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Speaker 1: What a difference government makes. I under labor and we

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Speaker 1: discussed this at length at the time. Basically, literally nobody

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Speaker 1: got tossed out of a cayeing or a house, no

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Speaker 1: matter how bad the behavior got. Under the current government,

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Speaker 1: were up to two hundred and ninety nine tendencies tenancies terminated.

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Speaker 1: It's more than double the one hundred and thirty four

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Speaker 1: last year. So they are moving litigation Lawyer Adena Thorn's

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Speaker 1: with us on this Adena, good morning.

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Speaker 2: Good morning mate.

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Speaker 1: Do you have a sense of two hundred ninety nine

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Speaker 1: Does that solve the problem or barely touches the sites.

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Speaker 2: It's an improvement, It's a significant improvement. I mean we've

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Speaker 2: gone from one to two hundred and ninety nine. Look,

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Speaker 2: I had a lot of people contacting me affected by

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Speaker 2: this for a couple of years, neighbors, next door, across

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Speaker 2: the road, everything, And I did some rough calculations. I

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Speaker 2: thought the figure that needed to be evicted was about

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Speaker 2: one thousand to fifteen hundred and that's based on the

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Speaker 2: number A scale, and it's across New Zealand. I mean,

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Speaker 2: let's be clear. The media like to call this anti social.

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Speaker 2: It's a good political word, anti social behavior. I'm not

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Speaker 2: really talking about antisocial. I'm talking about people doing really

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Speaker 2: egregious violent stuff in housing that is threatening to their neighbors.

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Speaker 2: We're talking machetes in the backyard, people screaming all night.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I've seen the videos. It's all b beep

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Speaker 2: sort of stuff. You know, my kids don't want to

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Speaker 2: be there. You don't want to be there. And I

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Speaker 2: spoke to a lovely old lady who said to me,

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Speaker 2: I can't have my grandchildren vis the thing. They we're

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Speaker 2: talking to, you know, the worst of the worst.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly as a landlord, a kying or simply have

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Speaker 1: they simply been instructed to be better than they are.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think Minister Bishop came out and studio is

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Speaker 2: going to improve the space, and they're game to him

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Speaker 2: because he's doing just that. So I think you're going

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Speaker 2: in the right direction. But there's a lot more to

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Speaker 2: be done. I mean, the conversations that I've had recently

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Speaker 2: is not as many people are contacting me, which is

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Speaker 2: great news. People have said to me that they're actually

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Speaker 2: getting moved rather than their Beachmark's antisocial neighbor. There's a

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Speaker 2: lot of that going on. So it's been a moving

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Speaker 2: the so called antisocial person. They move the people around them,

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Speaker 2: but it's sort of still going in the right direction

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Speaker 2: in terms of the areas. They seem to be still

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Speaker 2: kind of up there. I mean, I've been doing some

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Speaker 2: sort of reading around that and trying to work out

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Speaker 2: an enclayer or is great on rhetoric. They're great at

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Speaker 2: putting out all this spin and it's very hard to

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Speaker 2: drill into what's actually going on. But I'd like to know,

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Speaker 2: you know, are they really genuinely calling up these areas

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Speaker 2: and at what rate per week? And are they cutch

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Speaker 2: having interest or is this just the government department says,

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Speaker 2: oh yeah, we'll chase this actually a dollar a week

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Speaker 2: and you'll be here in twenty six years.

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Speaker 1: Very good point. Actually, we'll follow this up that there's

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Speaker 1: a research and emergency. We'll get that underway with sending

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Speaker 1: our research assistant this morning and we'll produce some numbers

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Speaker 1: for you tomorrow. What the areas are are they getting

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Speaker 1: worsened by how much? Adina Thorn, who's a litigation lawyer.

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