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Speaker 1: You're listening to The Resident Builder podcast with Peter wolf

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Speaker 1: Camp from US talk sid By, sums out, tools out

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Speaker 1: Your summer DIY starts here. The Resident Builder with Peter

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Speaker 1: wolf Camp call eight hundred eighty eight US talk zid.

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Speaker 2: By in the yard.

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Speaker 3: Even when a dog is too old to barn and

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Speaker 3: when you're sitting at the table trying not to start,

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Speaker 3: says a home live when we are ben leaving, when

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Speaker 3: you're there alone, houses a home even when those ghost

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Speaker 3: even when you got around from the ones you love your.

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Speaker 4: Most scream broken pans.

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Speaker 3: Pan and fund locals westall when they're leaving, never has,

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Speaker 3: even when will and even when you're in there alone.

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Speaker 4: Well, a very very good morning and welcome along to

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Speaker 4: the Resident Builder on Sunday here at News Talk c

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Speaker 4: B with me Peter wolf Camp, The Resident Builder. Your

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Speaker 4: opportunity to have a chat about building, about homes, about

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Speaker 4: any form of accommodation or structure that you might dwell

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Speaker 4: within all of those rules regulations we can talk about that.

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Speaker 4: I'm kind of debating with myself whether or not to

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Speaker 4: dive into one kind of tangential thing around building construction,

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Speaker 4: house ownership, rentals, bonds and that sort of thing. There

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Speaker 4: was an interesting story yesterday that I wouldn't mind commenting

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Speaker 4: on that appeared online. But whatever it is that's related

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Speaker 4: to building construction or whether like like me. This week

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Speaker 4: it was a kind of a not quite a rush job,

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Speaker 4: you go, if I leave it any longer, it's likely

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Speaker 4: can't put it off any longer. Needs to be repaired.

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Speaker 4: Let's get stuck into it. In this case, it was

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Speaker 4: a bit of broken concrete on an old driveway that

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Speaker 4: like that. So out there concrete saw up the edges,

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Speaker 4: remove the old concrete, excavate it down. I'm suspecting that

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Speaker 4: in the nineteen sixties anything more than about seventy mili

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Speaker 4: Some builders mix some cement six to one ratio in done,

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Speaker 4: cleaned up half a ton five hundred and twenty kilos

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Speaker 4: Job done right. So if that was one of your jobs,

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Speaker 4: or you've got some jobs that you'd like to discuss,

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Speaker 4: show this morning. So eight hundred and eighty ten eighty

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Speaker 4: forward to chatting with you today about all things building

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Speaker 4: and construction. You can text, of course, it's nine two,

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Speaker 4: nine to two from your mobile phone which is ZBZB.

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Speaker 4: If you're looking at the letters, and if you'd like

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Speaker 4: to email me, it's up and running. Eight hundred, eight hundred,

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Speaker 4: eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the telephone number. The

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Speaker 4: email is Pete at NEWSTALKSEB dot co dot nz. So

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Speaker 4: p e t E Pete at Newstalk SEDB dot co

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Speaker 4: dot Nz. Trust you've had a good week. I tell

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Speaker 4: you what I'm looking at the forecast for Auckland. Twenty

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Speaker 4: I don't know what it was during the course of

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Speaker 4: twenty five degrees. So it's warm. I know in other

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Speaker 4: Almost too hot to pack up. You know, gear gets hot.

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Speaker 4: It gets incredibly difficult to work indirects at the height

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Speaker 4: So I think there's got to be ways of managing that.

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Speaker 4: And I was actually doing the job thinking shits. Imagine

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Speaker 4: if you're doing roofing or something like that at this

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Speaker 4: It's either too hot too cold. It's never that Goldilocks moment,

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Speaker 4: And maybe it hasn't worked out quite as well as

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Speaker 4: eight hundred eighty ten eighty the number to call.

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Speaker 5: John.

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Speaker 4: Let's start with you.

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Speaker 2: Good morning, good morning, greetings, good thank you. The the

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Speaker 2: last couple of weeks you've been talking about a product.

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Speaker 2: It's crystals that you can seal our concrete cracked with. Yes,

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Speaker 2: I just wanted to know the name of it and

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Speaker 2: where to get it from.

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Speaker 4: but the one that I've been using is actually from Semix,

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Speaker 4: the brand. So they do a number of you know,

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Speaker 4: concrete repairs, concrete additives, et cetera, et cetera. And it's

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Speaker 4: And it's so it's like a sementitious paste almost. You

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Speaker 4: it and what happens at a microscopic level is the

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Speaker 4: say for moisture coming through blockwork or masonry products. So

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Speaker 4: But one of the things you can't do afterwards is

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Speaker 4: the other thing is it needs to be bear concrete

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Speaker 2: Is it like, is it possible use it on a

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Speaker 4: I don't know whether it's suitable for pottible water, which

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Speaker 4: is if you're going to use that you know you

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Speaker 4: rain water harvesting. Otherwise, I guess if you're selling an

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Speaker 4: existing concrete water tank, there may also be brush on

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Speaker 4: two of the bigger sort of waterproofing cement additive type companies.

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Speaker 4: But is and is that this the use that you're

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Speaker 4: looking for your tank? It's not coming out through a

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Speaker 4: crack in the tank, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: it was leaking half way up the tank. I never

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Speaker 2: never noticed it. But right, I don't suppose you do

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Speaker 4: No, And it's it's pretty hard conditions inside the water tank,

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Speaker 4: trying to think, you know, have I got every bit

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's the other thing I think I will

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Speaker 2: it's going to be a final solution.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, looks so there's there's some options there, but just

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Speaker 4: check as to whether or not it's suitable for a

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Speaker 4: plottable situation. Most likely LaaS, but just check.

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Speaker 4: I can understand the frustration and appreciate that if you're

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Speaker 4: trying to get. I mean, concre is still concrete water

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Speaker 4: PVC ones have become much more common, but they're still

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Speaker 4: out there, I guess, and the old ones are still around.

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Speaker 4: Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number

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Speaker 4: to call. It is seventeen minutes after six. If you've

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Speaker 4: rules and regulations as well. I think we're going to

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Speaker 4: because there have been so many changes that were introduced,

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Speaker 4: this year, including I think one of the more fascinating

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Speaker 4: things is going to be around this whole mandatory warranties

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Speaker 4: for new builds and for renovations that are over one

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Speaker 4: hundred thousand dollars. So something to keep an eye on. Right,

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Speaker 4: the lines are open. Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty

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Speaker 4: is the number to call back after the break. Call

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Speaker 4: us now we'll get things sorted out. It is seventeen

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Speaker 1: From summer backyard jobs to big Rennolds.

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Speaker 6: Let's talk it through.

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Speaker 1: Call Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty the Resident Builder

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Speaker 1: with Peterwilcab News Talks.

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Speaker 4: Be you're with us talks. Heb Indeed it is twenty

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Speaker 4: one minutes after six eight hundred eighty ten eighty is

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Speaker 4: the number to call. We can talk all things building construction,

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Speaker 4: and it's it's all of the other stuff that goes

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Speaker 4: with either living in or owning or renting properties and

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Speaker 4: what you can do, what products, what materials, what tools

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Speaker 4: you might need to get. And actually it's that interesting

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Speaker 4: a keen di wire, at what point do you go, Actually,

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Speaker 4: you know what, I really need that specific tool to

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Speaker 4: undertake a task, but I might only do it once

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Speaker 4: or twice a year. Is it worth investing in the

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Speaker 4: tool or do I hire? At the same time, I'd

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Speaker 4: say that because I wanted on down to high Pool

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Speaker 4: this week to pick up a mixer. It was not

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Speaker 4: a big job, and typically for smaller jobs, I'll just

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Speaker 4: Peek the apartment towers with the flammable cladding that went

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Speaker 8: Thank you. I just had w heard you say about

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Speaker 8: I've got a year old concrete one that I've tried

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Speaker 4: Essentially it's a plastic liner or a plastic rubber.

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Speaker 4: It's a flexible liner that's inserted. So I guess they

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Speaker 4: that's one option. Someone has text through a business in

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Speaker 4: Napier that cleans and restores concrete tanks uses a product

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Speaker 4: guess the hard thing is if you were trying to do,

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Speaker 10: Yeah, challenging, but yeah, I've had, you know, I had

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Speaker 10: and do all that, and you know, the one that

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Speaker 10: put the bladder and then it's done, isn't it.

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Speaker 4: Sure? It does feel like the bladder is a really

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Speaker 4: like I suppose the other solution is do you take

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Speaker 10: Yeah, this is a very large on ground.

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Speaker 4: Right, Okay, Yeah, I'm with you, yep, Right, it looks

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Speaker 4: I don't know who makes the bladders, it's one of

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Speaker 4: Or this one here where you know someone's got a

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Speaker 4: they apply a particular product and hopefully they'll offer you

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Speaker 10: Man, I've been there, done that.

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Speaker 9: Okay, all right, you know.

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Speaker 10: A particular company that does the bladders or what.

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Speaker 4: I don't it's not I know that they're out there,

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Speaker 4: but I've never had to use one. So yeah, it's

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Speaker 4: good luck. Thank you very much, all the very best.

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Speaker 4: You take care. See Robin eight hundred eighty ten eighty

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Speaker 4: semix crystal proof for sealing it. Is there a similar

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Speaker 4: product you could use for a crack in an aggregate

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Speaker 4: five hundred mill long, say two to three milimeter and

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Speaker 4: I've just done, where it's an old driveway right, used

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Speaker 4: Bloody blah. Anyway, I was actually out looking for us

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Speaker 4: thinking about like a powder a seminititious grout repair that

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Speaker 4: The other thing too. Sometimes when you try and repair

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Speaker 4: you know, I've seen this where people have applied you know,

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Speaker 4: The joint wasn't that obvious, but the repair makes it

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Speaker 4: incredibly obvious. So you're going to be a little bit

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Speaker 4: hunt for that particular semintitious powder. I know it's out there.

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Speaker 4: I just got to find it, which gives me another

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Speaker 4: did yesterday afternoon. Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is

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Speaker 4: the number to call and quickly on the water tanks.

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Speaker 4: I've got two twenty thousand concrete tags tanks used armor

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Speaker 4: Tech DPS oneh one sprayed on the outside and its

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Speaker 4: sealed all of the small cracks. That's interesting. I don't again,

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Speaker 4: it's an interesting suggestion. Haven't used the product, don't know

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Speaker 4: interestingly enough from the outside that sealed all the cracks,

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Speaker 4: I'm guessing a very good morning to you.

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Speaker 11: Hello peee. Just a quick one. Sure, I've got a

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Speaker 4: This is and the cracker is in the hardy plank cladding.

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Speaker 11: It's in the hardy plank itself.

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Speaker 4: Yep, yep. I'm guessing that it's you know, like twenty

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Speaker 11: Yeah, it would be, I think, Yeah, I'm.

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Speaker 4: Not sure about what causes it apart from you know,

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Speaker 4: there'll always be movement. Does the crack start from where

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Speaker 11: It goes from where the overlap is from the plank

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Look, my experience has been that older or older

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Speaker 5: Right?

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Speaker 4: Because there's no there are fibers, but they're all cross

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Speaker 4: it with some good exterior quality sealants, some ub UV

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Speaker 4: simply made myself like a little Soka flashing and just

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Speaker 4: installed that over the top of the hardy plank. And

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Speaker 4: while it's you know, it's it's a belt embraces approach, right.

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Speaker 4: It might not look that pretty because you don't expect

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Speaker 4: And then a bead of sealant on either side.

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Speaker 11: Oh that's good.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, don't too concerned. Ye, go for it.

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Speaker 11: I've got a large branch slider in the back, and

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Speaker 11: I've got the usual doorhead crack above it. Yes, and

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Speaker 11: i put a reinforcing bedding tape in there and plasted

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Speaker 4: But yes, the really hard thing is let's you again

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Speaker 4: is two bits of plaster board with some tape over

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Speaker 4: think inevitably, no matter what you do to the crack,

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Speaker 11: If it was extreme, could you take the jib board

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Speaker 4: Or if you really wanted to. I mean the other

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Speaker 4: thing too, is and again I'm thinking about how let's

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00:25:29,415 --> 00:25:34,655
Speaker 4: say we would have done plasterboard lining. Then is the

432
00:25:34,775 --> 00:25:38,655
Speaker 4: jam rebated or does the window have an architrave around it?

433
00:25:39,535 --> 00:25:41,535
Speaker 7: No, it's rebaited, okay.

434
00:25:41,895 --> 00:25:46,135
Speaker 4: And again, typically what you would do if you're the

435
00:25:46,615 --> 00:25:49,535
Speaker 4: guy doing the plasterboard fixing at the time, you'd cut

436
00:25:49,535 --> 00:25:51,255
Speaker 4: the side sheet and that would go all the way

437
00:25:51,295 --> 00:25:53,215
Speaker 4: to the top, and then you'd cut another piece that

438
00:25:53,255 --> 00:25:55,735
Speaker 4: you dropped into the rebate at the top, so you've

439
00:25:55,775 --> 00:25:59,375
Speaker 4: got a join right at the point where everything moves.

440
00:25:59,415 --> 00:26:03,695
Speaker 4: Whereas ideally, if you're doing plasterboard lining, you don't want

441
00:26:04,095 --> 00:26:07,375
Speaker 4: rebated jams. You want to cut your sheet horizontally and

442
00:26:07,415 --> 00:26:11,935
Speaker 4: so you don't have any joins there. But because that's

443
00:26:11,935 --> 00:26:13,375
Speaker 4: how we used to do it, a lot, you know,

444
00:26:13,455 --> 00:26:15,695
Speaker 4: butt them together over the head because you have to

445
00:26:15,695 --> 00:26:18,415
Speaker 4: try and get it into the rebate, and then you're

446
00:26:18,415 --> 00:26:21,055
Speaker 4: putting a joint at exactly the point where it's going

447
00:26:21,135 --> 00:26:23,935
Speaker 4: to move, and then we're surprised later on that we've

448
00:26:23,935 --> 00:26:29,015
Speaker 4: got cracks. Well, yeah, it's a combination of things. But yes,

449
00:26:29,055 --> 00:26:31,615
Speaker 4: if you really wanted to the other thing, you if

450
00:26:31,655 --> 00:26:34,375
Speaker 4: you really really wanted to get stuck into it, you

451
00:26:34,415 --> 00:26:37,495
Speaker 4: could cut out that entire section of plasterboard and put

452
00:26:37,535 --> 00:26:40,015
Speaker 4: a longer piece that runs all the way across, or

453
00:26:40,015 --> 00:26:42,255
Speaker 4: a bit of a dog leg, or like you say,

454
00:26:42,495 --> 00:26:45,055
Speaker 4: if you wanted to peel that plasterboard off, try and

455
00:26:45,095 --> 00:26:48,015
Speaker 4: get some extra screws in to lock that junction together,

456
00:26:48,135 --> 00:26:50,695
Speaker 4: or even a nail plate. Rebate a nail plate in there,

457
00:26:50,975 --> 00:26:53,975
Speaker 4: and then do the jib board repair. But I think

458
00:26:53,975 --> 00:26:55,815
Speaker 4: for all of that effort, I think I'd just be

459
00:26:55,895 --> 00:26:58,415
Speaker 4: going whenever the crack appears, I'm going to get a

460
00:26:58,415 --> 00:27:00,175
Speaker 4: little bit of filler, a little bit of a touch

461
00:27:00,215 --> 00:27:05,375
Speaker 4: up paint job done. I'll go with exactly.

462
00:27:06,415 --> 00:27:06,735
Speaker 9: Eggs.

463
00:27:06,815 --> 00:27:10,815
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, all right, all the best, All right, take

464
00:27:10,855 --> 00:27:13,175
Speaker 4: care Jim eight hundred eighty ten eighty. We'll talk to

465
00:27:13,255 --> 00:27:16,175
Speaker 4: Craig after the break if you've got some questions that

466
00:27:16,295 --> 00:27:19,935
Speaker 4: you would like answered about building, construction, renovating, just looking

467
00:27:19,975 --> 00:27:23,695
Speaker 4: after your place. And you know, Jim's is the classic.

468
00:27:24,615 --> 00:27:26,455
Speaker 4: If at the time that it was built, it was

469
00:27:26,695 --> 00:27:30,135
Speaker 4: it was assembled put together slightly differently, you probably even

470
00:27:30,175 --> 00:27:31,975
Speaker 4: if there was a little bit of movement in the house,

471
00:27:32,175 --> 00:27:34,575
Speaker 4: you wouldn't get the crack appearing. But if you've got

472
00:27:34,815 --> 00:27:37,855
Speaker 4: movement at that junction, and then you bring two pieces

473
00:27:37,895 --> 00:27:41,415
Speaker 4: of plasterboard together at that junction. It's not surprising that

474
00:27:41,455 --> 00:27:45,135
Speaker 4: you're getting cracks there, so there are Yeah, I find

475
00:27:45,135 --> 00:27:47,415
Speaker 4: it quite fascinating. Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty. The

476
00:27:47,535 --> 00:27:49,335
Speaker 4: number to call it is six thirty.

477
00:27:49,135 --> 00:27:54,895
Speaker 1: Seven Sawdust, Sunshine and Solid Advice. The Resident Builder with

478
00:27:55,175 --> 00:27:58,215
Speaker 1: Peter Wolfcab call oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty News

479
00:27:58,295 --> 00:27:58,935
Speaker 1: Talk ZEBBI.

480
00:27:59,975 --> 00:28:01,895
Speaker 4: Just doing the break had a quick look at the

481
00:28:01,975 --> 00:28:04,015
Speaker 4: products that a couple of people have text through. So

482
00:28:04,135 --> 00:28:11,455
Speaker 4: that map Elastic Smart is waterproofing membrane and it's Marpe,

483
00:28:11,655 --> 00:28:15,575
Speaker 4: so they're well known for their particularly waterproofing solutions for

484
00:28:15,695 --> 00:28:19,935
Speaker 4: under tiles, for example, So that looks like an interesting option.

485
00:28:20,055 --> 00:28:22,855
Speaker 4: And then the Armor Tech GPS one oh one is

486
00:28:22,855 --> 00:28:32,615
Speaker 4: a concrete seiler that has no VOCs water born interesting that, Yeah,

487
00:28:32,735 --> 00:28:34,695
Speaker 4: you could use that on the inside. So and does

488
00:28:35,255 --> 00:28:36,815
Speaker 4: the other one does a bit of a repair to

489
00:28:37,055 --> 00:28:39,735
Speaker 4: over small areas. So both of them look like quite

490
00:28:39,735 --> 00:28:43,455
Speaker 4: interesting products. I eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the

491
00:28:43,575 --> 00:28:48,375
Speaker 4: number to call. I just saw the Grenfeld towers because

492
00:28:48,375 --> 00:28:50,615
Speaker 4: this popped up out of kind of nowhere, as these

493
00:28:50,615 --> 00:28:59,935
Speaker 4: things do. Yeah, thanks Michael, have a look at that

494
00:29:00,135 --> 00:29:02,455
Speaker 4: I eight hundred eighty ten eighty the number to call Craig.

495
00:29:02,535 --> 00:29:03,255
Speaker 4: Good morning.

496
00:29:04,335 --> 00:29:09,495
Speaker 12: He's so good morning. I have a house in christ Church.

497
00:29:09,615 --> 00:29:14,775
Speaker 12: It's had extensive earthquake repairs, like seven hundred and fifty thousand.

498
00:29:14,775 --> 00:29:20,895
Speaker 12: They've spent on a sofa. And the problem is it

499
00:29:21,255 --> 00:29:26,295
Speaker 12: still leaks when it when it rains, the water water

500
00:29:26,415 --> 00:29:31,975
Speaker 12: comes in through the step in the foundation of the house.

501
00:29:33,055 --> 00:29:36,215
Speaker 12: And it only happens when it's really wet. And the

502
00:29:36,295 --> 00:29:41,375
Speaker 12: found that the subdivision, which is on a slope and

503
00:29:41,735 --> 00:29:47,135
Speaker 12: the houses sit on clay, and the subdivision basically oozes

504
00:29:47,175 --> 00:29:50,615
Speaker 12: with water and and and when it when it oozes

505
00:29:50,655 --> 00:29:52,975
Speaker 12: with water, it comes down and that hits the step

506
00:29:53,015 --> 00:30:00,735
Speaker 12: in the foundation and and comes in inside. And what

507
00:30:00,895 --> 00:30:06,135
Speaker 12: has happened is when they in the earthquakes, the bottom

508
00:30:06,175 --> 00:30:10,735
Speaker 12: of the foundation of the house sunk into the ground

509
00:30:11,335 --> 00:30:21,015
Speaker 12: by eighty millimeters and the upper story tilted eighty milimeters.

510
00:30:21,695 --> 00:30:28,655
Speaker 12: And so their earthquake repairs they lifted the bottom downstairs

511
00:30:28,935 --> 00:30:37,975
Speaker 12: eighty milimeters evenly and took the slope upstairs and level again.

512
00:30:39,615 --> 00:30:41,815
Speaker 12: So does that make sense?

513
00:30:42,335 --> 00:30:43,135
Speaker 4: Yep, sure does.

514
00:30:44,135 --> 00:30:50,695
Speaker 12: And they were specifically warned in an engineer's report that

515
00:30:50,775 --> 00:30:55,255
Speaker 12: they had to do it very carefully and evenly, so

516
00:30:55,335 --> 00:31:00,735
Speaker 12: it's not to crack the foundation wall in the middle

517
00:31:00,775 --> 00:31:05,175
Speaker 12: of the house. And they didn't, and they broke the

518
00:31:05,215 --> 00:31:10,775
Speaker 12: cell in the on the back of that wall in

519
00:31:10,455 --> 00:31:15,015
Speaker 12: the middle of the house. And now and there it leaks.

520
00:31:15,775 --> 00:31:20,415
Speaker 12: And so when it rains heavily in the middle of

521
00:31:20,415 --> 00:31:24,535
Speaker 12: the winter, water comes in throught through it into the house.

522
00:31:25,055 --> 00:31:27,375
Speaker 4: And when you say water comes through, is it like

523
00:31:27,775 --> 00:31:30,055
Speaker 4: you know, pulling on the floor or is it just

524
00:31:30,295 --> 00:31:34,255
Speaker 4: evidenced by some general dampness.

525
00:31:35,095 --> 00:31:42,095
Speaker 12: No, No, it runs into the house and it's it's

526
00:31:42,335 --> 00:31:45,095
Speaker 12: it's like the carpet cleaners have to come in with

527
00:31:45,175 --> 00:31:50,735
Speaker 12: big struction machines and clean up marted water off the carpet.

528
00:31:53,015 --> 00:31:57,975
Speaker 12: So it's quite an insurance came and if you see,

529
00:31:58,055 --> 00:32:00,815
Speaker 12: has to wear it.

530
00:31:59,695 --> 00:32:05,535
Speaker 4: So so from from the first time that you know

531
00:32:05,615 --> 00:32:08,415
Speaker 4: this is probably happened a couple of times since the

532
00:32:08,495 --> 00:32:14,775
Speaker 4: repairs were completed. What's the response from the contractor who's

533
00:32:14,815 --> 00:32:15,455
Speaker 4: done the work.

534
00:32:18,055 --> 00:32:21,135
Speaker 12: They don't want to know about it. They've repaired the

535
00:32:21,215 --> 00:32:26,215
Speaker 12: house and and and it's been signed off and they

536
00:32:26,255 --> 00:32:36,175
Speaker 12: just say go back to EQUC. EQUC says we'll pay

537
00:32:36,215 --> 00:32:40,015
Speaker 12: for the cleanup and that and we want to see

538
00:32:40,015 --> 00:32:43,135
Speaker 12: it happen again, And so.

539
00:32:42,695 --> 00:32:45,535
Speaker 4: They want to see it happen again again.

540
00:32:48,255 --> 00:32:54,655
Speaker 12: Right, So now nine years later and everything's been cleaned

541
00:32:54,695 --> 00:32:57,135
Speaker 12: up and repaired, but this one one wall in the

542
00:32:57,215 --> 00:32:59,815
Speaker 12: house is still left open with no jib on it.

543
00:33:00,335 --> 00:33:05,015
Speaker 12: And and what we're waiting for it to happen again.

544
00:33:07,135 --> 00:33:09,535
Speaker 4: Has it happened again in the last nine years.

545
00:33:10,135 --> 00:33:13,495
Speaker 12: No, No, But we're waiting for the really bad weather

546
00:33:13,975 --> 00:33:17,935
Speaker 12: and the subdivision to be oozen with water for this

547
00:33:18,015 --> 00:33:21,895
Speaker 12: type of situation to happen again.

548
00:33:22,095 --> 00:33:26,175
Speaker 4: Just so I'm absolutely clear. Obviously, the earthquake happened, the

549
00:33:26,215 --> 00:33:30,815
Speaker 4: repairs happened, the repairs were done. There was a failure

550
00:33:31,055 --> 00:33:34,295
Speaker 4: nine years ago. But in the intervening nine years, have

551
00:33:34,415 --> 00:33:36,095
Speaker 4: you ever had any water through.

552
00:33:38,255 --> 00:33:42,415
Speaker 12: Not again, No, but but we're waiting for it.

553
00:33:42,575 --> 00:33:44,375
Speaker 4: What makes you think that it's going to happen though,

554
00:33:44,375 --> 00:33:46,855
Speaker 4: If it hasn't happened in the last nine years, why

555
00:33:46,895 --> 00:33:48,175
Speaker 4: do you think it's going to happen again?

556
00:33:48,975 --> 00:33:52,575
Speaker 12: Because I didn't, they haven't haven't repaired that all in

557
00:33:52,655 --> 00:33:57,815
Speaker 12: that time has happened. It's happened once, but it could

558
00:33:57,895 --> 00:33:58,535
Speaker 12: happen again.

559
00:34:00,775 --> 00:34:04,855
Speaker 4: But if it with a great respect I'm sort of

560
00:34:04,895 --> 00:34:10,255
Speaker 4: thinking that if it hasn't happened nine years since, I'm

561
00:34:10,255 --> 00:34:14,575
Speaker 4: not sure. I'm not sure what you're waiting for. And

562
00:34:14,855 --> 00:34:18,215
Speaker 4: if it's left exposed, I mean, could you get a

563
00:34:18,255 --> 00:34:22,495
Speaker 4: contractor to come and do a bandage over that junction?

564
00:34:22,855 --> 00:34:26,895
Speaker 4: And I can understand the dynamics of the slabs moving,

565
00:34:27,055 --> 00:34:30,735
Speaker 4: tearing the waterproofing. You've got groundwater coming up, hydraulicing up

566
00:34:31,015 --> 00:34:34,295
Speaker 4: and forcing its way through there. But I just wonder

567
00:34:34,295 --> 00:34:37,615
Speaker 4: whether at a certain stage, would you, for your own wellbeing,

568
00:34:37,815 --> 00:34:41,215
Speaker 4: stop waiting, get someone in do a bandage over that,

569
00:34:41,615 --> 00:34:44,375
Speaker 4: replace the jib, kind of get on with things.

570
00:34:44,935 --> 00:34:48,575
Speaker 12: So when they built that wall, they will have melt

571
00:34:48,655 --> 00:34:52,335
Speaker 12: shaled behind it here on the back of the wall.

572
00:34:52,375 --> 00:34:54,655
Speaker 12: And then so now we're looking at the face of

573
00:34:54,695 --> 00:34:57,735
Speaker 12: the wall, which is on the inside of the house. Now,

574
00:34:58,055 --> 00:35:01,495
Speaker 12: so how do your waterproof again?

575
00:35:01,735 --> 00:35:06,015
Speaker 4: You know, products like that seminititious material, that crystalline solution

576
00:35:07,015 --> 00:35:10,495
Speaker 4: or in a POxy bandage or something like that, and

577
00:35:10,575 --> 00:35:12,735
Speaker 4: then just go because you know, even with the mole

578
00:35:12,775 --> 00:35:15,095
Speaker 4: seal on the back, it wouldn't have been underneath the

579
00:35:15,135 --> 00:35:18,295
Speaker 4: foundations and all the rest of it. Not because that's

580
00:35:18,375 --> 00:35:21,055
Speaker 4: just not how we built back then. I just wonder

581
00:35:21,095 --> 00:35:24,815
Speaker 4: whether if you targeted that repair, got that done, and

582
00:35:24,855 --> 00:35:28,095
Speaker 4: then you get it lined and kind of move not

583
00:35:28,255 --> 00:35:30,775
Speaker 4: move on, but I would you know, if you said

584
00:35:30,775 --> 00:35:32,775
Speaker 4: to me, look, it's leaked a number of times over

585
00:35:32,775 --> 00:35:35,095
Speaker 4: the last couple of years, you'd probably take a different approach.

586
00:35:35,135 --> 00:35:39,055
Speaker 4: But I just wonder whether if it was me, I

587
00:35:39,095 --> 00:35:42,175
Speaker 4: would get it repaired with a semititious bandage of some

588
00:35:42,295 --> 00:35:46,615
Speaker 4: description and then get it religned and carry on and

589
00:35:46,655 --> 00:35:51,255
Speaker 4: if it photograph it gets some evidence of it, and

590
00:35:51,295 --> 00:35:54,095
Speaker 4: then if it does fail you could always go back

591
00:35:54,095 --> 00:35:56,975
Speaker 4: to the insurer again. After that, Good luck with all

592
00:35:56,975 --> 00:35:59,135
Speaker 4: of that. Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty. You will

593
00:35:59,175 --> 00:36:01,815
Speaker 4: take short break and then we'll talk to Kate after

594
00:36:01,855 --> 00:36:02,495
Speaker 4: the break.

595
00:36:02,815 --> 00:36:06,615
Speaker 1: Sorting those sum effectses before the barbecue crowd arrives. Called

596
00:36:06,975 --> 00:36:10,495
Speaker 1: the Resident Builder with Peter Wolfcab. Call Oh eight hundred

597
00:36:10,575 --> 00:36:12,695
Speaker 1: eighty to eighty News Talk ZEBBI.

598
00:36:13,895 --> 00:36:15,935
Speaker 4: Rightio your news talks. You'd be coming up news time,

599
00:36:16,015 --> 00:36:19,095
Speaker 4: of course, about nine minutes away. But before then we'll

600
00:36:19,095 --> 00:36:21,095
Speaker 4: talk to Kate and we'll probably have time for one

601
00:36:21,095 --> 00:36:23,295
Speaker 4: more call as well. Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty

602
00:36:23,455 --> 00:36:26,895
Speaker 4: is that number to call? Kate, Good morning, Good.

603
00:36:26,655 --> 00:36:30,015
Speaker 13: Morning, Pete. I hope this is a more straightforward question

604
00:36:30,135 --> 00:36:34,735
Speaker 13: for you, but it may not be. This problem I

605
00:36:34,775 --> 00:36:39,135
Speaker 13: have is about a quider deck which is about nineteen

606
00:36:39,255 --> 00:36:41,535
Speaker 13: years old. It was well built at the time. It

607
00:36:41,615 --> 00:36:44,975
Speaker 13: got some torture under it. It's fine. There's no daking here.

608
00:36:45,175 --> 00:36:46,375
Speaker 4: Okay, yep, thought in good.

609
00:36:46,735 --> 00:36:51,135
Speaker 13: It's in pretty good condition. I think I've replaced one board.

610
00:36:51,215 --> 00:36:53,735
Speaker 13: I may need to do more at some stage soon.

611
00:36:54,495 --> 00:36:58,215
Speaker 13: And for a few years I oiled it with some

612
00:36:58,255 --> 00:37:02,455
Speaker 13: penetrating oil and its great. And then unfortunately someone talked

613
00:37:02,535 --> 00:37:05,935
Speaker 13: me into putting some aqua deck down, which I'm not

614
00:37:05,975 --> 00:37:10,375
Speaker 13: happy about. So I repeated that a few times. And

615
00:37:10,415 --> 00:37:16,575
Speaker 13: the aqua dec actually has lasted quite well, and I'm

616
00:37:16,615 --> 00:37:19,415
Speaker 13: ready to put something else on. I haven't probably put

617
00:37:19,455 --> 00:37:22,775
Speaker 13: anything on in about five years. I've used a little

618
00:37:22,775 --> 00:37:26,495
Speaker 13: bit of oxalic acid on it recently, but I'll do more.

619
00:37:27,855 --> 00:37:30,815
Speaker 13: I would like to stain it with oil again, and

620
00:37:30,895 --> 00:37:34,775
Speaker 13: I've heard you say many times that's not possible, but

621
00:37:35,735 --> 00:37:39,055
Speaker 13: I've looked into sanding it. And then I spoke with

622
00:37:39,335 --> 00:37:42,175
Speaker 13: Cabots the other day and they said I could put

623
00:37:42,255 --> 00:37:48,375
Speaker 13: something on which is a stripper and it's intragrain, a

624
00:37:48,575 --> 00:37:51,255
Speaker 13: sort of paint stripper. So I thought about doing that,

625
00:37:51,295 --> 00:37:53,575
Speaker 13: and I spoke with someone and he said, oh, no,

626
00:37:53,695 --> 00:37:57,335
Speaker 13: don't do that because it will damage the wood. You're

627
00:37:57,335 --> 00:38:02,015
Speaker 13: better off to stand it. And at nineteen years old,

628
00:38:02,215 --> 00:38:06,415
Speaker 13: I don't know if it's worth investing much for a

629
00:38:06,575 --> 00:38:07,135
Speaker 13: standing it.

630
00:38:07,175 --> 00:38:08,855
Speaker 4: I don't mind putting it right, yes.

631
00:38:08,695 --> 00:38:12,135
Speaker 13: Elbow grease in, but if I have someone stand it,

632
00:38:12,175 --> 00:38:15,695
Speaker 13: which could be you know, thousand dollars, it's about twenty

633
00:38:15,695 --> 00:38:18,535
Speaker 13: five or thirty square meters, Am I going to just

634
00:38:18,575 --> 00:38:20,415
Speaker 13: be replacing it in a couple of years because it's

635
00:38:20,455 --> 00:38:22,495
Speaker 13: so old? And I know that's hard for you to

636
00:38:22,495 --> 00:38:24,455
Speaker 13: say because you can't see the condition of it red,

637
00:38:24,695 --> 00:38:27,095
Speaker 13: But or I could just put aquedec on it a

638
00:38:27,095 --> 00:38:29,175
Speaker 13: few more times than hope for the best.

639
00:38:29,615 --> 00:38:32,655
Speaker 4: Just looking online, it sounds like the product that you're

640
00:38:32,695 --> 00:38:35,815
Speaker 4: talking about is able to be applied over existing coatings.

641
00:38:35,815 --> 00:38:37,375
Speaker 4: Because one of the things that it's a bit of

642
00:38:37,375 --> 00:38:39,575
Speaker 4: a mantra, you know, when we're talking to the Razine

643
00:38:39,615 --> 00:38:43,375
Speaker 4: guys and that sort of thing here, is that, broadly

644
00:38:43,415 --> 00:38:48,775
Speaker 4: speaking for decks, for like a natural finish over existing

645
00:38:48,815 --> 00:38:54,455
Speaker 4: timber decks, once you've chosen our system which is either

646
00:38:54,495 --> 00:38:57,455
Speaker 4: going to be a penetrating oil stain of some description

647
00:38:57,775 --> 00:39:02,255
Speaker 4: which soaks in sits inside the timber, or a film

648
00:39:02,415 --> 00:39:07,015
Speaker 4: forming type one. You then can't interchange the two, is

649
00:39:07,055 --> 00:39:09,855
Speaker 4: the typical rule. So if you've started with oil, stick

650
00:39:09,895 --> 00:39:13,055
Speaker 4: with oils. If you started with a coating, then stick

651
00:39:13,095 --> 00:39:15,615
Speaker 4: with that, because obviously, if you put oil over the

652
00:39:15,615 --> 00:39:18,575
Speaker 4: top of a coating, that will just sit on the surface,

653
00:39:18,615 --> 00:39:20,575
Speaker 4: it won't get to the timber, and then you'll get

654
00:39:20,935 --> 00:39:23,455
Speaker 4: like a sticky residue that you won't be it'll take

655
00:39:23,455 --> 00:39:27,375
Speaker 4: a lot of effort to remove. I guess, just reading

656
00:39:27,375 --> 00:39:29,855
Speaker 4: through the literature, if let's say there was an oil

657
00:39:29,895 --> 00:39:34,655
Speaker 4: on there before and you've applied this particular film forming

658
00:39:34,735 --> 00:39:38,095
Speaker 4: product over the top, as long as it's bonded, it

659
00:39:38,175 --> 00:39:41,895
Speaker 4: might have decayed or worn a little bit. But I'm

660
00:39:41,935 --> 00:39:44,095
Speaker 4: wondering whether the most straightforward thing to do would be

661
00:39:44,295 --> 00:39:46,975
Speaker 4: just to keep with that system and apply more of that.

662
00:39:47,455 --> 00:39:49,735
Speaker 4: Once you've given the deck a thorough clean, which is

663
00:39:50,175 --> 00:39:53,495
Speaker 4: a proprietary sort of deck clean, apply it, give it

664
00:39:53,535 --> 00:39:55,975
Speaker 4: a scrub with a broom, rinse it off, let that

665
00:39:56,175 --> 00:39:59,855
Speaker 4: dry go over the top. In terms of longevity, I

666
00:39:59,895 --> 00:40:03,775
Speaker 4: mean I would expect that you'll get another five to

667
00:40:03,935 --> 00:40:07,135
Speaker 4: ten years out of those boards before they might need replacing.

668
00:40:07,535 --> 00:40:11,655
Speaker 4: I think, you know, thirty years is not would be

669
00:40:11,735 --> 00:40:17,735
Speaker 4: a good run. More than that unlikely. I think typically

670
00:40:18,775 --> 00:40:20,815
Speaker 4: you know they're being ripped up and replaced by then.

671
00:40:20,895 --> 00:40:24,895
Speaker 4: I'm just trying to think about I mean, actually I

672
00:40:24,975 --> 00:40:27,975
Speaker 4: replaced a deck it's five years ago now that I

673
00:40:28,135 --> 00:40:33,335
Speaker 4: built in nineteen ninety one. Now that was pine and

674
00:40:33,415 --> 00:40:36,575
Speaker 4: it just reached the end of its life. Right, some

675
00:40:36,695 --> 00:40:38,735
Speaker 4: boards had started to rot. It's one of those things

676
00:40:38,775 --> 00:40:40,775
Speaker 4: like not everything rots all at the same time or

677
00:40:40,815 --> 00:40:43,575
Speaker 4: decays all at the same time, but enough of it

678
00:40:43,255 --> 00:40:45,455
Speaker 4: to mean that if you were to do a target

679
00:40:45,495 --> 00:40:48,535
Speaker 4: to repair, it would look a bit patchwork. So in

680
00:40:48,615 --> 00:40:50,895
Speaker 4: this instance, it was just the option of well, striple

681
00:40:50,935 --> 00:40:53,775
Speaker 4: the decking off the joys were actually still in reasonable condition,

682
00:40:54,175 --> 00:40:56,855
Speaker 4: and just laid new decking over the top. And maybe

683
00:40:56,895 --> 00:40:59,575
Speaker 4: you'd look at your deck at twenty five square meters,

684
00:40:59,695 --> 00:41:02,215
Speaker 4: it's not you know, it's not tiny, but it's also

685
00:41:02,295 --> 00:41:04,575
Speaker 4: not massive. You just go, okay, well, if I give

686
00:41:04,615 --> 00:41:06,415
Speaker 4: it a coat, that'll give me a couple more years,

687
00:41:06,455 --> 00:41:08,335
Speaker 4: and in a few years time, if I'm still here,

688
00:41:08,695 --> 00:41:11,135
Speaker 4: I'll just remove the dicking and relay it with new dicking.

689
00:41:13,615 --> 00:41:16,095
Speaker 13: Yeah, that was certainly a thought I had. Do you

690
00:41:16,135 --> 00:41:19,535
Speaker 13: think it might be worth standing it? Would it survive sounding?

691
00:41:20,255 --> 00:41:20,455
Speaker 5: Yeah?

692
00:41:20,535 --> 00:41:22,215
Speaker 4: Well, and I you know, I don't know that I'd

693
00:41:22,215 --> 00:41:23,855
Speaker 4: sort of get the big Oh, I've got a run

694
00:41:23,895 --> 00:41:26,215
Speaker 4: for news. I'll be back with you in a moment.

695
00:41:27,095 --> 00:41:30,575
Speaker 1: No worries if it creaks, leaks, cracks or squeaks, some

696
00:41:30,855 --> 00:41:32,815
Speaker 1: is the time to get it, sort of call oh,

697
00:41:32,815 --> 00:41:35,415
Speaker 1: eight hundred and eighty to eighty the Resident Builder with

698
00:41:35,655 --> 00:41:37,175
Speaker 1: Peter Wolf cavee us talk.

699
00:41:37,295 --> 00:41:40,735
Speaker 4: Zebbie didn't know what time.

700
00:41:40,575 --> 00:41:42,575
Speaker 2: It was that swill.

701
00:41:44,215 --> 00:41:47,535
Speaker 12: I lean back on my rage deal.

702
00:41:48,975 --> 00:41:53,055
Speaker 4: Some catwardly and down rock and roll, lot of sol.

703
00:41:56,415 --> 00:41:59,055
Speaker 12: Then the loud sound that seemed.

704
00:41:58,775 --> 00:42:03,535
Speaker 4: To they I came back like a little vie naa wave.

705
00:42:03,575 --> 00:42:06,455
Speaker 14: Of the oh.

706
00:42:06,575 --> 00:42:07,375
Speaker 5: D jed that.

707
00:42:11,535 --> 00:42:13,815
Speaker 4: Alrighty, oh, welcome back to the show. My name's pet

708
00:42:13,815 --> 00:42:16,255
Speaker 4: Wolf Kempt, the resident Builder, and this is the resident

709
00:42:16,295 --> 00:42:19,135
Speaker 4: Builder on Sunday a little bit David Bowie there. I

710
00:42:19,175 --> 00:42:21,535
Speaker 4: was listening to the radiosteray and someone said it's ten

711
00:42:21,615 --> 00:42:25,535
Speaker 4: years since he passed away at like age sixty eight

712
00:42:25,655 --> 00:42:29,575
Speaker 4: or something like that. So I'm terribly old man at

713
00:42:29,615 --> 00:42:31,935
Speaker 4: that stage. Anyway, one of my favorites, David Bowie, there

714
00:42:31,975 --> 00:42:34,655
Speaker 4: we go. Seven oh seven is the time if you've

715
00:42:34,695 --> 00:42:37,095
Speaker 4: got a question of a building nature. Oh, eight hundred

716
00:42:37,135 --> 00:42:39,295
Speaker 4: and eighty ten eighty is the number to call. We

717
00:42:39,535 --> 00:42:42,815
Speaker 4: kind of charged into the news cake just before the break.

718
00:42:43,855 --> 00:42:47,255
Speaker 4: So decking wise, I think to wrap up our conversation,

719
00:42:47,775 --> 00:42:50,655
Speaker 4: I reckon, if the deck's already twenty years old, I

720
00:42:50,695 --> 00:42:52,535
Speaker 4: think you'll get a couple more years out of it,

721
00:42:53,255 --> 00:42:55,975
Speaker 4: in which case another coating over the top should be fine.

722
00:42:56,015 --> 00:42:56,695
Speaker 4: What do you reckon?

723
00:42:58,175 --> 00:43:01,535
Speaker 13: Well, I was planning to do another coating, but it

724
00:43:01,615 --> 00:43:04,575
Speaker 13: was whether it was worse trying to get down to

725
00:43:05,135 --> 00:43:08,495
Speaker 13: the natural wood again start reoiling it, which would spot

726
00:43:08,575 --> 00:43:12,375
Speaker 13: thousand dollars to stand it, or manually stripping it with

727
00:43:12,455 --> 00:43:17,015
Speaker 13: a chemical or just carrying on with the aqueduc because

728
00:43:17,015 --> 00:43:19,175
Speaker 13: it's only you know, the age of it, which is

729
00:43:19,535 --> 00:43:22,855
Speaker 13: it is? But if I do that and I think, oh,

730
00:43:22,935 --> 00:43:25,175
Speaker 13: next year I've got more energy and you've got more,

731
00:43:27,735 --> 00:43:28,975
Speaker 13: have I have I?

732
00:43:29,255 --> 00:43:29,495
Speaker 3: Well?

733
00:43:29,495 --> 00:43:34,935
Speaker 4: Effectively, yeah, I mean some of the strippers are quite

734
00:43:34,975 --> 00:43:37,735
Speaker 4: you know, the products are quite good and reasonably easy

735
00:43:37,775 --> 00:43:40,975
Speaker 4: to use and not as kind of aggressive in terms

736
00:43:41,015 --> 00:43:42,815
Speaker 4: of how they attack your skin and that sort of

737
00:43:42,855 --> 00:43:45,775
Speaker 4: things in the year's gone by, so you could, But

738
00:43:45,815 --> 00:43:49,255
Speaker 4: then you've also got surfaces that are not regular, lots

739
00:43:49,255 --> 00:43:53,575
Speaker 4: of gaps in between, and you've got a waterproofing membrane

740
00:43:53,575 --> 00:43:57,575
Speaker 4: below it. Yeah, the torch on see, I'd be a

741
00:43:57,575 --> 00:44:04,535
Speaker 4: little bit concerned around putting some form of stripper onto timber,

742
00:44:04,575 --> 00:44:07,335
Speaker 4: which is inevitably some of it's going to land on

743
00:44:07,375 --> 00:44:10,815
Speaker 4: that waterproofing. And do you take the risk that it's

744
00:44:10,855 --> 00:44:12,575
Speaker 4: going to deteriorate the waterproofing.

745
00:44:13,935 --> 00:44:17,655
Speaker 13: Well, I asked that questions. Well, when I phoned up

746
00:44:17,735 --> 00:44:20,735
Speaker 13: Cabots and they recommended integrined, she said, no, no, it's

747
00:44:20,735 --> 00:44:23,055
Speaker 13: a water based it'll be fine. But I agree with you, Pete,

748
00:44:23,095 --> 00:44:25,295
Speaker 13: it is a bit of a Oh you don't want

749
00:44:25,295 --> 00:44:28,655
Speaker 13: to do anything to upset the waterproofing. No, not really

750
00:44:28,775 --> 00:44:29,575
Speaker 13: respectful of.

751
00:44:29,535 --> 00:44:34,655
Speaker 4: It's the waterproofing that's doing the work. Yeah, good luck

752
00:44:34,655 --> 00:44:41,535
Speaker 4: with your decision. Would this be someone just with a

753
00:44:41,535 --> 00:44:44,855
Speaker 4: belt sander or would you look at getting like a

754
00:44:44,895 --> 00:44:47,535
Speaker 4: floor sander and with one of those big drums enders.

755
00:44:48,015 --> 00:44:48,375
Speaker 4: I don't know.

756
00:44:48,375 --> 00:44:48,575
Speaker 5: If I.

757
00:44:51,135 --> 00:44:53,335
Speaker 13: Don't know, do you think I'm better with a belt center?

758
00:44:55,055 --> 00:44:56,855
Speaker 4: Well, it's a lot more work. But then you're talking

759
00:44:56,935 --> 00:45:00,575
Speaker 4: to a person that quite a long time ago, when

760
00:45:00,615 --> 00:45:03,655
Speaker 4: we couldn't afford to get a belt sander sanded an

761
00:45:03,815 --> 00:45:06,895
Speaker 4: entire fifty square meter unit with a belt sander on

762
00:45:06,975 --> 00:45:11,295
Speaker 4: his hands and knees, still be all the I know,

763
00:45:11,655 --> 00:45:14,455
Speaker 4: I know, I know, I've still got a photograph of

764
00:45:14,495 --> 00:45:19,215
Speaker 4: myself doing that sometime nearly nineteen nineties. Anyway, don't be

765
00:45:19,415 --> 00:45:22,175
Speaker 4: like me. Get someone to do it alright, all the

766
00:45:22,295 --> 00:45:24,415
Speaker 4: very mess you with all your decision making you take

767
00:45:24,455 --> 00:45:29,255
Speaker 4: care a lovely chat, take care. Yes, Somewhere along the line,

768
00:45:31,015 --> 00:45:32,935
Speaker 4: I think I was still in like short studies and

769
00:45:32,975 --> 00:45:38,895
Speaker 4: the jandles with the mus to be fair using a

770
00:45:38,935 --> 00:45:43,735
Speaker 4: belt sander, four inch belt sander to sand the entire house. Oh,

771
00:45:43,775 --> 00:45:46,295
Speaker 4: eight hundred eighty ten eighty, that was back in the day.

772
00:45:46,695 --> 00:45:49,375
Speaker 4: Right eleven minutes after seven lines are open, the number

773
00:45:49,375 --> 00:45:52,775
Speaker 4: to call. Eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number

774
00:45:52,775 --> 00:45:56,295
Speaker 4: to call. A little bit more information. That's quite interesting.

775
00:45:56,335 --> 00:46:00,295
Speaker 4: This smart plastic smart is from Marpe, which is a

776
00:46:00,335 --> 00:46:06,735
Speaker 4: well known brand a cement based liquid membrane. So there's

777
00:46:07,055 --> 00:46:11,495
Speaker 4: obviously a binder can be used under tiles and for

778
00:46:11,575 --> 00:46:15,255
Speaker 4: swimming pool waterproofing, so it forms like a bladder a line.

779
00:46:15,295 --> 00:46:18,335
Speaker 4: So there is a process for corner bandages and mesh reinforcing.

780
00:46:21,735 --> 00:46:24,095
Speaker 4: And I love this the optimism of this text. The

781
00:46:24,135 --> 00:46:26,575
Speaker 4: only problem area could be the inlet in the outlet points.

782
00:46:27,055 --> 00:46:30,535
Speaker 4: But there's a solution for everything, well increasingly these days

783
00:46:30,615 --> 00:46:33,335
Speaker 4: there absolutely is. So if you'd like some help finding

784
00:46:33,375 --> 00:46:36,255
Speaker 4: the solution for you, Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty

785
00:46:36,375 --> 00:46:38,815
Speaker 4: is that number to call? It's eleven, just gone twelve

786
00:46:38,815 --> 00:46:42,055
Speaker 4: minutes after seven. Lines are open for your texts as well,

787
00:46:42,215 --> 00:46:46,535
Speaker 4: nine two nine two or ZBZB and if you would

788
00:46:46,575 --> 00:46:49,575
Speaker 4: like to seend me an email, it's Pete ATNEWSTALKZB dot

789
00:46:49,615 --> 00:46:51,975
Speaker 4: co dot nz. And in fact, just on the email

790
00:46:52,215 --> 00:46:58,215
Speaker 4: I've got this interesting one earlier this morning from Allen going, Hey, look,

791
00:46:58,215 --> 00:47:02,855
Speaker 4: we're considering getting this blowing wall insulation for our weatherboard home.

792
00:47:03,615 --> 00:47:06,255
Speaker 4: Do you have any advice on the project, on the process,

793
00:47:06,375 --> 00:47:09,695
Speaker 4: is it cost effective, long term effect on the weather

794
00:47:09,735 --> 00:47:12,855
Speaker 4: boards from the plugs, hoping the house will be warmer

795
00:47:12,895 --> 00:47:17,495
Speaker 4: and winter We do intend to do a repaint this year. Alan.

796
00:47:18,335 --> 00:47:20,215
Speaker 4: I think one of the things that's really important to

797
00:47:20,295 --> 00:47:25,695
Speaker 4: note is that if you do if you retrofit insulation

798
00:47:25,775 --> 00:47:29,815
Speaker 4: into an existing into an exterior wall, it triggers a

799
00:47:29,855 --> 00:47:34,855
Speaker 4: requirement for a building consent or an official note from

800
00:47:34,935 --> 00:47:39,415
Speaker 4: the council giving an exemption for a building consent. So

801
00:47:39,695 --> 00:47:42,655
Speaker 4: most of the companies that I'm aware of that are

802
00:47:42,695 --> 00:47:45,215
Speaker 4: sort of reputable doing this sort of blow and insulation

803
00:47:45,775 --> 00:47:48,255
Speaker 4: have a process where they can go to council and

804
00:47:48,295 --> 00:47:50,495
Speaker 4: go this is the system we use, this is how

805
00:47:50,575 --> 00:47:54,215
Speaker 4: we prove compliance. Therefore we're exempt from getting a building

806
00:47:54,215 --> 00:47:57,255
Speaker 4: consent because you already know that our systems are building

807
00:47:57,775 --> 00:48:01,815
Speaker 4: consent compliant in a sense. So make sure that whoever

808
00:48:01,855 --> 00:48:05,975
Speaker 4: you're dealing with allan gives you that information. The other

809
00:48:06,055 --> 00:48:08,575
Speaker 4: thing that has always been a concern is that when

810
00:48:08,615 --> 00:48:11,695
Speaker 4: you fill that space, that cavity, so all of those

811
00:48:11,735 --> 00:48:15,535
Speaker 4: spaces between the back of your plaster board lining between

812
00:48:15,575 --> 00:48:17,775
Speaker 4: the studs and knogs, and the back of the weather board,

813
00:48:18,095 --> 00:48:21,375
Speaker 4: particularly if the weather boards don't have a building wrap

814
00:48:21,455 --> 00:48:26,015
Speaker 4: or building paper on them, is there the potential for

815
00:48:26,095 --> 00:48:29,335
Speaker 4: moisture to be then drawn into the insulation material and

816
00:48:30,855 --> 00:48:34,215
Speaker 4: will you know, potentially you end up with a saturated

817
00:48:34,255 --> 00:48:36,415
Speaker 4: material which is just going to make things worse and

818
00:48:36,455 --> 00:48:41,295
Speaker 4: will cause mold, so hydrophobic products, those sorts of things

819
00:48:41,335 --> 00:48:44,215
Speaker 4: are really important. And then what system do they use

820
00:48:44,335 --> 00:48:48,455
Speaker 4: for plugging the holes as well? And you know what

821
00:48:48,575 --> 00:48:50,735
Speaker 4: you don't want, I guess is let's say in a

822
00:48:50,735 --> 00:48:53,935
Speaker 4: couple of years time that all of that shrinks and moves,

823
00:48:53,935 --> 00:48:55,895
Speaker 4: and then when you look at your painted surface on

824
00:48:55,935 --> 00:48:59,455
Speaker 4: the exterior weatherboards, you can see all of those penetrations

825
00:48:59,455 --> 00:49:01,695
Speaker 4: because you know it's still a twenty mil hole that

826
00:49:01,735 --> 00:49:04,095
Speaker 4: they're going to draw through the weatherboard. The other option

827
00:49:04,175 --> 00:49:06,655
Speaker 4: is they draw through the lining on the inside. Of course,

828
00:49:06,655 --> 00:49:08,695
Speaker 4: you've got to patch and repaint all of that, so

829
00:49:08,735 --> 00:49:11,655
Speaker 4: I think most people do end up opting to come

830
00:49:11,695 --> 00:49:14,735
Speaker 4: in from the outside. So look, it's worth considering. I've

831
00:49:14,735 --> 00:49:17,055
Speaker 4: spoken with people who have said I've had it done

832
00:49:17,975 --> 00:49:21,095
Speaker 4: and my house is warmer the next day, So you

833
00:49:21,135 --> 00:49:23,295
Speaker 4: can't argue with that. Oh wait, one hundred and eighty

834
00:49:23,335 --> 00:49:26,175
Speaker 4: ten eighty is number to call. Someone's just text through

835
00:49:26,175 --> 00:49:29,575
Speaker 4: as well. Paint stripper if it does get onto the

836
00:49:29,615 --> 00:49:32,615
Speaker 4: torch on it will damage us as it does contain

837
00:49:32,695 --> 00:49:35,815
Speaker 4: some aggressive solvents. So that's probably why I would be

838
00:49:35,975 --> 00:49:41,095
Speaker 4: reluctant to suggest using paint stripper on timber. Decking over

839
00:49:41,535 --> 00:49:45,375
Speaker 4: a torch on membrane or any membrane at all, so

840
00:49:45,695 --> 00:49:50,775
Speaker 4: I'd stay away from the strippers in that instance. Fifteen

841
00:49:50,815 --> 00:49:53,255
Speaker 4: minutes after seven, Carl, good morning.

842
00:49:55,655 --> 00:50:00,575
Speaker 9: Very well. I just had a question about I've got

843
00:50:00,615 --> 00:50:04,615
Speaker 9: a leaking shell. I was saying, a shower and the

844
00:50:04,695 --> 00:50:08,815
Speaker 9: tack was turned on and in the room next door

845
00:50:08,815 --> 00:50:13,775
Speaker 9: to it, the water started filling out and coming coming

846
00:50:13,775 --> 00:50:17,375
Speaker 9: out into the into the room next door. And there

847
00:50:17,415 --> 00:50:20,855
Speaker 9: was probably about six six months ago because I got

848
00:50:20,855 --> 00:50:24,255
Speaker 9: to pumb around and you said, you can probably have

849
00:50:24,335 --> 00:50:29,295
Speaker 9: to replace the whole wall and reline it. It all

850
00:50:29,335 --> 00:50:33,135
Speaker 9: conspective in green, and I was sort of thinking is

851
00:50:33,415 --> 00:50:36,335
Speaker 9: because you see, it only leaks when the when the

852
00:50:36,415 --> 00:50:39,735
Speaker 9: taps actually turned on. So I was thinking that, does

853
00:50:39,735 --> 00:50:44,895
Speaker 9: it indicate that it's coming from the pipe or does

854
00:50:44,935 --> 00:50:48,695
Speaker 9: it indicate as the showers just turned on when it's

855
00:50:48,775 --> 00:50:51,455
Speaker 9: leaking and it's not when it's it's it's not leaking

856
00:50:51,455 --> 00:50:55,015
Speaker 9: when it's turned off. Does it indicate that it's coming

857
00:50:55,015 --> 00:50:55,695
Speaker 9: from the shower.

858
00:50:57,415 --> 00:50:59,935
Speaker 4: Yeah, I see where you're coming from. And I'm plase

859
00:51:00,015 --> 00:51:03,775
Speaker 4: you've identified. So there's there's always the potential with a

860
00:51:03,855 --> 00:51:08,015
Speaker 4: leak like that that it's so when the mix when

861
00:51:08,055 --> 00:51:10,815
Speaker 4: the shower is turned off, when the mixer is closed,

862
00:51:10,935 --> 00:51:13,535
Speaker 4: you're not getting a leak, right, So it's not the

863
00:51:13,655 --> 00:51:17,015
Speaker 4: pipe coming into the mixer that's leaking, because that would

864
00:51:17,055 --> 00:51:21,575
Speaker 4: leak all the time. So then then two things can

865
00:51:21,615 --> 00:51:26,215
Speaker 4: potentially happen. When you turn the mixer on and have

866
00:51:26,295 --> 00:51:30,055
Speaker 4: a shower, that potentially that from the mixer to the

867
00:51:30,175 --> 00:51:32,975
Speaker 4: rose is where it's leaking in the wall and the

868
00:51:32,975 --> 00:51:35,295
Speaker 4: water is coming out of the pipe. But of course

869
00:51:36,055 --> 00:51:37,975
Speaker 4: that will happen. Then water will come out of the

870
00:51:38,055 --> 00:51:40,495
Speaker 4: rose land in the bottom of the shower tray, and

871
00:51:40,535 --> 00:51:43,255
Speaker 4: if the shower tray is leaking, you'll also have a leak.

872
00:51:43,695 --> 00:51:47,295
Speaker 4: But so what you don't know is, I suppose the

873
00:51:47,295 --> 00:51:49,375
Speaker 4: only way to test it would be if you've got

874
00:51:49,375 --> 00:51:52,095
Speaker 4: a really big bucket and you turn the shower on

875
00:51:52,255 --> 00:51:56,895
Speaker 4: but captured all of the water and it's still leaked,

876
00:51:56,975 --> 00:51:59,215
Speaker 4: then you know that the leak is coming from the

877
00:51:59,255 --> 00:52:02,015
Speaker 4: plumbing as opposed from the shower tray.

878
00:52:03,055 --> 00:52:05,015
Speaker 9: Sure, yeah, yeah.

879
00:52:06,455 --> 00:52:08,175
Speaker 4: Does that mean that every time you've had a shower

880
00:52:08,215 --> 00:52:10,815
Speaker 4: in the intervening months it's there's water on the floor

881
00:52:10,855 --> 00:52:11,335
Speaker 4: next door.

882
00:52:12,375 --> 00:52:20,535
Speaker 9: No, we've got two showers in the house, yeah.

883
00:52:21,015 --> 00:52:25,015
Speaker 4: I mean the other thing to do is to fill

884
00:52:25,055 --> 00:52:29,095
Speaker 4: the shower tray with water not from the shower and

885
00:52:29,215 --> 00:52:32,575
Speaker 4: see whether it leaks. Then, So and what type of

886
00:52:32,615 --> 00:52:35,175
Speaker 4: shower is it. Is it a like a PVC liner

887
00:52:35,295 --> 00:52:36,815
Speaker 4: or is it a fully tiled shower.

888
00:52:37,615 --> 00:52:40,055
Speaker 9: It's a fully child and it's like you just walk

889
00:52:40,095 --> 00:52:40,455
Speaker 9: into it.

890
00:52:40,575 --> 00:52:46,055
Speaker 4: So yeah, I'm with you. Yeah, right, you know, I

891
00:52:46,095 --> 00:52:50,215
Speaker 4: tell you what I would probably do is the waste, right,

892
00:52:50,295 --> 00:52:53,255
Speaker 4: if you can unscrew the little grill that sits over

893
00:52:53,335 --> 00:52:56,015
Speaker 4: the top of that, get yourself a balloon, put the

894
00:52:56,055 --> 00:52:59,735
Speaker 4: balloon in there, blow it up. That'll plug the waste,

895
00:52:59,815 --> 00:53:03,575
Speaker 4: and then put as much water into the shower tray

896
00:53:03,695 --> 00:53:07,615
Speaker 4: as you can before it is level entry where there's

897
00:53:07,735 --> 00:53:09,015
Speaker 4: no upstand at all.

898
00:53:11,095 --> 00:53:13,815
Speaker 9: There's probably about maybe two centimeters.

899
00:53:14,975 --> 00:53:17,735
Speaker 4: Fill it up to that threshold and wait and see

900
00:53:17,735 --> 00:53:20,295
Speaker 4: if it leaks. So if it does leak, then you

901
00:53:20,335 --> 00:53:23,375
Speaker 4: know that the problem's there. If it doesn't leak, then

902
00:53:23,495 --> 00:53:26,335
Speaker 4: you could go, Okay, well it might leak, but further

903
00:53:26,455 --> 00:53:29,175
Speaker 4: up and then the other option is to try and

904
00:53:29,215 --> 00:53:32,615
Speaker 4: capture that water and see whether the leak appears quite quickly.

905
00:53:33,175 --> 00:53:35,975
Speaker 4: If the water from the shower is not going to

906
00:53:36,095 --> 00:53:39,575
Speaker 4: the shower tray, then you know it's a plumbing issue.

907
00:53:39,695 --> 00:53:41,815
Speaker 4: And if it's a plumbing issue and you can get

908
00:53:41,855 --> 00:53:44,655
Speaker 4: to the wall behind it, you could just remove the

909
00:53:44,775 --> 00:53:47,135
Speaker 4: jib board from there, have a look at that, and

910
00:53:47,255 --> 00:53:50,135
Speaker 4: possibly do the repair without having to go through your

911
00:53:50,135 --> 00:53:51,655
Speaker 4: waterproofing and your tiles.

912
00:53:53,175 --> 00:53:55,215
Speaker 9: Right, yes, I go through from the other room.

913
00:53:55,455 --> 00:53:58,255
Speaker 4: You mean, yeah, absolutely, because in the end, pulling all

914
00:53:58,295 --> 00:54:01,335
Speaker 4: of the tiles off means that you know, you've ruined

915
00:54:01,375 --> 00:54:03,895
Speaker 4: the tiles, You've ruined the substraate, you've ruined the waterproofing.

916
00:54:04,135 --> 00:54:05,935
Speaker 4: Whereas if you cut a hole in the plaster board

917
00:54:05,935 --> 00:54:09,855
Speaker 4: behind it, if it's accessible, then repairing that's a lot

918
00:54:09,895 --> 00:54:11,455
Speaker 4: easier than repairing your tiles.

919
00:54:12,295 --> 00:54:16,055
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, it is accessible. Yeah, if you go through

920
00:54:16,095 --> 00:54:18,295
Speaker 9: the other room kind of, then just take the jib

921
00:54:18,335 --> 00:54:18,735
Speaker 9: board off.

922
00:54:18,815 --> 00:54:21,815
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, I mean doing a repair there is so

923
00:54:21,895 --> 00:54:22,495
Speaker 4: much easier.

924
00:54:23,415 --> 00:54:26,055
Speaker 9: Yeah, I see, I see exactly what you mean me. Yeah, yeah,

925
00:54:26,095 --> 00:54:28,615
Speaker 9: they might mean not Actually it might save teen green.

926
00:54:31,335 --> 00:54:36,775
Speaker 4: The invoices in the mail all the best for that.

927
00:54:37,055 --> 00:54:41,575
Speaker 4: You take care of this, Carl Oh eight hundred eighty

928
00:54:41,615 --> 00:54:43,615
Speaker 4: ten eighty. If you've got a question of building nature,

929
00:54:43,655 --> 00:54:44,935
Speaker 4: if I can save you a bit of money, I'm

930
00:54:44,935 --> 00:54:48,815
Speaker 4: happy to do that as well. I just I wonder

931
00:54:48,855 --> 00:54:53,535
Speaker 4: if I should tell that story. I had a moment yesterday.

932
00:54:54,055 --> 00:54:55,935
Speaker 4: I'm very proud of my Dutch heritage, and if you

933
00:54:55,975 --> 00:54:58,775
Speaker 4: know anything about Dutch people, if you can save a dollar,

934
00:54:58,855 --> 00:55:01,775
Speaker 4: you will. I'm not trying to be stereotypical or anything

935
00:55:01,815 --> 00:55:04,215
Speaker 4: like that. So as it happened yesterday, I was down

936
00:55:04,255 --> 00:55:08,295
Speaker 4: at my local resource recovery center and I on my

937
00:55:08,375 --> 00:55:10,335
Speaker 4: list of things to buy, had been to get a

938
00:55:10,375 --> 00:55:12,895
Speaker 4: new handcart because the last one I had it's of

939
00:55:12,895 --> 00:55:17,215
Speaker 4: packed a sad Anyway, there was one there looking slightly

940
00:55:17,575 --> 00:55:20,735
Speaker 4: disheveled and worn out, with a wobbly tire a wobbley

941
00:55:20,735 --> 00:55:23,055
Speaker 4: wheel on it. But it was eight bucks, and I'm like,

942
00:55:23,175 --> 00:55:26,375
Speaker 4: eight bucks, that's not bad. Anyway, paid the eight dollars,

943
00:55:26,415 --> 00:55:28,815
Speaker 4: and then as I was driving aw hours me Gee,

944
00:55:28,855 --> 00:55:31,095
Speaker 4: I went past a site the other day and there

945
00:55:31,175 --> 00:55:33,895
Speaker 4: was an old one had been discarded into a skip

946
00:55:34,855 --> 00:55:38,015
Speaker 4: and it had just one wheel on it. So I

947
00:55:38,055 --> 00:55:42,095
Speaker 4: went past there, talked to the person and said, can

948
00:55:42,135 --> 00:55:44,935
Speaker 4: I have the wheel please? Yes, took the wheel, put

949
00:55:44,975 --> 00:55:49,815
Speaker 4: that on the eight dollar handcart that i'd bought. Job done.

950
00:55:50,215 --> 00:55:51,175
Speaker 6: I stoked.

951
00:55:51,375 --> 00:55:54,215
Speaker 4: See that's where the old resource recovery centers are fantastic.

952
00:55:54,255 --> 00:55:56,415
Speaker 4: I wondered they're as popular as they are. I wait,

953
00:55:56,495 --> 00:55:58,535
Speaker 4: hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call. Twenty

954
00:55:58,575 --> 00:56:00,455
Speaker 4: one minutes after seven. Will take a break. We've got

955
00:56:00,455 --> 00:56:03,015
Speaker 4: some time for your calls right now. I eight hundred

956
00:56:03,135 --> 00:56:04,695
Speaker 4: eighty ten eighty give us a call.

957
00:56:05,255 --> 00:56:10,415
Speaker 1: Suns out Tools Out. Your summer DIY starts here the

958
00:56:10,455 --> 00:56:14,015
Speaker 1: resident builder with Peterwolfcare. Call eight hundred and eighty ten

959
00:56:14,015 --> 00:56:15,535
Speaker 1: eighty news Talk ZB.

960
00:56:15,975 --> 00:56:17,855
Speaker 4: Your news Talk ZB. The lines are open for you.

961
00:56:17,895 --> 00:56:21,135
Speaker 4: It is seven to twenty five oh, eight hundred eighty

962
00:56:21,175 --> 00:56:23,855
Speaker 4: ten eighties number to call. A couple of great texts

963
00:56:23,855 --> 00:56:27,055
Speaker 4: as well. Good morning. We're working on a nineteen sixty statehouse.

964
00:56:27,175 --> 00:56:31,055
Speaker 4: It has been completely gutted. The framing is ninety mili

965
00:56:31,215 --> 00:56:33,855
Speaker 4: rough sor so the effect of true depth is about

966
00:56:33,935 --> 00:56:37,415
Speaker 4: ninety five mil. It's good old fashioned four to two right.

967
00:56:38,415 --> 00:56:42,175
Speaker 4: We've been using pre hung doors with a ninety mil frame.

968
00:56:42,335 --> 00:56:46,855
Speaker 4: So when you install that and you've got designed for

969
00:56:46,895 --> 00:56:50,015
Speaker 4: a ninety mil frame, so typically they the jam will

970
00:56:50,015 --> 00:56:52,815
Speaker 4: be one hundred and ten hundred and twelve milimeters something

971
00:56:52,855 --> 00:56:55,295
Speaker 4: like that, but in this instance, by the time you

972
00:56:55,335 --> 00:56:59,535
Speaker 4: put plaster board on both sides, you're at about ninety

973
00:56:59,615 --> 00:57:04,535
Speaker 4: five hundred and twenty five mil. Any advice on fitting

974
00:57:04,575 --> 00:57:07,695
Speaker 4: the arch trace so that they are flush, fit the

975
00:57:07,735 --> 00:57:09,695
Speaker 4: door in the center so the jib sits proud on

976
00:57:09,735 --> 00:57:13,415
Speaker 4: both sides, or skim the jib behind thanks from Ben,

977
00:57:15,415 --> 00:57:19,855
Speaker 4: I guess this is where hindsight's always twenty twenty. Like

978
00:57:19,935 --> 00:57:24,095
Speaker 4: you could have ordered doors with a wider jam exactly

979
00:57:24,095 --> 00:57:28,655
Speaker 4: the right side, but that's okay. A couple of options.

980
00:57:28,695 --> 00:57:32,375
Speaker 4: One would be to do to choose which side it's

981
00:57:32,455 --> 00:57:35,775
Speaker 4: going to be most obvious from and hang the door

982
00:57:36,135 --> 00:57:39,175
Speaker 4: flush with that surface, or flush so that the jib,

983
00:57:39,375 --> 00:57:43,695
Speaker 4: the plaster board and the edge of your jam are flush,

984
00:57:43,815 --> 00:57:45,895
Speaker 4: and then you can just do an architrave. And on

985
00:57:45,935 --> 00:57:48,855
Speaker 4: the other side, where maybe it's less obvious, you actually

986
00:57:49,055 --> 00:57:51,095
Speaker 4: rip some beads, add a bead to it, and then

987
00:57:51,135 --> 00:57:54,815
Speaker 4: an architrave. Not a great solution, but it is one solution.

988
00:57:55,295 --> 00:57:57,975
Speaker 4: The other option is to do what you're thinking about doing.

989
00:57:58,295 --> 00:58:02,455
Speaker 4: Hang the door so that the jam is equidistant from

990
00:58:02,455 --> 00:58:06,055
Speaker 4: both sides of the plasterboard. But then I would use

991
00:58:06,135 --> 00:58:12,135
Speaker 4: a I'd use a slightly thicker architrave and rebate out

992
00:58:12,175 --> 00:58:15,575
Speaker 4: the back of the architrave so that it's flush. The

993
00:58:15,615 --> 00:58:17,255
Speaker 4: only problem with that is when you get to the

994
00:58:17,335 --> 00:58:20,575
Speaker 4: junction between the skirting and your architrave. Let's say your

995
00:58:20,615 --> 00:58:23,255
Speaker 4: architrave was a bit of nineteen mel and you've taken

996
00:58:23,335 --> 00:58:25,935
Speaker 4: two to three mil out of it, Then when it

997
00:58:26,015 --> 00:58:28,935
Speaker 4: comes and butts into your skirting, you're going to see

998
00:58:28,935 --> 00:58:34,535
Speaker 4: the join there. So cutting back the plasterboards not a

999
00:58:34,535 --> 00:58:41,815
Speaker 4: great option. I wonder whether and the jams will be

1000
00:58:42,735 --> 00:58:45,615
Speaker 4: rounded off slightly, so if you add a bead to them,

1001
00:58:45,895 --> 00:58:48,655
Speaker 4: you'll either have a little groove or you'll have to

1002
00:58:48,695 --> 00:58:51,495
Speaker 4: add the bead with a quirk and then another quirk

1003
00:58:51,615 --> 00:58:54,695
Speaker 4: onto your architraves, which might not look that great either.

1004
00:58:55,575 --> 00:58:57,855
Speaker 4: If you've got the time and the energy, I would

1005
00:58:57,935 --> 00:59:03,015
Speaker 4: probably be inclined to plane down one side of the

1006
00:59:03,135 --> 00:59:08,015
Speaker 4: jam so that it's square and straight, and glue a

1007
00:59:08,055 --> 00:59:11,655
Speaker 4: bead to that side so that you're at the right depth,

1008
00:59:11,895 --> 00:59:14,015
Speaker 4: and then do your architraves. And if you do a

1009
00:59:14,055 --> 00:59:20,415
Speaker 4: neat job with that, chances are known I'd ever see it. Yikes,

1010
00:59:22,655 --> 00:59:27,215
Speaker 4: or take all the doors apart, make jams that are

1011
00:59:27,255 --> 00:59:30,375
Speaker 4: the right size or criiky, what a big job. Anyway,

1012
00:59:30,455 --> 00:59:33,175
Speaker 4: there are solutions, but there's a little bit of work

1013
00:59:33,175 --> 00:59:36,295
Speaker 4: involved in all of that. Other quick text that comes

1014
00:59:36,335 --> 00:59:38,015
Speaker 4: through as well. We've got a seven year old house.

1015
00:59:38,055 --> 00:59:41,975
Speaker 4: The concrete driveway has been crumbling around the concrete cuts

1016
00:59:42,015 --> 00:59:44,215
Speaker 4: in the edges. There's also a patch in the middle

1017
00:59:44,495 --> 00:59:47,535
Speaker 4: that is crumbling and exposing a lot of stones. What's

1018
00:59:47,575 --> 00:59:50,775
Speaker 4: the issue here? Is there affects or is there a claim?

1019
00:59:51,415 --> 00:59:55,215
Speaker 4: I think that if it's obviously a failure of either

1020
00:59:55,735 --> 00:59:59,055
Speaker 4: the batching at the time, so it's been poorly batched

1021
00:59:59,215 --> 01:00:04,535
Speaker 4: and it's weaker, or there's been a problem with the

1022
01:00:04,655 --> 01:00:06,855
Speaker 4: laying where maybe there was too much water in the

1023
01:00:06,895 --> 01:00:12,135
Speaker 4: mix and so it hasn't It would have cured, but

1024
01:00:12,455 --> 01:00:15,015
Speaker 4: it hasn't got the strength and that's why it's starting

1025
01:00:15,015 --> 01:00:17,855
Speaker 4: to crumble. And if it's seven years old and crumbling

1026
01:00:19,775 --> 01:00:22,815
Speaker 4: there in many ways, there's actually no other fix than

1027
01:00:22,855 --> 01:00:26,255
Speaker 4: just replacing it. But crikey, what a big job that is.

1028
01:00:26,495 --> 01:00:30,495
Speaker 4: So I at seven years old, I would probably be

1029
01:00:30,575 --> 01:00:34,255
Speaker 4: going back to the contractor who supervised the job, maybe

1030
01:00:34,295 --> 01:00:37,695
Speaker 4: the contractor that did the placement, if they supplied the concrete,

1031
01:00:38,335 --> 01:00:40,575
Speaker 4: and if at all possible, you'd go back to the

1032
01:00:40,615 --> 01:00:43,255
Speaker 4: supplier of the concrete and ask one of their reps

1033
01:00:43,295 --> 01:00:46,855
Speaker 4: to come out and inspect it and figure out what's

1034
01:00:46,895 --> 01:00:50,735
Speaker 4: going on. But it shouldn't be happenings. I suspect it

1035
01:00:50,855 --> 01:00:54,535
Speaker 4: is actually a fault with the actual concrete mix. And

1036
01:00:54,615 --> 01:00:56,935
Speaker 4: like I say, that's not an easy repair. Oh wait,

1037
01:00:56,975 --> 01:00:59,975
Speaker 4: one hundred and eighty ten eighty. If you've got questions,

1038
01:01:00,055 --> 01:01:04,695
Speaker 4: dilemmas or products that you're wondering about in terms of

1039
01:01:04,775 --> 01:01:11,855
Speaker 4: you know, can I use this to solve that particular job? Yeah?

1040
01:01:11,975 --> 01:01:15,815
Speaker 4: How do you solve these issues? And look, I think

1041
01:01:15,855 --> 01:01:20,015
Speaker 4: a large part of building and doing maintenance repairs to

1042
01:01:20,095 --> 01:01:23,975
Speaker 4: some degree, even new builds, is always just about problem solving. Hence,

1043
01:01:24,095 --> 01:01:26,895
Speaker 4: like this one where timber jams that are good old

1044
01:01:26,935 --> 01:01:29,695
Speaker 4: fashioned four to two so it's about ninety five mil,

1045
01:01:29,815 --> 01:01:32,255
Speaker 4: might even be one hundred mil. Add some plasterbot on

1046
01:01:32,295 --> 01:01:34,375
Speaker 4: there you end up with a jam. Actually someone has

1047
01:01:34,415 --> 01:01:36,575
Speaker 4: just text through and gone. You could do it the

1048
01:01:36,615 --> 01:01:40,775
Speaker 4: old fashioned way, where walls were often of varying thickness.

1049
01:01:40,815 --> 01:01:44,055
Speaker 4: So if you look at older villas, particularly a lot

1050
01:01:44,095 --> 01:01:46,575
Speaker 4: of bungalows, they did this where they hung the door

1051
01:01:46,615 --> 01:01:49,055
Speaker 4: with a door jam flushed to one side. Typically the

1052
01:01:49,135 --> 01:01:52,135
Speaker 4: hinge side and then the door stop on the other

1053
01:01:52,255 --> 01:01:55,095
Speaker 4: side extends all the way through, so instead of a

1054
01:01:55,135 --> 01:01:57,855
Speaker 4: planted door stop that sits on a jam like a

1055
01:01:57,855 --> 01:02:00,255
Speaker 4: little bit of thirty x ten like you might use today,

1056
01:02:00,455 --> 01:02:04,055
Speaker 4: or older doors might have been a bit of tuber

1057
01:02:04,095 --> 01:02:07,055
Speaker 4: one something like that, or one by half two or

1058
01:02:07,055 --> 01:02:13,855
Speaker 4: one something like that. Then your door jam is scribed

1059
01:02:14,095 --> 01:02:19,895
Speaker 4: to the to be flush with the plasterboard on the

1060
01:02:19,935 --> 01:02:23,935
Speaker 4: other side. That's quite a nice simple solution too. And

1061
01:02:23,935 --> 01:02:28,695
Speaker 4: then you don't see any variation in the thickness of

1062
01:02:28,695 --> 01:02:31,735
Speaker 4: the frame or you don't see any packing little filets

1063
01:02:31,735 --> 01:02:34,335
Speaker 4: in that that are being glued on, and you don't

1064
01:02:34,375 --> 01:02:36,655
Speaker 4: have to muck around with trying to rebate out the

1065
01:02:36,695 --> 01:02:40,255
Speaker 4: back of the architrave as well, So thank you for that.

1066
01:02:40,255 --> 01:02:42,215
Speaker 4: That's a good idea. So do a door stop all

1067
01:02:42,255 --> 01:02:43,935
Speaker 4: the way around the side of the door that you

1068
01:02:44,495 --> 01:02:46,695
Speaker 4: extend the jam so you can't see the joint, So

1069
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Speaker 4: flush on one side which is where the hinges are,

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Speaker 4: and then put the sort of scribed door jam on

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Speaker 4: the other side. Job done, awesome idea, Thank you very much, Paul,

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Speaker 4: much appreciated. Eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number

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Speaker 4: to call seven thirty one. We've got time for your

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01:03:02,695 --> 01:03:06,375
Speaker 4: calls right now. Lines are open eight hundred eighty ten eighty.

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01:03:06,975 --> 01:03:10,215
Speaker 1: From summer backyard jobs to Big Rennolds. Let's talk it

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01:03:10,295 --> 01:03:12,855
Speaker 1: through call Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty the

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Speaker 1: resident builder with peterwilcab News talksbi.

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Speaker 4: Your news talks'b seven thirty five and lines are open

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01:03:20,975 --> 01:03:23,655
Speaker 4: for your calls. So mu's just texture as well. Hey,

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Speaker 4: I've got a tiled area that's been painted. What's best

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01:03:27,335 --> 01:03:29,415
Speaker 4: way to get the paint off? It's chipping off now

1082
01:03:29,495 --> 01:03:34,695
Speaker 4: in areas? Should I use paint stripper? To be fair,

1083
01:03:34,735 --> 01:03:35,895
Speaker 4: I don't know that I've got a lot of good

1084
01:03:35,935 --> 01:03:38,495
Speaker 4: news for you in the sense that if someone's chosen

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01:03:38,575 --> 01:03:41,495
Speaker 4: to paint the tiles, it's probably because the tiles are

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Speaker 4: in poor condition, or there are particularly spectacularly ugly color,

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Speaker 4: or something like that, in which case, if you strip

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01:03:50,215 --> 01:03:53,455
Speaker 4: the paint off, you're just going to end up with

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01:03:53,495 --> 01:03:56,455
Speaker 4: the original problem that someone tried to solve by putting

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Speaker 4: the paint over the top of it. So a word

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Speaker 4: of caution there, But yeah, if you were going to

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Speaker 4: do it, I don't think you've got any options other

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01:04:04,615 --> 01:04:07,495
Speaker 4: than paint stripper, but he will always be a bit

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01:04:07,495 --> 01:04:11,775
Speaker 4: of residue. So you know, what do you deal with?

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01:04:11,895 --> 01:04:14,255
Speaker 4: You know, if you've got paint that's seeped into that

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01:04:14,695 --> 01:04:18,375
Speaker 4: tiny little microscopic joins between the tile and the grout,

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01:04:18,695 --> 01:04:21,335
Speaker 4: you know you're really never going to get that off.

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Speaker 4: So you could have a go with tiles stripping, but

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Speaker 4: I don't know that you're ever going to be super

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Speaker 4: happy with the results unfortunately.

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Speaker 5: Right Yo.

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Speaker 4: Seven thirty six Michael, good morning to you.

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Speaker 6: Morning Peter.

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01:04:36,255 --> 01:04:37,375
Speaker 4: How he is very well?

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01:04:37,495 --> 01:04:39,895
Speaker 6: I don't, I don't. I don't think it's a Dutch thing.

1106
01:04:39,935 --> 01:04:42,815
Speaker 6: I think the skip diving is a de import thing.

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01:04:42,855 --> 01:04:45,415
Speaker 4: To be honest with you, it may well be.

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01:04:45,855 --> 01:04:47,215
Speaker 6: I've been doing it for years mate.

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01:04:47,495 --> 01:04:50,815
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, look I figure that it's it's all part

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01:04:50,855 --> 01:04:52,735
Speaker 4: of recycling. Yeah, I know.

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Speaker 6: I've got a yard full of it. Yeah, I got

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01:04:55,335 --> 01:04:59,295
Speaker 6: a question for you, suppose this early. I've got I

1113
01:04:59,375 --> 01:05:03,255
Speaker 6: live in the Shinasol bungalow. You probably know this and Perimrimo,

1114
01:05:03,375 --> 01:05:06,095
Speaker 6: which is going to get demolished eventually eventually when it

1115
01:05:06,095 --> 01:05:08,815
Speaker 6: get onto it. I've got a room which has got

1116
01:05:08,895 --> 01:05:10,975
Speaker 6: quite a bit of black mold in the ceiling.

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Speaker 9: And that's my.

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01:05:11,735 --> 01:05:15,335
Speaker 6: Question for you. I've got someone staying in from Brazil

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01:05:15,375 --> 01:05:18,375
Speaker 6: fully soon and they'll be going into that room. Can

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01:05:18,415 --> 01:05:21,815
Speaker 6: I just directly paint over that and would the paint

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01:05:22,015 --> 01:05:24,495
Speaker 6: adhere or do I have to use a mold solution

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01:05:24,695 --> 01:05:27,575
Speaker 6: prior to painting, bearing in mind the house is being demolished.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, sure, So you're not looking for a long term solution.

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01:05:30,855 --> 01:05:33,335
Speaker 4: No painting over the mold will just mean that the

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01:05:33,375 --> 01:05:35,615
Speaker 4: mold will come back and it will stop the painted

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01:05:35,655 --> 01:05:40,495
Speaker 4: hearing properly. So I would be looking at you like

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01:05:40,535 --> 01:05:43,495
Speaker 4: a basic mold treatment, proprietary one you get them in

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Speaker 4: all the hardware stores, get some from Razine color shop,

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Speaker 4: treat it, try and remove as much of that as possible.

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01:05:50,535 --> 01:05:55,855
Speaker 4: Use ideally like a stained blocking seala, so pigmented seala

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01:05:55,895 --> 01:05:58,895
Speaker 4: in some case, just to encapsulate it and then carry on.

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01:05:58,935 --> 01:06:01,495
Speaker 4: Do you painting there? And I mean we could go

1133
01:06:01,575 --> 01:06:03,615
Speaker 4: into you know why you've got the mold and should

1134
01:06:03,655 --> 01:06:05,575
Speaker 4: you put insulation and do you have leaks and all

1135
01:06:05,575 --> 01:06:06,855
Speaker 4: the rest of it. But if the house is going

1136
01:06:06,935 --> 01:06:09,575
Speaker 4: to get bold, I guess you're just looking for a

1137
01:06:09,615 --> 01:06:13,215
Speaker 4: cosmetic facts, but no painting straight over it not a

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01:06:13,215 --> 01:06:13,735
Speaker 4: great option.

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01:06:14,495 --> 01:06:17,015
Speaker 6: Yeah, be coming through the roof and every second year

1140
01:06:17,055 --> 01:06:18,375
Speaker 6: ago and paint the lead head zoner.

1141
01:06:21,055 --> 01:06:24,815
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, fair enough too, fair enough too, all right,

1142
01:06:24,855 --> 01:06:28,215
Speaker 4: good luck with that. You take care of eight hundred

1143
01:06:28,215 --> 01:06:31,695
Speaker 4: and eighty ten eighty the number to call, Bob, greetings to.

1144
01:06:31,655 --> 01:06:35,215
Speaker 14: You, Hello peete, how are you this morning?

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01:06:35,415 --> 01:06:36,095
Speaker 4: Very well, Bob?

1146
01:06:37,415 --> 01:06:38,015
Speaker 5: Thank you?

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01:06:38,055 --> 01:06:42,255
Speaker 14: Good that good year. Look looking at the pointil purchase

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01:06:42,335 --> 01:06:46,055
Speaker 14: of a home built in the early nineteen nineties, Yes,

1149
01:06:46,295 --> 01:06:50,255
Speaker 14: using the exterior playing is a solid plast over triple

1150
01:06:50,455 --> 01:06:55,455
Speaker 14: S type substruction, Just wondering what the risk of asbestos

1151
01:06:55,695 --> 01:06:58,415
Speaker 14: might be in that clearing.

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01:06:59,775 --> 01:07:04,695
Speaker 4: Um I would say, well, I tell you what where

1153
01:07:04,695 --> 01:07:07,895
Speaker 4: I'm coming from is back in the day. I can

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01:07:07,895 --> 01:07:11,575
Speaker 4: remember doing a job where we use that triple S

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01:07:12,015 --> 01:07:18,815
Speaker 4: as a substrate for solid plaster, and so, out of

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01:07:19,175 --> 01:07:22,975
Speaker 4: enlightened self interest, I'm hoping there's no issues with asbestos

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01:07:23,015 --> 01:07:25,175
Speaker 4: in that because it was my job to cut all

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01:07:25,175 --> 01:07:29,895
Speaker 4: the sheets, right, So I'm going to say that I

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01:07:29,935 --> 01:07:32,375
Speaker 4: don't think there's a great risk of it's it's not

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01:07:32,455 --> 01:07:38,695
Speaker 4: a semititious type material. It is still quite surprising how

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01:07:38,775 --> 01:07:41,615
Speaker 4: much asbestos came into the like I had always had

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01:07:41,655 --> 01:07:43,935
Speaker 4: this sort of impression that you know, when we're talking

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Speaker 4: on site and that sort of thing, that asbestos was

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01:07:46,215 --> 01:07:51,215
Speaker 4: a nineteen fifties, nineteen sixties, nineteen seventies issue, But when

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01:07:51,255 --> 01:07:56,015
Speaker 4: you start reading through the literature, asbestos containing materials was

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01:07:56,055 --> 01:08:00,215
Speaker 4: still coming into the country right up to around two thousand,

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01:08:00,335 --> 01:08:02,855
Speaker 4: possibly even a little bit later, in different types of

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01:08:02,855 --> 01:08:08,695
Speaker 4: building materials. But if you have a genuine concern about it,

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01:08:08,695 --> 01:08:10,455
Speaker 4: it's a little bit difficult because you don't own the

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01:08:10,455 --> 01:08:15,815
Speaker 4: house yet. You could have it tested. But like I'm

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01:08:15,895 --> 01:08:18,855
Speaker 4: speaking as someone who used to install that particular product

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01:08:19,135 --> 01:08:21,655
Speaker 4: a head of solid plastering, and I'm sort of going, gee,

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Speaker 4: I really hope that it didn't. Hope it's not the

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Speaker 4: best way, But yeah, I think it's it's unlikely.

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Speaker 14: Okay, In hypothetically the same five years time, we wanted

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Speaker 14: to demolish this property and rebuild on the section. There

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Speaker 14: could be some considerable cost involved if there was, if

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Speaker 14: it was proven to be there was asbestos in that

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Speaker 14: exterior clearing, the process would be quite expensive to demolish

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Speaker 14: and remove the total building.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And like I say, I think it's unlikely. I

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01:09:03,375 --> 01:09:05,375
Speaker 4: can't sort of hat on heart say there isn't but

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01:09:05,455 --> 01:09:08,655
Speaker 4: I think it's it is unlikely, But yes, you're right,

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01:09:09,055 --> 01:09:13,815
Speaker 4: and I'm basing that in part on a project that

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01:09:13,855 --> 01:09:16,815
Speaker 4: I was aware of, where, let's say, a roof that

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01:09:16,935 --> 01:09:19,975
Speaker 4: had the you know, it's the metal tiles with the

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01:09:20,015 --> 01:09:23,415
Speaker 4: imprinted pebble on it. Now, there was a note from

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01:09:23,415 --> 01:09:25,895
Speaker 4: work Safe a couple of years ago that hey, some

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01:09:26,055 --> 01:09:30,255
Speaker 4: of that type of material may contain asbestos that was

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01:09:30,295 --> 01:09:33,095
Speaker 4: tested found to be in the roofing. So instead of

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01:09:33,175 --> 01:09:35,335
Speaker 4: you know, spending a thousand bucks stripping the roof, it

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01:09:35,415 --> 01:09:40,615
Speaker 4: was a sixteen thousand dollar project. Right, So yes, potential,

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01:09:40,775 --> 01:09:44,295
Speaker 4: But again I think that it's unlikely, but I can't

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01:09:44,295 --> 01:09:46,575
Speaker 4: tell you without having it tested obviously.

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01:09:47,775 --> 01:09:50,495
Speaker 14: Yeah, now that's fine, that's reassuring. And it's just a

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01:09:50,575 --> 01:09:56,015
Speaker 14: quick question about moisture levels. Stay tested with using a

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01:09:56,095 --> 01:10:00,215
Speaker 14: reach Master pro tested all the buildings for moisture. The

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Speaker 14: highest reading was one twenty four. Does that mean what

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Speaker 14: I'm unfamiliar with done well those meters or anything in

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01:10:09,815 --> 01:10:11,655
Speaker 14: relation to the moisture levels?

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Speaker 5: Does that?

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01:10:12,135 --> 01:10:14,415
Speaker 14: Would that be acceptable?

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01:10:14,815 --> 01:10:17,455
Speaker 4: The hard thing is you don't know what the Yeah,

1204
01:10:17,455 --> 01:10:19,175
Speaker 4: but you don't know what the baseline is. And I

1205
01:10:19,215 --> 01:10:22,015
Speaker 4: don't know what the baseline is, so you know, is

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01:10:23,255 --> 01:10:28,295
Speaker 4: bone dry one or is bone dry sixty, in which case,

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01:10:28,295 --> 01:10:30,215
Speaker 4: if it's one and you're reading one hundred and twenty,

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01:10:30,215 --> 01:10:33,415
Speaker 4: that doesn't sound good. If the baseline is sixty or

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01:10:33,455 --> 01:10:36,895
Speaker 4: eighty or one hundred, then one twenty is okay, So

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01:10:38,615 --> 01:10:42,575
Speaker 4: I'd go back to whoever undertook the testing. I think

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01:10:42,575 --> 01:10:44,695
Speaker 4: one of the really good questions to ask people who

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01:10:44,695 --> 01:10:48,215
Speaker 4: are actually doing moisture testing is what's your training?

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Speaker 2: Okay?

1214
01:10:50,015 --> 01:10:55,335
Speaker 4: Yeah, sure, sure, because I think unfortunately there have been

1215
01:10:55,375 --> 01:10:58,015
Speaker 4: instances where people have got the gear but they don't

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01:10:58,015 --> 01:11:00,615
Speaker 4: actually know how to use it properly or how to

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01:11:00,655 --> 01:11:03,695
Speaker 4: interpret the results, and you might get either a false

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01:11:04,015 --> 01:11:08,775
Speaker 4: positive or a false negative, and either way it doesn't

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01:11:08,815 --> 01:11:10,615
Speaker 4: give you the insight that you really want.

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01:11:12,175 --> 01:11:15,815
Speaker 14: Yeah, these readings could be pretty, pretty, meaningless pretty, and

1221
01:11:16,055 --> 01:11:17,935
Speaker 14: at least we establish your baseline.

1222
01:11:18,015 --> 01:11:20,855
Speaker 4: They're meaningful when you understand what the baseline is, So

1223
01:11:21,135 --> 01:11:23,855
Speaker 4: you know what is what's what number gives you a

1224
01:11:23,975 --> 01:11:27,055
Speaker 4: dry house or with an acceptable limits, and then what

1225
01:11:27,175 --> 01:11:29,895
Speaker 4: number gives you something that indicates that these moisture and

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01:11:29,975 --> 01:11:32,375
Speaker 4: gress and without knowing what the baseline is, you just

1227
01:11:32,375 --> 01:11:36,455
Speaker 4: don't know. Yeah, good luck with that, right, But a

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01:11:36,575 --> 01:11:38,855
Speaker 4: due diligence to do all the very best you Bob,

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01:11:38,935 --> 01:11:41,495
Speaker 4: much appreciated. Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty. We're going

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01:11:41,495 --> 01:11:44,255
Speaker 4: to catch up with Mike Colds from Razine Construction in

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01:11:44,495 --> 01:11:45,095
Speaker 4: just a moment.

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Speaker 1: Saw does Sunshine and Solid Advice, the resident builder with

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01:11:50,855 --> 01:11:54,335
Speaker 1: Peterwolfcare Call eight hundred eighty eight News Talks.

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01:11:54,575 --> 01:11:55,215
Speaker 11: Be well.

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01:11:55,215 --> 01:11:58,575
Speaker 4: The timing couldn't be better, especially that little intro going

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01:11:58,615 --> 01:12:02,815
Speaker 4: Solid Advice. Let's talk a little bit about plastering. Mike

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01:12:02,855 --> 01:12:07,095
Speaker 4: Holds from Razine Construction. Very good morning, and just quickly, Mike,

1238
01:12:07,655 --> 01:12:10,735
Speaker 4: thanks very much for your text so you can help

1239
01:12:10,815 --> 01:12:14,495
Speaker 4: us with this whole triple is thing because it was

1240
01:12:14,575 --> 01:12:17,775
Speaker 4: used as a substrate for renders for many many years.

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01:12:19,215 --> 01:12:23,335
Speaker 4: Your your thoughts on the tripolis, Yes.

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01:12:23,295 --> 01:12:26,655
Speaker 7: It was, it was. It was generally a like I say,

1243
01:12:26,695 --> 01:12:29,295
Speaker 7: it was a rigid sheathing for for solid plaster. Yeah,

1244
01:12:29,895 --> 01:12:31,495
Speaker 7: and back in the day, so it was probably from

1245
01:12:31,615 --> 01:12:36,295
Speaker 7: sort of the early eighties through to sort of mid nineties.

1246
01:12:36,295 --> 01:12:39,135
Speaker 7: It was traditionally used for the solid plaster. Was a

1247
01:12:39,175 --> 01:12:41,655
Speaker 7: back back in pride and metric and were and whatnot

1248
01:12:41,655 --> 01:12:43,215
Speaker 7: on and it was a it was a it was

1249
01:12:43,215 --> 01:12:44,775
Speaker 7: a fine it was a wood. It was a compressed

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01:12:44,775 --> 01:12:48,335
Speaker 7: wood fiber, and to the best of my knowledge, there

1251
01:12:48,335 --> 01:12:51,975
Speaker 7: was never any best dosing corporated. And the color of

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01:12:52,055 --> 01:12:53,895
Speaker 7: it when it was it was it was like a

1253
01:12:53,895 --> 01:12:56,655
Speaker 7: wood fiber, so it was a brownie sort of tan color.

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01:12:56,975 --> 01:12:59,295
Speaker 7: But then it had it was actually coated with a

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01:12:59,655 --> 01:13:01,375
Speaker 7: I'm not quite sure what the coating was on it,

1256
01:13:01,375 --> 01:13:04,375
Speaker 7: but it was pitruminous or it was an oil based,

1257
01:13:04,855 --> 01:13:06,775
Speaker 7: but it had some waterproofing to what they call a

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01:13:06,815 --> 01:13:13,055
Speaker 7: water precator. So it was more known as as an

1259
01:13:13,055 --> 01:13:16,575
Speaker 7: external sponge than anything else, particularly if anything got through

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01:13:17,055 --> 01:13:19,935
Speaker 7: in terms of any movement or cracking in the actual plaster,

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01:13:20,535 --> 01:13:22,215
Speaker 7: and then it used to swell. That was pretty one

1262
01:13:22,255 --> 01:13:25,175
Speaker 7: of its problem biggest issues was that it swelled if

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01:13:25,175 --> 01:13:27,615
Speaker 7: it did get in contact with moisture, particularly around ground

1264
01:13:27,655 --> 01:13:30,335
Speaker 7: levels and bottom plate lines. And of course when it

1265
01:13:30,375 --> 01:13:32,215
Speaker 7: swelled to put pressure on the plaster work and then

1266
01:13:32,255 --> 01:13:35,815
Speaker 7: it get ultimately cracking and deterioration or whatever was supporting

1267
01:13:35,855 --> 01:13:36,215
Speaker 7: the plaster.

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01:13:36,615 --> 01:13:40,015
Speaker 4: So I mean, look, we can actually talk about that

1269
01:13:41,255 --> 01:13:43,215
Speaker 4: in an interesting way in the sense that you know

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01:13:43,295 --> 01:13:46,295
Speaker 4: what we did, and I can remember installing it. I

1271
01:13:46,335 --> 01:13:49,135
Speaker 4: was working for another carpenter back then. I was a

1272
01:13:49,175 --> 01:13:52,055
Speaker 4: young fella. You know, we did a big garage lined

1273
01:13:52,095 --> 01:13:55,095
Speaker 4: at all with the triple s ready for solid plaster,

1274
01:13:55,215 --> 01:13:57,575
Speaker 4: which we did ourselves as well. And that was back

1275
01:13:57,615 --> 01:14:00,095
Speaker 4: when you basically used a bottle cap and a galve

1276
01:14:00,175 --> 01:14:04,015
Speaker 4: clout and some chicken mesh and stretched that out and

1277
01:14:04,015 --> 01:14:06,375
Speaker 4: then you did your scratch coats and so on. But

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01:14:06,895 --> 01:14:10,055
Speaker 4: it also that sort of snapshot of the industry at

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01:14:10,055 --> 01:14:12,775
Speaker 4: that time also indicates just how far we've come in

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Speaker 4: terms of cavities and cavity closes and making sure that

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Speaker 4: substrates are impervious to all of these sorts of things,

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01:14:20,895 --> 01:14:24,455
Speaker 4: how far we've come, and flashing details around windows and

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01:14:24,535 --> 01:14:27,255
Speaker 4: complex junctions and all the rest of it, none of

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Speaker 4: which we were going to talk about today. But because

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Speaker 4: your experience is as vast as it is, you're the

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01:14:32,255 --> 01:14:34,295
Speaker 4: perfect person to chat. So I don't think Bob's got

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01:14:34,335 --> 01:14:37,695
Speaker 4: too many questions or concerns around the asbestos. But there

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01:14:37,695 --> 01:14:40,415
Speaker 4: it might be other issues around the clouding, so let's

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Speaker 4: put that aside, and.

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Speaker 7: I think, yeah, so just I mean just thinking about

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01:14:44,215 --> 01:14:46,735
Speaker 7: in terms of how far we've come there never look

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01:14:46,775 --> 01:14:50,695
Speaker 7: at with that particular type of system and the builders

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01:14:50,735 --> 01:14:55,495
Speaker 7: engagement with the external clodding. Back in the day, I mean, yeah,

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Speaker 7: you used to put on a substrate for whereas today

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01:14:59,855 --> 01:15:04,695
Speaker 7: the plaster is the substrate and stare then most situations

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01:15:04,815 --> 01:15:07,935
Speaker 7: and that could be installing tegra lightweight concrete, it's going

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01:15:07,975 --> 01:15:12,215
Speaker 7: to be installing an insulation board. The contractors also do

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01:15:12,375 --> 01:15:15,495
Speaker 7: all the flashing work, like you said, the cavity closures,

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01:15:15,535 --> 01:15:19,015
Speaker 7: the finishing beads, the corners, and then they do then

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01:15:19,055 --> 01:15:22,175
Speaker 7: they start all the plastering. So it's it's a one

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01:15:22,215 --> 01:15:27,575
Speaker 7: responsibility trade and that's and that's really important, so particularly

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Speaker 7: around openings and windows and doors. The contract we have

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01:15:30,815 --> 01:15:34,455
Speaker 7: complete flashing suitees these days that are supplied and installed

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Speaker 7: by the contractors. So if there ever is an issue

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01:15:37,615 --> 01:15:41,175
Speaker 7: into the future, A, we know what's been done in

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01:15:41,255 --> 01:15:45,055
Speaker 7: terms of a specification, and B you've got one point

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01:15:45,095 --> 01:15:47,455
Speaker 7: of contact in terms of supply of materials and system

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01:15:47,495 --> 01:15:52,615
Speaker 7: specifications such ourselves and the contractors installed it. So and

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01:15:52,615 --> 01:15:55,615
Speaker 7: they're all LBP now so they so it's it's very

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01:15:55,695 --> 01:15:59,775
Speaker 7: much a one stop solution, you know. And as much

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01:15:59,815 --> 01:16:03,655
Speaker 7: as things have changed, that's definitely for the better of

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01:16:03,695 --> 01:16:05,655
Speaker 7: the industry and for the end of it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, and I guess, especially in terms of razine

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01:16:11,215 --> 01:16:12,215
Speaker 4: construction rock coat.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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01:16:12,735 --> 01:16:16,455
Speaker 4: I remember last year someone rang me and said, hey,

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01:16:16,535 --> 01:16:18,935
Speaker 4: look on looking at a property and it turned out

1318
01:16:18,935 --> 01:16:21,095
Speaker 4: to be in christ Church. It's such and such an address.

1319
01:16:21,495 --> 01:16:23,935
Speaker 4: I think it's got the razine construction plaster on it.

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01:16:24,215 --> 01:16:26,935
Speaker 4: I could ring you you had all the details, including

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01:16:26,975 --> 01:16:30,095
Speaker 4: photographs of how the flashings were installed. That's all part

1322
01:16:30,135 --> 01:16:31,975
Speaker 4: of the system too with razine construction.

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01:16:32,815 --> 01:16:36,055
Speaker 7: Yeah, absolutely so. I mean we even as a supplier

1324
01:16:36,055 --> 01:16:38,015
Speaker 7: into the market, we need to know where our products

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01:16:38,015 --> 01:16:41,775
Speaker 7: are being used and we're being installed and most importantly,

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01:16:41,815 --> 01:16:44,855
Speaker 7: but there's no guesswork. When we come to have a

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01:16:44,855 --> 01:16:47,175
Speaker 7: look at the project in fifteen or twenty or twenty

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01:16:47,175 --> 01:16:50,575
Speaker 7: five years, we've got this historical information. Very much like

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Speaker 7: the information files held by Council. We can actually look

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01:16:54,055 --> 01:16:57,255
Speaker 7: it back up and we know yet what we actually

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01:16:57,255 --> 01:17:00,135
Speaker 7: did back then as well, because things do subtly change

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01:17:01,455 --> 01:17:06,655
Speaker 7: over time, just sue modern technology. It could be flashing

1333
01:17:06,695 --> 01:17:10,415
Speaker 7: suites for example, we're just you know, adding new componentry

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01:17:10,415 --> 01:17:13,175
Speaker 7: into the flashing suites to make them more adaptable to

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01:17:13,815 --> 01:17:18,135
Speaker 7: modern construction methods, you know, but the essence of the

1336
01:17:18,175 --> 01:17:22,935
Speaker 7: system doesn't change. You know, the cavity that has the

1337
01:17:22,975 --> 01:17:27,455
Speaker 7: requirement for the flashings. Yeah, coding system specification, those sorts

1338
01:17:27,455 --> 01:17:30,095
Speaker 7: of things can change just subtly, but not to any

1339
01:17:30,415 --> 01:17:32,735
Speaker 7: massive impact. But we do have the ability to look

1340
01:17:32,775 --> 01:17:35,215
Speaker 7: back in time and go, this is who did it,

1341
01:17:35,855 --> 01:17:38,615
Speaker 7: which is always an important important part. Who the original

1342
01:17:38,615 --> 01:17:42,375
Speaker 7: owners were, what the maintenance was achieved on the project? Yes,

1343
01:17:43,135 --> 01:17:46,255
Speaker 7: and then follow through so we actually can provide the

1344
01:17:46,335 --> 01:17:50,775
Speaker 7: new homeowners greater accuracy in terms of what information they

1345
01:17:50,815 --> 01:17:52,375
Speaker 7: need on that system and those products.

1346
01:17:53,295 --> 01:17:54,975
Speaker 4: And I tell you what in terms of, you know,

1347
01:17:55,055 --> 01:17:58,455
Speaker 4: the confidence in a system going forward, if you've got

1348
01:17:58,495 --> 01:18:01,375
Speaker 4: all of that information there is, you can have so

1349
01:18:01,495 --> 01:18:05,335
Speaker 4: much more confidence in the system. And you know, I

1350
01:18:05,335 --> 01:18:09,735
Speaker 4: suppose when I've become involved in maybe some disputes or

1351
01:18:10,255 --> 01:18:13,295
Speaker 4: some questions around workmanship and so on, and then you

1352
01:18:13,415 --> 01:18:15,495
Speaker 4: go and you go, who was the contract I'm not

1353
01:18:15,535 --> 01:18:17,935
Speaker 4: really sure what systems did they use? Don't really know.

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01:18:18,095 --> 01:18:19,935
Speaker 4: Do you have any photographs of the work while it

1355
01:18:20,015 --> 01:18:22,655
Speaker 4: was happening, No, we don't, or no one can find it.

1356
01:18:23,735 --> 01:18:27,055
Speaker 4: And again, within that complete suite of systems that you've got,

1357
01:18:27,095 --> 01:18:29,415
Speaker 4: you can go, we know everything that happened, and we

1358
01:18:29,415 --> 01:18:31,975
Speaker 4: can find it five years, ten years, fifteen years later.

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01:18:32,975 --> 01:18:35,495
Speaker 7: Yeah, and we do get those same phone calls from

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01:18:35,535 --> 01:18:39,375
Speaker 7: clients that know what and even if they because I've

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01:18:39,375 --> 01:18:41,375
Speaker 7: been in the industry so long now, I mean we're

1362
01:18:41,415 --> 01:18:44,175
Speaker 7: heading our fortieth anniversary year this year, so we've been

1363
01:18:44,215 --> 01:18:46,615
Speaker 7: around a while and we've seen a lot of systems

1364
01:18:46,655 --> 01:18:49,775
Speaker 7: come and go, and the knowledge that we have across

1365
01:18:49,775 --> 01:18:52,295
Speaker 7: the business in terms of personnel and also in terms

1366
01:18:52,335 --> 01:18:56,455
Speaker 7: of technical information we have internally in the business. We

1367
01:18:56,495 --> 01:18:58,535
Speaker 7: can go to a project, we can actually identify what

1368
01:18:59,015 --> 01:19:03,255
Speaker 7: almost ninety percent of the time identify what was actually

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01:19:03,655 --> 01:19:07,215
Speaker 7: done and by what company, and have some historical sort

1370
01:19:07,215 --> 01:19:09,615
Speaker 7: of evidence to prove that, so that we sort of

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01:19:09,615 --> 01:19:11,495
Speaker 7: have a baseline, you know. Most of the stuff that

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01:19:11,495 --> 01:19:14,455
Speaker 7: we probably have a nos yet would be generally relating

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01:19:14,455 --> 01:19:17,935
Speaker 7: to projects completed pre cavity, so pre t thousand and

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01:19:17,975 --> 01:19:20,655
Speaker 7: five to three two thousand and three, two thousand and five,

1375
01:19:21,415 --> 01:19:23,695
Speaker 7: where people are just not sure, you know, and just

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01:19:23,735 --> 01:19:25,575
Speaker 7: want a little bit of surety around what they need

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01:19:25,615 --> 01:19:28,495
Speaker 7: to do. So we generally we've talked to a lot

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01:19:28,575 --> 01:19:30,695
Speaker 7: a lot of clients around that space as well. But

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01:19:30,815 --> 01:19:36,215
Speaker 7: that tail is that tale of that pre cavity projects

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01:19:35,855 --> 01:19:38,055
Speaker 7: is we're nearly at the end of it, so to speak,

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01:19:38,815 --> 01:19:44,895
Speaker 7: most with some from twenty twenty one years past non

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01:19:44,935 --> 01:19:48,415
Speaker 7: cavity based clotting systems in this country, you know, so

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01:19:48,895 --> 01:19:51,135
Speaker 7: we're a long long way down the road in terms

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01:19:51,175 --> 01:19:55,855
Speaker 7: of performance and compliance. And I think surety for the

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01:19:56,655 --> 01:19:59,775
Speaker 7: for the homeowners when they are selecting and external clouding

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01:19:59,935 --> 01:20:02,575
Speaker 7: be a plastered a bit weatherboard and be a cement sheet.

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Speaker 7: There's a lot more surety there, I tell you what.

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Speaker 4: That's going to become more and more important given the

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Speaker 4: announcements from the government last year in terms of compulsory

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Speaker 4: warranties on new builds and renovations over one hundred thousand,

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Speaker 4: Because if you're going to go to someone to look

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01:20:18,975 --> 01:20:20,895
Speaker 4: for a warranty, you're going to have to prove what

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01:20:20,935 --> 01:20:24,855
Speaker 4: you did and how well you've done it. And you're

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01:20:24,855 --> 01:20:26,735
Speaker 4: already twenty years into that process.

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01:20:27,335 --> 01:20:30,455
Speaker 7: Yeah. Absolutely, and it is really it is really important

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01:20:30,495 --> 01:20:31,895
Speaker 7: that I mean, I mean, there's got to be so

1397
01:20:31,975 --> 01:20:36,255
Speaker 7: much trust there from for a consumer and building a home.

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01:20:36,735 --> 01:20:39,455
Speaker 7: They need to trust every trade that's on that side

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01:20:39,455 --> 01:20:41,975
Speaker 7: that they're doing it right. And I don't want us

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01:20:41,975 --> 01:20:48,615
Speaker 7: to go down to the old lowest price section to

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01:20:48,655 --> 01:20:51,815
Speaker 7: sort of make sure that people, you know, they get

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01:20:51,815 --> 01:20:53,895
Speaker 7: what they pay for, because yeah, sure, you know, the

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01:20:54,695 --> 01:20:57,615
Speaker 7: fairest taste is a low price after failure.

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Speaker 6: And.

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Speaker 7: And it tars every one in the industry, those one

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01:21:04,255 --> 01:21:08,455
Speaker 7: percent decisions. So for the critical aspects of construction there

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01:21:08,535 --> 01:21:15,975
Speaker 7: plotting anything to protect the structure, particularly waterproofing, those sorts

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01:21:15,975 --> 01:21:21,175
Speaker 7: of things don't compromise in terms of the systems and

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01:21:21,215 --> 01:21:24,015
Speaker 7: solutions that are specified. And then you need to trush

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01:21:24,375 --> 01:21:25,975
Speaker 7: all the way back to the architects who've made the

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01:21:26,015 --> 01:21:28,135
Speaker 7: decision on the specifications, you know.

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Speaker 4: And in this instance, the contract also needs to prove

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01:21:31,855 --> 01:21:34,255
Speaker 4: that trust and so it's evidence based, right, this is

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01:21:34,335 --> 01:21:35,895
Speaker 4: what I did. This is how I did it. Here

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01:21:35,895 --> 01:21:38,535
Speaker 4: are the systems, and he's photographs to back it up.

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01:21:38,615 --> 01:21:41,575
Speaker 4: And this is going to be the way we're all

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01:21:41,615 --> 01:21:43,975
Speaker 4: going to have to operate going forward. If we're going

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01:21:44,015 --> 01:21:46,255
Speaker 4: to have warranties. It's going to be fascinating. Mike, I've

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01:21:46,255 --> 01:21:49,215
Speaker 4: got to run for the news again. I completely ambushed

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01:21:49,255 --> 01:21:50,855
Speaker 4: you on that. We're going to talk about something else,

1421
01:21:50,895 --> 01:21:54,255
Speaker 4: but perfect timing, folks, If you want to know, it's

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01:21:54,255 --> 01:21:56,175
Speaker 4: always the way you take care of Mike. If you

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01:21:56,215 --> 01:21:59,095
Speaker 4: want to know more about anti YouTube Mike cap in

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01:21:59,135 --> 01:22:01,215
Speaker 4: New Year. Indeed, if you want to know more, check

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01:22:01,215 --> 01:22:04,655
Speaker 4: it out online. Razineconstruction dot co dot NZ. We're back

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Speaker 4: straight after news and sport, top of there at eight.

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Speaker 1: O'clock sorting those summer fixes before the barbecue crowd arrives.

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Speaker 1: The resident builder with Peter wolfcab. Call Oh, eight hundred

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01:22:18,455 --> 01:22:20,455
Speaker 1: eighty ten eighty News Talk ZB.

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Speaker 4: Your news Talk ZB It is six minutes after eight.

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Speaker 4: Welcome back to the show. Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty.

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Speaker 4: The number to call if you would like to text,

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01:22:28,455 --> 01:22:30,615
Speaker 4: and lots of you have taken that opportunity, it is

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01:22:30,735 --> 01:22:34,255
Speaker 4: nine two nine two is zbzbef membobile phone and if

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01:22:34,255 --> 01:22:38,495
Speaker 4: you'd like to email me, it's Pete at newstalksb dot

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01:22:38,495 --> 01:22:41,935
Speaker 4: co dot In said, righty oh, So we're taking your

1437
01:22:41,975 --> 01:22:45,255
Speaker 4: calls on all things building and construction right through till

1438
01:22:45,335 --> 01:22:48,535
Speaker 4: eight thirty. Then we're into the garden with Red Clin

1439
01:22:48,615 --> 01:22:51,975
Speaker 4: passed from eight thirty this morning and again just wrapping

1440
01:22:52,055 --> 01:22:56,775
Speaker 4: up the conversation with Mike prior to the news. So,

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01:22:56,975 --> 01:23:00,255
Speaker 4: Mike from Razen Construction been in the game for a

1442
01:23:00,335 --> 01:23:03,015
Speaker 4: long long time and so we were talking about I

1443
01:23:03,015 --> 01:23:05,255
Speaker 4: guess the triple s which we used to use as

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01:23:05,295 --> 01:23:09,775
Speaker 4: a substrate, and quite interesting to get his insights and

1445
01:23:09,815 --> 01:23:13,575
Speaker 4: then also to hear this is going to become, i

1446
01:23:13,615 --> 01:23:17,975
Speaker 4: think quite a big issue this year for builders, people

1447
01:23:18,255 --> 01:23:20,735
Speaker 4: like myself and others. You know, if we're going to

1448
01:23:20,775 --> 01:23:23,615
Speaker 4: do new builds, then it's going we're going to have

1449
01:23:23,735 --> 01:23:26,135
Speaker 4: to be able to provide a warranty. This is the

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01:23:26,335 --> 01:23:30,735
Speaker 4: proposed new legislation, so every single new build will require

1451
01:23:30,895 --> 01:23:35,895
Speaker 4: a warranty. Compulsory warranty schemes for new builds and builds

1452
01:23:35,935 --> 01:23:39,895
Speaker 4: over one hundred thousand or renovations over one hundred thousand dollars,

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01:23:39,895 --> 01:23:42,695
Speaker 4: which is still a lot of money. But if you've

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01:23:42,735 --> 01:23:46,015
Speaker 4: done a renovation and it's been you know, pushing the

1455
01:23:46,055 --> 01:23:50,215
Speaker 4: house out or making some significant alterations that sort of thing,

1456
01:23:50,215 --> 01:23:52,055
Speaker 4: you're going to get to one hundred thousand dollars pretty

1457
01:23:52,135 --> 01:23:59,255
Speaker 4: quickly these days. But it's the ability of let's say,

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01:23:59,495 --> 01:24:03,535
Speaker 4: smaller independent contractors to be able to offer up that

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01:24:03,655 --> 01:24:07,935
Speaker 4: warranty that's going to be really interesting and within sort

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01:24:07,935 --> 01:24:11,975
Speaker 4: of let's say, you know, building groups, people are starting

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01:24:11,975 --> 01:24:13,935
Speaker 4: to talk about, you know, how am I going to

1462
01:24:13,975 --> 01:24:17,255
Speaker 4: be able to comply with this? One pathway is to

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01:24:17,455 --> 01:24:21,695
Speaker 4: be part of associations I Certified Builders, master Builders, and

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01:24:21,695 --> 01:24:25,175
Speaker 4: so on. Another pathway is to go to the one

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01:24:25,295 --> 01:24:27,815
Speaker 4: ensurer that I'm aware of at the moment that might

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01:24:27,855 --> 01:24:32,215
Speaker 4: offer that, but they have quite strictriterior about who they

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01:24:32,255 --> 01:24:36,255
Speaker 4: engage with and what types of what types of contractors,

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01:24:36,295 --> 01:24:38,975
Speaker 4: and what types of builds they would be interested in

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01:24:39,295 --> 01:24:45,055
Speaker 4: offering an insurance backed scheme warranty for. And then for

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01:24:45,175 --> 01:24:49,815
Speaker 4: those who are let's say, operating license building practitioners but

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01:24:49,895 --> 01:24:54,935
Speaker 4: operating without being part of either of those memberships, there's

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Speaker 4: going to be a lot of scrutiny about how you

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01:24:57,055 --> 01:25:01,295
Speaker 4: run your business, sort of scrutiny that we've probably never

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01:25:01,375 --> 01:25:04,775
Speaker 4: experienced before. I think it's going to change the landscape

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01:25:04,815 --> 01:25:07,895
Speaker 4: quite a lot. So I pick my little bit of

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01:25:07,895 --> 01:25:10,295
Speaker 4: crystal ball gazing at this point in time in the

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01:25:10,335 --> 01:25:13,615
Speaker 4: year is we're going to see some significant changes to

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01:25:13,735 --> 01:25:17,015
Speaker 4: how people run their businesses in terms of construction and

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01:25:17,095 --> 01:25:20,335
Speaker 4: so on to be able to offer those warranties going forward.

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01:25:20,375 --> 01:25:23,535
Speaker 4: It's going to be very very interesting. And this is

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01:25:23,615 --> 01:25:31,095
Speaker 4: just another quick text that's come in because the part

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01:25:31,135 --> 01:25:34,255
Speaker 4: of this started with Bob's question around, Hey, look, I'm

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01:25:34,295 --> 01:25:36,695
Speaker 4: looking at a building, it's got solid plaster on it.

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01:25:36,775 --> 01:25:40,135
Speaker 4: The substraight for the solid plaster, the backing for it

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01:25:40,255 --> 01:25:42,895
Speaker 4: is a product called tripleles, which was a sort of

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01:25:42,895 --> 01:25:47,735
Speaker 4: modified wood fiber sheeting that used to apply fix on

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01:25:47,815 --> 01:25:50,975
Speaker 4: to the timber framing, then put the building paper over

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01:25:51,015 --> 01:25:56,495
Speaker 4: the top of it, and then we would then do

1489
01:25:58,055 --> 01:26:00,575
Speaker 4: the mesh and the solid plaster over the top of that.

1490
01:26:01,215 --> 01:26:05,095
Speaker 4: So those sorts of products, and the concern was is

1491
01:26:05,135 --> 01:26:08,895
Speaker 4: there aspsus? And someone had just text me through an

1492
01:26:08,895 --> 01:26:12,215
Speaker 4: interesting question, Pete. You being of the generation where asbestos

1493
01:26:12,295 --> 01:26:16,815
Speaker 4: was freely used, well not quite to be fair, but anyway,

1494
01:26:17,415 --> 01:26:19,935
Speaker 4: do you worry about your health getting into the later

1495
01:26:20,055 --> 01:26:23,335
Speaker 4: stage of life? Again? Thank you. I was a track

1496
01:26:23,415 --> 01:26:26,015
Speaker 4: mechanic started my working life got out after nine years

1497
01:26:26,055 --> 01:26:28,815
Speaker 4: because I could see the older mechanics getting serious health

1498
01:26:28,855 --> 01:26:31,575
Speaker 4: problems because of the environment, the chemicals and the fumes

1499
01:26:31,935 --> 01:26:34,255
Speaker 4: they've been exposed to for many years. So now I

1500
01:26:34,295 --> 01:26:37,335
Speaker 4: get baked by the sun out on the farm, which

1501
01:26:37,375 --> 01:26:40,575
Speaker 4: I guess brings with it its own Asard's look. I

1502
01:26:40,615 --> 01:26:44,455
Speaker 4: think it's a good serious question. I appreciate you asking it, Nick,

1503
01:26:45,855 --> 01:26:49,855
Speaker 4: and I guess, like for myself next year, it'll be

1504
01:26:49,895 --> 01:26:54,015
Speaker 4: forty years since I started building, And in that time,

1505
01:26:54,175 --> 01:26:56,935
Speaker 4: I guess there's been times, if you think back to

1506
01:26:57,015 --> 01:27:01,055
Speaker 4: attitudes towards health and safety almost forty years ago, not

1507
01:27:01,335 --> 01:27:06,535
Speaker 4: quite as aware or not quite as stringent as they

1508
01:27:06,535 --> 01:27:10,015
Speaker 4: are today. And there were jobs that I do years

1509
01:27:10,055 --> 01:27:13,895
Speaker 4: ago where massive amounts of dust and all sorts of material.

1510
01:27:13,935 --> 01:27:16,295
Speaker 4: And did I wear a mask, No, probably not. Did

1511
01:27:16,295 --> 01:27:19,335
Speaker 4: I always wear hearing protection? No, not always, although I

1512
01:27:19,335 --> 01:27:21,935
Speaker 4: think I've been pretty diligent with that in general. And

1513
01:27:21,975 --> 01:27:24,535
Speaker 4: so there is that concern. Well, okay, what happens to

1514
01:27:24,575 --> 01:27:27,055
Speaker 4: you later on? So to answer your question, and I

1515
01:27:27,095 --> 01:27:29,575
Speaker 4: say this in part for other people of sort of

1516
01:27:29,575 --> 01:27:32,695
Speaker 4: my vintage and other people in the trades, is I

1517
01:27:32,695 --> 01:27:35,415
Speaker 4: guess you do need to be aware of what impact

1518
01:27:35,735 --> 01:27:39,295
Speaker 4: that early activity and behavior had on you or might

1519
01:27:39,335 --> 01:27:41,695
Speaker 4: have on you going forward. And at one stage I

1520
01:27:41,735 --> 01:27:45,375
Speaker 4: did actually go and ask my GP to arrange an

1521
01:27:45,535 --> 01:27:47,695
Speaker 4: X ray, for example, on my lungs, because I thought,

1522
01:27:48,015 --> 01:27:50,055
Speaker 4: all those years of breathing and all sorts of dust

1523
01:27:50,095 --> 01:27:52,175
Speaker 4: and stuff like that, is there anything that I should

1524
01:27:52,215 --> 01:27:55,095
Speaker 4: be concerned about? So I thought responsible thing to do,

1525
01:27:55,215 --> 01:27:57,935
Speaker 4: go and get it checked out. Turns out it was Okay,

1526
01:27:59,055 --> 01:28:01,695
Speaker 4: I'm still sure that breathing and all that concrete dust

1527
01:28:01,695 --> 01:28:04,775
Speaker 4: from grinding years and years ago is probably not the

1528
01:28:04,775 --> 01:28:07,055
Speaker 4: best thing in the world, but at the stage doesn't

1529
01:28:07,095 --> 01:28:11,135
Speaker 4: seem to have had any long term implications. But yeah,

1530
01:28:11,575 --> 01:28:14,495
Speaker 4: it's that thing that and even work Safe a couple

1531
01:28:14,535 --> 01:28:17,215
Speaker 4: of years ago they kind of went through and did

1532
01:28:17,855 --> 01:28:22,055
Speaker 4: a review of if we have about sixty to seventy

1533
01:28:22,215 --> 01:28:25,895
Speaker 4: workplace deaths a year in New Zealand, which is still

1534
01:28:26,215 --> 01:28:29,335
Speaker 4: a high number and that needs to be taken very seriously.

1535
01:28:30,895 --> 01:28:34,015
Speaker 4: Analysis of people later on in their life is that

1536
01:28:34,055 --> 01:28:37,935
Speaker 4: we think that there's probably between five to seven hundred

1537
01:28:37,975 --> 01:28:42,735
Speaker 4: deaths or a shorter life as a result of workplace

1538
01:28:42,775 --> 01:28:46,135
Speaker 4: exposure to hazardous materials, whether that's dust or chemicals and

1539
01:28:46,135 --> 01:28:49,495
Speaker 4: so on. So it's like, yes, we can look at

1540
01:28:49,855 --> 01:28:53,775
Speaker 4: the immediate harm or the immediate injuries that happen as

1541
01:28:53,815 --> 01:28:56,855
Speaker 4: a result of falling or cutting or whatever, but we

1542
01:28:56,895 --> 01:29:00,215
Speaker 4: should also be concerned about those long term health impacts

1543
01:29:00,255 --> 01:29:03,135
Speaker 4: of being an environment where you're breathing in lots of

1544
01:29:03,215 --> 01:29:07,735
Speaker 4: dust or exposed to certain chemicals. You got to be careful,

1545
01:29:08,015 --> 01:29:11,695
Speaker 4: I guess thirteen minutes after eight here at News Talks

1546
01:29:11,695 --> 01:29:16,735
Speaker 4: he'd be let's talk building, Let's talk construction, let's talk maintenance, rules, regulations,

1547
01:29:16,775 --> 01:29:19,695
Speaker 4: whatever's on your mind this morning. We've talked about decking,

1548
01:29:19,735 --> 01:29:23,135
Speaker 4: We've talked about water, We've talked about cracking. We've talked

1549
01:29:23,135 --> 01:29:26,375
Speaker 4: about leaky showers, We've talked about moldy ceilings. We talked

1550
01:29:26,375 --> 01:29:29,055
Speaker 4: a little bit about asbestos on the show, so feel

1551
01:29:29,055 --> 01:29:33,015
Speaker 4: free to add to the mix. Eight hundred eighty ten

1552
01:29:33,215 --> 01:29:35,655
Speaker 4: eighty is the number to call. Take short break, be

1553
01:29:35,735 --> 01:29:37,255
Speaker 4: back with your calls in just a moment. We've got

1554
01:29:37,295 --> 01:29:40,015
Speaker 4: a spear line. Grab us now. Remember rood at eight

1555
01:29:40,095 --> 01:29:40,895
Speaker 4: thirty this morning.

1556
01:29:41,575 --> 01:29:44,215
Speaker 1: If it creaks, leaks, cracks or squeaks some is the

1557
01:29:44,255 --> 01:29:46,535
Speaker 1: time to get a sort of call. Oh, eight hundred

1558
01:29:46,535 --> 01:29:49,655
Speaker 1: and eighty ten eighty the resident builder with Peter Wolfcab

1559
01:29:49,895 --> 01:29:52,815
Speaker 1: News talks that be yes, if it.

1560
01:29:52,935 --> 01:29:57,135
Speaker 4: Leaks like my place did while we're away on holiday,

1561
01:29:59,255 --> 01:30:01,335
Speaker 4: it was a nice way to get home and go okay.

1562
01:30:01,495 --> 01:30:05,775
Speaker 4: First job, sort out why the internal valley has sprung

1563
01:30:05,775 --> 01:30:09,575
Speaker 4: a leak, which it had and last year on the

1564
01:30:09,575 --> 01:30:13,735
Speaker 4: show we talked with a guy Murray who has injuris

1565
01:30:13,735 --> 01:30:18,415
Speaker 4: as a waterproofing compound. It's a one coat application anyway,

1566
01:30:18,495 --> 01:30:20,935
Speaker 4: I had, I'd used some last year. I still had

1567
01:30:20,975 --> 01:30:22,815
Speaker 4: the bucket and the shed, so it meant that when

1568
01:30:22,855 --> 01:30:26,295
Speaker 4: I got home from the trip, after sort of slightly

1569
01:30:26,335 --> 01:30:28,815
Speaker 4: recovering and unpacking, it was straight up onto the roof,

1570
01:30:29,935 --> 01:30:32,095
Speaker 4: clean out that little patch of rust and the gutter

1571
01:30:32,575 --> 01:30:36,375
Speaker 4: and apply the enjurers and fingers crossed at this stage anyway,

1572
01:30:36,495 --> 01:30:39,935
Speaker 4: job done. That was awesome. Eighteen minutes after eight. If

1573
01:30:40,055 --> 01:30:41,855
Speaker 4: you've got a question of a building nature, give us

1574
01:30:41,855 --> 01:30:43,535
Speaker 4: a call now, David. Good morning to.

1575
01:30:43,495 --> 01:30:50,975
Speaker 5: You sir, and to you right very quickly. I'm in

1576
01:30:51,055 --> 01:30:55,055
Speaker 5: Auckland and my wife and i have a Crossley's property,

1577
01:30:55,095 --> 01:30:58,375
Speaker 5: one of two. It's built mid seventies brick and tile

1578
01:30:59,015 --> 01:31:03,495
Speaker 5: block base and it's kind of stepped now. Awpen. Council

1579
01:31:03,575 --> 01:31:08,575
Speaker 5: of Hairs insisted on any windows which are in within

1580
01:31:08,695 --> 01:31:11,695
Speaker 5: one meter of the boundary have to be fire rated.

1581
01:31:11,895 --> 01:31:14,295
Speaker 9: What yep?

1582
01:31:15,135 --> 01:31:17,095
Speaker 4: How did they get to tell you that? Have you

1583
01:31:17,135 --> 01:31:20,335
Speaker 4: applied for a building consent? Yes, yes we have.

1584
01:31:20,655 --> 01:31:23,615
Speaker 5: Yes, it's over one hundred k. It's quite quite a

1585
01:31:23,655 --> 01:31:24,495
Speaker 5: significant one.

1586
01:31:24,615 --> 01:31:24,775
Speaker 6: Yep.

1587
01:31:24,815 --> 01:31:28,015
Speaker 5: We're not altering the footprint of the cost lease, yes,

1588
01:31:28,575 --> 01:31:34,255
Speaker 5: which is the first thing. And there's thirty rated windows,

1589
01:31:34,335 --> 01:31:38,015
Speaker 5: which I'm told they are. That means that it's fire

1590
01:31:38,895 --> 01:31:40,695
Speaker 5: resistant for thirty minutes.

1591
01:31:40,535 --> 01:31:41,615
Speaker 4: Yes, correct, yep.

1592
01:31:42,375 --> 01:31:45,575
Speaker 5: And so there's four four windows, two of which are

1593
01:31:45,655 --> 01:31:51,255
Speaker 5: fixed their garage windows, and two which are opening. And boy,

1594
01:31:51,335 --> 01:31:55,255
Speaker 5: oh boy, are we having problems trying to find a

1595
01:31:55,375 --> 01:31:59,255
Speaker 5: joinery outfit that will supply these fire rated windows in

1596
01:31:59,335 --> 01:32:04,575
Speaker 5: which are opening. Discussions I've had with some people have said, well,

1597
01:32:04,615 --> 01:32:07,015
Speaker 5: it's why would you want to find rated in the

1598
01:32:07,055 --> 01:32:09,335
Speaker 5: window opening at the same time, which is probably a

1599
01:32:09,335 --> 01:32:11,615
Speaker 5: fair question, yes.

1600
01:32:11,375 --> 01:32:18,895
Speaker 4: Because yeah, yeah, just for people listening, let's just back

1601
01:32:18,975 --> 01:32:21,655
Speaker 4: it up just a little bit. So in this instance here,

1602
01:32:21,695 --> 01:32:24,255
Speaker 4: the building has been there since the nineteen seventies, it's

1603
01:32:24,255 --> 01:32:27,615
Speaker 4: obviously got some windows that are closer than a meter,

1604
01:32:27,855 --> 01:32:32,135
Speaker 4: or the building is closer than a meter to the boundary. Typically,

1605
01:32:32,295 --> 01:32:34,535
Speaker 4: anything that's closer than a meter to the boundary has

1606
01:32:34,575 --> 01:32:38,855
Speaker 4: to be fire rated. So they're not fire rated windows

1607
01:32:38,895 --> 01:32:42,535
Speaker 4: their typical timber joinery I'm guessing right now. But because

1608
01:32:42,655 --> 01:32:46,015
Speaker 4: you're undertaking this renovation, the building needs to comply with

1609
01:32:46,055 --> 01:32:49,015
Speaker 4: the current building code, which requires you to have fire

1610
01:32:49,095 --> 01:32:52,055
Speaker 4: rated within one meter of the boundary. That's what's triggered

1611
01:32:52,095 --> 01:32:56,495
Speaker 4: the requirement for this new joinery. And then yeah, I'm

1612
01:32:56,735 --> 01:32:59,455
Speaker 4: slightly amused. I have done one like that. It was

1613
01:32:59,535 --> 01:33:01,135
Speaker 4: quite a number of years ago, but it was just

1614
01:33:01,255 --> 01:33:03,855
Speaker 4: one window. So I can imagine the cost of how

1615
01:33:03,895 --> 01:33:09,375
Speaker 4: many four f four right, two of which are closed

1616
01:33:09,495 --> 01:33:12,935
Speaker 4: fixed and then two with an opening sash. And you

1617
01:33:13,015 --> 01:33:16,055
Speaker 4: do wonder about the logic of having a fire rated

1618
01:33:16,455 --> 01:33:17,815
Speaker 4: surface that you can.

1619
01:33:17,655 --> 01:33:24,855
Speaker 5: Open absolutely absolutely and trying to find somewhere that can

1620
01:33:25,415 --> 01:33:30,895
Speaker 5: is willing to supply, and the costs. You know, so

1621
01:33:31,055 --> 01:33:33,775
Speaker 5: what the framing apparently has to be steel. It can't

1622
01:33:33,815 --> 01:33:38,535
Speaker 5: be an aluminium. The current ordinary is aluminium. I'm waiting

1623
01:33:38,575 --> 01:33:41,375
Speaker 5: to hear from council. I've gone, I've gone back to

1624
01:33:41,415 --> 01:33:47,335
Speaker 5: them and I've basically said, look the two upper windows,

1625
01:33:47,375 --> 01:33:55,495
Speaker 5: the opening single jewelry there, and I said the two

1626
01:33:55,535 --> 01:34:00,175
Speaker 5: lower ones which are bound ones and number smaller, and

1627
01:34:00,255 --> 01:34:03,615
Speaker 5: I've asked, I've asked them if they would consider doing

1628
01:34:03,655 --> 01:34:06,215
Speaker 5: this normal double blazed. You know, I'm happy to do

1629
01:34:06,335 --> 01:34:10,055
Speaker 5: the fire rated jib on that wall, yep, which I

1630
01:34:10,055 --> 01:34:14,215
Speaker 5: think is in the plans, but it just seems overkilled.

1631
01:34:14,895 --> 01:34:18,255
Speaker 5: And I've said it's been without problem fifty years and

1632
01:34:18,295 --> 01:34:21,175
Speaker 5: now all of a sudden. That's a problem enough, we

1633
01:34:21,255 --> 01:34:26,015
Speaker 5: haven't had a fire such would yeah, just any advice

1634
01:34:26,135 --> 01:34:28,815
Speaker 5: on dealing with counsel and trying to get the sense

1635
01:34:28,855 --> 01:34:29,375
Speaker 5: of logic.

1636
01:34:31,775 --> 01:34:35,055
Speaker 4: I mean, if you wanted through your designer to appeal it,

1637
01:34:35,175 --> 01:34:39,335
Speaker 4: you could go for a ruling from Mby, but it

1638
01:34:39,415 --> 01:34:43,255
Speaker 4: might take eight to twelve months, right and right. The

1639
01:34:43,295 --> 01:34:46,775
Speaker 4: hard thing is that there is very good reason for

1640
01:34:46,895 --> 01:34:50,655
Speaker 4: fire rating within a meter of the boundary, because what

1641
01:34:50,895 --> 01:34:54,375
Speaker 4: it's all about is prevention of safety of life and

1642
01:34:54,415 --> 01:35:00,815
Speaker 4: prevention of fire right and fire spread. So unfortunately your building,

1643
01:35:00,855 --> 01:35:03,335
Speaker 4: which to be fair, is a little bit unusual because

1644
01:35:03,335 --> 01:35:06,815
Speaker 4: it's like, how is it that your building's that close

1645
01:35:06,855 --> 01:35:08,215
Speaker 4: to the boundary.

1646
01:35:09,135 --> 01:35:13,695
Speaker 5: Well, and there is one part where we're actually physically joined.

1647
01:35:14,535 --> 01:35:18,775
Speaker 4: Yes, I'll tell you what. Would there be an option

1648
01:35:19,255 --> 01:35:23,575
Speaker 4: of doing a fire rated wall that extended out from

1649
01:35:23,615 --> 01:35:28,295
Speaker 4: your building a meter, which meant that if there was

1650
01:35:28,495 --> 01:35:31,615
Speaker 4: fire spread from either your side or the neighbor's side,

1651
01:35:32,255 --> 01:35:36,575
Speaker 4: that wall would intersect it. And therefore, so what I'm

1652
01:35:36,615 --> 01:35:41,495
Speaker 4: thinking is that the wall the boundary issue is parallel

1653
01:35:41,535 --> 01:35:45,495
Speaker 4: to your building. It must be parallel to it, as

1654
01:35:45,495 --> 01:35:47,775
Speaker 4: opposed to perpendicular ninety degrees.

1655
01:35:49,255 --> 01:35:53,055
Speaker 5: It's physically adjoined, and so we couldn't put a.

1656
01:35:52,975 --> 01:35:54,255
Speaker 4: Wall wall in between.

1657
01:35:54,295 --> 01:35:56,855
Speaker 5: It wouldn't see with their roofline.

1658
01:35:56,975 --> 01:36:04,695
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, okay, all right. Steel joiner is not your

1659
01:36:04,735 --> 01:36:07,175
Speaker 4: only option. That's the other thing. And this again will

1660
01:36:07,175 --> 01:36:09,495
Speaker 4: come back to your designer being able to source or

1661
01:36:09,535 --> 01:36:14,895
Speaker 4: being able to specify the correct material. Typically, fire doors

1662
01:36:14,975 --> 01:36:19,975
Speaker 4: and fire windows are made from a modified wood product,

1663
01:36:22,535 --> 01:36:28,535
Speaker 4: so still doesn't make them eye wateringly expensive, but you

1664
01:36:28,535 --> 01:36:32,055
Speaker 4: don't necessarily have to go down the steel route. And

1665
01:36:32,175 --> 01:36:35,575
Speaker 4: I guess right, it would be interesting to get a

1666
01:36:35,615 --> 01:36:38,135
Speaker 4: response from counsel as to how is it that an

1667
01:36:38,175 --> 01:36:41,575
Speaker 4: opening fire rated window is acceptable? And I know there's

1668
01:36:41,655 --> 01:36:45,135
Speaker 4: fire rated doors, but if you look at the detail

1669
01:36:45,175 --> 01:36:48,895
Speaker 4: about how those doors operate, they have to be self closing, right,

1670
01:36:48,935 --> 01:36:51,495
Speaker 4: So yes, you can open it to go through, but

1671
01:36:51,575 --> 01:36:53,815
Speaker 4: it's not like you would have an opening window that's

1672
01:36:53,815 --> 01:36:56,655
Speaker 4: self closing because you're going to open it for ventilation.

1673
01:36:56,815 --> 01:36:59,175
Speaker 4: So you've got a requirement for ventilation in that space

1674
01:37:00,175 --> 01:37:04,055
Speaker 4: because it's got to be five percent of the floor area.

1675
01:37:05,455 --> 01:37:07,575
Speaker 4: So you've got an opening window to comply with one

1676
01:37:07,615 --> 01:37:09,415
Speaker 4: part of the building code, but then that has to

1677
01:37:09,455 --> 01:37:11,535
Speaker 4: be fire rated to comply with another part. Of the

1678
01:37:11,535 --> 01:37:14,135
Speaker 4: building code. But that's not going to work if the

1679
01:37:14,135 --> 01:37:14,655
Speaker 4: window is.

1680
01:37:14,615 --> 01:37:20,895
Speaker 5: Open, understand. And to complicate, man, it's this whole area

1681
01:37:21,055 --> 01:37:25,215
Speaker 5: is a kitchen area and dining area, kitchen dining and

1682
01:37:25,655 --> 01:37:30,895
Speaker 5: kind of the living room hell shaped. Yes, so we're

1683
01:37:30,975 --> 01:37:35,615
Speaker 5: three months behind that. My wife is not happy. We're

1684
01:37:35,615 --> 01:37:38,495
Speaker 5: living in our garage below while this is happening, and

1685
01:37:38,535 --> 01:37:42,095
Speaker 5: it's just been yea delay after delay, and you know,

1686
01:37:42,135 --> 01:37:45,335
Speaker 5: and I've said to counsel, I've said, you know, trying

1687
01:37:45,335 --> 01:37:48,215
Speaker 5: to find someone that will do these So I do

1688
01:37:48,295 --> 01:37:50,655
Speaker 5: have a quarian with council and if you're interested, I

1689
01:37:50,655 --> 01:37:51,855
Speaker 5: can get you know in due course.

1690
01:37:52,255 --> 01:37:58,815
Speaker 4: Please do please do was any of this flag before

1691
01:37:58,855 --> 01:38:00,135
Speaker 4: you actually started building?

1692
01:38:02,255 --> 01:38:05,175
Speaker 5: The architect did say the council is going to have

1693
01:38:05,215 --> 01:38:08,975
Speaker 5: an issue with this because you know you've physically joined.

1694
01:38:13,215 --> 01:38:13,415
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1695
01:38:13,455 --> 01:38:16,615
Speaker 5: So anyway, as I say, I've gone back to them saying, hey,

1696
01:38:17,015 --> 01:38:19,535
Speaker 5: what I've said, what are my options?

1697
01:38:19,695 --> 01:38:20,015
Speaker 4: Yes?

1698
01:38:20,495 --> 01:38:25,335
Speaker 5: So the hard thing is that they will come back

1699
01:38:25,335 --> 01:38:25,975
Speaker 5: with something.

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Speaker 4: And I don't say this uncount kindly of counsel, but

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01:38:29,775 --> 01:38:32,775
Speaker 4: it's kind of not their job to solve your problems.

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01:38:33,175 --> 01:38:36,135
Speaker 4: Is probably you know, they'll try and sound helpful, but

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01:38:36,215 --> 01:38:40,975
Speaker 4: ultimately Their attitude is, you know, we're here to administer

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01:38:41,015 --> 01:38:43,615
Speaker 4: the building code. We're not here to tell you how

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01:38:43,655 --> 01:38:46,375
Speaker 4: to comply with the building code. That's up to you

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01:38:46,455 --> 01:38:49,455
Speaker 4: and your designer to work out. So it kind of

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01:38:49,495 --> 01:38:54,375
Speaker 4: becomes the designer's issue that as part of their experience,

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01:38:54,375 --> 01:38:59,015
Speaker 4: it would be, Hey, you know, can I tell you now,

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01:38:59,095 --> 01:39:01,175
Speaker 4: David that because you're within a meter, these are the

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01:39:01,255 --> 01:39:02,615
Speaker 4: sorts of things that you're going to have to do.

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01:39:03,415 --> 01:39:06,175
Speaker 4: This is what the expectation from counsel is going to be.

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01:39:06,735 --> 01:39:08,615
Speaker 4: Counsel are just going to go, well, you knew what

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01:39:08,615 --> 01:39:10,415
Speaker 4: the rules are, you have to tell us how you're

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01:39:10,415 --> 01:39:11,975
Speaker 4: going to comply. We're not going to tell you how

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01:39:12,055 --> 01:39:13,615
Speaker 4: to comply because they don't want to put their name

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01:39:13,655 --> 01:39:20,975
Speaker 4: to anything either. Yeah, it just helped change your thinking

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01:39:20,975 --> 01:39:24,055
Speaker 4: around that. But my own experience was a number of

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01:39:24,135 --> 01:39:25,975
Speaker 4: years ago we were doing a garage that was right

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01:39:26,055 --> 01:39:28,615
Speaker 4: on the boundary. They wanted a window on one side

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01:39:28,655 --> 01:39:33,655
Speaker 4: and it ended up being thermally modified timber type material

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01:39:34,855 --> 01:39:37,775
Speaker 4: so it looked compatible to the rest of the building,

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01:39:38,055 --> 01:39:42,415
Speaker 4: but it was fire rated, right, Yeah, because.

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01:39:42,175 --> 01:39:44,615
Speaker 5: I suppose timber would last longer.

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01:39:44,695 --> 01:39:46,655
Speaker 4: It'll get to the thirty minutes. Yeah, with the right

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01:39:46,695 --> 01:39:50,495
Speaker 4: treatment and impregnated with a fire resistant material and all

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01:39:50,535 --> 01:39:54,695
Speaker 4: the rest of it. It'll get you to that thirty minutes. Yeah,

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01:39:55,855 --> 01:39:58,215
Speaker 4: good luck for it, all right, mate, hope, thank you

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01:39:58,535 --> 01:40:00,335
Speaker 4: at least at summertime and you're not in the garage

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01:40:00,335 --> 01:40:00,695
Speaker 4: in winter.

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01:40:04,215 --> 01:40:07,415
Speaker 5: Get before winter, all right, good luck that all the.

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01:40:07,415 --> 01:40:10,655
Speaker 4: Very best you take care just before we jump into

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01:40:10,695 --> 01:40:13,735
Speaker 4: the garden. Another quick text that came through whatever. I'm

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01:40:13,775 --> 01:40:16,175
Speaker 4: in a new five story complex and have noticed the

1734
01:40:16,215 --> 01:40:19,295
Speaker 4: concrete floors are cracked on every floor. Is this a

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01:40:19,375 --> 01:40:23,255
Speaker 4: serious structural damage? I've informed management it's a major concern.

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01:40:23,335 --> 01:40:26,175
Speaker 4: Do you think we would be moved on? Thank you

1737
01:40:26,255 --> 01:40:30,335
Speaker 4: very much. Look, I wouldn't dismiss that either. And I'm

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01:40:30,455 --> 01:40:32,935
Speaker 4: curious as to how you might know that the floors

1739
01:40:32,935 --> 01:40:36,455
Speaker 4: are cracking, like, have they moved to the extent that

1740
01:40:37,415 --> 01:40:39,255
Speaker 4: Let's say, if you've got a floor covering, you can

1741
01:40:39,335 --> 01:40:44,295
Speaker 4: feel the unevenness below the floor coverings, in which case,

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01:40:44,335 --> 01:40:46,695
Speaker 4: if it's moved that much, then yes, that is a

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01:40:46,695 --> 01:40:50,335
Speaker 4: big concern. I mean concrete cracks, right, all concrete wall crack.

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01:40:51,135 --> 01:40:53,575
Speaker 4: But it's if it's dislocating or if you can feel

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01:40:53,575 --> 01:40:56,095
Speaker 4: it through floor coverings, then yes, it's an issue, so

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01:40:56,735 --> 01:41:00,175
Speaker 4: your management, your body, corporate, they'd want to be going

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01:41:00,175 --> 01:41:04,415
Speaker 4: back to the structural engineers fairly promptly, I would think, righty, oh,

1748
01:41:04,575 --> 01:41:07,415
Speaker 4: if you've got a gardening question or a question about

1749
01:41:07,455 --> 01:41:10,415
Speaker 4: the wonderful world of bugs, well ridd is standing by.

1750
01:41:10,575 --> 01:41:14,295
Speaker 4: We'll crack into this in just a moment. Lines are open, cleared,

1751
01:41:14,295 --> 01:41:16,935
Speaker 4: all of the lines, first and first, what is it?

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01:41:16,975 --> 01:41:19,495
Speaker 4: First up, best dressed, that sort of thing, And you've

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01:41:19,495 --> 01:41:21,255
Speaker 4: got to get in before me, because I've already got

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01:41:21,255 --> 01:41:23,095
Speaker 4: a question on behalf of our good friends that we

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01:41:23,135 --> 01:41:25,735
Speaker 4: had dinner with last night. Phones are ringing. Rd's on

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Speaker 4: the line. Eight hundred eighty ten eighty back after the break.

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Speaker 1: Suns Out, Tools Out, Your summer DIY starts here The

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Speaker 1: Resident Builder with Peter Wolfcamp. Call eight hundred eighty ten

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Speaker 1: eighty News Talk ZEDB for more from The Resident Builder

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01:41:43,055 --> 01:41:46,015
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