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Speaker 1: Of all the nutty stuff Trump is up to at

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Speaker 1: the moment, the most agreevous I think is the DOJ.

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Speaker 1: Powell investigation. Now, Jerome Powell I have got not one

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Speaker 1: shadow of doubt, makes, along with his board members, decisions

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Speaker 1: based on traditional economic or monetary thinking. Trump does not.

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Speaker 1: Of course. Of course, you can debate, as we have

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Speaker 1: in this country, whether a governor or a chair or

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Speaker 1: a central bank is doing the right thing or a

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Speaker 1: good thing. But what you don't do is weaponize the

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Speaker 1: law to hunt them down. The central bank's independence is

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Speaker 1: the cornerstone of how a lot of the world's economy works.

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Speaker 1: It matters, which is why so many central bank chiefs

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Speaker 1: came out in defense of Pale, one of which was

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Speaker 1: our newlymitted governor, doctor Bremer. She is now, it seems,

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Speaker 1: in trouble. Winston I didn't take that seriously, actually, But

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Speaker 1: Willis I do, and together I most certainly do. Both

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Speaker 1: now have spoken out against her move. Willis says she

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Speaker 1: should have taken advice. Now Bremen says she didn't want

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Speaker 1: to wake Willis at three in the morning. Now that

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Speaker 1: in itself worries me. I've woken the boss here at

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Speaker 1: three in the morning because my computer password doesn't work,

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Speaker 1: and I would have no hesitation ringing Willie. At a

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Speaker 1: similar time, I worry about Bremen's weakness, but more importantly

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Speaker 1: advice on what Bremen is independent irony? Is the entire

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Speaker 1: debate around Powell is about independence and the defense of it.

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Speaker 1: Can Bremen now only be independent if the government says so?

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Speaker 1: Is that what's going on? And if that's the case,

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Speaker 1: how far removed from the Trump view of the world

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Speaker 1: as Peters and Willis are Willis and Peter's scared of

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Speaker 1: America and the White House? And would the advice have

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Speaker 1: been Look, obviously you're independent, but please keep in mind

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Speaker 1: we're scared witless of the nut job in Washington, so

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Speaker 1: anything you can do to stop things getting messy would

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Speaker 1: be appreciated. Or or if we are universally agree that

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Speaker 1: Bremen should have taken advice, is she in fact a

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Speaker 1: loose unit? Have we hired the wrong person, a person

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Speaker 1: who's put a foot in it having only been in

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Speaker 1: the job about fifteen minutes. So which is it? She's

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Speaker 1: independent and good honor, or she's a puppet of the

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Speaker 1: government and she's in trouble. A basically trouble waiting to happen.

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