1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,120 Speaker 1: Now I was telling you earlier that Wellington Water has 2 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:05,480 Speaker 1: released a list of all of its contractors and turns 3 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:08,160 Speaker 1: out they've spent some money is some pretty interesting places 4 00:00:08,600 --> 00:00:13,120 Speaker 1: on skincare, mindfulness and nutritionists. Pat Doherty is the chief 5 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 1: executive of Wellington Water. Hypat why are you guys spending 6 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:20,160 Speaker 1: money on skincare and nutritionists? 7 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:25,320 Speaker 2: Look, that's about the wellbeing, health and well being of 8 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 2: our staff. It's all part of being a good employer 9 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 2: and looking after them, is it? And look, yes it is. 10 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 2: I mean a good employer these days, good staff are 11 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:40,520 Speaker 2: hard to find. You want to attract them and keep them. Look, 12 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 2: we can't afford to pay compete with some of the 13 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 2: high playing contractors to consultants, so it's important that we 14 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 2: show that we're a caring employer. And sometimes these sorts 15 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 2: of initiatives spread across the number of staff. We have 16 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 2: a cheap at the price I. 17 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 1: Could just run me through it. So what exactly are 18 00:00:57,200 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 1: you spending the money on? At the skincare clinic. 19 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 2: That was skin checks for checking for skin cancer. I 20 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 2: mean a lot of our staff work outside, so that's 21 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:09,480 Speaker 2: just about the welfare of us. 22 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:12,959 Speaker 1: Stuff okay, And the nutritionists. 23 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 2: That was a series of workshops for our off staff 24 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 2: and our depot staff about healthy. 25 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 1: Eating okay, and the mindfulness is just like you just 26 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:26,479 Speaker 1: get the mind for fullness people and to relax your stuff, 27 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:26,679 Speaker 1: do you? 28 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 2: That was a conference workshop fee for some of our 29 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 2: people to go to a mental health awareness as part 30 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:38,120 Speaker 2: of a mental health awareness week. It was a workshop 31 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:41,480 Speaker 2: on it. I mean to put this in context, the 32 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 2: full list of suppliers last year we spent just done 33 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 2: four hundred and sixty six million dollars and the ones 34 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 2: that are attracting attention here we spent a total of 35 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 2: thirty five thousand dollars. I mean, one that was highlighted 36 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 2: was Diving Ski Limited. What are we spending the money 37 00:01:56,960 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 2: there for? Well, that's for swapping up the chlorin bottles. 38 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 2: Are the oxygen bottles? Are operating apparatus that we use 39 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 2: when we're swapping up chlorine drums and our treatment plants. 40 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 2: Not too sixty at all? 41 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:11,960 Speaker 1: Really, Okay, thirty five thousand for how many staff. 42 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 2: Four hundred and fifty. 43 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 1: I'm just getting out my calculated I'm not going to 44 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:18,800 Speaker 1: pretend that I can do that in my brain because 45 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 1: it's about seventy eight bucks per per staff being there. 46 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:25,639 Speaker 1: Look pat for your explanation. Obviously washes and it sounds fine, 47 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 1: But given that you guys are asking for so much 48 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:31,640 Speaker 1: money from rate payers, do you reckon? Rate payers are 49 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 1: going to be thrilled that this is what the money 50 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 1: is being spent on, not on fixing the pipes. 51 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 2: Look, it's frustrating that we should have released these numbers 52 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 2: right from the start and probably wouldn't have atracked for 53 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 2: so much attention. That was an error and they'll be 54 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 2: released very soon. But we have we have been painfully 55 00:02:55,639 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 2: transparent and our shareholders over the last five or six 56 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 2: months acknowledging that we're not getting value for money, but 57 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:06,080 Speaker 2: we'reness savings out that we had is in the money 58 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 2: we spent with our contractors, our consultants and improving our 59 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:12,519 Speaker 2: financial control. 60 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, now listen, speaking at speaking of transparency, how on 61 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 1: earth did you guys lose a report that warned you 62 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 1: four years ago that you had financial troubles. 63 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 2: Well, you appreciate quite a change at the top in 64 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:31,240 Speaker 2: the last last few months. So it was a report that, 65 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:33,359 Speaker 2: to be honest, I didn't know about but have only 66 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 2: been there five or six months. 67 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 1: But the change just happened in the last few months. 68 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 1: This thing was lost for years. 69 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 2: Look that I can't explain. I wasn't there then. But 70 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 2: good thing was some of our stuff pointed it out 71 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 2: to us, and we decided that to be completely transparent, 72 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 2: we would talk about that as well. I mean, that's 73 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 2: what we're trying to do, is here our souls. I 74 00:03:58,720 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 2: can tell you it's not pleasant. 75 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 1: I can imagine. Pet. Thank you, I really appreciate it. 76 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 1: Pat Doherty, Wellington Water chief Executive. For more from Hither 77 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 1: Duplessy Allen Drive, listen live to news talks. It'd be 78 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 1: from four pm weekdays, or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio