was just going to

1414
01:22:59,615 --> 01:23:02,935
Speaker 3: launch into everything else and I realized in our conversation

1415
01:23:03,015 --> 01:23:06,415
Speaker 3: with Tony just prior to the news some time ago,

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01:23:06,495 --> 01:23:09,135
Speaker 3: and it's probably worth another visit. Actually, we had one

1417
01:23:09,175 --> 01:23:12,535
Speaker 3: of the researchers from ECA join us on the show

1418
01:23:12,615 --> 01:23:17,015
Speaker 3: because there there's always been that discussion around, you know,

1419
01:23:17,135 --> 01:23:20,735
Speaker 3: as like we're approaching winter again. We're well into autumn

1420
01:23:20,735 --> 01:23:22,855
Speaker 3: now and you can certainly feel it's getting a bit

1421
01:23:22,895 --> 01:23:27,895
Speaker 3: colder and so on. And in terms of heating your

1422
01:23:28,175 --> 01:23:30,335
Speaker 3: let's say just the living room, right, maybe your whole house,

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01:23:30,375 --> 01:23:33,735
Speaker 3: But in terms of heating the house, do you take

1424
01:23:33,775 --> 01:23:37,255
Speaker 3: the approach that it's better to keep the house at

1425
01:23:37,775 --> 01:23:42,655
Speaker 3: comfortable temperature somewhere around twenty degrees by leaving heating that

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01:23:42,815 --> 01:23:46,015
Speaker 3: comes on and comes off and always maintains that temperature.

1427
01:23:46,215 --> 01:23:48,655
Speaker 3: Or do you let the temperature and the house just

1428
01:23:48,775 --> 01:23:51,255
Speaker 3: go to whatever the ambient temperature is going to be

1429
01:23:52,295 --> 01:23:55,215
Speaker 3: and it might be as little as twelve thirteen degrees

1430
01:23:55,775 --> 01:23:58,495
Speaker 3: if the house is unoccupied and unheated during the day,

1431
01:23:59,415 --> 01:24:01,215
Speaker 3: and then when you come back, let's say you go

1432
01:24:01,255 --> 01:24:02,895
Speaker 3: out for the day, you come back and then you

1433
01:24:02,935 --> 01:24:05,135
Speaker 3: turn the heating on, you bring the temperature up. Or

1434
01:24:05,175 --> 01:24:07,895
Speaker 3: is it better, is it more energy efficient? Does it

1435
01:24:08,015 --> 01:24:10,975
Speaker 3: use less energy to just maintain that temperature rather than

1436
01:24:11,055 --> 01:24:14,095
Speaker 3: letting it get cold. And the question was very much

1437
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Speaker 3: around the use of heat pumps, and so, to be fair,

1438
01:24:17,495 --> 01:24:21,415
Speaker 3: I had always had the impression that surely it would

1439
01:24:21,455 --> 01:24:23,415
Speaker 3: be more efficient just to set the heat pump for

1440
01:24:23,495 --> 01:24:25,975
Speaker 3: twenty degrees leave it on, so that when you came

1441
01:24:26,015 --> 01:24:28,655
Speaker 3: home it was at the desired temperature and you didn't

1442
01:24:28,695 --> 01:24:33,695
Speaker 3: have to then add energy, add power to create more heat.

1443
01:24:34,975 --> 01:24:37,135
Speaker 3: It turns out with heat pumps that's not the case.

1444
01:24:37,335 --> 01:24:41,055
Speaker 3: So there you go. So the guidance seems to be

1445
01:24:41,335 --> 01:24:43,815
Speaker 3: if you go out during the day, you come home

1446
01:24:43,855 --> 01:24:46,135
Speaker 3: at night, that's when you turn the heat pump on.

1447
01:24:46,615 --> 01:24:49,815
Speaker 3: You just set it for the desired temperature. So setting

1448
01:24:49,815 --> 01:24:53,175
Speaker 3: the heat pump for a higher temperature in order to

1449
01:24:53,215 --> 01:24:57,215
Speaker 3: heat the room quicker apparently doesn't work either. So you

1450
01:24:57,255 --> 01:24:58,895
Speaker 3: just go if you want it to be twenty degrees,

1451
01:24:59,015 --> 01:25:02,015
Speaker 3: just hit twenty degrees on the remote control and let

1452
01:25:02,055 --> 01:25:05,695
Speaker 3: the heat pump do the work. And that because it's

1453
01:25:05,735 --> 01:25:08,895
Speaker 3: a space heater. So it's because of the way in

1454
01:25:08,935 --> 01:25:11,775
Speaker 3: which a heat pump heats a room or a space

1455
01:25:12,335 --> 01:25:15,735
Speaker 3: that's the most efficient and effective use of a heat pump.

1456
01:25:15,775 --> 01:25:18,255
Speaker 3: Now that might not be true. For example, if you've

1457
01:25:18,255 --> 01:25:21,935
Speaker 3: got an electric wall heater, or if you've got radiators

1458
01:25:22,015 --> 01:25:24,655
Speaker 3: or something like that, it might be actually more effective

1459
01:25:24,655 --> 01:25:27,735
Speaker 3: in that case to keep the space at a comfortable

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01:25:27,775 --> 01:25:32,335
Speaker 3: temperature by using it. So anyway, but I think I

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01:25:32,935 --> 01:25:36,455
Speaker 3: have already written myself a note that will we will

1462
01:25:36,495 --> 01:25:40,255
Speaker 3: talk about that at some stage now, I think, Judy, sorry,

1463
01:25:40,535 --> 01:25:42,655
Speaker 3: I realized that I took a little while to get

1464
01:25:42,655 --> 01:25:44,535
Speaker 3: to you. If you want to give us a call back,

1465
01:25:44,655 --> 01:25:46,375
Speaker 3: well it we'll take your call right now.

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01:25:46,575 --> 01:25:46,735
Speaker 9: Now.

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01:25:46,895 --> 01:25:50,295
Speaker 3: Just a bit of an update as well. Who would

1468
01:25:50,335 --> 01:25:53,375
Speaker 3: normally join us at around eight point thirty is just

1469
01:25:53,455 --> 01:25:56,615
Speaker 3: going to slightly take a break and he's going to

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01:25:56,655 --> 01:25:59,815
Speaker 3: join us at about quarter to nine, just have a

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01:25:59,815 --> 01:26:02,535
Speaker 3: bit of a chat. I'm sure he won't mind me

1472
01:26:02,615 --> 01:26:05,095
Speaker 3: saying he had surgery on his knee. He talks about

1473
01:26:05,135 --> 01:26:09,175
Speaker 3: that a bit. I think today he's just, let's be

1474
01:26:09,215 --> 01:26:11,615
Speaker 3: really honest, not quite up to having a big long chat.

1475
01:26:11,655 --> 01:26:13,055
Speaker 3: But he is going to join us for a little

1476
01:26:13,095 --> 01:26:15,255
Speaker 3: bit wen talk about possum trapping and a few other

1477
01:26:15,295 --> 01:26:19,055
Speaker 3: bits and pieces. So a slightly extended building program this morning,

1478
01:26:20,375 --> 01:26:23,895
Speaker 3: and will join us. But we won't be taking calls.

1479
01:26:23,935 --> 01:26:27,175
Speaker 3: At this stage, it's just gone ten minutes after eight.

1480
01:26:27,255 --> 01:26:32,415
Speaker 3: I've got a whole bunch of texts around again. What

1481
01:26:32,455 --> 01:26:35,055
Speaker 3: we were talking about with Tony prior to the break.

1482
01:26:35,935 --> 01:26:38,295
Speaker 3: He's saying, what I do is I turn my hot

1483
01:26:38,335 --> 01:26:40,455
Speaker 3: water cylinder off because I don't need the hot water,

1484
01:26:41,415 --> 01:26:42,975
Speaker 3: and then I just turn it back on again a

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01:26:43,015 --> 01:26:45,495
Speaker 3: couple of days later when I need it. A number

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01:26:45,815 --> 01:26:48,215
Speaker 3: of people and thank you for your texts, have pointed

1487
01:26:48,215 --> 01:26:52,895
Speaker 3: out that if you do that, there is a chance

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01:26:52,975 --> 01:26:57,535
Speaker 3: of getting sick from legionella. So the reason that we

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01:26:57,655 --> 01:27:00,775
Speaker 3: keep our hot water cylinders at a certain temperature, so

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01:27:00,855 --> 01:27:04,575
Speaker 3: typically in the cylinder about sixty degrees at the tap.

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01:27:04,655 --> 01:27:07,495
Speaker 3: It should only be fifty five degrees where it comes out.

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01:27:09,495 --> 01:27:16,415
Speaker 3: The reason for that is to prevent the emergence, the generation,

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01:27:16,615 --> 01:27:20,615
Speaker 3: the growth of Legionella in the hot water cylinders. So

1494
01:27:20,735 --> 01:27:23,735
Speaker 3: actually turning it off allowing it to go cool, would

1495
01:27:23,895 --> 01:27:26,735
Speaker 3: increase the risk of that. Hence leaving your hot water

1496
01:27:26,775 --> 01:27:30,375
Speaker 3: cylinders all on all of the time, and just very

1497
01:27:30,495 --> 01:27:34,015
Speaker 3: quickly before we talk to k a pete eye change

1498
01:27:34,015 --> 01:27:38,775
Speaker 3: from gas to a highly effective outdoor gas system now

1499
01:27:38,855 --> 01:27:40,895
Speaker 3: water only for two and a half thousand dollars, not

1500
01:27:40,935 --> 01:27:48,375
Speaker 3: wanting to recommend supplies. However, the new one, well that, yeah,

1501
01:27:48,455 --> 01:27:52,055
Speaker 3: so a highly efficient outdoor gas system, but still gas

1502
01:27:53,095 --> 01:27:54,895
Speaker 3: at two and a half thousand, so I just wonder

1503
01:27:54,975 --> 01:27:57,015
Speaker 3: what it would cost. Then then you've got the line

1504
01:27:57,095 --> 01:27:59,455
Speaker 3: charge as well, what it would cost to have not

1505
01:27:59,735 --> 01:28:03,295
Speaker 3: gone to gas. And I'm not anti gas, right, I've

1506
01:28:03,295 --> 01:28:07,335
Speaker 3: got it at home and there's parts of it that

1507
01:28:07,495 --> 01:28:09,695
Speaker 3: I really really like. Would I do it again in

1508
01:28:09,735 --> 01:28:16,615
Speaker 3: the future, I'd have to question that. But there are

1509
01:28:16,655 --> 01:28:18,575
Speaker 3: some energy efficient systems out there, so we can have

1510
01:28:18,615 --> 01:28:20,095
Speaker 3: a look at those as well. Oh eight hundred and

1511
01:28:20,135 --> 01:28:23,175
Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty lots and lots of text thank you

1512
01:28:23,215 --> 01:28:29,935
Speaker 3: for that. I'm just looking at the ones about the

1513
01:28:30,015 --> 01:28:32,775
Speaker 3: legion now that I think that's really important. This one

1514
01:28:32,815 --> 01:28:34,855
Speaker 3: as well from Bruce hey Pete. Last week I got

1515
01:28:34,895 --> 01:28:38,095
Speaker 3: quoted two thousand, six hundred and eighty four dollars plus

1516
01:28:38,215 --> 01:28:45,375
Speaker 3: GST to disconnect the gas. Be interested in a bit

1517
01:28:45,415 --> 01:28:48,895
Speaker 3: more information on that one, Bruce. Was that simply to

1518
01:28:48,935 --> 01:28:53,855
Speaker 3: have it disconnected or was that to disconnect and then

1519
01:28:53,975 --> 01:28:58,015
Speaker 3: to provide alternative solutions? So, for example, if you had

1520
01:28:58,055 --> 01:29:04,575
Speaker 3: gas hobbs, for example, would that include taking out your

1521
01:29:04,575 --> 01:29:08,015
Speaker 3: gas hob and replacing it within and electroc ob for example.

1522
01:29:08,095 --> 01:29:10,735
Speaker 3: Or is it just about disconnecting the gas because that

1523
01:29:10,815 --> 01:29:16,335
Speaker 3: seems quite a bit to be fair, just to disconnect

1524
01:29:16,415 --> 01:29:20,295
Speaker 3: and just unbolt the meter and cap it off. Oh

1525
01:29:21,375 --> 01:29:24,095
Speaker 3: the number to call, kay A very very good morning

1526
01:29:24,095 --> 01:29:25,215
Speaker 3: to you. How are you this morning?

1527
01:29:27,255 --> 01:29:30,295
Speaker 19: Good morning, Peter, I'm very good, thank you, good good morning.

1528
01:29:32,055 --> 01:29:37,975
Speaker 19: I had a wooden cabin built last year and it

1529
01:29:38,175 --> 01:29:41,815
Speaker 19: had been painted. I got professional painters and to do

1530
01:29:41,935 --> 01:29:46,655
Speaker 19: that over summer with the heat, I noticed some of

1531
01:29:46,695 --> 01:29:51,615
Speaker 19: the panels had started to shrink slightly. I queried this

1532
01:29:51,655 --> 01:29:54,895
Speaker 19: with my builder and he said, just paint where they'd shrunk.

1533
01:29:54,935 --> 01:29:58,375
Speaker 19: And he said, only look at putting silicon in there

1534
01:29:58,575 --> 01:29:59,895
Speaker 19: if it's not watertight.

1535
01:30:01,575 --> 01:30:02,695
Speaker 12: So I had.

1536
01:30:02,655 --> 01:30:05,415
Speaker 19: Painted where they had shrunk slightly and exposed.

1537
01:30:04,895 --> 01:30:05,935
Speaker 8: Some of the raw timber.

1538
01:30:06,455 --> 01:30:08,895
Speaker 19: Yes, that seemed to be fine. But I noticed after

1539
01:30:09,095 --> 01:30:15,535
Speaker 19: the last week's headed downpour where the knots had started

1540
01:30:15,535 --> 01:30:18,855
Speaker 19: to crack, water has started to come and into the

1541
01:30:18,855 --> 01:30:22,975
Speaker 19: building be caught through these wooden knots and the cracks.

1542
01:30:23,295 --> 01:30:26,055
Speaker 19: So I'm just wondering how would I treat them to

1543
01:30:27,015 --> 01:30:27,815
Speaker 19: make them water tight?

1544
01:30:28,935 --> 01:30:29,175
Speaker 4: Right?

1545
01:30:33,415 --> 01:30:36,695
Speaker 3: I suppose a question in the back of my mind,

1546
01:30:36,815 --> 01:30:42,455
Speaker 3: and I'm almost reluctant to ask, is if after such

1547
01:30:42,495 --> 01:30:46,015
Speaker 3: a short period of time, you're already having issues with

1548
01:30:46,095 --> 01:30:51,655
Speaker 3: the cladding, I either knots and the cladding. I just

1549
01:30:51,775 --> 01:30:54,815
Speaker 3: wonder whether the cladding is not up to the standard

1550
01:30:55,335 --> 01:30:59,135
Speaker 3: required in the building code. I don't know, but like

1551
01:31:00,175 --> 01:31:03,655
Speaker 3: typically if you're looking at pladding in solid timber, there

1552
01:31:03,695 --> 01:31:06,935
Speaker 3: may well be knots, but they'd be what's considered a

1553
01:31:06,975 --> 01:31:09,455
Speaker 3: tight knot. And in fact, in some ways you really

1554
01:31:09,495 --> 01:31:13,335
Speaker 3: shouldn't have not an exterior cladding at all, so it

1555
01:31:13,375 --> 01:31:18,495
Speaker 3: should be clear boards, you know, maybe in really old pladdings.

1556
01:31:18,495 --> 01:31:21,135
Speaker 3: But I'm just trying to think if I've seen a

1557
01:31:21,215 --> 01:31:23,215
Speaker 3: cladding in the last couple of years that I might

1558
01:31:23,255 --> 01:31:26,335
Speaker 3: have installed that actually had knots in it, or if

1559
01:31:26,375 --> 01:31:28,175
Speaker 3: it did have knots in it, would I cut it

1560
01:31:28,215 --> 01:31:31,015
Speaker 3: out so that I don't have the potential for them

1561
01:31:31,095 --> 01:31:35,375
Speaker 3: opening up in the future. Okay, so there's a bit

1562
01:31:35,375 --> 01:31:37,775
Speaker 3: of a question mark in my mind about that, but

1563
01:31:38,215 --> 01:31:41,135
Speaker 3: it is what you've got, so let's solve the problem.

1564
01:31:41,255 --> 01:31:45,855
Speaker 3: I would probably remove the paint off the surface so

1565
01:31:45,975 --> 01:31:49,975
Speaker 3: that it's bare timber, and then i'd use actually something

1566
01:31:50,175 --> 01:31:54,375
Speaker 3: like repair Care, which is a combination of an adhesive

1567
01:31:54,695 --> 01:31:58,895
Speaker 3: and a filler, so it's a two pot system. You

1568
01:31:58,935 --> 01:32:02,895
Speaker 3: can get it at razine color shops. You mix it

1569
01:32:02,895 --> 01:32:07,135
Speaker 3: to it's called repair Care. That's the name of this. Yeah,

1570
01:32:07,215 --> 01:32:11,775
Speaker 3: so two tubes. They may ask you technically you should

1571
01:32:11,775 --> 01:32:14,415
Speaker 3: buy the dispenser gun as well, but to be fair

1572
01:32:14,455 --> 01:32:17,415
Speaker 3: for a small repair, you possibly just get the product

1573
01:32:17,415 --> 01:32:20,375
Speaker 3: out using another method, which is just a stick orus.

1574
01:32:21,175 --> 01:32:23,495
Speaker 3: It sounds dodgy, but if you're only going to use

1575
01:32:23,535 --> 01:32:26,015
Speaker 3: it once, then I'm not sure that buying the dispenser

1576
01:32:26,415 --> 01:32:30,975
Speaker 3: is worth it, right, So use it. Mix it up

1577
01:32:31,135 --> 01:32:35,375
Speaker 3: exactly as per the instructions. You can fill the gaps

1578
01:32:35,415 --> 01:32:39,495
Speaker 3: around that knot, flush it off, wait for it to dry,

1579
01:32:39,615 --> 01:32:41,455
Speaker 3: sand it, and then paint over the top of it.

1580
01:32:42,295 --> 01:32:44,935
Speaker 3: That will give you a really good repair to those.

1581
01:32:44,775 --> 01:32:47,695
Speaker 19: Knots, okay, and then just prime it and.

1582
01:32:48,135 --> 01:32:51,695
Speaker 3: Then prime it and then paint it again. Yeah. And

1583
01:32:52,975 --> 01:32:55,335
Speaker 3: I mean even it's interesting. I was watching a building

1584
01:32:55,615 --> 01:32:59,215
Speaker 3: being clad the other day and they're using vertical cladding.

1585
01:32:59,415 --> 01:33:02,215
Speaker 3: They're not I don't know that it's timber. It might

1586
01:33:02,255 --> 01:33:04,975
Speaker 3: be a five or cement board. But interestingly enough, they

1587
01:33:05,015 --> 01:33:08,535
Speaker 3: got their painters to paint that part of the board

1588
01:33:08,535 --> 01:33:12,295
Speaker 3: that gets overlapped before it went up, so that if

1589
01:33:12,335 --> 01:33:15,615
Speaker 3: there's any movement, and there always is with cladding, as

1590
01:33:15,655 --> 01:33:20,255
Speaker 3: it moves, you're not exposing the primed surface of the board. Right.

1591
01:33:20,335 --> 01:33:23,375
Speaker 3: So let's say you're painting something a relatively dark color,

1592
01:33:23,735 --> 01:33:25,535
Speaker 3: you know that there'll always be a bit of movement

1593
01:33:25,535 --> 01:33:28,535
Speaker 3: in the cladding. By just taking the time to prime

1594
01:33:28,895 --> 01:33:31,495
Speaker 3: or to paint that part of the board that's going

1595
01:33:31,535 --> 01:33:34,575
Speaker 3: to be overlapped in the event that it moves slightly,

1596
01:33:34,695 --> 01:33:36,895
Speaker 3: you're not exposing the primer. And I thought that was

1597
01:33:37,375 --> 01:33:40,815
Speaker 3: that's a sign of someone who understands the product that

1598
01:33:40,815 --> 01:33:43,095
Speaker 3: they were in, a bit of forward thinking, a bit

1599
01:33:43,175 --> 01:33:46,455
Speaker 3: of planning, and then you go, okay, well when it

1600
01:33:46,495 --> 01:33:48,815
Speaker 3: does move, I'm not seeing all of those gaps. That's

1601
01:33:48,855 --> 01:33:54,615
Speaker 3: really smart, right, Yes, So I would have a slight

1602
01:33:54,695 --> 01:33:56,935
Speaker 3: caution around the type of cladding that they might have

1603
01:33:57,055 --> 01:34:02,855
Speaker 3: used in this little cabin. But there is a way

1604
01:34:02,855 --> 01:34:05,615
Speaker 3: to fix it. But you'll probably use a bit of

1605
01:34:05,735 --> 01:34:09,375
Speaker 3: repair care over the years to sort out those knots. Okay,

1606
01:34:09,455 --> 01:34:11,775
Speaker 3: all right, for you, having my pleasure nice chatting with you.

1607
01:34:12,495 --> 01:34:14,775
Speaker 3: Take care, k all the best, Oh eight hundred eighty

1608
01:34:14,855 --> 01:34:17,375
Speaker 3: ten eighty. We've got more calls coming up if you

1609
01:34:17,455 --> 01:34:20,655
Speaker 3: would like to talk about all things building and construction.

1610
01:34:20,735 --> 01:34:22,735
Speaker 3: As I said, we're going to take the show through

1611
01:34:22,815 --> 01:34:25,895
Speaker 3: a little bit longer today and Rude will just join

1612
01:34:25,975 --> 01:34:28,055
Speaker 3: us for the last fifteen minutes of the show. It

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Speaker 3: is eighteen minutes after eight.

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1635
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1636
01:35:43,095 --> 01:35:47,735
Speaker 3: We've gone into talking about like you're saving energy as

1637
01:35:47,735 --> 01:35:50,335
Speaker 3: we come into winter. That's not an unreasonable thing to

1638
01:35:50,335 --> 01:35:54,575
Speaker 3: think of. And following on from Tony's comments about his process,

1639
01:35:54,575 --> 01:35:57,615
Speaker 3: which is he turns the hot water cylinder off for

1640
01:35:57,655 --> 01:35:59,655
Speaker 3: a couple of days when he doesn't really need the

1641
01:35:59,695 --> 01:36:02,855
Speaker 3: hot water, which is kind of interesting in itself, and

1642
01:36:02,855 --> 01:36:05,175
Speaker 3: then turns it back on again. Are there some issues

1643
01:36:05,215 --> 01:36:07,015
Speaker 3: with that, Stuart? You've got a comment.

1644
01:36:08,335 --> 01:36:14,375
Speaker 7: Yeah, Hi, The hot water cylinder temperatures must remain above

1645
01:36:14,535 --> 01:36:19,255
Speaker 7: sixty five right degrees, that's the minimum as set by

1646
01:36:19,335 --> 01:36:23,975
Speaker 7: the codes. Your hot water taps can come down to

1647
01:36:24,335 --> 01:36:29,895
Speaker 7: fifty degrees. Now, kitchens and kitchens and laundries can be

1648
01:36:30,055 --> 01:36:36,095
Speaker 7: directly off the hot water cylinder at their temperatures right.

1649
01:36:36,375 --> 01:36:38,895
Speaker 3: And I know that, Like, if you're doing a final

1650
01:36:38,935 --> 01:36:42,895
Speaker 3: inspections the building inspectors. Typically the council inspectors will come

1651
01:36:42,935 --> 01:36:46,215
Speaker 3: through with a little thermometer and actually test the temperature

1652
01:36:46,295 --> 01:36:47,295
Speaker 3: at the taps, isn't it.

1653
01:36:48,175 --> 01:36:50,575
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm a building inspector with a council and yeah,

1654
01:36:50,575 --> 01:36:54,015
Speaker 7: that's mandatory, right, I've been with a couple of councils

1655
01:36:54,055 --> 01:36:57,255
Speaker 7: now and yep. Mandatory to check the.

1656
01:36:58,695 --> 01:37:03,095
Speaker 3: Taps as part of that final inspection process. Yeah. Yes,

1657
01:37:03,615 --> 01:37:07,015
Speaker 3: And so sixty five degrees inside the or the cylinder

1658
01:37:07,095 --> 01:37:10,215
Speaker 3: stays at sixty five degrees as a way of present

1659
01:37:10,655 --> 01:37:14,135
Speaker 3: preventing the onset of legionella or the potential growth of

1660
01:37:14,215 --> 01:37:15,695
Speaker 3: legionella inside the cylinder.

1661
01:37:16,535 --> 01:37:18,375
Speaker 7: Correct, that's the minimum temperature.

1662
01:37:19,295 --> 01:37:22,735
Speaker 3: So if you were to do what our previous caller

1663
01:37:22,815 --> 01:37:25,855
Speaker 3: Tony does and turn the cylinder off, let it go

1664
01:37:26,015 --> 01:37:28,655
Speaker 3: down to I don't know, it might be twenty degrees

1665
01:37:28,775 --> 01:37:30,855
Speaker 3: or something like that. Right, if it got really cool,

1666
01:37:32,655 --> 01:37:36,535
Speaker 3: that would potentially allow the growth of legionella. But then

1667
01:37:36,575 --> 01:37:39,095
Speaker 3: when you ramp it up to sixty five, would that

1668
01:37:39,175 --> 01:37:42,535
Speaker 3: then kill it? Or would you there's always the potential

1669
01:37:42,575 --> 01:37:44,215
Speaker 3: that it's a little bit of it's going to stay,

1670
01:37:44,255 --> 01:37:44,575
Speaker 3: isn't it.

1671
01:37:45,495 --> 01:37:48,975
Speaker 7: Yeah? I would I would I just leave well I've

1672
01:37:48,975 --> 01:37:52,655
Speaker 7: got gas now, but yeah, instant gas. But we always

1673
01:37:52,735 --> 01:37:57,095
Speaker 7: used to just leave ours on. Yeah it's if you're

1674
01:37:57,095 --> 01:38:01,455
Speaker 7: going away. Yeah you're using unnecessary power, but that potential

1675
01:38:01,615 --> 01:38:05,135
Speaker 7: risk we were happy to pay for that.

1676
01:38:05,495 --> 01:38:09,095
Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, yes, I think that's the simplest answer, isn't it.

1677
01:38:09,975 --> 01:38:13,135
Speaker 3: You know, why would you take that risk? Because it

1678
01:38:13,175 --> 01:38:17,895
Speaker 3: is that's a terrible disease by all accounts and can

1679
01:38:18,055 --> 01:38:20,855
Speaker 3: make you incredibly sick. Hey, Stuart, I appreciate you sticking

1680
01:38:20,895 --> 01:38:24,095
Speaker 3: around and thanks very much for that. Really appreciate it

1681
01:38:24,215 --> 01:38:27,855
Speaker 3: all the best, Take care then bye way NEWSOKS be

1682
01:38:28,015 --> 01:38:30,935
Speaker 3: open line on all things building and construction. Will carry

1683
01:38:31,015 --> 01:38:33,855
Speaker 3: on the building chat through at all about eight forty

1684
01:38:33,855 --> 01:38:37,055
Speaker 3: five this morning, and just have a slightly shorter chat

1685
01:38:37,095 --> 01:38:39,455
Speaker 3: with a root today. So if you've got a question

1686
01:38:39,495 --> 01:38:42,775
Speaker 3: of building nature, happy to take your calls on that

1687
01:38:42,975 --> 01:38:48,775
Speaker 3: right now. On the whole conversion thing in terms of

1688
01:38:48,935 --> 01:38:54,455
Speaker 3: maybe having an exterior gas califont or a heating system,

1689
01:38:54,655 --> 01:38:57,535
Speaker 3: the question was how long do you think gas is

1690
01:38:57,575 --> 01:39:02,335
Speaker 3: going to be around? And you know, if I bord

1691
01:39:02,335 --> 01:39:04,135
Speaker 3: a house that's got it, will it be around in

1692
01:39:04,095 --> 01:39:07,975
Speaker 3: a fuse time? Well, the official advice from like gas

1693
01:39:08,015 --> 01:39:10,535
Speaker 3: Board and so on is that they expect it to

1694
01:39:10,575 --> 01:39:15,575
Speaker 3: be uninterrupted for up to twenty years, which case most

1695
01:39:15,575 --> 01:39:19,655
Speaker 3: of us sell our houses after five years. Roughly, it's

1696
01:39:19,695 --> 01:39:22,895
Speaker 3: probably not going to be a problem, but that's not

1697
01:39:22,935 --> 01:39:26,375
Speaker 3: saying that there isn't some challenges on the horizon for that.

1698
01:39:26,975 --> 01:39:29,855
Speaker 3: The Texter came through with this six thousand dollars in

1699
01:39:29,935 --> 01:39:34,655
Speaker 3: November to convert a heat pump in savings of four

1700
01:39:34,695 --> 01:39:38,095
Speaker 3: to five hundred kilowatt hours per month. Even though the

1701
01:39:38,135 --> 01:39:41,975
Speaker 3: power rates have increased, our power bills are still one

1702
01:39:42,055 --> 01:39:44,975
Speaker 3: hundred or our energy bills basically one hundred and thirty

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01:39:44,975 --> 01:39:48,015
Speaker 3: to one hundred and seventy dollars per month cheaper. But

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01:39:48,095 --> 01:39:50,615
Speaker 3: the real bonus is lots more hot water. We never

1705
01:39:50,695 --> 01:39:53,855
Speaker 3: run out even with teenagers, so the usage of course

1706
01:39:53,935 --> 01:39:56,495
Speaker 3: is slightly higher than it might be in a household

1707
01:39:56,535 --> 01:40:00,455
Speaker 3: without those particular creatures in the house. Thanks very much

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01:40:00,455 --> 01:40:07,375
Speaker 3: for that, Darren, and I saw the whole thing around,

1709
01:40:07,535 --> 01:40:10,215
Speaker 3: you know, having to this ling thing. Right, so do

1710
01:40:10,255 --> 01:40:13,495
Speaker 3: we go LNG storage? What's that going to cost us?

1711
01:40:13,495 --> 01:40:16,215
Speaker 3: In terms of several billions dollars? This is the proposal.

1712
01:40:18,175 --> 01:40:20,335
Speaker 3: I think a couple of sort of. The energy efficiency

1713
01:40:20,335 --> 01:40:23,335
Speaker 3: groups have said, well, look as the government simply provided

1714
01:40:23,375 --> 01:40:26,735
Speaker 3: a subsidy to allow everyone to go to hot water

1715
01:40:26,855 --> 01:40:29,895
Speaker 3: heat pumps, we would save more energy and it would

1716
01:40:29,895 --> 01:40:35,255
Speaker 3: cost list. It's as simple as that. Oh, one hundred

1717
01:40:35,335 --> 01:40:38,535
Speaker 3: eighty the number to call Peter. Great things to you.

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01:40:39,215 --> 01:40:43,935
Speaker 4: Yeah's good morning, Pete, good morning, and Pete. Indeed, I've

1719
01:40:43,975 --> 01:40:46,215
Speaker 4: got a problem with the house I own. It's a

1720
01:40:46,215 --> 01:40:50,415
Speaker 4: concrete floored house, and the copper pipes that run under

1721
01:40:50,415 --> 01:40:54,095
Speaker 4: it are leaking. Now to what it's not a big league,

1722
01:40:54,135 --> 01:40:57,215
Speaker 4: but previously in the heat covered itself for the hot

1723
01:40:57,215 --> 01:40:59,575
Speaker 4: water smer to cover itself. We've had to jackhammer the

1724
01:40:59,615 --> 01:41:02,415
Speaker 4: floor to repair some of the broken quite well the

1725
01:41:02,575 --> 01:41:06,655
Speaker 4: corroded pipes there. But at the moment, I've had the pain.

1726
01:41:06,735 --> 01:41:09,495
Speaker 4: But anyway, at the moment, the how it's leaking underneath

1727
01:41:09,575 --> 01:41:12,615
Speaker 4: the house somewhere, but we don't know where, and the

1728
01:41:12,655 --> 01:41:14,655
Speaker 4: specialists have been in well the ones I've got, and

1729
01:41:14,695 --> 01:41:17,335
Speaker 4: they can't find it. So I was going to raise

1730
01:41:17,415 --> 01:41:19,735
Speaker 4: the question because I think it looks like a repipe

1731
01:41:19,855 --> 01:41:23,935
Speaker 4: is on. You know, the pipes are over well over

1732
01:41:24,015 --> 01:41:28,815
Speaker 4: forty years old, but it doesn't have a pressure valve

1733
01:41:28,895 --> 01:41:32,135
Speaker 4: a reducing valve in the system. So at the moment

1734
01:41:32,615 --> 01:41:35,095
Speaker 4: it's about seventy eighty percent higher than it should be.

1735
01:41:35,095 --> 01:41:37,535
Speaker 4: I think I forget what the reading was, but it

1736
01:41:37,575 --> 01:41:40,095
Speaker 4: should be maximum of fifty or five hundred, but it's

1737
01:41:40,175 --> 01:41:45,295
Speaker 4: up to about seven eighty. Oh craky, Yes, So anyway,

1738
01:41:45,335 --> 01:41:48,695
Speaker 4: but the question is, sorry, if i'll just fas a question.

1739
01:41:49,495 --> 01:41:49,975
Speaker 9: The question.

1740
01:41:50,455 --> 01:41:53,295
Speaker 4: One question is do I need to repipe or would

1741
01:41:53,495 --> 01:41:57,295
Speaker 4: a reducing valve make any difference possibly to that leak.

1742
01:41:58,735 --> 01:42:02,615
Speaker 3: Certainly I would take the I would go for putting

1743
01:42:02,655 --> 01:42:07,655
Speaker 3: on a pressure limiting or reducing valve, because that seems

1744
01:42:07,695 --> 01:42:11,935
Speaker 3: like a really straightforward first step, doesn't it that potentially

1745
01:42:11,975 --> 01:42:16,775
Speaker 3: the copper in the slab is okay under normal conditions,

1746
01:42:16,815 --> 01:42:23,055
Speaker 3: but if you increase the pressure, and that's what's causing

1747
01:42:23,135 --> 01:42:27,615
Speaker 3: the leaks, so dial back the pressure and then you'll

1748
01:42:27,655 --> 01:42:31,415
Speaker 3: have potentially less opportunity for leaks to be created. So

1749
01:42:31,775 --> 01:42:33,415
Speaker 3: I would do that, And I think, you know, for

1750
01:42:33,495 --> 01:42:35,695
Speaker 3: a lot of us that are in let's say older

1751
01:42:35,735 --> 01:42:40,695
Speaker 3: houses or older as in thirty forty years ago, I

1752
01:42:40,735 --> 01:42:44,775
Speaker 3: think undoubtedly what is happening is that as the infrastructure

1753
01:42:44,815 --> 01:42:48,455
Speaker 3: for the water supply out on the street gets better,

1754
01:42:49,575 --> 01:42:53,855
Speaker 3: pressure is increasing, and if it's unregulated into our houses,

1755
01:42:53,935 --> 01:42:58,775
Speaker 3: it's an unexpected impact on our houses. Right, So systems

1756
01:42:58,815 --> 01:43:01,895
Speaker 3: were designed and it was assumed that the water pressure

1757
01:43:01,935 --> 01:43:04,455
Speaker 3: would always be at this range. If the water pressure

1758
01:43:04,455 --> 01:43:06,895
Speaker 3: in the street is now higher, which it is in

1759
01:43:06,935 --> 01:43:10,255
Speaker 3: some cases, and we haven't taken control of that coming

1760
01:43:10,255 --> 01:43:13,455
Speaker 3: into our own houses, it's not surprising that some of

1761
01:43:13,495 --> 01:43:16,735
Speaker 3: our systems are failing because of the excess of pressure.

1762
01:43:17,055 --> 01:43:19,815
Speaker 3: So having a pressure reducing valve installed, I think would

1763
01:43:19,855 --> 01:43:20,935
Speaker 3: be a really good idea.

1764
01:43:21,695 --> 01:43:25,695
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, yeah, taking that into account, it started about well,

1765
01:43:25,735 --> 01:43:29,255
Speaker 4: the leak was first noticed about four or four months ago.

1766
01:43:30,055 --> 01:43:33,055
Speaker 4: Roughly it's running at about the same level.

1767
01:43:33,655 --> 01:43:35,975
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I guess the other thing. I'm just thinking,

1768
01:43:36,015 --> 01:43:38,175
Speaker 3: in the worst case, let's say you put the valve on,

1769
01:43:38,295 --> 01:43:41,295
Speaker 3: because you'll need one regardless, right, so I would have

1770
01:43:41,415 --> 01:43:43,815
Speaker 3: that done. And then let's say you discover another leak.

1771
01:43:43,935 --> 01:43:46,815
Speaker 3: I suppose the question is how do I reroute my

1772
01:43:47,015 --> 01:43:52,375
Speaker 3: water supply throughout the house and diverted away so new

1773
01:43:52,575 --> 01:43:56,135
Speaker 3: and let can you You'd have to cut through some walls,

1774
01:43:56,175 --> 01:43:58,255
Speaker 3: open up some walls, bring it up. Is there a

1775
01:43:58,335 --> 01:44:01,255
Speaker 3: mid is there a is it single story with a

1776
01:44:01,295 --> 01:44:01,895
Speaker 3: trust roof.

1777
01:44:03,015 --> 01:44:04,455
Speaker 4: Just thanks with the trust root.

1778
01:44:04,575 --> 01:44:08,055
Speaker 3: Okay, so potentially you could get to most of your

1779
01:44:08,095 --> 01:44:11,295
Speaker 3: fittings via the roof. But you know, if you think

1780
01:44:11,295 --> 01:44:16,215
Speaker 3: about finding that supply that comes out of the floor

1781
01:44:16,695 --> 01:44:20,135
Speaker 3: to your bathroom and then having to take that diverting

1782
01:44:20,175 --> 01:44:22,855
Speaker 3: it so that you could take the supply to the

1783
01:44:23,055 --> 01:44:27,055
Speaker 3: mixer from the ceiling space, it's not an inconsiderable amount

1784
01:44:27,095 --> 01:44:29,055
Speaker 3: of work, is it. No.

1785
01:44:29,295 --> 01:44:31,335
Speaker 4: Well, I've had a couple of quite well, I've had

1786
01:44:31,575 --> 01:44:34,175
Speaker 4: three quotes, and they'll come around it, you know, to

1787
01:44:34,215 --> 01:44:37,935
Speaker 4: come and into the house, end up into the sheiling

1788
01:44:38,055 --> 01:44:40,975
Speaker 4: or the roof gap and then dropping down through the walls.

1789
01:44:40,975 --> 01:44:44,335
Speaker 4: About fifteen th sixteen thousand plus.

1790
01:44:44,495 --> 01:44:47,935
Speaker 3: Yeah, it would be, because it's it's you know, you

1791
01:44:48,055 --> 01:44:50,815
Speaker 3: just have to do so much sort of demolition in

1792
01:44:50,935 --> 01:44:53,415
Speaker 3: order to get to all of the places that you

1793
01:44:53,455 --> 01:44:56,335
Speaker 3: need to get to for the pipework. Good luck with it.

1794
01:44:56,375 --> 01:44:58,575
Speaker 3: But I think a pressure reducing valve would be a

1795
01:44:58,615 --> 01:45:02,015
Speaker 3: really good first step. Yeah, all right, thank you, Peter,

1796
01:45:02,135 --> 01:45:05,135
Speaker 3: my pleasure, nice to chat with you. Take care, really

1797
01:45:05,175 --> 01:45:09,055
Speaker 3: good tech with regard. Hey, Pete, read the whole thing

1798
01:45:09,055 --> 01:45:11,735
Speaker 3: around the hot water cylinders. We've got a wee batch

1799
01:45:11,815 --> 01:45:14,295
Speaker 3: which could be unused for several months at a time,

1800
01:45:14,415 --> 01:45:17,895
Speaker 3: So we turn off the exterior to year old hot

1801
01:45:17,895 --> 01:45:19,855
Speaker 3: water cylinder when not in use. Should we leave it

1802
01:45:19,855 --> 01:45:23,495
Speaker 3: on permanently with respect to this lead, Janella, that's a

1803
01:45:23,615 --> 01:45:27,455
Speaker 3: very good question, and I'll try and get a proper answer.

1804
01:45:27,495 --> 01:45:33,495
Speaker 3: I guess I suppose the straightforwards. I can understand why

1805
01:45:33,535 --> 01:45:35,215
Speaker 3: you would, given that you're not there for such a

1806
01:45:35,215 --> 01:45:39,095
Speaker 3: long period of time. And then can you minimize the

1807
01:45:39,255 --> 01:45:43,855
Speaker 3: risk of it developing by when you get there and

1808
01:45:43,895 --> 01:45:46,975
Speaker 3: you turn the cylinder on, that you allow it to

1809
01:45:47,015 --> 01:45:50,695
Speaker 3: get to maximum operating temperature without drawing any water off?

1810
01:45:51,175 --> 01:45:53,775
Speaker 3: Or do you then draw enough water off that you've

1811
01:45:53,815 --> 01:45:55,855
Speaker 3: removed all of the water in the tank and that

1812
01:45:55,935 --> 01:45:58,335
Speaker 3: it's fresh water in the tank and so on. But

1813
01:45:58,375 --> 01:46:01,775
Speaker 3: that's probably a question for a scientist rather than me.

1814
01:46:02,375 --> 01:46:04,495
Speaker 3: But I'll do a bit of research on that one

1815
01:46:04,615 --> 01:46:08,175
Speaker 3: mighty Easter Sunday. We might not be able to get

1816
01:46:08,175 --> 01:46:10,095
Speaker 3: an expert to speak to it on Easter Sunday, but

1817
01:46:10,575 --> 01:46:13,135
Speaker 3: I will put it down as a to do on

1818
01:46:13,215 --> 01:46:18,095
Speaker 3: my already recentably long list of to dos. We'll take

1819
01:46:18,095 --> 01:46:20,655
Speaker 3: a short break now today. As I mentioned Rud's going

1820
01:46:20,655 --> 01:46:22,415
Speaker 3: to join us just for a wee bit of time

1821
01:46:22,455 --> 01:46:24,535
Speaker 3: at the end of the show. We'll explain that in

1822
01:46:24,575 --> 01:46:27,815
Speaker 3: a minute, so we'll take your questions through to around

1823
01:46:27,895 --> 01:46:29,815
Speaker 3: eight forty five. Joe, we'll be with.

1824
01:46:29,735 --> 01:46:33,175
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1825
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01:46:37,175 --> 01:46:41,415
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1830
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