WEBVTT - EP 30 - Theo Dāvid 0:00:00.720 --> 0:00:03.320 It's the Flavor Podcast Network. 0:00:03.240 --> 0:00:05.720 Island Roots Auckland Ways. 0:00:06.120 --> 0:00:08.719 This one's for the Brown brothers and sisters who want 0:00:08.720 --> 0:00:13.480 to be one with themselves, their culture, their identity, their roots. 0:00:13.800 --> 0:00:16.000 This is Island Roots Auckland Ways. 0:00:18.960 --> 0:00:21.160 It's holler for love everyone and welcome back to Island 0:00:21.200 --> 0:00:22.919 Roots Auckland Ways. 0:00:23.160 --> 0:00:26.880 Hey everyone, week knew me, week knew you. 0:00:27.040 --> 0:00:29.120 Okay, But by the time you hear this, I'm still 0:00:29.120 --> 0:00:32.800 going with seventy five has. Hopefully I'm not struggling because 0:00:32.920 --> 0:00:35.519 as a time of recording a little bit struggle. 0:00:35.760 --> 0:00:37.680 I feel like maybe your first week will be difficult 0:00:37.680 --> 0:00:39.800 because you're getting into the routine. But I mean, you've 0:00:39.840 --> 0:00:42.880 already got the meal prepping down, girl, You've already got 0:00:42.920 --> 0:00:46.040 the mindset. I feel yes like you wanted to start 0:00:46.040 --> 0:00:48.680 seventy five hard before you did. But we we see 0:00:48.720 --> 0:00:50.600 to Maz, we all see two mares in the Flavor studio. 0:00:50.960 --> 0:00:52.880 You cannot start something five year. 0:00:53.080 --> 0:00:55.960 Before the Radio Awards because we need to get drunk 0:00:56.280 --> 0:00:56.640 the radio. 0:00:57.080 --> 0:00:57.840 We bloody won it. 0:00:58.040 --> 0:00:58.800 We didn't. 0:01:00.200 --> 0:01:03.080 Who this week on the podcast is Theo David. 0:01:03.200 --> 0:01:06.800 O King, a true icon and he's on the most 0:01:06.959 --> 0:01:14.319 iconic TV show in New Zealand. His story short Street. 0:01:15.520 --> 0:01:18.200 I really wanted to introduce him by going is it you? 0:01:18.560 --> 0:01:18.920 Is it me? 0:01:19.200 --> 0:01:22.800 No, it's Theodavid. But then I was like, that's really 0:01:22.880 --> 0:01:23.920 critic a little bit. 0:01:23.959 --> 0:01:26.000 A little bit if I linked. 0:01:25.800 --> 0:01:28.400 Into it, embraced the silliness as our friend created tarriage 0:01:28.440 --> 0:01:29.399 or now I would have said, but. 0:01:29.680 --> 0:01:32.400 Yeah, well here is the chat. Now. 0:01:37.040 --> 0:01:39.960 Welcome back to another episode of Island Routes Auckland Ways. 0:01:40.160 --> 0:01:44.480 We have the incredible, multi talented, amazing Shorty Streetsir, Theo, 0:01:44.640 --> 0:01:54.640 David and the building. A listener of the podcast, so 0:01:54.720 --> 0:01:55.440 we love. 0:01:59.040 --> 0:02:00.000 But do you still live in clean? 0:02:00.240 --> 0:02:07.720 I don't live in Clontalkland button right, My parents are 0:02:07.760 --> 0:02:12.320 still out there them every week. Take them outside the 0:02:12.360 --> 0:02:16.400 house and this house in New Zealand, house where grew up. 0:02:20.760 --> 0:02:28.280 Exacting thing doesn't work out. Welcome to Alan Roots Auckland Ways. 0:02:28.480 --> 0:02:31.000 And you'll know from listening that every episode we talk 0:02:31.040 --> 0:02:33.320 about what we love about home. So whatever homers to you, 0:02:33.360 --> 0:02:36.640 whether that is Clinton or we currently live where you 0:02:36.919 --> 0:02:39.760 feel most grounded. What is home to you and what 0:02:39.800 --> 0:02:42.880 do you love about it? We'll start off first, Alyssa, 0:02:42.919 --> 0:02:44.720 do you care to start off things for us? 0:02:44.880 --> 0:02:49.880 Oh? I'm really having to think now, I think going 0:02:49.880 --> 0:02:56.040 off the Clinton HATI Clinton. 0:02:55.360 --> 0:02:58.880 Everyone always talks about, But there's this Clanton. 0:03:00.560 --> 0:03:02.720 And I remember Clinton town Sinton when it was a 0:03:02.760 --> 0:03:04.560 New world and now it's a pack and Save. 0:03:04.960 --> 0:03:06.000 I also. 0:03:07.720 --> 0:03:11.079 So, I yeah, my dad used to take me every 0:03:11.240 --> 0:03:13.200 Monday night, so you stay my Dad's every Monday night. 0:03:13.520 --> 0:03:14.120 After swimming. 0:03:14.200 --> 0:03:16.440 He would take me to Mecca's at Clinton, which is 0:03:16.480 --> 0:03:18.000 also next to T A B. 0:03:18.200 --> 0:03:19.160 But that's clear. 0:03:24.280 --> 0:03:26.519 I mean after a while I was like, Dad, I 0:03:26.520 --> 0:03:28.480 don't want to do Meccas anymore. So we graduated to 0:03:28.520 --> 0:03:30.320 the Brandy's Roast, which is also in. 0:03:30.320 --> 0:03:31.120 The same conflict. 0:03:31.400 --> 0:03:31.600 Yeah. 0:03:32.040 --> 0:03:35.240 Yeah, so Clinton Town Center, that's where it's sat. 0:03:35.400 --> 0:03:37.000 Do you reckon? They brought a Pack and Save there 0:03:37.040 --> 0:03:40.360 because that's Clinton, of course, but they still have New 0:03:40.400 --> 0:03:42.160 world and Sophomore, which I. 0:03:42.320 --> 0:03:44.560 Like, Yeah, it's not me. I don't know of many 0:03:44.600 --> 0:03:45.040 new worlds. 0:03:45.240 --> 0:03:46.920 There's a New worlds my money sub. 0:03:47.480 --> 0:03:48.240 What's that about? 0:03:48.280 --> 0:03:49.920 What is it about food? 0:03:49.960 --> 0:03:53.400 Stuff? Pack and so be cheap? They'd be eating that 0:03:53.600 --> 0:03:54.800 up in the price of heart. 0:03:55.240 --> 0:03:56.560 Are you a pack and Save shopper for you? 0:03:56.800 --> 0:03:58.520 When I was living in Clinton, because that was like 0:03:58.640 --> 0:04:01.160 down the road, I loved it. They never did bags. 0:04:01.160 --> 0:04:02.440 They yet to grab a box. 0:04:02.240 --> 0:04:06.920 In your One thing about peck your own. 0:04:08.480 --> 0:04:13.400 Save us our because I love peking. 0:04:13.160 --> 0:04:20.800 Shout Cleveland shopping, what loves of my mind free. I 0:04:20.839 --> 0:04:23.120 always think about this. This is my Roman Empire. The 0:04:23.200 --> 0:04:25.120 fact there is a warehouse in Clinton. 0:04:25.680 --> 0:04:27.640 Literally and it's huge. 0:04:27.680 --> 0:04:30.080 It's actually really big, and you can always find stuffinite 0:04:30.680 --> 0:04:33.080 that's Crazy's. 0:04:32.160 --> 0:04:36.080 Like our landmarket. How far do you have from. 0:04:35.560 --> 0:04:39.440 Clinton from Clinton Warehouse? But then also behind the warehouse 0:04:39.480 --> 0:04:45.760 there's the library. This even lean is it a whims 0:04:47.320 --> 0:04:50.359 of course, there's a laundry mass laun. 0:04:50.800 --> 0:04:54.160 Get into it, a pharmacy and doctor, a post office, 0:04:54.720 --> 0:04:58.400 everything you need, everything you could possibly need, and also 0:04:58.640 --> 0:04:59.840 wild people just some. 0:05:01.800 --> 0:05:02.440 Some characters. 0:05:02.920 --> 0:05:05.080 And then there's the Cleanton Bakery as well. 0:05:07.240 --> 0:05:10.120 Yeah, people say that'd be a good ass bakery and. 0:05:12.000 --> 0:05:12.640 I think it's good. 0:05:12.920 --> 0:05:15.960 Okay, okay, baking and slice that is what I recommend. 0:05:17.480 --> 0:05:20.120 Note you gotta get a slice slice Okay. 0:05:20.279 --> 0:05:23.120 They also say that potato top pie was pretty good. 0:05:23.160 --> 0:05:25.960 Yeah, I work went over in the weekend and she 0:05:26.080 --> 0:05:26.960 writes she said it was a. 0:05:29.600 --> 0:05:32.880 Never had You better put some respect one. 0:05:33.400 --> 0:05:34.800 But also don't flock there at once. 0:05:36.360 --> 0:05:40.960 We need to get you. Yeah, like, actually it's not 0:05:41.000 --> 0:05:42.520 that good at all, don't. 0:05:44.080 --> 0:05:45.520 Actually terrible rated? 0:05:45.920 --> 0:05:48.479 Yeah, that was such. 0:05:48.279 --> 0:05:51.320 A good one. 0:05:49.360 --> 0:05:51.960 I think. 0:05:57.040 --> 0:06:01.440 Then what I love about homes So the gonut you 0:06:02.920 --> 0:06:06.960 so classic, Like I went home yesterday, I had guli 0:06:07.080 --> 0:06:09.720 with rice and it's just so simple but so good 0:06:10.040 --> 0:06:12.320 feeds the soul. There's nothing like well that eo. 0:06:13.200 --> 0:06:15.880 Do you know whenever you tell your nonsemone mates about 0:06:17.920 --> 0:06:21.080 they sort of hold it in respect to it more 0:06:21.120 --> 0:06:23.000 so than you. Like, if you say you're busy on Sunday, 0:06:23.000 --> 0:06:26.240 they'll be like, do you have okay? All good? 0:06:29.320 --> 0:06:30.480 I feel like even. 0:06:30.240 --> 0:06:32.360 Though Sunday is one of my days off my friends, no, 0:06:32.600 --> 0:06:34.680 Sundays might not be the best day to try and 0:06:34.720 --> 0:06:36.840 might hang out because there's always going to be stuff 0:06:36.880 --> 0:06:38.600 to do and there's always going to be a family. 0:06:38.400 --> 0:06:41.320 Lunch and is the day of the law the day. 0:06:41.240 --> 0:06:46.000 Of the law? Yeah yeah, yeah, God, bless. 0:06:45.720 --> 0:06:54.360 You, God, bless you listening. Well, thank you Alyssa for 0:06:54.400 --> 0:06:59.080 sharing your blessing. Yeah, what do you love about? 0:07:00.120 --> 0:07:07.000 I love? I love And it's not exclusive to South Auckland, 0:07:07.720 --> 0:07:12.920 but it's those you know, those bongo chips, the Green Packer, 0:07:13.120 --> 0:07:17.679 namely the best flavor. But I don't know something about today. 0:07:17.840 --> 0:07:19.600 Just when I see that pecker, it just reminds me 0:07:19.680 --> 0:07:21.720 of like, oh, that's the like looking way dairy suns. 0:07:21.720 --> 0:07:25.200 There's all like. And when I see those ships, I'm 0:07:25.200 --> 0:07:28.280 always reminded of my like my mum beck in the 0:07:28.360 --> 0:07:31.080 early two thousands, she's still alive, by begging the early 0:07:31.120 --> 0:07:35.600 two thousands, when housey was a massive thing a she 0:07:35.600 --> 0:07:38.160 she'd have Becky in one hand. She'd ever she'd buy 0:07:38.200 --> 0:07:40.960 like the fat capt marker for her numbers and she'd 0:07:40.960 --> 0:07:44.640 walk out with the green packet like that's South. 0:07:44.400 --> 0:07:49.560 Auklands are superior green Gurley or pink gurly. 0:07:49.760 --> 0:07:53.720 Okay, this is when the me being brought up with 0:07:53.720 --> 0:07:59.800 a white mom really, because bongo wasn't huge, but my 0:08:00.040 --> 0:08:02.200 dad would always bring freak what's it called? 0:08:02.880 --> 0:08:03.200 It was like. 0:08:06.080 --> 0:08:08.840 No, no, it was like it was like a mix 0:08:09.160 --> 0:08:09.440 and it. 0:08:09.440 --> 0:08:10.200 Was called like. 0:08:13.600 --> 0:08:16.240 Yes, So that was that's my bongo. 0:08:22.600 --> 0:08:30.760 These are some hood snacks per years. 0:08:33.960 --> 0:08:34.920 Really brings you back. 0:08:37.480 --> 0:08:40.360 I was allowed to go to housy, not always see 0:08:40.360 --> 0:08:41.320 it stay home. 0:08:41.360 --> 0:08:43.280 Oh we never win. We would just drop you just 0:08:43.320 --> 0:08:45.600 do the drop off face. Whenever they would lose, they'd 0:08:45.600 --> 0:08:46.599 be like it's your attitude. 0:08:48.040 --> 0:08:52.160 And then you'd be like and housing has really evolved 0:08:52.200 --> 0:08:57.000 with the times and now do it over zoos, especially 0:08:57.080 --> 0:09:00.520 during COVID, and you would have like your eight your eighth, Yeah, 0:09:00.720 --> 0:09:06.520 and like the housing ladies, they're fast with it. There's 0:09:06.520 --> 0:09:12.319 a lot at steak Yeah. Money, I can't see truly. 0:09:12.120 --> 0:09:12.679 Bring that back. 0:09:13.040 --> 0:09:17.960 And this cost a little bit crisis. Well THEO thank 0:09:17.960 --> 0:09:20.080 you for joining us. People will know you best. Airs 0:09:20.080 --> 0:09:23.040 really yummy. So on Shortland Street, tell us about your 0:09:23.120 --> 0:09:26.040 journey way before Shortland Street when you first started acting. 0:09:26.040 --> 0:09:27.280 We talked a little bit about it. 0:09:27.240 --> 0:09:32.160 Off the mate. So I did my first ever drama 0:09:32.440 --> 0:09:36.320 all acting workshop with Massive Theater Company back in twenty ten. 0:09:37.240 --> 0:09:40.199 And this was while this was my first year in 0:09:40.280 --> 0:09:43.760 high school as well. I went to seek Kendigan's College. 0:09:43.880 --> 0:09:46.480 We said three names, that's right. I was there on 0:09:46.520 --> 0:09:51.600 a Rugby scholarship, and so I remember my first memories 0:09:51.600 --> 0:09:55.839 of drama, also my first memories of rugby and how 0:09:55.880 --> 0:09:58.800 it is clashed and then back I think I might 0:09:58.800 --> 0:10:00.760 have been year twelve or something. I remember I was 0:10:00.800 --> 0:10:03.680 cast in the school play, but I was also in 0:10:03.800 --> 0:10:07.320 the first thing and I just remember having to lie 0:10:07.520 --> 0:10:10.080 to my rugby coaches going, I'm so sorry, so I 0:10:10.080 --> 0:10:12.520 got to go do this chemistry into an or have 0:10:12.600 --> 0:10:16.120 to find out how much vitamin see rabina when actually 0:10:16.160 --> 0:10:18.680 I was going to rehearsals and the stuff. So yeah, 0:10:18.720 --> 0:10:20.400 it was like it was like high school musical but 0:10:20.480 --> 0:10:24.119 like not. And Troy. 0:10:25.960 --> 0:10:31.319 From Glee when he was remember the season, Yeah, when 0:10:31.320 --> 0:10:32.520 he was like having to like. 0:10:34.280 --> 0:10:37.640 Or am I And you know, the more I listened 0:10:37.720 --> 0:10:41.680 to like actors, namely some more Nectars talk about their 0:10:42.120 --> 0:10:45.040 how they got into theater, it's always because like rugby 0:10:45.360 --> 0:10:47.040 was the opposing thing. 0:10:47.240 --> 0:10:49.000 Yeah, and I think there are a lot of us 0:10:49.040 --> 0:10:50.920 with the same story where we were like, man, we 0:10:51.040 --> 0:10:53.040 had this rugby thing, but we also, you know, we 0:10:53.080 --> 0:10:55.240 had this adrenaline rush from being on stage. So it 0:10:55.320 --> 0:10:57.520 was kind of the know which way to choose. Ended 0:10:57.559 --> 0:11:01.040 up choosing drama. Sat Kings to decided just to change 0:11:01.080 --> 0:11:04.920 my rugby scholarship to a drama one. Yeah, it was, honestly, 0:11:04.960 --> 0:11:06.240 it was that easy. In my head, I was like, 0:11:06.280 --> 0:11:07.840 I'm going to get kicked out, my mum's going to 0:11:07.840 --> 0:11:13.719 just own me a monologue and then yeah, I just 0:11:13.760 --> 0:11:15.640 started doing the drama for the rest of my time. 0:11:15.640 --> 0:11:19.800 In high school while still working with Massive Theater Company and. 0:11:19.679 --> 0:11:21.400 Then and so you had stuck with them. 0:11:22.080 --> 0:11:24.040 Yeah, they had stuck with me, to be honest, because 0:11:24.080 --> 0:11:27.240 I was like, like with my mom. Mom definitely can 0:11:27.280 --> 0:11:29.640 be a headache at times. And I remember it was 0:11:29.679 --> 0:11:33.000 my final year of school and I called Samantha Scott, 0:11:33.120 --> 0:11:35.720 who is the artistic director of a massive company, and 0:11:35.760 --> 0:11:38.679 I was just like, hey, I could go to drama 0:11:38.679 --> 0:11:41.360 school or I could stay in Auckland and train with you. 0:11:41.640 --> 0:11:44.040 What do you reckon? And she was very unbiased. She 0:11:44.080 --> 0:11:45.960 was like, this is what to CARDI can offer you. 0:11:46.760 --> 0:11:49.199 What I can offer you this co And I stuck 0:11:49.200 --> 0:11:51.400 with her and we still have a good relationship today, 0:11:51.679 --> 0:11:54.720 still popping in back to the Theater company and stuff. 0:11:56.520 --> 0:12:00.000 The Massive Theater Company in twenty sixteen, twenty seventeen came around, 0:12:00.760 --> 0:12:03.720 was working in a cafe, didn't really know if the 0:12:04.000 --> 0:12:07.400 acting thing was gonna pop. Literally, yeah, just I remember 0:12:07.480 --> 0:12:09.439 I was on the train and I didn't have any 0:12:09.440 --> 0:12:12.680 gigs lined up. I had enrolled into Auckland UNI to 0:12:12.760 --> 0:12:16.400 study occupational therapy and I just remember being on the 0:12:16.440 --> 0:12:19.400 train and I get a call from Midiama mcdell. 0:12:19.559 --> 0:12:20.719 Oh. 0:12:20.800 --> 0:12:24.439 She called me and she goes, hey, for you really 0:12:24.480 --> 0:12:27.079 out of the blue, do you have a Shakespeare monologue handy, 0:12:27.360 --> 0:12:30.160 And like, I love Shakespeare all of high school, so 0:12:30.200 --> 0:12:33.000 my immediate unswer was yes. And she said can you 0:12:33.040 --> 0:12:37.120 go audition today like at ten? And I was like yes, 0:12:37.480 --> 0:12:40.040 And then I just remember going off a phone call, 0:12:40.480 --> 0:12:43.000 just recounting the monologue in my head, going to this 0:12:43.200 --> 0:12:46.040 empty warehouse at the time, doing it for this company 0:12:47.000 --> 0:12:50.080 cast the very next day, quit my job that Sunday, 0:12:50.120 --> 0:12:54.079 and then just off going Shakespeare for like four years. 0:12:54.800 --> 0:12:57.440 I feel like I feel like I just heard the 0:12:57.600 --> 0:12:59.040 plot for a movie right now. 0:13:00.120 --> 0:13:04.400 One phone called Yeah. No, It's just there's so many 0:13:04.440 --> 0:13:05.839 listens you can get from it. But I feel like 0:13:05.880 --> 0:13:07.920 I take something from that story every time I come 0:13:07.960 --> 0:13:10.120 back to it, so there's not like there's not one 0:13:10.240 --> 0:13:11.160 thing to learn from it. 0:13:11.320 --> 0:13:12.000 I guess Yeah. 0:13:13.320 --> 0:13:16.560 Third pop up globe which was the Yeah, which was 0:13:16.559 --> 0:13:19.320 the globe he had rebuilt in Auckland for about four 0:13:19.400 --> 0:13:23.520 years that got shut down in twenty twenty COVID happened. 0:13:24.120 --> 0:13:28.120 Arch jobs are really scarce. Twenty twenty one, rolled around 0:13:28.440 --> 0:13:31.959 got this audition from Shorties after having auditioned for them, 0:13:32.040 --> 0:13:33.280 like five other times. 0:13:33.480 --> 0:13:36.559 Oh okay, so you had auditions before, which. 0:13:36.400 --> 0:13:40.120 Is a common story. Actually yeah, excuse me. And then 0:13:40.200 --> 0:13:44.920 you know the role opened it uh late thirties, early forties, 0:13:45.320 --> 0:13:55.480 Tongulans sit in the waiting room like all these old 0:13:55.480 --> 0:13:58.280 dectors walk out, and I'm just like, what are you 0:13:58.400 --> 0:14:03.160 up to out go and do an audition? Yeah, get 0:14:03.200 --> 0:14:05.440 called back on the Thursday. And I remember when I 0:14:05.440 --> 0:14:07.680 got called back. So they and then you do a 0:14:07.720 --> 0:14:10.280 screen test and there were three other names or two 0:14:10.320 --> 0:14:12.560 other names on the board and I was last, and 0:14:12.720 --> 0:14:15.959 first on the board was Vince Harder's name, and I 0:14:16.000 --> 0:14:20.760 was like, well, it's been a good rite, Yeah, thank you. 0:14:20.840 --> 0:14:24.240 Names THEO just swing and then I need to call 0:14:24.320 --> 0:14:26.840 back the following Monday, going yeah you're on tomorrow. 0:14:27.520 --> 0:14:28.920 Wow, that's weird. 0:14:28.960 --> 0:14:31.400 How this like a phone The phone call happens to 0:14:31.440 --> 0:14:34.640 like pop up a lot of ye but yeah, a 0:14:34.640 --> 0:14:36.360 lot of fast turned around in my life. It's kind 0:14:36.360 --> 0:14:39.880 of ye. Stay ready, it's incredible. That was long. Sorry 0:14:39.920 --> 0:14:41.400 about that, My gosh. 0:14:41.240 --> 0:14:43.280 No, no, no no, but I have so many questions. First 0:14:43.280 --> 0:14:46.840 of all, as someone who wanted to pursue acting as 0:14:46.840 --> 0:14:52.400 a drama practitioner, if you will. I used to walk 0:14:52.400 --> 0:14:56.160 into auditions and oh my, go's so cringe and be like, 0:14:56.240 --> 0:14:57.720 I'm going to be the first time one woman to 0:14:57.760 --> 0:15:00.360 win the Best Actress Oscar Yeah, and then I'm never 0:15:00.440 --> 0:15:03.280 doesn't get the job. But Toy for Caadi was always 0:15:03.280 --> 0:15:05.600 the thing that people would be like, get experienced, then 0:15:05.640 --> 0:15:07.960 go to toy for CADDI like, that is your break? 0:15:08.480 --> 0:15:08.800 Did you? 0:15:09.480 --> 0:15:09.800 Like do? 0:15:10.760 --> 0:15:12.960 Like what was your thinking around not going to Toy 0:15:13.000 --> 0:15:15.520 for Caddy? Because to me, or at least at the time, 0:15:15.920 --> 0:15:18.760 when I was even in first year of unis studying drama, 0:15:18.800 --> 0:15:20.280 I was still like, yeah, I'm just gonna do one 0:15:20.320 --> 0:15:21.840 year here and then I'm gonna go Toy for Caddy. 0:15:22.000 --> 0:15:24.000 Like you know, I thought I was the man, but like, 0:15:24.080 --> 0:15:26.600 why why was it not the right decision for you? 0:15:27.040 --> 0:15:29.720 Well, I mean, I'm sure I think that it wasn't 0:15:29.720 --> 0:15:31.720 the right decision for me, and I think it would 0:15:31.760 --> 0:15:33.360 like if you ask someone else, they'll probably go, I 0:15:33.360 --> 0:15:35.600 don't really like what massive does, so I'll go here. 0:15:35.640 --> 0:15:39.960 But I don't think theo. I I couldn't learn drama 0:15:40.880 --> 0:15:45.720 or theater in an institution, like I couldn't know if 0:15:45.800 --> 0:15:48.000 something is compulsory to me then I kind of feel 0:15:48.040 --> 0:15:50.880 repelled by it. Then I don't really want to do 0:15:50.960 --> 0:15:54.000 it anymore. And Massive Theater Company met up every second 0:15:54.000 --> 0:15:56.600 Saturday of the school term and then did a week 0:15:56.680 --> 0:16:00.400 long intensive and then you kind of just back to 0:16:00.440 --> 0:16:02.120 your life and you could do things during the day 0:16:02.400 --> 0:16:04.480 and it was all hands on, like there were no exams. 0:16:04.520 --> 0:16:07.360 It was never sitting down and talking about stuff. We 0:16:07.440 --> 0:16:10.200 worked a lot at Massive were our and I'm not 0:16:10.240 --> 0:16:12.800 I'm not trying to shun. I never went there. I 0:16:12.840 --> 0:16:13.600 don't really know what. 0:16:13.760 --> 0:16:15.960 I think it's good for young aspiring actors to know 0:16:16.000 --> 0:16:21.600 that these options, Yeah. 0:16:19.880 --> 0:16:24.640 And so I leaned more towards Massive because at the 0:16:24.680 --> 0:16:28.240 basis of all this workers this it's this French idea 0:16:28.360 --> 0:16:31.360 called complicity. And I don't think it has a like 0:16:31.440 --> 0:16:35.040 an English translation, but what it roughly translates to is 0:16:35.400 --> 0:16:38.440 the secret between people or the game between people. And 0:16:38.480 --> 0:16:40.520 it's just this idea that if you ever walk out, 0:16:40.600 --> 0:16:42.680 even in life all but mainly, if you walk out 0:16:42.720 --> 0:16:45.040 on stage with someone else, like the rapport I have 0:16:45.160 --> 0:16:47.400 worth mes here, it will be totally different to the 0:16:47.480 --> 0:16:51.360 rapport I have with you. And it's trying to get 0:16:51.400 --> 0:16:55.800 the audience in on that connection, and then it's about 0:16:55.840 --> 0:16:58.680 trying to put that on stage and not having to 0:16:58.960 --> 0:17:01.880 like whip yourself out the back or you know, pluck 0:17:01.880 --> 0:17:03.800 a nose here so you're gonna have tears when you 0:17:03.800 --> 0:17:06.840 walk out on stage. It's about absolutely being present in 0:17:06.920 --> 0:17:09.439 this moment and going this is meant to be a 0:17:09.440 --> 0:17:11.920 sad scene. It doesn't feel like we're going to cry, 0:17:12.040 --> 0:17:14.080 so you know what, let's not cry. Let's just play 0:17:14.080 --> 0:17:18.159 it as we are right now. And and honestly, like 0:17:19.400 --> 0:17:21.800 you just, Massive was a place about you could be 0:17:21.800 --> 0:17:23.720 a dick and you wouldn't be shamed for You could 0:17:23.720 --> 0:17:25.920 be loud and you wouldn't be shamed for it. I'll 0:17:25.920 --> 0:17:28.600 warm up every time you go there. It's like the 0:17:28.600 --> 0:17:32.480 most intense game of handball ever. And I remember they 0:17:32.520 --> 0:17:35.919 would hold these like they do hold these introduction workshops 0:17:36.000 --> 0:17:39.120 to the company and Sam Scott, she's got the best 0:17:39.200 --> 0:17:42.240 eye in all of theater to me in the New Zealand. 0:17:42.480 --> 0:17:46.640 She will see someone play handball and know if they're right. Yeah, 0:17:47.200 --> 0:17:48.679 you know, I don't know how she does it, but 0:17:48.800 --> 0:17:50.240 you know, you'll get some people who you just come 0:17:50.280 --> 0:17:52.199 and want to play the game, who want to be 0:17:52.359 --> 0:17:54.480 in on that connection, and then you get other people 0:17:54.480 --> 0:17:56.240 who are just like, you know, too cool. You know, 0:17:56.280 --> 0:17:57.920 they don't want to do anything. When do we start 0:17:57.920 --> 0:18:01.160 saying the words? When do we start doing there? But yeah, 0:18:01.200 --> 0:18:05.000 I lean towards messive because yeah, it was physical, a 0:18:05.040 --> 0:18:08.280 rugby background. It was a base and emphasis sorry on 0:18:08.480 --> 0:18:11.560 connection and you yeah, you could just pretend to be 0:18:11.640 --> 0:18:12.840 anything you wanted to know. 0:18:14.760 --> 0:18:16.440 I love that. That's so cool. 0:18:18.000 --> 0:18:20.359 This is as someone I feel like when I was 0:18:20.400 --> 0:18:22.560 studying drama, everyone would always be like. 0:18:22.520 --> 0:18:24.439 Oh, what do you prefer? Stage or screen? But like 0:18:24.520 --> 0:18:25.800 you've had this extensive pop. 0:18:25.720 --> 0:18:28.200 Up globe history. It's a big part of your TV. 0:18:28.560 --> 0:18:31.400 But then you're also your day job. It's on the TV, 0:18:32.040 --> 0:18:32.679 So what is it? 0:18:33.080 --> 0:18:34.080 Is it stage or screen? 0:18:34.560 --> 0:18:40.440 Stage? By five? Like you just theater kids, the theater 0:18:40.560 --> 0:18:42.720 paid as much as screen or film that I don't 0:18:42.760 --> 0:18:46.080 think anyone would ever truly. Yeah, there's nothing like how 0:18:46.119 --> 0:18:48.720 we are talking now. Like a good play will feel 0:18:48.720 --> 0:18:50.880 like you're looking into people's eyes for the first time 0:18:51.359 --> 0:18:53.520 and you know they might feel something and you'll feel 0:18:53.560 --> 0:18:57.520 it too. And especially with screen, you can you know, 0:18:57.560 --> 0:19:00.479 you can have REGOs and you can fake everything on stage. 0:19:00.840 --> 0:19:04.720 If you see a performance, and if they feel awkward, 0:19:05.040 --> 0:19:07.400 you as an audience will feel with them. And there's 0:19:07.440 --> 0:19:11.880 no way that lesson is harder and it's more rewarding. 0:19:12.080 --> 0:19:13.879 Yeah, and there's no. 0:19:16.720 --> 0:19:19.360 And to that point, to the show that you give 0:19:19.440 --> 0:19:22.280 tonight is for that audience, and you will never give 0:19:22.320 --> 0:19:25.680 that show even though you're saying the same lines, doing 0:19:25.720 --> 0:19:29.000 the same moves tomorrow night. You might stumble over a 0:19:29.040 --> 0:19:31.080 line and it might be funny and the audience will laugh. 0:19:31.520 --> 0:19:34.199 Nobody else will ever get that stumble over that line 0:19:34.440 --> 0:19:36.879 ever again, So what about you? 0:19:37.800 --> 0:19:40.800 For sure, there's something about just like letting go of 0:19:40.880 --> 0:19:43.480 every inhibition and just being like fuck. 0:19:43.359 --> 0:19:47.080 It, you know, like that's like the overarching phrase. 0:19:50.000 --> 0:19:52.360 Yeah, Like there's something about being like, okay, we'll ever 0:19:52.400 --> 0:19:54.119 who's it like this, but I'm going to make a 0:19:54.200 --> 0:19:56.640 choice and like maybe the choice isn't going to pay 0:19:56.640 --> 0:19:59.000 off and that's okay, but the choice might pay off 0:19:59.000 --> 0:20:01.960 and then everyone laugh, you know, Like there's just something 0:20:02.000 --> 0:20:03.720 about stage that. 0:20:04.040 --> 0:20:04.240 Yeah. 0:20:04.240 --> 0:20:07.760 And also I just don't think personally not built. I'm 0:20:07.800 --> 0:20:11.600 not built to be a screen actor, but stage stage 0:20:11.640 --> 0:20:15.040 all the way, Like it's in the moment and then 0:20:15.040 --> 0:20:16.479 when it's done, just let it go. 0:20:16.600 --> 0:20:17.719 Yeah, it's done. 0:20:17.920 --> 0:20:20.800 We've probably already talked about this, but for all our 0:20:20.840 --> 0:20:24.040 new listeners, would you go back to your acting day? 0:20:24.280 --> 0:20:31.440 Yes, yes, I'm curious for context. I have a drama degree, 0:20:31.480 --> 0:20:33.960 so my undergrads and Pacific Studies and drama. And I 0:20:34.000 --> 0:20:38.680 think I realized when I was doing drama that I 0:20:38.840 --> 0:20:41.040 like the behind the scenes, like I like the producing 0:20:41.400 --> 0:20:43.720 putting people in the room. But I don't know if 0:20:43.760 --> 0:20:46.760 I enjoyed. That's not true. I love acting. Acting is 0:20:46.800 --> 0:20:48.720 so much fun, but I found it really hard to 0:20:48.800 --> 0:20:51.600 let go of a character or like not hold on 0:20:51.640 --> 0:20:54.440 to whatever they were going through. How do you shake 0:20:54.520 --> 0:20:56.760 off an emotional day on set? Like? 0:20:56.800 --> 0:20:58.240 How do you become THEO again? 0:20:59.440 --> 0:21:02.000