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Speaker 1: I like to welcome to the program Gavin Gray from

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Speaker 1: the UK. Hello, Gevin, Hither Andrew a Palestinian family they

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Speaker 1: used to live in Gaza have now been given the

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Speaker 1: right to live in the UK. It was not easy

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Speaker 1: for them to get that right.

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Speaker 2: No, indeed not, and this is because they applied under

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Speaker 2: a scheme for Ukrainian refugees. I'll explain that in a minute.

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Speaker 2: But the ramification of this is now that this could

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Speaker 2: open up the floodgates form many many more from Gaza

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Speaker 2: to say well, if that case, then we can come

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Speaker 2: to the UK as well. The government has been contesting this.

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Speaker 2: So anyway, the mother, father, and their four children were aged.

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Speaker 2: The children aged between seven and eighteen, were displaced after

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Speaker 2: the home was destroyed by an airstrike in the Israel

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Speaker 2: Hamas War. Now, they applied to the UK using the

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Speaker 2: Ukraine Family scheme because they said there was no other

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Speaker 2: way that they could apply for refugee status in the UK.

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Speaker 2: So they applied under that Ukrainian scheme to join the

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Speaker 2: father's brother who's lived in the UK for seventeen years

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Speaker 2: and is a British citizen. Their application was refused. The

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Speaker 2: Home Office here said that the requirements of the scheme

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Speaker 2: were not met. The family of six have been granted anonymity.

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Speaker 2: They had an appeal dismissed. However, they then went to

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Speaker 2: another appeal and are the Article eight of yes, you

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Speaker 2: guessed it, the European Convention of Human Rights, which protects

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Speaker 2: the right to family life. The judge there decided they

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Speaker 2: should absolutely be allowed to stay in the UK because

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Speaker 2: their lives were at risk. As I said, now we

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Speaker 2: get the government here saying they are going to contest

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Speaker 2: this and other applications that now come in.

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Speaker 1: Okay, interesting, interesting, But it shows a desperation of the

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Speaker 1: Palestinians that they look at a creative way of actually

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Speaker 1: becoming a refugee.

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Speaker 2: Yep, yep, absolutely, and their needs and desperate desires too. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Now tell me about the WhatsApp scandal that's coming

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Speaker 1: out of Mentius.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So this is getting particularly bad for the government.

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Speaker 2: These are all Labor Parties supporters or members or in

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Speaker 2: a couple of cases MPs. The WhatsApp group has shared

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Speaker 2: effectively racist, homophobic, agist comments, particularly unpleasant even about some

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Speaker 2: of those in the Labor Party themselves. One Health minister

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Speaker 2: has been sacked, another MP was suspended after admitting some

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Speaker 2: badly misjudged comments. The hunt has been on from a

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Speaker 2: right wing newspaper to identify the rest of the WhatsApp group.

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Speaker 2: Sounds easy to do, but it's quite difficult if you're

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Speaker 2: not a member of it to work out how to

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Speaker 2: get those other numbers and then work out who those

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Speaker 2: numbers belong to. And now all of a sudden, the

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Speaker 2: Labor Party, which is the party of government here in

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Speaker 2: the UK, has suspended eleven of its own counselors in

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Speaker 2: Greater Manchester as part of this investigation. And it looks

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Speaker 2: like they think they've probably got a lid on it

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Speaker 2: now that this drip drip drip of people coming out

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Speaker 2: as being Labor members, Labor supporters, Labor MPs who are

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Speaker 2: part of this group with these highly offensive messages, Well

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Speaker 2: that's been very damaging for this governor.

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Speaker 1: Yes, well yes, and the Labor patty always prides itself

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Speaker 1: as being at a higher morality wise. But who was

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Speaker 1: it Andrew gwyn got suspended.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right, and he was suspended on Saturday. As said,

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Speaker 2: his comments were badly misjudged. Just to give you an

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Speaker 2: idea in some of the messages that have been revealed.

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Speaker 2: One of those in the group said they hope a

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Speaker 2: seventy two year old woman would soon be dead after

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Speaker 2: she wrote to her local counselor about ben collections.

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Speaker 1: Mister Gwinn, by the way, was a health menurser, so

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Speaker 1: that's not a good look as well. Now the de

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Speaker 1: industrialization of oil in Europe. Now we've been talking about

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Speaker 1: this because of ineos who have withdrawn from wanting to

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Speaker 1: fund allbecks Jerseys. BP says that they are in trouble.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and this is all because they said they were

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Speaker 2: focusing a lot more on green energy and they're rowing

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Speaker 2: back on that now, in line incidentally with other some

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Speaker 2: big energy jants. Last week, the Norwegian energy giant Equanor

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Speaker 2: said it would harve its investment in renewable energy over

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Speaker 2: the next two years while increasing oil and gas production.

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Speaker 2: Of course, Donald Trump famously said the drill, baby, drill

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Speaker 2: when it comes to oil and gas, and now Oil

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Speaker 2: Giant BP, formerly known as British Petroleum, says it will

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Speaker 2: quote fundamentally reset its strategy. With profits dropping sharply. Last year,

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Speaker 2: profits fell from fell to fourteen billion from some roughly

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Speaker 2: twenty two billion the previous year, and It said lower

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Speaker 2: oil and gas prices and lower profits from its refineries

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Speaker 2: had dented how much money it had made. But this

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Speaker 2: is a big change for BP because five years ago

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Speaker 2: it set to target a fifty gigawad of renewables generation

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Speaker 2: capacity by twenty thirty, and we expect that to be abandoned.

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Speaker 2: A major change of strategy to announce at the end

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Speaker 2: of this month, with the company set to scale back

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Speaker 2: massively on its renewables. And as I said, it's not

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Speaker 2: the first big company and it won't be the last,

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Speaker 2: and I think to announce something similar.

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Speaker 1: So to put it in a nutshell, they're making less

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Speaker 1: than they used to make from oil, but they're making

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Speaker 1: even less from the renewables, and so it's a double wemming.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And they're not going to invest as much in

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Speaker 2: the research and into getting that renewable off the ground

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Speaker 2: as they once were. It had set out a commitment

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Speaker 2: of ten billion US dollars in renewables until twenty thirty,

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Speaker 2: and it's expected that they could well announce they're going

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Speaker 2: to have that good stuff.

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Speaker 1: Kevin, I thank you so much for your expertise and

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Speaker 1: your information.

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