1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,120 Speaker 1: Shane Jones has given quite a fiery speech. This is 2 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:06,000 Speaker 1: the general debate and the House fired up, and he 3 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 1: was taking aim at the Greens in particular. Of course, 4 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:12,479 Speaker 1: he's the Resources and Associate Energy Minister taking aim at 5 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:16,799 Speaker 1: the Greens over well what was essentially Labours oil and 6 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:20,640 Speaker 1: gas band and he's calling out their opposition to using 7 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:21,480 Speaker 1: key we coal. 8 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 2: We can cower up New Zealand by using our domestic 9 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 2: coal resources. But that party would rather see New Zealand 10 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 2: as thrown on the unemployment scrap keep as we've witnessed 11 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 2: this week. They would rather see people cold. They would 12 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:41,879 Speaker 2: rather see people in their retirement years too afraid to 13 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:45,599 Speaker 2: put the jug on or the sleeping blanket, just so 14 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:50,200 Speaker 2: they can cover themselves in an ideological blanket of piety 15 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:51,479 Speaker 2: and self righteousness. 16 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:55,279 Speaker 1: And that wasn't it. That was not scripted. That was 17 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:58,280 Speaker 1: just Shane Jones just going for a healthful leather in 18 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:02,640 Speaker 1: the house. A very enjoyable speech. He's easy to listen to, 19 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:06,480 Speaker 1: his nichechane anyway. He makes a point, doesn't he about 20 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:09,840 Speaker 1: the workers who are being affected by all of the 21 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 1: closures that are happening around the country at the moment. 22 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 1: I flicked off an email to Methanex yesterday because they've 23 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:19,319 Speaker 1: shutted operations at their plant until October, and I just 24 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 1: wanted to check are you definitely going to reopen and 25 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:25,840 Speaker 1: they said yes, we're looking forward to restarting operations in November, 26 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 1: so that is good. But they do say this about 27 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 1: our current electricity system, and I think it just sums 28 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 1: it up. Our highly renewable electricity sector is increasingly reliant 29 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:39,320 Speaker 1: on intermittent renewable power generation, which needs to be supported 30 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 1: by thermal generation to provide energy security when it doesn't 31 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 1: when the rain doesn't fall, the wind doesn't blow, or 32 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 1: the sun doesn't shine. During the last three years, they've 33 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 1: operated at reduced rates or shut plants over high electricity 34 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 1: demand periods during winter to ensure there's enough gas for 35 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 1: everyone to go around. Now this is the interesting part. 36 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 1: While the government has recently signaled positive policy changes like 37 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 1: reversing that offshore oil and Basket gas band, we believe 38 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 1: additional support policies are urgently needed for New Zealand's incumbent 39 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 1: upstream companies such as OMV, Todd and Graymouth to help 40 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 1: improve confidence and enable the development of future gas supplies 41 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 1: to prevent what they call the de industrialization of our economy. 42 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:28,399 Speaker 1: So anyway, we're hoping to have them on the show 43 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 1: actually next week, just for a chat about exactly what 44 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 1: those things are that they want changed. 45 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 2: For more from News Talks B listen live on air 46 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:39,080 Speaker 2: or online, and 47 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 1: Keep our shows with you wherever you go with our 48 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:43,359 Speaker 1: podcasts on IR Radio.