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Speaker 1: Right nineteen past five. Now que musicians are joining the

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Speaker 1: boycott of Spotify and quitting the platform, pulling all their

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Speaker 1: music off it. They say they're not getting paid nearly

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Speaker 1: enough for their art. Tikitane is one of the musicians

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Speaker 1: and with us, Hey, Tikei Curre, how are you well?

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Speaker 1: I'm well, thank you mate? Now is it kay? Is

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Speaker 1: it true? You've only got seventy six dollars since you

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Speaker 1: put Always on my Mind on the platform. That's all

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Speaker 1: you've ever got?

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Speaker 2: No where hear that from?

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Speaker 1: Oh my producer told me that is he telling me?

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Speaker 2: Fibbs seventy six though, like it's it done twenty seven

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Speaker 2: million streams, so that works out to be one hundred

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Speaker 2: and eight thousand dollars. Oh, that's not bad, it's not bad.

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Speaker 2: But then that's fourteen years. And then you've got to

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Speaker 2: take away twenty percent for the aggregator in the accounting,

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Speaker 2: so that takes down about eighty seven thousand. Then you've

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Speaker 2: got to pay tax on that thirty three percent, so

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Speaker 2: that's around fifty seven thousand. So around fifty seven thousand

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Speaker 2: dollars Always on my Mind has maybe in the fourteen years, it's.

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Speaker 1: Been honest it's not enough to live off, is it not?

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Speaker 2: Really? But that's not the point. The point is the

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Speaker 2: platform is rotten, it's corrupt, it's greedy, and they're investing

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Speaker 2: in war tech and it's just not a good place

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Speaker 2: to be.

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Speaker 1: So why are you actually boycotting? Are you boycotting because

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Speaker 1: of all the stuff or is it because of the money?

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Speaker 2: Absolutely? Absolutely, Look, there's about ten reasons why and I

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Speaker 2: could talk to you for an hour about it if

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Speaker 2: you like. But to cut it down, I love music,

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Speaker 2: I love creating music, but I also have to take

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Speaker 2: a stand against corruption, against greed, against war, against murder.

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Speaker 2: So that the easiest thing for me to do to

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Speaker 2: help support that is to take my music off this

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Speaker 2: platform and cancel my subscription and look for platforms that

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Speaker 2: are transparent, are fear and align more of my vibe.

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Speaker 1: Are you not worried though, that there will be a

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Speaker 1: whole bunch of people who will never hear of you

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Speaker 1: and enjoy your music and then spend money coming to

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Speaker 1: see you because they because you Spotify.

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Speaker 2: No, that's the thing. It's you think you will use Spotify,

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Speaker 2: but there's actually a whole culture out there who are

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Speaker 2: anti Spotify. My music's on about nine platforms, and it's

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Speaker 2: doing great on all these other platforms that you just

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Speaker 2: never hear about it. And these other platforms. They these

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Speaker 2: other platforms pay way better. Like Title plays four times

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Speaker 2: more than Spotify title. I'm on YouTube Music, Apple Music,

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Speaker 2: I'm on band Camp, on SoundCloud, I'm on Deezer. It's

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Speaker 2: just there's so many more. Plus I'm looking at other

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Speaker 2: platforms that are really cool to starting up, like Coder.

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Speaker 2: There's also q put. There's also there's another great one.

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Speaker 2: It's it's called Subvert Music. So there's amazing platforms out

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Speaker 2: there who actually care about music, care about artists, and

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Speaker 2: who want to have a fear transparence system. Brilliant.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so you can actually make enough to live off?

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Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely, just not that Spotify. No, you can. It

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Speaker 2: depends what everyone's different. This is a complex situation for everybody.

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Speaker 2: For me, I Spotify just makes up like a tiny

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Speaker 2: piece of the pie. You know. So I've got income

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Speaker 2: coming from playing live, mentoring my you know, the music

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Speaker 2: I make for films, the publishing, doing sound for shape Shifter.

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Speaker 2: So many different sections and income revenue coming from these

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Speaker 2: different places. Now, if you're an artist, that solely relies

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Speaker 2: on Spotify, then it's going to be really hard for

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Speaker 2: them to leave. So there's going to be a big

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Speaker 2: backing for them. So for me, I've spent years building

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Speaker 2: up to this point, building all these other platforms, up

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Speaker 2: my website, and so now's the time. I'm so ready

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Speaker 2: to take my music off and it's super liberating.

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Speaker 1: It feels good, good stuff.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 1: Listen, thank you so much for talking us, Sorro. That's

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Speaker 1: tak Keywa musician.

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