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Speaker 2: And welcome today we dive into health new numbers for

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Speaker 2: you this morning. What it costs this country it's high water?

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Speaker 2: And can Singapore be an investment savior for our infrastructure?

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Speaker 2: Prime ministers and the lads are in the commentary box

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Speaker 2: capturin Field and France Rod Liddle does the UK for

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Speaker 2: us tasking rolling on the short In week seven past six,

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Speaker 2: fresh off the back of the new Labour Prime Minister

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Speaker 2: Sakia Stamer accepting free suits and glasses. But by the way,

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Speaker 2: is it just me? Or is accepting free glasses even

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Speaker 2: weirder than accepting a free suit? Anyway? The deputy leader

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Speaker 2: of the British Labor Party accepted a free apartment in

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Speaker 2: New York, which I can sort of understand a little

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Speaker 2: bit more readily. I mean, you're in New York. A

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Speaker 2: donor says, look, I've got a place in New York.

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Speaker 2: Why't you stay there? You needed a place to stay? Anyway,

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Speaker 2: that sort of makes sense. Whereas most people who need

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Speaker 2: reading glasses, buy them for themselves. Anyway, Clothing's tricky to

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Speaker 2: the extent of spouse gets added to the mix, so

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Speaker 2: you're expected to look a certain way. It's expected you

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Speaker 2: can't turn up looking the same every time, so you

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Speaker 2: need more clothes than normal people. But where's the line

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Speaker 2: between an allowance and simply taking the mickey? MPs aren't

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Speaker 2: paid all that much of course, here or in Britain

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Speaker 2: or in Australia, which is where in Australia they're prime mins.

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Speaker 2: To Anthony Albaneze, he now finds himself in his own

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Speaker 2: hole after revelations over the weekend he organized a bunch

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Speaker 2: of free upgrades on Quantis by allegedly going directly to

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Speaker 2: the then CEO, Ellen Joyce. This was for personal travel

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Speaker 2: for himself and his family. I mean, obviously, as Prime

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Speaker 2: ministery flies at the front of the plane if not

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Speaker 2: on an Air Force jet. But your son travels like

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Speaker 2: anybody else, or they do unless Dad's been on the

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Speaker 2: phone to the CEO. Now, how these people won think

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Speaker 2: this is normal, I've got no idea. And to how

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Speaker 2: they think they'll get away with it is beyond me.

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Speaker 2: Public life these days is transparent you can do nothing

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Speaker 2: without a snitch or a leak or a WhatsApp going Australia.

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Speaker 2: Is it a labour thing? I was thinking to myself

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Speaker 2: over the weekends, A sort of a left wing thing.

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Speaker 2: I mean, how does Starmer and Elbow explain freebies that

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Speaker 2: you and I would Again? How do they defend freebies

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Speaker 2: from an already exalted position? I mean, Becky and Luxon,

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Speaker 2: you've got a begging for doing nothing wrong apart from

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Speaker 2: being successful enough to own a few houses. What would

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Speaker 2: we have done if he'd been upgrading himself or accepting

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Speaker 2: free suits? And Amanda turns up in new I wear

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Speaker 2: paid for by party supporters. Public service once meant serving

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Speaker 2: the public, not using your position to upgrade yourself, whether

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Speaker 2: aviationally or soar to Really.

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Speaker 1: Why news of the world in ninety seconds?

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Speaker 2: Well he to keep coming from the aforementioned British Prime

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Speaker 2: Minister as he lines the country up for some ugly

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Speaker 2: numbers this week in his first budget.

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Speaker 3: If they think that taxes are too high but they

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Speaker 3: don't want to cut public spending, let them tell working

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Speaker 3: people why the lessons of less trust no longer apply.

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Speaker 2: This bloke worked at the Reserve Bank.

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Speaker 4: They chancefers likely to relax borrowing rules to allow more

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Speaker 4: public investment than by the previous government.

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Speaker 2: Into the US rights with the rellies and the advertising

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Speaker 2: of being laid on thick and fast.

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Speaker 5: We will put these vicious and bloodthirsty criminals in jail

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Speaker 5: and to kick them the hell out of our country.

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Speaker 6: As fast as possible.

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Speaker 5: I'm here by calling for the death penalty for any

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Speaker 5: migrant that kills an American citizen or.

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Speaker 7: A law enforcement officer.

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Speaker 2: Hero's appealing to the Puerto Ricans.

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Speaker 8: I will never forget what Donald Trump did and what

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Speaker 8: he did not do when Puerto Rico needed a caring

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Speaker 8: and a competent leader, He abandoned the island, tried to

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Speaker 8: block aid after back to back devastating hurricanes.

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Speaker 2: And Trump let's yesterdize NFL games with edge that lasted

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Speaker 9: We are going to launch a new golden age of

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Speaker 9: American success for the citizens.

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Speaker 10: Of every race, religion, color, and creed.

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Speaker 2: Remember Commaloo broken. President Trump will fix it. That didn't

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Speaker 11: I'm not voting for a candidate, I'm not voting for

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Speaker 11: a policy. I'm voting against a candidate and policies, and

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Speaker 11: not even all the policies, just you know, the unstableness

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Speaker 2: Finally, in a first of its kind, studying scientists have

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Speaker 2: discovered three three connecting black holes. This is in space.

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Speaker 2: They called it black hole triple. Basically, it's a black

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Speaker 2: a half days, while the third star was circling every

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Speaker 2: seventy thousand years, which shows you the strength of the

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Speaker 2: gravitational pull they think. I think it calls into question

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Speaker 2: the theory that all black holes form from exploding stars.

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Speaker 2: Use the world out of worlds, and by the way,

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Speaker 2: it's going to come to win needed always was Elon

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Speaker 2: Musk and as million dollars a day the Department of

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Speaker 2: Justice tried last week and saying this could be a

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Speaker 2: little bit illlegal, but the Philadelphia District Attorney overnight that

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Speaker 2: a day is fairly apparently coming to an end. Twelve

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Speaker 2: Talksb reminder of just how solid the Russian economy is

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Speaker 2: at the moment. The Central Bank over the weekend increase

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Speaker 2: and j I will Andrew kellerher good morning, Hi Mike,

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Speaker 2: how are you? I'm well, thank you, and better than

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Speaker 2: the New Zealand confidence figure, which I thought we saw

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Speaker 12: Yeah, well hope springs eternal, doesn't it make. I've spent

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Speaker 12: So it kind of timely to ponder the vibe of

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Speaker 6: The headline reads back to reality.

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Speaker 12: And I'm about to start a bit of a series

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Speaker 2: But yeah, that.

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Speaker 6: Lift and confidence has stalled.

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Speaker 12: The A and Z Roy Morgan Consumer Confidence Index fell

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Speaker 12: I think the RBNZ just looking into the data, they'll

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Speaker 12: share the fact that consumer inflation expectations are steady. Admittedly,

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Speaker 12: they came in at three point eight, which does seem

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Speaker 12: quite high, but households typically do tend to over state inflation.

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Speaker 12: There was a small lift in house price expectations, and

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Speaker 12: we're now starting to get some sort of different expectations,

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Speaker 12: or some varying expectations of how the housing market is going.

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Speaker 6: To react to lower interest rates next year.

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Speaker 12: If I look across the survey that does appear to

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Speaker 12: be a general tempering of views over the current and

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Speaker 12: future situation. Future conditions in next foul. Perceptions of current

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Speaker 12: personal financial conditions foul. The number of people who think

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Speaker 12: they will be better off next year, Mike fell eleven percent.

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Speaker 12: Now we've spoken a couple of times now about the

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Speaker 12: speed of monetary policy transmission. We think about half of

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Speaker 12: all mortgage holders will benefit from mortgages repricing lower we

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Speaker 12: assume in the next six month. But I'm speculating, Mike,

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Speaker 12: that the prospect of a weaker jobs market may now

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Speaker 12: becoming a little bit more real, and that will be

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Speaker 12: the case of you know, our reality for some time.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 12: We get an update on business confidence later this week,

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Speaker 12: so I'd be fascinating to see if the same things

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Speaker 2: Okay, let's look at the States, big names, big numbers

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Speaker 6: Hang on to your hats, mister Hoskins, strap in.

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Speaker 12: We're heading into a couple of big weeks for offshore

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Speaker 12: financial markets. Firstly, you've got earnings continue to come out

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Speaker 6: Tesla may have given the NASTAQ index a bit of

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Speaker 12: Actually it has held on to those gains overnight. But

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Speaker 12: this week really is crunch week. You've approximately a third

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Speaker 12: of the S and P five hundred companies reporting this week,

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Speaker 12: and you've got the biggies there. You've got Alphabet, that's Google, Apple, Amazon, Meta, Microsoft,

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Speaker 12: On Friday, I attended a presentation in Melbourne from Australia's

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Speaker 12: called Craig Scroggie. He's boss of next DC. Next DC,

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Speaker 12: they're data center operator. He was absolutely convinced that we're

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Speaker 6: But he may be correct, but company valuations in this.

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Speaker 12: Space could be quite volatile till those real outcomes become

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Speaker 12: a little clearer. You've got PCE inflation in the US

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Speaker 12: the first read on third quarter GDP for the US.

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Speaker 12: You've got jobs numbers that sort of book ending the week.

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Speaker 12: That's the central piece of the monetary policy jigsaw puzzle.

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Speaker 12: You've got Bank of Japan, they've got an illustrate decision.

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Speaker 12: Missed all the political upheaval there UK budget though you

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Speaker 12: careering towards what's going to be an absolutely fascinating conclusion.

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Speaker 2: There's a good times for one of the numbers.

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Speaker 6: The dal Jones is up. It's up two hundred and

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Speaker 6: seventy four points. Love that.

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Speaker 12: The S and P five hundred is up twenty one

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Speaker 12: the Nasdaq up ninety one points just under half a

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Speaker 12: eight three three two two. The Aussies they weren't on holiday, yesdoy,

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Speaker 12: they gained ten points eight two to one. We obviously

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Speaker 12: wear the clothes on Friday twelve thousand, seven hundred and

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Speaker 12: point sixty two Japanese end gold Gosh is a story here.

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Speaker 9: Thank you. Also, what is skibbity toilet?

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Speaker 1: The newspakers and the personalities of the big names talk

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Speaker 2: good morning to you, moriendam Mike as an idea.

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Speaker 16: There'd be NEXTRA bank in there. One of them is

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Speaker 2: Explain to us in what way? Because I mean, if

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Speaker 16: They give them capital to try different things. So what

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Speaker 18: A way to do it.

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Speaker 2: But we can't explain why though clear we've just been

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Speaker 16: I can't help you.

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Speaker 2: And by adding another bank, I don't know what it solves.

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Speaker 16: Absolutely so it's really difficult to see in reality what

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Speaker 2: This is excellent. Clear Matthew's, associate professor at Massi University

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Speaker 2: They're down seventeen point eight percent in August and twenty

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Speaker 2: seven percent of September. Is this bad?

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Speaker 9: Yes?

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Speaker 11: It is?

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Speaker 2: Why is it bad? Because we rely on China, which

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Speaker 2: leads you to the Chinese Parliament. So they announced also

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Speaker 2: over the weekend they're having a highly anticipated meeting in

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Speaker 2: next week four through eight. I don't know why they

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Speaker 2: need four days to do it, but nevertheless, four through

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Speaker 2: eight of November, and they're going to be talking about

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Speaker 2: what more stimulus, which is already at trillions of dollars,

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Speaker 2: what more stimulus they can provide the economy. So we

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Speaker 2: watch and wait with a great deal of interest. Seventeen

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Speaker 2: to two.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

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Speaker 2: It'd be Mike, I thought the banking inquiry was kicked

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Speaker 2: after look into the rural banking. It now feels like

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Speaker 2: it's been twisted to accommodate all sectors. You're right, but wrong.

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Speaker 2: It was a general inquiry with an emphasis on rural banking,

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Speaker 2: but you're often running on that subject. It'll come back

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Speaker 2: to it in the moment. Fourteen to two.

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Speaker 19: International Correspondence with ends and Eye Insurance, Peace of mind

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Speaker 19: for New Zealand business right the plants.

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Speaker 2: We go, Captain feel very good morning to you.

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Speaker 20: Good morning Mane.

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Speaker 2: Now the Georgia election interesting, so pro Russia, b po

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Speaker 2: pro EU. It looks like Russia wins.

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Speaker 20: It does look a bit like that, although there are

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Speaker 20: allegations coming from election observers of ballot box stuffing, of intimidation,

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Speaker 20: coercion among voters. I mean, as I'm speaking to Mike

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Speaker 20: with seeing pictures coming home of a big demonstration in

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Speaker 20: the center of the capital Tabilisi, tens of thousands coming

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Speaker 20: out onto the streets. They've been called up there by

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Speaker 20: the President salamezerabash Pheeli, who alleges there were irregularities.

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Speaker 9: In the vote.

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Speaker 20: She actually has come out and said that this was

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Speaker 20: what she described as a Russian special operation. They say

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Speaker 20: that in fact, the ruling party, the Georgian Dream, that

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Speaker 20: Pro Russia party, won only forty percent of the votes.

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Speaker 2: So it's a it's a real worry.

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Speaker 20: Actually for that region because when you look at that region, Mike,

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Speaker 20: you've got so many tensions there. You've got Georgia itself,

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Speaker 20: you know, split between Russia, Iran Turkey, all of them

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Speaker 20: claiming a bit of it. We saw back in what

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Speaker 20: to Russia invaded parts of Georgia, which I said had

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Speaker 20: a big Russian minority living there. There are still UN

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Speaker 20: and EU observers that station there to try and stop

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Speaker 20: more conflict happening there. So it's a real concern that

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Speaker 20: yet again you're seeing on Europe's eastern flank pro Russian parties,

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Speaker 20: oligarch's taking power and question marks over exactly whether or

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Speaker 20: not these were free or fair elections exactly.

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Speaker 2: So the next question is anyone actually, apart from the

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Speaker 2: people on the street, going to do anything about it.

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Speaker 2: And then you come to another election which is in America,

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Speaker 2: and of a certain bloke who was standing in Medicine

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Speaker 2: Square garden yesterday wins. The implications for the EU, I

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Speaker 2: would have thought are enormous.

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Speaker 20: Oh, just absolutely enormous. I mean they have started thinking

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Speaker 20: about this, what about three years ago when former President

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Speaker 20: Donald Trump said that he was going to have another

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Speaker 20: shot at getting back into the White House. What they're

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Speaker 20: looking at is you're actually operating on what he has

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Speaker 20: said rather than what he might do. So what the

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Speaker 20: EU had done already, that's set up a special task force.

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Speaker 20: They're calling it a rapid reaction force that will hit

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Speaker 20: the ground as soon as the winner is announced. They

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Speaker 20: do not expect any changes to wait until inauguration next year.

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Speaker 20: They're expecting that if Trump wins, these changes will happen

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Speaker 20: very quickly. So they've set up this task force. We're

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Speaker 20: already seeing ambassadors, We're seeing people from various countries coming

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Speaker 20: to Brussels to talk about what could happen. So essentially,

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Speaker 20: they're saying that they know that Trump will not defend NATO,

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Speaker 20: particularly what he described as delinquent NATO allies, that is,

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Speaker 20: those that don't pay enough into their coffers to pay

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Speaker 20: for their defense. They're also expecting if he does come

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Speaker 20: to power that there will be immediate across the board

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Speaker 20: tariffs of between ten and twenty percent on imports, so

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Speaker 20: that's what they're looking at. They're also having a very

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Speaker 20: close look at Trump's entourage who would come in, what

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Speaker 20: his policies would be on on defense. Also a lot

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Speaker 20: you know you're also seeing here in France. The French

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Speaker 20: Foreign Ministry is set up as special task force to

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Speaker 20: look at this as well, because I think one of

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Speaker 20: their concerns is Mike that Trump will exploit internal EU divisions,

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Speaker 20: perhaps start picking off certain countries because they know he

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Speaker 20: does prefer bilateral relations rather than relations with these big

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Speaker 20: groupings such as the European Union.

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Speaker 2: Rand insight, Well done, Catherine Ketch up next Tuesday. Appreciate

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Speaker 2: it very much. What you can say about Trump that's irrefutable,

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Speaker 2: of course, is that when he first became president, there

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Speaker 2: were a lot of countries with a NATO that weren't

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Speaker 2: paying their way. America pays over three percent of GDP,

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Speaker 2: whereas most of the countries didn't play the two percent

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Speaker 2: they said they would pay. And now if you look

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Speaker 2: at the number of countries paying the two percent plus.

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Speaker 2: As a direct result of his basically pointing the finger

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Speaker 2: and say pull it out and get on with it.

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Speaker 2: He can claim the victory in that department. I would

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Speaker 2: have thought turn away from seven.

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Speaker 1: Cost breakfast with Bailey's.

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Speaker 2: Mike, using your argument, might as well sell qubank altogether

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Speaker 2: and then simply mind about the Australian banks, Bruce. I

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Speaker 2: don't care whether you sell it or not, float it,

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Speaker 2: turn it upside down, spank it. I don't care what

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Speaker 2: the argument is that the banking system's broken. This is

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Speaker 2: what the government will tell you. It's broken. They're robber barons.

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Speaker 2: We're being fleeced to paraphrasemus ire don and I'm saying

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Speaker 2: I don't see any evidence of it. There are thirteen

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Speaker 2: commercial banks in this country and go borrow money from

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Speaker 2: How many do you want? Fourteen, sixteen, seventeen, fifteen? When

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Speaker 2: does the problem get solved? Supply and demand Mike, more

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Speaker 2: competition means better rates? No, it doesn't a according to

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Speaker 2: the government. I mean, we've got plenty of banks. I've

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Speaker 2: just told you thirteen banks. How many do you want

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Speaker 2: for the better rates? If you had fourteen? Material improved Mike,

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Speaker 2: banking problems are in the eye of the declinent. It's

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Speaker 2: probably something in that Mike, Qbank doesn't lend and operate

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Speaker 2: in the commercial market, which is risky but more lucrative.

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Speaker 2: Not an unfair point, Mike. Is it just me or

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Speaker 2: does some of the rhetoric emanating from Trump and his

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Speaker 2: campaign remind you of dyr Men in his prime. I

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Speaker 2: watched Mediicine Square Garden yesterday. I watched the report last

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Speaker 2: night on the television. I'm a reporter who queued for

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Speaker 2: four hours, queued for four hours to arrive eventually after

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Speaker 2: the four hours, three hours early, so that's seven hours gone,

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Speaker 2: and then watch the two hours of whatever you call

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Speaker 2: that ensue, So nine hours. Who's got nine hours? For

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Speaker 2: goodness sake? A Fox reporter I watched when it was incredible,

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Speaker 2: it was electric, and then the other reporter I watched

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Speaker 2: said the crowd started to turn out and was low energy.

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Speaker 2: So which was it was electrical? Was it low energy?

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Speaker 2: I found it unbelievably boring, just saying five minutes away

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Speaker 2: from seven, the ins and the outs.

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Speaker 1: It's the fears with business fiber take your business productivity

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Speaker 1: to the next level.

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Speaker 2: It was opened by Rudy Giuliani who's a crook, Elon's

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Speaker 2: an idiots and Donald Trump. I mean, Malanie was probably

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Speaker 2: the highlight. And what she's doing with him, I got

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Speaker 2: no idea. The NFL is counting its popularity at the moment,

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Speaker 2: like so many American sports, They've got a new streaming partner.

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Speaker 2: It's an immersive technology company called COSM. They broadcast live

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Speaker 2: events using what they call shared reality. So they use

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Speaker 2: a three sixty degree dome, giant twelve k led screens

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Speaker 2: to make it feel like you are in the stands

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Speaker 2: watching the game. So each venue seats about seven hundred.

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Speaker 2: Tickets start at twenty two for the back one twenty

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Speaker 2: seven for the front row. They do it with college

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Speaker 2: games a lot of premier football as well. Deal means

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Speaker 2: they'll be able to broadcast all the Thursday night football

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Speaker 2: games on Amazon, the Sunday night games on NBC, some

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Speaker 2: of the games on Fox, and every game Monday Night

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Speaker 2: football on ESPN. Earlier this year, COSM raised a quarter

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Speaker 2: of the billion to expand and one of the fastest

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Speaker 2: growing broadcast partners, with deals already with the NBA, the UFC,

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Speaker 2: the ESPN, NBC, TNT, Fox, and Amazon. They've also got

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Speaker 2: some exclusive rights to the Olympics. So investors say they're

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Speaker 2: going to be the number two places to go for

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Speaker 2: for a sport event beside the venue itself. It's that real.

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Speaker 2: You believe it's that real? Or just because they tell

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Speaker 2: you it's real. Is the banking system broken or have

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Speaker 2: they just told you it's broken? We got some new

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Speaker 2: numbers around health, lads and the commentary box after rights.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of sport, by the way, my highlight of the

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Speaker 2: weekend last week in how we were waxing lyrical about

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Speaker 2: how it was the greatest sporting weekend ever. I think

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Speaker 2: this weekend beat it and beat it by some considerable margin.

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Speaker 2: And my favorite sporting moment, I was just fizzling with

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Speaker 2: excitement because it had never happened in the history of

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Speaker 2: the event ever, So history was literally made in front

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Speaker 2: of my eyes while I was watching it live. It

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Speaker 2: was incredible. Anyway, more later Health Crunch a few numbers

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Speaker 2: for you. The numbers around health are just either eyewatering,

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Speaker 2: order pressing, or both. Shane Rettick is next the Breakfast.

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Speaker 1: Show You Can Trust The Mic Hosking Breakfast with Bailey's

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Speaker 1: Real Estate your local experts across residential, commercial and rural

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Speaker 2: Be bullying seven past seven. So it's some fascinating new

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Speaker 2: numbers for you this morning to explain just how Gargantu

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Speaker 2: and our health services Health New Zealand employees eighty two thousand,

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Speaker 2: eight hundred full time equivalent stuff. That's one point five

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Speaker 2: percent of the entire population. One on every thirty members

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Speaker 2: of the workforce in this country works for health. The

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Speaker 2: cost of all that's thirty billion. Big question Treasury is

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Speaker 2: trying to answer is is it funded adequately? The Health

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Speaker 2: Minister Shame retties with us on the Shame morning to you.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, money mate, now much.

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Speaker 2: I think that line from the Prime Minister a couple

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Speaker 2: of months ago, thirty billion is enough. Do you stand

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Speaker 2: by that?

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Speaker 9: You so do, as you've heard from the commissioner. It's

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Speaker 9: just that we're funded enough, we're just not spending it well.

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Speaker 9: I mean put that in context. Every health system in

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Speaker 9: the world would like to have more funding, as would

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Speaker 9: I but for the key services we need to deliver,

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Speaker 9: as you correctly pointed out, for the biggest organization in

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Speaker 9: New Zealand, probably one of the top six between Australia

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Speaker 9: and New Zealand, it's a big organization and so thirty

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Speaker 9: billion will help those deliver cour services.

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Speaker 2: Is it so Gargantua and Nolan's quite got a handle

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Speaker 2: on its totality.

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Speaker 9: Oh, that's a very good point, and I think the

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Speaker 9: answer that would be yes, that's what happens when you

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Speaker 9: throw twenty DHBs together on short notice in the middle

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Speaker 9: of the pandemic. How did we think that was going

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Speaker 9: to play out? You know, that's the structure we've got. That,

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Speaker 9: that's the cards we've got. We've just got to play

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Speaker 9: them really well. But yes, it is a big entity.

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Speaker 2: And when you look at the size of the entity

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Speaker 2: serving five million people, does it seem too big?

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Speaker 9: Look, that's something that as you'll be aware of, the

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Speaker 9: Commissioner's working on with the statements we've made around how

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Speaker 9: we're going to get back to fiscal stability, around reducing

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Speaker 9: some of that back office because it is just too big.

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Speaker 9: I think after that would be a yes, it probably

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Speaker 9: is too big, but we've probably had people in the

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Speaker 9: wrong places our front line. Clearly, we've got some vacancies

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Speaker 9: we need to fill, and we have some positions in

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Speaker 9: the back office that we.

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Speaker 21: May not need so much.

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Speaker 2: The Treasury suggest it could cost us ten percent of

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Speaker 2: GDP by twenty sixty one Is that too much?

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Speaker 9: Is that a worry again in that context that you

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Speaker 9: could fill health with as much as you'd like to

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Speaker 9: give it. We want to be wise users of taxpayers money.

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Speaker 9: If we look at where we position in the OECD

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Speaker 9: for the amount we spend on GDP, we generally sit

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Speaker 9: in the middle. We box above our weight.

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Speaker 2: But of course you'd always like more this Treasury stuff.

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Speaker 2: I'm reading this morning's top down, bottom up? Do we

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Speaker 2: trust Treasury? The Treasury actually know what they're doing or

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Speaker 2: we're just just throwing darts boards here?

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Speaker 9: Oh, Treasury are very detailed, particularly around budget time, very

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Speaker 9: detailed around what postings might be if they start a

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Speaker 9: year out, if not further. And so the bottom up

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Speaker 9: was Health New Zealand approximation and the top down was

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Speaker 9: Treasury's approximation and it adds with most budgets this summer

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Speaker 9: meeting in the middle.

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Speaker 2: All right, appreciate time, Shane Retty. Here's the Health minister.

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Speaker 2: The details are the final details. There's some very good

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Speaker 2: work done by Thomas Coglin in The Herald this morning

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Speaker 2: if you want to watch. But I mean some of

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Speaker 2: these numbers, I mean thirty billion one in thirty seven,

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Speaker 2: you know, one point five percent of the entire population

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Speaker 2: eighty three thousand. It's a city. It's a city, and

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Speaker 2: a reasonable size city of people who work for health

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Speaker 2: in New Zealand. And still we sit there going, oh,

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Speaker 2: you can't get access to what doctor ten past seven

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Speaker 2: from the Good Ideas Department. The suggestion over the weekend

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Speaker 2: from Shane Jones not less that Singapore wants in on

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Speaker 2: some of our foreign investment for infrastructure. We want their money,

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Speaker 2: they want our food security. Seems simple. Queen City Laws.

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Speaker 2: Marcus Beveridge specializes in foreign investment and he's well, this Marcus,

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Speaker 2: morning to you mining make has it hanging very well.

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Speaker 2: I was a little bit surprised about all of this,

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Speaker 2: and I thought we were close with Singapore. They're an

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Speaker 2: entrepreneurial sort of city. They've got to carve out with

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Speaker 2: a foreign investment. I would have thought we'd be into

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Speaker 2: this already sort of floated as a new idea. Seems

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Speaker 2: weird to me.

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Speaker 5: Well, what about the exquisite irony of Shane and Winston

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Speaker 5: out there promoting this when they're the sort of reds

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Speaker 5: under your beds and Japanese submarines and the harbor guys.

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Speaker 5: I mean, look, fantastic idea. The Singaporeans have been big

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Speaker 5: players in our commercial property market for a long time,

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Speaker 5: but getting them to invest into our infrastructure is a

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Speaker 5: novel and really good idea.

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Speaker 21: But whether we can pull it off or not, I'm

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Speaker 21: not so sure.

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Speaker 2: What would do.

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Speaker 14: Well.

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Speaker 5: Thirty years ago we tried to get to Mussak, the

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Speaker 5: investment arm of their government, to invest in an internationally

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Speaker 5: important Taupo, which sounded like a great idea at the time,

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Speaker 5: but it didn't really happen. I think the problem is

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Speaker 5: reputationally at the moment, despite our regulatory framework being probably

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Speaker 5: considered attractive, we're not seen as a positive jurisdiction to invest.

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Speaker 21: In at the moment.

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Speaker 2: Wouldn't that be changing given that Peters is out there

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Speaker 2: every second day beating the drama and Luxin is not

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Speaker 2: far behind him.

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Speaker 5: Our hats off to Winston for doing that. But I

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Speaker 5: think we're sort of seen as the lawless West at

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Speaker 5: the moment. There's not so much the Aussie criminals. It's

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Speaker 5: probably more the Kiwi criminals. We've we've also with immigration,

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Speaker 5: we've damaged some relationships there. We had a client who

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Speaker 5: has two hundred and fifty million dollars worth of hotels here, employees,

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Speaker 5: five hundred kiwis and just he was decked around by

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Speaker 5: bureaucrats and Wellington and pulled the plug. So, I mean,

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Speaker 5: it's a great idea they've got. I was trying to

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Speaker 5: work out what their investment fund is. It actually equates

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Speaker 5: for about five hundred thousand million New Zealand dollars, but

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Speaker 5: they're shrewd investors and I don't know. I mean, if

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Speaker 5: you look at the underground railway, it should have taken

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Speaker 5: two years and cost two billion dollars and it's sort

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Speaker 5: of ten years later and getting close to ten billion.

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Speaker 5: I think, Leekon you would be turning in his grave.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, that's a very good point. So what you're

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Speaker 2: saying is one you need to get across the hurdle

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Speaker 2: reputational damage. If you get across that hurdle, you then

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Speaker 2: put your money into the country to watch a bunch

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Speaker 2: of road cones hold up everything and blow out at

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Speaker 2: twice the price. So we've got to fix that as well.

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Speaker 13: Well, see it. I mean that's it.

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Speaker 5: And yeah, so that whole governance around projects and how

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Speaker 5: we get stuff done efficiently. Yeah, it's you know, they're

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Speaker 5: not stupid and so yeah, there's a real politic thing

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Speaker 5: to deal with there. But the idea that Shane Jones

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Speaker 5: has is a great idea.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it is all right, Marcus, appreciate the insight. We'll

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Speaker 2: talk to the Prime Minister about it shortly. Marcus Beverage,

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Speaker 2: who's with Queen City Law. Mike, you didn't answer the

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Speaker 2: question how's it hanging. It's hanging as it always does.

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Speaker 2: Thirteen past seven, Paski, Mike, if it was cosm you

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Speaker 2: were talking about. My friends just watched Arsenal v. Liverpool

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Speaker 2: in Fort Worth, Dallas. So there you go. That's what

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Speaker 2: That's what they're into. The population. By the way, new

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Speaker 2: stats out on Friday from the Stats Department of all

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Speaker 2: the people coming to the country, of which there were

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Speaker 2: ninety three thousand, five hundred and increasing the population, half

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Speaker 2: of them park themselves in Auckland. So the gap between

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Speaker 2: Auckland and the rest of the country in terms of

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Speaker 2: population growth is continuing to grow. So ninety three thousand arrived,

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Speaker 2: spread themselves around the country, but forty four of those

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Speaker 2: ninety three parked themselves in Auckland. Why Kato's second strongest

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Speaker 2: growth region in the country, are Nelson the slowest. Fourteen past.

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Speaker 2: past seven other chapter in the evolving AI story, We've

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Speaker 2: got new research that suggests E waste could increase a

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Speaker 2: thousand times in five years. This is a study from

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Speaker 2: Nature Computational Science blames AI. Hardware becomes increasingly worthless, creating

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Speaker 2: as many as five million tons of the stuff. Ecotechnology

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Speaker 2: Patrick Moyner and who's with us? Mine?

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Speaker 17: Good morning, Mike.

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Speaker 2: No worries at all the numbers they talk of a

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Speaker 2: thousand times increase AI. Do any of this? Does any

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Speaker 2: of this sound real or accurate?

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Speaker 17: There's a few parts of us, Mike. So general electronic

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Speaker 17: waste now that's growing at sort of twelve thirteen percent

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Speaker 17: aggregated compounding growth per year. But to do with generative AI.

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Speaker 17: Potentially that has the opportunity to grow by a thousand

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Speaker 17: times And.

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Speaker 2: What if they're right? What are we going to do

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Speaker 2: about that?

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Speaker 17: Well, businesses like ours, like echo gear it up to

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Speaker 17: be able to receive, process and recycle or find the

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Speaker 17: partners to recycle and recover this kind of material. But

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Speaker 17: it is growing at an absolute greater Nott, would you.

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Speaker 2: At the stage describe the industry as being able to

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Speaker 2: deal with what you deal with and therefore you'll be

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Speaker 2: able to scale up or not.

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Speaker 17: Internationally, there's a number of businesses that have fit their

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Speaker 17: model to kind of meet the demand of this kind

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Speaker 17: of material, But you're dealing with these absolute juggernauts of

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Speaker 17: businesses like Nevada. They just as of yesterday became the

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Speaker 17: most valuable business in the world. So it's people can

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Speaker 17: deal with it, but it's it is a little bit

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Speaker 17: of a hand in glob situation and so kind of

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Speaker 17: continue to fight the battle. Figure out how to process

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Speaker 17: this kind of material, what sort.

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Speaker 2: Of model these commercial models? In other words, you can

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Speaker 2: make money out of doing this or does it need

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Speaker 2: to be subsidized?

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Speaker 17: This in particular to do with generative artificial and intelligence

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Speaker 17: and say AI is a higher value material, so it's

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Speaker 17: graphics processes, CPUs, power supplies and things. So there is

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Speaker 17: money money from the material, but general awaye televisions, appliances,

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Speaker 17: that sort of thing. It's usually a cost to the consumer.

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Speaker 2: All right, Patrick appreciator Patrick Moyner and Echo Technology. See

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Speaker 2: there's a new Zealand startup that's based themselves in America

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Speaker 2: called lists Assist. Speaking of AI, it's an AI tool

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Speaker 2: natural language queries on housing. So you go, hey, AI,

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Speaker 2: I'd like to find all the houses that have four

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Speaker 2: bedrooms three bathrooms, live around the corner from the dairy

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Speaker 2: and within three hundred meters of a school, and it

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Speaker 2: will go bing bing bing bing bing. Now, there's a

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Speaker 2: massive problem with this that no one seems to have

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Speaker 2: thought of. But I'll have more shortly seven twenty.

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Speaker 2: Sp Well, if you're a business leader, you're always looking

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Speaker 2: better decisions? One way is to harness the AI, of course,

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Speaker 2: but how do you access AI safely and securely? So

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Speaker 2: grizzly ai can help you come up with more innovative ideas.

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Speaker 2: So this is one Net. It's grizzly Ai. They are

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Speaker 2: innovation leaders since the year two thousand, Bosking Rodo seven

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Speaker 2: twenty three. Part of our long weekend was spent buying

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Speaker 2: three presents for three teachers that our youngest deemed necessary

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Speaker 2: to thank them for the work and energy that they

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Speaker 2: put into her final year at school. And buying teachers

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Speaker 2: gifts has become a little bit of a thing. If

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Speaker 2: you didn't realize this and our experience of modern schooling,

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Speaker 2: I mean I didn't buy my teacher teachers a present.

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Speaker 2: I don't remember anyone else doing it either. Chocolates and

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Speaker 2: bottles of wine seemed to be the go to these days.

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Speaker 2: The worst example I've witnessed over the years was a

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Speaker 2: teacher telling her class how excited she was to receive

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Speaker 2: all her gifts later on that weekend. Not to forget obligations.

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Speaker 2: One thing deserving of it is entirely another. So in

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Speaker 2: the three cards, our daughter explains just what it is

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Speaker 2: the teachers have contributed to her final year, and in

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Speaker 2: those words is the reminder that there are those who

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Speaker 2: make difference in our education systems. See for all the

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Speaker 2: coverage that schooling gets, most of it isn't good the

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Speaker 2: kids who don't turn up, the kids that do and fail,

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Speaker 2: the teachers. It can't be bothered, the results that shock

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Speaker 2: us all. But like so much of the news, sadly,

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Speaker 2: it doesn't paint the true picture or anywhere close to it.

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Speaker 2: Unlike the headlines. For example, most kids are actually fine

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Speaker 2: and they do well, And amid the myriad of teachers

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Speaker 2: on strike or unionized and miserable are the ones that

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Speaker 2: young people's lives. Now I'm not sure if it's representative,

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Speaker 2: but in our case, all three teachers are young women

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Speaker 2: about the same age, maybe late twenties, early thirties, experienced

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00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:36,320
Speaker 2: enough to have a handle on what they're doing, but

869
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 2: not too experienced to have become jaded. They are loved

870
00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:42,319
Speaker 2: not just by our daughter, but all the students whose

871
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:46,320
Speaker 2: lives they touch. Our daughter can very clearly articulate just

872
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 2: how she has benefited by having them in her life

873
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:53,800
Speaker 2: and education. They're all enthusiastic, they're all available above and beyond.

874
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:58,400
Speaker 2: They all have tangibly improved the outcome of their students. Basically,

875
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:02,120
Speaker 2: they are rock stars, and they are a reminder that,

876
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:04,440
Speaker 2: like so much in life, the bad news is but

877
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:08,799
Speaker 2: a small portion of the real story. Asking now there's

878
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 2: business of AI with this company. Look, I list assist.

879
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:14,320
Speaker 2: I wish them well. The reason they're based here, but

880
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:16,040
Speaker 2: they're going to America is of course, if you look

881
00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 2: at the number of houses in America. But here's the difference.

882
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:23,440
Speaker 2: So what they're saying is just say it and the

883
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:25,839
Speaker 2: AI will find it for you. So instead of going

884
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 2: to one roof and typing in three bedrooms two bathrooms,

885
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:32,839
Speaker 2: you know, price between one million and one point three

886
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:37,040
Speaker 2: million and go search. You just say that and it

887
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 2: will solve a problem for you. The obvious extension to

888
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:43,640
Speaker 2: me for AI would be that you can basically bespoke

889
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:47,440
Speaker 2: your house. But the problem with bespoking your house is

890
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:49,719
Speaker 2: and a lot of people aren't seem to have work

891
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 2: this out yet. AI is only as good as the

892
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:57,359
Speaker 2: information at control, and if the information at control isn't

893
00:43:57,400 --> 00:44:00,160
Speaker 2: that good, then its response is never going to be

894
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:02,480
Speaker 2: any better than it is, so you're never going to

895
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 2: be able to go I'd like all blue houses with

896
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:08,719
Speaker 2: four bedrooms, three bathrooms, three hundred meters or less from

897
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:11,360
Speaker 2: a school with at least half of those bathrooms with

898
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 2: gold taps, one bath tub, and a range shark head.

899
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:17,560
Speaker 2: Because of it less, of course, the real estate agent

900
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:22,240
Speaker 2: has tagged that information specifically in each and every listing

901
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:25,680
Speaker 2: that they do, which they are never going to. Therefore

902
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:28,839
Speaker 2: AI will never know it's there. Therefore AI will never

903
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:32,920
Speaker 2: be smart enough, sharp enough to get the listings and

904
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:34,960
Speaker 2: the details in which you need. And no one seems

905
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:38,480
Speaker 2: to understand that. But it's just another version of what

906
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:40,920
Speaker 2: we already have. We somehow think it's going to just

907
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:44,320
Speaker 2: change the world, and I suppose in certain areas it

908
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 2: may well or at least has the potential to do so.

909
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:50,880
Speaker 2: But in basic applications like this, unless you feed it

910
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:54,440
Speaker 2: appropriately in the first place, it will never regurgitate what

911
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:57,560
Speaker 2: it doesn't have. And it's not bright enough, nor will

912
00:44:57,600 --> 00:45:00,920
Speaker 2: it ever be bright enough to invent the regurgitation. And

913
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:05,600
Speaker 2: second guess you as humans all with it. And I

914
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 2: suppose that is the quandary, isn't it? Prime Minister's next.

915
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Speaker 1: Big News Bold Opinions the Mic Hosking Breakfast with al Vida,

916
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Speaker 1: Retirement Communities, Life Your Way News, togs head Bow.

917
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:24,279
Speaker 2: Twenty three minutes away from Mate commentary, Bogs being the

918
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:26,080
Speaker 2: shortened week of course, Andrew several guy I had dealt

919
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:27,840
Speaker 2: with us after away the clock. Meantime, the Prime Minister

920
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:30,759
Speaker 2: is Willison the studio. Very good morning to you. Yeah,

921
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:33,600
Speaker 2: did anything tangible come out of childhream?

922
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 9: Yeah?

923
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:35,560
Speaker 22: Look, I mean it was the first chog on we're

924
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:38,279
Speaker 22: held on the Pacific apart from being in Australia and

925
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:41,600
Speaker 22: New Zealand. Pretty interesting group actually, fifty six countries, most

926
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:44,400
Speaker 22: of them small island developing states. And really it was

927
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:46,880
Speaker 22: the Arpa Ocean's Declaration and one of the big features

928
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:49,920
Speaker 22: of that was that actually recognizing the sovereignty of the

929
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:53,480
Speaker 22: current eess that exists around these island nations and if

930
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:56,040
Speaker 22: they deal with the future of sea rise and we

931
00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 22: don't want those EZ shrinking. And so that actually was

932
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 22: quite a good win to put out there on the record,

933
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Speaker 22: I think, which was good good outcome.

934
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:03,839
Speaker 2: What does that even mean? None of that made sense

935
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:05,480
Speaker 2: to me. What it means is on a piece of

936
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Speaker 2: plate you got climate change about the ocean signed chrysopal accident.

937
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:10,480
Speaker 22: Now what it means is like if you're a place

938
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Speaker 22: like Tavalu, which is in the next one hundred years

939
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 22: worst case scenario, probably ninety percent of the Adohl sort

940
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:19,960
Speaker 22: of underwater, then actually its historic border is respected and

941
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 22: as a result, it's EZ which has its opportunity for

942
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:26,640
Speaker 22: fishing rights. Its economic zone around the islands as actually

943
00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:28,799
Speaker 22: maintained as it currently is today, not as it would

944
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Speaker 22: be in the future if the worst case happens.

945
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:34,759
Speaker 2: Okay, the slavery question that Kyostarama was particularly exercised about,

946
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:38,040
Speaker 2: did that go anywhere? Will it go anywhere? Do you think?

947
00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:38,439
Speaker 17: Well?

948
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 22: The key thing was to push it out of Chogham frankly,

949
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:43,320
Speaker 22: because it's a peculiar UK Caribbean issue that needs to

950
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:45,359
Speaker 22: be dealt with by them. In a conversation, I think

951
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:49,960
Speaker 22: they plan to do a UK Caribbean dialogue next year,

952
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:53,040
Speaker 22: but it was really pushed out of Chogham so that

953
00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:55,759
Speaker 22: the Brits and the Caribbean can deal with it directly. Okay, yeah,

954
00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:57,960
Speaker 22: because really you want Chogham to be about democracy, you

955
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:01,360
Speaker 22: want it to be about actual development. But for me

956
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:03,239
Speaker 22: it was a good opportunity to meet, you know, leaders

957
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:04,759
Speaker 22: from Africa and the Criban who I don't get a

958
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:07,360
Speaker 22: chance to see that much, but effectively could build some.

959
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:09,120
Speaker 2: Relationships to have a future cham.

960
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:10,160
Speaker 23: Yeah, I think it does.

961
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:12,360
Speaker 22: I think it has to be focused back on development

962
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 22: and democracy, you know, strengthening against democratic institutions, building the

963
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:21,120
Speaker 22: capacity of public services and developing states, getting rid of corruption.

964
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:23,520
Speaker 22: Those kinds of things I think are important.

965
00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:26,040
Speaker 2: Okay. So Shane Jones, he's been in Singapore. He comes

966
00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:28,440
Speaker 2: back this sort of surprised me that we haven't thought

967
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:30,279
Speaker 2: about this or done anything about it before. So his

968
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:33,040
Speaker 2: argument is they've got plenty of dough and they want

969
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:36,600
Speaker 2: to invest in infrastructure good. They also want food security.

970
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:38,640
Speaker 2: I'm assuming we can do something along those lines, why

971
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 2: hasn't that been stitched up signed off?

972
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:42,800
Speaker 22: Well, it is actually so promised to Lee and promise

973
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:44,759
Speaker 22: to Wong, and I've spoken about that where we're moving

974
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:47,400
Speaker 22: through what we call an enhard strategic partnership, which is

975
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:49,839
Speaker 22: building our relationship to Singapore to the next level. Next

976
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:52,200
Speaker 22: year will be our sixtieth anniversary, and that's exactly right.

977
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:55,719
Speaker 22: The Singaporeans are really concerned about food security, and I'm

978
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:58,160
Speaker 22: really concerned about supply chain certainty. So if you think

979
00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:01,240
Speaker 22: about oil coming through single poor coming into New Zealand,

980
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:04,240
Speaker 22: I would want protection of that, and they'd want protection

981
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:07,759
Speaker 22: and more, more and more security around their food. The

982
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:09,640
Speaker 22: other thing is that every time I go off Sure,

983
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 22: I spent about two hours meeting with groups of investors

984
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 22: asking for the good, the bad, and the ugly of

985
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:17,759
Speaker 22: investing in New Zealand. And my big takeaway is that

986
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:19,960
Speaker 22: actually they're open to investing in New Zealand, they just

987
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:22,759
Speaker 22: don't know what's here to invest in. I'm very open

988
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:25,439
Speaker 22: to taking foreign direct investment into the country because we're

989
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:28,359
Speaker 22: the lowest in the OECD. We've slipped to thirty eight

990
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:30,920
Speaker 22: out of thirty eight, and we need that to get

991
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:33,440
Speaker 22: knowledge transfer into our companies, but also the capital that

992
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:35,160
Speaker 22: we desperately need for infrastructures.

993
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:38,239
Speaker 2: Reputationally, we're trouble. We had an investment. Guys, we're doing

994
00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:40,399
Speaker 2: this for thirty years on the prayer, he said, reputationally

995
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:42,279
Speaker 2: where we're not well looked well.

996
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:44,239
Speaker 22: I think the reality is I've looked at us in

997
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:47,160
Speaker 22: recent years and said it's too slow to get anything

998
00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:50,960
Speaker 22: done in New Zealand. It's actually you don't welcome capital

999
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:53,360
Speaker 22: like other countries. Do you say it's a privilege to

1000
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:55,839
Speaker 22: invest here versus thank you for coming and spending your

1001
00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:59,080
Speaker 22: money and make the investment and just management manage our

1002
00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:01,319
Speaker 22: risks versus Actually, these days they've got to say it's

1003
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:02,160
Speaker 22: a privilege.

1004
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:02,040
Speaker 23: To being here.

1005
00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:03,759
Speaker 22: Now, let me justify why my investment's going to be

1006
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:06,160
Speaker 22: good for New Zealand, so that the mindset's are wrong

1007
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:08,960
Speaker 22: on the investment. And also, we haven't been a country

1008
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:12,640
Speaker 22: that's been using this big sovereign wealth funds pension funds

1009
00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:15,359
Speaker 22: for actually doing public infrastructure, which is what we're doing

1010
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:18,239
Speaker 22: with the National Infrastructure Agency that we're creating. So all

1011
00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:20,200
Speaker 22: of those messages say, look, I'm open to investing in

1012
00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:21,839
Speaker 22: New Zealand, but I just don't know what's here.

1013
00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:24,000
Speaker 23: And I think, can you turn that round?

1014
00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:24,319
Speaker 21: Yeah?

1015
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:25,440
Speaker 23: I can, because I think what I.

1016
00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:28,000
Speaker 22: Have to do is present a deal sheet essentially of

1017
00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:31,040
Speaker 22: the different assets that we are up for investment from overseas,

1018
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:33,640
Speaker 22: and then make that very explicit to the investors and

1019
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:36,359
Speaker 22: actually get them down here to see them, to show

1020
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:36,960
Speaker 22: them what's here.

1021
00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:39,560
Speaker 2: The other thing they said to or told me this

1022
00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:41,600
Speaker 2: morning was once they get here, they look at the

1023
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:44,120
Speaker 2: CRL and go call big hole in the ground that's

1024
00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:47,400
Speaker 2: three times over budget and years like, how do we

1025
00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:48,319
Speaker 2: fix that? Yeah?

1026
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:50,360
Speaker 22: Well, I mean that's where the fast track and the

1027
00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:53,960
Speaker 22: consenting stuff is really serious. I mean the consenting stuff

1028
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:56,960
Speaker 22: has doubled in time and time is money, you know, and.

1029
00:49:57,760 --> 00:50:00,840
Speaker 23: Also you know the laws. And I spoke to a guy.

1030
00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:02,720
Speaker 22: Who wants to build a data center in New Zealand

1031
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:05,560
Speaker 22: and was he said, Chris, I love your country. He says,

1032
00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:07,359
Speaker 22: where I go, they make it easy for me because

1033
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:08,960
Speaker 22: they want a data center here. It's probably half a

1034
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:11,520
Speaker 22: billion dollars worth of investment. But he said, I'm dealing

1035
00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:14,359
Speaker 22: with an Auckland Council volcanic cone.

1036
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Speaker 23: View issue by laur and I don't know what that is.

1037
00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:20,319
Speaker 22: And I said to mate, Yeah, that exactly underscores the point,

1038
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:22,080
Speaker 22: which is if you are a project of regional and

1039
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:24,800
Speaker 22: or national significance, which is where we started with the

1040
00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:27,239
Speaker 22: fast Track to try and break the system, and what

1041
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:29,480
Speaker 22: we try and shrine next year with the full system

1042
00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:31,279
Speaker 22: is you know, we've got to be able to get

1043
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:32,520
Speaker 22: through this stuff and get things.

1044
00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:35,080
Speaker 2: I'm very glad you raised data centers because once they

1045
00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:36,879
Speaker 2: arrive here and we do want to be a center

1046
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:39,040
Speaker 2: for data centers, how is it we're running them with power?

1047
00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:40,920
Speaker 23: Yeah, well that's a major challenge.

1048
00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:44,399
Speaker 22: No, No, as in twousand Sydney and I think there's

1049
00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:46,919
Speaker 22: two data center projects there that they're proposing to build

1050
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:48,920
Speaker 22: in the next five years that will take up one

1051
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:52,880
Speaker 22: hundred percent of Sydney's electricity today. So that's why you know,

1052
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:56,960
Speaker 22: we've got twenty two fast track resource renewable energy projects

1053
00:50:57,040 --> 00:50:58,280
Speaker 22: in the fast Track legislation.

1054
00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:01,560
Speaker 23: But that is the current electricity.

1055
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:03,160
Speaker 2: I mean, we're not building what are we doing? We're

1056
00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:05,760
Speaker 2: building wind mills, are we building farms? Are we building

1057
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:07,799
Speaker 2: all of the above? All of the above? Why don't

1058
00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:08,480
Speaker 2: we go nuclear?

1059
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:11,879
Speaker 22: Well that's not something that well, we've got abundant natural

1060
00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:13,520
Speaker 22: resources we just haven't even tried to.

1061
00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:15,160
Speaker 2: Do what we've know. Let me, let me give you

1062
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:17,840
Speaker 2: the argument. So you look at Google and Microsoft and Oracle.

1063
00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:20,520
Speaker 2: What are they doing. They're doing deals with three Mile Island.

1064
00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:23,760
Speaker 2: They're building their own nuclear reactors. Why because you cannot

1065
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:24,640
Speaker 2: rely on rain?

1066
00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:26,279
Speaker 23: Yep, no, I hear you.

1067
00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:29,240
Speaker 22: But I also know that we've got abundant natural resources,

1068
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:30,880
Speaker 22: and we haven't done the job that we should be

1069
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:32,560
Speaker 22: able to do with the resources that we've already got.

1070
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:37,040
Speaker 2: So we can build enough wind mills, and enough solar panels,

1071
00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:41,640
Speaker 2: and enough dams, yeah with gas, with some gas to

1072
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:43,880
Speaker 2: run any number of data center. I think when we

1073
00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:46,400
Speaker 2: can't turn the lights on in the middle of winter.

1074
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:48,160
Speaker 23: Well that's but I just say to you, that's why

1075
00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:49,640
Speaker 23: we've got to properly go through.

1076
00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:51,799
Speaker 22: I mean, we're in a perverse situation which took us

1077
00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:54,040
Speaker 22: eight years to consent to win farm, two years to

1078
00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:56,320
Speaker 22: build it. That should be a one year consenting. We

1079
00:51:56,360 --> 00:51:58,120
Speaker 22: should get the benefit within three years and then we

1080
00:51:58,160 --> 00:51:59,799
Speaker 22: can move on. You know, that's one hundred and thirty

1081
00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:02,239
Speaker 22: furs and houses. You know, the particular farm I was

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Speaker 22: thinking about one hundred and thirty thousand houses. Actually all

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Speaker 22: the energy needs met through off you know, through.

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Speaker 2: Your argument and really simple terms. We can do it renewably. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: without nuclear. Nuclear is not on the table in an ocular.

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Speaker 2: But what we can do is we do a hell

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Speaker 2: of a better job than what we've been doing. Because again,

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Speaker 2: if you're sitting in Singapore, you've got one hundred and

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Speaker 2: ninety five countries to invest that sovereign wealth superannuation money.

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Speaker 2: And if you're sitting in Korea or Japan with the

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Speaker 2: other places you know I've spoken to as well, they've

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Speaker 2: got so much money. Yeah, I sat down in a

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Speaker 2: meeting of five Japanese bankers. You know, they immediately had

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Speaker 2: like probably three hundred and fifty billion dollars to invest,

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Speaker 2: just and a lot of it.

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Speaker 23: They would love to send this part of the world.

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Speaker 23: They just don't know what's here.

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Speaker 22: I met with the Katari Prime Minister for four hours

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Speaker 22: and just said, he's got a Katari investment fund. We

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Speaker 22: would love their money. He said, it came through here.

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Speaker 22: You know, seven years ago, Sauce I couldn't find anything

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Speaker 22: to invest in. I said, we'll come back. You know,

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Speaker 22: let me let me get you the deal sheet of

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Speaker 22: what I think. You know, you might want to make

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Speaker 22: investments making essence, what.

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Speaker 2: Are you going to do with the QWI bank?

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Speaker 22: Look, I mean what we've said is the banking set

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Speaker 22: does not competitive. The competition is not good because consumers

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Speaker 22: are paying for it with higher prices. We've now got

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Speaker 22: this inquiry going on through the Finance and expenditu Committee

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Speaker 22: that will roll through, but we need Kerey Bank to

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Speaker 22: actually be fired up as the maverick as it's been

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Speaker 22: talked about.

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Speaker 2: You're going to float it, well, we're going to get.

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Speaker 22: A bunch of investment options that Nicolas asked the Treasury

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Speaker 22: to give her. Has giving you the options. One of

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Speaker 22: the options is floating well, I haven't seen the advice

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Speaker 22: yet to float it. Yeah, well, one of the options

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Speaker 22: could be to put some into the New Zealand Stock Exchange,

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Speaker 22: other ways in which you could get super funds or

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Speaker 22: other other funds to invest in its favor. I don't

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Speaker 22: have a view until I see that advice. Mike, I

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Speaker 22: know that's not the answer you want.

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Speaker 2: Tell no premature until here's my main point. My point

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Speaker 2: is keep your bank tomorrow, so you sell it off,

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Speaker 2: tell me materially how it changes the banking landscape of

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Speaker 2: this country.

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Speaker 22: Well, I think a more capital growth into care We

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Speaker 22: Bank so that it actually can compete wronger. It makes

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Speaker 22: them bigger, but also makes them be able to compete

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Speaker 22: very strongly for that business. I think there's other things

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Speaker 22: that we're going to need to do well with the banking.

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Speaker 22: But let's get through some of this inquiries.

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Speaker 2: Because I'm following this inquiry with a great deal of interest.

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Speaker 2: I listened to Antonio last week. She's fantastic, so she

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Speaker 2: who was a perfectly coach and argument. I thought, I mean, yes,

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Speaker 2: they make a lot of money, but there are a

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Speaker 2: big bank, so that the other four major banks so

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Speaker 2: to keep. If Keywi Bank was floated tomorrow, it would

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Speaker 2: become a bigger bank. There'd be five big banks. How

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Speaker 2: does that fix anything?

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Speaker 22: No, I just I think, you know, the reality is

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Speaker 22: we've got four We've got four cozy banks and a

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Speaker 22: very cozy relationship and.

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Speaker 2: Has shaken stop.

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Speaker 22: And here's an example, an open banking for example, it's

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Speaker 22: something that's going to.

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Speaker 2: Have you Have you read the documentation in Australia on

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Speaker 2: open Yeah, yea, but it looks no different.

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Speaker 22: But the point is it's been left with the banks

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Speaker 22: to manage amongst themselves. That open banking piece rather than

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Speaker 22: actually that regulation coming from a different place. And I

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Speaker 22: think you know people, you know, they don't move banks easily,

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Speaker 22: but actually if you made it much easier to do so,

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Speaker 22: you would when you leave it to the bank, it

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Speaker 22: does not their interesting changed.

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Speaker 2: You've not convinced me that we've got some sort of

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Speaker 2: robber barons scenario in this country where everyone's getting ripped off.

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Speaker 2: I mean, and if you could, that's fantastic, because I

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Speaker 2: don't care. I just don't see what floating selling doing

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Speaker 2: anything to Kiwi Bank profoundly changes the marketplace.

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Speaker 22: I think in a market like New Zealand where you

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Speaker 22: end up defaulting to one or two players, two players

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Speaker 22: or in this case four, that actually anything that promotes

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Speaker 22: there's actually fifteen retail there's actually eighteen banks and the

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Speaker 22: four majors. Yeah yeah, yeah, but they but they're not

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Speaker 22: you know, we need to make sure they're capitalized in

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Speaker 22: a way that they can actually compete very strongly. And

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Speaker 22: I do think capital which capitalized they get out into

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Speaker 22: the rural sector. Do you think suddenly materially the escape

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Speaker 22: of the rural I think ki Bank and I think

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Speaker 22: that's one of the big observations. If you take rural

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Speaker 22: banking for example, you know many of our farmers have

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Speaker 22: been put under huge amounts of pressure by their banks.

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Speaker 22: They end up having to run a much higher interest

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Speaker 22: rates than we do in the cities. The resonsequence because

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Speaker 22: the risk, I get it, but actually I think many

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Speaker 22: of them would want to change to someone who had

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Speaker 22: actually back them more.

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Speaker 2: Give me a timeline and when this is happening.

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Speaker 22: Well again, what we're getting is advice coming back from

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Speaker 22: Treasure about the options around KIEMI banking capital. I think

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Speaker 22: we'll have a conversation in cabinet as planned for in

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Speaker 22: the month of December.

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Speaker 2: Okay, good to see. I apprecious Prime Minister Christopher lux

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Speaker 2: Than thirteen two.

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Speaker 1: GOO the Mike Hosking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio

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Speaker 2: B Iceland's done a four day week trial and it

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Speaker 2: works the public service. Between twenty twenty and twenty twenty two,

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Speaker 2: fifty one percent of the workers in the country had

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Speaker 2: accepted shorter working hours, unemployment rates one of the lowest

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Speaker 2: in Europe. Shorter working hours become widespread throughout the country now,

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Speaker 2: so two large trials twenty fifteen to twenty nineteen, public

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Speaker 2: sector employees worked thirty five thirty six hours a week

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Speaker 2: instead of forty, so it's not really a four day week,

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Speaker 2: but it's heading towards a four day week. No reduction

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Speaker 2: in pay for that. Many had previously worked the forty

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Speaker 2: hours trials in above two and a half thousand people.

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Speaker 2: They said productivity increased as a result of that. They

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Speaker 2: moved to a four day week. So they've got more

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Speaker 2: economic growth in the EU than most other countries in

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Speaker 2: the EU, and they're working fewer hours and they get

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Speaker 2: the same party and all as well in the world

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Speaker 2: of Iceland, So maybe that four day week is on

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Speaker 2: to something. Mike, my daughter's tutor group got their teacher

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Speaker 2: a seven hundred dollars massage about so that's not a

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Speaker 2: bad gift. Just going back to gifts as we were

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Speaker 2: before seven thirty this morning. Mike, Singapore wanted wanted in

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Speaker 2: here fifteen years ago. I lived there for seven years

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Speaker 2: as an investment banker, tried on several projects. Resource consents

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Speaker 2: and lackabee wee buy in were required basically and killed

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Speaker 2: it too difficult. Well, hopefully the Prime Minister depressed and

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Speaker 2: listened with the Prime Ministers not him personally, but you

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Speaker 2: know the attitude that we've had to foreign investment in

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Speaker 2: this country and the way we've treated people, and hopefully

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Speaker 2: they can turn it around in a relatively short period

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Speaker 2: of time.

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Speaker 1: Ate away from eight the Mic Hosking breakfast with al

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Speaker 1: Vida Retirement Communities news togs had been.

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Speaker 2: Bonny Mike scant media coverage of Ginny Anderson's sexist attempt

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00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:49,640
Speaker 2: to shame the king and his suit trousers on its own.

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Speaker 2: It's just a silly mistake. But Jinny asked Mark Mitchell

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Speaker 2: how many people he killed. Genny was accused by two

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Speaker 2: teenage volunteers of bullying, all in the space of twelve months.

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Speaker 2: Crickets from the Usually Offended. I don't know whether there

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Speaker 2: was an coverage around at the weekend. Was it one

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Speaker 2: of those stories. It's the question I would ask, is

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Speaker 2: what do you reckon's wrong with? There's something you know

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Speaker 2: some people just have a thing about them whereby trouble

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00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:16,720
Speaker 2: follows them, or they're a magnet for trouble of some description.

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Speaker 2: And I think the text is very good by itself, dumb,

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Speaker 2: but not the end of the world. Cumulatively, you start

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Speaker 2: to ask a few questions after a while. She also

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Speaker 2: blamed on this program. Wasn't just Mark Mitchell how many

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Speaker 2: people he killed? But on this program she blamed Luxel

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00:58:31,960 --> 00:58:35,680
Speaker 2: for running in New Zealand into trouble I think three

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Speaker 2: times when he did nothing of the sort, and when

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Speaker 2: he was in charge of me in New Zealand, they

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Speaker 2: didn't run into trouble at all. There's just something about

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Speaker 2: some people that they either shoot from the lip without thinking,

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Speaker 2: or they do random stuff, or they don't have a

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Speaker 2: radar that goes. If I do this, if I like

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Speaker 2: this particular social media post, what are the implications for

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Speaker 2: me as a public figure of reasonable high standing within

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Speaker 2: the nation's opposition party? Or don't I think about them?

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Speaker 2: It's just the weirdest thing, isn't it. Anyway. She's on holiday,

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Speaker 2: which makes it even weirder because I would have thought

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Speaker 2: she'd be off doing something useful instead of liking posts.

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Speaker 2: So she won't be with us on the program tomorrow,

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Speaker 2: but Kira MacNulty will, So he'll be drawing the short

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Speaker 2: straw when I ask what's wrong with Ginny Anderson news

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Speaker 2: for you?

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Speaker 1: Then we'll get into the sport, your trusted source for

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Speaker 1: news and Fews, the Mic Hosking Breakfast with the Range

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Speaker 1: Rover Villa designed to intrigue.

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Speaker 2: Can use togs d B.

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Speaker 14: Sprung room it.

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Speaker 2: Is no room.

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Speaker 7: No, that's that crowd.

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Speaker 24: Many go well, it's a live is twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 24: That title is yours, absolutely outstanding and.

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Speaker 13: That is the full time.

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Speaker 25: In Yokohama sixty four nineteen, For only the third time

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Speaker 25: in fourteen Constellation Cup Series, New Zealand win the silverware

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Speaker 25: with a game Despair, A Game Despair, A Constellation Cup

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Speaker 25: is coming home first.

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Speaker 1: The Monday Morning commentary barks on the Mike Husking Breakfast

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Speaker 1: with Spears Finance supporting Kiwi businesses with finance solutions for

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Speaker 1: over fifty years.

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Speaker 2: Go held Andrews have both well us fellows, Good morning,

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Speaker 2: Good Michael, right here we go for you guy. The

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Speaker 2: highlight of the weekend sporting wise, for you was.

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Speaker 18: What it's tied at the top the black Cats winning

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Speaker 18: a Test series in India for the first ever at time,

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Speaker 18: which was just incredible and I think ranks probably up

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Speaker 18: there with them beating Australia in a series for the

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Speaker 18: first time in what eighty five eighty six and James

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Speaker 18: McDonald winning the Cox plate on board via Sestina. That

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Speaker 18: was a very special moment and winning is one hundredth

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Speaker 18: Group one, which I know you will probably not really

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Speaker 18: care about, but it's a significant achievement for Diet thirty

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Speaker 18: two years.

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Speaker 17: Well.

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Speaker 2: I know James a very very very likable guy.

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Speaker 21: Yep.

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Speaker 18: I was going to say, I don't know if you've

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Speaker 18: ever had him on your show, but he'd be a

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Speaker 18: great person for you to get for fifteen twenty minutes.

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Speaker 18: He's a fantastic talker and he's had a very interesting

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Speaker 18: life and he is just a phenomenal jockey.

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Speaker 2: He's a very nice guy. What about you, Andrew? What

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Speaker 2: was what was fizzing?

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Speaker 21: I have to say the Black Cats might first and foremost,

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Speaker 21: given that ripped through India four times in India with

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01:01:37,760 --> 01:01:41,160
Speaker 21: their bowling maybe once or twice on a tour that

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01:01:41,320 --> 01:01:46,680
Speaker 21: happens in India, and the fact that that first Test

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01:01:46,880 --> 01:01:50,880
Speaker 21: win wasn't a fluke, and also the fact that Mitchell

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01:01:51,000 --> 01:01:55,480
Speaker 21: Santana pretty much a part time spinner takes what was

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01:01:55,480 --> 01:01:56,880
Speaker 21: it twelve thirteen wickets.

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01:01:56,600 --> 01:01:57,080
Speaker 13: For the match.

1302
01:01:57,320 --> 01:02:00,440
Speaker 21: Quite extraordinary. Silver Thirds have done very well against Australia

1303
01:02:00,480 --> 01:02:01,560
Speaker 21: that's come out of the blue.

1304
01:02:02,960 --> 01:02:04,760
Speaker 2: Do you have any insight into what's happened. Last time

1305
01:02:04,760 --> 01:02:06,920
Speaker 2: I checked in with these Silver Ferns, they were but useless.

1306
01:02:07,560 --> 01:02:10,120
Speaker 21: They lost to England in that series at home recently,

1307
01:02:10,360 --> 01:02:14,560
Speaker 21: and then all all indications were that they were going

1308
01:02:14,600 --> 01:02:16,120
Speaker 21: to get something by the Aussies. All of a sudden

1309
01:02:16,120 --> 01:02:18,680
Speaker 21: they had this camp, deep and meaningful camp. I think

1310
01:02:18,720 --> 01:02:20,560
Speaker 21: it was in Hawke's Bay for four or five days.

1311
01:02:21,120 --> 01:02:23,680
Speaker 21: Some home crews were delivered and then next thing they

1312
01:02:23,760 --> 01:02:25,480
Speaker 21: go in and beult the Aussies in three games to

1313
01:02:25,960 --> 01:02:29,920
Speaker 21: win by some of those margins in Australia.

1314
01:02:30,480 --> 01:02:33,120
Speaker 2: Does it say anything about Australia and all Australia but

1315
01:02:33,200 --> 01:02:34,760
Speaker 2: weak on it. It's just nolan I.

1316
01:02:34,760 --> 01:02:37,720
Speaker 21: Thought Australia was strong. I thought all the indications were

1317
01:02:37,920 --> 01:02:40,520
Speaker 21: that Australia still at the top of the netball tree

1318
01:02:40,560 --> 01:02:42,240
Speaker 21: and that they were very, very strong. The Silver Fans

1319
01:02:42,240 --> 01:02:43,040
Speaker 21: weren't going to get close.

1320
01:02:43,600 --> 01:02:44,320
Speaker 2: It was just Nolane.

1321
01:02:45,040 --> 01:02:48,560
Speaker 21: A third highlight surely was Liam Lawson flipping the bird.

1322
01:02:49,360 --> 01:02:50,880
Speaker 4: That was that.

1323
01:02:51,040 --> 01:02:53,280
Speaker 2: That was as far as a race. If you watched

1324
01:02:53,320 --> 01:02:57,720
Speaker 2: the whole race, yeah, I mean, you cannot not love

1325
01:02:57,880 --> 01:03:00,840
Speaker 2: if one. It was phenomenal from one end of the

1326
01:03:00,880 --> 01:03:03,520
Speaker 2: field to the other it was high drama and there

1327
01:03:03,560 --> 01:03:06,720
Speaker 2: were so many stories and it was just absolutely brilliant

1328
01:03:07,160 --> 01:03:08,120
Speaker 2: and amazing.

1329
01:03:08,240 --> 01:03:12,840
Speaker 21: How through when a season is one side of when

1330
01:03:13,000 --> 01:03:15,840
Speaker 21: estapends leading by heaps, nothing really happens in races or

1331
01:03:15,880 --> 01:03:20,720
Speaker 21: there's very very very little fan fear or controversy. Now

1332
01:03:20,880 --> 01:03:23,360
Speaker 21: every second lap there seems to be time penalties. It

1333
01:03:23,400 --> 01:03:25,880
Speaker 21: seems to be guys being pushed off the track, this

1334
01:03:26,120 --> 01:03:27,200
Speaker 21: incident after incidents.

1335
01:03:27,240 --> 01:03:31,600
Speaker 2: Fantastic, and you see how panicked Red Bull are with

1336
01:03:31,760 --> 01:03:34,080
Speaker 2: what's going on. They're our third in the constructors. And

1337
01:03:34,200 --> 01:03:36,120
Speaker 2: that's why I think that you're probably going to see

1338
01:03:36,200 --> 01:03:39,280
Speaker 2: Perry is jettisoned out sooner rather than later, because they'll

1339
01:03:39,280 --> 01:03:42,240
Speaker 2: be asking themselves who can get us points canned Lawson?

1340
01:03:42,720 --> 01:03:45,320
Speaker 2: Yes or no? Is it a risk? Yes? Is it

1341
01:03:45,400 --> 01:03:46,600
Speaker 2: any worse than what we've got?

1342
01:03:46,840 --> 01:03:46,880
Speaker 7: No?

1343
01:03:47,480 --> 01:03:47,520
Speaker 15: No?

1344
01:03:48,200 --> 01:03:50,840
Speaker 21: Yeah, Today I would imagine there were images of him,

1345
01:03:51,120 --> 01:03:54,520
Speaker 21: There were images of him being spoken to by Christian Horner,

1346
01:03:54,600 --> 01:03:56,720
Speaker 21: or going into a meeting, which normally happens after a race.

1347
01:03:56,720 --> 01:03:59,520
Speaker 21: Week it anyway, but I would imagine outwardly, yes, Lee,

1348
01:03:59,600 --> 01:04:01,160
Speaker 21: and you don't want to do that again. But how

1349
01:04:01,200 --> 01:04:04,800
Speaker 21: we've I'd imagined inwardly in that camp. We're saying, Liam,

1350
01:04:04,880 --> 01:04:05,880
Speaker 21: you're you're a racer.

1351
01:04:06,120 --> 01:04:06,800
Speaker 2: Couldn't agreement.

1352
01:04:06,840 --> 01:04:08,760
Speaker 21: You're giving it. You're giving it to the old guys.

1353
01:04:08,800 --> 01:04:09,640
Speaker 21: As it's fantastic.

1354
01:04:09,760 --> 01:04:11,960
Speaker 2: Keep doing what you He's stuck it right up Alonso

1355
01:04:12,120 --> 01:04:14,560
Speaker 2: and Peirez in two weekends in a row. That that

1356
01:04:14,680 --> 01:04:17,320
Speaker 2: shows real gonuts for a young guy trying to.

1357
01:04:17,520 --> 01:04:18,280
Speaker 21: How do you drive?

1358
01:04:18,440 --> 01:04:20,640
Speaker 2: But three hundred k and our take your hand off

1359
01:04:20,680 --> 01:04:21,280
Speaker 2: the wheel.

1360
01:04:21,360 --> 01:04:24,040
Speaker 21: Take your right hand general and slip the bird out

1361
01:04:24,040 --> 01:04:24,360
Speaker 21: the leap.

1362
01:04:27,880 --> 01:04:31,160
Speaker 2: I've driven quite a lot at two fifty sixty, and

1363
01:04:31,280 --> 01:04:34,520
Speaker 2: that to me is like gob smackingly fast and I

1364
01:04:35,000 --> 01:04:37,560
Speaker 2: am not doing anything other than holding on for your life.

1365
01:04:37,600 --> 01:04:39,840
Speaker 2: So how he does that? I got no idea.

1366
01:04:40,280 --> 01:04:43,520
Speaker 21: And having grown up on having for Liam grown up

1367
01:04:43,560 --> 01:04:47,480
Speaker 21: on the streets, that's nothing. The bird's nothing right exactly,

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01:04:48,320 --> 01:04:49,520
Speaker 21: that's just HI, how you doing?

1369
01:04:50,640 --> 01:04:53,080
Speaker 18: They leave him out? So they leave Liam Lawson out

1370
01:04:53,360 --> 01:04:56,120
Speaker 18: to help the step and get back through. Was that

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01:04:56,760 --> 01:05:00,880
Speaker 18: because that seemed like a terribly bad technical era. He

1372
01:05:01,040 --> 01:05:03,160
Speaker 18: was out for so long when it was obviously you

1373
01:05:03,240 --> 01:05:04,640
Speaker 18: needed to go on the pets because.

1374
01:05:04,440 --> 01:05:06,280
Speaker 2: His car was well, well, it was out the same

1375
01:05:06,360 --> 01:05:08,240
Speaker 2: They ran the same sort of strategy. The week before,

1376
01:05:08,240 --> 01:05:10,640
Speaker 2: you remember, on the hard tires, and so they're trying

1377
01:05:10,680 --> 01:05:12,440
Speaker 2: to work out what when you put the mediums on,

1378
01:05:12,520 --> 01:05:14,200
Speaker 2: and how long the mediums last and all that sort

1379
01:05:14,240 --> 01:05:15,440
Speaker 2: of stuff and whether you're going to be in the

1380
01:05:15,480 --> 01:05:18,200
Speaker 2: points and stuff like that, and so he was not

1381
01:05:18,360 --> 01:05:19,880
Speaker 2: going to be in the points. You got to remember,

1382
01:05:19,960 --> 01:05:21,920
Speaker 2: even at his best point, he was before all the

1383
01:05:21,960 --> 01:05:24,400
Speaker 2: pit stops, he was about twelfth, so as chances of

1384
01:05:24,440 --> 01:05:26,440
Speaker 2: him getting to the top team were relatively slim so

1385
01:05:26,800 --> 01:05:28,520
Speaker 2: and then of course color Pinto came along and it

1386
01:05:28,600 --> 01:05:32,240
Speaker 2: all sort of fell apart. You guys haven't asked me

1387
01:05:32,320 --> 01:05:33,960
Speaker 2: what my highlight of the weekend support was.

1388
01:05:34,440 --> 01:05:36,240
Speaker 21: Oh Mike, what was your highlight?

1389
01:05:36,520 --> 01:05:37,080
Speaker 2: I had to take a.

1390
01:05:37,120 --> 01:05:38,520
Speaker 21: Break the one.

1391
01:05:39,000 --> 01:05:42,200
Speaker 2: No, it's not more shortly, Guy held Andrew Sevil thirteen past.

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01:05:47,920 --> 01:05:51,120
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1395
01:05:52,400 --> 01:05:55,880
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01:05:56,040 --> 01:06:00,080
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Speaker 2: Guy, are you exercised?

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Speaker 21: Can I take a punt?

1400
01:06:05,200 --> 01:06:05,320
Speaker 2: Yes?

1401
01:06:05,400 --> 01:06:05,640
Speaker 13: You can?

1402
01:06:06,400 --> 01:06:06,960
Speaker 2: You can and.

1403
01:06:09,080 --> 01:06:10,640
Speaker 21: I'll take the punt, and this guy I would say

1404
01:06:10,680 --> 01:06:17,080
Speaker 21: please bit responsibly. Yeah, well it was either that Hong

1405
01:06:17,200 --> 01:06:19,920
Speaker 21: Kong Invitational billions or Gold Coast Supercars.

1406
01:06:20,480 --> 01:06:24,920
Speaker 2: No, it wasn't either. The the snooker was excellent. The

1407
01:06:25,000 --> 01:06:28,080
Speaker 2: NPC final, well, now this is this is part of it.

1408
01:06:28,200 --> 01:06:30,640
Speaker 2: So I reckon this weekend was better than the previous

1409
01:06:30,680 --> 01:06:34,480
Speaker 2: weekend if you think about it. If one on the

1410
01:06:34,480 --> 01:06:38,120
Speaker 2: Saturday morning, P one and P two, the supercars, the abs,

1411
01:06:38,320 --> 01:06:40,240
Speaker 2: not that they were that exciting. The final of the

1412
01:06:40,600 --> 01:06:44,240
Speaker 2: NPC was brilliant given the extra time and how exciting

1413
01:06:44,320 --> 01:06:46,480
Speaker 2: that was. But this was a piece of history. I

1414
01:06:46,560 --> 01:06:49,000
Speaker 2: watched it live, and it's when you watch it live

1415
01:06:49,080 --> 01:06:50,880
Speaker 2: that it's truly special as opposed to just going and

1416
01:06:50,920 --> 01:06:53,920
Speaker 2: watching it on YouTube. It was a walk off Grand Slam.

1417
01:06:54,760 --> 01:06:57,720
Speaker 21: Oh yes, yes, yes. Dodgers Yankees Game one.

1418
01:06:57,640 --> 01:07:01,920
Speaker 2: Of the World Series. So bottom of the tenth, so

1419
01:07:02,080 --> 01:07:05,680
Speaker 2: extra innings, two out, Yankees are up three to two.

1420
01:07:06,560 --> 01:07:09,520
Speaker 2: Last batter up. They walk mooky Bets because they don't

1421
01:07:09,560 --> 01:07:10,920
Speaker 2: want to face them, because they're scared of them, so

1422
01:07:10,960 --> 01:07:14,040
Speaker 2: they walk them. So bases loaded. They get the guy

1423
01:07:14,200 --> 01:07:18,520
Speaker 2: Freeman up, ball In puts it in the crowd. Never

1424
01:07:18,680 --> 01:07:21,080
Speaker 2: in the history of World Series Baseball has there been

1425
01:07:21,080 --> 01:07:23,560
Speaker 2: a walk off Grand Slam. Ever, Yeah, it was moving

1426
01:07:24,440 --> 01:07:28,400
Speaker 2: and it was only ten in all of baseball. Think

1427
01:07:28,400 --> 01:07:30,840
Speaker 2: about that, In all of baseball, there's only been ten

1428
01:07:31,760 --> 01:07:34,200
Speaker 2: and none in the World Series. So I was there

1429
01:07:35,040 --> 01:07:37,480
Speaker 2: on the sofa thinking, geez, I wonder what pressures on

1430
01:07:37,560 --> 01:07:39,400
Speaker 2: this guy. He's in the crowd, he's one.

1431
01:07:39,680 --> 01:07:42,920
Speaker 21: It's the most in any home it again in the

1432
01:07:43,080 --> 01:07:44,600
Speaker 21: game two? Was it on Sunday?

1433
01:07:44,720 --> 01:07:44,880
Speaker 18: Yes?

1434
01:07:44,920 --> 01:07:46,680
Speaker 2: It was any home it again? So there now too.

1435
01:07:46,800 --> 01:07:48,760
Speaker 2: Do you want a fund stat the people who lead

1436
01:07:48,880 --> 01:07:52,160
Speaker 2: the World Series to nil Game three today in New York,

1437
01:07:52,600 --> 01:07:54,720
Speaker 2: The people who lead the World Series to nil go

1438
01:07:54,840 --> 01:07:56,560
Speaker 2: on to win at eighty four percent of the time.

1439
01:07:57,520 --> 01:08:00,400
Speaker 21: Is this your new golf? For new and it's where

1440
01:08:00,400 --> 01:08:02,160
Speaker 21: you become fixated with something and watch it.

1441
01:08:02,480 --> 01:08:04,360
Speaker 2: No, I just happened to see it. I liked the Dodgers,

1442
01:08:04,400 --> 01:08:06,040
Speaker 2: and I saw him do it, and I thought, I

1443
01:08:06,160 --> 01:08:08,480
Speaker 2: wonder if this is historic? What has just happened in

1444
01:08:08,520 --> 01:08:09,720
Speaker 2: front of me? And sure enough it was.

1445
01:08:09,800 --> 01:08:11,920
Speaker 18: You'll see him. You'll see him out in the dadding cage.

1446
01:08:11,960 --> 01:08:15,000
Speaker 18: In a couple of days, there drew no help bashing

1447
01:08:15,080 --> 01:08:16,559
Speaker 18: a few balls into the stands.

1448
01:08:17,240 --> 01:08:19,519
Speaker 21: Yeah, yeah, and then and then in six months time

1449
01:08:19,600 --> 01:08:21,080
Speaker 21: he'll give it up and he'll tell us he could

1450
01:08:21,080 --> 01:08:24,200
Speaker 21: have made it to the MAK if he was younger,

1451
01:08:24,240 --> 01:08:24,920
Speaker 21: if he's taller.

1452
01:08:26,920 --> 01:08:29,360
Speaker 2: Tell you what, I was first base at Linwood High

1453
01:08:29,400 --> 01:08:36,240
Speaker 2: in the first one. That was easy, and I made

1454
01:08:36,280 --> 01:08:36,880
Speaker 2: the first one.

1455
01:08:36,960 --> 01:08:38,800
Speaker 21: Didn't they stick the real useless kids on?

1456
01:08:43,840 --> 01:08:48,080
Speaker 2: No they did not. Now, Guy Warner's captaincy being lifted,

1457
01:08:48,200 --> 01:08:49,519
Speaker 2: is that a thing or not? Really?

1458
01:08:50,840 --> 01:08:53,479
Speaker 18: Uh well, he's never going to play for Australia again

1459
01:08:53,520 --> 01:08:55,240
Speaker 18: in Test cricket, so I don't think.

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01:08:55,080 --> 01:09:00,200
Speaker 2: It doesn't really really mean much. Second question, the one

1461
01:09:00,320 --> 01:09:01,799
Speaker 2: hundred Do you know about the one hundred?

1462
01:09:03,479 --> 01:09:04,880
Speaker 21: What the one hundred are we talking about?

1463
01:09:05,040 --> 01:09:05,880
Speaker 2: Cricket England?

1464
01:09:06,160 --> 01:09:07,240
Speaker 18: Private in England?

1465
01:09:07,360 --> 01:09:07,559
Speaker 16: Yeah?

1466
01:09:08,120 --> 01:09:09,840
Speaker 2: Is that going to turn the game on its head

1467
01:09:09,960 --> 01:09:11,800
Speaker 2: given the amount of money. I'm just reading about it

1468
01:09:11,840 --> 01:09:13,920
Speaker 2: over the weekend and like all the leagues around the world,

1469
01:09:13,960 --> 01:09:16,880
Speaker 2: they think this potentially has got like no one will

1470
01:09:16,920 --> 01:09:18,400
Speaker 2: ever play for their country ever again.

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Speaker 21: It's been going all while though.

1472
01:09:20,160 --> 01:09:22,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, no, no, it's getting the turbo charge with

1473
01:09:22,280 --> 01:09:22,599
Speaker 2: the money.

1474
01:09:24,800 --> 01:09:26,639
Speaker 18: I don't think so. I think I think the IPL

1475
01:09:26,720 --> 01:09:28,280
Speaker 18: will always be the one that will make the money

1476
01:09:28,320 --> 01:09:31,160
Speaker 18: and we'll get the players there. If there's enough money

1477
01:09:31,240 --> 01:09:34,120
Speaker 18: to pay these players, you know, money that the IPL

1478
01:09:34,360 --> 01:09:36,840
Speaker 18: is paying them, then of course it's going to drag

1479
01:09:36,960 --> 01:09:39,840
Speaker 18: some bigger stars there than it already has. But I

1480
01:09:39,920 --> 01:09:42,479
Speaker 18: think the IPL will still be number one. The big

1481
01:09:42,560 --> 01:09:45,600
Speaker 18: thing is how much is all of this in a

1482
01:09:46,040 --> 01:09:48,880
Speaker 18: heightened hundred How much is that going to impact the

1483
01:09:48,920 --> 01:09:51,840
Speaker 18: international game? Because it already has, but how much if

1484
01:09:51,880 --> 01:09:54,320
Speaker 18: they continue to just keep throwing more and more and

1485
01:09:54,479 --> 01:09:56,439
Speaker 18: more dollars at it, how much is it going to

1486
01:09:56,479 --> 01:09:57,559
Speaker 18: impact the international game?

1487
01:09:57,920 --> 01:10:01,920
Speaker 2: What the question Andrew Auckland deaf cea top of the

1488
01:10:02,000 --> 01:10:04,479
Speaker 2: table think about and right lost?

1489
01:10:05,400 --> 01:10:08,360
Speaker 21: Yeah? I mean, not only was that first game fantastic

1490
01:10:08,439 --> 01:10:12,759
Speaker 21: atmosphere and a good result given the team had barely

1491
01:10:12,840 --> 01:10:15,120
Speaker 21: played together, but then at the weekend they beat someone

1492
01:10:15,200 --> 01:10:19,880
Speaker 21: like Sydney FC. Look that they put on a good show.

1493
01:10:20,479 --> 01:10:24,320
Speaker 21: They're very fan focused and obviously if they keep winning,

1494
01:10:24,560 --> 01:10:27,800
Speaker 21: that will only boost attendances and boost interests. I think

1495
01:10:27,800 --> 01:10:30,360
Speaker 21: they've had a fantastic Startland Derby.

1496
01:10:30,439 --> 01:10:31,639
Speaker 18: This weekend they play the Phoenix.

1497
01:10:31,800 --> 01:10:34,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, that'll be huge, Although win, won't they.

1498
01:10:36,360 --> 01:10:36,599
Speaker 13: Wow?

1499
01:10:36,920 --> 01:10:38,840
Speaker 18: I don't know, but I'm more interested in to see that,

1500
01:10:39,000 --> 01:10:40,280
Speaker 18: the atmosphere and that sort of thing.

1501
01:10:40,280 --> 01:10:43,240
Speaker 2: I think they'll be where it is it Auckland or Wellington?

1502
01:10:43,520 --> 01:10:44,439
Speaker 18: I think it's Wellington.

1503
01:10:44,520 --> 01:10:45,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll see. That's a shame they don't turn up

1504
01:10:46,000 --> 01:10:47,280
Speaker 2: in Wellington. That's the problem, isn't it?

1505
01:10:47,360 --> 01:10:48,479
Speaker 17: But I think they might for this.

1506
01:10:49,200 --> 01:10:50,479
Speaker 21: It up for this, I'd say, yep.

1507
01:10:50,920 --> 01:10:52,519
Speaker 2: If you're not going to turn up for a local derby,

1508
01:10:52,560 --> 01:10:54,200
Speaker 2: there's no point in having a local derby, is there.

1509
01:10:54,720 --> 01:10:55,719
Speaker 13: I'll really been going.

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01:10:55,560 --> 01:10:58,160
Speaker 21: Two games and I've got this fantastic section of of

1511
01:10:58,360 --> 01:11:02,800
Speaker 21: die hard fans already too light. Yeah, it's been quite

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01:11:02,840 --> 01:11:03,559
Speaker 21: a remarkable start.

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01:11:03,800 --> 01:11:06,400
Speaker 2: Real quick question for you guy, calm games? Can we

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Speaker 2: be bothered on not ten sports? Give it up or

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Speaker 2: keep it going?

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Speaker 18: I'd say give it up?

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Speaker 2: Okay, this, Andrew the irony veer mic.

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Speaker 21: Is the sports that needed the most have been kicked out?

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Speaker 21: I don't know that I would question this.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so too. So will officially kill it?

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Speaker 2: Shall I just pass it on to the Olympic committee then?

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Speaker 13: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Hosking Mike, I loved every seventy one lapse drama from

1549
01:12:45,520 --> 01:12:47,880
Speaker 2: the get go. At one point Liam was fourth, short

1550
01:12:47,920 --> 01:12:50,479
Speaker 2: lived but all good for him. Moving on yep. They

1551
01:12:50,560 --> 01:12:54,320
Speaker 2: move on to Brazil to the famous Interlagos. There's a

1552
01:12:55,040 --> 01:12:56,880
Speaker 2: week's break after that, and then they go to Las

1553
01:12:56,960 --> 01:12:59,040
Speaker 2: Vegas and then they wrap the season up a week

1554
01:12:59,080 --> 01:13:00,880
Speaker 2: after that. It's another tup headed with a couple of

1555
01:13:00,960 --> 01:13:03,360
Speaker 2: races in the Middle Eastern and there's a couple of

1556
01:13:03,400 --> 01:13:05,680
Speaker 2: sprint races to take care of as well. Mike, how

1557
01:13:05,760 --> 01:13:07,880
Speaker 2: many people at the Auckland FC game yesterday. I saw

1558
01:13:07,920 --> 01:13:10,920
Speaker 2: a little bit of it and I looked to me

1559
01:13:11,040 --> 01:13:12,760
Speaker 2: the same size or the same number of people who

1560
01:13:12,760 --> 01:13:14,200
Speaker 2: were there the week one and they claimed that it

1561
01:13:14,320 --> 01:13:16,519
Speaker 2: was a sellout. I'm not sure it was truly a sellout,

1562
01:13:16,560 --> 01:13:18,439
Speaker 2: but there were about twenty five thousand people in week one,

1563
01:13:18,479 --> 01:13:20,880
Speaker 2: so I'm guessing there's about twenty five thousand people in

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01:13:21,000 --> 01:13:23,439
Speaker 2: week two, which I would have thought relatively encouraging. And

1565
01:13:23,600 --> 01:13:25,920
Speaker 2: it will be with a local Wellington's always had this

1566
01:13:26,040 --> 01:13:30,320
Speaker 2: issue with it being not well supported by the fans

1567
01:13:30,439 --> 01:13:33,280
Speaker 2: or not as well hardcore but not the big numbers.

1568
01:13:33,320 --> 01:13:36,519
Speaker 2: By the way, the aforementioned baseball the most expensive ticket

1569
01:13:36,600 --> 01:13:39,519
Speaker 2: on average. As I mentioned Game three today, Yankees Dodgers

1570
01:13:39,640 --> 01:13:43,080
Speaker 2: in New York, first time in New York, and as

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01:13:43,120 --> 01:13:44,800
Speaker 2: I alluded to the other day, you can't get a

1572
01:13:45,080 --> 01:13:46,840
Speaker 2: better match up because you've got the two biggest cities

1573
01:13:46,880 --> 01:13:49,519
Speaker 2: in America East Coast, West Coast, New York versus Los Angeles.

1574
01:13:49,560 --> 01:13:52,320
Speaker 2: Blah blah blah. Average ticket price in the US dollars

1575
01:13:52,439 --> 01:13:56,559
Speaker 2: is seventeen hundred dollars, so say three thousand New Zealand.

1576
01:13:56,560 --> 01:14:00,639
Speaker 2: That's on the secondary market. That's broken records. Previous record

1577
01:14:00,840 --> 01:14:05,200
Speaker 2: was back in twenty sixteen. It's doubled last year's average.

1578
01:14:06,200 --> 01:14:08,800
Speaker 2: So you're paying big bucks to be amongst the crowd.

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01:14:09,640 --> 01:14:11,400
Speaker 2: News me in a couple of moments, there's a bloke

1580
01:14:11,439 --> 01:14:14,519
Speaker 2: of labor MP another one in the UK who was

1581
01:14:14,600 --> 01:14:17,640
Speaker 2: caught on camera beating up a person. Now call me

1582
01:14:17,720 --> 01:14:21,080
Speaker 2: old fashioned, but when you're an MP and in government,

1583
01:14:21,240 --> 01:14:23,800
Speaker 2: you don't go around beating up people and getting caught

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01:14:23,880 --> 01:14:26,880
Speaker 2: on camera. So we'll get the details from lot little shortly.

1585
01:14:28,760 --> 01:14:32,080
Speaker 1: Setting the news agenda and digging into the issues the

1586
01:14:32,320 --> 01:14:36,360
Speaker 1: Mike Hosking Breakfast with Bailey's real Estate, your local experts

1587
01:14:36,360 --> 01:14:39,200
Speaker 1: across residential, commercial and rural news togs.

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Speaker 2: He'd be one of my inside sources in the world

1589
01:14:41,880 --> 01:14:44,680
Speaker 2: of motor racing, suggesting to me that Liam will be

1590
01:14:44,720 --> 01:14:49,519
Speaker 2: announced in the RB tonight for Brazil this coming weekend.

1591
01:14:50,160 --> 01:14:53,559
Speaker 2: Last time they were correct, so we'll see who see

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01:14:53,600 --> 01:14:55,120
Speaker 2: whether they're r at this time. Mike, I flew home

1593
01:14:55,120 --> 01:14:58,040
Speaker 2: from Honolulu yesterday. Oh my flight was an amazing anger

1594
01:14:58,080 --> 01:15:00,759
Speaker 2: lady by the name of Kaitline O'Reilly who was returning

1595
01:15:00,800 --> 01:15:03,160
Speaker 2: home after competing an amazing feat of being the youngest

1596
01:15:03,200 --> 01:15:06,720
Speaker 2: person age twenty to complete the Seven Seas challenge. That's

1597
01:15:06,760 --> 01:15:08,640
Speaker 2: going to be my sporting moment of the weekend. Look

1598
01:15:08,760 --> 01:15:10,360
Speaker 2: that one up and read more about it. Twenty three

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Speaker 2: minutes away from nine.

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Speaker 19: International correspondence with Insie Eye Insurance Peace of Mind for

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Speaker 19: New Zealand Business.

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Speaker 2: You're the manam United Kingdom. We go on a little

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01:15:18,880 --> 01:15:19,320
Speaker 2: morning to you.

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01:15:20,439 --> 01:15:22,200
Speaker 13: Good morning, Mike. Can you do it very well?

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01:15:22,240 --> 01:15:25,360
Speaker 2: Indeed, Sir this Amesbury was he a household name before

1606
01:15:25,400 --> 01:15:28,120
Speaker 2: he started beating people up and getting suspended.

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01:15:28,640 --> 01:15:31,400
Speaker 13: And nobody he is now, which is nice for him.

1608
01:15:32,080 --> 01:15:36,880
Speaker 13: He's shut in MP's since twenty seventeen for various little

1609
01:15:37,360 --> 01:15:42,880
Speaker 13: pockets of affluent Cheshire, the Weaver Valley and Runcorn. And

1610
01:15:43,320 --> 01:15:46,559
Speaker 13: it seems that he emerged from a pub and had

1611
01:15:46,600 --> 01:15:49,439
Speaker 13: an altercation with a man about a number of issues,

1612
01:15:49,520 --> 01:15:54,200
Speaker 13: including a local bridge closure and the winter fuel pavements,

1613
01:15:54,560 --> 01:15:59,040
Speaker 13: and apparently seemingly from nothing, he punched him in the

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01:15:59,120 --> 01:16:02,280
Speaker 13: face that stood over him, and continued to punch him

1615
01:16:02,280 --> 01:16:05,680
Speaker 13: while he was on the ground, and then returned as

1616
01:16:05,920 --> 01:16:09,479
Speaker 13: women intervened and said no, leave it out, leave it out,

1617
01:16:09,960 --> 01:16:12,479
Speaker 13: and so on. As you can imagine, he returned and

1618
01:16:12,600 --> 01:16:15,840
Speaker 13: said you'll not threaten your MP again, will you, and

1619
01:16:16,520 --> 01:16:23,280
Speaker 13: pointed his finger in very emotive footage. And Keir Starmer

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01:16:23,280 --> 01:16:27,160
Speaker 13: has suspended him from the Labor Party and said he

1621
01:16:27,280 --> 01:16:32,080
Speaker 13: found the footage shocking. It has to be said, one

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01:16:32,439 --> 01:16:35,880
Speaker 13: tiny little bit of mitigation which may come out. You

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01:16:35,960 --> 01:16:41,760
Speaker 13: don't know that a bloke was jailed a couple of

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01:16:41,840 --> 01:16:48,439
Speaker 13: years ago for stalking Mike Hainesbury and was clearly a

1625
01:16:48,600 --> 01:16:51,760
Speaker 13: threat to Mike Cainsbury. And it may be that this

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01:16:51,960 --> 01:16:54,080
Speaker 13: was all in the back of his mind, But why

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01:16:54,240 --> 01:16:58,840
Speaker 13: I am bothering to fabricate excuses for the suggery of

1628
01:16:58,960 --> 01:17:02,080
Speaker 13: the Labor Party? No, Mike, but there we are.

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01:17:02,360 --> 01:17:05,000
Speaker 2: Have we heard from mister Ramsbury in anyway, shape or

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01:17:05,040 --> 01:17:08,360
Speaker 2: form by a lawyer or an apology or both or.

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01:17:09,000 --> 01:17:12,120
Speaker 13: No, certainly not an apology. All we've heard is I

1632
01:17:12,240 --> 01:17:16,360
Speaker 13: felt I was threatened on the streets of this particular

1633
01:17:16,479 --> 01:17:20,599
Speaker 13: town in Cheshire and reacted. But there's been nothing more

1634
01:17:20,680 --> 01:17:20,920
Speaker 13: than that.

1635
01:17:22,200 --> 01:17:24,679
Speaker 2: What happened to literally? I mean one of the rules

1636
01:17:24,720 --> 01:17:26,519
Speaker 2: we have, I think from memory of making this up,

1637
01:17:26,600 --> 01:17:28,840
Speaker 2: it's about two years? Have you sentenced to two years

1638
01:17:28,960 --> 01:17:32,280
Speaker 2: or more in jail? You're no longer an MP? What

1639
01:17:32,720 --> 01:17:35,120
Speaker 2: happens in Britain? Presumably they don't want him back, do they?

1640
01:17:35,280 --> 01:17:38,080
Speaker 13: Or do they? They don't want him back, but this

1641
01:17:38,240 --> 01:17:41,479
Speaker 13: course is a problem for them because there is no

1642
01:17:42,000 --> 01:17:45,200
Speaker 13: real means of getting rid of him, especially as they've

1643
01:17:45,280 --> 01:17:46,960
Speaker 13: kicked him out of the Labor Party. Is now an

1644
01:17:47,000 --> 01:17:51,439
Speaker 13: independent MP, and therefore they can't reselect him because he

1645
01:17:51,680 --> 01:17:55,080
Speaker 13: is the MP, and they can put another candle up

1646
01:17:55,080 --> 01:17:59,040
Speaker 13: against him, but there's five years to wait until that

1647
01:17:59,200 --> 01:18:02,960
Speaker 13: comes about. And we've seen that before always with Labor MPs.

1648
01:18:04,560 --> 01:18:06,560
Speaker 13: I forget the name of the woman who it was

1649
01:18:06,640 --> 01:18:10,080
Speaker 13: who was suspended having been found guilty in a court

1650
01:18:10,160 --> 01:18:15,559
Speaker 13: of law of perverting the course of justice. I think

1651
01:18:15,600 --> 01:18:20,400
Speaker 13: it was. And she remained in office cheerfully enough for

1652
01:18:20,520 --> 01:18:22,600
Speaker 13: three years and there was nothing Labour could do to

1653
01:18:22,680 --> 01:18:23,200
Speaker 13: get rid of her.

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01:18:23,360 --> 01:18:27,120
Speaker 2: Wow, the budget, I mean, this is a distraction they

1655
01:18:27,160 --> 01:18:30,559
Speaker 2: don't need, of course. Is it possible, let me pose

1656
01:18:30,640 --> 01:18:33,320
Speaker 2: this one to you. Is it possible that the Labor

1657
01:18:33,400 --> 01:18:36,880
Speaker 2: Party Labor government have laid the budget on so thick

1658
01:18:37,520 --> 01:18:39,800
Speaker 2: that what has announced isn't quite as bad as they've

1659
01:18:39,800 --> 01:18:40,479
Speaker 2: made it out to be.

1660
01:18:41,640 --> 01:18:45,639
Speaker 13: I think that's almost certainly right. Certainly from a personal

1661
01:18:45,840 --> 01:18:48,160
Speaker 13: point of view, I'm very much hoping that that's what

1662
01:18:48,280 --> 01:18:52,679
Speaker 13: they've done, because you may have seen stories about people

1663
01:18:52,720 --> 01:18:56,320
Speaker 13: fleeing the country rather like the last helicopter out of

1664
01:18:56,439 --> 01:19:01,439
Speaker 13: Psichon and the latest rob we had the the quite

1665
01:19:01,560 --> 01:19:06,280
Speaker 13: famous and slightly irritating I have to say, Pimlico Plumbers Company.

1666
01:19:07,280 --> 01:19:11,280
Speaker 13: Who it's a huge chain of plumbers operating in London.

1667
01:19:12,560 --> 01:19:17,200
Speaker 2: The main guy I've forgotten this af forgot it or something,

1668
01:19:17,280 --> 01:19:17,560
Speaker 2: isn't it.

1669
01:19:17,960 --> 01:19:20,240
Speaker 13: Yeah, that's right, And he was he was very very

1670
01:19:20,400 --> 01:19:26,000
Speaker 13: vocal for example during the Brexit debate where he said,

1671
01:19:26,960 --> 01:19:30,840
Speaker 13: you know, if if if we left, he'd be leaving

1672
01:19:30,920 --> 01:19:34,320
Speaker 13: as well. He was very very much against it. But

1673
01:19:35,040 --> 01:19:40,200
Speaker 13: Charlie Mullins, right, Charlie, anyways, the hell we could just

1674
01:19:40,280 --> 01:19:45,640
Speaker 13: buy mat where where I find that the that the

1675
01:19:45,760 --> 01:19:52,639
Speaker 13: local wages are quite low for for blue collar jobs

1676
01:19:53,120 --> 01:19:56,240
Speaker 13: out there, So yeah, you may be right, you may

1677
01:19:56,320 --> 01:19:58,479
Speaker 13: be right, and certainly that's what a lot of people

1678
01:19:58,520 --> 01:20:01,040
Speaker 13: are hoping. There is no doubt it's going to hurt

1679
01:20:01,080 --> 01:20:01,360
Speaker 13: a bit.

1680
01:20:01,920 --> 01:20:05,120
Speaker 2: How big a deal? Let me ask you this, how

1681
01:20:05,160 --> 01:20:07,000
Speaker 2: big a deal in the wonderful world of football? It's

1682
01:20:07,040 --> 01:20:08,280
Speaker 2: not your team, and I don't think is a But

1683
01:20:08,600 --> 01:20:10,400
Speaker 2: when Erica I saw Eric in the beck of an

1684
01:20:10,520 --> 01:20:12,720
Speaker 2: s class Mersides going out to an airport to catch

1685
01:20:12,760 --> 01:20:16,280
Speaker 2: a private playing back to the Netherlands his second tin

1686
01:20:16,439 --> 01:20:18,360
Speaker 2: hag second, how big a deal is that? In the

1687
01:20:18,400 --> 01:20:19,360
Speaker 2: world of football today?

1688
01:20:20,320 --> 01:20:24,479
Speaker 13: I think Eric sucking is kind of I mean, I've

1689
01:20:24,520 --> 01:20:27,200
Speaker 13: been writing about it for for weeks in a sports column.

1690
01:20:27,240 --> 01:20:27,439
Speaker 16: I do.

1691
01:20:30,000 --> 01:20:33,720
Speaker 13: It's hard to know when the final straw came. But

1692
01:20:34,240 --> 01:20:37,720
Speaker 13: we now go into Manchester United games looking at the

1693
01:20:38,400 --> 01:20:40,320
Speaker 13: game and saying they're probably not even going to get

1694
01:20:40,320 --> 01:20:43,200
Speaker 13: a point out of this, and that is exactly the case.

1695
01:20:44,400 --> 01:20:48,640
Speaker 13: They are lying well below mid table. There are a

1696
01:20:48,680 --> 01:20:52,320
Speaker 13: few healthy points above the relegation zone, but it's nowhere

1697
01:20:52,479 --> 01:20:55,719
Speaker 13: near what they where they should be. That being said,

1698
01:20:56,000 --> 01:21:02,560
Speaker 13: Manchester United have been ruled badly and sometimes ineptly, to

1699
01:21:02,680 --> 01:21:07,320
Speaker 13: an extraordinary degree ever since Alex Ferguson left. Yeah, they

1700
01:21:07,360 --> 01:21:08,880
Speaker 13: have never hit those heights again.

1701
01:21:09,080 --> 01:21:11,000
Speaker 2: No, indeed, all right mate, we'll catch up on Thursday,

1702
01:21:11,000 --> 01:21:13,200
Speaker 2: appreciate it as always the other day after budget day?

1703
01:21:15,760 --> 01:21:18,160
Speaker 2: Can we say here we've got on visa be the

1704
01:21:18,200 --> 01:21:20,000
Speaker 2: budget or not? Is it a bit early to say that?

1705
01:21:22,080 --> 01:21:25,080
Speaker 2: A bit early? Okay, I'd like to be okay, just

1706
01:21:25,160 --> 01:21:27,160
Speaker 2: for the record, I'd like to personally, I'd like to

1707
01:21:27,200 --> 01:21:28,400
Speaker 2: be able to tell you who we've got on.

1708
01:21:28,720 --> 01:21:32,400
Speaker 7: We're trying to create sizz around somebody covering the UK budget.

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01:21:33,320 --> 01:21:34,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, well no, I've got a good name for it,

1710
01:21:35,080 --> 01:21:36,519
Speaker 2: that's all. If I gave you the name, you go,

1711
01:21:36,640 --> 01:21:39,760
Speaker 2: oh yeah, okay, yeah, no, no, no, no, no, fair enough,

1712
01:21:39,960 --> 01:21:43,799
Speaker 2: that's what would happen. But I've been prevented. Tommy Robinson,

1713
01:21:43,840 --> 01:21:47,400
Speaker 2: by the way, his real name is Stephen Yaxley Lennon

1714
01:21:47,960 --> 01:21:49,760
Speaker 2: he's sort of one of those things who causes a

1715
01:21:49,800 --> 01:21:52,320
Speaker 2: lot of trouble online and stuff like that. Anyway, he's

1716
01:21:52,360 --> 01:21:55,200
Speaker 2: been banged up ten breeches of a High court order

1717
01:21:55,760 --> 01:21:59,400
Speaker 2: barring him from repeating libelous allegations against the Syrian that

1718
01:21:59,479 --> 01:22:02,320
Speaker 2: he had be worth anyways, been banged up for eighteen months.

1719
01:22:02,400 --> 01:22:04,720
Speaker 2: So he's back. And I note with interest and an

1720
01:22:04,760 --> 01:22:08,640
Speaker 2: element of sadness, that all five one Direction albums have

1721
01:22:08,760 --> 01:22:12,559
Speaker 2: returned to the top forty. There's been a five hundred

1722
01:22:12,560 --> 01:22:15,960
Speaker 2: and seventeen percent week on week increase in sales and

1723
01:22:16,080 --> 01:22:21,240
Speaker 2: streams since Liam found his way off the balcony in

1724
01:22:21,360 --> 01:22:23,960
Speaker 2: South America. And I can't help it. The sadness is

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Speaker 2: I mean, obviously that he's dead, but the money, the

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Speaker 2: clipping of the ticket, I think almost certainly will be

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Speaker 2: going to mister Simon cowb And so it seems someone

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Speaker 2: ironic that tragedy leads to greater riches. Eight forty five.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio, powered

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Speaker 1: by News Talks at be Mike.

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Speaker 2: You don't get rich working nine to five. You get

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Speaker 2: rich by being like Simon cal and having others work

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Speaker 2: for you. Yeah, that's parts true, but I was sort

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Speaker 2: of in my sort of strange hope that there would

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Speaker 2: be some sort of charity announcement, as in, like all

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Speaker 2: the money raised in the last couple of weeks goes

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Speaker 2: to ex charity or something like that. Mike, did you

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Speaker 2: watch the Rogan Trump podcast?

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Speaker 23: Yes?

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Speaker 2: And no obviously not three hours. No, No one's got

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Speaker 2: three hours to watch or listen coming earlier on. I

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Speaker 2: did watch, funnily enough, the thing at Madison Square Garden yesterday,

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Speaker 2: and I mentioned it earlier on. But my interest was

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Speaker 2: that it was it was I can't work out what

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Speaker 2: they're for, because at this point in the campaign, surely

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Speaker 2: everybody's made up their mind one way or the other.

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Speaker 2: Either you're voting for Harris, you're voting for Trump, or

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Speaker 2: you're not voting at all and going along. And I

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Speaker 2: mentioned a reporter I saw had queued for four hours

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Speaker 2: to arrive three hours early to watch the thing for

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Speaker 2: two hours, so nine hours that you spent in Madison

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Speaker 2: Square Garden. And for what I mean as a show,

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Speaker 2: it was boring is all. There was nothing about it

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Speaker 2: that was entertaining. It was nothing new, It wasn't particularly

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Speaker 2: any more or less relevant than anything else.

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Speaker 7: You had, You mean, you needed to tell you my

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01:23:59,240 --> 01:24:02,040
Speaker 7: whole Hogan ripping off and singular to reveal another single.

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Speaker 2: Because I've seen that before, and that was an old

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01:24:04,400 --> 01:24:10,320
Speaker 2: act and the comedian clearly wasn't funny, and Giuliani wasn't interesting.

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Speaker 7: You didn't find a comedian describing Puerto Rico as an

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Speaker 7: island of garbage funny.

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Speaker 2: I did not know. And Tucker Carlson seemed literally insane.

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Speaker 2: And so just look at go back to look at

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Speaker 2: Tucker Carlson.

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Speaker 7: Just look at it. You don't even have to listen.

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Speaker 2: Look at the way he talks and moves his head.

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Speaker 7: You know, we come at the frog starts waving his

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Speaker 7: arms all around the place. And if I.

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Speaker 2: Would have been prepared personally, five minute Q pop in

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Speaker 2: half an hour before the show, get a beer and

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Speaker 2: go let's see what this is all about. But nine hours,

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Speaker 2: there is no amount of anything that he could have

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Speaker 2: delivered that would have justified my presence there with me

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Speaker 2: walking away going that was an historic moment, or I've

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Speaker 2: changed my mind on the vote, or I am now

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Speaker 2: going to vote because of that. Nothing. There was nothing there.

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Speaker 2: So I just wonder what the point is short of

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01:25:02,400 --> 01:25:05,000
Speaker 2: providing material yet again for the media to go. And

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Speaker 2: Trump was in New York, and Harris was in Michigan,

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Speaker 2: and then Trump was in Pennsylvania, and Harrison was in Wisconsin,

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Speaker 2: and Trump was in Arizona today and ten minutes away

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Speaker 2: from nine the.

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Speaker 10: Myke Hosty Racist with Bailey's Real Estate hughs talk CV

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Speaker 10: Seeing the Apprentice movie Micah five star movie of Trump's

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Speaker 10: start and building his empire, great acting, highly recommended, Grahame.

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Speaker 2: We featured the promo a week or so back on

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Speaker 2: the program. My sister in law's seen it, but I

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Speaker 2: understand at this present point in time it's only in theaters.

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Speaker 2: I think I'm correct in saying she said it was good.

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Speaker 2: It's getting quite a good review, quite a good buzz.

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Speaker 2: The guy who plays Trump's very good. And I will

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01:25:42,600 --> 01:25:44,960
Speaker 2: see it, but I don't go to movie, so when

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Speaker 2: it comes to a streaming service near me, I will

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01:25:47,600 --> 01:25:50,360
Speaker 2: be availing myself of the opportunity. Mike, are we or

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Speaker 2: are be sure that Lawson's a better driver than Yuki? Well,

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Speaker 2: certainly up to yesterday, we are, because I I don't

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Speaker 2: know if you saw Yuki yesterday, but he didn't get

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Speaker 2: past the first straight away, he drove about five hundred

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Speaker 2: meters and crashed. So yep, I reckon Liam probably on

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Speaker 2: the day if you're in fact. Even though it went

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Speaker 2: wrong for Liam with Colopinto, Liam was the second most

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Speaker 2: successful Red Bull driver because he beat Perez and he

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Speaker 2: beat Yuki. So job number one beat Yuki, job number

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Speaker 2: two beat Perez. So job done, Mike, I reckon Max

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Speaker 2: wants Liam as his team made. As soon as Liam

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Speaker 2: pass Sujio, it was all over. So yeah, and do

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Speaker 2: understand the Sugio thing and some of the media. What

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Speaker 2: I'm loving about the local media in this country at

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Speaker 2: the moment, by the way, is suddenly they've all become

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Speaker 2: fascinated with F one a all of a sudden, having

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Speaker 2: ignored it for years and not having the slightest idea

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Speaker 2: what a nose cone is from an exhaust pipe. Suddenly

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Speaker 2: it's left, right and center coverage. But do understand that

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Speaker 2: when they were trying to make something of the Perez

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Speaker 2: thing yesterday. Perez is a man under tremendous pressure, and

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Speaker 2: he's got a twenty two to twenty three year old

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Speaker 2: up his tailpipe about to take his job. Things are angsty,

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Speaker 2: and that's where a lot of that comes from, of course,

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Speaker 2: five Away from.

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Speaker 2: I got Apple News. We've got some Apple Intelligence being

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Speaker 2: rolled out today. So you need the right device. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 2: so to get the Apple Intelligence, you need to have

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Speaker 2: the latest iPhone or iPad or or the all new iMac.

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Speaker 26: The new iMac features a fresh new set of beautiful colors.

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Speaker 26: It has even more performance and with Apple Intelligence, it's

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Speaker 26: the world's best on in one.

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Speaker 7: For AI one for AI.

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Speaker 2: So the new iMac much faster, more powerful. But as

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Speaker 2: as my kermit esque friend alluded to some colors, it

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Speaker 2: comes in.

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Speaker 26: A parade of new and playful colors that are more

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Speaker 26: beautiful than ever. And it's so much fun to pick

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Speaker 26: the color that matches your vived and add a pop

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Speaker 26: a personality to your home or work speed.

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Speaker 2: Honestly, do they can you? There must be apartment they

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Speaker 2: sit there. If I say a pop of personality, do

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Speaker 2: I come across as a dick?

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Speaker 9: No?

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Speaker 2: Not even a little bit.

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Speaker 7: Well, I can think we know what color matches.

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Speaker 2: Your vibe, green, orange, pink, purple, blue, silver, and yellow. No,

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Speaker 2: not yellow, depends what sort of yellow it is.

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Speaker 7: No, it doesn't. Nobody wants yellow.

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Speaker 2: But well, sales would tell you that, wouldn't they wouldn't

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Speaker 2: they be able to go that we made ten million

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Speaker 2: iMacs and two people bought yellow, and therefore let's dump

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Speaker 2: the yellow. Isn't that what they do with cars? Now

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Speaker 2: here's my question. You can pre order your iMac at

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Speaker 2: twenty four hundred and ninety nine dollars. That strikes me

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01:28:40,040 --> 01:28:43,360
Speaker 2: as a reasonable price because I think a little eyepad

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01:28:43,960 --> 01:28:46,200
Speaker 2: you can pay just as much, can't you, Well, you.

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Speaker 7: Can, It depends how much storage.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, pad for Mac, Pad for Mac Max seems

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01:28:52,439 --> 01:28:54,160
Speaker 2: a bitter bang for buck than a Mac.

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Speaker 7: Well, you do get a beautiful large, yeah.

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Speaker 2: Big screen, big screen with a big keyboard.

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Speaker 7: And look important and the color that matches your vibe

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Speaker 7: and a.

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Speaker 2: Little popper personality or popper color and what anyway, if

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Speaker 2: you want to order any of that, it's in stores

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Speaker 2: Friday week, that's this coming Friday, the Friday after this

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Speaker 2: coming Friday. But if you had AI, but.

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Speaker 7: You can pre order it now on the website.

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Speaker 2: Can your boots fantastic? Anyway? Back tomorrow morning, Wednesday morning,

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Speaker 2: already see how short week works. Fantastic as always Happy Days.

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Speaker 1: For more from the mic Asking Breakfast, listen live to

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