1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:01,920 Speaker 1: Police have announced Operation Nicol. 2 00:00:01,960 --> 00:00:04,920 Speaker 2: This is an operation dedicated to enforcing the Gang Patch Band, 3 00:00:04,920 --> 00:00:07,080 Speaker 2: which kicks in next week. They have held and this 4 00:00:07,160 --> 00:00:09,360 Speaker 2: is the police that held hundreds of meetings about it already, 5 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 2: some of those meetings with gangs to discuss the band. 6 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:12,360 Speaker 1: Dennis O. 7 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 2: Riley is a lifetime Black Power member and with us. Now, Hey, Dennis, 8 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:20,760 Speaker 2: have you been at any of these meetings? Yes, And 9 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 2: what happens at the meetings. 10 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:25,440 Speaker 3: Or the police did exactly what they said they did. 11 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 3: They advised people as to what was going to happen 12 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 3: and the approach that they were going to take. I 13 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 3: think it was a pretty good initiative and let's see 14 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:41,559 Speaker 3: how things roll out. I mean, that was under the 15 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:45,559 Speaker 3: leadership of the Commissioner Costa, and he's a man that 16 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:50,159 Speaker 3: you're heavily criticized and said that, you know, he was 17 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 3: politicizing the police. I think what the current minister is 18 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 3: doing is politicizing the police. He's certainly shown as Colors 19 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 3: as a very competent Minister of Emergency Management. So we'll 20 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:06,760 Speaker 3: see how it goes in the police role. So what Dennis, I. 21 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 2: Mean, what I'm kind of confused about is what needed 22 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 2: to be discussed. I mean, surely the thing is the 23 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 2: band kicks in. If the cops see you with a 24 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:16,559 Speaker 2: patch on, they take the patch off you. What else 25 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 2: do people need to know? 26 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 3: Well, I suppose it's when the rules change in a 27 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 3: pretty dramatic way, and so you start to get clarity 28 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:29,399 Speaker 3: if you're wearing it in the car, if you had 29 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:33,039 Speaker 3: a tongue, if you're crossing the road, and all that 30 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:35,680 Speaker 3: sort of stuff. So I mean it's pretty you know, 31 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:41,679 Speaker 3: just a fundamental, good, good sort of exchange. I mean, 32 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:46,120 Speaker 3: the police have invested heavily in this last well since 33 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 3: the since the two hoy raids, and building up a 34 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 3: rapport with pro social gang leaders and to the degree 35 00:01:57,320 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 3: making life as safe for all parties as possible. 36 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 2: So what was the outcome, by the way, Dennis, I mean, 37 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 2: if you're wearing a patch in a car, does it 38 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 2: get taken off here? 39 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:08,919 Speaker 3: Yep? 40 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 1: If you're wearing a patch crossing the road, does it 41 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 1: get taken off here? 42 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:12,960 Speaker 3: Yep? 43 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 2: If you're by yourself, just loan dude on a motorbike 44 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:17,399 Speaker 2: going down the motorway taken off here? 45 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 3: Yep. 46 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:21,080 Speaker 1: Really it's quite hard out. 47 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:23,839 Speaker 3: Well, I mean, it is what it is, and God 48 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:27,639 Speaker 3: damn it. It may work. You know, who knows. It's 49 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 3: a discontinuity. But I'm sort of with you know, mister 50 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 3: Carhill from the Police Association. I mean, you know, we 51 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:41,800 Speaker 3: just don't know what's going to happen, and so you 52 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:47,800 Speaker 3: know we need you know, calm, calm heads and steady 53 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 3: hands and careful words, I think, and let's just see 54 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 3: how this rolls out. 55 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:56,960 Speaker 1: Cool, Dennis, thanks for talking us through. It's a bit unpredictable, 56 00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 1: as as much of politics at the moment. Appreciate at dinner, 57 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:03,839 Speaker 1: So Riley, lifetime Black Power member. 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