1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:04,280 Speaker 1: Really weird, really weird theory about why Nichola Willis is 2 00:00:04,280 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 1: getting attacked has popped up in the media. Today'll run 3 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 1: you through that shortly thirteen away from five and Barry Soaper, 4 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:11,880 Speaker 1: senior political correspondence with Us Hallo barring, good afternoon, Heaven 5 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 1: so boss, he's gone, Yes he is. 6 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:19,840 Speaker 2: He's not a great contribution to politics, done well. The 7 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:23,599 Speaker 2: only thing that I've done is been the first non 8 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 2: binary person that's entered the corridors of power and Parliament. 9 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 2: And that's about it, because if you look at anything else, 10 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 2: there's no there's nothing, there's nothing that he has or 11 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:40,959 Speaker 2: sheet sorry, they have done, and only to confuse us 12 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:42,239 Speaker 2: about what you can call them. 13 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:48,240 Speaker 1: I'm not trying to be funny, you are the BSA 14 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:48,600 Speaker 1: comes in. 15 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 2: I've never heard the light just before. 16 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 1: The BSA comes in. That wasn't a joke, that was. 17 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 2: So yeah, yes exactly, I mean totally confused about what 18 00:00:57,080 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 2: you call them. So they are going to give their 19 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 2: final teledictory on September the eighteenth, help you out exactly, 20 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 2: which I must really tune in for because it will 21 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 2: be absolutely fascinating and thank goodness, we've passed that era 22 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 2: and let's hope nothing more comes of it or into 23 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:21,279 Speaker 2: Parliament as a result of it. Anyway, the next person 24 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:24,319 Speaker 2: that'll come in on the list for the Greens is 25 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 2: a chap called Mike Davidson from christ Church. Now, he 26 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 2: was a semi counselor in christ Church for six years. 27 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:34,840 Speaker 2: He's not non binary. He's a normal seems quite a 28 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 2: normal fellow. He's got an environmental science degree, so he's 29 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 2: well suited to the Greens and he'll be the next 30 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:43,960 Speaker 2: to be sworn in. 31 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:46,959 Speaker 1: He looks actually quite boring for the Greens. 32 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 2: Well, totally after Danna Darlene Tana that Benjamin took over from. 33 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 2: You know, now you've got this Mike Davidson. 34 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 1: Now, look, it appears to be quite clear that the 35 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 1: Greens have told Bussy to go right. 36 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 2: Oh, I think probably yes, because he has been very embarrassing, 37 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 2: not just the fact that he's really done nothing since 38 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:12,240 Speaker 2: he's been there other than stood looking rather flamboyant in 39 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 2: the outfits that he tends to weird about. 40 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 1: Okay, so can you just update us on the tamak 41 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 1: Tamaki Makoto by election. 42 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 2: Well, it's incredible when you think about it. Tomorrow is 43 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:26,799 Speaker 2: voting day. Don't forget there are eighty four places in 44 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 2: the electorate that people can turn out to vote. They've 45 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 2: hardly been rushed off their feet in that electorate though, 46 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:36,640 Speaker 2: when you consider that last night the latest count for 47 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 2: the forty four thousand registered voters in the electorate was 48 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 2: nine hundred and thirty two. I think they're all down 49 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 2: at to Rangawai Wai watching the Queen's first speech of 50 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 2: the year. That was all done in Maldi. So I 51 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 2: watched it. It was seemed to be quite impressive, but unfortunately, 52 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 2: not being a special language. 53 00:02:57,360 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 1: The fact that she can speak Marif fluently is actually something, right, 54 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 1: because I don't think her dad could. 55 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 2: No, he couldn't, No, he couldn't. So yeah, I guess 56 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 2: that's something. But it would have been nice for her 57 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 2: to give us a bit of an English translation as well. 58 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 2: But still it's not for us, it's for Maldy and 59 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:14,519 Speaker 2: it's probably fair enough. 60 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:16,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, Matthew Houghton then go. 61 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:21,799 Speaker 2: On, oh honestly, well, you know, I mean Houghton has 62 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:26,359 Speaker 2: never limited himself to simply commenting on politics. He's been 63 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 2: involved in politics with leadership. I mean the spill in 64 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 2: twenty twenty that saw Simon Bridges ousted by Todd Muller. 65 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 2: Matthew Houghton went on to work for Todd Muller as 66 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 2: an advisor. 67 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 1: Of He didn't go on to he was busy orchestrated. 68 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 2: Well, yes he was. So he's a participant in it 69 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:49,120 Speaker 2: and Goodness only knows why he's seen as an impartial 70 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 2: observer when he has attacked most National leaders in recent years. 71 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 2: They've been under attack at one stage or another, and 72 00:03:56,840 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 2: it's a bit like, you know, any commentary of the sort. 73 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 2: I doubt, well, I have total doubt that anybody has 74 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 2: ever told them that Luxon is about to be rolled, 75 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 2: which is what if you read his column you'd expect 76 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 2: to happen next Tuesday. I've talked to a number of 77 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 2: people in the National Party. They know that a disunified 78 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 2: party going into an election year is one that will 79 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:24,360 Speaker 2: probably lose the election. And I think they have discussed 80 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:28,719 Speaker 2: the polls in the caucus meeting and they say, the 81 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 2: people that I've talked to that the polling they polled 82 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 2: thirty eight percent at the last election. They say they're 83 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:38,839 Speaker 2: polling showing them they've dropped three percent. So they're not 84 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:42,040 Speaker 2: as bad as some polls have been showing, but look, 85 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:45,159 Speaker 2: next year is the year and they'll be, no doubt 86 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 2: hoping this dark winter for them will live cleared up 87 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:51,360 Speaker 2: and the economy will be looking better. 88 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 1: Good stuff, very well, Rap the political week that was 89 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:55,039 Speaker 1: later with you just after quarter past six, very so, 90 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 1: per senior political correspondent. For more from Heather Duplessy Allen Drive, 91 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 1: listen live to news Talks. It'd be from four pm weekdays, 92 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 1: or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.